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Michelle Carter and Conrad Roy’s case is one of the most disturbing we’ve covered.

It is about a teenage girl convincing her boyfriend to kill himself. But not just that. According to what Michelle later told a friend, when Conrad got scared and tried to back out, she told him to get back in.

This episode looks at the texts, the pressure, the promise, and the messages Michelle sent to friends before Conrad was even dead. The central question: was this just encouragement, or was it intervention against the part of him that was still trying to live?

This episode discusses suicide and coercive text messages. Listener discretion is advised.

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