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#9: “AMBITION: The Hidden Driver Behind Your Life: Part 1

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What if ambition isn’t just about success… but about pain, validation, and the need to prove something?


In this powerful conversation, Larry Yatch and Vicky Giangregorio break down the real meaning of ambition — and why so many high performers still feel unfulfilled even after achieving everything they thought they wanted.


They explore:
 • The difference between desire, ambition, and purpose
 • Why some people talk about change but never take action
 • How childhood conditioning shapes adult ambition
 • The trap of performing for love & external validation
 • Why success without fulfillment leaves people empty
 • The hidden patterns affecting parenting, business, money & relationships
 • How ambition can either create freedom… or quietly destroy joy


This episode challenges the way we think about achievement, leadership, parenting, and self-worth — and may completely change how you see your own drive.


🎧 PART 1 premieres Monday, May 25th, 2026 at 8AM MT

🎧 PART 2 premieres June 1st, 2026 at 8AM MT



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SPEAKER_03

This is Capital T Truth. Here we expose the beliefs, patterns, and trauma loops that have kept you limited. I'm Larry Hatch, a former Navy SEAL officer and entrepreneur who learned the hard way that the strategies that create success can also quietly destroy the quality of your life. This work exists to expose that truth. If you're ready for freedom through alignment, you're in the right place. For me, the fundamental distinction for ambition is a desire for change. And so ambition, in and of itself, at the very most fundamental level, is desire for change. And you can have ambition uh for anything uh in your life, in your personal life, your professional life, in relationships. Anytime that you have a desire for change, you have ambition. You say you want change in your life. So let's fan that flame, right? So let's get more and more and more. Like, I want more and more and more. They speak more and more and more. And then you would spend a bunch of time too on the development side of it, like giving them the tools to do it.

SPEAKER_05

And then they wouldn't take action. And I had no idea it was because they didn't have the desire, the true desire.

SPEAKER_03

They didn't have ambition.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, they didn't have ambition. See, this is what I'm saying. This is where we're learning together. This is where I love that we learn get to learn together.

SPEAKER_03

Uh leadership at its most fundamental level is uh creating uh positive change in another's life, right? Like that's it, changing their behavior, modifying their behavior. That's all leadership is. Manipulation is the same thing, modifying another's behavior. There's a big difference between the two. And the big difference between leadership and manipulation is that when I lead, I create behavior change in your life that benefits you and may or may not benefit me. When I manipulate you, I benefit myself at your cost. Are they the same tools? Hundred percent the same tool. Right? Welcome everyone. Uh back for another episode of Capital T Truth Podcast with Vicky and I. And uh this topic is a foundational topic, is the best way I can speak to it, is in that uh this topic of ambition is something that is in your professional life, your personal life, uh, in your life for increasing consciousness. Uh, understanding ambition not only gives you the ability to create change in your own life, but to be able to inspire change in other people's lives. So I'm super excited to go through this in depth. Uh, not only not only for all of you, but I know Vicky and I, uh both being uh entrepreneurs and business people, uh, being able to understand ambition and apply it into our business world is just as powerful in our personal world. So this is gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_05

It's a great one. I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03

The best place to start is uh as all of you spend more and more time with us, uh, you know, for me, language is everything, and being able to have clear distinctions uh that really differentiate one thing from another. Uh so differentiating ambition from drive or purpose allows us to start leveraging that information for uh change in our lives, change in other people's lives. And so I think that's one of the best places to start when it comes to ambition. And uh for me, the fundamental distinction for ambition is a desire for change. And so ambition, in and of itself, at the very most fundamental level, is desire for change. And you can have ambition uh for anything uh in your life, in your per personal life, your professional life, in relationships. Anytime that you have a desire for change, you have ambition.

SPEAKER_05

And the the thing about the language part, which is great, which I love, you'll hear him correct me all morning long. So which is which is fantastic because we're not trying to show up here perfect and uh we're just trying to show up here to just be better every single day, which is amazing. So the desire was a big one for me personally, I know, with us working together for a long time, because I would come to you and I would say, Larry, I want this in my life and I want that in my life, and I want that in my life, and you're like, Okay, well, why? And a lot of times I didn't even know why. And you helped pull that out for me. And a lot of it happened to be that I just wasn't happy in the position I was today, whether that was relationship or whether that was career. I I I didn't even know that I wasn't making a change in my life because I really actually didn't have a desire because I wasn't um necessarily dissatisfied with the moment I was in. I just thought I needed to change. Um yeah, I'm really ambitious. I wanna, I wanna I wanna reach this goal or I want this in my relationship. And the way that you broke it down fundamentally, it it was very helpful for me.

SPEAKER_03

That desire for change, I think uh we've been having a series of conversations around this topic for the last four, five, six months, specifically within your business, right? So you you run a relatively, uh, a large sales business, right? A business based on on selling and having uh individuals go out and and the selling they do isn't necessarily the easiest, right? It's it's all relationship building, which takes effort and time and all that stuff. And one of the things that brought this topic uh up between us was uh your frustration that you had a lot of people uh speaking with ambition but not acting in it. What did that look like? Yeah. Because I think that for people to understand, okay, ambition is a desire for change, that that's a good fundamental understanding. But uh there's a difference between speaking ambition and having ambition.

SPEAKER_05

Right, for sure. For me personally, um, in in that career aspect, it was that um, oh, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do this. And after you've worked with so many people for so many years and you don't see that their behaviors are matching their language, um, then you start realizing, okay. And and I just always thought all I had to do was be the motivator. Like if I'm there and inspiring them and motivating them and loving on them and hugging them and sending them a fruit basket, that was gonna be enough.

SPEAKER_03

And like teaching, developing was the other big thing for you I know as well, right? Like, oh yes, there was the motivation side. Yes. You say you want change in your life, so let's fan that flame, right? So let's get more and more and more. Like, I want more and more and more. And they speak more and more and more. And then you would spend a bunch of time too on the development side of it, like giving them the tools to it, and then they wouldn't do it take action.

SPEAKER_05

And I had no idea it was because they didn't have the desire, the true desire.

SPEAKER_03

They didn't have ambition.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, they didn't have ambition. See, this is what I'm saying. This is where we're learning together. This is where I love that we learn get to learn together still, and I've been practicing this for so long.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But that's what like so. Why did I make that distinction, right? Uh having desire and ambition to me are two two different things, right? Desire for change is where I can speak, speak it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Uh true ambition, you you actually create change because that's where you have a whole bunch of people that sit in the dissatisfaction of today. I don't like today, I don't like where I am today, I want to be somewhere else, but then they don't do anything. Do those people truly have ambition? No. They have desire, they have uh this feeling of I want something, but actually no movement for change.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Right. And that's where when we get to the fundamentals of ambition, there's parts to it, like core parts that if you don't have these parts and people don't have ambition. But even before that, one of the big pieces for me is uh coming from especially my background in the SEALs, yeah, right? If you think of uh a Navy SEAL, would you consider them low or high ambition people? Like high ambition. The highest. And within that high ambition, it's massive desire for change with absolutely no block. Like there's nothing you can put in front of a SEAL if the mission success is on the other side, they're not gonna just bash their way through.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And so I came from an environment where ambit the just desire without change without movement and uh desire and movement were always together. Like if someone said they were gonna do something, they did it. Right? If they were tasked with a mission and accepted that mission, they accomplished that mission. Uh, I thought that was just everyone was high ambition. I also then connected the fact that uh high ambition was good and low ambition was bad, right? And that in certain places, like I don't want a low ambition seal, right? But when I got into the business world or the the world where I had to build entire teams, right, uh it was important to understand that ambition wasn't good or bad. Like high ambition people and low ambition people wasn't like high ambition were good and low ambition were bad. Actually, every organization, every team, every family needs high ambition and low ambition people. If you don't have that mix, then you're gonna have some problems.

SPEAKER_05

It was interesting when you said that because I was thinking in my mind, wouldn't it be amazing if everybody performed at that level, especially as an entrepreneur or the business of your family, like how you run a family? Like if everybody performed like that, what a different world we would live in. I was dreaming while you were talking.

SPEAKER_03

That's what's interesting, right? Because I mean, I would, you know, your experience or background, like Navy SEAL in your domain, like you're at the highest levels of it. Right. Right. So when you take someone like you or me, who are very high ambition people, right? We generally just want to be around other high ambition people. We look at low ambition people as uh, in worst judgments, could be lazy or just whiners, right? Like you don't actually do anything. Uh and if you build an organization, a team, where it's just high ambition people, you have problems because again, what is ambition? It's desire for change that produces action, right? It's that combination of both. Uh if you have super high ambition in every person around you, everyone wants change all the time. And so you can't ever get anywhere. Right. Like you can't ever coordinate together because everyone wants change at all the times. And the way I always put it, the example I always give, I have a company, okay. In my company, do I want my CFO, my accountant, to be super high ambition, like changing, well, you know, maybe we change what we do with the IRS roles and regulations. Like no, there's some people in the organization that we want to be low ambition, right? Where they don't want change. They want to come in every day, do the exact same thing. They don't want anything to change in their life. If there's change, they get worried. Uh, they become the foundation. The way I always the analogy I always give is the low ambition people on a team are the foundation, they're like the launch pad. And then the high ambition people are the rocket ship. But if you have a rocket ship with no launch pad, you don't go anywhere. And if you have a whole bunch of rock uh uh rocket ships or rocket ship with no pad, you don't go anywhere. If you have a pad and no rocket ships, no one ever goes anywhere either. So you need that combination of low ambition, the people you can rely on to do the same thing day in, day out. They actually have ambition for no change. And then you've got the high ambition people that are always the and often though in the entrepreneur world, they refer to them as visionaries, right? Where it's like, okay, this is the next thing we're gonna take.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then your low ambition people get frustrated, like worried. Oh no, how are we gonna do that? And so it was important for me, especially coming from a very high ambition environment and person, that it ambition isn't good or bad, right? It was a matter of understanding not only having ambition be a tool that I use, where when I need someone to change, even if it's a low ambition person, and I need them to change as a leader in the organization, it's my job to create a feeling of ambition in them so they will change. And so I look at it less as a character trait, like that's an ambitious person, that's a non-ambitious person, and understanding that ambition is merely a tool that I can use in my own life to create change where I want it to be, or where I desire to have that change, and in others' lives to help them create the change that they want.

SPEAKER_05

It's so interesting because we we've talked for so long, so many months, and um you know, I always I always grab some value every time we have a discussion, which is why I keep coming around all the way. But um it it's so interesting because I'm like, oh, I always have to be surrounded by ambitious people all the time, because that's gonna make me feel more empowered and drive me to want to be better. But not ever looking at those that are less ambitious than self, that's their they're they're part of the plan, they're part of the framework, they're part of the team. And it's not a characteristic trait necessarily. It's um what would you say? You said it's not really a trait, you look at it more of a tool. And so when you're like, oh, they're lazy, they're this, they're that, we're very quick on an everyday basis in life, and even in our own home life, the way that we say things about our children, yeah, right? Um, but and you know that I'm I'm I'm going through one of these moments right now in life. Yeah, that's true. We always are. I think it's constant.

SPEAKER_03

It'd be interesting to bring those up because we have two very different experiences, right? Your experiences with an older child, yes, right, which many, I think many parents out there have exper well, there are a lot of parents that have experienced having a uh tw mid to late twenties child that ha is showing no ambition.

SPEAKER_05

Especially today.

SPEAKER_03

Especially today, right? No ambition at all. Yes. And uh stuck.

SPEAKER_05

And very stuck. So rather than us as a parent, maybe even which it would be a totally different episode about the way that we feel responsible for this, um, they all kind of go together, which we will need to do one, but uh that it is just um how is it that we can create a feeling inside of them? Or or not maybe we, so you're go ahead, correct me. Not we got it, you got it. Not we create a feeling inside. I get to be proud of the beginning. Where where is there an opportunity uh for me to uh create an opportunity to positively influence them to a different direction, maybe as a leader in their life?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, here's a question for you. Yes. What what does it look like? Like and you can almost say uh stereotypically, what does it look like when uh a parent has super high ambition for their child and the child has no ambition for change? What c what does that look like?

SPEAKER_05

You're talking about my life until I met you. Oh wow, what does that look like for who? Me or for them or just the environment?

SPEAKER_03

Any which wrangle.

SPEAKER_05

Um sorry.

SPEAKER_03

Because I think because we I think you if we're thinking, you know, the audience listening out there, right? The parents, like we have parents that are, I have more ambition for my child's change, and my child has ambition for their own change.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

Right. We have parents that say, I I personally don't have a ton of ambition for my child, but I would like to give them the opportunity to have their own ambition, right? Which I think is kind of the healthiest place.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

And then uh I could imagine, like, I know for my parents, I had massive ambition as a kid, and they had zero for me, as in like they didn't push me in any way, shape, or form at all. So you got this spectrum of high on the parent, low on the kid, uh let's call it not high on the parent, but giving the tool to the child to have it. And then on the other side where the child has a ton of ambition, the parent is not, doesn't have ambition for them.

SPEAKER_05

So for me, um, I was the very ambitious parent and wanted everything for their child, so they too should be ambitious as well. Um, I mean, it's almost like, do you know who your mom is? Like, yes, you know how your dad is, like you should be ambitious just like us. And I think it comes I I do I do feel that most of us feel it comes from a good place. We want our kids to have a better life, but that's the wrong, it's actually the wrong way to go about it, is what I've learned. Um so then we get a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03

And are they asking for the better life?

SPEAKER_05

And they're yes, that is a great point. Are they even asking for that? Um But I know better. Yes. Yes. So it as a as a parent wanting what's uh wanting what's best for your children, um, a lot of that also for me personally came from um a place that you see something in your child. You see this um they could do anything in the world. They're so smart, they're this, they're they're so loving, they're so kind. Like, why why wouldn't they want more for themselves? But this is actually just it's equal for me, it's also equally matched in my business, the people that I work with. You see also these um these traits inside of them, and you want more for people than sometimes they want for themselves, which circles right back to the topic of today, ambition. And um to be able to understand this, um, which I know we're gonna go into in a moment here, but to be able to understand it, but not just understand the concept, be able to also be uh uh an assist for other people. Um, and honestly, for me to release more of the self-imposed burden I put on myself, um, that I just thought I was supposed to always do it this way because this is the way my mom did it and this is the way her mom did it. And um, no, it doesn't actually have to be this way. And as we're learning together uh through this journey, that there's a lot more freedom when you do it opposite of the way that I just said that I've been experiencing it for 30 years. My daughter will be 30 next year next week. And for 30 years, I was the mom that had way more ambition for her than she had for herself. And now, because we've changed I've changed because of you, which I know we'll get into. Um, now she thinks I speak Chinese to her. When I'm just like, if that's what you want, honey, it's fine. You don't even have to do that. You could just do nothing, and I'll still love you. She's like, What is why why are you why why are you speaking like this to me? It's like she can't even understand the language I'm using anymore because for 30 years that was not the language I used with her.

SPEAKER_03

So I was uh debating on where we go next. Because this one uh like this will hit hard both you and I'm sure people listening if we go down this this road. But I think it's I think it's since we've been going into the the parent-child thing, I think this is uh it's timely to hit hit this now. Uh so just get ready, like some of you might feel like you're getting kicked in the stomach here. But it feels really good. It's good to see it.

SPEAKER_05

It's a loving kick.

SPEAKER_03

Um so and we we know this is a huge a huge topic for you, or at least I know it's a huge topic for you, is uh the performing for love. Yes. So how does that tie into this uh ambition, at least from let's call it the unhealthy drive of ambition, right? Ambition again is just uh a way to describe someone who has desire for change and is taking action towards that change, right? So that desire for change, ambition is super neutral, but it can come from all different places, right? It can come from healthy places, it can come from unhealthy places, it can be good in a in a situation, it can be bad, it can be good on a team, it can be a bad on a team. So that concept that ambition in and of itself is has no good or bad, but the concept that it can come, like you can have massive ambition that comes from what I would consider a very unhealthy place, right? And performing for love is is one of the most common ones. Uh, how does that tie together for you?

SPEAKER_05

For me personally, um, the performing for love. So as a child growing up, it was always how to have the perfect friends, how to make sure the grades were right, how to make sure that um uh I I I I spoke properly, I behaved properly, and when I did that, that's when my mother gave me the most praise, the most affection, the most adoration, the most attention.

SPEAKER_03

Validation is the way I would say. External validation. Yeah, and that's an interesting piece of as a child, we can uh wrongly connect validation with love. Right. So when your mom was uh validating that she liked your actions, right? Whatever action you took, right, did she love you more than the day, the let's call it the hour before when she wasn't validating your actions?

SPEAKER_05

So if you were to ask the 11 year old Vicky, she would say yes.

SPEAKER_03

100%.

SPEAKER_05

So much did you see what I did? And when I do this, she loves me so much more.

SPEAKER_03

So much more mad at me or when she's disappointed, oh, she doesn't love doesn't love me at all.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, and it's so interesting because then I took those behaviors and that feeling. of elevated love when I had my children. And I not only did it just like her, I did it better.

SPEAKER_03

Doubled it. Yeah. Probably 10 times it, right?

SPEAKER_05

And the reason I did it is I was showing my children more love than she ever showed me in my mind.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And so now I have much more validation, conditional.

SPEAKER_05

Much more conditional. So now I have my kids that are constantly performing from my love. And until I saw it through the new lens and call it the capital T truth lens. But what until I saw it through then, I had no idea. All I thought is, well, this is the way I felt the most loved from my mother when I was and I I I grew up in a single household.

SPEAKER_03

And to add on to that, right, not only did you feel love, but did you improve your state in life?

SPEAKER_05

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_03

Right. So again what am I what I'm br the point I'm making with this is uh not only did Vicky perceive that her mom loved her more when she did these actions, the world rewarded her right with recognition, with money, with promotions, with things success, friends, relationships. You're getting both these uh validation which we're really saying is I'm getting love from people if I do good things and I'm I'm producing accomplishments that guess what people value oh I get more validation. So you're getting you know triple threat of if I perform well then I get all these treats. People love me more I accomplish stuff people value my accomplishments.

SPEAKER_05

And I brought that into my career.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

I brought that into my friendships. I brought that into my marriage. I brought it everywhere because it was it it it it was my um my at the time my truth yeah my truth. So now seeing it through a different lens having to unwind that and having a different um experience with my children and letting them know I just love you because you are my child. Because I I and we argued about this a little bit when I was like I don't love my children conditionally I love them unconditionally because as a parent you that's the one person you love unconditionally is your children.

SPEAKER_03

Of course I do right how do you but that's why I said we argued like how do you expand it I do love them unconditionally. Yes. But express it conditionally.

SPEAKER_05

Yes I ex I expressed it so long as you perform and I just got reminded last week even though I've been doing this work and this work is a game this work is a journey this work is it's a privilege honestly but I got right I got reminded the other day that I'm still I'm still on this journey when my son came down and said well it's nice that in five minutes you asked all the things if I've been doing them right or not.

SPEAKER_03

And I was like no I thought I was getting this right but um it is it's it's ever ever ever uh educating myself every single day waking up being present to me present and aware right like present and aware like now that and even just for the people listening to be able to to have a distinction between validation and love which they didn't most of you wouldn't have not made been able to describe right the difference between a a parent validating a child's behavior versus the love that they feel for them. And knowing that especially as a child it's very hard for us to tell the difference. So we we will then connect validation to love and now all of a sudden we need external validation from our parents. We need to perform for their love. And you'll see that happen in this will be a theme that shows up over and over again especially with parents and children is that concept of of uh colluding with it or rebelling against it. What I mean by that is anytime a parent has a uh big behavior like a dominant behavior the child on a subconscious level has to decide to collude with it mean say I'm gonna take that on and make it bigger what you did with your mom or rebel against it completely. Right? Like they don't get to live in the middle anytime you have that dominant behavior. And so in this in this situation where one way it shows up is where it showed up for us where oh we saw that uh love is conditional if I perform to a high level I'll be loved I'll create accomplishments people value my accomplishments I get that triple thread of of uh treats if you will we always refer to them as trauma treats like those treats that people uh get and then make it bigger so I per like you I performed 10 times bigger than my dad did I I created 10 times the accomplishments but did not feel any of the fulfillment that comes with it uh whereas on the other side you can rebel against it so some parents are sitting out there are like I wish my kids were performing for my love right like that'd be nice. You could get the exact opposite thing. So the same problem right driving ambition in a child, desire for change and movement towards it from performing for love, right? Like that can show up one on one side of that external validation we're talking about the other side is that they completely and utterly rebel against it and in that sense will do nothing. Like they will do the opposite of what you want.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And so you can see like some parents that are like I wish they did that they might be on the other side where the where the child on a subconscious not conscious level on a subconscious level looked at and said screw you if you're going to withhold your love if I perform I'm not going to perform at all.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And then you have the entire opposite side of that spectrum of uh active uh let's call it active negative behavior right like active uh I'm going to do bad to prove that uh or justify the fact that your love is conditional.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah see gut punch like we said a gut punch but it's so interesting because like even as you were describing that now I was thinking to myself it's it's so hard to see when you're in it. I never saw this.

SPEAKER_03

Because both the what is the parent doing it out of love or they're doing it out of uh desire to harm their child it's always out of love. Yeah and if it's love it's good well if it's not capital T if it's not uh truth that comes from outside of us not from our from inside of us and our traumas and our strategies that you learn from your mom, I learned from my dad and from that perspective like oh no it's the love shows up in a conditional format that conditional format then creates this this connection between what we started with this discussion altogether was when ambition for change comes from the need for external validation will the individual produce accomplishments yes like you produce accomplishments I produce accomplishments but what do we give up we give up fulfillment we give up happiness we give up the feeling of being successful regardless of what we produce. So if you act in untruth or as we would say lowercase t truth within this and I connect ambition to external validation performing for love I will produce accomplishments but you will sacrifice joy fulfillment happiness success and so unless you get it right meaning the the drive comes from inside as opposed to outside right that's the big distinction of if I am driven by the external the need for external validation I will sacrifice fulfillment even if I produce accomplishments. And therefore ambition that comes from performing for love will not produce the results that we want or it won't produce the experiences of life that we want it may produce the results that we want.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah even my even through my journey and all the all the treats that I've gotten along the way whether it's a promotion whether it's just financial gain it's uh better relationships like I think about that and um it was all performance based my entire life and that's why I always wanted more or the next thing and you know I had a moment to celebrate okay high five high five good job Vicky and then okay what's next what's next what's next what's next and it was all that performance based instead of that intrinsic drive in myself and the crazy thing about the intrinsic drive which we've been working on is that I want less but this is the craziest part right so what she's saying is as the internal drive what I would then call from instead of external drive I would say internally derived purpose right living in true true your true purpose uh when you move to that you want less and when we say want less want less of the treats yeah right like want less of the responsibility sales the money the uh the accomplishments that others would value and prize you want less of that but are you producing less? No.

SPEAKER_03

No that's the craziest part.

SPEAKER_05

And I'm like smiling the whole way all the time because I didn't I don't it's almost like um this weight like a this feeling that it's it's so much pressure if you think about it and and this happens to so many of us there's so much pressure pressure to perform and then when you get it you're just like huh you're relieved you got it so that it released the pressure for just a moment. And then now because it's all external validation you put another benchmark and it's a key point right to why do you put another benchmark? Oh because I'm I I still have to perform for love and I don't have this because you didn't actually get love. I didn't get it.

SPEAKER_03

Because it was a false connection. Yes right it was the untruth of saying well if I produce this accomplishment my mom my husband my kids will love me. Yeah right as soon as you produce the accomplishment their love didn't go up or down because love and accomplishments don't go together.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And so you never got what you wanted. So well maybe it has to be bigger. Bigger and so then we're on to the next okay let's move the goalposts go to the next one.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

And the more that we move the goalposts the bigger it gets the bigger the accomplishments the less we feel full the more we feel empty because well I just made $10 million. Like I beat everyone in the company and no one loves me anymore.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It's all based on the the core untruth that uh love and validation are the same. They're different. Yes. And so we live in a world if we live in a world where our ambition is driven by the need to perform for love or comes from an external need to pr even just to because for me it wasn't to perform for the love of another it was to perform for the love of self like to love myself like to prove myself worthy. Your self worth which is the same exact thing. Like I was performing to say well if I if I can be a Navy SEAL then now I'm not a big pansy. Like I'm not all the weak little kid that all the people said I was when I was small. I was trying to prove it to myself so I was trying to validate myself through my own personal accomplishments. It doesn't matter if it's from that or if it's to to prove for someone else it's that conditional love of self or conditional love of another tied to our ambition is always never going to be fulfilling. Like it's never going to fill us up.

SPEAKER_05

And these are the things whether it is in relationship or even with finances or career um these are the things that we have to be aware of because we always say oh we get in our own way we hear this a lot you see it on social media get out of your own way get out of your own what is that they never say happy they don't ever give it to one step left maybe you'd be out of the way here's here's a great statement good luck you know that's all you get.

SPEAKER_03

So whereas like with these I love those people that are like they're the stars and everyone listens to them is like say this the say this statement and then all I have to do is ask well why? Like how does that work? What do we do about that?

SPEAKER_05

Now what's next?

SPEAKER_03

Exactly what do you mean? Yeah or my favorite thing is to ask like you know get out of your own way and you can be successful what do you mean by successful and they look at me like a blank blank slate. Right how the hell can you produce success if you don't even know what it is? How can you produce ambition if you don't know what it is?

SPEAKER_05

Right. And I think that that is one of the incredible tools like today is that okay so we do hear that you have to get out of your own way or you're you're the reason that you haven't hit success yet or you're the reason that you're miserable you're the reason of this but I think it all comes down to the ambition.

SPEAKER_03

It all comes down to the ambition coming coming like so we gave one really strong example of where ambition can be driven by the wrong thing right so the ambition that came from performing for the love of your mother say, did that produce change in your life?

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah it produced positive change.

SPEAKER_05

And great change.

SPEAKER_03

So that's what's interesting ambition in and of itself is just the desire for change and the actions that lead to that change. So within that sense even though it came from the wrong place it still produced the results right because ambition with action produces change right so we got that uh but what we're finding here is that one of the key traps that we all get into and I'm I'm sure we'll have a whole episode on success right which is a whole nother uh deepening of this entire concept right that the ambition coming from the wrong place produces results with no fulfillment no joy no happiness yeah and so one understanding that ambition is desire for change we put no conditions on if it's good or bad if it's good or bad for me if it's good or bad for another person but understanding that ambition driven by the wrong thing right can produce results without uh without the fulfillment the other piece is if you're not conscious of your ambition right you can produce change in your life that you don't want which is a whole not that's that's not even it coming from the wrong place. Like we talked about it coming from the wrong place, producing the change we wanted more success in life but sacrificing fulfillment because we allowed it to come from outside ambition is is uh happening almost always in our life when we're unaware of it all of a sudden we could have ambition from a subconscious need to some future that we don't want consciously and that's where a lot of us find ourselves in a whole lot of action a whole lot of work a whole lot of effort but never producing the life that we want those are the people that are like what's my purpose why am I here very unfulfilled because it's all out of need right rather than out of want. Or the that one andor and you've seen these people that say they want say financial stability but spend money all the time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Right? So their ambition to have stuff their need to have debt so they can be reliant on others all on a subconscious level right like this isn't conscious because no one said takes on a whole bunch of debt because they want to be reliant on someone consciously it's all subconscious peas. But their subconscious need to be reliant on others their subconscious need to have things is producing ambition to be in debt and not be financially stable or free. And so you can have ambition towards a direction you don't want to go when you're not aware of it.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. It kind of um now now we're talking a little bit about the financial so we've kind of hit a little career a little a little family slash relationship a little bit of financial and there's one trend um it all for me it all comes down to external validation and performing for love and carrying it through all of those things. So it's not that in this area of life uh I'm doing things differently I'm doing things the behaviors I'm doing the same exact behavior expecting the result that I've always gotten since I was a small child in all areas of life. So if we could just figure out that you I what I'm hearing is we have a a life with a little more joy, fulfillment, happiness, uh probably a little bit more intentional and freedom.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah and and that's where saying how do we allow or how do we create the environment the opportunity where we can leverage ambition in our own lives because it's just a tool right? It's this neutral tool that can produce problems everywhere if we're not careful as we've we just brought up two huge places where it creates problems, right? How can I leverage ambition as a tool to create the change that I consciously want or change as again we'll we'll be talking about on this podcast often the changes of being in full alignment in the highest consciousness consciousness and subconscious right that alignment how do I leverage ambition for align change uh in my own life and then another piece I know you've experienced this I've experienced this all my clients have experienced it as soon as you get free from a lot of these things all you want is everyone around you that you care about and even you don't even like at least for me hence the podcast I don't even care about all these people that are watching it because I don't know them and yet I want them to be free too and so then you step into the whole nother use of ambition of how do I create ambition for change in someone else for aligned change in someone else. Like those become uh tools not only for ourselves but tools for others. And in order to do that and this is where I love my engineer my autistic engineer brain of saying oh there's a formula for it. Right and if you understand the formula for ambition you can leverage it for yourself or for others. And especially when we get to because there's a whole bunch of skeptics out there right now I don't know skeptic's the right word but there's a whole bunch of people that are saying oh if you understand so you're saying what I'm hearing you say Larry is that you can create ambition on demand in people and if you can create if I can create ambition on demand for you that means that I can create movement towards some direction for you right yes if I can do that well isn't that manipulation so am I not manipulating you so ambition is manipulation where I'm in I'm gonna manipulate you to do what I want you to do. And to me the the throughout this podcast over and over again we're gonna talk about these tools to be able to create behavior change in yourself and others. And so that same question of well isn't that just manipulation is going to come up and for me there's a very clear distinction between leadership and ambition uh manipulation. So leadership at its most fundamental level is uh creating uh positive change in another's life right like that's it changing their behavior modifying their behavior that's all leadership is manipulation is the same thing modifying another's behavior there's a big difference between the two and the big difference between leadership and manipulation is that when I lead I create behavior change in your life that benefits you and may or may not benefit me. When I manipulate you I benefit myself at your cost. At your expense are they the same tools 100% the same tools. Same tools two different intentions two different intentions so and really two different outcomes if I have the intent to better your life and better mine and I I see that I actually created detriment to your life and bettered mine well I just used my power for bad not good. And so for me can these tools like when we get into how do I specifically create feelings of ambition for change in another how do I make sure that I don't do that in manipulation it's it's constantly keeping awareness of is this making your life better and my life better not my life better at your expense. So I always think that's important to put out there because I don't want a whole bunch of people shut off like oh they're just teaching you how to manipulate stuff. No that's not well yes and yes and no hopefully not okay right and if you do you will suffer in the end so it's up to you.

SPEAKER_05

Right and it was always a choice.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah it's your choice. It's always a choice thanks for listening Capital T Troop subscribe leave a review and share this episode. As you know the work doesn't stop when the episode ends For more, visit the website at capitaltruth.org to submit a question to be answered live on a future podcast. We also invite listeners onto the podcast to work directly with me, where we dive into your personal strategies of survival and we solve them live. Until next time, live in Capital T Truth.