Did Kerri’s Mom Go to Vietnam to Meet Boys?

This episode starts light—antibiotics, diet culture, and a very questionable Fen-Phen story—but quickly turns into something much deeper.

Kerri is joined by her mom, Barbara Pomarolli, who shares her extraordinary experience serving as a Red Cross worker on a Navy hospital ship during the Vietnam War. At just 24, she was one of only two women selected for the role.

From caring for wounded soldiers and writing their final letters home, to navigating life in an active war zone, Barbara’s story is equal parts heartbreaking, inspiring, and unforgettable—with a few unexpected moments of humor along the way.

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⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Intro + near-death stories & antibiotics nostalgia
01:30 – Diet culture throwbacks (SlimFast, Dexatrim)
02:30 – KERRI’s Fen-Phen story + LA pressure
03:30 – Cancer scare update & “celebrating being alive”

04:20 – Introducing Barbara Pomeroli
05:00 – Chosen for Vietnam (Red Cross)
07:00 – Decision to go + family reactions

09:30 – Arrival in Vietnam + first impressions
12:30 – Life on the USS Repose

15:00 – Role on the ship + helping patients
17:00 – Writing letters for wounded soldiers
19:00 – Death, loss & final letters

20:30 – Burn unit realities + emotional toll
22:00 – Comforting soldiers + human connection

24:00 – Daily life + entertainment shows
26:30 – Faith & church on the ship

29:00 – Returning home during anti-war protests
31:00 – Long-term health effects

33:00 – Legacy, veterans & reflection

34:30 – “We Don’t Hate It” (skincare segment)
36:00 – Wrap-up & where to follow

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:06

And welcome to another episode of We Might Get in Trouble for This. And since we've had a few episodes so far, I think we should change the name to We Will Definitely Get in Trouble for This. But we're not quitting because I love it so much. Uh so welcome back to our podcast. And um, Susie, you almost died. We both almost died last week in our own special way. So you can go first.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Oh, I mean, I just kept getting sick, lots of antibiotics. I literally had to do another antibiotic and then loads more, and I'm very swollen. So that's not great. And you know how they say you should do probiotics with antibiotics, right? I did tell you that. Yes, you did. But I've been because I was born in 1981, I have been in antibiotics like at least two, three times my whole entire life. So I feel like it's like Yes. Oh my gosh. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 0:56

We got antibiotics and a lollipop every time we went to the pediatrician in like the early 80s, 70s. Oh, every time you got a lollipop and amoxicillin. Like I think it's two, three times a year. I was on antibiotics.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

My mom was always on a diet, so I did not get the lollipop version. I might have got my antibiotics with some wheat thins.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Wait, did you ever do slim fast? Did your mom do slim fast?

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Um, yes, but I also did slim fast.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

Okay, so there's a comedian, and I want to give her credit for this, Leanne Morgan. She talked about how her mom and her and her grandma all did Slimfast and Dexatrim before they realized it was speed. So they were all cracked out in her front yard on Slim Fast and Dexatrim. And you know, when I listen to that, I think it sounds delightful. Like I was like, I would do it. But you're like, why do I have so much energy? Do you remember Fanfin? Oh, oh, I have a fanfed story. And I know we have to get this. If you're listening to this podcast, we're gonna get to the main event in two seconds, but this is so important. I moved to Los Angeles, picture it 1998, picture it. I go in to the doctor. It's my checkup, it's my, you know, I weigh. Are you ready? 116. 116. And they said, is there anything about yourself that you'd like to improve? And I was like, I don't think so. And I they wrote my weight down and they were like, Well, obviously, you have a weight problem because I'm an actor in LA. And she, I kid you not, she gave me fen fen. She gave me fen fen because I weighed 116 and I started taking it. And if I hadn't seen Jesus before, I saw Jesus and all the disciples. I was out of my loony mind. Thank God I only stayed on it for like four days. I don't even know why I was taking it. She was like, this will just help you be a better actor. I don't even know if they said it was weight loss, but they gave me fenfan, no joke. And I really worked.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

It really worked for people. People got really skinny and then they also had heart attacks. Well, I mean, six seven, it out. Wait, and then Olestra came out and everyone picked their pants.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

Remember, Olestra and the Snackwells Cookies Girls. That was the long car rides home from Trader Joe's. Yep. There's no doubt. But I almost beat death. Well, I did beat death because uh listeners probably know I'm a cancer survivor. And then I had some symptoms, and my doctor had to do some more tests to see if there was another kind of cancer. And thankfully it was not. So, in celebration of me not having cancer, I've been eating enough sugar to give me cancer at my mom's house in Georgia. Uh, I feel like if I'm alive, I should eat seven canberry eggs a day because that was always in my Insta basket. Uh they're not good. Oh, they're so good. Wait, if you're gonna cheat and eat chocolate, what are you gonna eat? You, Susie. I love Canberry Eggs. I was raised on cheap cannabis. Yeah, okay, you're bougie.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

Uh-huh. Yeah, but otherwise, no. Otherwise, there are protein bars that have uh no carbs and are high in protein and taste just as good as the Snickers. I can't even like what would be the point.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

Okay, so you're bougie now, but you were way not bougie. So you just come over to your bougie stuff.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

I'm still not bougie. I still, if I do not like to buy a clothing item that's more than an El Pollo Loco value meal.

SPEAKER_03 4:14

All right, maybe, all right, maybe you stop at Target. I'll give you credit.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

I do, yeah. Well, now I'm upset with them. I'm upset with Target.

SPEAKER_03 4:21

So yeah, there's a whole thing, and I wear your Target hand me guns. But we have a great episode today, and I'm really excited about it because I am in the great state of Georgia and I am with my mother, Barbara Pomeroli, who is our guest today. And we're gonna talk to her because there's a lot of things that we could talk about with my mother, but that's just too many podcasts. What we're gonna focus on today, Susie, is my mother, author of Seas of War, the book, uh, The Diary of a Red Cross Worker in Vietnam, because this little lady from the great state of Alabama went to Vietnam and served her country on a war hospital ship called the USS Repose for 18 months, 13 months, very long. And we're gonna talk about what that experience was like because that is cuckoo crazy in honor of the draft um being an automatic thing now. Yeah, it's an automatic. I know you're gonna raise your son as Kabbalah, he'll get out of it. Okay. Well, welcome to the podcast, mom. Uh, we're so honored to have you. And your book, Seas of War, The Diary of a Red Cross Worker, is something uh that you wrote about your experience in Vietnam. And you were 24 years old and you had never left the South, and you joined the Red Cross. And what you told me last night, mom, was that you were only one of two Red Cross women in the whole Red Cross that was chosen to go on this warship. And what made you decide to do that? Because I I would be like, heck no, I'm not going.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

Well, let me explain, uh clarify something. It was a Navy hospital ship, the UN USS Repose. And um I was working for the Red Cross in military hospitals for the past three years, and I was stationed at the time in Pensacola Naval Base, where I had met your father. And um we had planned to be married, he'd gotten out of the Navy. So this would be uh October 1966. I got a call from uh the headquarters of the Red Cross, just out of the blue, saying, um, we I have have something I want to discuss with you. Would you consider going to Vietnam and serving on a hospital ship? And she said you'd be one of two Red Cross women out of the whole United States that were picked for this uh elite job. And would you consider going? I will give you two days to think about it.

SPEAKER_03 7:04

And to this day, you have no idea why they picked you, and I do because you were so cute and they saw your picture, and they were like, these 800 men need something nice to look at. That's what I'm guessing. I know you're smart too, but they never told you why they picked you, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:19

No, they didn't. You said last night that they had chosen, they called a hundred other women, and then they called me, and that could be true. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 7:29

They called everyone, and they're like, We have chosen you. Say yes. But uh, so did you take two days to think it over? Did you call my dad? Like, what'd you do?

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Oh, the first uh call I made was to your dad. Uh, and I said told him what they had asked, and he uh we talked for a long time, and he's he was uh at the time working at Ford Motor Company in Detroit, and um he was also a psychologist, so he thought things through and he said this would be an opportunity that many most people would not ever get, and maybe it would be a good thing for you to take it, since we're not gonna get married right away anyway. And uh he said, think it over, but I think it would be uh a wonderful experience that you might regret if you turned it down. So then I called my parents, and uh my parents were always supportive of everything I did, but I knew they wouldn't be supportive of me going to Vietnam. My dad was um not quite as upset as my mom. My mom was very upset. She said, You can't go to a war zone. And uh I said, I just told her what they told me, you know, about what an experience it would be. And so I talked to them while hung up the phone and uh called them the next day and they said, Well, we've always supported everything you've wanted to do, and if this is something that you feel like you should do, then we'll we'll be behind you. So they did. And how many men were on the ship? It was a 500 to 750 bed hospital. It was the size of a football field.

SPEAKER_03 9:27

So there and then there's like a hundred or two hundred crewmen.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

There were two hundred crewmen, there were 30 die cross. I was a recreation supervisor, she was a social worker, and so there's 32-ish women and like 600 men.

SPEAKER_03 9:44

I'm starting to get the picture of how that could be appealing.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

It was over 600, eight, eight or nine hundred men. Yeah, to get the picture.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

Well, Suze, you can ask her anything you want. I know why she went, no.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Yeah. It's clear. Um, this is amazing to me.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

What? Go ahead. I just said I already had a man, so uh I I wasn't looking for a man. No one could understand once I got to the ship and got to know people, and I said, Um, I'm going to be married when I get home. No one believed me because trust me, those 30 nurses and the other Red Cross worker were um when we got to into a port and could go out to a place, they were going out with men, but I wasn't. So they never understood my situation. But that's what it was.

SPEAKER_00 10:47

For sure. Um so I thought it's so fascinating because you were only 24 years old. How how long beforehand had you met your husband? Who would yet to be your husband? I would say nine months.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

Okay. And they used to send tape recorded messages, real to real tape-recorded messages. It's so letters, written letters. And it was so romantic. And in the book, she wrote this book based on some of her correspondence with my dad. And she told me, mom, that you only talked to your parents in 13 months three times.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Right.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

So, how many times did you talk to dad in 13 months?

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Uh, I think I talked to him probably three times too. When we were in a port, sometimes I could use a phone. Uh, so probably three times.

SPEAKER_03 11:40

And there's so much that you went through in those 13 months.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

I wasn't the thing was it was before, and excuse my voice, I've got allergies, but um, it was before we had emails or computers, or we only got mail probably every three weeks. And when we got mail, I would have a day and every day. Every day for 13 months. Sorry, they sent the tapes. And uh we had the the mail guys that delivered the mail to the ship would say, Um, you really you must have somebody that loves you in Michigan, because you get a lot of letters from Michigan every time we get mail, but we'd have to wait sometimes a month, and then you'd get 30 letters, so you know it'd take a long time to go through and read them. But the same thing was happening for dad, because they couldn't pick up my letters or tapes and and to send to him until you know they brought ours out, so that was and so you were already working at a naval hospital, correct?

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Okay, and and you had studied so your profession was a nurse, correct? Oh, Red Cross worker. Red Cross worker, okay. And then and then you had been working at the Navy hospital. So getting on the boat, like can you tell me a little bit of the kind of culture shock or extremity? Did you feel nervous, claustrophobic? Did you feel excited, scared? What was I'm sure at Evden flowed?

SPEAKER_02 13:18

We landed in Saigon. The ship was uh at the northern part of South Vietnam as far as the troops could go, and we spend uh five days in Saigon trying to find the ship so they could fly us up to the to the ship. So we spent five days. Uh it was kind of interesting but scary being in Saigon because it was, you know, the height of the height of the war. And uh then after I think about seven days, they flew us up to Denang, which was a uh one of the cities that was almost to the demil drive zone, which was the northernmost part of uh Vietnam. So they they flew us up to this uh out Marine outpost, and no women had ever been up that far north, and we were on a uh plane carrying soldiers up up there, the carrying the Marines. And we had to sit in the back of this plane on a rope seat with uh, I would say 200 Marines with all their gear and stuff, and it was not air conditioned, so it was it was a terrible ride up there, but we did make it. So it took them a whole day for them to, we could they could uh talk to the ship, but they had to wait until they had a helicopter that could fly us out there because they were in the middle of battles, you know, we could see fires, the the smoke, the bombs falling, and all that stuff. And uh they finally found a helicopter to uh take Fran and me and one other nurse that was going out there. And I had never, of course, been in a helicopter. This was very scary. Have you ever seen a picture of uh uh Chinook helicopter? It's the big one they have uh the soldiers in each door with guns. So they flew us out to the helicopter and we could see it from the air, and it was just beautiful, this white ship sitting out in the middle of the ocean. Uh I think it was it was scary landing on the end of this this ship in this helicopter. But we were so happy to be there to be after the week we've had we had had in Vietnam that uh we were just thrilled to get out. And you know, the ship was beautiful. They we were met by the hospital had a commander captain, and the ship had a captain, so they had two different crews. There was a a crew for the hospital, and then there was a crew that ran the ship. And we were we didn't know we were under the auspice of the the hospital, but nobody really knew what to do with us because we were military. We didn't no one had ever taught us how to salute or do anything military. And when you were on the ship, we had to stand at all the drills that the nurses did. So we had to salute the captain and all that stuff, and they just kind of laughed at us because we didn't know what we were doing. So basically, what I did was I met every patient that I could who was brought to the ship, and it could have been a hundred a day at some point, but we had little bags of goodies to give to them, shaving gear and shampoo and all that stuff. So I would pass those out and meet them. And I spent a lot of my time writing letters for the patients who could not.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

Can I ask you a question about that? Because it was in your book. You were dealing with amputees and you were dealing with wounded soldiers. Sometimes you write they didn't know that they were an amputee, and they would want you to write about I'm gonna dance with my sweetheart or whatever. Was it ever your job? Whose job was it to tell them eventually?

SPEAKER_02 17:32

Or did you know uh they knew it, they just didn't want to tell their families, so they didn't want to write about it. So they would write. I never had anybody of all the hundreds of letters I wrote of the tapes I I sent. Um I can't remember anybody ever say complaining. These were young Marines, like 18, 19, 20 years old for the most part. We did have some older, but most of them they were very young. And uh they did not want to tell their families how bad they were hurt.

SPEAKER_03 18:10

And so they just would, you know, make up stories or just And did you um did you have patients that passed away, like on the boat?

SPEAKER_02 18:21

We did. And the sad thing was I I had at least three uh that I wrote a letter for them and they died that day. So that the the letter that I wrote for them was the last communication they had with their families. So those those were really really and what would happen to the bodies? Did you have them morgue on the ship? Oh, they would uh fly them to Japan. We we they would take them back to site to uh Vietnam and then uh fly them to Japan and then home.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

So And would you say, like, was that the most difficult thing that you did while you were on what was your most difficult?

SPEAKER_02 19:06

Yeah, the most difficult thing was the ICU uh ward where the patients were the burn patients were the most horrible. Their bodies were sometimes just burned all over, and uh it took them some time to get them stabilized to send, you know, to Japan, to a hospital. So uh I had to write many letters for those guys who were just wrapped in bandages from head to toe, but they could still talk. And they could still see most of them, some of them couldn't see, some of them most of them could see me. And so um what they wanted to do, and I did as much as I could, they wanted me to come back and talk to them. So uh I would try to do that, you know. With when you have 500 patients and uh most of them want something or need something, and it's just fran. There were only two of us. Of course, the nurses were really good too, but they were taking care of their wounds and whatever. We were trying to cheer them up and uh, you know, just talk to them. Some of them, many of them, uh the ones that were not quite as badly wounded, uh, the things they would say was, it's just so nice to see a blind. But are you the first female I've seen in nine months or you know, something like that? Please come in. I love to hear your accent. Would you please come in and just talk to me? And so I did, you know, a lot of that. I played a lot of games. We had games that we played, you know, like checkers and um dominoes and car board games and that that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

And now, do you know what this is, Susie? Do you know what this is reminding me of? What movie? The notebook. The notebook. Oh, yes. I think I'm asked. No, Rachel McAdams meets James Marsden and he's all bandaged up, and then he turns out to be this gorgeous southern senator later. Uh it's funny that James Marsden didn't have any scars from the war, like when he got all he was flawless, but they were emotional. So they were just inside. Mom, and you did have some funny moments on the ship. Do you want to share some of the more like like the Buddha belly thing where you had to put your face in that guy's stomach? When anytime a Navy ship crosses the equator, yes, Susie.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

Ceremony that the the crew members who have not crossed the equator have to go through. And the crew members who've crossed the equator get to do the ceremony. And if they are enlisted men, they get to do about Whatever they can to the officers and the women, they love doing that. Um, but the uh the crew members uh they lined up down on the the deck where the helicopters were, and um they put this off, they they took the fattest guy in the group, and we did have a couple really fat navy guys, and so they put this muddy stuff in their stomach, all over their stomach, and then we had to get on our knees, and they would push our face into that stuff, whatever it was, I don't know. Um then after we did that, they had this long hose that was filled with garbage, had to crawl through that garbage it to a thing of water to sort of get some of that stuff off. But uh, and then we did a couple of other things that weren't hard, and then we could go take a shower and come back. And we had to walk down this uh, these guys didn't they had belts, they didn't really hit us, but uh we had to walk down this line of uh the Navy guys with their belts, you know, because but they probably did hit the officers, I don't know, because they this was the only day that the enlisted men could do what they wanted. But they would take advantage of that one, right? After we crossed, we were you could the shellbacks were the ones that had crossed, so then we got the certificate for the shellbacks. Uh so I have my certificate frame for doing that because it it was it wasn't funny at the time, it was kind of hard to do, but can you tell me a little bit about your schedule?

SPEAKER_00 23:50

So were you then were you waking up like with the military guys really early in the morning? Did you have to do the drills? What was kind of your day-to-day?

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Have to do any military stuff except when they about once a month they would have uh drills where uh the we all the officers had to stand out on the the deck and have inspection by the captain and the executive orders. And so we had to stand, we we had dress uniforms too. So we had to stand out there nurses, but like I said, we didn't know how to salute or anything do like that, so uh they would say just do the best you can, and we just put our hand up there. The other thing is when we were in port, and I'll tell you, uh, we we got to go to the Philippines, I think four times, which was not after you've been there once, you didn't really want to go back, but it was a way to get off the ship. We went to um Hong Kong and we went to Singapore, which were two trips. But when the ship was uh docked, anytime you went off the ship, you walked back up this tall ladder, and there was uh an officer standing on on guard at the top of the ladder, and you had to salute to get back on the ship. So we had to do some kind of salute. Uh I can't remember. They laughed at us all the time anyway. Uh but we were Fran and I were um unique in that we answered to nobody. I mean, we we weren't in the military. Captain of the hospital was kind of our uh I guess our uh boss, but he never told us anything to do. He said, You're you're doing great. Two uh entertainment shows, and the crew members to dress up like in their tattoos and do dances, and we had a lot of talent, so we they would perform uh songs and dances, and the nurses sang, and we wrote songs and sang. And um the first one we did, the captain of the ship wrote us a letter and he said, I've been to a lot of Broadway shows, and I've never been entertained like I was with this. It was wonderful, and so that's what everybody said, and then after that, they wanted to do another one. It was a lot of work, Fran and I had to make uh sets for the stage, and we we had to do everything.

SPEAKER_03 26:41

I mean, we got volunteers to help us, but we had to do all that, and um mom, there's so much that you went through, and I could talk, we don't have a lot more time, but I do want to ask because you went you were always you were raised in a Christian home. I know that was part of your journey. Did you have like faith encounters while you were on the boat? Did you have prayer time? Was there chapel? Like, did your faith play into this journey that you were on? Did you ever see the soldiers praying?

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Like we had two chaplains. We had a uh Catholic chaplain and a Protestant chaplain, and we had a chapel, and we had church every Sunday, and the and I went to the Protestant service, and then we we formed a choir and believed. I was in the choir, Carrie, that sang in the choir. We had robes, they ordered robes for us to to wear.

SPEAKER_04 27:38

It's very holy.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

We had our chapel out on the the back of the ship, which was well actually the middle of the ship had a a deck that was open and it was hot. Oh, it was so hot. Uh and then finally they gave us uh uh one of the patients' rooms uh that we could use when there wasn't a patient. There's a lot of times we could have it inside where it was air conditioned, but uh I a lot the patients uh did come to the uh serve. I mean, they could come if they wanted to, the ones who could walk. Uh I don't know that um I don't remember really uh and I could have done it and I don't remember praying specifically with we were not supposed to do that. We were not supposed to talk about religion to anybody, so I I probably did not do that, but but we did have church, two churches, and we had services every Sunday, so uh you know I was able to go to church and participate in that, and the chaplains were very much part of what Fran and I did because they were there also to help the patients, and that's what we were supposed to be doing too. So I got to know the chaplains real well.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Well, I'm gonna let Susie ask you uh one more question and then we'll wrap it up.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Yeah, I I this is kind of a unique question, but as as you, you know, so you come home, right? I'm sure that was was it a transition to be back home, or were you just so grateful to be home?

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Um I was happy to be home. The thing that um really hurt uh at the time, it was during the time of all the anti-marches and whatever, and the soldiers that came back through the airport got things thrown at them and yelled at them, and we actually looked like we were in the military because we had on our our uniforms were like the nurses' uniforms. Uh and so we really were afraid coming back through San Francisco. Uh no one ever said anything to me or threw anything at me, but uh that was the the hardest thing about being home was seeing how how the American people were treating the soldiers, and they did that for years, and these soldiers didn't want to be there, they were drafted. It wasn't their war. They didn't have a choice, they had to go. And why in the world could American people treat them like they did? And I honestly believe that's the reason that we have so till still today, uh, maybe not Vietnam uh veterans, but had so many homeless veterans because they just and honestly, I had so much to I had to work here for four months at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, but Dick and I were planning our our wedding during that time, so I had something happy to focus on, and I was I we were asked to make speeches. I'm uh speeching that was not my thing, but I did a few of those. But I did work in a hospital here before we got married, but um I think that kept me from uh really feeling what the other these servicemen were feeling and you know what was happening to them. I and honestly, it was in the I think the 1990s when uh kind of a turnaround happened with the Vietnam veterans, people started recognizing their sacrifices, and they put up uh a woman's Vietnam Memorial in Washington, DC, and I was able to be a part of that and they had the wall.

SPEAKER_03 31:45

So song whose song was at the Women's Vietnam Memorial?

SPEAKER_02 31:49

No, it wasn't at that one, but it was a uh Dick wrote a song about me. Uh We Cried Together at the Wall.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

And it's on YouTube. He wrote a song for my mom and it's on YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

Yes. And and they did sing it at a lot of veterans. Yeah. But mom, would you do it again? Hold on, sorry. I I feel like as I got older, um I didn't have uh I don't know. I felt it and I even feel it more now, uh like it it has affected I I've had a lot of health problems. Um we were exposed to Agent Orange and all those gases over there because the shit was wet out there where they were. And I've had 25 surgeries, major surgeries.

SPEAKER_03 32:44

You've had cancer three times. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

And so uh I I didn't dwell on the fact that I don't know that it was caused by aging orange. It the it the doctors think some of the things could have been. I took carriages and they thought maybe that was a part of that. But no one really knows. And since I was not in the military, I was not uh a part of um the benefits.

SPEAKER_03 33:12

You didn't get any benefits. They don't really think you guys the way that they think the military.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Well, uh, I think the the military people that were there, anytime I meet a military person now, they can't thank me enough. You know, I'm I have met several patients who were on the repose, uh, not necessarily when I was there, but a lot of people know about it. And uh they were so appreciative of uh of what we did. I mean, so I got a lot of we we are very grateful.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

Yeah, I'm grateful that you wrote the um thank you for your service. I raised my daughters to go with you and dad to the veterans' home, entertain the veterans, sing with the veterans, always think of veteran in the airport wherever we are. Um but uh thank you for for everything that you did. And uh I don't want to lighten the moment too much, but I would like you to participate in our ending segment if that would be okay with you. It's called it's called We Don't Hate It. Um, mom, we're so excited that you're gonna participate in the We Don't Hate It segment. And you have a special beauty product that you have brought on to show us. So lift up your beauty product and look, see you guys, look at that face. Look at that 83-year-old. Uh-huh. Don't see anybody so beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 34:49

This is called uh Tachi Dewy Skin Cream, and this is cream that the geishas used to use it.

SPEAKER_03 34:59

Geisha or geisha.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

I don't know how to pronounce that, but I think it's really beautiful uh cream, and you see, I don't have very much left. Where do you buy it, Barbara? Uh I actually buy it on QVC where I buy most of my things because I'm QVC.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

Tag them. QVC. And how has this changed your life, Barbara? Because you only have about a hundred jars of cream in your bathroom.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Well, this one I think has um made my skin smoother. And uh I won't say it tapes away the wrinkles, and not much does that, but um Botox does that, Barbara.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

By hand over, I promise you, if you put a needle in your face, they will smooth it out. I'm telling you for a friend, not that I would know, but I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

If I put Botox in my face, I would have an allergic reaction and I would be uh in the hospital. So I don't do Botox.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Might be worth it, might be worth it. You don't know. But mom, I don't think you need it. It's Tachi. How do you spell Tachi?

SPEAKER_01 36:01

T A C H H I T A E C H A. T A E C H A. T A T C H A.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

Okay, we will tag them. We'll put it in the show notes. Put it in the show notes, Mom, and you look beautiful. Uh Susie and I could take a lesson. We'll stop putting needles in our face and we'll buy the top cream. And not that you ever would, Susie. Not that I ever would. I don't have a lot of needles. I'll just do the needles and the cream. Look, I just want to prove that I don't. Because look, I, if you're watching on YouTube, there are wrinkles in this forehead. Oh wrong right now either. Okay, but yeah, I just want to prove. Here's what I think the Hollywood stars do. They get voice everywhere else and then they leave a little bit beforehand. So they have this like, I'm so natural, but it's all lies. But mom on your jaw. There's nowhere that I am not open. Uh but mom, thanks for being our guest today. Thanks to all our listeners. Make sure you follow us on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, all the networks, Amazon and Spotify and Apple and Woku. Um, and thanks to our producer Eric. We might get in trouble with this.