The Spiritual Trader

You Keep Giving Back Your Profits Because They Don't Belong To You

• The Spiritual Trader

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 19:12

Why Your Profits Don't Belong To You Yet

Tyler made in one morning what most people make in a year. He called his best friend to share it. His friend responded exactly the way he should have. And Tyler felt worse than before he called. Two weeks later, the money was gone. 📉

This video is not about strategy. It is not about discipline. Tyler had fixed both of those. The problem was something nobody had pointed a camera at before.

What this video covers:
 â€” Why fixing your strategy and discipline still might not be enough
 â€” The thermostat principle and how your identity pulls you back to your set point
 â€” Why feeling the need to tell someone about a win is actually important information
 â€” How the trading standards being sold to you are quietly limiting your potential
 â€” What it actually looks like when the set point finally shifts

The results you are capable of producing and the results you are capable of keeping are not the same question. Most traders only ever work on the first one. 🧠

#tradingpsychology #tradermindset #profitabletrading #daytrading #spiritualtrader

Support the show

SPEAKER_00

Tyler closed the trade at 1147 on a Tuesday morning. He stared at the number on the screen for a few seconds. Then he picked up his phone. He called his closest friend. Not a trader. Someone who had known him for 15 years. Someone who had seen him through every version of himself. Tyler told him what happened. The setup, the entry, the exit, the number. His friend listened, said something like, That's amazing, man. Seriously. And then asked if Tyler wanted to get food later. Tyler said sure. He put the phone down. And then something strange happened. Tyler felt worse. He had not understood why. Nothing bad had happened. He was not angry. Just off. Something was sitting wrong in his chest and he could not identify what it was. He had just made in a single morning what most people make in a year. He had called his best friend to share it. His best friend had responded exactly the way a best friend should. And Tyler felt worse than before he called. He did not understand why. He pushed the feeling aside and moved on with his day. Two weeks later the money was gone. Not all at once. Gradually. A bad trade here. An oversized position there. A decision that felt justified in the moment and made no sense the next morning. By the end of the month the account was back where it started. The extraordinary morning in November felt like something that had happened to someone else. Tyler had made money, but he had failed to keep it, and more importantly, to sustain it. He did not yet know why. But he would learn. This was not happening by chance. Tyler did what most traders do after something like this. He looked for the most logical explanation. He thought the strategy might be the problem. He was not going to change it. He was going to refine it. He had been overtrading, he knew that. Too many setups, too much screen time, not enough selectivity. He had a strategy he had used early on that made sense to him. He had found the right approach for himself. He never felt the pull to abandon it and start over with something new. That was actually an advantage he did not fully appreciate at the time, staying with one approach long enough to understand it rather than cycling through systems every few months. And as a trader who was still relatively new, this was actually good news. He went back to its core, stripped away the noise, added a few confirmation layers to make sure he was only taking the highest quality entries. He tested it, it held up. He felt better about it. He thought he was ready. Then he worked on his discipline, because he could not seem to make what he imagined actually happen. He was stumbling at the execution stage, somehow he kept abandoning his plan and sabotaging himself. What he did not know was that this was normal, because he was still new. But he would fix this too. What he did not know was that he was about to come face to face with an enemy he had not even been aware of, and he was not ready for it. This took longer. He started journaling every trade, not just the result, but the reasoning, the emotional state before entry, the decision-making process during the trade. He built rules and wrote them down. He reviewed them every morning before the session started. He tracked his adherents week by week. He treated violations seriously, not as failures to punish himself for, but as data points to understand. There were setbacks, weeks where he slipped back into old patterns. But over time the consistency improved. He could feel it. The execution was getting cleaner. He had done the work that most traders avoid. He had managed to fix the things that were genuinely broken. He was genuinely making progress. But unexpected things happened. He expected the results to follow. That is how it is supposed to work. You identify the problem, you fix the problem, the results improve. Tyler had identified two problems and fixed both of them. The strategy was better, the discipline was better. He was doing everything right. The results did not follow. The day would come when he would have the courage to ask why. That was when he would come face to face with the real problem and with who he actually was, and he would be forced to think about things he had never thought about before. But for now, he kept working on discipline and strategy. Things were not developing the way he expected. There were good months and bad months, and the overall trajectory was not where it should have been given how much had changed in how he operated. All of this felt strange to him, he could not explain it. He sat with that confusion for a long time. He kept working, kept journaling, kept refining. But something was not adding up and he did not know what. Tyler was not aware of it either. The results he was trying to produce did not belong to him, they never had, and he could not keep acting like someone he was not. That is what was actually happening. The discipline was not the problem, the strategy was sufficient. He was simply finding ways to push away the things he obtained that did not feel like his. His mind was taking him back to the safe place where he belonged, where he was comfortable, and where he was used to being. Money he had not earned felt like a threat to his mind, and that threat never allowed those things to become permanent without Tyler even realizing it. He started paying attention to how he felt, not about specific trades, but about everything surrounding them, how he felt when he sat down at the screen in the morning, how he felt when a position moved in his favor, how he felt when he had a good week. And he noticed something that did not make immediate sense. This realization was going to open a lot of new doors in Tyler's mind. The good results made him uncomfortable, not obviously, not in a way that interrupted anything, but there was a low level unease that arrived whenever things were going well with Tyler. Tyler would encounter a quiet sense that this would not last whenever he made a profit. He had never thought about this before, but it was not actually normal. Tyler would start to feel that something was going to go wrong, and before long everything would find a way to go off track. Because there was actually no way to hold on to things that did not belong to him. It was impossible to produce consistent results, not without his identity changing at the core. And when I say who he was, I am not talking about who he thought he was. I am talking about who he actually was. If you ask Tyler, he would not think he had a bad relationship with money. But the reality said otherwise, and your emotions will tell you the reality, because no matter how logically you think you are operating, what you believe deep down will determine the final outcome. Pretending those beliefs do not exist will not change the result. Changing them might. That is the only possibility. He sat with this observation for a while. He had done the work. The strategy was solid, the discipline was genuinely better. By any external measure he was a more competent trader than he had been two years earlier. So why did good results still feel like borrowed time? Why did a strong weak leave him waiting for the correction rather than simply noting that the process had worked? Tyler was deeply uncomfortable with this situation, and for the first time he was looking for the problem somewhere different, inside himself, asking why his first instinct after a good month was not satisfaction but a kind of low-level bracing for what was coming next. He could not yet explain where that feeling was coming from. He did not know the source or the reason. He started wondering if it was just anxiety, if it was just the natural result of having been burned before. Maybe it was normal. Maybe everyone felt this way. Then one night he was on Twitter and he came across a short post that stopped him. It talked about the thermostat principle, the idea that every person has an internal set point, a level of financial result that feels normal, that feels like theirs, and that when results go above that set point, the subconscious moves to bring things back down, not intentionally, not consciously, but through decisions that seem rational in the moment and consistently produce the same outcome, pulling the account back toward familiar territory. Tyler read it three times. He thought about that Tuesday morning in November. He thought about calling his friend. He thought about how he had felt worse after the call, not better, and for the first time he understood why. When you tell someone about something that genuinely belongs to you, something you genuinely believe you have earned and deserve, you do not feel the need to tell them urgently. You do not reach for the phone while the trade is still open on the screen. You do not need them to confirm it for you. You share it at some point because you want to, not because something inside you is looking for external validation to make it feel real. Think about the last time you told someone about a win before you'd even fully processed it yourself. That urgency is information. It is telling you something about how real that result feels to you on the inside. For me, if something is normal and ordinary, like making tens of thousands of dollars, I do not feel the need to tell my friends about it. When I say being willing to talk about something that is normal and ordinary, I mean that willingness itself is actually a sign that I obtained something that does not fully belong to me yet, and it is an expression of the fact that I may not be able to keep it. This does not mean not being happy or not sharing happiness. Do not misunderstand it that way. But you need your trading results every day. This is not a wedding, so you can begin to change by choosing not to express something you need to produce every day as if it were something extraordinary. Tyler had called his friend because the money did not feel real, because some part of him could not fully accept that this was his. And when his friend responded with warmth and recognition, it helped for about forty seconds. Then the underlying reality reasserted itself. The money still felt like it did not quite belong to him, and the discomfort returned. He had made in one morning what he had spent a full year earning in his previous job. That gap was too large for his brain to process as normal. It did not fit the identity he had built over years of experience, of what a reasonable outcome looked like, of what he was capable of producing, of what he was the kind of person who had, and so his subconscious, without consulting him, began working to close that gap. Quietly. The trading decisions that followed were not random. They were the thermostat doing its job, bringing the temperature back to where it was set, which meant giving the profits back. If this is landing somewhere real for you, a like and a subscribe is all it takes to keep this content coming. This was the thing Tyler had not seen. Not because he was not smart enough to see it, because no one had pointed the camera in that direction, every piece of trading education he had encountered was focused outward. The strategy, the setup, the risk management, the execution. All of it treated the trader as a neutral variable, as someone who simply needed better information or better process and would then produce better results. Nobody had said that the trader was the variable, that the trader's internal sense of what was normal, what was theirs, what they were the kind of person who had, was determining the ceiling. Tyler had hit his ceiling, and it had nothing to do with his strategy and nothing to do with his discipline, both of which were now genuinely solid. It had to do with the identity he was carrying into the chair every morning. An identity that had been shaped by years of a different kind of life, of a different relationship with money, of a different sense of what was reasonable to expect. And that identity had a set point, and the set point was pulling him back every single time. What we believe will always determine our life standards. What we see ourselves as deserving and not deserving, I am not talking about surface level thoughts. This is the part that does not get talked about. Everyone in trading talks about strategy and psychology, but the psychology conversation almost always stays at the surface level. Manage your emotions. Stick to your rules. Do not revenge trade. All of that is real, and all of it matters. But underneath those conversations there is something deeper that rarely gets named. The question of whether the results you are capable of producing are results you are capable of believing you deserve. Those are not the same question, and they do not have the same answer. Tyler had become capable of producing good results, that part was solved. The part that was not solved was whether he was the kind of person in his own understanding of himself who was supposed to have them on a consistent basis. And until that second question was answered differently, the thermostat was going to keep doing its job. The question was what to do about it. The answer was not comfortable, and it was not fast. It started with acknowledgement. Tyler had to accept that his discomfort around good results was not anxiety, and was not caution, and was not wisdom. It was his internal thermostat telling him that the temperature was too high. That was the diagnosis, and once he had the diagnosis, he could start addressing the actual problem, instead of the ones that were easier to see. He began exposing himself to the discomfort deliberately. When a good week ended and the familiar unease arrived, he stopped trying to push it away. He stayed with it. He let it be there. And while it was there, he told himself something simple. This is mine. I earned this. This is what normal looks like now. Not as a motivational exercise, as a recalibration. Telling the thermostat where it was supposed to be set, talking to yourself, normalizing it. It felt fake at first. It felt like something he was saying to himself without believing it. But he said it anyway. Because the alternative was to keep letting the thermostat run unchecked, to keep producing results that eventually found their way back to the set point, regardless of how well he had traded to get there. He also stopped talking about it, not out of secrecy, but out of recognition. Every time he felt the impulse to tell someone about a good trade or a good week, he noticed it. He asked himself why the impulse was there, and the answer was always the same. Because it did not feel entirely real yet, because part of him was still looking for external confirmation to make it feel legitimate. So instead of making the call, he stayed with the feeling. He let the result be real on its own terms, without needing someone else's reaction to validate it. Over time the impulse faded, not because he became someone who kept secrets, but because he became someone for whom the results were simply normal, and normal things do not require an audience. Here is an example that might feel familiar to you. The general consensus and the message on social media is that achieving high R profits is both unlikely and undesirable. So closing a month up 6R is considered a major success, while closing up 56R might make people look at you as if you have done something wrong. Yet 56R is always better than 6R. Have you ever thought about what this general trading framework actually does to you? Let us say I am trading. It is Thursday, the fourth day of the week. I am up 11R for that week. Incredible, right? If I give back half of that 11R on Thursday and Friday, my week would not be considered a failure. At least not according to Twitter, where 5-6R is considered an excellent weekly result. But from where I am standing, being up 11R and then trading two more days and giving profits back instead of just closing the week before Thursday's session and saving time is frankly foolish. But wait. Maybe the reason is that we find 5-6 R sufficient. Maybe we are unconsciously trying to approach the results that have been sold to us as correct. We might think I am already at 11R. But if trading standards define 20R as a successful week, then I am still 9R away from success, and I would have traded those final two days. The trading frameworks we have been sold as ideal are actually working against us. I would not advise you to pay too much attention to them. Making a lot of profit makes you feel comfortable because closing an entire month up just 3 to 4R is sold a success. Yet this is a ceiling that has been drawn for you and it can relax you and limit your potential. I want you to think about these kinds of things, the ones that are about trading itself. This was slow, there was no single moment where it clicked into place, but gradually, over months and then over years, the set point shifted, the good results started feeling less foreign. The discomfort arrived less often and with less intensity. The thermostat was resetting, quietly, without ceremony, through repetition and exposure, and the steady accumulation of results that he allowed himself to keep. Making tens of thousands of dollars and seeing it in his bank account had become normal, it no longer stirred anything in him. And this was not bad news as many people might think. It was good news. Tyler's story did not end quickly. He made that first trade in year one. He did not reach consistent profitability until year six. That is not a story of slow learning or insufficient effort. His strategy was sound from early on. His discipline improved steadily. What took time was the identity. What took time was the internal thermostat resetting to a place where the results he was capable of producing were also results he was capable of keeping. Here is what I want you to take from this. Not everyone starts the way Tyler started. Some of you have been grinding for years without that early lucky break. Some of you are earlier in the process, some further along. The timeline is not predictable, and I will not pretend otherwise. I will not sell you optimism on this. But I will tell you what I believe to be true, based on my own experience, and everything I have watched in this space. Consistent profitability in under three years is the exception, not the rule. If you are new to this, do not build your expectations around the exception. My own real shift came in year four, not year one, not year two. Year four, when the identity finally caught up to the capability. The strategy was there earlier, the discipline was there earlier. What was not there yet was the internal sense that the results were mine to keep, that I was the kind of person who had these results not occasionally but consistently, not by luck, but by identity. When that finally arrived, something changed in how trading felt. It became quieter, less charged, less urgent. Some days it was almost boring, and boring was exactly the right word for it because boring meant the results had become normal. And normal things are sustainable. Normal things do not require you to call your best friend at 1147 on a Tuesday morning to confirm that they are real. If you are still in the part of this where good results feel foreign, where you notice the impulse to share before the trade is even closed, where the thermostat keeps pulling you back, you are not broken. You are just earlier in a process that takes longer than anyone told you. The set point changes, it changes slowly through exposure and repetition and the quiet work of deciding what normal looks like for you. It is not glamorous, and it does not make good content. But it is the actual work, and it is the only work that moves the ceiling.