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Behind the Bugles: The Story Behind Saratoga's Legendary Sound

Noel McLaren & Zac Denham Season 2 Episode 1

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Welcome back! Season 2 of Off Track Saratoga is officially underway, and Noel and Zac are kicking things off from the porch of the National Racing Hall of Fame with two of Saratoga's most recognizable voices—the Saratoga Buglers, Tony and Carson Gambaro.

Every racing day, thousands of fans hear their iconic "Call to the Post," but few know the incredible father-son story behind the tradition.

In this episode, we talk about:

🎺 How they unexpectedly became the Saratoga Buglers after the legendary Sam the Bugler

🏇 What it's like performing before every race at Saratoga Race Course

🎶 Their favorite songs to surprise fans with—including Eminem, Careless Whisper, Mission Impossible, and more

👨‍👦 What it's like sharing one of Saratoga's most cherished traditions as a father and son

🎤 Behind-the-scenes stories from Travers Day, Belmont, birthdays, celebrity encounters, and unforgettable moments around the track

Plus, we're introducing a brand-new "Porch Sittin'" series, where we'll be recording from some of Saratoga's most iconic front porches all season long.

If you love Saratoga Springs, horse racing, local history, or simply great stories, this is the perfect way to kick off Season 2.

🎙️ New episodes every Tuesday.

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Zac

And just like that, season two is off to the races.

Noel

We back. We on track, off track.

Zac

Exactly.

Noel

Ooh. I'm Emmy Award-winning journalist Noel McLaren.

Zac

And I'm local business owner Zac Denham. And this is Off-Track Saratoga Podcast.

Noel

Sometimes we're on track.

Zac

Sometimes we're a little off.

Noel

But it's always worth the listen. Welcome back to season two of Off-Track Saratoga Podcast. Took a little hiatus, but of course we had to come back in the biggest of all ways. We back with a bugle.

Zac

We've got some really uh great guests here with us today. Uh some uh, I guess local icons, if you will, of the Saratoga track.

Noel

Carson and Tony Gambaro. They are the Saratoga Buglers for the track. If you go to the races, you'll hear them no matter where you are, what seat you got.

Tony

Pretty much, yeah.

Noel

And they've got a really interesting story. They are a father-son team. They just took over a few years ago for Sam the Bugler.

Tony

It's our fifth year. Nice.

Noel

Wow. Unbelievable. You guys have been at it for a while. So this season, Zach and I decided we are going to do a series of porch sitting episodes. It's gorgeous out here in the spring summer in Saratoga. There's no better place to be. And so Zach from the South is trying to get everybody to join his porch sitting lifestyle.

Zac

Let us enjoy the simple luxury that is sitting on the porch, taking in the community. Uh, little cocktail, uh, spilling a little tea. We're gonna make it uh an upstate New York tradition. We're gonna make it a tradition.

Noel

This episode, we are coming from the National Racing Hall of Fame here in Saratoga, right off of Union Avenue. We can see the track from where we're sitting. It's a gorgeous day, and um we're just excited to kick off this series. We'll be coming to you from a bunch of different front porches all across downtown. Um, if you know of an interesting front porch, whether whether it's a residence or a business, yeah, hook us up, let us know. We'd love to stop by and record from you. That's kind of what's special about this show is we kind of just be part of off-track talk. You can be part of off-track talk, we can shoot from on location and uh just excited. Tell us a bit about your story.

Tony

Well, basically, um I got a call from Sam, the previous bugler, on a Thursday, and he told me that he wasn't going to be able to be at the track that year. And he did know whether I was interested in not in doing it, but that he told Naira that I would know people up here in the area that could cover it.

Noel

So you knew Sam before?

Tony

Yes, yes, for a lot of years.

Noel

Sam is how how long was Sam the bugler?

Tony

Sam was almost 30 years, I think. Wow.

Noel

Yeah, he he was a staple.

Tony

Which is really knowing how difficult it is and how long these days are, it's quite a feat.

Noel

Yeah, yeah.

Tony

So then he uh he basically said, Can I give Pat McKenna your number? I said, sure. Well, five minutes later I got a call from Pat McKenna. And then I told him, I said, give me the weekend to uh try to figure this out for you. Well, that was on Friday. On Saturday morning I woke up. He was just coming home from college because he had graduated, um, and I'm like, you know what? The only way that him and I uh I can do this is that if I involve him to do the days I'm not able to do. It's very difficult to find someone for 30, 40, 50 days in a rock. Yeah.

Noel

And you you, I mean, this isn't your only job. Right.

Tony

So with Sam, it was his only job. Right. You know, and he was actually an employee for Naira. Yeah. We're not.

Noel

Okay.

Tony

So we just work here, and and and basically we'll go to a track or two if they ask us for a single day or something, but we have lives. Okay, yeah. So fast forward to the Wednesday prior to our first day, we were we came for a walkthrough because we needed to know we were gonna where we were gonna hang our hat. Sound check the mic, uh, just basically how things go. And so we met um Pat and and some of the people from Naira down at the winter circle. And then all of a sudden the marketing people came up. Uh, there was about six of them, and then the sound guy came down and he and and I happened to know him, but I didn't know he worked here.

Speaker 2

Right.

Tony

Sound engineer. And so he basically pulled the mic out, he told us about the button, the switch on the on the mic to turn it on and turn it off before every race. And then he said, Carson, you're gonna do it first. Carson played it first, perfect. I played it, and then I played it, and then he said, I was gonna say what she did then, perfect. And then uh the sound guy just said, for the heck of it, let's just hear the two of you play it together. And so if you can envision the Warner Circle with the flowers, the marketing team was behind the flowers, and all you could see were their heads.

Noel

No pressure.

Tony

We play it together, and he's looking through the flowers like this, and he's like, I need both your cell phone numbers immediately. This is gonna blow up. I need you here at 6 a.m. on opening day. You're gonna do interviews on 6, 10, and 13. All of this stuff. It was almost it was a whirlwind.

Zac

So would you say uh it was uh the easiest interview you've ever went through in your life?

Tony

Yeah.

Noel

Because he he played it really well. He knocked out of the park. You just played it, you said.

Tony

Well, no, well, I played it well too. Can you come can you come in? Can you can you cover me?

Carson

You gassed me up. I don't know what to do.

Noel

You did that to yourself there. I love your dynamic.

Tony

It cracks me up because like you have no idea this guy.

Zac

So how did this how did this start? So uh, I mean, I know when I was in sixth grade, I had to go to for what okay, so no but let's run it back. So before we started recording today, Noelle mentioned something about an instrument petting zoo. I have literally never heard that term in my life.

Noel

My school, my eight-year-old school, in order to introduce instruments and to children in the elementary school, they do something called an instrument petting zoo. So they all get to come and look at here and test out all the instruments that are available to them to play.

Zac

I absolutely understand conceptually, I 100% understand it. I had just never heard or referred to that way, right? Right. And I know as a when I was in sixth grade, I had a an instrument thing zoo experience. They didn't call it an instrument. I chose, I chose the trumpet.

Speaker 2

You played the trumpet!

Zac

And I, yeah, Googler. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're giving me too much credit. Oh my god. So I I I I know what it's like to be a young person and be exposed to, you know, the and have a curiosity as I've always been a musical person. Right. So having that natural curiosity and stuff. So I would love to kind of hear where did it pique your curiosity?

Carson

I mean, it was kind of a natural decision when selecting my instrument, although I was very tempted to choose the saxophone because the cool kids were all playing the sax. News flash, none of the cool kids are still playing sax today. There were no girls playing the colour.

Tony

More girls are attracted to sex than trumpet. Oh, first.

Noel

Is that a is there like a study on that?

Tony

Uh no, it's just a visual I see all the time.

Noel

I played the oboe. What's the attraction for that?

Zac

I absolutely blame nothing. Um I absolutely understand. I blame the um, what was it, the sexy sacks of the 1980s? Oh, the Kenny J.

Carson

Little do you know that careless whisper can be played on a trumpet, too.

Noel

Wait, I want to hear it.

Carson

Okay, I need to hear it now.

Speaker 2

Screaming.

Noel

Carson, are you single?

Carson

Wow. 25 years going strong. Okay, here we go.

Zac

Wait, wait, I love that. I love that so much. Um I think that's it, that's your that's your actual calling is uh Carson's covers.

Noel

Carson's covers.

Zac

Anything that is a uh that would have been a sexy sex solo, you can take it to the trumpet. I can do more than that. I love it. So as a father, right, who had this uh musical curiosity or this musical um attachment, how did you uh uh encourage or discourage Carson's curiosity?

Tony

I didn't encourage him. He happened to just see me playing out at uh with bands that I've been in over the years growing up. And you know, if I think back, he would literally stand in front of me, and you know, if I hit the big note or a high note or something, he just, you know, he's he was he was jumping around like crazy. So just bored the day he came home with an instrument. I didn't realize until mommy, wife, Cindy, called and told me, guess what he came home with? And I said, What? She goes trumpet. I go, Oh my god. And so we literally I literally never set him up for it. And um, and here we are. I I I still can't believe it to this day that we do what we do over here at the track as well as we play in my band together.

Noel

Yeah, so you guys aren't just the Saratoga Buglers. You guys it's it's came from somewhere. They knew to contact you for a reason. Yeah. So tell tell us about who you were before you were the buglers.

Tony

Personally, I had been playing in groups around here for many years. I was on the road prior to that. I played with Bon Jovi, Tower of Power. Nice. I had a mullet, yeah. Very cool. Uh this is where we insert the photo of said mullet. I'm actually originally from Gloversville. Okay. And I landed I landed here in Saratoga and uh met his mother, and that was it. I decided to not go on the road and played ever since, and here we are.

Noel

You were kind of destined for this, I think a little bit.

Tony

Well, at my age right now, I'm thinking about it. It couldn't have been a better thing that could have happened to me. It's awesome.

Noel

And to share it with him is just talk about the father-son dynamic and how that has made the job either more special or more complicated or it's it's part of our chemistry, you could say, that I more or less acknowledge on a day-to-day basis.

Carson

And that ultimately makes the job easier when we're together because let's face it, not every day is gonna be easy, not every day is gonna be perfect, but when we have each other to cover for each other, it definitely takes the weight off of each other's shoulders. It allows us to have an overall greater musical and emotional impact on this beautiful place.

Noel

Would you say it's strengthened your bond as like a father-son do?

Carson

Or would you say it tests it, but through those trials and tribulations, you could definitely say it strengthens it. Yeah.

Noel

Do you guys get interesting requests at the track?

Carson

Oh, yeah.

Noel

What is like probably, or what are some of your most interesting requests that you've gotten? Because you, yes, you play at the starting gate for every race.

Speaker 2

Yep.

Noel

And then you have time in between.

Zac

Yeah.

Noel

What are some of the requests you get in between?

Zac

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Carson

What are some of their quests you get in between? Oh man, some of the wildest ones I could think of are like rap songs. Like this one time, I don't know if you guys are familiar with Alex Day.

Speaker

He does like so Yeah. Oh wow.

Carson

He was doing like a rapper or a racehorse trivia, and at the end of it, I I think he like asked me, you know, like the typical question that you ask at the end of an interview. What is there anything else you wanted to share? And I said, Did you know I'm a rapping bugler and I played without me by Eminem?

Noel

Can I hear it?

Carson

This looks like a job for me. So everybody, just follow me because we need a little controversy because it feels so empty without me.

Zac

I feel like I've officially been replaced.

Noel

Do you play any Britney Spears?

Zac

This guy a show. I couldn't.

Noel

I think Zach would. I could.

Zac

I could.

Noel

You won't. He's gonna get up and dance. A demon out of Zach.

Zac

So you know this is a good one. Wait, I love, I love knowing all of your party tricks. You're hired for any party I need. Absolutely. All right, so speaking of, we have to talk. Uh, if anybody, if you follow Noelle, um, her personal socials, it was her mom, uh, Diane, uh, the iconic Diane.

Noel

The iconic Diane.

Zac

Uh it was her birthday recently. And so Don't say her age.

Noel

She'll kill you.

Zac

No, it was just a celebration. It was a celebration, it was her 21st birthday. And so you came out, right? And did a surprise little performance. Tell us tell our audience about that.

Noel

My mom was a high school music teacher, and she loves Yeah, she was she loves music. And she made a big stink about the year before we went to a steakhouse and they brought out the cake, but they just brought a candle and they didn't sing happy birthday. And she was not about that. She loves a good happy birthday. So when I kept asking her, what do you want? What can I give you for your birthday? She was like, All I want is someone to sing happy birthday to me. I'm like, Oh, you're gonna get a happy birthday this year, woman. So I reached out to Tony because I found if you if you want to hire these guys, by the way, you can. How can they find you?

Carson

Saratoga Buglers.

Noel

Saratoga Buglers.

Carson

Saratoga Buglers on their Instagram.

Tony

Go to the mic, on their Instagram or Facebook, but we don't have a website, but our phone number, our things are wider.

Noel

That's how I found them. It's very simple. You don't have to be an investigative journalist to find them. So yeah, anyway, I reached out to them and I was like, listen, we gotta embarrass my mom, but not really. We also gotta make her have a lot of fun. So I I got in touch with Tony, Carson was available, and he came to Salivo restaurant where we celebrated her dinner her birthday dinner. You played happy birthday on the trumpet and in the middle of the restaurant, and everybody was looking, and I I may have embarrassed her a little bit, but she liked it, and it was awesome. It was hilarious.

Speaker 2

I thought it was a good thing.

Noel

Everybody like gave applause, and it was just it was so special. She still talks about it to the day. She to this day. We have it on video. She was like crying. It was fantastic.

Carson

This is where this was before the instrument petting zoo that you told me about. I was I was I I got the chance to talk to your to your boys about all the joys of music, and I'm glad to see that that's at least had somewhat of a positive effect, more or less directly.

Noel

Well, do you know before we haven't even been to the instrument petting zoo yet? That's next week. And did you know what Max, since he met you, has chosen, my older guy?

Carson

I heard through the grapevine that was either one of these or one of those big upright bass things.

Noel

Maybe one or both, because I think he can pick both. So um, yeah, we maybe Max's the next bugler. I don't know. You can pass the torch or the bugle to him if you will. So yeah, I mean, it's a long season. We're kind of in the thick of it right now. And what are some of like the the high notes, if you will, of being a Saratoga bugler and what gets a little old?

Tony

Geez, I don't know that anything gets old. Because you know what makes it interesting for us is it's different every day. Yeah. You meet different people every day. We're really tight with many of the employees here. They help us out, they have our phone numbers. If they have a a birthday in their section, they text us. It's we've made a lot of relationships, not only with the workers, but locally with people. And um, I think he actually used to tell me this it's just different every day. Yeah.

Noel

And I feel like going from that to like some other kind of job has got to be deflating a little bit.

Tony

I got a 10-piece band, so you know.

Noel

That's that's also exciting. What what are you doing, Carson, when you're not bugling for the track? Because it's a you know, it's a it's a short season.

Carson

I mean, I also play in the band and I also announce, well, human racing, track and feel. That's my main sport. I try and carry out that passion on the mic whenever I get the chance.

Noel

Nice. So when you say you're announcing, like you're at local games. Some local, some far beyond players. Wow, like what's a cool game that you've announced?

Carson

Well, a cool meat that I've announced is the Pen Relays Carnival, one of the coolest. It's a big one. He's no joke.

Noel

How do you get into that? Like, what'd you go to school for?

Carson

New house. To school for broadcast journalism.

Noel

Okay, so yeah, all right. So a friend.

Zac

I do have some hard-hitting journalism that I'd like to um uh take advantage of today.

Noel

Okay.

Zac

I really, really I woke up this morning getting ready for this interview, and I thought it would be I would be doing our audience a disservice if I didn't ask those questions. Okay. Oh. Gentlemen. Yep. How many buglers is too many buglers? Three.

Carson

I'd say based on scene at the national stage, more than five would be too many. More than five. Because they have done some really cool fanfares with like the I I don't know exactly what they're called, but it's like they bring out an elite regiment of buglers and they play that call to post in five different harmonies, and it's absolutely gorgeous.

Tony

We play like um um preludes to the call on on bigger race days. Oh, cool. You know, on the stakes races. Right, right. And we have a bunch of them. Every I mean, so we'll see. Can we hear them?

Noel

Yeah, let's hear them.

Tony

Nice. I love it. So things that people know. Right. You know, nice and short. Naira wasn't really a fan of it at the first, but then the the uh people would tell them. They liked it. We'd walk around and people would say, What are you gonna play next before the race? I love it. And it was kind of cool. So we got things like Mission Impossible, the 20th century Fox.

Zac

Well, it gets it gets people engaged, and it also it's that element of surprise, right?

Noel

Oh, you're gonna listen if you're in shock, right? What's that?

Carson

Sometimes, I think there was this one time where there was like some power outage or something, and there was an extended delay in between races, and so coming out of the break, we played the Jeopardy theme.

unknown

I remember that.

Tony

Yeah, or for rain, or for rain, it's starting to rain, raindrops keep falling on my head just to begin. Bum babada. That's adorable. You know, just a quick thing. Everybody knows it.

Noel

You're really so much more than just like an official start to a race. You've become really part of the entertainment because the track is so much more than just like betting and racing. It's fashion, it's culture, it's music, and you guys add that special element to it that you know is really worth coming for, sitting for the entire race, especially for the people that aren't there just for the betting. Absolutely.

Tony

Our job is much uh so much more than just the call, although that is our main job. Sure. Okay, and that is a big deal. This is Hall of Ground, and we get to do it here together. But it's uh you have to entertain people, and uh, that's all we do all day long. We do really get busy.

Noel

It's a hospitality business.

Tony

Yeah, it is, yeah, yeah. And the girls with their social media over there kind of catch us in the backyard doing things. Yeah, and we do songs that are like sing-alongs. Next thing you know, you got a thousand people. We're standing on the picnic tables, you got a thousand people singing um, you know, hey Jude.

Noel

You know what I love about you guys too, because I've seen this happening live at the track, is you don't leave any part of the track untouched. You guys cover, you know, the fancier parts of the track, and you're at the picnic tables, and you're over at the kids' playground. You guys are everywhere. So I love that nobody gets left out of this experience. Yeah.

Tony

That's awesome.

Zac

Is there a particular race that you guys really get amped up for, like one that you look forward to every year?

Carson

I mean, you can't really look away from the big races in that because I mean, Sam really set this precedent because he talked about when he was asked if he ever got nervous for calling races because you know, you do it so many times. The answer he gave is like, you know, you could play that thing perfect a thousand times, but if you mess it up for the big race, then everybody's gonna remember that. And so televised understanding understanding the magnitude of that tradition, you want to match that with perfection on the horn.

Noel

Do you feel that pressure?

Carson

Like, does that we did? I think the first year or two we did, like Travers, you know, you uh But also our first Belmont together, which was last year, because they brought an entire brass band up from the city to play a little New York, New York fanfare. And then right as soon as that's done, there's this guy, the spotter guy, he comes flying, he just dips the fence, and then he points to you, gives a finger count, two, one, bang. And we're like, oh, okay, we gotta play now.

Tony

So we kind of know what we're doing when it comes to every day, the timing of it. We don't play till horse number one touches the track. We look down the rail, that's when we play. It could be six minutes before the race, nine minutes, whatever. Yeah. That's our signal to uh to do the call. Yeah. And then also alerts Frank, the announcer, to start talking about the lineup.

Zac

I never considered what you guys do as kind of being like uh benchmark in the process.

Tony

Those horses don't come out of the barn without us, baby. Yeah, I'm just kidding. But um, that day, the winner circle for the Belmont was elbow to elbow. We had never seen so many production people in everyone, whatever. And we're pretty much just waiting for somebody in front of us to give us a little heads up. This guy, as Carson said, came in from underneath the rail behind us and uh and startled us, quite frankly. It's showbiz, kid.

Noel

By the way, guys, if you're hearing lots of sounds, we are literally right on the opposite side of the track right now. And this is this is the only qualm with like you know, having a porch sitting episodes, you're gonna hear some ambient noise, you're gonna hear some traffic.

Zac

So just imagine you're here with us.

Noel

Yeah, just just pretend you're here with us.

Zac

Absolutely.

Noel

Um, so is there a moment where like you guys had a big gaffaw and it was like that like you you just have nightmares about? Um you don't want to talk about it.

Carson

Maybe one time where we had a birthday in the backyard and it was arranged for after the It might have been after the eighth race, and he went there after the seventh race. I had no idea where he was. So what do I do when I don't know where he is? I find a high location and I just start playing. From the clubhouse, and he'll sing it.

Tony

It's like a bugle call.

Noel

Oh, so you guys have like a bat signal for each other. Is there a specific song that you play to call it?

Tony

I just hear him. I know he's calling me.

Noel

For Zach, it would have to be toxic by Britney's fear. Zach will come running.

Zac

No, you just play it, I'll come running, baby. I love it. Well, you hear it here, folks. Anytime you see both of these fellas, it's a special day. Make sure you uh get up and say hi, introduce yourself. Let them know you heard them here.

Noel

Is there something that when people see you that you want them to like think or feel, or do you want them to come up to you? Do you want them to leave you alone? Like, what do you want when people see you? How do you want them to react?

Tony

Whatever they want.

Carson

Yeah, that's usually what I say. Although deep inside, I'm just waiting to be asked to play some Bruno Mars.

Noel

Yes, you can play Bruno Mars for me as well if you would like. The the the getup, the uniform. Where did this come from? Did you guys come come up with this idea? They provide it at Naira or what?

Tony

They were supposed to provide it, but then they called me and said we have no idea where to get things. Please call Sam and he'll tell you. Okay. Okay, so I called Sam, he told me where what kind of boots. Yeah.

Noel

You know? Specific bugler boots?

Tony

They're no, they're just it's a it's a brand, an ariant, whatever. And then the spats, which we don't have on today. The jackets were special red jackets from a company. So I ordered all this stuff. I ordered the real horse riding pants too. Nice. Because that's what you're supposed to have. Well, they came in the first the first set that came in wouldn't have fit a baby. So my wife found white jeans downtown at the saddlery store, whatever, the night before. The night before? Yeah, because it we only had two weeks. Okay. This came on really quickly. And so then I had already ordered the hats immediately from the San Diego hat shop. These are authentic Jackson. Beautiful Jackson Jackson hats. Okay. We have several of them at home.

Noel

I was gonna say, is it one outfit that you have to launder?

Tony

Some, you know, just pretty much. We've got several white shirts. Okay. We got a couple of red vests that we use. So the typical outfit is t t is a red jacket.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Tony

Well, they were on back order. Whoa! So I'm like, Who else is ordering these things? Three days before I ordered these vests from Amazon.

Noel

Yeah.

Tony

Because I knew I, you know, you know how that works. You order it at 11 o'clock, it's there by middle. It's there the next day. You know, whatever. Our boss saw us what we were wearing. And at first you could tell by uh, you know, his reaction was whatever. And you know what? Once it got warm out, I only we only use the jackets for driver's race. Yeah. It's kind of a hipper look.

Noel

Does he keep you hip?

Tony

Well, I you know, I I think it goes both ways. Yeah, to be honest. I mean, I'm no I'm no, you know, flunky here.

Noel

So what do you know how to play on the trumpet? He's got Britney Spears and Kenny Jake.

Tony

Well, I'm more traditional, you know. I mean, I he listens to that radio stuff all the time. Is that radio garbage? No, not not necessarily. I mean we play a lot of stuff that's pretty hip together, you know, like journey and stuff like that.

Zac

Yeah, I mean, doing what you do, you probably know a million. You know, American classics at this point. Yeah. Frank Sinatra.

Tony

Sinatra stuff or uh Louis Armstrong or you know, just things that like a lot of things, you get anniversary requests.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Tony

And so we'll play we'll play Sinatra the way you look tonight, or something. And it's a duet. It's not unison. He's got a part and I got a part. Yeah. And it's nice.

Noel

Well, this whole experience has been nice. I this is like we couldn't have had a better day. Absolutely. Outside, across from the track, at the start of the season, with these two guys who have been an absolute, I mean, they're just also really fun, nice guys, too. So if you see them at the track, don't be intimidated to walk up to them and say hello. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. What do we go out with?

Zac

I say dealer's choice. Uh yeah, send us out. Uh so that's been another episode of Off Track Talk. You can follow us on Instagram at off track talk. You can hear us every Tuesday, a new episode. Uh, please like, follow, subscribe, download those episodes.

Noel

Yes, that helps us so much. When you download, that helps us reach more listeners. Um, and we're gonna be on YouTube now starting this season.

Zac

So you'll be able to get a visual for all of us. Get to look at all of us too.

Noel

Yes, it'll be great. Um guys.

Tony

Take it away. We're gonna play is our what we traditionally have been doing the last few years for the very last call of the meat called the bugle rag.

Noel

All right, guys, send us out. Thanks, everyone.

Zac

See you tomorrow. That was fun.