Survivor 50 Episode 6 "Blood Moon"

A red glow has been cast over this week's episode, signaling the "greatest twist in Survivor history..." or so they say. Lucas and Murjanatu may remain a bit unconvinced, but that doesn't mean they don't have thoughts to share!

Join Survivor newbie Lucas and his BFF Murjanatu as they react to the largest merge ever, a tasty reward, and three back-to-back eliminations!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to Mist the Boat, a Survivor First Watch podcast.

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Okay, okay. Well, your first time, Lucas. I'm a lifelong fan. I am Rajana too, one of your co-hosts, and your resident survivor super fan.

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And I'm Lucas, a survivor newbie.

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Each week I will guide my best friend here through Survivor as we react to the iconic season 50 together.

SPEAKER_02 0:23

This week, Survivor 50, episode 6, Blood Moon. Beware.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

I love the beware. Yes, this episode featured a couple things, a couple superlatives that I don't know if I would grant the show, but one of them was the biggest twist in survivor history. Lucas, what did you think about that?

SPEAKER_02 0:46

They, especially upon rewatch, were really hyping it up. And I even asked myself when Jeff first said, Here comes the biggest twist. I was like, Am I gonna be underwhelmed? In all, I wasn't underwhelmed, but I feel like they were making the castaways say, This is the biggest twist in Survivor history a lot. And I was like, maybe this is just part of Survivor 50 in and of itself. I wonder how much they just need to be letting the show and the game speak for itself instead of telling us how incredible and shocking and surprising everything is. Because I think on its own, this is very shocking and there's a lot to get into, but they're like almost trying too hard, maybe a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

No, I a hundred percent agree. I I think that Jeff and Team, I'm sure he's just the figurehead, are keep hyping things up, telling us I I couldn't believe specifically with that, and we'll get into details later, though. He had also said he went on this monologue on the blood moon, and then he also was like, the biggest reward of the season. And I'm like, bigger than Zach Brown? I thought Mr. Beast was about to come out, and then it was Applebee's, which they have every season. So I was like, what are you talking about? Like, you just made us watch a 20-minute video on Zach Brown, but this is the biggest reward of the season, Jeff, please.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Yes, yes. I went back and forth on this episode overall as well, just in terms of like, ooh, do I like survivors? So it'll be interesting to get into. I feel like, like I said, I flip-flop every week. I the jury is still out, but there's there's definitely a lot to get into. Should we start with Sila Tribe? And yeah, while we still have the tribes, um Rizzo kind of opens the episode. He is still just high on his own supply, nothing really new there. The main thing that I noted with Sela Tribe is that D and Jonathan, and on Rewash, this is a really interesting pairing to keep an eye on throughout the episode and where they go, where Dee is apologizing for blind sighting Jonathan, but she's like, I'm sorry, and thank you for taking it so well. Like, she does not sound sorry for blind sighting.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Yes, she doesn't sound sorry. Jonathan is upset again, like a blind side that people just may not calculate the con the consequences of what it looks like when you vote on somebody's number one.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

Mm-hmm. And interestingly, because Ozzy's bringing so much of his past baggage into his upset on the blind side, for Jonathan, he said he's never been in this situation before and he's disraught.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

Yeah, I feel like with Jonathan, he is trying so much harder this time. If you had known him in previous seasons, Lucas, he was kind of like when I say goes, like, don't disrupt what I'm thinking, like this is exactly like we're just gonna do this, let's just go forward. He was kind of like sweetheart meathead. And this time he seems so much more calculated, and you could even hear him talking to us and saying, like, this time I'm going to focus in on my game, and you can't just win, you can't get to the end only in challenges, you're not gonna win any votes. And I thought that was a really great take.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Yes, yeah. I am really liking Jonathan this episode. They are on the beach chatting, and Jonathan spots a boat, and everybody's freaking out. I feel like this is the first time we've seen this season the massive reaction that everybody has to a boat arriving, and then it's just male. And I was like, why wouldn't this just be tree mail? Like, why why a boat this time? Because it's merge. Okay, so the merge is always announced by boat.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

It is, I don't know, always. Uh, I think pretty frequently though. I think I'm sure I'm not sure if there's like a rule, but it isn't usually tree, like it is something exciting is happening. It's either a gym, I guess, or it's a merge.

SPEAKER_02 5:11

Because they they have to get in the boat. I guess that's the difference, right? Is that like it's a merge, so they're leaving the beach and the boat is coming to take them away.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Yeah, so it's happening like right now, scramble, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

And we we go to Kahlo very briefly, and Chrissy as well is freaking out about a boat. She says, Holy crap, I did not expect this. And Tiff is thrilled that they've made it to the merge. She is so excited, so happy that um, and this is a I think I said in the first episode, this is a piece of Survivor that I understand a little bit about. I understand that the merge is a big turning point in the season. So the players are definitely excited.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

It's a very exciting thing. It's something you can say, like, hey, I made it to merge. Now, I think we talked about this again in our first episode, where pretty much, I would say in like 80 to 85% of the episodes, if you make it to merge, you also make it to jury. Um, as we talk about in this episode, it is not the case here. You um jury is actually starting next episode. Um, and so it's but it's a big thing and just means like it's a mile marker in the game. Hey, at season 50, I made it to the merge. And this is by far one of the superlatives, I don't mind them telling us the biggest merge in history. Typically it's around 12 folks, and this time I think we're at 17.

SPEAKER_02 6:33

Yes, that was one of my questions initially was is 17 a normal number for the merge? And Emily pretty quickly says, No, this is the largest number they've ever had. And because of that, I feel like you do see production being like, well, we need to pretty quickly get these numbers down because it's exciting to say this is the largest merge in history, but it's not gonna last long. And we also need to take two players off of the board immediately for the day.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Yes, I actually wondered, okay, so let's go into the I first of all, I just love merge, like everyone is very happy. It used to be also before the new era that you had a merge feast that everyone got to take part in. It was just like a thing, and so you hear Ozzy actually referencing this. He's like, Is everyone having a merge feast without me? But um, we didn't have a merge feast this time, but it is just like so fun to see all these characters together, and immediately all of the information is spilt, like five minutes in.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

Well, and even I love how Vatu, as like the host beach or whatever, are like, we're getting visitors and they they're greeting everybody, but before everybody arrives, even Ozzie needs to make sure that information is secure. So he's telling Emily and Christian that he has an idol, he's like locking in with them. And this is where I realized I think you were exactly right last week, that Ozzie was just playing checkers and he was he was not trying to outsmart anybody. He trusts Christian now. Like he's like, Yes, we need to make sure we're all on the same page here before everybody else arrives. And I really enjoyed everybody coming together. And you don't, or I didn't realize, I guess, how little they are able to interact with each other in the challenges as they come together as tribes. Like, so they are all a lot of them acting like this is their first time seeing some of the others since they've got together at the start of the season.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

It's so interesting when you have like so many tribe swaps, but like you still don't meet some people or people that you've knew before you've been on a season with, and then you just like haven't gotten that luck, and you know, some people have the opposite of luck, like Genevieve and Aubrey, who are just like their fates are tied in a way they cannot stand. Um, and and so when you're at the merger, you're just seeing all these people come together. I know, like, you know, I was totally like Rezzo. He's seeing Ozzy and he's freaking out. He's like, oh my gosh, all of my favorite people. And I just I don't know, I love it. And but it is so funny how immediately everyone knows who has what idol. Like I don't it could be how it's edited, it seems like it happens in like 15 minutes that because of the nature of the Billie Eilish boomerang idol, everyone knows you know who it's not only the person who receives the idol, but the person who sends the idol, and so the information is kind of doubled there.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

And Genevieve gets confirmation from Siri that Aubrey has an idol and she's extremely vindicated. She's like, play it back. I called this, even though she was wrong at the time that she thought Aubrey had an idol. Like it's very funny the order of operations and the way that she thought incorrectly at the time and then was proven right with time that Aubrey has an idol, and then she's running around telling everyone, and then they are passing it around. The rumor mill is in full effect. I really enjoyed seeing everybody chatting about all of the idols and and sharing all of this information.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

The thing that was so interesting to me in this scramble of information was Rizzo going to Genevieve and being like, Yeah, I have an idol, you've sent it to me, right? How does he know? How does he know?

SPEAKER_02 10:13

I have no clue. He knew that Genevieve sent it to him, which is I guess I wonder if he's doing the calculations of maybe if he knows where the other two boomerang idols, like one came from each tribe, so he can narrow it down to like, oh, some Genevieve's tribe, someone there sent it to me, and he just guesses that it's her. But I think it's really smart gameplay from her to deny it and be like, no, you have an idol, I didn't know. So that, like she says, there's one boomerang idol out there that if Rizzo gets voted out, nobody knows where it came from and who it goes back to.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. Um rest in peace. Genevieve doesn't come to fruition.

unknown 11:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Yeah, and I guess that Genevieve and Rizzo were on the first initial tribe together. So, like, I don't remember seeing a ton of their bond, but maybe he just was like, Oh yeah, Genevieve's got my back, and that's the last island that I don't have. I mean, he's he like the thing about Rizzo is like he is pretty good at the game. It's just he won't shut up about how good he is, so like no one wants to give it to him.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

Yes. We also, you mentioned how Rizzo was so excited for everybody to be coming together and seeing all of these legends. I actually felt like Christian was such a great narrator and has been such a great narrator throughout the season. He's freaking out about like Coach and Chrissy and Colby and all of these icons, and excited, of course, to be back with Devins. I do feel like, and I was curious if you would agree, I feel like Christian has kind of become maybe the biggest like main character of the season. And that is, I think, just because he's such a great narrator.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah, I think so too. And that's why, like, I mean, I think we both were a little surprised. We thought he was gonna go home, you know, two weeks ago because he has had so much screen time that it seemed like, okay, they were like heavy loading it before he left. But he has, I wonder if there's a there's definitely a confessional count out there somewhere, but as much as like screen time and confessional time he has, I definitely think it's fair to say that he's the main character so far. I did like, though, in this episode, we did get so much more of uh folks we haven't heard from in a long time.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

Oh yeah, and we'll we'll get there. I have a note of that as well. There's somebody specifically that I'm like, oh this person has a personality that we didn't know that before this episode. Um, we also see them getting their new yellow buffs, and first of all, immediately, of course, in the hands of the brands, as soon as they see the yellow buffs, there's an ad popping up on the screen that's like, buy your merge buff for season 50 now. I know I did like how you could see them all sniffing them, and you were so right.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

They like are not getting new clothes, so they need they need a while we're and while we're talking about the buffs, I have to say, because I'm not sure it's gonna be relevant any other time. They brought out a new fashion standard for the buffs. The girls wearing them as if they are like mini mouse bows on top of their beds.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

I was obsessed. I loved that. Was another reason I was sad to see Genevieve go this episode because I loved it. To go home with that.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

To go home with the little mini mouse buff bow is so funny.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Uh we also, there's just so much happening in this first bit of the merge. Rick Devons and Aubrey are tight because he sent her the boomerang idol. And I really appreciated Devons kind of goes through or so he says I sent Aubrey the idol, and who knows this and who knows that. And this is the recap that I needed, but I need everybody to outline exactly what they know and who knows it. And we see the same thing with Joe later where he's like trying to outline who knows what. Do I need to pretend like I don't know that this person has an idol that and again immediately I was like, okay, Devin's outlined what he knows, but I'm lost again immediately.

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Yeah, there's so much to keep track of. I think just with how big this, like, so it is the biggest merge, but also it's just the biggest cast we've ever had. And so it is a little tricky to keep up with because you know, we when they show us confessionals in their talking heads, they have that lower third that says their name, their occupation, I think their first season of Survivor, and then what advantages they have, but it doesn't say like who knows what advantage anyone has. I don't even think for Christian it says like gifted the boomerang idol. You know, it's it's you have to remember a lot. And I was I was talking to my husband while we were watching this, and I was like, wow, I am having the hardest time recalling like what happened. But I think it's just like there's so much to keep track of.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Yes. Yes. We also have a little check-in on Ozzy. Speaking of this rumor mill, he is pissed that everybody knows that he has an idol. He's like, Well, what is the point of having an idol now? It's not a secret, everybody knows. Um, and he checks in with Suri, of course. Suri has her two number ones, Ozzy and Rizzo. She says she's in a poly relationship, and I am happy for her, but this poly relationship is like nightmare blunt rotation. Like, I this is not for me. I am at this point questioning Siri's judgment. And I know you're an Aussie girl, so that wins points in your book. But for me, Ozzy so far this season has been a little tricky, and Rizzo as well. I'm like, girl, these are your two number ones.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

That's so interesting. I just I think you are like, I did not read Ozzy as pissed about. I mean, he was like, ugh, like annoyed for sure about the items.

SPEAKER_02 15:58

But that I'm not counting against him. I I get it. I don't mean like he's being dramatic there. I just would also be upset if it was not a secret.

SPEAKER_00 16:06

Right. And then also, I just think that for for it's your nightmare, but it's it's Rizzo's dream. Like I'm like, he's probably freaking out. But um, I think that this is a really good spot for Sarie. She has these two, like, she has these men, two men who are pretty easily molded to her, and I think not anyone is suspecting they're her number ones. Like, I think she's a little bit more outward about her relationship with the women, and then she has these two guys in her back pocket that she knows aren't gonna betray her and will likely do whatever she says. I think it's a pretty good, good setup for Suri. Um, I think the person who this is the worst situation for is Ozzie.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Okay, yeah. And I don't even think it's bad. I think unlikely pairings can go really far. Um and I think that he like needs Suri's mind, but if they get to the final, who's gonna vote for Ozzie over Suri? If it happens to be those three as the final, everyone's gonna put their votes for Suri.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

That's a good point. Yeah. I'll be interested to see how this plays out. I just this would not be my trio if I could pick any three.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

Who I'm actually curious, now that we've had a little bit more time with all of the players, is there anyone you see yourself in a little bit more? I think I asked this in the first episode. I'm a little bit curious. Well, we're gonna talk about it, and you're saying, like, I wouldn't do this or that. I am curious who do you see yourself being like or being like maybe alliance with, but like also just like I align with them as a person.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

You know, we might get into this a little bit. I really liked Chrissy's gameplay this episode, and I think I see some of myself in Chrissy.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

I love that. I was I agree. I loved Chrissy's gameplay this episode.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

We also see Sari outlining the difference between kind of old era and new school, and she's like, in the new school era, in the new school players, they are willing to side and vote with their enemy for a couple of rounds to get the person out that they want to get out and then turn on them. Whereas old era, and we've said this before, is like kind of that honor and integrity of nope, I will not be malleable with my alliances, like I'm die hard for my people. I liked this the way that she portrays the difference there in the two different kinds of games. And I really think this episode overall is highlighting the difference and the divide between old school and new era, in or maybe it's is it old era and new school?

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah, old school, new era. Okay, I like to have written it both ways, and also, I mean, none of this is formal, so some one player might say right like the opposite, but yeah, that's how it's generally spoken about.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

I found that this whole episode is really highlighting the divide between those two different groups of players, and it really the last thing we see here before um the next twist is Jonathan and D pairing up. They seem to be pretty tight. They talk about how they plan to play both sides, but I really think we see Jonathan and D both faced with this decision between how they interact with the old school and new era players and what decisions they make from there. So I'm just putting a pin in kind of lines are more and more being drawn, I think, between those two eras of the game.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Oh, I think especially in this episode, I think what's interesting is like old school, new era, like it's not actually based on when you played. I think this is kind of lending to what you said. Like, we'll we'll talk about this later with Jonathan, but like Jonathan and Joe are often lumped into the old school when they have, especially Joe, has played the most recently. Yeah. And so it isn't it's that feeling and the way you play the game that Suri is describing, rather than when you like literally logged in. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Yeah, totally. So we get more mail. There's a twist hidden in the jungle, they are all running around on this scavenger hunt, and Devin sees Aubrey up on top of some rocks and calls her a mountain goat. He's like, I didn't even know you could get up there. Rizzo. That surprised me too. Rizzo is just walking along, um, stops right in front of the the twist and doesn't see it. Um, but what I liked about this in hindsight is that he was going to Exile Island either way. Like, right. If he had found it, he would have been exiled. And even though he doesn't find it, he his his fate is the same this episode.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

It's so funny how lazy he is. Like he's just like, yeah, I mean, it works out in his favor this time, right? Like, or I guess it doesn't, but it could have, because the twist actually ends up being negative, which is, I think the first time we've had this situation, usually you get an advantage where maybe you're also exempt, and I guess it is a little bit of an advantage, but you might be exempt from the merge, but you're you're sitting on the bench, you're not like not participating at all.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

I do think this is an advantage for Ozzy and Rizzo on the whole. Like, this is probably the the most dangerous night to survive in the whole season. And so getting to sit it out, like, yeah, they're on exile island, but I think for the whole, they actually are. Are in a pretty good position. I agree. There are a couple things I noticed or just made note of throughout this scavenger hunt. Poor Colby. We see him just kind of like hobbling along on the search. I felt really bad for him. And his foot injury is a recurring kind of piece of this episode. And then Christian, again, main character energy is.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

He was cracking me up. Like I was like, that is how you look for it. And I just thought, like, through every watching everyone scramble. I like these moments and just seeing how people are reacting to finding this piece. And Ozzy, when he he finds it, he stumbles upon it. He is so excited. He's like, my first time playing this game for 10 years. I find something. And he's like, oh, get it's gonna say like you're going to exile. And he is correct. That was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

I thought it was funny because I think you realize the confessional where he's like, yay, I found it. He's sitting on exile island, I think, at the time that they filmed that. So I enjoyed cutting back to it and realizing, like, oh, poor Ozzy. But again, I actually think on the whole, he's probably better off for having gone to exile. He takes Rizzo with him. He has to pick somebody and he's like, who's the one odd man out? Who do we not know anything about? It's Rizzo. Conveniently, these are also like Sari's two boyfriends, like eloping for the night. Like, I which reminded me of the um, there's I think it's Parks and Rack. They're like, I want two boyfriends and I want my boyfriends to be boyfriends. Like they're poly couple, they're like going off for the evening.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Yeah, this is my boyfriend and his boyfriend. Yeah. And they are so yeah, I and I I thought it was actually a really good move on Ozzy, who's not always known as the best social player, to be like, I don't want to be making an enemy, I don't want to be solidifying an alliance in the eyes of other people, at least.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

I'm gonna take Rizzo, who is kind of like, how can I get to know him a little bit better and understand maybe his threat level? Because they were not on the same beach at any point. So I I think it was actually a really smart move. And you're right, like it is an advantage to be an exile to just survive this night. I just think at this time we just have they have no idea what's happening. Like, are they just having a merge feast right now, like Ozzy says at some point? Are they going to a challenge? And we know, like they have they're having a blood moon, it's not fun. But um, yeah, I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

We see just like one scene of Ozzie and Rizzo after this on Exile Island, and they are, to your point, I think this is a great opportunity for them as Cerese two number ones to establish their own relationship and alliance here and and share information. Ozzie is also like, you know what? I'm just gonna turn this into a spa day. He's just like swimming and chilling and enjoying the time um on Exile Island, and so I um I think I'm happy for him. This is overall probably a pretty good episode for him.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

I agree. And I was, you know, the thing is they always kind of make fun of Ozzie for like he's not on the beach talking, he's like in the water, and I'm like, uh, like if I went on Survivor, I would just want to be swimming like the entire time and probably get voted out first because I'm just like hanging out. And I was kind of happy for Ozzie that he just gets one of those like chill moments that he's like, well, no one's gonna be able to vote me out, like Rizzo can't ski with anyone. Like, Ozzie's gonna be in the water no matter what, but at least this time he wasn't punished for it.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Yes, yes. We then go to the challenge. Here is where I'm like, Jeff is really talking this up. Am I gonna be underwhelmed? And the twist is the blood moon. He has, as you mentioned, his monologue where he talks about how ancient civilizations feared the blood moon and you should too. And I didn't love the B role that they're playing over this of supposed ancient civilizations like worshiping or like um, I don't even know, celebrating the blood moon. No, yeah, like we don't know what they're doing. These these are assuming assumedly the same people who are filming these like demo challenges. I'm like, what is this? You're having like it just felt a little bit of like exoticism, and I just I felt a little bit icky about some of the way this b-roll was made.

SPEAKER_00 27:08

Yeah, that I think that's totally fair. I mean, even like the the Survivor theme song has been pretty much the same, I think, since 2000. So we've kind of like let it pass, but I mean it's like some random chanting, like it that could be anything, like, and um I agree, like I I I felt a little uncomfortable. I just thought it was he was talking for so long, too. And I don't know, it just felt very like forced. I think you maybe just have like a three tribal, or not even tribal, because it like it's a merge. So that's so it's so fun when they go from three tribes to merge, which is really just three tribes again. Yes, but exactly.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

I was like, they just wanted to not that this is why they did it, but like one tribe was getting so much smaller than the others, and so now they're like, okay, we're gonna bring you all together and then just split you up into three equal groups of five again.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Like, yeah, it's interesting. I kind of wondered if the whole exile thing happened because Kyle was men of act, like if originally it was supposed to be.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

Oh, three tribes of six or three groups of six. Yeah, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

I I could see that I have no idea, but I was like, it just seems a little random to have like two people, like what you get to choose one. I also just don't love how much luck is involved at this point. And this is a conversation later in the episode, but when it's just like we're drawing rocks and we're ending up in these little groups, and like you either win or you lose, like that. I don't know. I I kind of wish like what if Ozzie's advantage was picking the groups that went up against each other, like he got to figure out what was going on. And maybe he was in exile.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

It's interesting, it's interesting you say that because I also felt this challenge is not only wild, and we see that they've done it before, it's not a new survivor, but it is completely physical. Again, I could not go on survivor without starting to go to the gym first because what the heck? And I felt bad for the less athletic players, and this is where I felt like they should have been able to put themselves into their own groups of five, you know, like have compete amongst like a level, a more level playing field with it being so random. As you mentioned, even with that randomness, Genevieve and Aubrey still are stuck together, which I was like, is this completely random? Like, right, maybe fate has just deemed it so. But I really would have been interested to see, like you said, if Ozzy had gotten to choose the groups of five, or if they, without knowing like what it might be, but they're like get into groups of five. We get the reward though. You talked about this Applebee's. I don't know that Applebee's looked pretty good. Like, if I were Liz, I'd be begging too.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

I just it's funny, it does it did look really good. Like, I was like, Oh, maybe I should go to Applebee's. Yeah, and I was like, girl, do not let it work on you. Remember, we're against the like commercialization of Survivor. But I was like, that's that looks so good. I mean, to me, it looks better than Zach Brown, but I'm just like, do not make me waste my time with Zach Brown. And he also and Jeff also talked about Applebee's for so long. They really are like 90-minute episodes, man. Let's just, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

Right, right. I don't know though. That that Applebee's, I feel like it gets a bad rap just in general as a restaurant, but I love a good day in the neighborhood. Like it same, and it came with a cocktail. That's the biggest part, that's the best part of the reward, which we'll get there.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

And those cocktails were hitting. That was so funny.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

As you mentioned, normally merge means you've made it to the jury. Not the case here. They still have to survive tonight. And I'm still, I think I'm getting, as we go, a better understanding of how the jury works. They get up on the boards, planks, footholds, and this is I I really felt like a capital citizen watching the Hunger Games during this challenge. I did not enjoy watching this. I was like, I feel like we are just torturing people for our entertainment. Like, I didn't love this.

SPEAKER_00 31:20

That is so funny. Yeah, I mean, this is a this is a a challenge as old as time. I don't even think about it anymore. It's funny that you say the athletic thing, because I actually don't it, I mean, there's different types of athleticism, but it is one of the challenges where those giant men very rarely win. You know, and Christian is definitely not one of the most athletic people there. I mean, I could I don't know what his regiment was going into that the game, but I will say it's it's interesting because it is a little bit more torturous, but I don't necessarily think athleticism is the number one determining factor here.

SPEAKER_02 31:59

I do, I do agree, and I had a feeling that size would be an issue. I actually made um predictions. I was like, I felt like Joe was gonna win for the purple team. I felt like D was gonna win for Teal and Chrissy for Orange because I think you're like part of it is literally the size of your feet on the footholds is gonna be an advantage if they're smaller. Um and with Christian, I loved how his every time they cut back to him, like his hips would be cocked to it from side to side. And I get it, you need to like keep your joints moving, but he was giving poses. I I I enjoyed Christian. And then Emily Falls. Here, this is the other thing again, which is like not only is this like just a test of enduring physical pain, but then Emily Falls, that looks like it really hurt. I was worried for her, and then she has to sit there like a loser. Like she's the first one down. They eventually all have to do this, but the way they don't let her like get up and leave, she just has to sit there. Was right like shame. I I just felt bad for these players. And Jonathan Falls again. I figured his size would probably be a downfall. Colby, again, I'm like, you are messing these people up physically.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

Like, I agree. I I do want to just articulate that I'm I'm aligned to especially like I just don't know why they can't have a nice thing to fall down on. Like if they just had like a torn-up looking mat, even like I just poor Kobe who is struggling with his feet. Like, this seems terrible. I can't believe Emily didn't beat him though. But but anyway, but then and he just you know, you just fall, and I'm like, I don't know. Like, if you don't want people to be medivaxed, can't we just make it a little more soft of a landing? Even sand below them, just something to take off that shock. I I don't get it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

This is they start talking about how they'll win the reward for the group. I didn't realize that at first. I I must just kind of tune out when Jeff, I think there was just too much, as you mentioned, too much yapping, too much talking at the start of this. So things kept coming as a shock to me throughout the challenge and even after. I was like, oh, it's not just like an individual winning Emila Applebee's. This is this is for the group. And I was right that D won for her group. They don't win overall. Christian does win for his group, and then Orange, they have like the top three. They are all still in it to win it. Um, the editing of like that final two was really intense. And I was proud of Chrissy as the runner-up. Like, so yeah, this episode, I was really rooting for Chrissy. I think she's becoming the one that maybe I'm identifying with the most.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

No, I mean, the thing that's interesting about this too, with the the challenge, a lot of times this this is not the first time we have done, I think, even this specific challenge or any like kind of a neurons challenge, and then the whole team gets to go. I did appreciate that the people who had like the overall longest time are the ones who got to get the Applebee's. Like a lot of times, like Emily and Kobe were out really quick, right? Like, if their person wins, it just feels like okay, random and annoying that they they get a reward. I did appreciate that there was that little rivalry between Stephanie and Christy. And I was like, way to go. I mean, they're the two oldest women in the game, and it's pretty cool to see them be up there for so long, besides me.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

And the way all of these winners are like limping up to get their necklaces. I felt so bad for them. But this is where I noted we are finally hearing more from Tiffany. Tiff, I feel like has not had a lot of screen time so far. We're finally hearing more from her. She's like, um, and we go to Sanctuary with her group, and she's like, at least I can do it with alcohol in my system. Like, they get the cocktail, which exactly, girl, I agree. She talks about how in this group of five, they're all out with their guns out. Like, you can't hide in such a small group heading to elimination. So um, I really enjoyed seeing more of Tiffany this episode as well.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

No, me too. I I mean, honestly, with that, this I was sad that they also had to go to tribal. It's rare that you like get this reward and then have to go against these same people. I love that Chrissy's like, let's just I love how she just like lays down, but she's like secretly like looking to us like I'm not laying down. Um, but it's interesting. I the one thing I was the most sad about this group, I was like, uh, one boy, four girls, get him out, ladies. Get out this giant challenge beast. Bamboo.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Now because you've made it to the merge.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

Yeah, now that you made it to the merge, we're like, that's a threat and not like a good thing. I was like, all right, like let's get him out. I was so disappointed that they didn't even like it didn't, it wasn't even part of the conversation.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

Yeah. Well, and I don't really understand. Tiff is knives out for Chrissy. She's like, she has not wanted to play with me since day one. She is not gonna be on my jury. Like, I don't want her near my chapter two of Survivor 50. I don't really get it. And maybe that's just because, again, Tiv hasn't had enough screen time in the first five episodes, but her enmity for Chrissy is coming out of nowhere, seemingly to me. And again, maybe just because I'm identifying with Chrissy this episode, I didn't love that as her target.

SPEAKER_00 37:41

And sometimes I think people just get so set and like this is who we said it was gonna be in the very first tribal. Let's just do it. Like, I'm you know, someone person we decided is on the outs. And we did at least see that. We didn't see Tiffany's perspective of that. But Tiffany and Chrissy were on that first speech where people were finding Chrissy a little bit annoying and or a little too mom-like. I you know, I don't, yeah, and so maybe she's just like, Yep, I want to get rid of her. And you, you know, you hear Jonathan say the same thing, he's lying, but it's interesting. Sometimes people just aren't really willing to give that up. And maybe Chrissy didn't want to work with Tiffany. I have no idea, but also maybe Tiffany didn't want to work with Chrissy when she was like, Well, we all line, you're the you're the first, you're the first boot. Like, why would I spend time cultivating that relationship?

SPEAKER_02 38:26

That's a good point. Yeah. I will also just say before we leave the sanctuary here, I literally wrote this reward is definitely a huge advertisement, but it's working on me. Like, I was like, Where is the nearest Applebee's? Like, I go with you. Thank you. I'm looking that up. I'm in the mood for a shark bowl now.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

Oh my gosh, I was cracking on my Jonathan, like playing with his gummy shark. I'm like, I believe he also commenters can fact check to me. I believe he also got pretty drunk in a past episode, his first season.

SPEAKER_02 39:06

So we go to the old Kahlo Beach, which is where Devons, Christian, Aubrey, Joe, and Genevieve are deliberating before tribal. And I didn't realize this is another thing I just did not hear Jeff say the first time around, that their groups of five were also going to tribal separately. I think it would be interesting if they had stayed in the group of 17 or 15 and had your three individual immunity people, but then you just all have to decide where you're voting, and maybe it's like just the three players who get the most votes out of the whole group. Like it would have been interesting. Instead, this is kind of more of the same formula of three tribes all going to tribal separately.

SPEAKER_00 39:53

But it's the biggest twist, Lucas. I don't know. Isn't it just not a huge twist? It's just like an additional version of what we've seen before. Well, I mean, I guess it is that all three go, but like it is interesting that they there weren't the twist didn't seem super creative for being the biggest twist in survivor history.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

Yes. Well, this is again, fate just has it out for these two ladies. Genevieve and Aubrey are in the same group. Aubrey says she is dead set on surviving the blood moon. She's using her idol tonight. And so Genevieve and Joe kind of know that they are the two on the outside because you've got Devons and Christian, and Devons sent Aubrey her idol. So I thought this was interesting. I was like, Genevieve, why are you targeting Devons and trying to loop in Christian? Like you think Christian is the swing, don't you know that they are best friends? But I like that she does know, and she's using that relationship against them. I think, yes, it is a last ditch attempt. She is flailing to try and save herself, but I think it's a good last chance to be like Christian. You are tied to a sinking ship. Everybody knows that you two are like each other's number ones, and it's really hard for anybody else to work with you. And I so I appreciated that from Genevieve. I also loved that Christian like played along just to blindside her. I think I this was good gameplay all around, I thought.

SPEAKER_00 41:21

I agree. I think that Genevieve did her very best um to get out of the situation. I do think in another world, like maybe she should have probably just gone on Joe versus trying to swap it on to Devons. I just like she just probably had again, she hadn't played with them before. I don't think she understood how close they were. They weren't from the same season. She has, you know, she's on the same beach. So when they were on the same beach together, and so Joe at least knows Christian and Devons are tight. And Joe was probably keeping it close to his chest, but he had some beef with Devons. And so he's probably like, hmm, let me just like stay quiet and vote for Genevieve and hope for the best. And I and I think that works.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

I think Genevieve, like with Genevieve's game, like, I think she just plays this overall really well. I loved how she tried her best, and then she goes, you know what though? What are the chances I convinced Christian? Do you think it's better than one in six? I was like, that is a great line. That is a great strategy. I'm glad that you're playing your shot in the dark. Man, if she had hit that and she, I don't know what would have happened if she hit that. I think they all would have to vote again. It would probably be Joe. But uh that was like good TV.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

And I liked in Tribal how Genevieve was talking so candidly about like how people were gonna vote for her and she has this conflict with Aubrey. I in general, this episode, I feel like people are just talking a lot more straight shooter about what's happening and who's voting for who um and knowing that they're the target. I actually thought before we saw the votes that the tribe felt pretty scattershot in terms of like who they might vote for. Obviously, Devons is thinking about Joe and Genevieve's trying to get out. Like it, I just thought it was interesting, and I wondered what would happen if everyone voted for a different person. And again, that is probably would that ever happen in Survivor where everybody goes like one to the left basically, and nobody gets more than one vote? Like, would you just re-vote? What would they do?

SPEAKER_00 43:32

Because someone has immunity, and now that we're in immunity, um we can't, you can't truly vote for a person to your left because you can't vote for Chris.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

So somebody would have to double up. Okay. That answers my question. So we see to your point, Genevieve, using her shot in the dark, it's uh it's not her actually like rolling the die in the voting booth. She like gives a scroll and doesn't, I guess there's a chance, there's a one in six chance the scroll would have been safe. I did wonder in this moment as well, though. Aubrey is gripping her idol for dear life. She said she was going to play her idol no matter what. But I guess she has a chance or time to make that decision that, like, if Genevieve had been safe, she then could have played her idol. Like, she gets to make more of an informed decision there on like, oh, if Genevieve's safe, then I'm a bigger risk.

SPEAKER_00 44:25

Like, yeah. I just really hate the I'm gonna play my idol and then not like I just I get it. Like it's a great way to use it's how Rizzo got to the end of season 49. Um, but like to me, it's just so cheap. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

Um it I don't think I don't think she's being dishonest when she says that though. I think it's only once she sees that, like, oh, we are all going for Genevieve, and she sees that Genevieve isn't safe that she's like, okay, never mind. I think she is considering it, but maybe only would have played it if Genevieve had been safe.

SPEAKER_00 45:04

Oh, yeah, I did like that. I did like the kind of Western like she has her hand on her bottle. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I felt when it was all Genevieve though, I was a little surprised. Like that did that did hurt a little when everyone voted for her.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

Yes, I did feel bad for her. And Aubrey didn't look happy, like it wasn't a happy victory, I felt like. And she gives Aubrey her coat as maybe a final peace offering. But yes, I I actually wrote the same thing, is that like Joe voted for her too. Like he's a little, he's a little sneaky.

SPEAKER_00 45:44

I think he just knew more than she did how she like how close Devons and Christian were. I think that was the main thing there. He's just like, there's no world where you're gonna go for Devons, and I'm the alternative, you know, if the other person has an idol and the other person's safe. And so, like, yes, he's sneaky, but I I felt like it wasn't like it wasn't manipul it was it made sense. Like, I understand if he didn't do that, it would have been dumb, right? But it was it was an interesting, I mean, that trouble was I really thought Genevieve was gonna go really far, and it just feels like it was the luck of the draw who sent her home. And I mean, it was an interesting conversation where Genevieve's like talking about the luck, like you said, very open. And Aubrey's like, well, if you had crafted your relationships, you maybe wouldn't be in this situation, you know, like it's luck, but you know, I have relationships. I just didn't feel like that was super fair because I felt like Aubrey was the one who was so prickly towards Genevieve, and she's just lucky that you know she was on a season with Devons and that Christian wanted to send her an idol. Like that isn't really relationship, you know. I don't think there's a world where Genevieve could have I don't know, maybe she could have tried a little bit harder with Aubrey. She did, she did target Aubrey, so I guess that's that's fair.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

And I I think similar in some ways to Charlie becoming so dead set on getting Rizzo out that it actually like messes with his gameplay. Genevieve as well is doing everything she can to discredit Aubrey in a way that she's so narrow-minded and single-focused that like I think it it bites her in the butt a little bit by the end. Totally.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

I think you're right. Yeah. We just sad. She just did not expect it. Their fates were just tied. Because I'm sad about losing Genevieve. Tell me, what did you think about Genevieve?

SPEAKER_02 47:34

I looked at her photo when I first met Genevieve and I said, Why am I getting Linda from Strategy and Planning vibes? For anybody who has seen the recent send help film, I was like, I feel like she loves a spreadsheet and could also be pretty dangerous.

SPEAKER_00 47:51

And so I that is an interesting take.

SPEAKER_02 47:55

I'm I stand by it. I'm happy with that. I feel like in a true send help situation, she might go a little bit Linda. In in maybe some of the good ways.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

No spoilers, but that is so funny. I didn't I think of her as like a pretty cool girl. Like, I don't think of her like yeah, I think she's pretty yeah, pretty cool, knows what's up, she's just a little intense. But maybe that's more in like she would she would be in the she would not be manipulated in the way Linda can be, I don't think, ever.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

True. That's that's fair.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

Yeah, that's funny. Okay, that's great. Well, now let's let's go to our other tribals. I think just you know, we're a little out of order now, so just if you bear with us, that was actually the second tribal we saw, but the first group we went home with.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

Yes. Let's go now to the old Sila camp, which is um D and Sari and Emily and Colby and Coach. Clearly, to everybody here, Colby and Coach are the ones on the chopping block. And D loves being in control. She wants Coach and Colby to be her puppies. She wants to make them dance for her and like she loves being in control here. Now, Coach, of course, is like, well, I need to throw Colby under the bus. He calls him a sitting duck, but then while trying with D to throw Emily under the bus as well, he's like, Oh, Emily said you're the first person she wants to get out. D's like, well, then why didn't you tell me this before?

SPEAKER_00 49:40

I think that two things are first of all, like, yeah, like Coach is trying so hard to play this new game, and he's having a very hard time with it. But also, I think he forgot. So I don't know if you know this. Emily and D were on their first season together. Um and so they're friends. Like they, I believe they work together until the end. I'm not 100% sure on that. Like, you know, D1, I believe Emily voted for her. So it is a funny thing for him to say. Like, I just think he completely miscalculated the situation.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

And I love that D doesn't believe it at all, and she knows that he's lying, and she calls him, she like subtly calls him out for it, and it's just like, why wouldn't you tell me this before? I love her and Emily like debriefing about it. And um, Emily's like, that was such bad gameplay. Is he trying to like outsmart us? Does he want us to think that he's like this bumbling kind of um not thinking things through person? And I think Emily is giving Coach way too much credit here. This is I don't think he is trying to put on an act, he's just making a mistake.

SPEAKER_00 50:49

It's a very two weeks ago with the Aussie, like where we're like, is he playing checkers or chat? Like, like where we thought he was maybe like playing a higher game than he actually was. And um, actually, was that last week?

SPEAKER_02 51:03

I think that's last week, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:04

Oh, I keep saying two weeks ago because two people went to tribal, and I'm like, okay. Well, last week, that reminds me of last week where with uh Ozzy. I think what we're seeing is kind of the conversation we had last week where it's just these like old school players who are really like personalities trying to win a million dollars versus these like strategists who are like thinking through everything, and you know, they're really playing a game in a way that's different than these old school players who are yes, playing the game, but you know, like coach has a really hard time like doing the calculations to play a strategist's game.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 51:47

Well, and speaking of that strategy though, Emily is then like, well, Colby's gonna get Medibacked anyway, so let's go for Coach and kill two birds with one stone, which I love. I think that's cold and kind of cruel, but like very calculated. And D's on board until she talks to Sari. And I love this. Sari says, Do you gamble? D's like, no, and she's like, then why are you trying to gamble right now?

SPEAKER_00 52:14

Gagner. I love it. I know that was good. I mean, Suri is just so masterful, and again, her name's not on anyone's lips right now, like no one's speaking about it.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

I know, but I think this is really good gameplay from Suri. I enjoy seeing her strategic mind here where she says, Why would you cut off the tail of the snake when you could cut off the head? Colby is the leader of that group. Like, it does not make sense to gamble and and throw away this opportunity to get Colby out. And Colby then is going to D. And again, this is another example of people just talking very blatantly to what's happening. He's like, the way I see it, Coach and I are interchangeable, like you're gonna vote for one of us. And he talks straight to D about it. But I like that he comes with Sari's argument and is using it to his own advantage, where he's like, I'm the leader of this group, save me, and I'll get them on your side. And so I think again, good gameplay from Colby. He's doing a good job of talking straight to the problem and doing what he can. Again, it's a last ditch effort to keep himself in.

SPEAKER_00 53:23

I think it's so interesting. Colby is so, I hate saying this word, but like he is so articulate. Like he you forget, you think he might just be like a I don't know, like challenge beast type old man, but he like he can connect with people really well and like explain what he's thinking and like how it makes sense. And I think like it's really just D trying to figure out like what makes the most sense for her game, for Emily's game, or like at least not burning a bridge with Emily since she's a little bit dead set. It's scenes on Coach in this moment. I don't really know what happens and changes from here the these conversations to tribal. I think Cerie's argument had the most legs to it. But I I really am excited to talk about this tribal, Lucas.

SPEAKER_02 54:11

Yes, we get to tribal with this group, and I liked that Colby and Coach both had to ignite their torches since this is their first time going to tribal council, knowing that one of them is going to be immediately snuffed the same night. But this tribal overall is really touching and really emotional. Jeff even says, like Emily and D would not be here without you, Colby, Sari, and Coach. It's um it's really emotional. They're kind of reflecting on their legacies and and their time in the game up until this point, and I found it pretty emotional.

SPEAKER_00 54:48

Oh, I was sobbing. So, first of all, I love like you said when they walked in, Kobe's like, I love what you've done with the place, Jeff. Like, this is great. And you can see like the friendship between those two. I mean, Kobe was on season number two, so he is he has known Jeff. I mean, they've had a tumultuous relationship at some points, but I think I think now they're friends. And I I just thought this whole tribal council set was so touching. Like, in the same way, Kobe's talking about how many people I'm like getting emotional talking about, like how many people he knows, people in her in his life that he loves dearly that he only has because of Survivor. And like my husband and I met on Bumble, but the first thing we talked about was our conversation kind of went like what wasn't going great. And so then we talked about Survivor and the our first date. We watched Survivor, and like it's like I just like sitting here in my beautiful home, and you know, with the love of my life, and I'm like, oh, Survivor brought me my partner, and it brought Cere and Kovey and Coach, like these beautiful like lives that you know, what an adventure it's been for them. And this is the first time I was like, should I play Survivor? Like, I love this game so much, and it just it means so much to me. And I'm like, should I give back in that way of like playing? I know so many people, like, but I just I was crying a lot. I was just like, This is this is this means a lot to me. My relationship with my dad has changed so much, and like watching this with him, I'm just like, oh, I I love Survivor. I thought it was a beautiful send-off. Like at this point, we're not 100% sure who's going home, but I was like, whoever it is, like this is a beautiful swan song.

SPEAKER_02 56:23

Yeah, it it is, and I really it seemed like Sari felt really bad about having to vote for Colby in this moment. Like she is crying through a lot of this, and um, this is I agree, a pretty, a pretty touching farewell. I also was distracted at one point. I think this is after they all vote and they come back to tally the votes. Dee just looked so beautiful in her immunity necklace, and her hair was like golden, and I just had to give a shout out. I was like distracted by all of the emotions for a moment by just how beautiful Dee looked in her necklace.

SPEAKER_00 56:59

So And speaking of D, she's like, I just feel so guilty. Like, even like Jeff says, like, you wouldn't be here without these two. She does fact check, she lies about her age because me and me and Dee are the same age, and we were, I think, six when Kobe played. And she says three, yeah, and she says three, and I was like, there's no way Dee's younger than me. She is younger than me by like a couple months, but I was like, girl, don't be ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 57:29

I as they tallied the votes, I actually did feel this was a little bit underwhelming just because everybody votes for Colby in a way that I was like, at least I wanted two votes for Coach to increase the tension. Like I wanted to go back and forth. And then I realized that is impossible because Colby didn't have a vote. So like only one person could have voted for um coach, and it wouldn't have been Colby anyway, because he didn't have a vote. So this is like he, in terms of gameplay, is like injured, doesn't have a vote, is just kind of as coach said, a sitting duck. However, on the whole, this is a a really good exit, I think, for Colby. He's really going out on an emotional high and on this note of like gratitude and legacy that um is is really touching.

SPEAKER_00 58:18

Yeah, I thought so too. I and I thought it was like, you know, it's a w not ending our episode, but it did end the show's episode. And I thought that was just beautiful. I just I I I would love an old school person to win 50 just because it's so many, I think it's probably it's very likely their last time playing these folks. They're they're getting up there in age and like and so I just think it would be a very beautiful, like, I don't know, like nod to that era to like let them, I don't know, to have one of them win versus one of these new people who can hopefully play many more times and like bring in that new era. But I'm like, I kind of want this to be a send-off to the to the old era.

SPEAKER_02 59:04

Well, maybe our winner is in the next group, the the group who won the reward and stayed on the Manu Levu, which is the new, I don't think we've said that. The merge tribe is now the Manu Levu tribe. Um, and so maybe the person who is spared tonight is Chrissy. Should maybe she's our winner. I I would love that.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

Excellent gameplay by Chrissy this episode. I mean, going in and saying, like, you know what, guys, I just don't want it, I don't want any hard feelings. Like she plays the mom card a little bit. She's like, let's just have joy. And meanwhile, she is playing in.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

And I I bought it hook, line, and sinker the first time I was watching. She was like, I really just want to leave with all of us being friends. And she's like getting emotional. She's like, I don't want to cry. And again, I at first I was like, I love how she's going right up to the people that she knows are voting for her. And she's like, I'm not gonna tell you not to vote for me. I understand it's not personal. And then we go to confessional and she's like, I don't think that's gonna happen. And she goes to Jonathan. Love it. She knows he's the swing vote, and she's like, Listen, those girls are using you, and neither one of them will vote for you in the final. And I was like, dang, she is like.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:19

I love how she's like, you and I cut from the same cloth, you and me, Aquaman.

unknown 1:00:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

And he really does vibe with the old school people. So this is the thing where I mentioned, like, D has this choice that Colby's presenting her of like, I'm offering you this alliance with the old school team if you save me. She rejects it. Chrissy is like, we are cut from the same cloth. Jonathan really vibes with the old school people, and he really has to choose between old school and new era. And so, if, and this is what I decided or was thinking about, if he decides to vote out Camilla, he's gonna drive a wedge between himself and Tiff. And this, just before this group goes to tribal, I felt the editors do a really good job of distilling down the conflicts into digestible stories, like identifying those inflection points, who's the decision maker in a given vote. You have D as the inflection point in her group and Jonathan in his and documentary filmmaking, which really that's what reality TV is, is very difficult. And I think I just wanted to give a shout out to the editors for doing what they can to make these stories easy to follow.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:35

Right. And I think like ultimately, I do think Chrissy's argument works, but they did blindside Jonathan by voting out Charlie the night before. Where it seemed like obvious Rezzo is a good choice, like again, Rezzo gets another day, but I think that he's just like, yeah, why why would I vote for like I don't have that trust? I know even if we do cut actually down, you know, new era, old school, I'm gonna be the first of the new era to leave. If I jump ship with these people that I'm actually vibing with, which is again what I love about Survivor, like sometimes we as the viewer don't always get to see just like the connection points people have. Like, just sometimes you connect with people and you're like, yeah, it makes more sense for me to ride with this person I actually vibe with, even though I've like been on a tribe with someone else or was on the same season as someone else, you know? And I just I don't know. I I I actually liked what Jonathan did, even though I wanted the girlies to like get him.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

I know I actually am kind of on Jonathan's side here as well. I think you're right, the blind side definitely plays into it. And Camilla, you know, has been my girl. Honestly, I'm we'll get into it. We go to tribal. And my reaction, I think, was not what I kind of expected. But before that, Tiff is excited about the Blood Moon. And I just want to shout out a fellow Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild player. She was talking about her favorite game, and she doesn't name it, but listen, I know that blood moon when when I hear about it. So I loved that. And then I didn't notice this the first time, but the second time I watched, Camilla must also be a player because she is like smiling and nodding, and she's like, Yes, and I I loved that on rewatch.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:22

I know. I I did not know what she was talking about, but I was hoping you would. So that's fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:28

Yes, yes. And then we get to the vote, and Camilla is not happy. She's like, bro, and then she looks at Tiff, her her girl, her ally, and she says, drag that man through the mud.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:44

I loved that. I I thought it was so funny. Her reaction was like, bro, like she just did not expect that to happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:53

And I found, and maybe it's because it was a blind side, her her reaction to me was a little bit like, oh, some people are like, wow, good game. Like maybe like Mike White. I was expecting more of like a oh dang, but she is not, she's she's not happy about it. She's not gonna pretend to be happy about it. Um, we and I I felt bad for Camilla, but in hindsight and even watching her be eliminated, I don't feel like her gameplay won me over this season the way that I wanted it to. Like I and some of that is the rift that she drove between herself and Charlie in the last episode. So I wasn't actually that devastated. I know I said episode one, she was my winner, but watching this happen, I was like, no, that's that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:39

Well, I think what I'm frustrated about was it feels like I don't know. I feel like usually you the people who are quieter in the first half, it's because they have such a strong second half. And so that's kind of how I felt about Angelina. I didn't think she was gonna go home because we just haven't heard a lot from her. Same thing with Camilla. I was just like, oh well, like I don't know how it's gonna shake out, but probably not Camilla because we haven't gotten to see her. I'm sure there was gameplay, but she also only went to Tribal the once. So I mean that's that's part of it as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:14

Yes, yeah. I I did feel at least in her exit interview, like she has a love for the game. And she actually did. She was like, oh, it's kind of fun to be played, like to be blindsided. So I liked that as a kind of final note for her to go out on. I do wonder how much they don't want you to be able to like guess the game by reading into the editing, you know, by being like, Oh, they're they're not getting enough screen time, so they must be coming up later. I wonder if they don't want people to try and outsmart or be able to outsmart the the editing.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:48

I I agree. I think that is part of it. I think also maybe it's just like when you're talking about this really tight narrative that's easy to follow, like we're just maybe. Not seeing a lot of the stuff Camilla did because it might not have actually had a consequence on why she was ultimately voted out.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

Yeah. Yeah. Well, the lines have been drawn. Jonathan has decidedly stepped into the old school's camp. And Tiff, when they all come back now to the merge group, like I was just thinking about how Tiff is not going to be happy. I think that this is going to drive that wedge between Jonathan and Dee that we saw them forming that bond at the beginning of the episode. They each kind of had a choice and chose opposite in terms of old school and new era. So I'm excited to see where this goes in moving forward. We're going to start. So we now have the jury group. At least everybody present is going to be on the jury for the rest of the season. And I don't even really know what that means, but we'll get there. And it'll just be interesting to see now that we are maybe in proper merge territory. I feel like this episode was a little bit of a fake out because we still ended up with three groups all going to tribal. Um, but we'll get Rizzo and Ozzy back from Exile Island and we'll have all of them together to see how it all shakes out.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:20

I cannot wait to see what happens when we get to tribal. I think it's gonna be interesting to see like you deal with the folks in tribal too. Like just seeing it's fun because once or injury, excuse me, once people are in jury, um, you'll get to like watch their faces as they learn things. So there's like a little bit of an audience, and so it's kind of fun to see how that reflects how we feel.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:42

Interesting. Okay. Well, tune in next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:46

Until next time.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:48

On Mist the Boat.