Survivor 50 Episode 10 "A Side Dish of Chaos"

Going once... going twice... SOLD! You are now the lucky owner of this week's episode of Missed the Boat, where newbie Lucas and superfan Murjanatu are reunited to discuss Survivor 50: In the Hands of the Fans.

It's the auction this week, and we're bringing you lots of comfort (with a little bit of chaos) as we react to Devens' Hail Mary gameplay, Jonathan's devious scheming, and Aubry's new hero edit. Oh, and MrBeast was on the island - did we forget to mention? Jeff certainly didn't!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Mist the Boat, a Survivor First Watch podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Okay, okay. Well, your first time, Lucas. I'm a lifelong fan. I am Rajana too, one of your co-hosts, and your resident survivor super fan.

SPEAKER_00 0:13

And I'm Lucas, a survivor newbie.

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Each week I will guide my best friend here through Survivor as we react to the iconic season 50 together.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

This week, Survivor 50 episode 10, a side dish of chaos. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Oh yeah. Lucas, I'm back. I'm here. It's Merjonatou today. Catch me up. How are you feeling about Survivor?

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Oh my gosh. Well, you took a little hiatus. I know you've been watching. Over some pretty big episodes, we have lost the triple C's, Chrissy, Coach, and Christian all in a row.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

Wow. I had not recognized that.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

I was just thinking about that, yeah, last night. And um this week is probably my favorite episode of Survivor so far that I've seen.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

So that makes you during the auction, I was like, I know Lucas is just eating this up. Like, I hope I'm right. God, I'm glad it's been your favorite episode. I am so thankful for Ian and Lena's coverage. Like, Ian is just so knowledgeable of the game, and Lena's just like such impressive, fresh air. It was so fun to hear their thoughts and hear your guys' banter, but I was definitely jealous, happy to be back in the game.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

It was so great having them both, but I am so glad to have you back and to catch up. How are you feeling about Survivor? I'm like, I haven't heard much about your reactions to the last couple of episodes.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Yeah, I'm feeling really good. I'm I'm loving this season similar to you. I mean, there's a lot, like so much going on. Um, sometimes I get a little overwhelmed, but overall, I am really enjoying it. And I think because my favorites are doing well. Like, as I said, my winner pick was always Tiffany. I'm an Aussie girl, but Sari is like my number, like one, and for them all to still be here is so exciting.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Yeah. Yes, I said Chrissy was my winner pick to you, and then the next week she went off.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

You know, that wasn't her, that wasn't anyone's fault. That wasn't the twist of it all. Oh for sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

But some of my other faves are are still hanging on by the skin of their teeth.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Okay, talk to me about your faves. Who's at the top right now?

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Well, so I think Sari is probably my top, top. Like her winning the coconut on you, yes, you were not here when she like found the Phoenix Coconut, and that just really won me over to Suri's side. Like, she made a fan of me in that episode. Her saying nothing on Survivor is impossible like really spoke to my soul. And I was so glad to be like, yes, I'm I'm a Suri girl now. So she's definitely my like top, top, and I really hope she wins. I'm I'm seeing a vision of her winning this season. Really enjoy Tiff, and Emily was my like pick of the nerd herd. Like, of course, it's all the women. Um, the other person this episode, and I will say, yes, this was my favorite episode of Survivor So Far. Upon rewatch, there are some critiques that I will get into. But also upon rewatch, I think this was a really strong episode for Aubrey. And I feel like she's had a turning point in this like second half of the season. And so I'm rooting for any of the women. As long as a girl wins, I'm happy. Yeah. Well, especially now that Steph is gone. I'm like, as long as a girl wins, I'm happy.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

That's so funny. Well, yeah, let's dive in. I have some thoughts and responses, but I think if we just they go in, we will we'll hear a little bit more. I we kind of jump right in to really like Ozzy's perspective of what's going on post-tribal. He's kind of doing rounds and talking all about his strong alliance and social skills.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Which there's there's a lot going on here. He is very proud of himself for how he's playing this game. And I I feel two ways about this because yes, he has made a strong alliance, and that alliance, Suri is carrying him through, but that is because Suri is carrying him through and playing a good game. Like, which to be fair, like, know your strengths, know your weaknesses. He made a conscious choice to like pair himself up with Suri, and it is seeing him through. So, like, he knew that he probably wasn't gonna do it on his own, and so I do respect that. But it is funny for him to be like, I'm playing such a smart social game, and it's like you just picked the right person to a lie to.

SPEAKER_01 4:56

Right, and I think that is, I I think in his mind that is what it is because he just like doesn't have those skills. So I think he he, you know, if he or I were in his position, I think we would say like it just goes to show prioritizing social skills and alliances goes further in the game, but he he's like, you know, my strength I think he's just talking like he talks, you know, but he he goes immediately, he's he's talking to Emily, he's like, What just happened? I think his feelings are a little hurt. He thought they were closer than they were, which is totally fair. I mean, they've been he was like, I thought you were my name one.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

Yes, and Emily was saying in the beginning parts of the game that, like, oh, I don't just want to play Christian's game, I want to play my game, I'm gonna like prioritize my relationship with Ozzie, and that did kind of go out of the window. Like, they she got stronger with the nerd herd, and she and Devons were the only two who wrote down Ozzie's name, and he's not happy about it. She, though, I felt really bad for her. She's like, this is true, genuine, crushing loneliness to be on the wrong side of the vote and kind of like the pariah, she says, in camp. So I I felt really bad for it. I like Emily a lot, and this is not a good place for her to be in, like after the vote, to be like, Oh, sorry, Ozzy.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Totally, I a hundred percent agree. I think she um is in an awkward position. It's honestly though, kind of surprising with how fast and loose she's been playing the game that this is the first time she has been on the right side of the vest. Yes. She mean like I'm she was just like feeling sorry for herself. And I was like, girl, you've been kind of crazy. But I'm happy, you know, but it's worked out. Um and when Devons approaches them, Ozzy goes, okay, so you don't have an idol, huh? I was like, Okay, welcome to Wake Up World.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Seriously, and we get into that pretty quickly the next morning, where Devons tells everybody the truth, which just speaking about Emily as well, I was really rooting for her to tell everybody that the idol was fake. Like, I really wanted another Emily spills the beans. So I was a little bit sad to see that didn't happen. But Ozzy seems to be clocking on to it a little bit quicker than Devin's even tells them.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

100%. Yeah, and we wake up. I mean, it's it's interesting because like we're kind of seeing this arc of the episode start here too. Because Devons is like, I want to be fun crazy when I'm at the bottom. I'm like, time to go break this game open. I'm like, yeah, this is like how Devin Devons loves being in this position where most people do not feel that way.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

And Jeff says as much at Tribal, I know I'm really jumping to the end, where as soon as Devons knows he's on the bottom, he says, like, that was the mistake they made my last season is letting me know that I'm the target. Because once he knows he has nothing to lose, he is just here for the fun of the game. And I love seeing him kind of become a chaos agent throughout this episode.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

I know. I and I think like we with Devons' strategy of just like playing with playfulness, I think a spirit of playfulness is how he says it. I I do think it's such a good way to play Survivor because the chances of you winning are so slim. You can be like Christian and do like a really great game, and then a twist just gets you out in the end. And so I kind of love that as a strategy to just be like, I'm gonna have fun. We can talk more about it when you get to the letters, but like I this season is the first time in my life I've considered playing Survivor. Like, I'm just like there's so much where I'm like, you know, maybe it could be fun. Like Suri, like you said, is just so inspiring. I know I wouldn't be great at the challenges, but now I'm like, I could get a little bit more for like survive. I mean, I maybe I could beat Jeff. Some people beat Jeff who I did not expect.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Yes, yes. Oh my gosh. Well, I agree. This season is the only one I've ever seen. But I'm like, oh I'm like, should I play Survivor? I ask myself that every episode, and um I know we are kind of jumping all around, but just with Devin's letter as well, I was really touched by him, his wife saying, like, I can't believe you told me you were gonna go on Survivor, and you actually did it. Like, oh I am tearing up right now.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

I I yeah, everything that letter just seems so sweet. His wife seems like a very thoughtful person. Just like to be like, You're among the handful of people in the world who get this adventure. And I was like, Yeah, you are. I want to be one of them.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

So, and you can hear the love in his voice that he has for his wife as he reads it. Like, it was beautiful. This is a Devons has not been one of my favorite players like all season, but this is his episode, and something I was curious about. This is kind of a pivot, but I was curious with Christian leaving. He's been so much of the narrator for this season. Who is gonna get the confessional time now? Who's gonna be like kind of leading the narrative? Devons really takes a front seat this episode, but so does Aubrey. I feel like we're seeing a lot more of Aubrey in the confessionals, and she kind of opens up morning of day 19 saying, like, we're in the final 10. It feels like a chessboard with dwindling pieces, and I'm trying to I love that analogy. And I like, like I said, I think this is a great episode for Aubrey. I like seeing her get some more confessional time.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

Totally. She has such a good edit this seat this episode. There is like a bug crawling up her neck. Did you notice that as she's talking about like that is so real? Because she's she's it's a voiceover and it's footage of her just like looking into the distance. She looks cool and intense, but there's like a bug like about to go on her neck, and I'm like, come on, like, we're trying to make her look cool.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

There is a bug flying around one of the food items during the auction, and I was like, ugh, like they're still on an island.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Yeah, completely. I feel like in the most recent seasons, they really don't talk about the elements part of it as much, like that they're starving, that there's bugs everywhere. I mean, a lot of times in the old seasons, they would just complain about the bugs for like a whole confessional. Um I thought it was funny, though, going back to like the episode when Devons is telling everyone about this, like my pocket square idol, and unfolds it. Everyone's kind of rolling their eyes, especially Joe. I did feel a little bad for Joe this whole episode. He's just like, I've been trying to get Devon since our fight in episode two.

SPEAKER_00 11:45

I here we are. I think you and I just maybe don't see eye to eye on Joe because this I'm sure like Joe.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

I just like do feel for him, like who's been trying to get someone in like Devin's is mischief. Like, if you're there, that would be so annoying that Devin's is getting away with all this stuff. And so it does make me feel for Joe, but Joe's by no means like one of my faves.

SPEAKER_00 12:08

No, I know I'm not, I don't mean to insinuate that he's like one of your top players. I do just feel like I have less sympathy for him. He is, and to echo what Lena said last week, I'm sure he is a lovely human being, but get him off of my TV. I was just like, he is so perturbed in his confessional about listening to Rick talk about so much deception. I'm like, girl, this is a game on TV. I'm I'm I'm really getting on Devin's side this episode where I'm like, he was having fun. Have some whimsy.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Like, have some whimsy, come on. I think that's totally, totally fair. I just am like, they are just so at odds. Yeah. This is like so funny how like Devin's has come back from the dead so many times, and Joey is just like, Are you kidding me? Like throughout this whole thing.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

There is a point, there is a point where names are jumping all around before tribal, and they I can't remember now. They're like, oh, we can't do so and so because they they have this advantage, and maybe it's Steph, and they're like, Well, Steph has a seal of vote, and he's like, Okay, then we go back to Rick. He's just like, Yep, okay, we go back to Devons. Like, please, somebody listen to me.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Yeah, and it's funny, yeah, he's just I have no idea about like just as a point here, as we're talking about Joe, like where he is in the game right now. I think he's like in a weird middle spot where he's aligned with Tiffany, but he wants to be with Jonathan, but like not enough to keep Jonathan's secrets.

SPEAKER_00 13:44

I th well, and we'll get there. I do feel like he feels just like a vote that is being carried by a lot of different people because he'll just do what people tell him tell him to do.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

Like Well, it's interesting because he's so used to driving the vote, and I think that's the vibe everyone's getting. And it's how he speaks. Like, we just have to do this. It's obvious. Like, that's how he talks to everybody, and it's condescending, and like that's how, but that's how he thinks it needs to be done, right? But in his head, he's like, but I'm not driving the votes. So he'll say condescending things and still give out the vibe that he wants to, but he's trying to be like a more malleable player this season, but he's having such a hard time still hiding that like condescension that people like hate about him. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 14:32

That's so interesting. And I don't see a ton of that because I feel like he's just like kind of helpless and hapless and looking for direction. But to your point, it's probably I don't have the con full context of his like prior gameplay where he's trying to overcorrect, maybe of like, okay, I'm not gonna steer, I'm just gonna let people kind of tell me what to do. But from my perspective, in just this season, I feel like he's just kind of like looking like a lost duckling, like looking for people to tell him what to do.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Yeah, I think it's I think that we're reading the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

That is kind of everything happening on the beach before their activities start for the day. We they walk up to Jeff at a table and are all so excited, and we get a little montage of prior survivor auctions. They are thrilled for the survivor auction. I had no clue what this was. Like, I have never heard of this before. I have not I had no context or concept of an auction. So Jeff makes a note about like, oh, we're doing this a little bit differently than we do in the new era. So is this an is this a new era invention? Is this an old school part of the game? Like, where does this come from?

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Yeah, so it's a classic old school mechanism of the game. And it's okay. It's the the one thing when I said earlier, like, I'm loving this season, they're doing a bit much. This is kind of what I mean. Like, it actually isn't that much different than traditional. Like, he just is calling them chaos and comfort. We're like, it's always really been that, and that annoyed me a little bit. But um it survivor auction is I think it goes back to like the beginning days, I don't know, or like single-digit seasons, and they had stopped doing it in the new era until around the around, I think 46 and 47 might have had um a survivor auction. And it's just like a very classic part of the game everyone loves. Very little downside, lots of good side. And he does say, like, we're doing it differently than we did in the new era, because in the new era, they had whoever had the most money left at the end would lose their vote. That was an incentive for them to actually like try and get things because in the new era, they usually had they traditionally had um advantages as the last one. So, like an advantage in the game would be the last item. And so that was kind of, I think, what he was saying we're doing it differently than the new era. And I love doing it like the old school, like you just get money and you get food, it'll be good food or bad food. Good luck, you know.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

Well, and yes, I agree about the comfort and chaos, kind of feels like marketing language that then nobody understood, and so he had to dumb it down. I was like, but then it's interesting you say that about kind of the history of the auction because my first thought was there are not advantages for sale. I thought there would be advantages for sale, and aside from the blanket that Suri gets, it's literally all just food, like until, of course, the final thing. I was I loved this, don't get me wrong, but I think I was surprised that it was just food.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

Yeah, yeah. And that's that that is traditionally what it is. So like I said, there's an advantage in the new era. I kind of like the blanket. That was I don't recall that ever happened even before. Famously, we the auction lasts longer than the viewer sees. That's like a thing everyone always says, but yeah, I just I just let everyone be so excited. And like Suri later says, like, that's the happiest I've been, like on this island. Like, then it's it's just so I don't know. I I love the auction. I'm I what did you think? Like once they actually started playing and and you got to see it.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

I loved it. I love when Emily gets the milkshake and like starts running, and then she's like, wait, and she stops and she slows down. She's like, This was really cheap. Did everybody see something coming that she's so afraid of the chaos? Yeah, and they it it does just lighten the mood, and they are all just having fun bidding on these like comfort food items, and Emily again with her milkshake, is like, this is gonna cause me to poop my brains out later, which you know potty talk.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

There's so much potty talk this season, I'm over it. Um, but I she does say that, and I was like whatever. I was a little bit annoyed how much of that milkshake was foam.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

I was like, I'm just saying, that's like 50% foam. She paid like a hundred dollars for that thing, and it was like half empty.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Oh my gosh. I just I I thought the Aubrey Rizzo um was really interesting. So there's they get K, they get one of the items that's half chaos, half comfort. They have to eat these grub, I don't even know, like giant bug. And they're supposed to split it, but Aubrey's like, can I eat it for Rizzo? Because Rizzo cannot eat like that or what I am a little, I'm a little nervous for Rizzo. I was just like, he is gaunt. I mean, he had two weeks in between seasons, and he went far in both now. I'm like, I'm hoping for Rizzo. Um, but anyway, and um, and then they get that comfort, and it's just such a sweet little moment.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

I love, and I think genuinely, this was something where I was like, I could do this. She just locks in. They're like, you get cookies and milk if you one of or both of you eats these grubs, and she's like, when can I start? And I think that's what you have to do. You just have to like not think about it. And she says, she's like, I'm a psycho, let me do it. And then I love she they I think Jonathan is like, Aubrey, can we see that? And she's like running around with a grub in her mouth, like showing hands to everybody. And this is when I said, I am loving Aubrey this episode. She asks Jeff at the beginning of the auction, like, how many items? Like, she's just being a little cheeky. She's trying to like get some info out of him.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

Like, I love it.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

I feel like she's having fun.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

She's having fun. I also, you know, I I felt like her episode her see her episode, it was like almost a little heavy-handed. Like, this is Aubrey. You're supposed to like Aubrey now. Like, like they were like, we haven't shown you anything, and now we're showing everything. Um, but I I also did love that. I think, oh gosh, no, I like said I'm gonna go on Survivor and I'm saying this. I think I could also do those eating challenges, no problem. Like, I am very open to the fact that like humans eat everything all over the world, like just get over yourself. And so I've always kind of wanted to do an auction, or like I always have been like, I think I could do Fear Factor. Because I think for like if I can, if it's la less than like 20 minutes, I feel like I can do anything, but not so much like the physical stuff, but I could I think I could eat that, but who knows? Don't put me on record.

SPEAKER_00 21:26

I was very aligned with Suri when the snack tray came up, and she was like, I don't want no carrots. Like, I I'm not spending my money on healthy food at the survivor auction.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Like, no, it's actually last season there was a girl, like, one of the rewards for a challenge was like a fruit basket, and she's like, That's diet food. Like, I don't want that. She's like, Why would I be running that? And I love the same energy.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

All I'm eating is coconuts, like, yeah, I don't need more fruit, and everyone's like, be quiet.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Be grateful. I was like, I'm with you, Sophie.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

This is so funny. I felt like I could eat the grubs, but not the carrots. I also felt like the sea slug. If the thing is, if I were Jonathan and it was this fall on the sword situation where I have to eat the sea slug so that you can get fried chicken and mashed potatoes, I would be like, sorry, Ozzie.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

To vote him out later in this episode.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

To vote him out later.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

I think the sea slug looked hard to eat, though. Like that is part of the problem. I was like, he just deserves more time. Like that looks challenged. And we saw sea slugs everywhere in Fiji. They are disgust, they are like fat and disgusting. I think like a person with a smaller stomach than Jonathan could not finish that. Like possibly.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

And his his first bite, he he says afterward it was like trying to eat a rubber band. Like it was just hard to get into. And the his first bite, he's holding it in the absolute terror in his eyes as he's looking at Jeff. Like, what is this? It was hilarious. And then he immediately, again, apologies for the potty talk. I think similar to the elements, this is just like the reality of your body in this situation. He immediately throws it up. But he in this one and only instance, I do respect Jonathan, like taking that hit and falling on his sword for Ozzy to get the fried chicken. I he is a better man than me in this at least in this instance.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

I agree. Like I it was very impressive. I think Jonathan, like I don't I think Jonathan is doing the best he can. Like I am being won over by Jonathan more and more. Like I don't want to love him because of the type of person he is, if that makes sense. Like I don't want the like macho manly man to win. But I am like he is being smart. He is typically being quite kind, and he is being and he is like playing the game all in ways that I like. I do respect Jonathan, like quite a bit. And this especially, I mean he's he's taking care of my boy Ozzie.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

I don't know. I think I think I would actually probably like Jonathan maybe better in person. I'm not loving the way he's playing the game just because I feel like he's being very hypocritical and he's co-opting the honor and integrity track. He doesn't care about honor and integrity, but he's like pretending to to get their votes and then gaslighting all of these women to get them out, like Camilla and D and Steph. He like the way Steph should have thrown him under the bus this episode and does doesn't is wild. That is wild. That is something that I'm not like loving about his game, is because I feel like he's just leveraging was when Coach was still here, he was leveraging other people's misogyny to like gaslight these women and get them out of the game. Right. I don't love that from a gameplay perspective.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

See, and this is where it's like hard where I'm like, it's literally because he's like a man that I don't like it. But if he was a woman doing it, I would love it. So I like I do love the game, like I and that's what it's like challenging. Like he is kind of doing that master manipulation that Siri can do, but because she's Surree, I love it, and because he's drawn that I don't, but I am like kind of saying, I do think he's doing he is kind of playing the best game he's doing a good job with what's available to him. Yeah, yes, and um yeah, yeah, the whole this I can't wait to get a tribal. Like that, there was so much that happened in his episode from a strategy lens as well. Like it was wild.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

So I have we just a couple notes from the auction because I do want to get into like the meat of the game. First of all, love Sari and her being like Jeff, I need to go be sick, and then she walks back and she puts another piece of the like prosciutto in her mouth. Iconic, I love her, and then this actually is gonna tie into some of my larger thoughts and criticisms around this episode. I love I'm gonna tear up again. Aubrey taking a bite of the mac and cheese and saying it tastes like home. And immediately I'm like welling up, I'm so emotional. And then two things. I feel like Jeff then has to like over-explain it. He's like, wow, you didn't say that tastes delicious. You said that tastes like home. And I'm like, Jeff, I I got it. I got it the minute she said the second she said it. And then he asks Joe to mansplain it. And I get as well.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

That's actually a good point. That's a good point.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

Joe does a really good job articulating it and talking about the connection between food and memory. But I'm like, girl, we are really catering to the lowest common denominator here. If somebody watches somebody eat a bite of mac and cheese and say it tastes like home and doesn't understand what they mean, like literacy crisis in action. Like, come on, I think you got it.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

I think we are in a literacy crisis. I don't know. I was gonna say, I don't think Jeff explaining it wasn't super terrible, but I do think like asking Joe, who like actually does not talk about being a dad very often at all. Like he has a tattoo that says daddy o and I was like, you or your dad, like I don't really even know. So that was like kind of interesting, but yeah, I loved hearing about Aubre being like a toddler mom now, and like we've watched her for so long. I mean, she did like three seasons practically back to back, and so it's like really cool to see her like 10 years later, and she said, like, you know, I'm having a little bit of time harder, I'm having a harder time being like fierce in this game, but like I do think that that like taste of home is helping. And speaking of, they're like, hey, you can all buy into this pot for $20. I okay, I was kind of like, no, like I'm feeling good, I'm nice and full. I don't, but I guess I think they must have been teased that something from home was coming.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

I also have a question from a production standpoint. This is one of the only moments in the game where I feel like production is tipping the scales. Because what would have happened if they had said no, Mr. Beast is in Fiji. He flew to Fiji. Like, are they just gonna tell him to go home? Like, that so it feels like they didn't actually have a choice. Like that and that is where I'm like, just say it's another twist and say that yes, you're getting your like it. I didn't love that they're like, oh yep, you have to choose to buy in. It's the biggest comfort. Because like you're giving them the Mr. Beast superware advantage either way.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Yeah, I agree. I feel like with a lot of the twists this episode, it everything worked out perfectly. However, it was it seemed like way too much of a risk for like if things didn't happen. So I I agree, I think they must have tipped the scales. I wanted you know too. This is like I was really hoping we were gonna get a loved one visit this season. So we haven't since COVID, since season 40. Um, but the loved one visits like one person from home comes and like stands there, and they have to usually fight for the right, like like the reward that evening is like a is like a dinner with your loved one, and then you can invite someone else. And so I was really hoping we're at 50, like it's my favorite episode of the old letters. But letters from home, like it does get you the same effect for so much cheaper, unless like find people to feed you to only see their loved one for five minutes, but like still, it was a little sad, but yes, yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

I would have loved that as again as a drag race fan. I love when they do the like makeover episodes with a family member or something, and because you're in, and that is not in any way the same level of isolation that you are in in Survivor, but in any of these shows where you are in quarantine and like are not interacting with the outside world, to have somebody actually come is so powerful. But the letters, I'm really excited after the immunity challenge to get into like them reading their letters.

SPEAKER_01 30:05

I know. I was kind of like, don't give them their letters and they can't read them. Like, who knows? Yes. But I was kind of like, I guess you can like think I get win or lose, I get my letter after this. That's what I was I was saying, ooh, this one looked hard. You gotta balance a ball on like a bow on small slanted downward balance, bam.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

I would probably not have done very well on this challenge, but and I honestly don't have much to say about the challenge. It feels cruel, first of all, to make them go do an immunity challenge right after the auction when part of like I was thinking about this too, part of the Mr. Beast advantage ends up being immunity for the night. So I'm like, that could have just been your shot at immunity. You didn't necessarily like need the additional challenge, but Tiff does not make it look difficult at all. She makes it look easy, she is locked in, and when it ends, this is I don't know, episode number two or three of me crying when it ends and she just like falls to the sand, and you realize how much she was holding in and like just not showing any of it. But she says, like, day 19 was the day that I got sent home on my last game, and I just told myself when I woke up this morning, like, make it through today. And Jeff, this is actually a moment of Jeff like over-explaining things that I liked, of him saying, like, the way these players have these small goals that they set for themselves, and they maybe not don't even share it, but when they they get that sense of personal achievement, like that was was very moving. I I'm happy for her.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Yeah, I'm I totally agree. She is the person who is voted out, she has like the lowest placement of anyone on season 50, and so now she gets to like beat that. Like, how many people did she beat? So she had she was in the eighth place her season, everyone else is I think six and above, and so it's like so cool to be like, I've made it to day 19, I'm gonna make it to day 20. Like, it's really just it's really special.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

That makes me want to see a season of like the first, like they call it the pork drop in drag race, but the first person out, I just want a season of like all first outs.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

People have people have pitched it. I don't like yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing that. It's usually the eldest person on the trip, so it would be interesting, but yeah, I would be really I would I'd love to see that. So um, wait, okay, so we did go straight to the challenge and not even talk about Mr. Beast. I'm realizing like that he was actually there first. So we just had like the mistake.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

We're gonna hear enough about Mr.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

Beast girl. I just realized I'm like, wait, we didn't even talk about him. I was just like, I just thought I like I just went on the record that it infuriated me when Jeff was like, thanks for coming to our little show. I was like, this show's been on longer than Mr. Beast has been alive. Shut up. I mean, I don't know, don't check me on that, but like it's been on a long time.

SPEAKER_00 33:08

The way they are like capitulating to him and being like, Thank you for deigning to spend your time on this show was so weird to me. And I know as somebody, again, this is a generational thing, but that being said, I'm not old, like Mr. Beast is just not for probably any of this generation. Like, this is Devin's teenage kids like idol or or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

So yeah, I I think even younger, I think it's like a preteen thing.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Yeah, I don't know if I did not need Mr. Beast here in general. I liked Zach Bryan more than this, but um was it Zach Bryan or Zach Brown? Girl, is there a difference?

SPEAKER_01 33:54

I think it's Zach Brown. I was like, I like Zach Bryan actually. He's over the country line into folk. Like, I like it.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

But um with the Mr. Beast of it all, honestly, like having him here, and we'll get into it, his advantage is is one thing. It is the weird way that they are like, you are so much better than Survivor. Thank you for like lowering yourself, is weird. I I don't like that. I don't need that. And we get so much Mr. Beast throughout this whole episode. So we will we will see him again at Tribal.

SPEAKER_01 34:30

Yeah, but like I actually thought I you know what? I actually am gonna maybe disagree with you there. I did not think we got so much Mr. Beast. I actually thought it was a very nice. I mean, he was probably on screen for the total of like eight minutes of the whole up of a two-hour episode, to be fair. It was not a guy Zach Brown who got confessionals in like scenes with just him, right? Like this was I and people have said like they feel as though they might have edited it if he did have confessionals and stuff and talking more about his love and survivor because we did hate Zach Brown so much. So I just wanted to I wanted to give them a little bit of credit. It was not a lot of Mr. Beast.

SPEAKER_00 35:03

I think when I say that, I'm not necessarily referring to his time on screen, but the way that they are giving credit to everything that happens in this episode, to the name, like his name being dropped in all of the players' confessionals, Jeff talking about him so much, that's more so what I mean. Like his his presence is looming really large, even though you're right. He is on screen definitely a lot less than like the Zach Brown uh episode.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

I hope I'm right. I hope I I think you are.

unknown 35:33

I think you are.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Um, so we so back to where we were. So sorry to bring us bring Mr. Beast into another forum of this. Um, people are like reading their letters from home. My favorite part. Like, I I again I wish that people were actually there. But like Sari saying she's never gotten a letter from her dad at 54. I paused and read it too. It was so sweet. It was just like, I remember when you were a little girl and I told you you couldn't go fishing because it was too early, and you set your alarm yourself, and you like were completely dressed and had a fishing rod, and I said, Okay, I guess you can come. Like, and I was like, that's so serene. Like, I just loved, loved, loved uh her letters.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

The way she you hear her say, like, oh, this is from my dad, and she says in her confessional, like, I didn't know who this was from at first. I've never received a letter, like, this is like the third time I'm crying in this episode. It is so moving. I am so happy for her. Like, and again, like this girl could win two million dollars at the end of this season, but like you it what means more is this letter that she got from her dad.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

And that right that she can have forever, like she can bring home and she'll always have that. I know, I just have in my notes, Lucas.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

I want her to win so bad. And yes, I want her to bring it home for her dad. Like, I know I'm tearing up now. I was crying watching the episode. We see, and I talked about this at the beginning, like Devin's reading his wife's letter on the beach, and just like the again, I'm crying the way you just hear the love for her in his voice, and like you said, she is encouraging his spirit of playfulness, and it is it is a great reminder. I think this is the other thing about the loved ones, either in person or in the letters, that like this is just a game, you are here to have fun. Like, there is, and Aubrey talks about this too.

SPEAKER_01 37:33

There's one winner, you need to have fun no matter what.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Yes, like you have such a full life back home. You are here to like have fun and play a game, and it really ignites for all of that. I this is my only thing. I would have loved to see everybody's letters, like and I have a a thought, maybe now's the time to get into it of just like this did not need to be a two-hour episode if you cut out half of like them talking about how incredible Mr. Beast is, and like half of Jeff over explaining everything, especially when we get to tribal, like but you if you're gonna make it a two-hour episode, then I want to see everybody's letters. Like, I want we see Sari, Ozzy, Devons, and Aubrey reacting to their letters. There are six other people that I want to see like reading their letters and crying.

SPEAKER_01 38:24

So because it makes me feel like either I don't want to think about it too much, but like I do feel like we're gonna see the letter of the winner. Like, you know, and so I'm like, just I want them to think about how they're editing it a little bit more. I just think like the editing this season, I don't know if there's like a new, I could look this up, I'm sure Ian would know. Like, there's like a new editor this season, just feels like they're trying to get us at every episode, and I also feel like they're not being super mindful of like screen, like we can tell what's gonna happen when you're not giving certain people screen time to give them an arc, you know? Like, I think it's usually a little bit more better distributed. So I don't know, but I I totally agree. I did want to call out, like, I loved in Aubrey's letter though that she calls out, she's like, none of us have ever won a season, and so we're really like hyper fixed in on like we're not gonna make the same mistakes twice. We're like, we're gonna win this game. And she that's when she calls out being it's harder to be fierce as a mom. But I'm like, oh, I think you're gonna like really do something great, Aubrey. I'm excited to see what that is.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

We get a flashback to her losing, and this might be the first time, at least that I've registered, that I'm seeing what winning Survivor looks like.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

The like final tribal, the final three. And I love her candidly speaking about like I there were people I think who had bitterness towards me, like I think I should have won. But I also have examined like why Michelle won and and the big moves that she made. And I yeah, you're right. Aubrey's getting a really good edit this episode. It worked on me.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

I well now, like they're like, okay, done with the letters. It's the scramble of all scrambles. Like that, this was I don't, I was like, how are we gonna recap this?

SPEAKER_00 40:09

Well, and the inciting incident, it somebody will later say it feel I think Aubrey will later say it feels like somebody threw a grenade in camp and we're just like scrambling. That grenade is lit. They pulled out the pin with Aubrey, Jonathan, and Steph standing at a hammock. And this is really interesting to re-watch because Aubrey will say at Tribal, Ozzie, I have been by your side, I've been defending you since day one, like I have never put your name out there. Technically, she doesn't, but she says to Jonathan and Steph, we haven't flushed any idols. And then Jonathan gets the idea that their new target, we have this big smokescreen of Devon's, we should get out Ozzy. But there are only two idols to flush. So Aubrey is is not a legal point planting, like there's only two people that she could kind of be alluding to. And I said this is kind of Siree level gameplay from Aubrey because it's the name is not on her lips. She kind of plants the idea in Jonathan's mind, and then Jonathan, this is what's so frustrating because it's like, yes, great, you're like pinning the blame on him, and then Jonathan pins it on Steph. So by by lying to her face and being like, Well, actually, I didn't tell you this. This is the same thing Coach did, and D clocked it when Coach did it to her, but Steph doesn't clock it here, where he's like, you know, I didn't tell you this, but Ozzy was talking about you a couple days ago, and I just haven't mentioned it yet. Like, ugh.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

The thing about Steph is she thinks she's so smart, but she's just like not, and that's what's like a little frustrating. Like, I'm okay if you're not smart. Like, that's not like my number one criteria for a good player, but it is frustrating when she's like, I would never put a name out there. I'm not that stupid. And I'm like, Well, how are you gonna win the game then, sister? Like, why even be out here if you're not gonna put a name out there? And then at the same time, someone tells you that one of your allies is saying your name, and you you just believe them blindly, you know what I mean? So I'm like, Yes, you you think one thing's smart, but the other thing's dumb, and I just think she is not even clocking that.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

And she is like, I need to be to your point, she thinks I need to be a master of subterfuge and make sure that Siri's not aware. And here, this is smart from Steph. She's one of the only people who knows that Sari and Ozzie are tight, and we shouldn't let Sari know that Ozzie's the target. So she tries to go and like pull the wool over Sari's eyes, and she's I would love to know if Joe, who has been looped in, and then this is where I'm like, Joe, what the heck? What are you doing? He loops in Siri. He also is not thinking, and of course, then uh because Sari knows, here's what I'm trying to say Sari knows at the time that Steph is coming to like lie to her that Steph is lying. I do think even if Joe hadn't told Sari, she would have clapped. She would have known because watching her lie, it is not good.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

Like I agree. I think it's interesting with I I do love how well Sari can read people. It is like a she just even sees like the mic, don't smile, don't smile. Yes, you know it's not happening. Like, don't do it, like she's so good at picking up those like little tiny cues. And I think in Steph, it's not as tiny, but like it is interesting to watch. And I they have played, I think someone said they played five games together, like they've done traitors together, they've done a show called Snake in the Grass together. So they like and Sari has outlasted her every single time, and Steph still trusts her every single time. Like, it's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

You were just quoting Sari when you were like, Don't smile, but I didn't realize at first and I was. Like, why shouldn't I be smiling?

SPEAKER_01 44:01

Like, I thought broadcast, you can't see it. It's like, wait, they can't see me. Why does it matter? I just quoting Story. Yeah. No, I just I love her little things at so funny.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

But this is then like, I think what complicates this, and and names start flying all over the place is because the advantages threaten to start getting played. So Sari is like, fine, we'll use our extra vote to get Steph out. Steph has a steel of vote. Ozzie has an idol. And to which Ozzie says, Are you sure you want to use your steel of vote on me?

SPEAKER_01 44:35

I'm like, Ozzie, shut up.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

Just let her let her protect you. Like, what are you like?

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Shut up.

SPEAKER_00 44:44

And she says, Do you want to go home?

SPEAKER_01 44:47

She's like, she's on my side here. She's like, what?

SPEAKER_00 44:52

It goes from Devon's is the target to Ozzy to Steph and then Siri because they're trying to like turn it back on her. And then Rizzo. And then Aubrey gets looped in. I was like, hey now, not too much on Aubrey. I think she's kind of the one they want to split votes with on Devin's. But the pre-tribal conversation is so chaotic. I could not keep track of what was happening, but I loved it. I and this is actually something I really liked from Joe when he before tribal asks, is anyone concerned that we don't even have like a semblance of a plan?

SPEAKER_01 45:26

And Emily's like, girl, I don't know.

unknown 45:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:31

One other thing I want to say about this pre-tribal chaos. It's so interesting that Devons is looped in on so much of these plans. Because they want to use him as a smoke screen, he is hearing from everybody about everything. And so I love him saying before Tribal, like, I'm about to blow this tribe apart. Like he is like, You're gonna regret telling me that. I did not see that coming, but I love it.

SPEAKER_01 46:00

I was gonna say, this is like the most honest and confrontational we I've like actually seen survivor, period. Like, I think Devons brings that in by starting the episode being like, this is title is fake. And then Stephanie just went to Suri, like, why would you say my name? She's like, That I love Siri going, that was floated. That was floated.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

Yes. And I love Suri being like, you think somebody's gonna float a name in front of me and I'm gonna say no, like, which is true too. And that's it. This comes up at tribal with Rizzo being like, we are all playing the game, we are all here to put out names. Like, I love that he says, Devons, you put my name out there, and I respect you for it. Like, that is you're being honest.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

Devins was like, sorry, Rizzo, and I so let's get to tribal. We're at tribal. We're talking to Jeff, and and Devins is just like, like, as you said, I'm just gonna crack this open. He just says the exact truth. I don't catch a single lie and just goes for it. And is like, this is what happened here, this is what happened there, da-da-da-da. And everyone's just like, the one thing Ozzie and Jonathan are kind of making eyes at each other, and Ozzie's like, Did you really do that, man? Like, he's scared.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

And Jonathan's gross little like, uh-uh, not like shaking his head, like, oh, this is so ridiculous, he's lying. I felt like he was so bad at lying in this, but and I'm I'm interested to see next episode if Ozzie does believe him, because in the live tribal, Jonathan is like, you don't believe what Devons is saying about me, right? And Ozzie's like, no, I don't believe it. But I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

I don't need to just talk to Sari and then he'll decide what he believes.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

Exactly. He's like, let me let me check in with my brain first.

SPEAKER_01 47:35

He's like, I just need to talk to my Jiminy Cricket over here. Like, yes.

SPEAKER_00 47:40

I love Devons being like, I have a pitch for everybody who was not included. But he says we can eeny mini miny mo between these three and choose who to get out. He's talking about Steph and Jonathan, but I couldn't figure out who the third person on his.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

Is it Rizzo? Because he he put Rizzo's name out there.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

Oh, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 48:02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

I did he did say that, and I'm not 100% sure, but I also speaking of just like all the lying and the fact that Devons is just standing here telling the truth, the fact that he knows about Steph's steal a vote and she confirms that she has it is such a point in his favor that like he's telling the truth. And I love Tiff being like, why would you tell somebody that you're trying to get out that you have an advantage? And so it is it's iconic. I love it. It is like the silver bullet. And rewatching this though, Steph jumping to defend herself so much and speaking up so much, I think is what moves the target away from Jonathan and onto her, which is like a shame. I would rather have seen probably Jonathan get taken out. And we've already talked about this, but Rizzo's kind of takedown of Steph and being like, hey, we are all here to put out names. I respect Devons for being honest, is the most likable I have found Rizzo all season.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

This was, I was like, oh one thing about me, since I've been gone, for a dear listeners, is I kind of have unlike turned to Rizzo. Like I'm I love him now. And I'm like, okay. Because I think he he he first of all, we're not seeing as many of his confessionals where he is so braggadocious. True, which is nice. And so, like, and when he's playing the game, I am like, yeah, he's making he is just a super fan, he's like us, and so like he's like, Don't do that, do this. Like, this is how you play the game. And again, like you said, like I was really annoyed with how Stephanie handled all of this. She obviously just didn't have a plan for like if this didn't go to Devin's exactly like she thought, or I guess Auburn. Like, I'm actually even confused who she's going for at the end of the day. Like, are we at Aussie now? I'm like so confused.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

And I think she's just scrambling, being caught out in a lie and and overcompensating because of it. Whereas Jonathan, much as I hate to see it, just kind of shakes his head no and is like, this is crazy. We all know Devin's is a liar, and leaves it at that. And because Steph then is like sweating under the spotlight, it it falls apart.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

But then I know it's actually interesting too, just so you know, like in her exit press, she like still is kind of defending Jonathan. She's like, Well, she Ozzy did tell Jonathan that. And I'm like, girl, do you know that for sure? Like, she like her the wolf stole over her eyes. Interesting. Whatever, war is over, she's gone. I'm like, okay. But all of it ends up kind of being irrelevant, all these different names being thrown out, like in all of the different cases, because Mr. Beast is coming, and he does have like quite the the twist to bring to the cast. What did you think about this?

SPEAKER_00 50:41

I again feel like Jeff is like, this is unlike any tribal I've ever seen before because of Mr. Beast and because his name is they are giving so much credit to Mr. Beast for what's happening. When this is clearly Devons is is not getting the recognition he deserves for just being here with nothing to lose. However, as annoyed as I am at how we are kind of like bowing at the altar of Mr. Beast this episode, this advantage is is kind of great. Like I do, I do kind of love the coin flip and the super high stakes that if you win the coin toss, if you if you call it correctly, you get immunity, you get an idol, and you double the prize fund to two million dollars.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Right. And I think I was gonna say, when you like I think the reason they're bowing down at Mr. Beast is like he is giving them a million dollars, to be fair. So like yes, yes, so I think that's part of it, is like he he true like that is his money that he's giving me.

SPEAKER_00 51:43

He is putting his money where his mouth is.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Yeah, so I think the lip service is four million dollars, which to me does feel a little bit better than if he was just Zach Brown, just like showed up, you know what I mean? Um or Billie Eilish. Oh my gosh, by the way, Billie Eilish did a commercial for her own self. She did not even talk about it. I like Survivor, and you can watch my movie. I was like, shut up.

SPEAKER_00 52:04

No, we'll we can get there now. I this actually explains so much for me. The Billie Eilish commercial explains to me why she has the named Boomerang Idol this season, but hasn't done any sort of like press or promotion for it, because it wasn't her. It's clearly her team. And this is a synergistic, the timing of her movie coming out, which I think is next week, having the like tie-in of the trailer with Survivor, having this commercial. I was like, oh, that's why you don't even see her. Speaking of just like the the reality TV show editing and confessionals and stuff, you don't even see her face say, I'm a huge fan of Survivor.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

You see her say, like, hi, I'm Billy Eilish. It feels like AI. I was like, this is weird, and but it makes sense in the fact that it's truly the brands in a way that made me so upset. Because I was like 100%. She had something to promote and she's not even gonna promote Survivor at all. Like, I'm like, how did we it makes everything worse though? Because now she's being promoted and Survivor's not being promoted at all. Like we're using Survivor Air Time to talk about Billy again, even though we said her name 20 million times this season. Oh, it made me mad.

SPEAKER_00 53:12

It it doesn't make me feel good about it at all, but at least I was like, oh, the puzzle pieces are falling into place. This was all for the movie in a way where I'm like, it makes sense. I see the full picture, I don't like the full picture, but at least I like now understand where this came from, and it was just a brand deal. I'm sure it was CBS, I'm sure the parent company, I don't know this, but the distribution of the movie is probably like also paramount.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

No, I'm totally with you. The puzzle piece clicked, it just made me like even more upset. Because I'm like, now you're just getting an additional thing from Survivor. Oh yeah. Anyway, okay. So back to the celebrity of this episode, technically, Mr. Beast. Um, so he yeah, he comes with and he has this advantage and he's like, flip it yes or no. And I don't know, I it was interesting how only Devons seemed interested in this advantage. I was I I thought when he I was like, this makes sense. I actually kind of suspected it was gonna be the coin flip because the coin was actually in the very first promotional material we saw, and he did a coin flip for doubling the prize pot in the beast games. So I did kind of think that he was gonna be doubling the prize pot, but I like that it was at tribal because then you know whose backs are against the wall and who's like willing to risk it. It makes more sense.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

Yeah. And for the loss to be immediate elimination, to me, the stakes felt correct. Like this is actually, and they keep doing this, but like they said the blood moon was the biggest twist in the history of Survivor, and then looking at this season, it's like the least interesting twist that they've done. Like they the double duo was a better twist. This is a better twist. Like, I and doubling the price pot, the stakes are real and high and like genuine in a way that I really enjoy. And the loss of like 50-50, you're out. And this does feel Rizzo says as much, tailor-made for Rick Devons. He's the idol guy, he's the advantage guy, he is the chaos agent. And so for him to just be like, yep. And here is where Jeff, this whole tribal, keeps being like, you just have so much dopamine. I think he means adrenaline. I I I genuinely the whole time, the little thing. More so, Jeff. I'm like, Devons wants to do it. To your point, Jeff is on your side where he's like, I thought more people were gonna discuss this. Like, I thought more people were gonna compete for this. And Devin's volunteers, everybody's like, if he wants to volunteer, let him. And then Jeff is like, are you guys sure? Like, can can we talk about this for another 10 minutes? Like, we need to get another commercial break in here. Does anybody not want him to do it? And then Aubrey's like, I don't know, maybe I don't. And he's like, Well, Aubrey, is there anything about his and she's like, just do it. Like, I I was like, Thank you, Aubrey, for just cutting Jeff off. Like him stalling and over-explaining everything this episode wasn't really getting to me. He he goes, Aubrey like cuts him off and is like, Devon's do it. And then he's like, Before you come up, let's play this out. How are you gonna? And I was like, Jeff, I I swear, please just let it happen. And this is where I was like, this did not need to be a two-hour episode. This may be my favorite episode of Survivor yet. It also might be my least favorite Jeff probed episode. Yeah, like he was just getting on my nerves.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

I think he knew. I to be fair to defend, I do think he knew this is gonna be like a historic moment. And so he's like, let's just get, and especially if it the flip is and he leaves, like he does need the sound bite for if Devons goes home. Like there's no vote. That's true. There may be no vote. There's no vote. So he needs to like drag. So I do I didn't, it didn't bother me as much. I also do think just like talking it out, I'm like, they are trying to bring in 12-year-old boys with this, you know what I mean? Like the whole point is because that demographic 100%, and so maybe that's why we're feeling like a little explained to and like interesting, it's like barking for that younger audience this season or something. That's such a good point or this episode specifically, because it's like we're trying to get those 12-year-old boys to fall in love with survivors, we get the next generation.

SPEAKER_00 57:20

That is actually such a good point of like him having to have Joe explain what Aubrey means by like this tastes like home for a 12-year-old boy. That actually might need to explain. Wow. I I think you've I think you've cracked this case wide open.

SPEAKER_01 57:40

Thank you, thank you. Um happy to be there. So Devons goes up and he, you know, of course, because Jeff is is asking him lots of questions. He's like, you know, me and my son Jack, we watch Mr. Beast. I'm doing it for him. I a little bit didn't love them being like, you get to pick what's heads, what's tails. I'm like, no, just like tell him heads is obviously the cheetah head or whatever animal that is, and the and the fire with the torch is obviously you're going home. Like I was like, I I just was like, I don't want to have to think about it, just do it. You know what I mean? Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

Yes. Well, and then I kind of like though the it puts the the choice in your hands, like even more so that like it puts your fate in your hands. This is very compelling TV. Like to watch the coin flip, to watch it roll, and they're all like jumping off of their seats to try and see what it is. I love that. The fact that he hits is incredible. Like you, and to your point earlier, you couldn't script this. Like everything is happening exactly as it needs to, in a way that's that's really exciting. But now it means that they have to vote. And so the livestribal in live tribal history.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

But wait, just to like go back, like he wins, everyone's like excited because like two million dollars, that's very exciting. And Joe's like this in his hands, like, yes, how did Devons get away with this? I can't and I just again, I just think that's like so funny. Like, it's like it's like image. Like, I'm like, you could get two million dollars now, like you just are holding this grudge.

SPEAKER_00 59:16

I didn't even see that. That is so funny. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 59:19

Yeah, so so the I mean, and also do you want to talk about I mean, just like going from one million to two million dollars? That is a pretty big deal.

SPEAKER_00 59:27

And Survivor is already, I think, if not the largest, like one of the largest reality game show prize funds already at a million dollars.

SPEAKER_01 59:39

Famously, I'm like, I'm gonna go in on traders, I'm not gonna get any money. Because I'm just so used to Survivor, yeah, a million dollars.

SPEAKER_00 59:49

Doubling it is wild. Like I said, I I think it does, it's a it's a proper like up the stakes twist. I don't see it change at the same time though. I don't know. I'm like, I'm competing for two million dollars with the same fervor that I was already competing for a million dollars. Like a million dollars is already so much money that I'm like, yes, two million is is double that, but I was still fighting hard. It's not like it's going from a hundred thousand to a million. Like that, right? The jump there actually feels bigger to me because a million is already so much money.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:28

Right. It to me, I'm like, I think it could, I don't actually know Seree's work status, so maybe I should be quiet. But like for someone who's 54, I do think the difference between a million is like five more years of work versus retiring. You know what I mean? Like I think that it's uh no, it's a lot of money. I'm I'm so excited for them. Like, I'm happy the price pop was doubled. And so, like, if we have to do that for Mr. B, I mean, depending on who wins. I'm saying I love all of it, but if someone I don't love wins, like that I don't care how much they win. But um, yeah, so now we have to go to a bow, and it's a little chaotic just because it's like I I mean it was chaotic going into it, but I felt like just from the vibe watching, I'm like, Steph, come to pack your bags, girl.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:09

And re-watching, like I said, her kind of defense at the beginning of Tribal, I think is what puts the nail in her own coffin, and they know once it's going to a vote, but then they're all telling her Aubrey because that was clearly the kind of like second position for for after Devon's. And Emily tells Jonathan, like, I'm hearing Aubrey, and he's like, You're so full of it, like I which I did kind of like. I'm gonna miss that. There's yeah, because he's like asking her, like, what are you hearing? And she says, Aubrey, and he's like, I'm full of it. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, good. Then I love that they're all talking about Stephanie, and they're like, She has to steal a vote, and somebody says she can't steal everybody's vote.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

Like, and it's funny to choose Devon's as well. I mean, I guess I guess because he just gave her the sass, but I was like, that seems interesting. I don't know, like, why him, but yeah, especially for Augustry, like to the point, like it's not gonna change anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:15

Oh my god. Christian from the jury, I do want to say, just before we like get to the like elimination, Christian is on the jury and he is sad to be watching from the sidelines. He's like, I would have loved to be there, but I did feel that. He he is like, I'm glad he gets to watch his bestie, like killing it, making survivor history, and D is watching the live tribal. She's like, I love this game. Like, it's it's a fun, fun tribal.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:43

I love that. Um, yeah, and and so then we Stephanie does leave. Uh, she's voted out. Uh, pretty a lot of votes on Stephanie.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:53

It is everyone, just just okay, because she has her two votes. Yeah, so it is everyone. She votes for Aubrey twice, and everybody else votes for her.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:02

And uh to your point earlier, as she leaves, she says, Ozzy wasn't my idea, by the way. That was the truth. And I'm like, girl, say his name. If you're gonna do it, like, because people were asking, like, was that classy? Was that risky? And I was like, if you're gonna do it, do it. Yes, isn't that how you feel? Like, am I being crazy?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

If Devon's has proved anything, it's like, name names, tell the truth. Like, especially, girl, you just lost two million dollars. I would I you should have thrown Jonathan under the bus from the beginning, but for for her not to say, Jonathan told me Ozzy was spreading my name. Jonathan put Ozzie forward as is is and she even says leave it. She says in her exit on the show as they're showing the votes, this is the hardest uh torch snuffing I've ever had because it truly was not me who put Ozzie's name forward. And I'm like, girl, say that.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:59

Say I think you know, first of all, I'm not sure on the rules. Like, maybe you're not so I know that like Christian probably got yelled at, but it was like good TV, so they put it in there. Like, you're not supposed to talk if you're in the jury, and like I don't know like what the rules are on leaving and like how much you're allowed to confuse like famous, I keep saying famously in traitors. Like, if you are a traitor, you should not be saying anything else about the other traitors because that will ruin the whole thing for everyone else, right? And so, but like this, it's like you know, everything's abstract. There's not like a clear bad guy, you know. So I feel like you should be able to do that. Um and people have, so like I don't know why. And I liked, I mean, I just Devons was just so sincere, and he's like, Yeah, I lied sometimes, but like I have no reason to lie right now. And he's like about to do the coin flip, and he's like, that was the truth, by the way. Yes, like she's just I mean, I guess she's out, but Jonathan, like, I am I I think he his reign's gonna be over tomorrow. I'll be shocked if not, especially because Devin's has an idol, like seeing how far the idol can go is gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

That's a great point. I kind of forgot that he also won an idol, like it is so much. He he's safe tonight, he's safe for the future, he has an idol for at least another night.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:15

So there's a lot of idols left for how few days are left.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:19

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:20

Like all of the people with idols are really incentivized to play them now.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:24

Because there are nine people left, and you can only play them until there's like five people remaining.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:30

So But there's only like three episodes left, question mark.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:34

Yes. Another I realized this, I think, with Lena last week, where we were like, oh, the finale is coming up at the end of May. So where yeah, where do where does this go?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:46

Maybe four episodes left. I'm like looking at my calendar, like, uh yeah. We'll have to do something fun for the finale.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:52

Very interesting. Well, the tribe has spoken. Let's let me double check what my notes were. On Stephanie Lagrossa.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:04

Lagrossa.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:05

She's a full name person, I feel like. Like they they refer to her with her full name a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:11

I do think that she's a Steph, actually. Like, I I I think when you say Stephanie, I'm like, is it right? Oh, but if you say like Steph, I'm like, okay. But also, I wouldn't know her last name on the top of my head. She wasn't an iconic player for me in any way, shape, or form. But anyway, tell me about her. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

My first notes, and this is so interesting, with with a fuller context of her as a person since I wrote this looking at her photo. I said, she seems intense. Like she might struggle interpersonally.

unknown 1:06:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:46

I think that's totally fair.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:48

And I said, A beast in the challenges, which also I think is true. Like so, I feel like I had not a full read on her. I could not have ever imagined a full read on Stephanie uh just from looking at a photo. But I I sent her off. I I goodbye.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:08

I hope she starts apologizing. I feel like her clips are coming up again, and I'm like, come on, girl. Wake up. But anyway. Um, this was a fun episode to talk about. I'm I'm glad we're on the same page about so much. I'm so excited to see what's gonna happen next week and the week after. Like, I just we're in a good spot.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:25

Can you believe we have like three weeks remaining? That is a wild.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:31

No, I can't. I'm like really sad. I kind of wish if you're in a 26 players, like extend the season a little bit, you know? Yeah. But maybe they did. I don't really know how many episodes you normally end a season, but I I I'm loving it and I'm I'm sad it's gonna be gone.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:46

Well, well, I'm so glad to have you back and to see us through the end of Survivor 50 together.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:54

Yay! Well, we'll see you next time on Miss the Boat.