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Beyond the Closet Episode 23: Slow Burns and Villas

Nick and Sara

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Join Nick and Sara on Beyond the Closet! In this weeks episode Nick and Sara talk about how they're doing. Nick tells his thoughts on Heartstopper Vol.6, the final book! They also talk about their journeys with "Poolside" and "How to Juggle Ballads and Blades." Slow Burns were a big part of this episode, Sara isn't a big fan, Nick loves them. Nick talks about some LGBTQ movies he has watched recently. And of course some hetero chatter on Love Island Season 8! 

SPEAKER_01

Hello and no Hello and welcome.

SPEAKER_00

I'm Nick.

SPEAKER_01

And I'm Sarah. And this is Beyond the Closet.

How Are We Doing?

SPEAKER_00

How are you? Yeah. Don't even need words to describe how you're feeling, do you? Tired? It's also really hot out today.

SPEAKER_01

It's hot in here.

SPEAKER_00

It is not as bad as it used to be, though. I know, but it's still pretty it's pr it's still pretty toasty.

SPEAKER_01

It's still warm enough that my forehead burns. Although I'm sorry. I know it's fine. Um Alex and I did a lot of yard work.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, you were texting me about that. Yep. How did that go?

SPEAKER_01

It was great. We were so productive.

SPEAKER_00

Was it fun?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_00

Because you had your own timeline. There's no deadline.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. And um we I dug out the mulch from one of the garden beds.

SPEAKER_00

I hate spreading mulch.

SPEAKER_01

We didn't spread it. We just we took it out.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

It was old mulch that was So it was like gray. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So we took it out. Um, threw it in the side yard.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um and granted, what is a side yard? Um.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's a side yard.

SPEAKER_01

We threw it in the little section between a farm field and us. In that little mystery property line. That's where we threw it. I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00

I haven't been in your house in a while, but I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Um I should come over soon. You should. We've done a lot of good things.

SPEAKER_00

We should.

SPEAKER_01

And you have you need to meet our cat. Yeah. Wait, aren't I coming over Sunday?

SPEAKER_00

Night for Heartstopper?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Yes. That's right.

SPEAKER_00

Good, good, good.

SPEAKER_01

Um Yeah. Forgot about that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's in my calendar. Yeah, mine too. Um.

SPEAKER_00

Well, in my brain, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And um, no, okay, so let me just like brag for a second about my fiance.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we love Alex.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So he's the best, y'all. He is. He's amazing. I fucking love him. Um he so we went to Home Depot and he was buying steaks and twine to mark out where he's gonna put my garden bed. And he didn't tell me exactly what this area was gonna be for. He just started staking it out, and I didn't I knew he was gonna do a garden bed of some like some sort, but I didn't know where he was gonna put it. He was also gonna do he's also gonna make a cat katio to go outside my sewing room window, which is gonna be so cute. And I thought he was staking out the whole area for a cat katio, which I was like, this is insanely large. And in my head, I'm just thinking, I'm like, this is gonna be really, really large. And then he's staking it out, and he's having me like measure and everything, and then at the end, once we're done, he just goes and points to it and is like, your garden. And I'm like, What? You're so sweet, and like, oh my god, that's like no. And then he went over it with the lawn mower and scalped it.

SPEAKER_00

Um, which he's so husband-coated already.

SPEAKER_01

He is. Oh my god, he's so husband coated. It's crazy, and um he's so fucking amazing. I love the law. And so, and if you don't know what scalping means for a lawn, it's mowing it until the grass is like as short as you can get it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And um, which actually I have a I have a funny joke, but after this is done being filmed, um uh inside joke.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. That's okay.

SPEAKER_01

So then um what else did he do? So he scalped it, he did uh weed and grass killer on it so that way uh the grass just dies and we can shovel it out and put down new soil and make it pretty and everything.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then we're going to eventually rip apart the deck and use the old lumber from that to make the garden bed walls.

SPEAKER_00

Smart! Which I'm so you are taking down the deck. Yes. Are you gonna make a patio?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Yes. That's my plan. I really want to like a nice patio.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you or sorry to interrupt you. You could, but you know what you could do, and they're not around in Wisconsin as much. But when we lived in Georgia, you know what we had? A screen porch.

SPEAKER_01

I want one. I want to do it.

SPEAKER_00

Screen porches are really nice. Especially when it's raining. And you can go out and read in the rain.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I really, really want a screen porch.

SPEAKER_00

I would love a screen porch when I get a house. I think my parents want one.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They like their patio, but I think they want a screen porch eventually.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I know we have those um cement. Oh god. I needed to sneeze.

SPEAKER_00

Gotta tell Good Stick Co. Hey! You got that on film! I'm sorry. Anyways, anyways, patio.

SPEAKER_01

Um, yeah, so just bragging about my future husband and how he is making me a garden.

SPEAKER_00

I love that for you.

SPEAKER_01

Um, like, if you have if like a little bit of like dating advice, yeah, you can try and go for like the hottest and like the most muscular and everything, but like honestly, you just need to find somebody who's willing to make you a garden. Whatever your garden is, yeah, like your metaphorical garden.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But if your man is willing to make you your garden, then he's the one.

SPEAKER_00

The one that, yeah, like whatever you honestly just what you're looking for in a relationship, too.

SPEAKER_01

Just, yeah, your metaphorical garden. If your garden is a wraparound porch.

SPEAKER_00

And he's been giving you stuff like that too.

SPEAKER_01

My god, he does so much for me.

SPEAKER_00

He's the best.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Should we have him on at one point?

SPEAKER_01

Uh, I don't think he cares enough. No, sorry, that sounds bad. It's not that he doesn't care enough. It's just the fact that Should I cut this part out? No, he's fine.

SPEAKER_00

Um I love you, Alex.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, he's you're I we love you. You're great and everything.

SPEAKER_00

Well, she loves you more than I do, but I also love you in a platonic way.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

As a friend.

SPEAKER_01

Um, it's just like he doesn't really have anything to say.

SPEAKER_00

True.

SPEAKER_01

He doesn't read or watch any of the stuff that we do.

SPEAKER_00

We'll have Claire on.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Claire will be a better Claire will be better.

SPEAKER_00

Claire will be a good guest.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Although, you know, a okay, you know what Alex would want to talk about? He would want to talk about um if anybody has ever seen if you've seen 911, then you should also go watch 911 Nashville.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah, you were telling me about that.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, because the main character, his name is Owen, his son is gay, and he has uh a gay relationship throughout the whole show.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

And that is a very big part of the show.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Is his relationship and it's very similar to uh Bobby and the Eddie? No, not Bobby and Eddie. Um that's Bobby and Athena. Do you know their relationship? Firefighter police.

SPEAKER_00

I've never seen 911 or 911 Nashville. I've never seen it. All I know is that Buck and Eddie is like a ship, but it's not a real thing. That is all I know, and I know Angela Bass that's on it. She's the girl from uh Black Panther.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, she's the mom in Black Panther. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

That's all I know about it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Claire said it's good though, so maybe I'll watch it someday.

SPEAKER_01

You should. Otherwise, you should just watch 911 Nashville. That one is actually gay.

SPEAKER_00

Is actually gay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so yeah, Alex would want to talk about that. Okay. Because the first time they kissed, Alex got really excited. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. I feel like he'd want to talk about like hockey. I know we kind of we finished that era for the time being.

SPEAKER_01

Hockey, hockey in the he wants to talk about hockey.

SPEAKER_00

NHL.

SPEAKER_01

NHL hockey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Although we do I do want to get into that this year though. I think it'd be fun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Start like actually paying attention to it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Get the Chicago Blackhawks out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's one.

SPEAKER_01

You can follow. It's great.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but yeah, so enough bragging about my future husband. Um, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

I'm good. I I'm not gonna lie, yesterday I didn't feel good.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, what happened?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if I told you this.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't feel good. I went to work and it was fine at first. And I just needed to do like inventory and a few other things to get done to like prep for the weekend. But while I was doing it, I started shaking a lot and I felt really sweaty. And it's usually really cold in there. Because it's you know, it's trampoline park, they keep it cool. Because when you're jumping around, you gotta keep it cool, you know? Because it was like that at my party.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But like, I just was like, why am I so hot? Why am I shaking a lot? And I was like, shit, something feels wrong, something feels off. So I was like, what's going on? So I told my boss, and he was like, Well, and they know I'm on medication, and he was like, Well, did you eat with your medication this morning? And I was like, No. So I listen, I already got the lecture from like two different people, okay? I don't need yours too.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Although I appreciate it. I did eat that day. Because remember, I was texting you, I was like, I needed to eat.

SPEAKER_01

That's why.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, I need to eat. Because I remember you texting me going, I'm hungry. And I was like, I need to eat because I don't feel good. And you were like, dude, go eat! Go eat something. And I so I went to Caribou Coffee, which is that coffee place right by my work.

unknown

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and I got a maple griddle sandwich. It had egg and sausage, it had protein, that's what I needed.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And I felt but I felt a little better after.

SPEAKER_03

That's okay.

SPEAKER_00

But I also feel like I've had a lot of anxiety lately. Just about like, I feel like I have a lot going on. Like I'm able to handle it, but I'm I felt a little overwhelmed.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I did go home early yesterday.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Just because I felt like I needed to clear my head and figure some stuff out. Um, but yeah, other than that, I'm good. Um, work's been fine. We had a fun little offside event in Whitefish Bay. It was good. It was very fun because we got to hand out like some prizes for kids because they would do like the spinning wheel and stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's cute.

SPEAKER_00

Which was really fun. And you did you did see Emily's tattoo. Yes, I did. She sent it to me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's so cute.

SPEAKER_00

So, yeah, but that was a lot of fun. Sunday wasn't too bad, Sunday was chill. Sunday, I actually went to uh Fiesta Italiana. It's so it's bas so it's at Summerfest grounds.

SPEAKER_01

Sounds like Fiesta Cancun.

SPEAKER_00

So it's pretty much it's Italian Fest. Downtown Milwaukee. Fiesta Italiana.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So kind of like how they do Irish Fest, German Fest.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Italian.

SPEAKER_01

Do you know when they're doing Irish Fest?

SPEAKER_00

It's usually in August.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Can we go?

SPEAKER_00

Have you met my parents?

unknown

That's true.

SPEAKER_00

We will be going.

SPEAKER_01

I've I've never been.

SPEAKER_00

We will probably be going by boat.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

We should plan that. Yes, we should. That would be really fun.

SPEAKER_01

Because I really want to go.

SPEAKER_00

And you've never been on our boat.

SPEAKER_01

No, I haven't.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

It's not that crazy. I work a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Anyway, yeah, we should do that. But I went to a time uh Piesta Italiana, which was a lot of fun. It was really hot. We didn't stay super long just because I uh I think we were kind of getting worn out from the heat. But it was fun. We saw a few um cool vendors that were there and just walked around. It was a lot of fun. Um but yeah, other than that, I'm good. I'm seeing Supergirl again this week, which I'm excited about. And then you and I are seeing the Aussie next week. Yes. I think that's gonna for us, that's gonna be a very full circle moment, I feel like.

SPEAKER_01

Do you do you work Monday?

SPEAKER_00

I work Monday and Tuesday. But I'm off on Tuesday at like four.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, what time do you start next Tuesday?

SPEAKER_00

10.

SPEAKER_01

So we can't film next Tuesday?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_01

What day are we filming?

SPEAKER_00

Um let's talk about that after we're done with this, because thank you for pointing that out. Yes. We do need to figure that out.

SPEAKER_01

Um, Nick, when are we filming?

SPEAKER_00

Um anyway, I've been pretty good.

SPEAKER_01

What? It's like as if they think that we filmed this Thursday morning and then edited. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Like, come on, guys, be realistic here.

SPEAKER_01

We we actually filmed two months in advance. Actually.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, we're time traveling right now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Although we will be time traveling soon.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

If you knew what he mean.

SPEAKER_01

Your wink was weird. It was it was awkward. Don't wink.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not gonna wink again.

SPEAKER_01

No, never again. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's it's okay. Now I know the truth.

SPEAKER_01

Good. Somebody needs to say it.

SPEAKER_00

I don't like it though.

SPEAKER_01

I don't like it though.

SPEAKER_00

Um but yeah, I will figure out what time to film. Um sorry about that. We had to we had to do some planning real quick. Really, just really quickly. Just really quick. Um but no, other than that, I've been good. Um, but I do want to bring something up. Um so you guys.

Nick Talks Heartstopper Vol.6

SPEAKER_01

Did you you finish reading it?

SPEAKER_00

I finished reading it.

SPEAKER_01

How long did it take you?

SPEAKER_00

A day. Not even like maybe like two hours.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

A day, two hours.

SPEAKER_00

Listen.

SPEAKER_01

Say whatever you want.

SPEAKER_00

You sure?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00

They fuck a lot. Like every like five pages, bro. It's kind of crazy. And I was like, oh my god, they keep fucking. I'm like, oh my god, we get it.

SPEAKER_01

Like, holy shit. Like, we get it. You two love each other. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Great. I'm happy for you. No, it was it was great. It was good. Um, I will say, going in, I wasn't really expecting it to be like an extravagant ending. You know?

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's a it's a young adult.

SPEAKER_01

It's not an extravagant show. No, it doesn't need to end on like a huge amount of drama or whatever. Like it it no, it's just cute stories.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's just it's this it's a very generic ending, which is how it should end.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think so. It's very it's very coded.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like they end up together in the end.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's it. Like that's how it ends. That's good. They don't talk about getting they're they're not married or anything by the end of the book.

SPEAKER_01

They're just No, because they're in college.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

They're not getting married during college.

SPEAKER_00

Although it does get messy.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

It does get messy. Do you remember in the trailer when Nick caught someone outside and he's like, Were you flirting with my boyfriend? That part's messy as fuck. Like, really messy. I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_01

Does Nick get physical?

SPEAKER_00

Nick gets sloshed as fuck. He gets so sloshed, it's crazy. So I am really excited to see Kit Connor being like really like drunk. Drunk, and it's gonna be so funny. Um, overall, though, with like my thoughts on it. I really liked it. It's a good ending. There are some things that I feel like are a little unknown and unaware. Um, this does contain spoilers, possibly for the movie. So if you're okay if I talk about that, otherwise I won't. So anyway, sorry, we had to get more comfortable. It's good. It's do you remember Tao and El?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I love them.

unknown

What?

SPEAKER_01

They break up.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. They break up.

SPEAKER_01

They stay broken up?

SPEAKER_00

That's the thing. It doesn't really clarify if they're good or not.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe they'll clarify in the show.

SPEAKER_00

In the movie, I hope they clarify because like in the book, it's very like, oh, well, because she's going to um Lambert College, which is far.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like, it's kind of like, you know, for a while in the first few books and the first few seasons, it's kind of like will they, won't they type of thing.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But they do, and now I'm like, I don't remember if they're really together by the end of this book. And I'm hoping that they change that in the movie.

SPEAKER_01

Or at least clarify it.

SPEAKER_00

At least have it clarified that if they decide to remain friends. I if they don't get back together in this book, I know that they are still friends.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Regardless.

SPEAKER_01

However, that did make me a little sad, but maybe they were just better off as friends.

SPEAKER_00

And sometimes that is the case. And I feel like the way Alice, if that's the case, then Alice did write that to the point where there is kind of some realism behind it. Because not all, like sometimes relationships like that don't last, and that's fine. So I think that might have been the reason why she had done it. Um lot of stuff with Nick's brother, too.

SPEAKER_01

Nick's brother was not a good person.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

What about uh Charlie's sister?

SPEAKER_00

Tori ends up with that one guy by seas from season three.

SPEAKER_01

And then how's their other friend? The asexual one.

SPEAKER_00

He doesn't exist in this. He's not real. He's made up. Are you talking about uh oh my god, don't tell me. I was literally watching this last night. Holy shit. Isaac. Isaac's not in the book. He's not he's not in the book. He's he's a made-up character. Did you not know this? Did you know Charlie has a baby brother in the book? Do you think maybe you should read the book? Maybe! He's not in the he's not in the book. He's not real. It's only uh Yeah, Isaac's not actually it's a different person, I think. There is another person, but I don't think that they're in the show. I think Isaac is in their place instead.

SPEAKER_01

Is like his baby brother supposed to be asexual? He's too young to figure it out.

SPEAKER_00

His brother's like five.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say, okay, baby brother usually means Charlie's baby brother is not in the show.

SPEAKER_00

He's in the books, he's not in the show. Isaac is in the show, but he's not in the books. It's a different friend in the books that is isn't in the show.

unknown

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Other than that, I've no judgment, like at all. But I'm just like dumbfounded.

SPEAKER_00

You just didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

Claire didn't know that either.

SPEAKER_01

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

I do think you should read them though. Yeah. They're very quick. They're very quick. Um but and now that the whole series is over, you can read them pretty easily. Yeah. Because you have can we talk about how you have them and you don't read them? I might as well buy them from you. Because I've read them. Respectfully.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I I guarantee you if you read the first one tonight, you'd be done.

SPEAKER_01

It's like a collection.

SPEAKER_00

No, I know. You should read them though. They're really good.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_00

I promise. I know. And you'd get them through them very quickly.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_00

And plus, who knows, it might get you into crap graphic novels. Not comic books, but graphic novels. There's a difference.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

There's a there's a difference, trust me.

SPEAKER_01

I know. There's also a difference between that and manga. Or like anime.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, it was really cute. I liked it. I definitely think it was a proper, satisfying ending. I do think fans will like it. I do think fans will like the movie as well. Because it's just been so popular for so long and it's always been successful, so I don't see why it wouldn't be successful now, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um but it was good. I think Heartstopper Forever will be really good too. There was a lot of stuff in there that I didn't really know was gonna happen, to be honest, and I'm not gonna say what it is, just because I want you to be surprised by it.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um but very good. I'm trying to get Claire caught up because I don't think Claire's seen season three. Because she was like, she was like, Jonathan Bailey's in it? And I was like, yeah. For like two seconds, but he's in it. Yeah. He's like an author or something. Yep, he is. And then the girl who played uh Captain America's girlfriend, isn't it too? He's she's uh Nick's aunt. Peggy Carter from Captain America the First Avenger. The British girl.

SPEAKER_01

Peggy Carter?

SPEAKER_00

Peggy Carter. Captain America's that actress is Nick's aunt in season three.

SPEAKER_01

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00

Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe Scarlett Johansson's in season in the movie then.

SPEAKER_00

Really don't think so?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, come on. Jonathan Bailey can do it, so she still can show you.

SPEAKER_00

Scarlett Johansson's not British.

SPEAKER_01

No, fair enough.

SPEAKER_00

That'd be cool, but she's not British.

SPEAKER_01

But what's funny about these- I forgot that that was a necessary point.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Um, Nick is a huge Marvel fan in the book. And in the in the show, too. Charlie hates Marvel. But now Joe Locke is literally Wiccan in Marvel, which I think is so funny and so ironic and hilarious. Um, but yeah, I would give it probably an 8 out of 10.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Solid 8 out of 10. I really liked it. I thought it was great. You were right though. A lot of digging up on Nick's past.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_00

I actually was am not ready to watch, let's just say I'm not ready to watch Kit Connors.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

It might be an emotional, an emotional movie. So. But it is it is really good, and there is a happy ending, which is great. Which I really, really liked. Um okay, so moving on. How's um how's

Sara has started "Poolside"

SPEAKER_00

poolside going for you? Good. Yeah? Yeah. Do you like it so far?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_00

It's very cute. I like the Charleston uh vibe because it makes me want to go to Charleston.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because like just the beach and just the pool and just knowing that you have like, I don't know, like I really love obviously I grew up in the South, so I automatically love the South.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

But I really like that vibe of just like where it's almost like always warm type of thing. Yep. But I really enjoyed it because there's a lot of um new, it's from the perspective of each character, too.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But like if you look closely, it'll say Chuck, Tommy on each page. So on each chapter.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. So Yeah, I think I've only gotten through the first chapter yet.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so it probably said Chuck.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Next chapter will probably say Tommy, and then it'll probably say Chuck, Tommy.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's gonna be confusing for me.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not as bad as you think, actually.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You would think sometimes I struggle with that, but it's third person.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00

So it's not like I, like I can't do that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

That's how the deal was, and I couldn't do it. Oh I couldn't do it because it was going from perspective from perspective from Hannah to and Garrett back and forth, and I was like, I can't remember who I'm reading about right now. That's where I struggled. This is third person, and it would be like Tommy's blank did this, Chuck's feelings felt this, blah blah blah. So it's third person. Oh, it's a lot easier to understand.

SPEAKER_01

Makes sense.

SPEAKER_00

And that's one of the things I liked about it. But let me let keep me updated on it because it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_01

Dive deeper into it.

SPEAKER_00

No pun intended.

SPEAKER_01

How are you liking my book?

Nick has started "How to Juggle Ballads and Blades"

SPEAKER_00

I like it so far, and I also like that it's kind of like shorter.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's gonna be an easy quick read for me. Um I was looking for an audiobook. Sucks there's no audiobook, but yeah, um I do like it so far.

SPEAKER_01

I You know, I've been seeing a lot of like podcast episodes about it.

SPEAKER_00

Really?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like people reviewing this book. Because I was trying to find the audiobook on uh like YouTube or something? On Spotify. And yeah, a lot of people have reviewed the book, which is interesting. I haven't like listened to any of them.

SPEAKER_00

It has like a four-star on Goodreads.

SPEAKER_01

That's cool.

SPEAKER_00

That's really good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, well, we have uh we follow the author, obviously, and sh and they post about it every now and then, which I think is cool. So I'm glad that we get to see I get to see their like art for it and stuff, which I think is great. But yeah, the author, they're really cool, and I'm liking their way of writing so far. So I'm excited to see kind of where that goes. Um, which I'm I like it so far. I I don't want to say too much. Obviously, I mean like I don't want you to say too much.

SPEAKER_01

We will say more once we're done with each other's books.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Once I I finish How to Juggle Ballads and Blades and you finish Poolside, there will be a full-on review.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, there will be.

SPEAKER_00

And it's most likely gonna be in a couple weeks, it'll probably be a bit. Just because there's a little bit of, you know, size difference between these books.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

So you're gonna need a little more time.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Which is fine.

SPEAKER_01

And it it did, mind you, it did take me a while to get through this one.

SPEAKER_00

Did it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Were there some things you were kind of iffy about?

SPEAKER_01

Or it was just there's a lot more describers than there is dialogue. Oh. So, like, you know, take for example heated rivalry. There's so much dialogue. And granted, there's a lot of like perspective thoughts going on.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So this is more like you're um like describing the background, describing what they're doing, describing what they're going to go do, and so like there can be whole scene changes in one paragraph. And so it's I mean, it's very fast paced, but it it's also like I had to reread a few pages because I was like, oh, what's wait, what, wait, what?

SPEAKER_00

It'd be like that sometimes.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And um I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I had that a lot with Song of Achilles.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, makes sense.

SPEAKER_00

Just like because I had to make sure I knew what I was reading.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. That makes sense. Um but yeah, so there's not a lot of whole whole lot of like conversations happening.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So that'll still be interesting. Kind of like watching a silent film almost. No, bad, bad analogy. Okay. Um yeah, I I do I do like it so far. I'm excited to deep dive into it and see how it goes. Yeah. Because I definitely think the idea of it's really cool. Like, you know, a sapic romance, Renaissance Fair, that sounds awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So slow burn for sure.

SPEAKER_00

It is a slow burn. See, I think you and I are very different

Slow Burns Debate

SPEAKER_00

on slow burns perspective. I personally don't mind slow burns, depending on how slow the burn is.

SPEAKER_01

The slow burn has to have yearning. Like terrible aching yearning.

SPEAKER_00

Tough guy. Tough guy was a slow burn, in my opinion. Or was it no, wait, which one was a slow burn? Out of all these, one of them was a slow burn. Which one was it? Was it common goal?

SPEAKER_01

No, I think it was tough guy. Tough guy took a minute. Tough guy took a minute for sure. That was a slower burn. Um, but it was like halfway through the book when they finally got together.

SPEAKER_00

Officially, yeah. Officially. They had kissed, but like it wasn't like again, will they want they type of thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But like, I personally kind of like the buildup to that. The um the You know what I I'm sorry. Wait, go on.

SPEAKER_01

No, clearly you have something in your brain.

SPEAKER_00

There's this book coming out. Yeah, I can't get stuff. And I don't know, I don't remember what it's called, but I keep seeing ads for it on our Instagram. And I saved it to our Instagram, so if you're ever on our Instagram, you can look through. I have like tons of post saves about new books coming out.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But there's this book coming out about two uh neighbors in an apartment.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And one of the quotes was just like, I saw you naked, we shouldn't be talking, and he's just and it's just like kind of like escalates from there. Like, I like that kind of story where like you like they clearly like each other, but then they accidentally walk in on each other showering or whatever the fuck it is, and then it kind of like builds up more and more stuff like that happens to the point where they're like, fuck it. I love that kind of story. I think that type of slow burn is great.

SPEAKER_01

That type of slow burn, that is great.

SPEAKER_00

That is fantastic. The hinting of it. Yeah, that's yearning.

SPEAKER_01

Like that's that is great. You the when I think of yearning, I think of I gotta send you that later now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um because we're gonna read that one.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, my left nostril just keeps dripping. Um When I think of yearning, I think of Jonathan Bailey in season two of Bridgerton.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

That is my definition of yearning.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, with what's her name?

SPEAKER_01

Um I can't remember her name.

SPEAKER_00

She's so cute.

unknown

Fuck her.

SPEAKER_00

I can't remember her name either, but she's gorgeous. Um, and so is he. Uh, but yeah, no, totally. I totally get that. But I think that's where this book is so far. It's so far, it's there's not much yearning, but it is a slow burn.

SPEAKER_01

There's yearning from because every the whole book is from Chicot's perspective.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And so there is some yearning on her side, but it's because you don't really get to see Monty's point of view. Um it's just it like she doesn't have the guts to do anything about it yet. And for at least for a while. And so it's just a lot of, yeah, will they, won't they?

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I'm excited about that though. I I feel like you and I have very different takes on slow burns, though. I kind of like slow burns, again, depending on what the slow burn is.

SPEAKER_01

Slow yeah, like, but like, you know, we we're rehashing this conversation. This is going back around in a circle.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. It's okay, but it's just fun to talk about.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's just yeah, once again, it's the I if I want to read a slow burn, I want to read it because of the yearning, not because of the oh she's cute, oh they're cute.

SPEAKER_00

Good night. Literally.

SPEAKER_01

And then that's the same thing over and over and over again. I'm like, no, I want to see the scenes that like Steamy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Is that so slowburn is definitely not your favorite trope?

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

What is your favorite trope?

SPEAKER_01

Just a lot of sex.

SPEAKER_00

She said, just a lot of sex. That's fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_01

If it's anything my favorite It's good though, I agree. If it's anything my favorite Disney one of my favorite Disney princesses growing up was Booty and the Beast.

SPEAKER_00

Belle?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, she's cool. Yeah. So if you take from that, then go forward into what kind of books I like. Very much like Hades and Persephone.

SPEAKER_00

Are you interested in like the monstrous mut or no?

SPEAKER_01

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe? Maybe because we were I think we were recommended some stuff for.

SPEAKER_01

I think I have some stuff from that book fair that might be monster.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I know I there should be some in um damsels after dark at Wellbird Damsel in that area.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, oh yes.

SPEAKER_00

Because there's a vampire section, I think there's a monster section too.

SPEAKER_01

I think I have some for books. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And we might be able to go back there today.

SPEAKER_00

Can we?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I thank God. I was hoping you'd I was really hoping you'd want to go. Because I really want to go. Um, but yeah, no, I love a good slow burn depending on what it is. I gotta send you that um book though. It looked so cute. I think it comes out in August. Um, but anyway, our books are going well, obviously.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And we will be reviewing them as soon as we're done. Trust me, I I I usually run the Instagram.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Just being real. I usually run the Instagram. I am there's nothing wrong with that. I just want to do it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I have no energy to do it.

SPEAKER_00

There's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

When I first started this, I said all I need.

SPEAKER_01

Huh? Some people hire people to do it. Yeah, and I I like to do it for fun.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's fun. Me personally, I remember when we started doing this, when I asked you about it, I was like, all I need from you is to show up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, quite literally. All I need from you, and you're like, the one time I tried to help with the lights, I started breaking things.

SPEAKER_00

Our set was falling apart. I was like, sit down. Leave.

SPEAKER_01

Literally when Jenk when Jenkins was here and I was just sitting and he was just like, Are you gonna help? But I'm like, last time I helped, I almost broke something. So then he started laughing. Yeah. I was like, no, I'm not gonna help. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I told you not to, too. I was like, yeah, she likes, yeah, trust me, Jinx. Like it was a whole it was a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01

It's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_00

It was a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01

And he thought it was funny.

SPEAKER_00

He did think it was funny. Um, but yeah, we're I love running on Instagram. I can send um the new books. Yeah, I'll I'll show you what I have saved. I have a lot of good stuff saved that I'm excited about. Some sort stuff hasn't even come out yet. Like Taylor E. Weston, the author of Poolside, is writing a siren romance.

SPEAKER_01

That's interesting. That's gonna be really interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Which I think is really exciting. I think it's really exciting. I'm really excited about that.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um talk about some movies.

Movie Talk

SPEAKER_00

We did kind of already talk about Heartstopper. Um we will be watching, so for those who don't know, that does come out tomorrow. Because this is, say, you know, this is released on Thursday, so that does come out tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We will not be watching it tomorrow, though. We will be watching it on Sunday night.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, and we will re review it next episode.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we will do a full review of it next episode. Um and we'll see how that goes, which will be fun. But I watched three different movies recently.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, you did.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. I think I was telling you about them. So the first one's called Pillion. I think that's how you pronounce it.

SPEAKER_01

It's with um I'm gonna just gonna pull it up as a reference.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think that's how it's pronounced, although don't like officially quote me on that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yes, Pillion, I know exactly what it's like.

SPEAKER_00

It's in England.

SPEAKER_01

It's um Oh my god, dad, the actor, that they're both really hot. Okay, first of all, listen Skarsgaard and Harry Melling.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and Alexander Skarsgard, his brother is Pennywise the Clown.

SPEAKER_01

Oh!

SPEAKER_00

Okay, makes sense. Um and their dad is in the MCU, actually. He's in the Thor movies.

SPEAKER_01

Bill Skarsgard? No.

SPEAKER_00

Um Stellan? Yeah. I think that's his name. Can I see?

SPEAKER_01

He's in I know him from Mamma Mia.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, he's in Mamma Mia, and he's also in the Dune movies, and he's in um the MCU as well.

SPEAKER_01

But that's who is he in the MCU?

SPEAKER_00

He's in the Thor movies, he's like the scientist that works with um Natalie Portman.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. That's her dad, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

No, it's not her dad, it's just like someone that works with her.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then eventually he works with SHIELD in the Avengers movie.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah, so it's those two actors. Here's kind of the premise of it. And listen.

SPEAKER_01

He has six siblings.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's a lot of them. There's a lot of them.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. Anyways, sorry.

SPEAKER_00

So great. I saw I saw a lot of clips from it, and I was like, this, I just need to watch this. Because you know, most of the time I'll be scrolling on Instagram or TikTok, and do you know what DramaBox is? Where it's like those like reels of a story that you kind of have to follow on Instagram.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, I love those.

SPEAKER_00

I do too, but they're so like cringy.

SPEAKER_01

So into it. I do too, and you're like, what's gonna happen?

SPEAKER_00

You have to like pee and I'm like, girl.

SPEAKER_01

I cannot tell you how many times. Oh my god, Alex, do not yell at me, but I cannot tell you how many how much of my money I have spent towards that bullshit just to finish watching a stupid hockey romance.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

That is the cringiest thing on the planet, but oh my god, I have okay. You keep talking about Pillion. I am finding somebody that I need to fucking show you that I'm have like a tiny little crush on.

SPEAKER_00

First of all, Pillion is no this um we um have not really discussed much of this, and it's not really something that we have talked about, but it's very BDSM. Very BDSM. Like the Skarsgard's character, he almost barely talks in the movie. He's telling him what to do. Because like I think in that type of relationship, sometimes there's certain roles, if you know what you mean by that. Have you heard of this? Is it how in BDSM sometimes there's roles for each partner? So it was very weird. I'm not gonna lie. It wasn't my favorite. I didn't like it that much. However, the actors did an amazing, phenomenal job. I loved their performances as these characters. Are you gonna watch it or no?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I mean, I would like to, but if it makes me uncomfortable, then I'm not gonna lie to you, Sarah.

SPEAKER_00

I almost turned it off.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so maybe not.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um I just I I think that I just it I wasn't a big fan of it. Um then again, like I'm sure some people enjoy it, and that's great. It's a good movie for people that enjoy that type of category. You know, I just guess I'm not into the whole BDSM shit. You know what I mean? I don't know. It's just do you get what I mean by that though?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Okay, going back to Drama Box.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Drama Box. Oh my god, don't get me started.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

Drama Box Reels...

SPEAKER_01

Between you and me.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

unknown

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

It's so stupid. Where do you get this?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Because I want to add, um, I don't know how much it is per like five-second episode. Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But it's like 30 bucks.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god. There's there's a wrestling one that I watched. Okay, wrestling.

SPEAKER_01

I watch all the hockey ones.

SPEAKER_00

Have you? Anyway, we'll talk about this more off-screen. But DramaBox is cool.

SPEAKER_01

Like, like, like just that's one of these, Sarah.

unknown

Yes!

SPEAKER_01

I don't know why I just love this guy so much.

SPEAKER_00

He's cute.

SPEAKER_01

And like, he. I really wish he would get out of drama box and go to like actual film. Yeah, honestly, let's just talk about it.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Evan Adams. Okay, first off, is this straight? No. This is hetero talk. All right, we're going to hetero talk. Just first No, no, I'm asking if this story that you're talking about is straight. No, I'm not talking about a specific story. I'm talking about the actor Evan Adams.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. Yes, the actor is probably straight.

SPEAKER_01

Who's yes?

SPEAKER_00

Hetero Chatter.

SPEAKER_01

Hetero Chatter. This from Drama Box. If you guys have ever been on Drama Box, this actor, Evan Adams. Now, drama box, uh, short reels, um, any any of that stuff.

SPEAKER_00

You come across them on TikTok, and once you do, they're gonna keep popping up.

SPEAKER_01

They keep popping up and they suck me in, and I know that they I know. I know, I understand.

SPEAKER_00

I understand.

SPEAKER_01

However, these corporations, it's a bad term for them, because they're not corporations, but these productions are I've done my research on these guys. They have been they are scripted and filmed within a day.

SPEAKER_00

That's wild.

SPEAKER_01

So that's why the acting is kind of cringy. That's why it's poor script writing, but these actors get paid to just, you know, like push out as many films as they can. And granted, the and like the outfits, the styling, the sets are fine. The sets are honestly fine.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But it and like some of the the storylines are cute and they're good and they're like quality content, and but they're some of them are just such bad drama because it's all terrible, disgusting communication. And it's it is it's no, it's like it's terri it's like so messy to the point where it's just completely unrealistic.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because you have like, let's set it up really quick. Because now I'm just ranting, and you're just gonna let me. That's fine. And in, I think it's short reels. Never read that one. Not Drama Box, because Drama Box is specific to like romance stories. Short reels is specific to this daughter was um like as a child sent away to a st like to a school uh a school, or you know, she was kidnapped as a child, and then she comes back and she's the heir to the uh Edwards Company. Very basic. Edward company. Yeah, we don't know what they do, what they do. They give push papers, I don't give a fuck. It's the fact that she's the like the heir to the company. Okay, and then but like everybody who works there doesn't believe her, they outcast her, they're like, Who are you? Why are you here? Um, like you don't deserve to be here. Like Jesus. Yeah, and then she tries to say, like, no, I'm this is my name, like this is my last name, and they're like, You're lying. That's not who you are. You're lying. You're lying just because you're you're a piece of trash, and like what like are like is that even uh a Gucci dress, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_00

No one says that.

SPEAKER_01

No, they don't that's exactly my point.

SPEAKER_00

And so it's like that concept of like people bullying in shows. I'm over here like, this is not how bullying actually works.

SPEAKER_01

This is not actually how bullying actually works. No, and it's so unrealistic to the point where it's frustrating, but all you want to do is root for this girl.

SPEAKER_00

They make it more brutal.

SPEAKER_01

They make it more brutal, but also you could just cut out the fucking middleman. Show them your ID and be like, this is who I fucking am. Do you want me to call five other million people to tell you who I am? Because you obviously cannot listen. Yeah, for real. And you obviously just are so stuck up and can't. You're you're so dumb. You're so dumb. You're the worst. Literally go home. Literally go home.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And so, yes, I pay money to watch these stupid fucking movies. Because they're just like 30 minutes long.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like 40 minutes long. They're not they're not that long.

SPEAKER_00

They're kind of good though.

SPEAKER_01

And so taking me back to Evan Adams. Evan Adams, I he's fine. He's fine. He is a great actor. I really think he has a lot of potential.

SPEAKER_00

Achilles?

SPEAKER_01

No. No! That was you! No! No, not Achilles. But like maybe Troy Barrett. Or maybe uh an actor in Hated Rivalry. That's where I rank him at. I'm like, because that's exactly where Connor Story and Hudson Williams were before they went on to Heated Rivalry. Yes, they were, they were, that's right. So I'm like I don't know why I'm snapping, I'm sorry. No, you're because poetry. Poetry slams. Poetry. Yes. And that like that's where Evan Adams is right now. And I'm like, I really think he just has the potential to be an actor on a show like he did rivalry, where you know he doesn't have to play a gay person. But I'm just saying that like Wyatt Hayes. Oh what?

SPEAKER_00

Wyatt Hayes.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, exactly. He could play um just he could he has the potential.

SPEAKER_00

Luca.

SPEAKER_01

Luca?

unknown

Luca.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, he can play Luca! My god. See, he just he has the potential, and I wish he would try and do projects like that and not just stick to I could and not just stick to drama box. Like, listen, you're very talented. Like you're you're very talented. And like a lot of these other actors are too, but it's specifically Evan Adams. I'm sorry, but I'm gonna die on this hill specifically for him. I'm sorry, but that's just anyways.

SPEAKER_00

Um back to movies. Yes. So Pillion. Pillion. It's it's very like, I don't know. It's drama box-coded? No. Is that what you were saying? No. That's how we got onto this. I don't remember how and I don't care.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um anyway.

SPEAKER_01

A kinky gay biker game.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so tell me about Colin and Ray.

SPEAKER_00

The two main Okay, so yeah, let me break it down. Colin and Ray. Colin is played by the Scarskard.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

Or no, Colin is um Harry Melling. Harry Melling.

SPEAKER_01

Harry's Harry Potter's brother.

SPEAKER_00

No, Harry Potter's cousin. He plays Dudley in the Harry Potter movies from like to the 2000s. Yes. Yep. That's who he is.

SPEAKER_01

Which mind you, after the Harry Potter movies, he got hot.

SPEAKER_00

He lost, he did lose a lot of weight, it looks like.

SPEAKER_01

He lost a lot of weight and he grew his hair out and he got hot.

SPEAKER_00

He's great in the movie. Yeah, I know. It's if they can see that. Um so anyway, Ray and Colin.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Ray and Colin are very they meet at a bar, and Ray just comes up and he's just like, it just says, meet me in this alley at this time. And Colin's like, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, is it kind of like one of those shower scenes between Illy and Shane? Where like you just you look at each other and you just you just know.

SPEAKER_00

Uh well that part kinda. But then they go to the alley and he comes in and he's just in leather suspenders. That's it. Ray is only in leather suspenders.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then you hear zipping. Out it comes, right?

SPEAKER_01

Do you see it? Yes.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

It's pierced.

SPEAKER_01

Of course it is. Anyway. Of course it is. Anyway. You're in a gay BDSM kinky biker game. So what else would you do? So besides get your penis pierced.

SPEAKER_00

So get the Prince Albert. So they have some fun in the alley.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then it's kind of like back and forth, and he's kind of like, Ray's kind of like, oh, I'm not really looking for relationship or whatever, blah, blah, blah. And then he sees him again and again. And again, and again. But all those times he's going to Ray's house and Ray's like, here's what I need you to do. I need you to pick up groceries. I need you to go to a store. I need you to get these different things. Make sure this is done. All this stuff. He makes him a chore list.

SPEAKER_01

So he basically treats him like a slave?

SPEAKER_00

No, I mean, but once he's done with that, he's like kind of rewarded, I guess.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

So I don't know. Correct us if we're wrong. I don't know much about BDSM.

SPEAKER_01

It's a praise kink. If you do a good job, because you're treated like a dog. If you do the trick, then you get the reward.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You get the treat. And so if you do, if you go shopping, you get a treat. You cook my f cook me food, you get a treat.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Do this, you get a treat. Do this, you get a treat.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's I think that's type of kink for BDSM too, and I think that's what this was.

SPEAKER_01

Anything can be anything can be a kink in BDSM.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but I didn't know. I like I said, I like correct me if I'm saying wrong information, but I don't know much about BDSM.

SPEAKER_01

No, you don't. I know you don't.

SPEAKER_00

That's okay. And I I just don't. I'm just being honest. I don't. But now I know a little more, and that's fine.

SPEAKER_01

But this is not just don't don't overthink it. BDSM is not a thing that is like you're judged for not knowing.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no, I know.

SPEAKER_01

Because if some people are just vanilla. I just yeah, and some people just they just want plain sex on a bed.

SPEAKER_00

And that's I just I don't need I just wanted to see what it was like. And I watched it. And it's yeah, it was very back and forth. His he meets Colin's parents at one point.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And he's like, his parents are very like, he seems to be stressing you out. I feel like you're always kind of going when he needs you, like can like when it's convenient for him type thing.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

And the mom's just like, Well, what's your deal? She literally says that to him, and Colin's like, oh my god, please don't. She's like, No, I want to watch you know what I want to know what your deal is. And I'm quoting this woman when she says, No, I want to know why you're such a cunt. Her words, not mine.

SPEAKER_01

I love it.

SPEAKER_00

I laughed my ass off, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_00

Um it definitely spirals out of control. Do you care if I spoil it or no?

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_00

Spoilers for who those who actually want who wanna watch it, but whatever. Anyway, they He ends up leaving. Ray just leaves. Out of nowhere. He's gone. Gone.

SPEAKER_01

Leaves his apartment behind.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. He moves out, he leaves. Never sees him again. Doesn't say bye, anything like that. He's just he's gone. Although he does kind of get Colin does shave his head, has a chain around his neck at one point, like very biker-coated. And I think all these other guys were gay as well and had BDSM stuffs going on with them too. But it just going into it, I thought it would be a lot better than I I thought it'd be a lot better. But after the credits started to roll, I was like, that wasn't for me.

SPEAKER_01

No, there's probably nothing humorous about it.

SPEAKER_00

No, and it just wasn't I didn't I didn't I just didn't like it. I mean, like, I'm sure if other people like it, that's great. It's made for those people that enjoy that stuff. I just personally don't enjoy that. You know what I mean? Yeah. But um, I watched that. Another movie I watched is called Mario,

Nick Talks About "Mario" (2018) No not from Nintendo!

SPEAKER_00

and no, not Mario Brother, not Mario and Luigi. Although that's a good new movie, it's not what I'm talking about. It's called Mario, it takes place in Germany. And since the World Cup is going on, I was like, just watch some gay soccer. Might as well. So I watched it and I was like, this looks cute. Actors are adorable, and I think it's in Dutch, I think. Like, I don't know if they were speaking German, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_01

I think it would make sense, right?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. I'm very bad with geography and like cultural things, but I want to say, look up pool look up uh not pool side, look up Mario 2018. And tell me what language it comes up in. And tell me where it takes place.

SPEAKER_01

Swiss German.

SPEAKER_00

Swiss German. What's the language?

SPEAKER_01

Swiss German.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so it's not Dutch. What the fuck was I thinking? I don't know either. Anyway, it's in German. It's a German movie. And it's about this uh soccer star. They're kind of it says they're rivals, but they're really not, honestly. Do you see the actors though? Like click images.

SPEAKER_01

So you weren't wrong about Dutch. What sorry. Dutch is comes from West Germanic language.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So it's still German. It's sharing it's a mix between English and German.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So did you hit images though? Do you see them? 2018.

SPEAKER_01

2018. Uh-oh. Wait. Aren't they cute? That's very uh broke back mountain coated.

SPEAKER_00

Scroll. Scroll's a selfie picture.

SPEAKER_01

They're really cute.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, so they don't end up together.

SPEAKER_01

He chose soccer, didn't he?

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_00

The blonde chose soccer over him. And he left. And ended up with a new boy at the end. He could have just stayed with the same boy. So Leon is the brunette. He has black or brown hair, one taking a selfie. He wanted to be with um Mario. Mario put soccer first and decided to only focus on soccer. So Mario, or so Leon left. He was like, I can't do this. I'm leaving.

SPEAKER_01

And then So Leon got the new boy.

SPEAKER_00

So Leon has a new boy by the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, good. I was gonna say, if m Mario left, chose soccer, and then got a new boy, I would be like, no, you could have just stayed with the same fucking boy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that would have been that would have pissed me off. Yeah. You actually might like that one. Look at I enjoyed that one a little more than Pillion, a lot more than Pillion, actually. And then last night, this one's probably my favorite so far. I watched a movie called In From the Side. It's gay rugby

Nick Talks About "In From The Side"

SPEAKER_00

team, an all-gay rugby team. That doesn't look really cute. And the main characters are Mark and Warren. And this is really messy because they hook up and then Warren's like, I can't believe you dragged me here. I have a boyfriend. When Warren's the one that indicated everything. And then you find out that Mark's in an open relationship, but it can only be with that person that he hooks up with once. There are no second visits. So then all of this shit goes down. It's very messy. And guess what happens in the end? They don't end up together.

SPEAKER_03

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

So I don't know why I've been choosing three movies back to back where they don't end up together. But hey, I don't make the rules. I just looked at movies that I was interested in and started watching them, and that's what happened. I mean, I don't know. I don't, like I said, it's not. I think you'd enjoy the rugby one. The rugby one's it's in England. Or yes. You know, United Kingdom. That one's good. Um, so yeah, some good movies.

SPEAKER_01

Um I know what you need to rewatch next.

SPEAKER_00

What do I need to watch next? Thumb and Louise? Because I thought we were gonna watch that together.

SPEAKER_01

No, not Thumb and Louise. Good almonds. Our flag means death.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, listen. Our flag means death is on the list.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

As soon as I'm done re-watching Heartstopper.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Because I know last time I mentioned it, you said you we need to finish Smallville first.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, listen. No, no, no, no, for real. Listen. I don't know what I listen. I love Tom Welling. I love Michael Rosenbaum. I love Smallville, but I couldn't get into season nine. Claire and I stopped watching.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's where my mom stopped watching too.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's good, it's still a good show, but it just felt like it just I just felt like it was the same thing, and I was just like, I'm not really invested as much as I used to be. And I thought it would change with Supergirl coming out, but it didn't. Maybe I'll finish it someday, but I think our flag means death, and I want to read, but I want to watch that while I'm reading Demon of the Deep. The pirate book.

SPEAKER_01

You could.

SPEAKER_00

Or I could watch that first and then I'll probably end up yeah. So I think that will be next. Um you need to watch Love Victor, though.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

They're really short. Like it's literally three seasons. The last season only has eight episodes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because now that Love Island was done,

Hetero Chatter Love Island Season 8

SPEAKER_01

I need to find something else to play.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, Love Island. Back to some slight heterochatter. Season eight is over. Yes. Rice and Trinity have won. Yep. As they should. Anaya and Carl are in second place.

SPEAKER_01

I just feel so bad for Kenzie.

SPEAKER_00

Girl, listen. Okay. So here's here. So Kenzie did find Dylan.

SPEAKER_01

But then Dylan became a fucking camera hog.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there is some stuff going around that he was looking in the cameras and then got the waterworks set up. However, you know how Kenzie was hopping kind of a little bit from guy to guy for a while?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

She did go up to Dylan's mom during family day and was like, I just want to let you know that I do have genuine feelings for him and that this is real. That's when I kind of like, I was like, okay, she's kind of redeemed herself there. But she still got dumped from the island because I think. Well, for some reason, Melanie and Sincere got third place. Listen, I love Melanie, she's a baddie.

SPEAKER_01

See, I just want Alex and I to go on the show and to just go undercover. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That'd be funny.

SPEAKER_01

And then win a bunch of money. Because we would get first place.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, exactly. Because you're you've been dating for over almost almost 10 years.

SPEAKER_01

Also, I'm just thinking about like I put Alex and I in the situations that they do. And like when the boys go to Casa Moore, I just imagine Alex being so incredibly awkward.

SPEAKER_00

And just sitting in the corner.

SPEAKER_01

Just sitting in the corner and like not knowing what to do.

SPEAKER_00

The fact that Bryce cried over Trinity when they were there, and Trinity cried over Bryce when they were separated was heartbreaking. But yeah, I that I listen, Melanie's a baddie though.

SPEAKER_01

She's a baddie?

SPEAKER_00

She's a baddie. She's great. I love her. Melanie's with Sincere though, and she needs to be not with Sincere. Sincere is not sincere.

SPEAKER_01

But like, okay.

SPEAKER_00

And you named your child after an adjective.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, don't don't fucking do that. Don't fucking do that. Go with a vintage name instead. Alright? Don't, you're not unique. You're stupid.

SPEAKER_00

It's stupid. Sincere, no, he's my least favorite.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so I remember a few episodes when the boys came to Love Island and like all the bombshell boys, the 12 of them.

SPEAKER_00

Casa Moore.

SPEAKER_01

Casa Moore, but it wasn't, they're not, it's not called Casa Moore. Casa Moore is where the boys are.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, but it's still they're still considered Casa Boys. But yeah. Okay, fine.

SPEAKER_01

So, yeah, Casa Boys. When the Casa Boys came and Melanie was talking with them, Melanie specifically said to one of the boys that she wants to find a man who will settle down with her, build a house, do farmsteading, have chickens, uh plant have a garden, have make everything from scratch, live on a farm, stuff like that. And so she's that's what she wanted. And so then after every boy that she was talking to, I was imagining her with a boy that could do that. And the only one I can imagine her doing that with is Sincere. Girl, you're like this too. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Uh but he's the worst.

SPEAKER_01

No, but her and Sincere, like out of the show.

SPEAKER_00

They're screwed.

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't think they are. I will place a bet. Metaphorical bet. I'm not giving you my fucking money. A metaphorical bet.

SPEAKER_00

That they'll still be do you think they'll still be together by the reunion?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Do you know when the reunion is?

SPEAKER_01

August 31st.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I wrote it down from your paper. I'm cheating. I'm cheating off your whole words.

SPEAKER_00

So you think they'll still be together by the reunion?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Is there anybody you don't think will be together by the reunion? Kenzie and Dylan. They're not gonna be together.

SPEAKER_01

No. No, they're not gonna be. Okay. Zach and Kata.

SPEAKER_00

I think they there's 50-50 chance.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's a 50-50 chance. I like them. Trinity and Bryce?

SPEAKER_00

100%. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Melanie and Cecil? Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Carlin and I am maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. I'm gonna say yes. I think they will.

SPEAKER_00

I think they could work it out. I know they're long distance, but I think they could work it out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think they can. Um otherwise they'll still be friends.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, 100%. Carl just seems like that type of guy you could still be friends with.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. And um Corbin and Parmita? Would they come back to the reunion?

SPEAKER_00

They should they should so everybody's coming to the reunion. Beatrice, Sean.

SPEAKER_01

Beatrice and uh, what's his fucking name? Gabriel. Gabriel. I think those two will be together.

SPEAKER_00

They clarified recently that they're just gonna be friends.

unknown

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. There's a live stream. Because she was also coupled up with Sean, remember? That was the police officer.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she was. But then she broke it off.

SPEAKER_00

To go to Gabriel, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So everyone that has ever been on the show will be at this reunion.

SPEAKER_01

I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00

Everybody. That's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Caleb. Jaden. Um. Yeah. I love Caleb. He's a cutie.

SPEAKER_01

Thought he was kind of air.

SPEAKER_00

The reason he's good is because he's not toxic and there's nothing like he's not cut, he's not stirring the pot. Same with Carl. Carl just has a little more personality.

SPEAKER_01

Carl has a that's exactly what I'm saying. Carl has to be a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00

Carl has more personality than Caleb.

SPEAKER_01

But see, like, being toxic is not a personality.

SPEAKER_00

No, no. No, that's not what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

It's not a personality. I was just saying that. It's the fact that Caleb, I don't give a shit that he's quiet. It's the fact that actually no, it is the fact that he's quiet. He doesn't talk about his family, doesn't talk about his life, doesn't talk about his home.

SPEAKER_00

I'm pretty sure he's the youngest.

SPEAKER_01

In his family?

SPEAKER_00

In the show. He just turned 21.

SPEAKER_01

21? Why are you on a frickin' game show at 21 trying to find your true love? Do you realize that you've only been on this planet for 21 years? You know, Brian says 21 years. That makes more sense. It's just just stop being dramatic. It's like me.

SPEAKER_00

I have time.

SPEAKER_01

Yes! Like stop being dramatic and thinking that you have to go on these game shows to find somebody because you're 21 and you can't find anybody who will date you.

SPEAKER_00

If anything, wouldn't that make it worse?

SPEAKER_01

It will make it worse.

SPEAKER_00

It's your public figure now. Yes!

SPEAKER_01

Yes! For the next five to ten years.

SPEAKER_00

And everyone's gonna make shit up about you. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And now you're not gonna be able to find anybody until you're 35 or 40. Good job!

SPEAKER_00

It's so teen, though.

SPEAKER_01

It's so teeny. It's everybody else who's in their 30s that that's when it's like a reasonable time to go.

SPEAKER_00

Rice.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Um because that's the time when you kind of start to get worried a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

When you're 30s.

SPEAKER_00

Understandable.

SPEAKER_01

Like. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway. I'm just Love Island is a good show.

SPEAKER_01

I know I need to shut the fuck up because I met Alex when I was a freshman in high school.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say, um really girlfriend.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm I think I have some good advice there. Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00

You're you're not wrong, no.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just saying Love Island's still a good show to watch.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, for sure, but I just feel like if you're why? Why are you why?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I I have a soft spot for Caleb. I think you knew this. Are you okay with doing that on camera?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I wear shorts. It's fine. I wear I wear shorts because I get chub rub.

SPEAKER_00

What is that?

SPEAKER_01

Chub rub is where your thighs are too thick, right here. And so you got a little bit of fat that rubs together and it makes a rash.

SPEAKER_00

Owie.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It just happens when you're a thick girly.

SPEAKER_00

You are curvy girl.

SPEAKER_01

I am curvy. I got an S.

SPEAKER_00

You do. Um, I can keep that in there.

SPEAKER_01

Yes! I like bragging about my butt.

SPEAKER_00

Anyways. Um we will be talking about the reunion though when that comes out.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I'm so excited for that.

SPEAKER_00

And we'll be talking about Beyond the Villa. I told you about Beyond the Villa, right?

unknown

I don't like Beyond the Villa.

SPEAKER_00

Have you watched it?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. When?

SPEAKER_00

I watched it when it was uh Beatrice. Beatrice hasn't been on Beyond the Villa. You're thinking of After Sun. Oh. After Sun's the interview. Beyond the Villa is their lives after all of this. So you're gonna see how they're doing dating. How they're doing, where are they right now? Where do they live? What's going on with them?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Did one of them move?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, did one of them move? Are you visiting each other? You know, it's like a day in life type of thing. But it's messy because then here's here's where it's gonna get messy. This is where things are gonna get messy. The show has ended. Everyone is out of Fiji, out of the villa, they're going on podcasts and all these things.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

One thing they say, it's gonna stir a pot of some kind.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're still gonna be making tea.

SPEAKER_00

It's gonna be making tea, it's gonna get people pissed off, and it's gonna people make people mad. So that's why the reunion is also gonna be most likely pretty messy. Same with Beyond the Villa. And I guarantee you, not all these couples will be together by Beyond the Villa, so they're and then that the last time they're gonna see each other is probably the reunion if they don't work out after that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So it's messy. It's really messy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I need a gay version of it. So bad. So bad.

SPEAKER_01

How would that work out? Like what do you like how do you think that would work out?

SPEAKER_00

What do you mean? Like if it was a there's gotta be gay reality shows.

SPEAKER_01

But like, would you have both men and women on at the same time?

SPEAKER_00

That I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

See, like, think about this.

SPEAKER_00

That's where it's like, well, if a girl gets with a girl, two guys could be dumped from the island.

SPEAKER_01

That's a good point. Yeah. See, like, why haven't they done that with this last season?

SPEAKER_00

Apparently a few seasons ago, Ariana, goddess queen, by the way.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, she said a few seasons ago, two girls did couple up. So, like, she's and she was like, There's no rules.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm over here like, I need a bye guy and a two bye guys to get together.

SPEAKER_01

Like, everybody thinks that there's the rule of what has to be a boy and a girl. Like, we never specified that it could be a boy and a girl.

SPEAKER_00

Usually Ariana at the end of her speeches go, and one more thing. But she never says that about you have to be with a girl.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_00

You know, or you have to be with the boy or whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. There are no rules. You can be with whoever you this is a love show. It's not a nuclear family straight show.

SPEAKER_00

Although in the finale, if you look closely, you can see Anaya and Melanie making out. They're in the pool making out. I know.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe those two get together.

SPEAKER_00

That'd be hot. That'd be hot. Anaya's gorgeous. They're all so pretty. Trinity is a bad bitch. I love her so fucking much.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, who is it making out? Melanie and Anaya?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But Trinity is a bad bitch. I love her. Everybody needs a friend like Trinity. Because remember when they're yelling at Titi and she's like, she can talk to her ass. She can talk to her ass. Yeah. And then freaking Parmita's with Corbin. She's like, I feel pretty confident. And Kata goes, I wouldn't. And then freaking Casey is just like Titi's speaking for Casey, and it just goes to Kata. I love her raspy voice. She goes, You're a girl, man. Speak the fuck up. Speak up. Listen, they do meet and greet sometimes, these islanders. If they're ever in Milwaukee for some godforsaken reason, and if Kata is ever here. I would meet Kata in a fucking heartbeat. Yeah.

Close

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Well, that was a fun little rant.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I ranted a lot. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's okay. It was funny. It was really funny.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, what's next though?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So we're gonna get we're gonna get going. Um it's a bit hot out, so we're gonna go cool off. But um, yeah, thanks for coming, and we will see you guys next week for episode 24. So until then, have a good rest of your week, and we will see you next Thursday. Bye.