Missed the Boat: A Survivor First-Watch Podcast

Survivor superfan Murjanatu brings her best friend Lucas, a total newbie, along for the ride as they watch and react to Survivor 50: In the Hands of the Fans.

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Missed the Boat: A Survivor First-Watch Podcast

Survivor 50 Episode 11 "Everyone Will Be Shooketh"

May 10, 2026 • Lucas Graden, Murjanatu Mutuwa • Season 1 • Episode 11

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Survivor newbie Lucas and his BFF Murjanatu are back to discuss the newest episode of Season 50! The landscape looks a lot different after this week's double elimination, and some of our faves might be in danger, girl. Joe continues to stoke his one-sided beef with Devens, while Emily gives it her all and "Cirie's Riz-ard of Oz" gets split in two. We're here to break it all down!

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

Welcome to Missed the Boat, a Survivor First Watch podcast.

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Okay, well, it's your first time. I'm a lifelong fan. I'm Rajana too, one of your co-hosts, and your resident Survivor Superfan.

SPEAKER_03 0:11

And I'm Lucas, and I've never seen Survivor before. You could say I missed the boat on one of the most iconic reality TV competitions of all time.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

Okay, I see what you did there. Each week I will guide my best friend here through Survivor as we react to season 50 together.

SPEAKER_03 0:29

This week, Survivor 50 episode 11, everyone will be shooketh. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_00 0:36

I'm ready. Are you shooketh? I guess I haven't used that word in a while. Shook at all. A little loan shooketh. But wow, this was an episode. And Bestie, we are very close to the end of the season. Like we're getting our finale is in like three weeks.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

That doesn't feel real. It is coming up very quickly. Right. They and I feel like they had to eliminate two people because they need to start dropping those numbers. But I'm confused by how many people are even going to be left before we get to the finale. I know. There's seven remaining now at the end of this episode, and we've got like two or three episodes left.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

Oh my goodness. Yeah, I I loved the giant cast at first, but I'm like, okay, you need to make sure the days line up well with this giant cast. Uh, because I do not like saying goodbye to two people in one night. And I think we've done that, I feel like we've done that more than we haven't this season.

SPEAKER_03 1:36

Yes, and that kind of makes me think back something I was debating with myself watching this episode. We will get into it. There's another twist. I feel like, to your point, there have been more twists per episode than not. And there's a part of me that's like, okay, but what if they just actually played the game Survivor?

SPEAKER_00 2:01

No, I think one of the reasons we did this podcast is I wanted you to like experience Survivor. And honestly, I feel like you haven't because I have to do so much explaining on like what is normal for you to understand like what is actually happening this season because it's so twisty turny.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

Yes, and this is good drama, good television, but it definitely I think this was also a good twist. I still thought, okay, we're doing something new again. Like right there, it's and I think they are just trying to keep the players on their toes, keep the audience on their toes. They don't want them to know what to expect, but how much of it do you then take the skill out of the gameplay as well? When sometimes it is just an advantage or a disadvantage that you couldn't have planned for that shoots you in the foot.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

I totally agree. It feels like they are taking away some of the advantages of the more strategic players in a way that I don't love watching sometimes. Um, because you can't plan for all these twists and turns. Well, speaking of, you know, we open in, it's night 19, and we have this post-tribal situation where everyone is reacting to Devin's success in the coin flip.

SPEAKER_03 3:19

Rizzo thinks this was the greatest tribal of all time. And he says, unless I go on to win two million dollars, this is my favorite day in survivor history, which I know, and I mean I I get it.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

I mean, that must have been a very exciting moment. I think we all feel the same way that it's like, if it worked out, it's amazing. If it doesn't, like so anticlimatic. And so I think this was like a really interesting episode, and I loved seeing everyone's reactions. We'll talk more about it in just a moment, but you know, the pot is bumped up to $2 million, and everyone's like, I might have to try a little bit harder now. Two million.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

And speaking of kind of each individual's reactions, Aubrey is very happy that Rick is drawing all of the attention from his big performance, and she's like, This is perfect. I'll just stand behind him while he takes all of the heat. And they call themselves two little devious cockroaches. Okay. Interesting choice, but I get that she's saying, like, we're still here. Yeah. We've we've stuck around. And spoiler alert, they make it another night, both of them.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Amazing, amazing. And I mean, I think that was one of the things, the reasons in the last twist, he Devin's had to receive an idol, right? Like, I just think that the risk is so high. And you know what's interesting? Like, now that I think about it, there are seven left. He could have used it until there were seven left. Yes. Did he have to use it like tonight then? Or could he I guess he could have used seven?

SPEAKER_03 4:53

I think tomorrow would have been the last time he could have played it.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Wild.

SPEAKER_03 4:56

I was thinking that at the end of the episode. I was like, well, there are now seven left. Because the the Billy Irelish boomerang idols, I think they can play until there are five left.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Yeah, traditionally it's five. So I I I think that's right too. My next note here is just Joe, you are being ridiculous. Like, I have a slight Joe defender, like, but this, how he is taking this personally, ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

Girl, Joe, we can we can get into him. He reminded me of what is the the TikTok audio that's like, and then I hear this grating, irritating voice.

unknown 5:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:35

Because the next morning he's laying down and thinking, I should be celebrating. The pot was just bumped up to two million, but he cannot relax. He will never get a moment's rest as long as Devons is still on this beach.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

He and so that disgusting flare.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

Inappropriate, disgusting. Like what, dude? Chill. That chill.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

Well, and he brings it up two different times. So he on night 19, he's kind of bringing it up to Ozzy. And Ozzy's kind of like, I don't know, it felt like that was the best case scenario.

SPEAKER_03 6:06

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

And Joe is like, you know, fuming. And then the next day, he's kind of going on this parade, talking to everything, trying to campaign against Devin's, and everyone's like, we don't really see it, man. I love he goes to Aubrey and he says, it was an extremely poor taste. And Aubrey goes, Okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:29

I love when he goes to Sari and says what he did, he that was an attack. And Sari is like, what Devons did was not an attack. Us planning to vote Devins out was the attack. Like, dude, get us in perspective.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

She goes, That's just Survivor. Because he says it's inappropriate to her.

SPEAKER_01 6:49

And she's like, uh, no, you live on Hypocrisy Hill. She goes, like, some address, like 500.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

500 hypocrisy hill. Thank you for putting him in his place. And she says she is over-babysitting him, which they've been doing since like episode two, therapy carousel. They all feel like they have to babysit Joe. Come on.

SPEAKER_00 7:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:11

No, I totally agree.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

This was, I feel as though the players have been feeling this for a while, and I had felt before I didn't quite see what they were saying with Joe. Because like I felt like the first couple arguments, Joe was uh had some validity there, but I think he must have been making comments similar to the way he's reacting to Devin's that we couldn't we didn't see or couldn't quite it didn't translate as well on screen that now I'm like, okay, this is what everyone was talking about. Like this episode, he was totally just like head in the sand in his own weird beliefs.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

And Tiff makes a similar comment of like, okay, you're working with Joe, you know you've got to be like tempering his emotions the whole time. But I think it is starting to finally burn some bridges for him because as you said, he's kind of off in his own little world, he is so singularly focused on Devons.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

And I'm loving this duo that's coming together in Tiffany and Siri. I think we've seen them play a little bit together, but this episode kind of solidified that. And Tiffany says to Siri, hey girl, there's a lot of idols here. Like there's still a lot of idols in play. We're thinking about Devons, but don't forget Ozzy and Rizzo. And I mean, Siri's actually interested in this.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

This stressed me out at first because I said, Tiff, you're about to make the fatal mistake of targeting Ozzy and Rizzo with Siri. But I didn't see this coming, and it's very smart gameplay from Siri to say, actually, if we can get them to flush their idols, that would be good for me. And we see, I've heard of this. I've we've talked about this this season. The time where she's the only player in Survivor to go home without a single vote. Right. Because every all of the other tribe members had advantages, and she recognizes I'm in this trio of three. I'm the only one without an idol. So I like that she's like, I've got a code word with each of them. I can tell them to flush their idols.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

And then we don't send them home. So she gets to keep them here and send away their idols. Masterful planning from her.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

Is and so they tell, but one thing, I just kind of want to say this. It comes up later, but because they do a random rock draw to pick the two different teens later, they put Suri in a situation where she could have been advantaged getting out again. Like if Suri, Ozzy, and Rizzo, and it was her, everyone could. Yeah, sorry. And it could have played their idols and Jonathan Head of Munity. Like that could have just happened again.

SPEAKER_02 9:48

Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

I am so grateful it didn't fall that way. But that like my heart dropped when I saw they were doing rocks. I'm like, what are you- you do not do rocks this late into the game when there are three idols out there. It really tries. I'm glad it didn't happen, but like I was a little nervous when they pulled out the rocks, especially because we saw the scene of her like getting advantageous. I believe we call it advent uh advantage get in or idol get in, like Armageddon. Like it's everything was predicted by her. Oh, but we focus in on Ozzie. Therese like, we need to scare them. We need to scare them into playing their idols.

SPEAKER_03 10:22

I love that she says to Ozzie, they're coming for you. And she's telling the truth, but it's literally her and Tiff. She's like, they're like laying the idol. She's like, they're coming for you. She's not lying, but she's like, also, it's it's me. And then this is where Ozzie says, It's crazy you say that. I just had a nightmare about this last night. I went home with an idol in my pocket, and I asked myself, why didn't I play my idol?

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Girl, I'm wondering the same thing, Ozzy. Because spoiler alert, Ozzie gets kicked out tonight and doesn't play his idol. And I am just like, Surrey told you to do it today. You had a dream about it. Like, just do it. I don't, I I am appalled. I I I'm appalled by his gameplay. Everyone is really concerned. Like, he Ozzie can't get to Cere, but she did tell him already, play your idol tonight. And he didn't do it.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

It's interesting. I'm excited to see where where this all goes because Rizzo does play a part in Ozzie's departure as well. And I'm excited to talk about his gameplay. But we'll get there. We also have Devons talking about that. This is like morning of day 20, and he's describing Tribal last night as the wildest moment of his life. He has the first real immunity idol he's had in this game, and it's day 20. That's a good point. But and I was like, oh, he's dancing, he's running around, he's doing his bells, he's jumping. Good for him. And then it kept going. And I was like, okay, if I were on this beach and I saw Devin's gloating to the extent that he is, the celebratory dancing in like five different locations around the idol was a little much.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

I'm hoping that was production. That was I thought it was funny, but I'm like, different if he was continuingly dancing, like two different places, but it looked like he went to a place and danced. Yes. Went into the place and danced. He was like on the ground at one point, and I'm like, it is fun and it's cute, but like this is a bit much.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

He was like spraying water in a waterfall from the watering hole, like it it got on, it went on a little long for me.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

I a hundred percent agree. And like if that each one of those dances were his idea, that's like even weirder. I'm like hoping someone told him he had to do that.

SPEAKER_03 12:44

Speaking of Devons, he and Ozzie then connect over their family letters.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

And I wrote, Oh, Lucas is sobbing.

SPEAKER_03 12:54

I I first of all, we got some like b-roll of just them on the beaches all reading their letters. They come together, Ozzie and Devon's on the hammock, and Ozzie talks about his dad and their relationship and the letter from his mom. My immediate reaction was actually not to start crying.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Never. I've never crying.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

I was I was curious if because Sari had told Ozzie people are coming for you, he felt like I need to go and gain sympathy by opening up to Devons. However, once it cut to the confessional and Ozzie was just like on his own talking about his relationship with his dad and losing his dad and the regrets he has about how he spoke about their relationship on TV. Right, that was actually very touching. I'll be honest, I still was not crying until he and Devins are talking, and Devins is like, as a father, like I know he is nothing but I'm crying again. I know he is nothing but proud of you. Like I think of my boys and like wouldn't want anything else.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

And he says, like, I've watched you, Ozzie. I've known you, Ozzy. This Ozzie is just so wonderful. Like, and it's a I thought it was a very authentic, touching moment. And I think that I stand on what I said like multiple episodes ago is like Ozzie is never playing 3D chess. I I do think he just happened to see Devons in the hammock and kind of talked to him about it. What I thought was so beautiful is like episode one, Ozzie says, like, I'm gonna play like Oscar this time. Like, and we find out that's his dad's name, and his dad's like a very social, gregarious person, and he's trying to change like the fact that there was this like secret kind of motif of him trying to be his father this whole time, like ah, beautiful. And like I did remember when he talked, he kind of threw his dad under the bus. It was an awkward question he was asked to travel about like his own personal relationships back home, and I did like really feel from him then, and then, and I'm so glad he kind of got to correct the record and like give his dad the props. Like, I just thought this was a beautiful moment, but I from this moment was like, uh oh, we're moving.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

We're seeing a little bit too much of Ozzy.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

Oh my play, you're idle, babe. Like, from here, I'm like from the edit. But I I thought that was really, really beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 15:25

No, I did, I really enjoyed this very unlikely duo, kind of connecting over fatherhood, and and they even uh talk about like how did you know you wanted to become a father? And he I loved when he says, like, you love to teach, like you'd be a great dad, like that chills so sweet, and we go to day 21, and I was thinking, like, oh, for them to just have a day to like sit on the beach, day 20, like kind of comes and goes, they just got to sit on the beach and read their letters and relax. Um less of relaxing the next day on day 21. But before we get to the challenge, they get tree mail, and I love that they read out this riddle, they all Rizzo, ever a student of the game, knows exactly what challenge they're referring to. But Emily and Devons are just like whispering to each other while everybody's discussing, scheming, and thinking, can we get out Joe? Which, yes, please, or Sari. And I thought, girl, no.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Yeah, I was I'm a little stressed, but I just I do like that they're like, we're not gonna win these challenges. We gotta like, we gotta game right now. Yeah, yeah. The challenge is interesting. We we walk in, it's it is a challenge we've seen before, and Jeff hints like straight away, there's gonna be a twist with whoever wins this challenge.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

I rolled my eyes here. I'm you know, I was just like, just play the game. But I also know there's not enough days left for us to have traditional tribals every night.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

This is exactly where I thought he shares winner gets immunity and an advantage for tonight's tribal, and there will be a twist. And I had the same thought of like, does it have to be another twist? I agree we need more people to go home from a numbers perspective. But but who set that system up? Like who who chose to have 24 players? One of them Medivac themselves. So, what was the plan? What was the plan? Like, it is interesting to see. Like, I I have sympathy for the fact that they need to start speeding things along, but at the same time, why start now?

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Like, why not earlier in the season? There every time there was only one tribe given immunity, you know, instead of two.

SPEAKER_02 17:48

That's a great point.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

I did it it feels too late in the game to be losing people to systems of chance so often. And and yet, but the challenge is fun, it's it's one where they're like floating on a pyramid. I was honestly, I'm proud of Zuri that she always tries, like she never just jumps in the water and is like, it's not gonna be me. This like Rizzo sometimes does. The youngest and the oldest, they're trying their hardest, and I think they did a good job.

SPEAKER_03 18:16

Yes, and as they move to the final stage, I made a note I said, if you watch them when they all have to lift their feet and stand on one foot, Tiff did not lift her foot at the same time. I think she cheated. I wrote that down, and then Jeff said, Wait, wait, there's an issue, and he went off, and they were standing there waiting, and I was like, Oh my gosh, is this what the issue is? And they had announced Tiff is the winner. He comes back and he says, We have five judges, we have standards and practices watching. And I realized they have to have standards and practices legally because this is a competition to win money, so they need to make sure that it is fair. Oof. This was thrilling to watch. How often are we seeing the results of the challenge?

SPEAKER_00 19:07

This is the first time that I can remember. I'm I wow should have fact-checked myself to see like exactly. I've never, and like there might be times where something has happened, um, but it happens after. I think maybe one I kind of remember something with Wendell where he finished a puzzle, but he didn't call it first, and so they had to like relook and decide, but he was supposed to call it. The instruction said it. But this is the first time it's been like that dramatic where they declared a winner and like took it back. So that was wild. Um, I was so happy for Tiffany. I was like, my girl, I was standing up, I was clapping. I did not catch it. The first watch, I don't pay attention to the challenges, to be completely honest. And so um, that was so shocking. And upon rewatch, I was like, Tiffany girl.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

Yeah, her treatment, yeah. Like I said, I clocked it, I didn't even know I was supposed to be looking for it. And then I was like, this is thrilling. I'm glad they caught it. I'm but then as soon as that meant that Jonathan won, I was like, oh wait, never mind, take it back.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

Like do you feel like I I always said to Daniel while we were watching, I was like, I bet the twist just turned from a negative to a positive. Like I was like, I was like, oh, Jonathan won? Okay, let's make sure he gets double immunity and double tribal. So why don't you talk me through what what he won so much power?

SPEAKER_03 20:27

This is huge amounts of power at this stage in the game. They split into the two tribes, as you mentioned. They're drawing rocks, so it's totally random. Two groups of four, and then Jonathan gets to move between both of them. So they are isolated for the rest of the day, each going to tribal, and Jonathan gets to walk back and forth and cast a vote in both tribals. So he is basically, and I said this, he has this power to just lord over everybody for the rest of the day. It is my worst case scenario. I was like, the last thing I want to see is a man in power.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

Like I agree, but I also did think it wasn't, it's a good power, but it isn't like absurd. If everyone else wanted to do something that he didn't want to do, they still could. Yes. And I I did appreciate that it wasn't like he got a vote and a half at each one. He still only had immunity. People still have their idols, there's no nullifiers or anything out there. So I I but I I thought it was interesting. I know I wouldn't have gone to each beach so many times because I would have been tired.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

Yes, that and he was just walking leisurely, at least in the one shot we saw. I feel like those early conversations, I would I kind of in contrast to what you were saying, I would have been jogging to be like, I need to get this information. We've got limited time until tribal, and I'm not doing too many trips, so let's get this out of the way. Like, I was like, You're leaving, we'll get there. But here you're leaving Joe, Ozzy, Rizzo, and Aubrey alone for these dynamics to develop for so long before. You get there.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

I mean, you have an immunity neck because it's not you. So I would I would be a little more calm. I'd be like, I hope what I want happens, but if it doesn't, I'll survive. That's probably how like it. I thought it was interesting, like how much stake he took in the game. Like he is very interested, and he he is very involved in both sets of camp, which is interesting.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

I don't think that everybody who could have won this power would have been split between the two groups in the way that he was, and to have kind of that sway and being a one of the kind of arbiters of this decision. I guess maybe we talk first about Siri, Tiff, Devons, and Emily.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Yeah, let's call them Camp One.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

Okay, yeah. Camp One. Emily is scheming, and I love it. She says, let's be stupid and have some fun. Right. She and Devons know that Devons is a target, but he has the idol. And so Emily kind of sees the writing on the wall. Especially with Tiff and Cerie being as close as they are. Jonathan clearly not being on the nerd herds side of things. And Emily is like, well, I'm gonna tell everybody I can get Devin's to play his idol on me. Let's all get out Devins. And at first, I thought that was what she actually planned to do. And I kind of loved that. She, to your point, I think with the pot going up to $2 million, she talks a lot about how when I re-watched my last season, I feel like I was really passive and I didn't put up a fight, and I just let myself get eliminated. She decides I'm putting up a fight.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Right. She's like, I'm not going down without a fight. I'm gonna try everything I possibly can. And I thought she did a really masterful job at it. Like even so she's talking, it's Devins, herself, Emily, and Tiffany on the beach. Emily tells Devin, hey, I'm gonna talk to just Tiffany. And I was like, what a crazy thing to do if you're gonna ask Devins to play his idol on you, to like outwardly say, I'm just gonna talk to Tiffany right now. But then when she unveils her real plan, which is to tell everyone that Devin's is gonna play her idol on them, but then not do it. So only her and Devin's vote matters. Super smart plan.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

And I actually don't even think people didn't believe her. It's more that people didn't think Devin's would do that. It's not that, like, I think people believe Emily believes that she sold a lie really well.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

Yes, I think that's true. And some people did believe her. Like we get to tribal. If Sari had not had her extra vote, Emily would have done it.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

It was a tie of three to three, but there's because Sari has her extra vote, she is able to cast two for herself. And I think Tiff must have or two for Emily, Tiff must cast the third for Emily. But I think she did convince Jonathan until the revote. I didn't take as detailed notes on the vote this time. Yeah. Because somebody else voted for Devons, is the other issue.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

It's hard to know the rationale behind like if they truly were just splitting the votes in case there was an idol or not. Like it's hard to know the rationale, like if she actually convinced anyone. But I do think like Siri played her steel vote because she did not believe that Devons would play an idol for Emily.

SPEAKER_03 25:33

This is unfortunately, as soon as they they pulled the five votes and Jeff knew there was another one, and they say, Oh, somebody had an extra vote. There was six votes in that room. I was like, Oh, time for Emily to go home. Like, even though they had to do the revote, I know we've jumped all the way to tribal.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

I know I was like, oh, Jeff is here.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Do you have more on the beach specifically with camp one? No, I think I think there's more interesting stuff happening in the camp.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Yeah, yeah, I can't too, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

But for Emily to go for Cree, like I said, for her to get so close, I didn't want to see it happen, but I was very the like these are two of my girls.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Yeah, it's how you want to go out. Like you want to go out swinging. I do love, I think to our point earlier on like where how convinced Jonathan was, he was a little zoned out. Like Emily gave him the plan. He's like, I think now is the perfect time to do what you just said. Like he can't even repeat it back there. Like he doesn't know what's going on. But it I okay, the only other thing I did want to say about this group. I had a moment where where Tiffany and Jonathan were talking about camp two and what they want to happen over there. And they're saying Ozzy, though they kind of had incredible chemistry in that moment.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Do you know what I'm talking about? It's like, am I shipping these two? I was like, the energy has changed. It was they were so aligned on getting Ozzy out.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

I was like, I could I could you're talking about when they're like on the beach and they're like, are we both thinking the same thing right now? And then she maybe says Ozzy and he like sits up.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

They like yeah, and they're like giggling and like having a moment, and it's definitely like a survivor moment, but I did just kind of I was like, wait, I think I ought to I would have liked this. Like if Jonathan could have been one of the girls the whole time.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

Yes, well, they I know they cut they tried.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

They until he cut out Camilla, he was in the until he they cut the girls cut out Charlie. Yes, that's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Sometimes the girls do things too. And Charlie would have been one of the girls, yeah, for sure. He would have been happy to drive Jonathan eventually.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

That is so funny. I didn't know immediately what you were talking about, but actually, as we just had a moment, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Okay, sorry. Now we can talk about. I mean, speaking of, this is so this is Jonathan kind of has his marching orders now to go over and get rid of Ozzie. He so we have Aubrey, Ozzy, Aubrey, Ozzy, Rizzo, and Joe. Um, and the first thing we see, this is the the wildest thing I've ever seen in Survivor, especially by a five-time player.

SPEAKER_03 28:08

Ozzie, Oussie, Aussie.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Just goes and spells his guts to Aubrey.

SPEAKER_03 28:13

What he's doing, it's his hubris. He's like, Well, Aubrey. He thinks he literally says this in a confessional, I think. Like, oh, he thinks he's doing jury management.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

He thinks he's doing jury management.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

She's not on the jury yet. Like, she he he's like, Well, Aubrey, since you're going home tonight, let me tell you about my amazing gameplay so that you vote for me in the final. Literally.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

Do you know how he starts the conversation? He says I really want to. You have no idea how much I want to win this game. And if you go to someone and say that, you have to be like, So you and me were lucky. Like, we're Yes! Like, that's not how you say it. No. You want someone's a vote. You don't tell them that they're out of the game. Especially if you're not gonna play your idol that night. If you're gonna act like that around camp, you need to play your idol.

SPEAKER_03 29:02

But the whole thing is hubris. All of it is pride of being like, well, here, Aubrey, let me tell you how I'm gonna win because you've already so gracefully accepted defeat at my hands. So take it. And that's it's the same motivation to tell Aubrey his secrets, is that oh, she's already going. It's a foregone conclusion. So he doesn't play his idol because it's the same assumption.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

And I get it that he feels such trust with the boys that he feels he can do this. However, you you don't know what Aubrey has. What if Aubrey has an idol? Why would you tell her about active advantages in the game? Like the fact that he tells her about Sari's extra vote and there is Jonathan who can go back and forth. Like, if if Suri wasn't aligned with Jonathan, he could have just ruined Sari's game. Yes. Thank goodness she is. It's okay. Everything worked out on Sari's end, but he was not thinking.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

No, he is just shooting himself in the foot. And I was so excited for Aubrey to tell Jonathan everything because this is her saving Grace. This is where I felt, oh no, for Siri. Because I agree. Ozzy, she's not there to save Ozzie. The drawing of the rocks and having her be isolated from Ozzie and Rizzo puts her in a really difficult position because they have this go-between of Jonathan, very like she she ends up getting kind of lucky, but she's in a really tough position.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

I want to know what their code word was, though. I was like, can you work the code word into a conversation with Jonathan? Really?

SPEAKER_03 30:41

I thought she was gonna be like, just tell Ozzie to eat a banana and it'll be fine. Like, I like I really thought she was gonna try. But she's not, she's playing her game first and foremost, and she's like, I'm I can't risk my game by defending Ozzy too much.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

I know, but it's also interesting because I do think the reason she's defended Ozzie so much to this point is that she believes he's the only person who will see her to the end who wants to be with her in the final. Yeah. And it's what's interesting about his confessions to Aubrey, which were all true as far as we can see, is he was planning on bringing Sari to the very end. Yes. So Sari is so there's a couple back and forth, but what she does try to do is she's like, Jonathan, tell tell Rizzo about this.

SPEAKER_03 31:25

Well, and this comes up because Jonathan tells Joe, let's do Aussie. And there's nothing Joe hates more than a second option. I know. He hates the idea of a blindside or a surprise. He's like, Yeah, no, there's an obvious choice. We go for the obvious choice. Like, why would we do anything else? It's Aubrey, of course it's Aubrey. And he's like, Well, I'm not doing this unless we loop in Rizzo. Like, we can't blindside Rizzo. We need to. And I think Rizzo is a lover of the game and respects the game enough that like he would not mind being left out of a vote. I genuinely think that Rizzo, he didn't mind that Devons was throwing his name around. Like, I think he respects the game of Survivor enough. Who knows? I've not seen his most recent season, but like he's never really tough.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

I think it's hard to know. I and because Ozzy, I think it depends if it was his number one ally and they were actually tight, like he was in his first season, he might not. I don't know if he'd take that well. Um, but be because I just don't think I just really resent the idea that like you respect the game so you don't have feelings about what happens.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

We've talked about a couple times, like but I again don't think that being left out of the vote is like a personal attack.

SPEAKER_00 32:35

Yeah, I think I think sometimes it is. I think sometimes in this instance it wouldn't have been, and Rizzo's aligned, so it's fine. But I just that's the only thing. But I think with this one, it's interesting that Joe, I just it is interesting that that is one of Joe's things because I don't see a relationship with Joe and Rizzo. No, um, yeah, this one specifically wasn't is definitely not an attack, and so it's interesting, and he's like, You did tell Aubrey everything, including that Siri is your plan, not me. He specifically said, not Rizzo.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

And I love, yeah, Jonathan going back to Siri and and looping and her being like, No, you should loop in Rizzo. If that's what Joe needs to make this happen, you should tell Rizzo. That is big brain planning because she's trying to like blow it up from the inside. She's like, I need Rizzo to get this intel back to Ozzy. This is her last chance. But once Rizzo is looped in and he hears it, and yeah, he was not a part of Sir, he was not a part of Ozzie's plans. He was not named as part of this alliance, which is good for him. But I think again, he is not afraid to play the game. And so this is when as soon as Joe looped him in or Jonathan looped him in, I was like, he'll blindside Ozzie.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

Well, especially because I just think I and the reason I am okay with all this, like, and not heartbreaking for my you know fave player is he made a huge mistake. Like, there's just no justifying laying out your game plan for anyone. Like, if you make it to final, you will have the opportunity to explain your game at Final Tribal. Do not try and start do that now. And like, what if he ended up in the final three with anyone but Suri? Now is his like whole plan that he lay out for Aubrey not relevant? Like, there you were at final nine. There is a lot of game left. Yeah, there's just no reason it makes any sense. And it's just so funny because I'm like, you he gets away from Sari for five minutes and he doesn't want to play the game.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

And that's the thing. I feel like I've been saying this. He hasn't known how to play the game the whole season. He's like, I've been playing such a better game, I've been playing a really social game. No, you've just been getting carried by Sari, which is fine, but he doesn't realize that's what's happening.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

I know, and that's and it's hard because like again, he he decided to value those things for the first time, but he's just not a very like I love him, and that's what like and because I've been saying from the beginning, I do not think it made any sense. It's my husband's winner pick of Tabazi. I didn't I've never thought that made sense. But it is just hard to watch because I really just don't think he has that like depth. Like it is, he just it's just not a capability he has, and so in his mind, this is the most social game he can play, even though it's just cheating off of Suri's homework.

SPEAKER_03 35:23

Yeah, yeah, literally. When this group gets to tribal, Emily has been recently banished, and I love that she just gets sent straight to jury and they see her sitting there.

SPEAKER_00 35:37

Like, I do want to talk a little bit. I thought Emily played a flawless tribal, though. Like she was kind of doing she was kind of doing like a meta game in saying the right thing, answering the questions really well, like not giving too much or too little. I did want to give I wanted to give her credit. And Devons does end up playing the idol for himself.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

Which was technically everyone's plan, just she does still get voted out.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

Which was Emily's plan. Yeah. Was for him to soak up all of the useless votes. And again, the because Sari played her extra vote, there were six votes. That means only I think Sari and either Tiffer Jonathan voted for Emily in the first round of votes. Like she did, she would have had it if she didn't have the extra vote. So Emily played a really good final day, I think. She did everything she could. It's very interesting in contrast between these two groups. Aubrey is another kind of similar player in a similar position of kind of the like analytical woman who is in her last ditch effort. But her gambit of being like, let me be the smoke screen, take out Ozzie works out in her favor.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

I think because she's like there, it's a more obvious smoke screen for Aubrey to just being the one. Yes. There were complicated dynamics with Devon's and Devon's having an open idol, like there was a lot going on there.

SPEAKER_03 37:06

And Sari did not make the mistakes that Ozzie did. Like, yeah, Ozzie handed himself up on a silver platter for Aubrey to use.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

And Sari is just so well connected. Like, I do not think I do not think of Jonathan and Siri as tight, but she's like, as soon as she gets on the beach, she's like, I'm using a relationship with Jonathan. I'm like, of course you have a relationship with Jonathan. Like, she's just she's so good at the game. Uh so yes, like you said, Emily goes, you know, to tribal and she literally walks straight over there. It's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 37:35

I wondered, like, yeah, if the order of operations would have changed anything if they had seen that somebody else had like imagine they won't get Surrey's sitting at tri like at Jury.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

Do they yeah?

SPEAKER_03 37:46

Oh crazy.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

She's like mouthing Ozzie the key.

SPEAKER_03 37:51

She's she's just drawing button, she's drawing letters in the air. She's like, I can't talk, but you didn't say I couldn't spell with my finger. So poor Ozzie.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

I will say, like, I was so heartbroken for him. Like, it is hard to watch. I and because I saw him at a watch party.

SPEAKER_03 38:16

Yes, I was thinking about this.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

I felt like I knew he didn't win from that. Just like his energy is like grateful, but not jubilant. Um, and so I felt like there's no way he's gonna win. And I and it was hard to watch him like be backstabbed. He really trusted these men. And I know I was, I will be honest, I was cringing a little bit. I like people to go out gracefully. I agreed, but I like also people to be like honest with themselves. Like, I am also like, I it is I I don't want people to fake it like for reality TV. You know what I'm trying to say?

SPEAKER_03 38:51

Like, yeah, no, I think I don't mean to laugh at him. I was cringing, like it was just a lot. I was like, this is hard to watch. Yeah, and then for him to just like at every opportunity be like, this is awful, this is awful. I can't believe you guys. I'll there's no more time to explain. You can't explain. And then he gets up to Jeff and he's just like he like turns around over his shoulder and he's like, I can words can never explain the pain of this feeling. And then he's like staring at them with his sad puppy dog.

SPEAKER_00 39:25

I'm like, dude, at some point, you do have to like take it on the chin because I wonder this is a miss the boat situation that like uh you don't know Aussie for like six you know what I mean? Like it is because a lot of people are.

SPEAKER_03 39:38

But these are all players playing the same game, they all have the same opportunities.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

A lot of the other icons did get more of a swan song last tribal where they kind of knew they were leaving, people spent time buttering them up. And I think he was I mean, Jonathan did say he always wanted to be an Aussie, so that was like a sweet thing, but he would he was not, and so like I do think there's a little bit I agree, but I but the juiciest tribals are when you like have drama, and I like that. And like, yes, I was cringing, so like I don't want to like critique you for too much, but I'm I am also like this is he's played the most. I mean, it's he and he broke the record, he thought he was gonna break the record of most amount of times uh winning an individual immunity, but he actually broke the record of most amount of times anyone's gotten their torch snuffed because a lot of the other people who are there have made it to final multiple times.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

Oh well, and I will say he gets up to Jeff, and the one part where I was like, ooh, that kind of makes my blood run cold is when he's like, I had a dream about this last night.

SPEAKER_00 40:41

That is and that's where that's where I say, Sir, like, even if like you had a dream last night and Siri told you this morning, you're like guiding lights both told you to play the freaking idol, and you didn't. That is where I guess I go back to like Ozzie, focus, like just play it.

SPEAKER_03 41:01

Yeah, people you were warned, hypnos, the god of dreams, was trying to tell you something last night.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

Your dad is like coming through the 30s. I play the idol.

SPEAKER_00 41:11

Oh yeah, I I that was really sad. I just I I don't I I have a soft spot for Ozzie, so I have a hard time hearing critiques, but I mean it was it was it was hard to watch, man. It was hard to watch.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

Yeah, he he made good choices at the beginning of the game. Like, I won't say that he like played a good game of his own merit, but like he made a good choice at the beginning of the game that led to his success, and it is telling that as soon as they are separated, I know he's gone.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

I know. And I did I think similarly to Jonathan. I think both Jon Jonathan and Ozzie, I think Jonathan is a lot smarter than Ozzie. I just hope I never like meet these people. Um, but I do think that Ozzy, I think both of them are playing the best game with the tools they were given. Like in the same way that I don't love how Jonathan gaslights and seasons to be with the men, like he is playing what he knows he can do well, and I think Ozzy did the same thing where he's like, I'm going to make a connection with Siri. I'm going to get to the end with Siri. Like, there was never a world where I think he beats Siri though. So like it just didn't really make a lot of sense. But I know he wanted to win so bad, and I just I wish I could have just I wish I could have held his hand, man. As he told Aubrey, I just want to win this so bad. So bad. That is so like what logical reason is there to do. I just he must have been hungry. He must have been hungry. All right. Lel tell me what you thought about these two before we before we dove in.

SPEAKER_03 42:46

Emily, I said, I'm not really getting much from this picture. Maybe she's a dark horse wallflower lady whistledown type. Okay. Which this girl does love spilling some secrets.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

So yeah, she does.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

If she if she could have written a newspaper to distribute amongst the island, she would have.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

I know. I'm just trying to think of like how I would have described her going in. And she played so differently this time. Like it's it's not even, but it is funny how she just did not keep a secret in. But that was not her downfall, which is interesting. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

Exactly. Yeah. And then Ozzie, I just said, um, something doesn't seem right here. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

Oh my gosh. We'll still consider me an Ozzy girl. I still love him. I thought this was a really fun, like a good season for him. I wish, like I said, he just got a little bit more of that like swan song exit of like people being a little like just acknowledging, because I I He is the youngest of the players who've played so many times, because I think he said he's first he was like 18 the first time he played. So there's a possibility he'll come back. But if that is his exit forever, I will be kind of sad.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

I see.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

You know, I don't really want him to play again, but I want him to have had a better exit from the game.

SPEAKER_03 44:20

I was definitely more sad about Emily leaving. Like she's more of a winner pick for me than Ozzie was, but um I was thinking of your husband. I know Ozzie was his pick, so I was sad that it's just the difference of like the legacy in the game, though, too.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

Like, you know, like it's just Emily's so new. Emily probably can play again, surely, where Ozzie has played for so long. It's such an icon. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 44:45

Yeah, but so few of them are gonna win. Yeah. Of all the people who play.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

But he had a bad exit. It doesn't matter. I don't care that he lost. I care that I care that he was like blindsided and didn't take it well.

SPEAKER_03 44:57

You know what I mean? Yes. That's all fair. I've I'm like, it was a very clearly definable mistake on his part. Like 100%. It was like true to him. Like it wasn't a But that's like what's disadvantage or bad about it. This is but this is something that's like he is going out on the merit of his own game and not on an idle get-in or not on like a trick of the production. It is just he didn't play a very good game for his own devices.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Right. I wish he got and I wish that didn't happen. Like, I wish all of that didn't happen I wish is.

SPEAKER_03 45:31

But that I think you would need Ozzie to be not Ozzie if you didn't want that to happen.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

Like that's a great exactly like so. I wish he had grown. Like I just because in in the way that like if this was a written show, I wish you got the same like exit Kobe did. Like, I just feel like they both are such great players of the game. And I just am so sad that like he I don't know. Like, if he just played the idol and he was out next week for the same mistakes, I would have felt just a little bit better. But that's okay. It happened, it's real life. Um, I'm so interested to see who's in the final now because I did also in my head have Siri's Wizard of Oz. I hate that name. I hate that name. And now I and like I was like, Si can win that. I just I think the other part that's so sad is like I do not see a way for Siri to the final without Ozzy.

SPEAKER_03 46:24

I do think my my first thought of like who would take her is Tiff, but actually that's not the case. I think that Tiff is maybe her next closest ally, like you said, they've kind of but Tiff is not afraid to throw somebody under the bus.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

I don't think anyone would.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Maybe like there's a weird world where like Devons and Siri end up at the end, but I don't think Devons will make it to the end on his own game. Like, I I think he's one of the remaining players that could, for the like chaos of it all or the spectacle of it all, take Suri with him, but I don't think he will get it.

SPEAKER_00 47:04

Rizzo's too smart. It could be like potentially a Joe. But I don't see Joe going to the end.

SPEAKER_03 47:15

There are, I mean, we've got seven people left, and we're what gonna narrow it down to final three that go to Final Tribal.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

Well, there well, the four at fire determine the final three. So there is the fire of it all that could like, but I just can't imagine who would I don't see a world where Sari survives two episodes from now.

SPEAKER_03 47:37

But Joe doesn't like a blind side, he doesn't like underhanded eliminations, and the only way Siree is getting out is with a blind side, so maybe Joe like won't be like I don't think Joe can justify getting Suri out on like her despicable behavior in the game, like he justifies everybody else that he has.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

I think he could though, just because she's gonna win, he would just be honest about it, and Sri would have to like find an idol. Maybe you know, like he I don't think it's a it has to be a blind side, unfortunately. That would get her out. He just would think of it, he would just be honest and open with her about it. The only way she milks the Devin's Joe beef Rizzo's still aligned with her, so she survives another day. Or two.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

I mean because I think you could get both of those. I think Joe or Jonathan will go, and then like Devin's or Aubrey will go, and then you have final five.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

I think right now my winners are Aubrey or Jonathan.

SPEAKER_03 48:47

I'm really enjoying Aubrey, but her pulling out a win from this season would be kind of wild.

SPEAKER_00 48:55

I agree. I guess I guess I'm unfortunately considering the edit. Like, I don't I'm not doing it consciously, but I'm just like she's been the main character like two times in a row now.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

Yes. I do think we are lacking for a main character since Christian went home. So like I yeah, but maybe that more informs your theory of like, well, they're pivoting now to the winner. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

And we're seeing Rizzo's confessionals a lot less. I've noticed. It's true.

SPEAKER_03 49:21

Because he's become more likable.

SPEAKER_00 49:23

I hate his yeah, I exactly. And so I'm like, you know, we're just seeing we're just seeing things. I don't know. I can't see the future. I've been wrong so many times. I mean, obviously, Tiffany was my number one day one winner pick. It would be crazy if she won.

SPEAKER_03 49:42

I wonder who or how she would get to final three.

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Well, I think she'd be the goat. I think there's actually a pretty good chance she'll get to final three. I just don't think she'll win. She hasn't really done that. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 49:56

She doesn't have like a case to make for the game that she's played.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

And unfortunately, again, I might be considering that a little bit. Like, I'm like, we just haven't seen Tiffany. Like, that would be wild for her to win and just show us so little of her until now. So I'd be interested. I don't know. I think my only like not winner is Joe. I think I feel pretty confident that it's not gonna be Joe.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

Well, I would if I had to wish for an elimination next week, it probably is Joe.

SPEAKER_00 50:27

Yeah. I just don't know. I think he's in a good spot, unfortunately. Unless Devin's gets some type of crazy twist. But he doesn't hate Joe as much as Joe hates Devons.