Kerri goes to Zambia and Quits Temu

Kerri just got back from Zambia… and let’s just say—she’s changed.

(But also… still very much herself.)

In this episode, Kerri and Suze go from chaotic mom-life (being late, forgetting shoes, ADHD moments) to a raw, honest conversation about mission trips, poverty, privilege, and what it actually means to be transformed by an experience.

Carrie shares what it was like traveling to Zambia with her daughter, working with an incredible school called iDream, and building real relationships with families living in extreme poverty. From delivering mattresses and food to forming friendships over Instagram DMs, the experience left her asking a hard question:

How do you come home changed… and stay that way?

Meanwhile, Suze reflects on her own trip to Uganda and what it means to raise kids who see the world beyond America.

00:00 – Intro + glam vs. didn’t wash hair

01:30 – Being late, mom chaos & ADHD moments

04:00 – Late-in-life ADHD diagnosis

06:15 – Kerri’s Zambia trip begins

08:30 – Suze’s Uganda experience

10:00 – Culture shock & “how do you stay changed?”

11:50 – iDream school + sponsorship impact

14:00 – Poverty, food insecurity & real stories

17:00 – Consumption, privilege & perspective shift

20:30 – Staying connected vs. “magnet kid”

23:30 – Raising kids with global awareness

25:30 – Mental health: U.S. vs. developing countries

30:30 – Faith, purpose & living it out

32:30 – Beauty culture vs. natural beauty

33:00 – Red light mask + skincare talk

35:00 – Lymphatic brush & aging struggles

36:30 – Slim cream fail + mom humor

37:30 – Outro + follow us

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of We Might Get in Trouble for This podcast with your host Carrie and Suze. Suze, today you are full glam bodying and I'm fully overcompensating with jewelry and makeup because I didn't wash my hair. So we're at opposite ends of the spectrum. You look like you're in a white snake video. And for the Gen Z listeners that don't know what White Snake is, it's not a science project. But you're fully like that's the best compliment I could give you today.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Thank you. I don't even know who White Snake is.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Okay, where were you in the 80s? I know you're younger than me. Oh God, I hate that about you. I hate that. White snake is like, here I go again. I'm out. Okay, yeah. Yes, okay, I heard that. And you're the girl on the car. Okay. I think her name was Tawny Katan, and I had that hair. You have that hair. Yes. My hair in its natural state. Because I could do it. I could do it. But um, so tell me about your morning and why are you late? Uh I know. Sorry. I was late. I'm also chewing gum. Okay. So take it on your mouth for the listeners. Take it out right now. Swallow it.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

I don't swallow gum.

SPEAKER_02 1:23

Okay, now that listeners can't hear you, so we're gonna pause. Okay. I don't swallow gum. I don't swallow gum either. I've done it.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

I think freaked out about it. I don't think it's true that it gets stuck on your rib. Uh grows to crack.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

Or grows in your stomach. That's what our teachers used to tell us. Why? Okay, so you told me you tell me why you're late.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Yes. So um I would say that this also it's a problem I'm having in my brain. So yesterday, right, um, I go to pick my kids up at the time I'm supposed to pick them up in my mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Which is a win.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Good for you. No, I was wrong. So I drive, I do the whole school line, everything, and they're like, um, no, they have magic class after, you know, like card tricks, whatever. And um, and so then I have to drive around for an hour because it was an hour early. Today I'm a complete hour late. I was like, I was thinking about the time we filmed, and you know, Wednesdays, women's group, you know, all these things are going on. And I'm like, we film at 10 a.m. for sure. And so I'm doing all these things, you know, and then um we're having a dear friend come over and paint our patio and paint whatever else for us. And um, and so I'm I'm literally like sweeping, I'm taking all the furniture off the patio, putting it somewhere else. Like I and I take a big plant, right? This is like 853. I take a big plant to move it off the patio and gift it, thinking the pot will come with it.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

No, not today.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

So I I pick it up and I picked it up by the stem. It doesn't even what? So I pick it up and then dirt's everywhere. And then I realized we don't we don't film at 10. Carrie's doctor's appointment was not at 9.45, it was at 8.45.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

And I'm so glad the listeners could go on this journey with us.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Yes. So this, so I'm an hour late today, right? And then I have to figure something out. And then and then I'm supposed to wear these leggings, right? So um everyone out there was planning to wear leggings. Um, so I was planning to wear these specific leggings and then I'm I'm searching everywhere for them because I thought I knew exactly where they were, but I didn't know exactly where they were. And so um, I'm like, I can't see anything because my room is so dark and I have a, you know, I only have a lamp on and I don't want to open my blinds because then everyone can see into my bedroom. And I'm right, I've just gotten out of the shower, right? So I forget that I have an overhead light. I have an overhead light. Is now the time to tell our listeners you have ADHD. Oh, oh yeah. I have ADHD, guys.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Is now the time to tell our listeners it was found this out recently.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Yeah, so so I'm 44. I found it out when I was 43, and literally it made my life make so much sense. I can't even tell you how many times like an ADHD thing has come up for me and I didn't even know it was ADHD. To the extent, yeah, I literally have gone, like gotten my kids uh ready, gotten the extra shoes, gotten the snacks, gotten everything, and had to drive to Pharaoh and Ball in Santa Monica, way over, but really lovely. Um I get there. You know, it's a it's a fancy store, yeah. Yeah, I have I I park, I put my money in the meter, and I'm feeling bare. I feel bare.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

Yeah, why are you bare?

SPEAKER_01 4:43

I had forgotten to put on shoes. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

I I you know what? I what I will top you when I was pregnant and very, very, very pregnant. You know, things are happening. I went to my OBGYN appointment, and luckily Sharon and I were friends because I was like, sweetheart, I got out of the shower, I washed the face, I put the dress on, the underwear didn't make it. It just was one of those days where I was like, Sharon, it's you know, you were gonna see it anyway. I just need to let you know that, and one time I did that going to a massage. Now I know we have a male producer and he's probably freaking out right now, but sometimes, and I have a friend who's a male masseuse, and I was driving to the massage and realized it was just one of those like shower throw on the because our female listeners will know that once in a while to be a little freebird is genetically healthy. And then I realized that Basil would have gotten an extra thrill at that massage, so I had to turn the car around because Basil's also a comedian, and you know that would make it into his act, which is just a great segue to wrap up um our week. So I will I will say you have ADHD, and I have it's not undiagnosed, it's undisclosed ADHD. Like I haven't disclosed that I have it to myself or anyone else. It's undisclosed ADHD.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Time out. Important things for all of our listeners between that are female between the ages like 35 and 45. Um paired menopause heightens assumptions of ADHD. That's how I found out.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

And I really I haven't taken the official poison gotten my score, so I don't know if I am because I I don't know. We'll just have to see. And I think it's an interesting topic. We'll delve into that. But um ask me about my week. Say where were you? How was your week and where were you? Oh, it's really funny that you asked that, Susie, because I was in Africa. Uh-huh. I was in Africa. Um, yes. So I I was in Zambia. I uh we'll talk about this because I really wanted to talk about it. I'm gonna be full disclosure. My daughter wanted to go on this mission trip that my church was promoting to go help not really orphans like school children, some orphans' families in Africa. And my first response is, Oh my gosh, I don't want to go, and she wants to go and she can't go alone. So I immediately said to my ex-husband Ron, Lucy wants to go to Africa with you. Now she didn't really say which parent, but I was like, and he's like, She does. I'm like, yeah. Don't you think like that would be a Brody thing? Uh yeah. So me in the dirt, they're like, we're gonna build this cement wall. And I was like, like, hell no, we won't go. And so uh Ron was a gamer, and I'm like, cool, I dodged the bullet. And I really heard in my head, in my little head, God going, but you're going. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And if you've ever read the book of Jonah, which you as a Bible scholar have, uh, that doesn't end well when we tell God where we will not go. Uh and so long story short, Ron couldn't get the passport in time, and I had to get on a plane. And I say had to because I had no choice to go to Africa, long story short. And I psyched myself up for this, and we did the fundraising. And I was a little nauseous the day we left, and I prayed to God that I would throw up because if I threw up, I wouldn't have to go to Africa and Lucy could just go with the group, and they'd be like, Carrie's sick. We had to take malaria pills and all this stuff. So, and I love that we're talking about this because you went to Uganda. Tell me when when did you go?

SPEAKER_01 8:17

I went when I was 26.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

But it wasn't 18 years old. Was it a I'm assuming it wasn't vacation, it was a mission trip.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

No, no, it was a trip to work with uh it was basically like a summer school program for students there, and so we worked with them.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

And who did you did you go with the Christian group?

SPEAKER_01 8:36

I went with a group with uh Francis Chan's old church. Oh, well, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Yeah, so it was yeah, it was churches, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

And so part of the greatest part of that is like we there were uh a lot of Ugandan college students that we got to talk to that. I mean, they're just amazing. And Uganda's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

So, really quick, did you want to go or were you forced to go?

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Yes, I had always wanted to go.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

Okay, so not like me. So I was kind of nauseous and I tried to make myself throw up and I couldn't. And then um, because I'm such a good Christian, I got on the bus and I was just nauseous the whole time and it was so much stress. So we were gonna go for about eight or nine days. And the only thing that was getting me through this is we had a layover in Paris on the way there and a layover in Paris on the way home. And I'm like, I have to get to Paris, right? Because this is what matters in life. And um, I've done Africa before. I went 15 years ago when Lucy was little, and um, it wrecked me. It just wrecked me. I came home. I was just a as we Americans say, I was like a different person. And then um, I was for three months, and then I went back to my old ways. But anyway, so long story short, I want to talk about today that we do these things and we should do these things on purpose. We should have life-changing experiences because how do I come back from this trip and put into words this life-changing experience, which I truly, truly feel is more life-changing than any of the other trips I've been on. And don't sound like a privileged American who's just such a look at me, look at me. And the hypocrisy that I exist in is what I want to talk about. Just to, you know, I called you and immediately I was like, I'm so changed, I'm so changed. I'm I'm not even doing TMU anymore. And like, I'm not. And then I get to the airport on the way home and I'm like, I'm so changed. I'm so changed. Do you guys have business class? Because I cannot play coach. My back is out. I cannot play coach. Uh, and I don't have the money for business class. Let's not get that straight. But whatever money I did have, oh, I was paying it. And I was willing to leave my teenager in the dust, but I upgraded her to premium plus, and then I just stole the business class, which I've never flown business class much at all in my life. Uh so I with these kids, and they're just joyful and they have one meal a day and they don't use utensils. And then 24 hours later, I'm getting in this like reclined bed where they're giving me Swiss chocolates and you know, bus money rice. And I'm trying to put it into words, Susie. How do you live in both universes? And what does God want us to do with that? Do you know what I mean? And I can tell you more about the trip, but that's kind of the question I'm posing as listeners. If you guys have done these things, whether it's a mission trip or you taught English in uh Japan or you had these like life-changing experiences, how do we keep it? How do we keep what we learned, I guess, and not turn into privileged idiots when we get home? I've not figured it out.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

Very, it's it's it's not simple, but I was starting to say a very simple answer. It's continuous engagement. That was really funny.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

This is so great because now, just let me get it out there. I worked with these kids from iDream. It's called iDream, and we're gonna put that all over the show notes because you all need to go there and you all need to support them. And it's a school where my friend Samuel Scapeze started, because he grew up in Zambia. By the way, go to Zambia, it's amazing. Uh, it's a school, and these children are from object poverty, they don't have electricity, they don't have running water, they may not have dinner, and they get to go to this school. If they don't have a place to live, they get to live at the school. They start in kindergarten and they will be educated for free till 12th grade, and every single one of these kids is gonna go to college or trade school. Every single one has the opportunity. But what brings me to my point is I made friends there. I made real friends, and they don't have running water, but you know what they do have, Susie? What do they have? They have a cell phone, they have a cell phone, they all have cell phones. Uh yes, they do. They have cell phones in the family and they don't pay a service fee, but they have apps and they're on the Facebook and the Instagram. So it's really crazy to me because on past mission trips, you get a sponsored child, right? Which we're sponsoring a really cool family, and you're like, I'll write you a letter, and you write me a letter. And she's like, Yeah, just like DM me. I'm on Facebook. And so we've talked every single day. And these friends, I want to give a shout out to Natasha and Moses and John and Sandra and Barbara and all my friends that I made. But the world is becoming so small with technology, where I'm in constant contact with them. If I want to be, I could email them every day. And uh, it's really sort of an oxymoron because I'm like, what are they thinking of me? Like, I'm in Paris, like taking pictures of the chocolate and the croissant, and they're like, I love your outfit. And then I'm feeling like I don't know, like I just want to help them in more ways than I am.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

It feels very conflicting. It really does. So like I went to I had always wanted to go to Africa, and I just happened to a friend a friend was going with this group and asked if I wanted to go. And um, and so I went and it was a very obviously the poverty was so intense.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

And um, and there was one little girl in particular that I mean, I one little girl in particular, she was so sick, and she was so sick because she didn't have running water and didn't have fresh water to eat. So the poverty is so intense. And I think as believers, especially it well, first I'll start with humans. As humans, especially, we can go and we can have an experience, and then we can come back and the routine of life comes back in. Like that is just kind of information taken, release, take in, release, take in, release. Like that's is part of our brains. It's also why people that sometimes have miraculous experiences or miracle experiences, that does not necessarily mean they'll they'll say it's a miracle experience with the Lord. That does not necessarily mean they will continue being a Christian or continue that relationship. We we know, wait, do you know who God just spoke to in the hospital?

SPEAKER_00 15:16

Are you ready?

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Well, I don't know if you know him, but Perez Hilton. Perez Hilton, the blogger from the 2000s. Yes, yes, yes, he was in the hospital for 21 days, and we're gonna put this in the show notes. And I'm not just this is not gossip. He literally said, the Lord, he used the words the Lord presented himself to me, and I was lucid, it was not a dream, and the Lord spoke to me, and I am renewing my faith in the Lord, and I'm taking my kids to church, so you know, sidebar, but uh, I also think that the big theme is consumption. So I'm walking home with my friend, and uh I said to her, I know she lives with her grandmother and her two sisters and her brother, and I said something casual, like, well, what are you having for dinner? And she said, We don't, just in a very casual way. And I was like, Really? She's like, Yeah, we we just don't. And so I did some investigations, and some of the families do not have money. And then I did some further investigations, and uh they don't have mattresses. Now I can't solve all the world's problems, but for this one family, we made sure they're gonna have mattresses and we made sure they're gonna have food. But for me to go into my kitchen cabinets, it did change me today. It did change me in the way I'm looking. Like, and it's we're our Americans, they they must laugh at us. I'm I'm literally emptying out my purse because I couldn't go to the store. I gave her like two bottles of Sprite and I made her this gift bag, and she was like kind of laughing at me. I'm like, here's two bottles of Sprite and some mentos, and I stole the sandwich meat from the cafeteria, and I bought some chips, and I'm sorry. Like she's just like like she's so graceful, right? Because they have Americans come to it all the time. Graceful and super thankful at the same time. And they have so much, the Zambian people, they have like an elegance about them, they have a quietness about them, they do care about fashion. I wanted to give her all my clothes, and Lucy said I couldn't give her this shirt, that's why I wore this shirt today. She's like, Don't give her that old lady, they're not doing silk. And I'm like, fine, fine. So they come to school in beautiful uniforms and they have been washed by hand, you know, like in a basin, they don't have a shower. And so when I'm asking your point blank, like, how many mattresses do you have? And she's like, one, my grandma sleeps on the one mattress. So when you become a sponsor, I just want to speak that to World Vision or all these people. It's real. I'm gonna speak to the ones that I know are real. If you become a sponsor to this organization at iDream, you can get a mattress. And we literally went into the houses of families, delivered a mattress to them, delivered malaria meds. They have about 20 cases of malaria meds a day, and they were out of meds. And so we chipped in. I'm not kidding, I think we raised $25 like snap, and they had a big box of malaria meds. So I think what I'm gonna try to do is I have certain friends that I made there and certain commitments, and these kids aren't dumb. I mean, I got this guy, I'm not gonna say his name, and he knows who he is. He's he's he's hysterical because he's doing his exams for college and he knows he's my buddy because he wants to marry Ruby. You know who you are, and um, he's like, I bypass my exams, what are you gonna buy me? I was like, You know, you've got my heart strings, you know. But does he want a video game? No, you know what he wants? Shoes, you know what I mean? Like pencils. So um, I think I'm just gonna try my best to keep in touch with those people. My daughter had a totally different experience than me. Lucy did not take pictures. Lucy was just like in the moment the whole time, and I'm sitting there trying to capture everything in my and I want to share with people and I want to, you know, come back and post. And she's like, Mom, I don't want to take pictures, I just want to like be in the moment. And then she wants to go back and stay an extended time, possibly and teach and like live on campus. And you know, they were like, would you ever do that? I'm like, as well as I should. I would totally do that if you had Pilates and Trader Joe's. And then I would totally move there and a chiropractor and um a target and a Pilates and a Trader Joe's and a chiropractor in physical therapy. And then they're like, it's just so much to tell you. The last thing I'll share, it's like they're so beautiful and they're elegant and they don't have wrinkles and they don't have any blemishes. And I said to the women, like, what do you use on your skin? And Lucy's sitting there, they're like, water. And Lucy's like, Do you want to tell them about your chemical peel, mommy? You know, like, what are we doing? My Instagram is filled with Lori Laughlin's plastic surgery, which by the way, we both know she looks good. So, how am I gonna live in both universes? I really did take some of my shopping addiction and put it to the side. I have a bad online shopping addiction. And I'm like, I don't need more stuff, like for real. I'm gonna try to like maybe they help me out a little in maybe they help me way more than I'll ever help them. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

Yeah, it's very, very challenging. I I still feel conflicted about it for sure at times. And I was I was really young, so I was 26 and and it was so you know, I certainly didn't grow up in a place that had a lot, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:44

But in comparison, like we had food on the table, and so for them to just eat with no silverware, and you know, we made them a meal. My friend made them like a special meal, and they were super grateful. And I I don't know, man. I just don't want to ever come across to them like we're better or we have more. And you know, this friend of mine said to me, This girl, she's my my my new sponsor family, she's like, You're rich. And I'm like, yeah, like I totally am, but I'm like, I still have to work, and she didn't even understand concept that because I already have so much, so I could just live the rest of like with my stuff. And little does she understand that I'm in like this crazy real estate lawsuit, as you know, and my lawyer's calling me in the middle of Africa, going, You have to come up with more lawyer fees for a fraudulent real estate transaction that I never made, and I'm freaking out, and she doesn't have dinner. And I can't tell her about that because on that plane, but we can still have a lot of commonalities, like the adult women are walking around in their cute high heels in the African mud, you know, and I'm like, Slay, Sandra, you look amazing. And um, they watch Disney Channel, you know, and they They eat literal bugs for dinner. They were eating caterpillars. It's just so I think my best thing I can do, Susie, is like keep going back. I mean, just for me, if I can afford it, to try to go back as often as I can because I get way more than they're even. Yeah, we brought them school supplies and all that stuff, but I just walked away going, man, like they just they don't know what they're giving these us Americans and Canadians, and they don't understand that we're we're changed, they're not changed because of us, we're changed because of them. But it's just so short-lived unless we make efforts to do something about it. You know what I mean? Like, don't make them a kid on the fridge. Like, I don't want to, I don't want a magnet kid. I want a kid that I have a relationship with. So I'll say it again. If you do one of these companies and you want to get involved and you sponsor a kid, make sure you sponsor a kid that you can have a relationship and watch them grow up. And these kids want to be doctors and scientists. And I saw the college and it's beautiful, and they're gonna get to live there. But you know what they don't have when they live there? They don't have a lot of clothes. You know, we're like delivering clothes to them. Uh, they don't have a laptop, so it's just like I still even haven't processed it all. But then I 24 hours was in Paris, and they were happy for me. Like, she's like, Oh my gosh, I'm so you look great. And I'm like, Oh yeah, that picture is totally retouched with a filter, but thank you so much. Like, you know, I can't even like I can't even post a regular filter. I'm like, take my acne away. But um, so it was an interesting experience, and I wanted to hear more about like what you thought about your mission experiences. Are you gonna make are you gonna hope that your kids do something like that?

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Totally. I would love to, I really want to expose them to other countries and other places and and other cultures to me, that's also important, and not to like like there are cultures that eat bugs because that is part of their culture, right? There are cultures that don't use utensils, utensils because that is also part of their culture, right? So it's it is and then sometimes it's poverty. Like the I think um I want to take them at specific ages where I think like Lucy's a great age to take. A great age to take. So, but I would desperately like my kids to see the world and to know that America is not the only thing that exists, that United States is not the only thing that exists. It's not, it's not um how do I say it? Um, I think there can kind of like there is value in the whole world because the whole world is filled with people. I mean places, and and the beauty of God's creativity in somewhere like Uganda was completely different than I had ever seen growing up in LA or living in New York City or growing up in Orange County, right? I'd never seen anything like that. And so I I want my kids to be exposed to that and their world to become bigger, not just in a social media way.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Well, on social media, if they said, you know, there was a plane crash yesterday in Canada, right? Now, immediately I know people in Canada, so I have a connection, like my heart beats. But if they said, truthfully, honestly, there is an earthquake in Uganda, it's a different guttural reaction because I've never been to Uganda. And so I think we just get blind to the catastrophes that are happening, the wars that are happening. Zambia is a peaceful country, but I don't want to like scroll by something. Oh, there's a tsunami in Zambia, and I don't have any feelings about it because all I care about is my nucleus. And what I want to encourage you, when you go on a trip with your kids, make sure it's the kind of trip where they filter in time that you actually get to establish social time. We had social interaction with the women and the women, the moms, like they were all. Uh, I told you that story how my friend was uh my friend who's a couple generations ahead of me in America was like, Well, we do this thing called Purity Ring, and the girls are pure before marriage, and they were this ring, and my 18-year-old's like, uh, not so much, not really, nope. Sorry, don't do that. Uh, not the purity thing, but the ring. And and then I was like, I'm a single mom. Where are my single mom's at? And so it was just like funny. They wanted to know about being a single mom and like all those things. But uh, I this was the first mission trip where I felt like I made real friends. And I don't know if every trip does that. By the way, you do have to do manual labor. And the way to get out of that, okay, the way to get out of that is don't bring the work gloves. I didn't bring the work gloves, and then I had to lift cement. But then I was like, isn't this toxic? So they I couldn't lift the cement anymore. And then what you need to do is you need to be the flashlight girl. You need to bring your cell phone into the dark cave where they're building. And I said to Simba Ciso, I will hold the light for you. And then I just became the flashlight girl. So I'm giving you guys hacks of how to get out of lifting bricks because the other women on my trip were clearly lifting bricks. And I was like, not today, Satan. Um, but uh it was so great. I could talk on it, but I, you know, I I think our listeners, I want to hear from our listeners like, what have you guys done if you're a parent? How have you embraced that with your kids? I'm definitely gonna bring Ruby uh next time. I really and like Lucy's gone through a lot and she's starting college next year. And I said, I really hope you do, and I will financially do what I can to fundraise that you should go and clear your head because this world is messy. And let me just tell you something, Susie. These kids are not dealing with the mental anguish in the same way that American kids are dealing with it. They probably still have the same. But when I said, Do you guys have depression? They were like, uh, yeah, no. And I'm talking to an assault victim. I'm talking to an assault victim who got assaulted and is now raising the baby as her own. And when I said, Do you have depression? I almost felt like she was like, Yeah, no time. And they sing like in the most beautiful way, they pray in the most beautiful way, they dance in the most beautiful way, and then they just get up and do it all again, and they've got dreams and they've got hopes, but they're not taking a mental health break. I don't think they can. I don't think it's a it's even an option for them. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 28:34

Yeah, I mean, and also lots of how how do I say this? Like um, a lot of times people don't take a mental health break or don't because it it's a it's a luxury too. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Like, and I think that with me raising a Gen X kid, raising a Gen Z kid who's who's you know, dealt with things and she's been public enough to say that I won't go into detail. I had to get out of my comfort zone and stop telling her to walk it off because you know, for the first couple times, I was like, you're fine, walk it off. And so the people that I was with were boomers, and they were like, Well, we didn't have anxiety kids in high school. We didn't have I was like, You probably did, you just didn't know what to call it, but these kids don't even have the option to stop and deal. Like, they're so in Zambia culture, if you are physically raped, it is cultural that you will that man's in jail that assaulted her, but that she's raising her son, like that's her son. Now in America, maybe not, you know what I mean? Like, maybe there's other options, but she doesn't have other options. There's no like adoption service that's gonna come take that baby or you know, other things. So, and by the way, the baby's beautiful and he's lovely, and she's 18 with a two-year-old, and she's still gonna try to go to college and do all those things. But like, I was just I wanted to say so many things to her, but I stopped myself because I would just sound so cliche. Like, you're amazing and you inspire me. I just talked to her about movies and you know, life and uh the Disney shows that they watch and the fact that they don't know who Taylor Swift is. And I'm like, it's such a gift, you don't need to, uh, you know. So it was great. That's all I can say about it. And I, you know, I'm glad I got to share on this episode. And um, I hope I get to do it again. So keep me in check.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Um, sure. I'm like so taken. There's so many things to say. We should do a part two about this. Um, yeah. I will say, like wrap it up for me. Wrap it up. What is it like your experience and like how do you keep it changing you and how do you actually have it change your lifestyle and the way you think? And it is what I think it's totally gonna make me cry. It's that reminder that Christ says, you know, when you give a glass of water, you're giving it to me. That whole thing that Christ talked about isn't really about him, it is about us as believers being in the mindset of our job is to continuously share the love and the radiance of God with people. And it's like there's also that verse that says, if you say you'll pray for one, but you don't give them a cloak, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 31:18

We're not going there to score points to get in heaven. And I think I was originally, I think I was like, well, like, check it off my list. And I didn't think about that verse.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

So thank you for sharing that with me because it didn't even it's really the outpouring of what does what is sanctification, right? Is becoming more like Christ, and then that the outpouring of who Jesus is and who he walked with and how he lived is that is what continuously changed. And the reminder is that you know, there's no partiality in Christ, everyone carries the same value, right?

SPEAKER_02 31:52

And the fact is that we're so striving for value in America and we're still striving for beauty, and these women and men exist in it. Like you would look at these women and go, you need to be on the magazine cover, you need to be on the beauty, they are the beauty standard, right? By who they are, and do nothing else but loving Christ and living their lives and living, and we're just like he'll pluck, plump, fill, I to get my worst, and they just like exude it. They just like exude it.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

And I think that is a one of the things that I think is also so challenging, particularly in America. We are such a consumer and a status-driven culture, and that has nothing to do with God. It's not that we shouldn't have hopes and dreams and strive for things, absolutely, but we also have to do it in a way that is like how Jesus would.

unknown 32:56

You know what?

SPEAKER_00 32:57

You look like R2 D2, but isn't it R2 D2?

SPEAKER_01 33:00

I've never seen the movie, but the Disneyland Ride. Yeah, but you know what this is?

SPEAKER_00 33:05

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Oh my gosh, how do you not know about the red light? It's the red light mask. There are so many different kinds. Susie, I'm gonna be a better Christian. I've never used this yet. It's been sitting on the desk because I have undiagnosed ADHD. Uh so basically you put this sucker on, and my Africa friends are gonna lose their mind. They're like, you love. Okay, so apparently, this is the fountain of youth, and Bethany Frankel uses this. And um, you put it on your face and you get younger, and you wake up younger, and you wake up happier, and you wake up better, and you have better skin. And I don't know what else it does, but it helps me not get cancer again. Apparently, red light is good, and so I'm supposed to wear this at night. I have not done it. So this is my plug. This is my beauty product of the week. It's the R2D2 red light therapy mask uh that Carrie got on Amazon uh because she's super changed and she went to Africa and is not being at all. Okay, so that's my plug. What is yours?

SPEAKER_01 34:10

So um I have you seen these? I have one. Yeah, you do this.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

You do it because I have a lymphotic limp. They can't see you. What do you have? A brush, yeah. The listeners can't see you. I had a mask and it's red light therapy.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

Yes, it's like a it's like a half moon shaped.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

Yep, yep. It's a brush therapy.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

It's a brush for your face that's supposed to like I okay. It's they say it has something with a lymphatic system, but really I'm using it to lift you're not supposed to go up and down, girl. You can't go up and down, you gotta go up, up, up. Honestly, I will say, well, you're supposed to go up and down right here. I thought okay, we're gonna make some tutorial for the YouTubers. Nothing aged me more than my first marriage, and so I am I will first marriage and two teenagers.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

So um I I I prematurely aged for sure, and I'm just kind of fighting that. It wasn't also cigarettes, it was the ex-husband, god forbid, right?

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Uh cigarettes. Joy. They're not doing it. Don't do it. Carolyn Bassette is Carolyn Bassette is bringing it back. Watch love story. Okay, so how do you do the brush? You take it on your cheeks and you brush up, and then you brush down.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

I didn't want to brush down, so I don't want to okay you do up and down on the la on these lines here. Does anyone know what they're called? Okay, so they're called my nose.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Labular labular folds. Yes, that's the one the labular folds up and down that, okay, and then you just go up and then everything is up. And then you put the Star Wars mask on, and then you wake up and you don't have any problems anymore. That's obviously uh, and what is the update on the slim cream? Because I think we're on week three of the slim cream.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Oh my gosh, I keep forgetting to put it on because it burns. Like, it's not that it burns me. I'm not worried about my burn, but like I have little kiddos, and you know, oh, my three-year-old, she said the cutest thing, and they rub my tummy. She said the cutest thing to me. She goes, Your tummy's like play-doh.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

Wonderful. God bless America. Thank you. Um that's you tried a slimming cream, you paid money for a slimming cream. It is yet to slim, but it is burned. So praise the Lord. We are beauty influencers, obviously, because look at us, these things are completely changing our lives. And there's a big reveal next episode about a big product that you finally bought. We're not gonna tell you what it is. You have to tune in next week for the big product that Susie doesn't have, but next week you will, right? I do. I actually have it and have it and I love it. Okay, say love it. Okay, so this is such a great way to end my selflessness in Africa with my facial brush and my mask. By the way, I bought the girls in Africa facial products. I literally went to the store and I'm like, this is a map, like, we don't need it, we're perfect, but I gave them like soaps and all this stuff. Okay, so thank you for tuning into our ridiculousness. And once again, we love you and we might get in trouble for this. But make sure you follow us on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook and YouTube and all the podcast places and send us in the products that you want us to influence about because we're super open to getting better and younger, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:45

Always. What is it? It's something restores our youth.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

What nothing? We don't know yet. We'll figure out.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

I mean, it's in the Bible. There's something. I think it's about God.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Next week, we will use Bible verses to defend our beauty.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Okay, bye, everybody. Bye.