Survivor 50 Episode 3 "Did You Vote for a Swap?"

It's week three of Survivor 50, and Lucas is starting to get a lay of the land. He and his bestie Murjanatu discuss an early season tribe swap and all the fun that ensues! 

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

Welcome to Mist the Boat, a Survivor First Watch podcast.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Okay, okay. Well, your first time, Lucas. I'm a lifelong fan. I am Rajana too, one of your co-hosts, and your resident survivor super fan.

SPEAKER_03 0:13

And I'm Lucas, a survivor newbie.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

Each week I will guide my best friend here through Survivor as we react to the iconic season 50 together.

SPEAKER_03 0:23

This week, Survivor 50 episode 3. Did you vote for a swap? Let's dive in. So, Mirjana 2, I'm really excited to talk about this episode. You watched this episode in a slightly different setting than we've watched the first couple, isn't that right?

SPEAKER_00 0:41

That is correct. I went to a live watch party with Ozzie, hosted by Ozzie and Friend. There also a man named Sifu was there from I believe season 45, a 2023 season, and he brought his torch. And I actually got to touch and hold a survivor torch for the first time in my life. Oh my love, Survivor, but I've never actually met anyone. This is my first time, and I got to meet my main man, Ozzie. It was me.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

Oh my gosh. I didn't realize that you had never met a survivor before.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

Honestly, me either, because as we we, you know, we talk about drag race a lot. I've met a lot of drag queens. I've been in the room with many of my favorites from drag race, but I didn't realize while I was there, because everyone was swapping stories. And I was just like, I've actually never met, and I feel very happy I got to meet Ozzy. And I was with my dad and my husband and the two men who, you know, brought Survivor into my life and have like kept it going. So it was really fun. It was such an enjoyable night. And it made me understand, Lucas, like why people love sports.

SPEAKER_03 1:44

Right. I get it. I've been going to, as you know, I've been going to some more drag race watch parties, and I feel the same. I'm like, oh, this is what people talk about when they watch when they go to a sports bar.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Right. I know. I've and yeah, it was just so fun. And I felt like everyone felt similarly to how we do, but based on the boos and the cheers. Um it's fun because you're pretty much you and my husband are pretty much the only people I talked to about Survivor. You're brand new to the fandom. My husband's not on social media. I'm not on social media. So I was a little bit like, are these hot takes going out into the world? But it was good. People agreed. Good.

SPEAKER_03 2:21

Good. And so, how did you feel watching the episode in a group? And like, do you feel like you still were able to absorb everything that happened? And I also just want to know what your overall reactions to this week's episode were.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

Oh, yeah. So I first of all, you'd go there for the experience, not for the watching. I did watch it again the next day this morning. And I thought that was it was so fun to be with everyone. At one point, I actually just went up to Ozzy. He told us like it was his goal that night to talk to every single person there and just like have a beer with everyone. So I asked him if he wanted a drink, and he said, surprise me. And I got really scared. So I just brought him another one of his drinks. So I was not going for memorable, but I actually asked him when I was talking to him during the episode. I was like, Hey, have you seen this before? And he was like, I haven't. This is my first time watching it. Didn't know if they got pre-screeners.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

Yes. I've been wondering that.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Yeah. So he said it was his first time watching. And I was like, is it weird hearing what people say about you? And he was like, you get used to it. You know, after five seasons, you just realize you can't control anything. But I am always per it's always surprising your perception versus reality. Um, something to those lines. So that was interesting. So I just like it's so many people talk about him all of the time. I can't imagine what that's like, especially in a room full of people.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

That is interesting. I do that's probably a benefit of this season, is that these are all returning players. So they've probably gotten used to it. I do think it would be overwhelming for the majority of people, especially on their first time around, becoming a public figure overnight and to such a large fandom and audience.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Right. I mean, and some of these, I always just think about like people watching me work out. I'm like, they're in like soaking wet clothes, everything's clinging. Like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't want to see that in front of anyone. I just want to see in my own. But I want to know what everyone's seeing, you know? Yeah, so overall, I liked this episode. Um, I feel like not a ton happened that was like super shocking to me, but it was fun to be in this room of people that was like, I don't know, just a good time. And I really think it enhanced the experience. What about you? What did you think?

SPEAKER_03 4:36

I enjoyed it. I think I'm enjoying each episode more as I and I said this last week, as I know the people and there's less to learn. I think it's really interesting, and I don't have a sense even of how many episodes are gonna be in this season. I do think it's really interesting. It feels very early on to have a tribe swap and to immediately shake up all of the dynamics of these people working really hard on establishing good first impressions and establishing alliances. And we'll get into this. Like, I have so many questions around what happens now. This tribe swap did not look like I guessed a tribe swap might look like last week. And so really excited to get into it. This is a big wrinkle in the game as a whole, and I I left this episode feeling more satisfied than I think I have left the last two. So also when we get to the end, we'll we'll talk about that in more detail.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

All right, with that being said, let's talk about it. I want to hear all of your thoughts of this, your first ever tribe swap. It's kind of like this is kind of a big deal for you, I think. It's kind of like your first tribe swap, eventually you'll get to your first merge, and then your first final. Like, I feel like this is a big step in your survivor journey.

SPEAKER_03 5:57

Well, and it sounds like they don't happen every season. And so I'm curious to know like, is it pretty constant? They they talk about how it was voted as to whether or not you do win this season.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

They they have done them many. I I I don't know if I should say like every season, especially those early ones, but they happen pretty often. They do not usually happen this early in the season. I think that was a good gut feeling. And I think when we get there, that's why so many people were surprised. They were like, oh, it must be a reward. Like, we just got here. But as one of the things that we talked about last week is the last few seasons, a lot of the last few a lot of the last nine seasons, have had a disaster tribe. Meaning there's one tribe that is losing every single time. And sometimes they will get them those groups get so small before they do anything about it. I don't they I think that perhaps the producers have heard us just loud and clear. And it's fun to see our you know returning players meet other folks. So I think that's what happened here. Um, they were trying to kind of protect people from getting frustrated. Plus, I want to see all these people play together.

SPEAKER_03 7:08

Yeah, yeah. So before we actually get into them coming together, we do start the episode. I just I did have a couple notes on the very start of the episode, which is night six, because this is my actually what I thought was the bigger first for me was this is my first night vision. Like the kind of blue hued night vision recordings overnight. I just have not seen that before. I wrote down that it was definitely not my preferred viewing style, and I do feel like they, as production, probably don't want too much to be happening overnight. But when something happens that is notable, they of course have to show us. But I honestly don't even remember what happens that night, other than Christian saying again, someday my son is going to see this. Oh, it's because they're recapping like what they did, hiding the fake idol, and everybody's checking in with Christian and making sure he's okay, and he's like, I promise I'm okay. But in his confessional, he is like, This has never been done before. Someday my son is going to see this. We are now two out of three episodes on him saying someday his son is going to see this. So I'm gonna be keeping an eye out for how frequently, how many episodes Christian talks about his son watching this future season of Survivor?

SPEAKER_00 8:33

That's so funny. I know it's in it's such an interesting thing to keep your secret, but it's also your motivation. Like, it's uh like I I don't know. I don't know. I I wonder if he just doesn't want to be manipulated on it. So he's like, I'm not telling anyone about this, but it truly is his motivation, and I do think that's really sweet. One thing that I'm pretty sure I heard again, I was in a busy room, I've watched this twice, but I'm pretty sure I heard both times um that Devons, upon leaving, is talking about this heist they just put off, and he says, I feel like Frank Ocean. And the first time I just was like, Oh, yeah, from the Oceans movies. And then I was like, No, Frank Ocean is a singer. That was the one thing. I think he meant Danny Ocean from you know, George Clooney.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

Right, right. Because the first time I heard it, I thought of the singer and just had no clue what he was talking about. You saying it now, I thought, oh, is that George Clooney's name in the Oceans movies? But it's not.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Yeah, maybe he's just like, I'm super smooth, like from Ocean's tenor, but I'm pretty sure he meant any ocean movies.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

We do go from there into the title sequence, which was there a title sequence last episode? This felt new.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

Not the first two episodes. I believe this was the first time because I think they that first one, I believe they did, you know, that walkthrough that was really cool where they reround the clock. Yeah. So it was kind of the title sequence, but we didn't have characters' names. The second time, I believe I just thought, okay, they're not doing one this season, but then they showed it this season. It was so fun being there. A lot of people, everyone's cheering, of course, for Ozzy because he's in the room. But a lot, the other two who people were cheering for surprised me, it was Christian, got really loud whoops. Cerie, of course, but it felt more of a like acknowledgement. That one felt accurate to me. The the one that though surprised me the most was Genevieve. I think she might be the people's princess.

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Interesting. Okay, okay. Genevieve, I liked her this episode, so I'm I'm happy with that. But that kind of surprises me. Right? You know what else surprised me about the title sequence? And I don't know where I got this in my head. Like, I'm trying to think of another reality TV show to compare this to, where I got the idea that they would edit out the eliminated contestants. Like in my mind, it would shrink as you eliminate people each episode. So it was interesting seeing Kyle and Savannah and Jenna in the title sequence this episode because they're no longer around. But it's nice, I guess. It's a nice tribute to them that they still get to show up in the title sequence.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

I totally agree. I think, and as we get further, I think it will be even more special. And then even if like someone gets it kind of will remind you, like, oh yeah, like so-and-so played a part in this person getting out. I do believe though, it's gone both ways. I think that sometimes, like, this my memory serves accurately. I think most of the time it's everybody, but I think sometimes it like cuts down or at least at merge, it cuts and that might happen too. They might cut it in half.

SPEAKER_03 11:39

Interesting. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

The only other thing I like noted about before the tribe swap was that this whole idol situation, Christian's idol situation that he gave the idol to Aubrey, and he's telling Siri before I'm like, when did Siri get into this alliance? So he tells Siri before he tells Emily.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

Yeah. And they were really scheming their like, Devons, you pretend like you found the idol because you're the idol guy, it'll be more believable, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But they don't have a lot of food. I they're operating unlimited faculties. Um, but yeah, they're like, Suri's part of our alliance, but Ozzy isn't, even though it's clear that, like, at least to the viewers, that Siri and Ozzy are a package deal.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

Right. And they make so many decisions because those two are duos. It's strange, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Yeah. I did note that they when they go to tell Siree, Christian is acting for the gods. He's like so shocked, so taken aback at the news that Devin's found an idol.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

I know. It's just it all of the overacting. If someone smells that, like, it's gonna make everything seem false. And so they're not gonna trust you when you happen upon an idol, you know, at Triblette someday that you planted. Like, save the lying for the lies. Like, no need to complicate things and try to remember them that way. Like, why not bring Surian as a two? Like, I just think it's a weird thing to have to remember. Honestly, and too, if I'm Devons, I'm starting to feel a little suspicious. Why do we have to lie about this? Like, that's not what happened, and what's believable is what happened.

SPEAKER_03 13:26

I think it it is just overthinking everything and trying to, and to your point, the truth can just be the truth sometimes. You don't it's it's similar to how I felt after Exile Island. Q was making up this story about this challenge the next day with the coconuts, and I was like, why try to overcomplicate things? You're gonna get caught in a lie. I do think with Emily specifically, they wanted to tell her, but it shows us that they just couldn't get to her. Like she was always talking to somebody else, talking to Joe, talking to um other people on the tribe, which comes back to Bitus in a second. I do want to say I was noticing a lot of firsts. What was tree mail?

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Yeah. Tree mail is a nickname for the way the producers speak to the cast. So, like, the only way they do it is like they put mail, like they put a little letter in this mailbox outside. And they like, I think in like season two, someone was like, Oh, it's like tree mail, like mail, and that's just what they call it. And then there's always like a rhymey way that they put it in there, and you can kind of guess what's gonna come up. Um, and that's kind of fun.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

Yes, and Emily uses that riddle, she clocks the tribe swap immediately. I know. She is a mastermind. I'm really, I'm really enjoying Emily. I like she just like she just I feel has the vision.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Yes, but I also wanted to just laugh at the fact that like every time they have to say Billy Eilish Boomerang Idol, it's so funny, but like Sari's face, like she was trying to act. It looked to me like she was like, that is so weird. Why are you guys like, why is this a part of the game right now? The crowd was cracking up.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

I feel like they have the producers like holding a gun behind the camera, being like, all it the Billy Eilish boomerang idol.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

I think so. I loved it though. I thought that was like I just their reaction, and even Christian's reaction, like trying to get his last reaction because he's acting part of the gods, it was so funny. Uh then you're right. Emily tells us we're going to Tribe Stop. Okay, Jeff raps. This is not the first time, but oh, really? I think it might be the first time he started the song. Last year or a couple years ago, they started singing chicken and waffles, and it was also a cringe fest. I don't know what's going on here.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

This was interesting. I think Survivor lost me a little bit here. Jeff, I want to love Jeff. I know the people love Jeff. I know he is the people's princess.

SPEAKER_00 15:58

But I also think the people's king, though. Can I just say like he is more like he is we respect him because he's in charge and he hasn't done us dirty. He has done us weird. If that makes sense. So I think the people's princess, I feel like, is like totally like we just love to love you, but like Jeff is more like we revere him, you know what I mean? I I can't mention anyone else doing this job, but he is like the dad I create, you know, I like close my eyes, you know, cover my eyes.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

Well, definitely in this instance, yes. I also felt they tried to edit around it, but I do not think the castaways could keep the beat. And they had to add the music over it. And I was like, they are not snapping in time. It is a simple, like oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

And like while this is happening, or like right before Emily, uh Christian just whispers to Emily, I found an idol, or Devin's fine. I don't did they keep the lie the same.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

I think he just says Aubrey has an idol. And Emily's like, What? And he says, We found an idol last night. We sent it to Aubrey. I don't, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

I wonder if they truly didn't believe that it was a tribe swap. And they were like, We have more time. Because Emily was the one who said it, but did everyone go like, yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

On the walkover, on the boat, like there could have been a time to try and whisper in her ear.

SPEAKER_00 17:28

I guess I wonder if they're not allowed to talk on the boat because we'd never do see them talk.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

Probably, yeah. And he makes it so obvious when he's whispering in her ear on the mat that I was like, if this is how you're gonna tell her now, what was the risk of pulling her for a chat this morning? But I will say they get to the area for the tribe swap, and before Jeff starts rapping, they do not seem to really care about Savannah's elimination.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

They're like, oh, okay. Which is crazy. We're gonna get there. That is Rizzo's number one. That was Rizzo's number one all through season 49. He does he made an interesting calculation. So yeah, no, I mean they didn't really make a big deal. I think everyone's just like, I don't know, so focused in. I I guess that it makes sense for all the castaways, but I was like, why aren't we zooming in on Rizzo, seeing his reaction? I thought that was weird.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

Right. I I do think if I were them, I'd be glad that a winner was gone. I know we talked about this a little bit last week. They seem, I think, a little bit like, okay, best best to get rid of the winners, I think, even as a player. You're like, they've they've done it. Good for them. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

But they are so close, um, or so it seems. And we'll we'll talk more about that. What did you think about like the tribe stop in general? Like, were you I mean it's it's such a more meaningful, so much more meaningful to like me as a person who knows all these people, probably, than to you. Like, you're probably like trying to calculate the dynamics pretty quickly. Talk to me about that.

SPEAKER_03 19:01

Well, it definitely did not look how I expected it to. I I like that they clarified that it is a random rearranging where he just says drop your buff and they they all kind of lose their affiliation and then get new buffs. I don't think in the moment I had much of a sense of the new dynamics. Like, I I definitely don't know everybody well enough to look at them all meeting each other to to get a sense of what it's gonna be like. The first note I had, I mean, obviously a lot of them, Charlie was talking about how he was not happy about um the tribe swap. Camilla was not happy, and Jeff calls her out for it until she saw Jonathan.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

She's like, oh wait, never mind.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

And I think that she played that well because you I it makes sense to be like, this is a big shakeup, I'm not looking forward to this. But as soon as you're there, you have to start winning people over. You have to be like, oh, I'm actually really excited to be paired with these people because you don't want to be too upset about the tribe swap and make enemies in your new tribe. So it I this is where I note noted like this is throwing all of these alliances that have been made over the last couple of episodes into disarray. Or is it like, or are you more loyal to your first tribe or to your second? Like, very interesting. And the other note I made was that you're losing your advantages. Camilla's like, I'm going to the no Flint tribe. Like, and so that's really interesting too. You've won these rewards challenges, you've gotten your kit camp improvement kit, and now you're losing it. Like, I would be pretty upset.

SPEAKER_00 20:48

It's so interesting. Yeah, you're totally spot on. And I think that's why tribe swaps are so interesting, especially when it's a returning season. Um, you'll see in a moment, like David versus Goliath. There's three different players from that season on the same tribe, but like that's very interesting in this dynamic versus like you said, are you more loyal to your first tribe or your second tribe? Or your season, right? You there's so many complexities here. One other thing that was interesting, specifically with Camilla, is arguably the move that won Kyle the game actually happened this early on when Camilla and Kyle were part of the dominant tribe um on the beach. But then when they swapped, they were in the minority. There were only two of them and three of another tribe. So it was obvious get Kyle or Camilla out. But they used their secret friendship to totally maneuver the vote and get one of the three out in a way that when Kyle talked about it at Final Tribal, that's what Joe was talking about the egg on his face. He had no idea they were that close. He had no idea Kyle had this ace in the hole when he was up against him. And so it's interesting, it's just like, I didn't. Like it last time, I don't like it this time. But I'm like, Camilla, that went so well for you. And if you can swing that again, now you're the winner because Kyle's gone. That's how I like it.

SPEAKER_03 22:09

Interesting. Actually, speaking of some of these like new arrangements while they're still all on the beach, my first note was Kahlo is not my tribe anymore. I know I said episode one, Teal Team, Kahlo was my tribe. As soon as Camilla left, it was kind of over for me. It's like mishonour integrity. But I still love Tiff. I was like, love you, Tiff. Best of luck over in Teal Team.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Yeah, you're totally right. So that's like Chrissy, Coach, Tiff. We have Aubrey, Colby, Genevieve, and Joe. That is a not those Eli Genevieve, but and Tiff. Yes. But that's like the honor and integrity tribe. You have Chrissy, the one who's talking about it the most, I think, out of the folks there, maybe Stephanie. Um, yeah, that was a that was a funny tribe from the beginning.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

I'm like, I think that it is the honor and integrity portion. And actually, this is the first note I had for Kahlo tribe when they all go back to the beach and start establishing their new order. Joe, Coach, and Colby are all like coming together and talking about how much they all respect each other. And I was like, there's just too much masculine energy happening in here for me. I was I was out. And that I I love that for them. They have found their people, they have found their honor and integrity group, but that is when I was a little bit overwhelmed.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

No idea why coach gave him that much credit either. Like, no, coach, you're one of the most iconic players in survivor history. You're not here because of Joe, who played five minutes ago. Come on. Like, what did he even mean? Or like maybe he just felt confident in going. I don't even know. What do you think? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

Well, and we see the flashback that so they they established there's some history between coach and Colby, and Coach beat Colby in the heroes versus villain season in a challenge. Two two questions, slash notes. First is not a question. Okay, coach with brown hair. It was very interesting. I don't know how long ago this was.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

It was very interesting to see, like like 25, like along 20. I don't know. I don't know. I guess I'm making up a number, but a while ago.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

Yeah. That kind of took me by surprise. But the other piece was they were on opposing teams, and I think they maybe say in the flashback, was he on the villains team?

SPEAKER_00 24:29

So coach was on the villains tribe. Yeah. And to be honest, it was more that coach was perceived as kind of a little bit of a joke. Like he's doing these yoga poses all the time. He calls himself the Dragon Slayer. He called like Dragon Slayer is his second nickname. He's already called Coach, right? Like he was kind of the silly goose that did took himself too seriously and a little bit of a joke. And so villains, I don't know if anyone thought of him as a villain, but maybe just like not a fan favorite. He's called a Dragon Slayer, right? But Kobe, though, is like God status. He was on multiple TV shows. I think they even gave him a TV show. Like he was America's sweetheart, talking about the people's princess. So when they went against each other, and everyone thinks Kobe is like people were saying Kobe should have been in the NFL, like maybe he could be the first person to go from survivor to that, like, and then he's getting this coach, and then coach beats him. It was a kind of a big deal. And Kobe was a super sore loser about it. Like he was embarrassed on TV, and you could see it. He did not do his hero name well in Heroes versus Villain. So I'm glad he's back. This is, I believe this is just his third time back. So I'm he's kind of redeeming himself.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

This is where Kahlo, we go from the little bro cuddle puddle into Tiff and Genevieve. And I said, I'm gonna need Tiff and Genevieve to queen out together to save Kahlo tribe for me. Like they are they are my last hope. And it is actually kind of we go, that I probably just made a note of while they were just talking to each other in the I know, because they do not align. No, and we get though to Chrissy. I know. And coach tells Chrissy, hey, this is your opportunity to like reset the old tribe. They were you were getting on their nerves. They felt like you were too.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

You say that so much more compassionately than he did.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

He didn't do a great job, but I don't think there's an easy way to deliver that news either. Like, I think he was coming from a I actually didn't dislike necessarily how Coach handled it. There was a little bit too much non-verbal communication. Like you can't just keep putting your hands down. That's that's not telling that's not properly communicating to her what the issue is. And she's like, I'm fine, I don't feel stressed. Thank you for telling me to calm down. And he's like, that's not what I mean. And so yes, he could have handled it better, but it's a it's a difficult thing to hear, and it's a difficult thing to try and deliver, regardless. And she does like start crying, and this actually, instead of Genevieve and Tiff queening out, we do have Genevieve and Aubrey pulling Chrissy like for a little girl chat. And I actually really liked girl talk on the beach. I started tearing up with Chrissy. She starts talking about like her medical history and how she's a real life survivor. I was like very moved by by all of this.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

Me too. I my note was just like Chrissy, be vulnerable more often. Like she, because I think that's what's gonna win people over. I think when she's like, Yeah, I'm all right. Like the first thing she says when Coach makes this nonverbal cube is like, I'm all right, I can take care of you, you know, like and she's getting this mom energy. But then when she like slows down, talks about what's going on. I loved how she said, like, I have a really rich life, a really great life back home. Like, I don't know why I'm putting myself through this, but I just was like, that is what gets you through it, though, is like knowing that you you you don't have to live in this, you get to go home. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

That that little trio forming, at least in that moment of them just like being there to support her. I really, really enjoyed that scene.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

I know. I wish Tiffany was there because it's interesting that Tiffany, like during this whole time, you know, it's Aubrey and Genevieve being on either side of Chrissy, but Genevieve's gunning for Aubrey. And Tiffany's like, not today. Isn't that interesting? I wonder what she sees in her.

SPEAKER_03 28:34

Yes, that is so. We we do go to Genevieve kind of talking through her strategy, her new social game now that she's got her new tribe. My my first note is love her pink jumper. I want it, I'm obsessed with her sweater. Genevieve's I've maybe already said that before. I've definitely thought. I don't think so. It's great. She is like, I need to get, I need to throw Aubrey under the bus right now. I need to make alliances with everybody and then tell everybody I don't trust Aubrey. This starts with, and this is something I think I made a note of week one, and just I need to talk about the vocabulary that these players are using when they want to make alliances. Okay. I'm not comfortable with everybody telling each other that they want to play with them. I'm just not the I I really want to play with you. I want to play with you too. They seem like somebody I could play with. I think we need a better word. This is season 50. I think we could have come up with a better so funny.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

I'm gonna play this game. I want to play this game with you, but they do say I want to play with you a lot. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 29:44

And that was originally like Colby, I think, talking about Rizzo and being like, I'm not sure that this is somebody I can play with. And like, there's something very just juvenile about the language as well. That I've I've had this note and keep forgetting to bring it up. But she we see a montage of her like gunning for Chrissy and Joe and Coach and being like, I want to play with you. This I'm a safe place. And she's like, new and improved social game from Genevieve. I haven't seen the old social game. Yeah, I think she was doing pretty well, uh, except for how indiscriminately she is telling everyone that she doesn't trust Aubrey, which to your point backfires when she tells Tiff.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

Right. I know, yeah. That was a very that's such a funny thing that you you said, but like I I just I'm so in the lingo, I don't even hear it. But yeah, she was talking to everyone. Like she's like, I'm willing to sacrifice Aubrey to be like your friend. Um which isn't always like if you I think a new and improved social game is like connecting with people, and then like when it comes up, like at a later date, when you actually have to go, you can't but when you start with throwing someone out of the bus, you're like, Well, they could just as easily do this to me. It just doesn't really set the tone well. And I think it's just so much better to connect with one person than be against another, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 31:08

Agreed, and I think that's that's where I'm like we start the montage with her just kind of like doing that outreach and that connection, and then the second half of it is her telling them all how she doesn't trust Aubrey, and I I like the first half more than the second half.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

You imagine those are the same conversations.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

No, exactly. Yes, yeah, I think you're right. I think Tiffany though, for whatever reason, is Aubrey's ride or die.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

And is like, I guess she must be a fan. I don't really know. I like I didn't see anything that needed to happen. I don't think Tiffany has any way of knowing about the idol that Aubrey has. And so I think she must just like have loved her in the past and been like, this is my person more than Genevieve. Genevieve didn't have like Genevieve was a little bit known as the villain in her season, I would say. Um, they did show a lot of her like vulnerable side to the camera, but showed how she had such a hard time showing her tribe mates her vulnerabilities. Right. Um, and she would she kind of cut her number ones a couple, like she had a different couple number ones and would cut them. So she's like a really strong player, but I think she's like trying to be like, I'm not doing that this time. Like this time I'm building relations instead relationships instead of um tearing them down. So I don't know. I I thought that was interesting, but yeah, Tiffany or Aubrey says she's my survivor angel.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

And she is. I mean, she it's interesting to think about, and we haven't really seen the idols come into play yet, but it's I I can see how the gameplay relies on you not letting the person you're planning to vote out know that you're planning to vote them out because as soon as they know there's a target on their back, Aubrey has the idol, she could save herself if she knows that like Genevieve is trying to turn the tribe against her. So very, very interesting things going on over in Kahlo. Do you have any other thoughts about the Teal tribe before we no? I think I'm good. Shall we go to Sila to our to we'll follow my my winner, Camilla? And of course, D. I was really excited that they ended up on the same tribe together. And I felt like with the new Sila, I think this might be my new tribe for now, because most of my favorite Kahlo members, Jonathan, has really grown on me and like they're all still together here in the new Sila.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

Oh yeah. I I like I like this group. I think if any group doesn't have to touch tribal, um, it might be this group. Like that tends to be Jonathan's effect on people. Um, and so yeah, I thought that was fun. I was really happy for Camilla um that she got to be with this tribe, and I think she's she was like a little disappointed that they didn't have Flint. And she's like, oh, but they have fire. But they have camp. And it made me wonder. I was like, I wonder if after season 50 we'll boomerang or we'll yeah, boomerang, we'll use the Billy Eilish term back to the time where people build camps again. Because as you kind of heard, people are like, sleeping on the dirt is fine, like you're only here like a certain amount of time. But like seeing people's responses and even just like the fact that they have something to do when they build a shelter, I think that it I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back after season 50.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

It's interesting that you say that because from a psychological perspective as well, not only is that filling the time, but having a super ordinate goal, having a like goal and a project that you are working to as a team is one of the most effective ways to bond with people. And so Rizzo, for example, is like, oh, this is a social game. I'm here to play Survivor, I'm not here to camp. That time camping and working together as a team is actually the social game, is building your relationships. So I haven't seen anything different, but I I think it is short-sighted to think that there's not a social benefit to also improving your quality of life by building a camp for the time that you're here.

SPEAKER_00 35:26

Right. I love it. And so that was just like a fun group. And you know, speaking of Rizzo, Suria's like, I did not invite this boy to my house.

SPEAKER_03 35:38

It's like, you know, when you have guests and you're not really ready for them to come over, you don't really want them to come over. She says, Riz God, okay? Lord, help me.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

This is when the crowd at the bar, besides Ozzy moments, they were the loudest. They were cracking up, they were booing Rizzo, cheering Sari. Like, I couldn't even really hear the conversation because people just like love Sari so much and hate Rizzo so much. And I was feeling a little relieved because I just can't stand that kid. And it was nice that I'm like, okay, at least I'm not bullying him. Maybe it's worse if everyone hates him, but at least I'm not like an individual who who sees wrong in him. He reserves people the wrong way.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

Yes, we we have lots to get into with Rizzo, I feel like, in this new tribe. I do have a couple, I have a note about Suri, actually. Another reason I'm happy that Dee is here is because she has a best friend back home who is talking sense to her, who told her if you are on a tribe with Suri, get her out. And already they've been on this tribe together for one day. And Dee's like, I don't know, she's so likable. And she's like, but this is what my friend warned me about. You do this is what I feel like I've been saying.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

I should share my screen for the notes. I was like, Lucas is going to love that D ocoxerie. D Lucas is the best friend.

SPEAKER_03 37:05

Yes. I was like, finally, somebody. Because immediately, Sari just has this magic that she works on these people, and it's one thing that it makes logical sense that like Sari's a great player, she's a threat. But then they meet her and she just wins them over. So thank you to D's BFF for keeping her head in the game. I'm really rooting. If this tribe ever does go to tribal, I'm I'm really hoping that Dee and Camilla can get some traction behind Sari. Unfortunately, they probably won't be able to. She's way too likable, but she is the target. I I really I love Sari, and I also don't trust her as far as I can throw her.

SPEAKER_00 37:49

Like Yeah. I'm gonna do a quick spoiler alert for the US traders. Um all seasons. If you don't know what I'm talking about, go ahead and skip ahead. But Lucas, do you know that until recently she was the only trader to have won in the US traders?

SPEAKER_03 38:07

I did know that she won. I did not know that she was the only US winner.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

All the other ones are faithful won. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

In the US.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

So that was an interest. So that just shows another thing. Like her magic's not just on Survivor. Yeah. And I mean, she brought one other person to the very end and like tab them in the back as a traitor. Like, she's just, she is so good. And I was talking to my dad, right? Like, you know, he's a big fan, but also like he's not in the universe like I. He's not listening to podcasts or following anyone on Instagram. And he was just saying, like, what is it about Siri? Like, there's nothing she sparkles, but there's nothing you can put your finger on. And I think that's what also like lowers her threat level, even though everyone around her knows that she has one. It's great, it's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 38:53

Oh my gosh. There is now, and this starts happening in a lot of tribes, conversation around who we would eliminate if we went to tribal, but also who we want to get out. And this was an interesting question that I wrote down, and then it kind of became a pattern. Could you plan to lose a challenge or throw a challenge because you want to go to tribal to eliminate somebody?

SPEAKER_00 39:18

100% and people do it. And I was, I am thinking because this is the honor and integrity tribe, they're not gonna do it. First of all, it's it's really like a a lot of fans will hate you if you do it. Like a lot of people are like, that's not great. Sometimes people, there's I have like one person who says they threw a challenge that I believe that they were just embarrassed by their performance one time, and like I'm like that, you look even stupider. You're right, like it just I think there it's not smart to do that unless you have a sure win the next time for some reason, right? Like if you need to vote, you have no cracks on your tribe, you're going to merge tomorrow, you're sure you're going to merge tomorrow, and you want your tribe to have one more number than theirs. That is the only reason you would ever do it, I think.

SPEAKER_03 40:08

Interesting. Okay, so you don't think that the benefits of like targeting elimination outweigh the the cons?

SPEAKER_00 40:18

Because unfortunately, you can only control your vote. So, like, if you throw it and say, like, you know, Jonathan throws a challenge, Coach hears about that. He he thinks about Jonathan so much differently that he's gonna vote out Jonathan now. Now that that worked against you. As long, unless you can be almost as uh close to 100% sure as possible, it doesn't, it can backfire.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

I guess I was thinking more so when we get to Vatu, maybe we'll get there. That's where Angelina ends up, right? Is Vatu. They are like so ready to get rid of her that I was wondering could an alliance like we're all gonna work together, we need to cut this dead weight, we're all gonna fail the challenge. But you're talking more about like individual.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

But who went home? It wasn't Angelina, right? It was cute. The risk is not worth like it's always better to make sure you get to tomorrow than risk you go you going home at tribal. Cutting somebody out. Right? So if you lose, then it makes sense to vote out the person you want and make that alliance then. But there's like unless you're a hundred percent sure it's not gonna be you, might as well.

SPEAKER_03 41:29

Don't put yourself even near the chopping block.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 41:33

So Rizzo, I think refers to himself as the man, the myth, the legend, the R-I-Z-C. Not on my podcast. Not on my podcast. Girl, this my next note. We see him with Charlie, and I said, Rizzo pairing up with Charlie is kind of bugging me. I said, stay away from him. I'm I like Charlie.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

Like, oh my gosh. Okay, so this is what like to come again. This is how it's edited. I'm maybe they had a warmer conversation. For the first thing for Richard to say to Charlie is so uh, you don't vote, you don't talk to Maria anymore, huh? Like Maria is the person, so Charlie lost his season by one vote, and his best friend voted against him. Usually you get over it, you're like, it's a game. Maria said, No, like you had sort of a hand in getting me out. I'm not voting for you. Voted for this other woman who she did not like, had no specific relationship with. And it's kind of a big deal because he only lost by one vote. So it was like truly Maria picking. So Rizzo, to say, to open with that, first of all, is like trauma. Thanks for talking about my most traumatizing moment.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

I had no clue that's what he said. I learned they talk about Maria later in this scene. So now that you say that, I did not talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 43:02

He says, So you don't talk to Maria anymore. And then and I think he's, you know, I Rizzo is smart to think that and to talk to his producers about that. What it's dumb is to A, start that way. So he's already on the defensive, right? Like, you know, how do you think about this situation? And then, Rizzo, you dummy, you just told him you didn't vote for your best friend last night.

SPEAKER_03 43:28

Well, and here's the thing. So that's not technically maybe the first thing he said to him. Maybe that is on his mind because this was the conversation last night, and Charlie is asleep. Charlie is laying with his eyes open, looking absolutely scandalized in the night vision flashback. Because Rizzo talks about how he did not vote for his best friend in the final, even though he's like his number one made it to the top three. He didn't vote for them, and that is that turns Charlie's blood. Cold, which makes me happy because I my first note when Rizzo sat down next to him was get away. But that's interesting because that must have been topic of conversation overnight. And so he now goes to sit down next to Charlie, and his opener is so you don't talk to more. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 44:16

You're right. Yeah, the way they edited it because they flash back, like that's interesting. I like thought of it as the first thing he said, even though I knew they talked about it last night. Yeah, and so the thing that's interesting is that Rizzo and Savannah were incredibly close day one. And then in a tribe swap, they meet Sophie and she becomes their third. Those three play the whole game together. I imagine Rizzo and Savannah decided that they were not gonna tell people they were close, that because their games were so tightly aligned, similar to Kyle and Camilla. There was a third person, Sophie. I have, but I always thought of Savannah and again, I see the edit, he might, in his heart of hearts, Sophie might be his favorite person, best friend. But I was like, Rizzo, no, if you're talking to Charlie, you talk about how you voted for your best friend, dummy. Does that make sense? This is like a complicated, okay.

SPEAKER_03 45:15

So he voted for Savannah and Savannah won. But the conversation is around, oh, who was your best friend? Who was your number one? And he says it was Sophie, and he's like, I didn't vote for because they asked him, like, are people gonna call you a Maria? That's the first time I heard the name Maria. Right. Put it, piece it all together. Well, yeah, I'm I'm just glad that Rizzo has made an enemy of Charlie. I was like, thank you. They scared me, they had me in the beginning. I was like, oh no, do not do not a lie, and they didn't. So I'm I'm happy about that.

SPEAKER_00 45:47

And Charlie says, I don't want him within an inch of a jury seat. As far as I'm concerned, he's lost that right. He's talking about it so intensely. I'm like, oh, and I mean, it was just a really bad calculator. I I just can't believe how Rizzo had all the pieces, but still missed his point in that.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

And yet Rizzo only wants to play the social game. And he doesn't want to camp.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

So, like, what is and he can't, he's not gonna challenge us, so I don't know. What does he think Survivor is?

SPEAKER_03 46:22

What does he think the game of Survivor is? I would I would love to know.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

And so this is what we call a big mistake, huge, and that is a quote from Q. And then we have to use it at some point in this episode because of Q.

SPEAKER_03 46:40

I I the my only other note from the Charlie Rizzo conversation. This is the first time I have noticed their facial hair. So do they not shave for these like four weeks sit there there?

SPEAKER_00 46:54

Do they have, do they use nothing? Machete. Like so they can't shave while they're there, they don't brush their teeth, they don't have soap, they have nothing.

SPEAKER_03 47:05

I have, yeah, I've noticed them using those stalks or whatever in their teeth, but I just hadn't noticed maybe that the facial hair was growing. Mine would just be a lot further along, maybe at seven days, six days.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

So they look like maybe they've been shaving, but I think some people are not as a blast in that department. You have very good hair in all in all ways.

SPEAKER_03 47:30

Oh my gosh. So the last tribe to all get together in the new swap is Vatu. You mentioned this on the beach. This tribe has Mike White and two other people from his original season, David and Goliath. They talk about this a lot. This trio becomes a focal point of kind of the Vatu tribe, this episode. We also have Q allying pretty quickly with Ozzy and saying, hey, it was me and Genevieve. We sent you the idol, we know that you have the idol. And something that they maybe originally intended as sabotage, I think it's a good idea to immediately use that as like, hey, I'm here on your side. I sent you the idol to build that bond. And then he also loops in Emily originally and is like, I'm ready to get rid of Angelina.

SPEAKER_00 48:27

Which I didn't think was gonna be a big deal. I think I didn't also realize how close Angelina and Mike White are. Like, so we see Angelina talk about how Mike White is one of her closest friends.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 48:42

And, you know, I knew she had her white lotus cameo. I saw that. And those are fun to track. So now that you've met some of these people, Lucas, it'll be interesting to see if in season four you recognize anyone.

SPEAKER_03 48:53

And of course, I remember that scene. They show us the scene from The White Lotus. I didn't even quite recognize Angelina even in the scene, but she's currently a castaway.

SPEAKER_00 49:03

So obviously a little bit different than Yeah, it was like a two-second thing. Yeah. Yes. Um, yeah, he's done quite a few of them, so that's really fun. I'm excited to see. Like, I can't wait for season four. Like, I want to see because they filmed that like right after this, so it'll be fun to see who breaks. Anyway, I thought, yeah, I agree. It was interesting that Q's just like, let's do this. I thought if he had just calculated the social game a little bit better, this might have been an easy, an easy out. But he didn't.

SPEAKER_03 49:34

Well, Q and Mike have a very interesting kind of they they are in some ways the leaders of these two different factions that start to form. Emily, and she says this, becomes something of a free agent and a little bit of a chaos agent because she tells Q and Ozzie, she's mad at Christian for telling her so last minute and so poorly about Aubrey's idol that she's like burning the bridge. Here's the thing. I now, after watching the whole episode, realize Emily just tells everyone everything. So I thought, like, oh, this is a strategic move. She's like getting over onto Q and Ozzie's side, telling them everything. That continues throughout the whole episode.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

I was like, was she like this in her first season? I don't know. She cannot hold anything. And I think that's part of not having like, well, a set group, but she does if she just trusted Christian. Like she really lost her faith in that in a big way. And I think that's a good point. Of like, I think the lesson actually, if we were to write like a little rule book for this uh episode, is hey, like, don't lie when you don't need to. Like, Q's lying when he doesn't need to. They just don't know what the detail is.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

Yeah. I do like Emily kind of sharing this information. Q has some good quotes here when he says, When you come to my house, you better bring a dish. And it's like Emily has offered up this dish as part of her like joining the alliance. And then he he says here, and this speaks to what we were talking about, we lose once, we trim the fat. He's like, let's let's gun for Angelina. But Emily pretty quickly realizes that she is still kind of the odd one out in this group and is right to do so. She's like, oh, Ozzy kind of just needs me for the vote. She doesn't know it, but Q also needs her for a vote because he doesn't have one. So she immediately goes over to Angelina and tells Angelina everything. But I really like this scene. It's really sad to see Angelina realize like how her old tribe was viewing her, that everybody was ready to vote her out. I was really sad to see her crying. But these two, as players, to your point, I think people know when you're not being genuine. People know when you're lying. And they can tell that they just both kind of crave and value genuine connection. And so they like Emily's like, Can I hug you? And they share a hug. And I think like in this game where you don't feel like you can really trust anybody and you're gonna get backstabbed at any moment. I really was touched by this bond between Emily and Angelina there.

SPEAKER_00 52:26

I did too. I thought it was really sweet. It's like I just thought in general, Emily was so human here, and it just like went a long way.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

Emily, I think you're so spot on. Emily gets so she can just tell in her gut like something's wrong. I am not a key player when Q and Stephanie are speaking to one another. Like I am in the background, and I'm like, that is a good read. Like, she has definitely grown in her people's skills.

SPEAKER_03 52:54

And I think it ends up, at least in this episode, working in her favor in some ways, that she quickly kind of allies herself with Q and Ozzie, and then that becomes the Steph like foresome. She gets in their good graces, becomes a bit of a free agent, and then is like, wait a second, the vibes are off here, and goes back to Angelina, who's part of the David versus Goliath trio, and then goes back to Christian and is like begging for forgiveness. She's like, I made a big mistake. Before she even starts, she's like, You're gonna hate me. Yes, and like you said, she is being very human, and she's like, I'm so sorry, you're gonna hate me. Please forgive me. His whole plan is kind of messed up because now everybody knows about the article. But I like that Emily recognizes that, like, no, Christian is is a better person to be play, like trusting in this situation. And so you've got the David and Goliath trio indebted to Emily and Christian for this information, for knowing that Angelina was a target. And that is where Mike kind of steps in, but I think that comes in after the immunity challenge.

SPEAKER_00 54:10

The only other note I just had was Christian's reaction to Emily telling him when they would like they were like gutting to his confessional where he's just like losing his mind was so funny. I'm I felt for him. I felt for him.

SPEAKER_03 54:24

It really did blow up his whole plan. Like, I yeah, it was it was a bit of a mistake from Emily.

SPEAKER_00 54:31

It was. It was a bit of a mistake from Emily, but also like Christian. I I get that you're right. Like her hit the timing wasn't great, but I'm like, I don't know. Like, you could have brought her in. If you're gonna bring her and bring her in earlier, or don't, I don't know. Or maybe now that you're on the same beach, just be like it happened so quick, but you just can't know those things.

SPEAKER_03 54:49

Yeah, almost just like agree with Devons and Cari that like if one of us is on a tribe with Emily, we need to tell her as soon as the swap is over. Like, you almost don't want it to be rushed, just like give it the time that it needed because the urgency fell off.

SPEAKER_00 55:05

Well, then we go to the immunity challenge, and I the fact that it is a blindfold challenge. I hate these people always get hurt. And they do and they do stressed. The only way you can describe what happens to Colby is he gets like bonked in the head. I was like, oh no.

SPEAKER_03 55:26

Oh, I like have chills thinking about it. You are moving when you're blindfolded and you are moving full like pelt ahead without the idea that an obstacle is there, you are hitting your head hard. And it was, I think, just because he had kind of climbed up this incline of hay or straw, and so he was too high to go under the beam that he didn't know was there. You didn't. And I was like, is he bleeding? Is I think it was just dirt on his buff, but I thought there was like blood starting to come through the blindfold. And I think he was okay, but you I was like, I just know he is like now sick to his stomach, nauseous, like nothing. And nervous to walk. And in the background of the rest of the challenge, I was every time I saw him, I was just like, poor Colby is not feeling well.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

I'm curious what you thought about the prize about the chickens.

SPEAKER_03 56:16

We need to talk about the chick. The reward is chickens. I re the the first tribe wins four chickens. Live chickens, and then the second tribe wins a singular chicken. This, I never would have guessed that this would have been a factor in the game. Never would have expected this as a reward. This is I I am Billy Eilish boomeranging back and forth every episode. Last episode, I was like, yep, I think I could do Survivor. This, you've lost me again. I we don't actually see the winning tribes after the immunity challenge, so I don't know what we will see of these chickens next episode. But I don't know that I could butcher alive chicken.

SPEAKER_00 57:08

So funny. I was trying to predict, like, because I you are from Indiana, you're from like the rolling hills of Indiana a little bit more than I am, but I'm African, and so like my I the shame I would bring my family if I didn't kill that chicken. Unreal. But so I I would do it, but I could not decide like if you would or wouldn't be able to do it. But also, sometimes people keep them alive for the eggs until they start to starve. And then they don't produce as much eggs. So it I feel a little ways about because it is a TV show. If we're actually trying to survive, that's hard.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

That was part of it for me. I was like, this is a production, like it and so, yeah. I I feel two ways about it from like just the ethics of the production standpoint. I do think in the game, and who knows, I think I would not be happy about it. I would not be the first to volunteer. I would maybe on a tribe of seven be like the fourth to volunteer. Like, and I don't know why we'd be going down the list, but like I think I would not be happy about it, but I would do it.

SPEAKER_00 58:13

I think I'd always, and the other thing is, this is probably I don't know what this is about my character, but I would every day I'd rather kill it than like defeather it 100%.

SPEAKER_03 58:22

And that's the thing too. I would much I'm sorry to to chickens listening right now.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

I ate chickens for breakfast, like I eat chickens all day.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

I would much rather like snap a chicken's neck than have to like prepare it.

SPEAKER_00 58:36

Yeah, I don't know how to do that. That's I don't have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 58:40

Yeah, that one was interesting. That that took me by surprise. And there I had a thought of like, oh, what if a survivor player player was vegan? And I think this is where I started thinking, like, well, in real life, if you are trying to survive and you are on a desert island, like taking of the taking of the earth is is one thing. This is a TV show.

SPEAKER_00 59:03

I do wonder, like, what do you do if no, so that happened not too long ago. One of my favorite players in the new era, vegetarian, eight years, amazing guy. And but he always surprised me with how thoughtful and stuff he was. One of those things. Being he was a vegetarian. He won chicken wings, and it's it's kind of complicated how he did it, but he had to like sacrifice a lot to win it. And he didn't know they were gonna be chicken wings. The producers didn't either, it's like a hidden thing, anyway. And uh he ate those chicken wings. It was the first time he had me in eight years. Isn't that crazy? Oh my god. So people it's happened, and it's and sometimes people disagree, people will like get voted out because they don't want to get the chickens. Like, it's a whole it causes a lot of chaos.

SPEAKER_03 59:49

Interesting. Okay, I have I have one more note before they get into the challenge. Jeff talks about like if you lose, you'll be going to tribal, and one of you will become the fourth person voted out of Survivor 50.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

I'm sure this is just a production thing. They don't want to like change the language, but it does bug me that like you are not gonna be the fourth person voted out. You're gonna be the third person voted out of Survivor 50.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:21

I get that they don't want to probably change the language with the med-evac. They may have a a challenge later or something where it's like there have been 10, you're now the 10th person voted out. So you have I get it would struggle to like adapt to the med-evac, but it's like that's fair.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:37

No, I didn't notice that. Um, but you're I think you're right, and I think usually they're more careful about that stuff. That surprises me a little bit. Yeah, that's interesting. Well, we talk so first place we have the Sila tribe with the orange tribe. They're going home with four chickens. Good for you guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:54

Good for Camilla. She she called them to a victory. I just, you know me. I'm I'm always rooting for my girl. So good for Camilla.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:02

I love her too. I'm really happy for her. I wish we got to see her more. I miss her.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:07

She didn't do much, yeah. But she led them to victory. And we'll get there, but like this challenge really does rest in the hands of the caller because they have to direct the otherwise blindfolded tribe, which we'll get there. First, we have Chrissy who calls for Kahlo, and I, for her sake, I appreciate that she leads them to second place. They they get one chicken. Christian really feels the pressure of being the person calling for Vatu, and they get last place. They unfortunately on that final puzzle were not even close.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:46

I know. I don't know what is going on with them. Like, I feel bad because I didn't think they do have a little bit of an older try, but I didn't think they had no shot when I saw them um on the mat. This video.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:01

I also don't feel like this challenge was about honestly speed or physical prowess. It is direction and like in some ways luck about throwing when you throw a thing up off of the pole, where does it land? And then you're searching for it. But I it really seemed to be, unfortunately, Christian's directions, especially around the puzzle and like how to rotate a puzzle piece. Like they just were not speaking the same language, and it was it was pretty bad. I think they didn't have a single puzzle piece in the mat or wherever it needs to be by the time the second place team had finished the challenge.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:42

Right. Oh, so we go back to the Vatu tribe, everyone's bombed. There is some weird gameplay happening here, and unfortunately, that is Q's thing. Like, he's just like, vote for me. You're gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. We're and then I was a little sad with our result tonight because he is just so chaotic, and I think it's kind of fun. Um, but I'm just like, Q, let's like stay focused, man. Let's never vote offer yourself up, but we'll get there.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:16

I love so we we first kind of see Mike talking to Q and Ozzy. Steph walks up and joins, and he tells Steph to her face, like, I'm I think I'll vote for you. Which at first I was like, I love that, Mike. You tell her to her face, like you're I'm gonna vote you out. And then we learn that he has ulterior motives, which I love. Um, Mike is actually gunning for Q. And he's like, I'm gonna get everybody to say that they're voting for Steph, and then we're actually gonna vote for Q. It's diabolical. I love it. Like I said from episode one, do not trust this man. But I love to see him scheming in a way where Q is just like chaos. I do feel like Mike is quite calculated. And he then tells Q, like, oh, my plan is to vote for Stephanie. And he's like, Nope, that's my number one. I'm gonna protect her. You vote for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:08

And Mike is like, oh, he thinks it's gonna work. Yeah, and he's talking about the extra vote, and I'm like, oh, like I don't think lying like that is gonna be helpful. Like, I don't think anyone who actually had an extra vote would say that right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

Like, come on, like he's I I was kind of surprised nobody clocked that Q was overcompensating and like saying that he had an extra vote. Because they talk about it later and they're like, oh no, but I'm glad that it doesn't have um I'm I'm glad that nobody is scared away from it by by thinking or believing Q has the extra vote. It is Oh no, I guess Emily says, and I don't quite remember what she means. Like, I think Q thinks he's pulling one over on us, but like unfortunately.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:01

But I don't think she was like a hundred percent against Q until this, like he started being a loose canon, and she says, I think it would be particularly delicious to vote out Q.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

She then, what I think is a pretty bold move because from a numbers perspective, Emily, Christian, and the trio have the numbers to kind of vote out Q themselves. She decides to talk to Ozzie about it, and and I like how she says, I'm not playing Christian's game, I'm playing my game. And so, like, it's not about their alliance, or it's she's like, I want Ozzy on my side, so I'm gonna loop him in and tell him that like I think it might be like you said, I thought that was really smart. Very smart. And as we head into tribal, my main thought was as long as Q, Steph, or Angelina were eliminated, those are the three people that we have talked about eliminating. I would be happy with like the production and the edit of the episode. I just did not want to be blindsided for a third time.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:08

Mm-hmm. I agree. And I, while watching it though, I felt a little bit, it was just, I felt a little bit blindsided because I was in the club. It was, you know, the end of the night, and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I thought it was like Stephanie or Angelina. Because it's just so much talking. Like, it's just a lot to take a hold of. But I but then upon re-watching it, I was like, that was the smart choice. I'm very proud of Emily in this. I'm very happy Ozzie was looped in. Um, I'm like happy that the David and Goliath three can stay strong. I just wonder what happens next for Emily.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:43

Leaving, so looping Ozzie in and leaving Steph out is interesting. It'll be interesting to see how that like drives a wedge because I think otherwise you have kind of forced Ozzy into Steph's camp of like, oh, look at this blind side that all of these people pulled. But I'm I'm happy in hindsight. I thought Emily was being too trusting in the moment. I was like, do not tell Ozzie. Seeing it with some hindsight, I think it was very smart. We we get to Tribal, and Jeff, I get it, it's funny, but these poor people are starving, and he is playing in their faces about chips and popcorn and pizza when they know full well. He is heading home to his lovely resort in Fiji for like five-star meals, five-star dining. Um, but I did like that. He's like, Ozzie, so he's like, so Ozzy, you're winless. What's up with that? And I I'm in that room with him, Lucas. I'm like looking at this man. And he is such a beast, like he has been such a challenge. We still, and it I had not clocked the fact that even with him, he has every time his tribe has lost. That is wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:58

I know, like he's like not just not just within the tribal ones either. He's like, I've lost before that too. And I'm like, ooh, that is rough. Yeah, I I liked it. I I thought that I that banter was that was funny, but I mean that was the first thing I clocked up when I lost. I was like, Christian, Emily, and Ozzy now haven't won. Not great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:18

Any other thoughts around their pre-vote chat? Anything before we kind of get into the final vote?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:28

No, uh, we I just I do feel Q was blindsided. He had no idea that was coming. I think he he didn't have his vote. And so there's one singular vote for Angelina and the rest of you.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:47

And I had wondered how the the disadvantage of not having a vote worked. So it was nice to get some clarity here that it is a secret because he's he's lying about like I have an extra vote. He still goes in and it says you can't vote on the little piece of paper. So he gets to keep that disadvantage a secret. And I was curious, he he would have held on to that up until the point he was at a tribal, and it expires after like one round of tribal. So I'm also just learning some of the the logistics of how the disadvantages work. I did, as much as I enjoyed seeing a player like Mike have a plot, scheme, and see that come to fruition, like that is very satisfying to me. I did feel bad watching Q. He was so blindsided, and he goes to Ozzie and says, Was this you? And Ozzie says, Yes. And oof, that was.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:47

It's just but it wasn't really Ozzy, though. That was my one thing. I was like, I don't know if I would say I mean, maybe it's Ozzy's perception, he is like maybe he thought him and Emily were gonna go together, and somehow the votes would work in his favor, but no.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:03

And and that's I get it's a very brief exchange, and you have to answer the question that Q has asked. And to some extent, Q is asking, Did you vote for me? Like and he did he did. So I this is actually where I wrote my kind of final thought of the episode. Steph, also blindsided, and she's realizing that she is in a pit of vipers.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:28

She is like, Oh, I I'm in danger. Absolutely. Well, tell me, Lucas, when you first met, when you first saw a picture of Q, what did you think?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:42

Yes, okay, Q. He had a suite. He's in his button up, in his promo photo, his entrance. Um, and I wrote he will either be the sweetest player or the most devious. Mmm. Interesting. Revisiting this because I find he devious isn't the right word. Like, I don't think he was out to play a dirty game, but he is chaotic. He is this kind of like chaotic, neutral, maybe, but he's sweet too. Like, so I I'm I'm happy with that estimation. I feel like he does have a a wild card inside of him, and I think that's maybe what I was picking up on as I was intuiting off of his intro photo.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:28

Right. I think, like I said earlier, I feel like you didn't really get to meet Q for all of his chaos. And you know what? Part of me too, though, didn't want him to have this much chaos, or as much case as he had the first time, because I wanted him to redeem himself, but just like seeing him be a little crazy and that um to in this episode was you got a peak of it.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:56

And I will say, like, I don't I I enjoyed having Q around. I don't feel super upset about him leaving. Um so he played a good game. I think he did what he could. Unfortunately, with the three David and Goliath members all ending up in that same tribe together, it is a numbers game and they are losing. Like, as soon as Mike and Christian are friends, you have this for some. Even if Emily and Ozzy and Steph are all voted, like with Q without his vote, it is a numbers game. He was in the minority from the tribe swap, and I don't think there was a lot he could have done, but yeah he he tried his best. Angelina, she might she might turn it around in a way that I was not expecting from the first couple of episodes.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:50

Yeah, she was much more likable this episode as well, but you know, just the way you read it. I did pull up something I kind of want to show you about Q, like a scene that's pretty iconic.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:03

Okay. Choose another person to join you before you decide. I'm gonna make it. Well, Liz is already begging. She hasn't eaten uh in almost 18 days. This is something that she could potentially eat. So my decision is basically gonna be to bring Kenzie. Sorry, y'all. Liz, do you feel comfortable talking about what you're feeling? Q. I'm dead! Q, you almost blew up my whole game! Q voted for me last night. You voted I'm over it now. Applebee's chef is there waiting for you. Fresh, beautiful Applebee's food.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:45

Like Liz. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

The way the way they built an Applebee's on the island.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:02

Isn't that great?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:03

I know it was kind of a look. Yeah, isn't that crazy? So Q, that was the least likable thing I've seen Q do. That is wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:17

It was complicated because, like he said, he she did vote for him the night before. They were not friends. But of course, this girl doesn't really want Applebee. Which, if I remember correctly, like I until Liz explained herself, I didn't understand what she meant by that. Like, I don't remember him ever blowing up her game, but like I think maybe I don't know. But it was so funny, like that was one of the most iconic moments. The I'm pissed clip with Liz from season 46. I felt so bad, but that is like one of my yeah, just that cube to pick somebody else. He even said, like, she could eat this.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:01

Like, yeah, she hasn't eaten in 18 days, and she could eat this. So basically, I'm gonna go with Genesis. I'm gonna go again. Yeah, that was good. Oh that is a good one.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:18

That's kind of cute. That's a little bit of cue. I mean, he also like he had the Q skirt, he played hide and seek. Um, he he said he like they the castroids report and he decided to play hide and seek. And during that, he said, I can see everyone's personalities. By the way, they play hide and seek. I mean, he dressed like a kooky player, but I love him. And he did also like pretty he tried to quit, but then everyone voted for somebody else. It's kind of weird. Um he says he didn't quit.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:45

But he did. So he likes to tell people to vote for himself? He's done. Yeah, he does.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:49

He loves that exactly. Isn't that weird?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:51

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:52

Anyway, so that that's the Q story.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:55

Pretty accurate, you would pour one out for Q. I know he had a good run, and I was so glad it wasn't Ozzie.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:04

Can you imagine just being there? I do not want to see him.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:08

Well, I wondered, you know, that was my first question. I'm used to like drag race watch parties where the eliminated queens come and attend. And so I wondered, did they have pre-screeners? Did he know this was his week, his episode? Did they book him especially for that? I'm very glad you did not have to watch Ozzy get eliminated while Ozzie was in the room with you. And also just Ozzie get eliminated at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:31

Right, so true. So true. Uh, okay, well, I will talk to you next week. And I can't wait to hear where they're gonna go next, all of our little castaways, and what what's gonna happen with the chickens?

SPEAKER_03 1:16:46

Those chickens, I they're gonna keep me up at night until next Wednesday, and then probably even more so after I see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:57

Well, I will catch you next week on Missed by the Boat.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:03

That's two weeks in a row that you've called it missed by the boat.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:06

Why do I keep doing I think it's like in my head? Oh my gosh. It has a nice rhythm to it. We can we can see it does miss the boat. I don't know why I keep doing I know the name.