The Double Standard

In Episode 6 of "Boys Will Be Boys & Her," the crew dives deep into the wildest headlines in music, sports, and culture. From Ye’s chart dominance to the moral dilemmas of lending money to family, we aren't holding anything back.
What’s Inside:

• City Said What: We’re breaking down Ye (Kanye West) hitting the #1 spot on Spotify with Bully, the latest drama between Pooh Shiesty and Gucci Mane, and whether the NY Knicks are headed for a first-round playoff exit.
• We Gonna Talk About It: Is Chris Brown crossing the line by kissing married women on stage? Plus, we have a real conversation about the "hidden costs" of lending money to friends and family—where do you draw the line?

• Yeo That’s Crazy: From Jaden Ivey’s controversial departure from the Bulls to the double standards in NFL Pro Day evaluations (Mendoza vs. Shedeur Sanders). Also, we discuss the viral story of the Maryland woman who called ICE to avoid a $10K roofing bill—how far is too far to save a buck?

• The Relationship Segment: Would you tell your friend if the person they’re dating "has been around"? And the big question: How many months in should you wait before dropping your heaviest baggage (debt, legal issues, or toxic exes)?

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome back to a new episode of Boys to Be Boys in her. This week's episode is titled The Double Standard. Please be sure to like and subscribe to the podcast. As always, enjoy the show. Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome back to a new episode of Boys to Be Boys. Minus to her. Jordan, what we got going on, bro?

SPEAKER_02 0:21

Welcome back to the OG couch. You know what I'm saying? Things may look a little different, but it's because we fired everybody. I'm gonna be honest with you. It wasn't working, so everybody had to go. April Fool's type shit. Nah, that's not what's going on, y'all. Y'all just stuck with us this week, big boy. What's going on with you? How's your week, bro? Oh, my week was good, man. I can't complain, you know. Uh I went to work, everything was pretty good at work, everything chilling. People was happy to see me come back. You know, feel good. Some love, some energy.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

It feels good to have a reason to get up for every day and not just say anything. Okay, we'll go back to work, you know.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

Just a little too far.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Well, that's what's up, bro. Uh nah, my week was good with you, though. I mean, you ain't asking, I'm gonna just tell the people. I know the people I'm here for the people. I appreciate it, baby. It feels good to be loved, like you just said. I need to feel the same love. But nah, my week was solid, bro. Uh that Yukon shit was crazy. The Yukon Duke game, that shit was crazy. I was up watching that. Week was a little hectic. I'm a UNC fan, so that was pretty that was pretty like uh really great for me to see it ending like that. Yeah, shout out to Tom. Friend of the pod, friend of the pod. Um, but aside from that, we had the Yankees. Oh, Yankees opening day, shout out to them boys today. They are big right now, but aside from that, we was calm, you know. I feel like I get like in a better mood once I know spring is like coming. Like, you know, the weather was like real Gucci this week, so it starts to actually feel like I could be like outside. Like the sun's on my face. Like I'm outside, like the sun is like, it feels good to be. I got a cocoa cherry at work. Like I was like, it felt like summertime. Like summer in New York City, bro. Low key undefeated. Like people chill in the city, but in the summertime when the weather's nice in New York City, it's like there's no place I'd rather be low-key now for sure.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

Especially you talking about spring boy. I'm a spring boy, you know. Like I said, big eeries energy always. So you know, this time for me is just ready to shake, ready to go.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

Birthday boy on the way, birthday loaded. Yeah, it just feels good, but we're gonna get into it. We're gonna start the pie. Hey, Brittany, Delilah, and we miss y'all this week, but we're gonna we're gonna try and do our thing and try and be Kobe and Shaq and this shit to this at this episode, y'all. Sure. I mean, more like LeBron and D. Wade. That'll be gonna call it, but I'm I'm LeBron U D Wade for obvious reasons.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

I mean, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

But speaking of two GOATs and speaking of some goats that we got in the City said, Well, seven, we're gonna start with Jordan's GOAT, you're gonna start with Kanye. I didn't know where surprisingly dropped the bully album, but I'm gonna let you start off. Lead lead the way, but what you thought of the tape?

SPEAKER_02 2:48

I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you. The bully album is a good project to me. The production levels is 10 out of 10. Like I think at this point in Kanye's career, especially with all he's done as a producer, if you're not saying he's the best producer of all time, you gotta say at least top three. Because just the way he's able to elevate sounds and stuff like that, just with whether it be samples or just the way he executing his voice or another person's voice on the track, it's just undefeated. I don't see anybody in the game doing better.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

I mean, he was trying to be a spokesman sometimes. You didn't really get into the album. Like I got no problem getting into it. Well, like I I didn't I don't even think I put it in the chat. I might have seen it first. I know I woke up and I saw it and I was like, oh shit. I didn't want to play it right away. Cause some like some albums when they drop, you want to hear it sometimes in the car. That's to make sure, like, I do have that like replay value. Like if I can play it in the car, I know I collect it in my crib. Sometimes, like, you know, depending on the artist. But so when I got in the work and I started playing it, well, it's so some songs was hitting and some like it this I think Kanye's also in a different sphere where it like some of these some of these albums, I mean some of these songs are stadium songs. Sure. Like some of them songs are like they're legit, they like, oh okay, like I saw the vision. Like you want to play this in SoFi. Like you want to shut down Sofi to this. Like you want to go in these different stadiums. When you go on your stadium tours, that's what these songs are for. And some bro, like, if I had to go out of one out of ten, bro, I'll probably give it a six. Maybe a seven. Like, I don't, I I think I think he's missing some ghosts on the album. Like the main goat being, I think, I I think Pusher was missed on this album. I don't think the bars on this album are where they should be. And we all like it's no secret. We know Pusher writes with Kanye. He did one away, he did a few albums on the I mean a few songs on the Donda album too. Shout out to Saha too. Yeah, I mean, the writers, you know, give the like Kanye. Like, I don't I have no problem with Kanye having a having having writers. Like, I don't. You know what I'm saying? Like he's a musical genius. So at this point it is what it is. But I think that he was his voice also didn't sound like the same on his album. Like I felt like it was like I think it still needs to be mixed and mastered even more. I feel like he like he's in the past, he's going in there like add-on side albums. I'm not sure if he's gonna do that on this one. But I do think that this song, this album to me was one, it doesn't have replay value. I'll put it that way. It does not have replay value to me. But I do think some songs, I think it was uh the fourth track, I forgot the name of that drawing. Give me one second. What's the name of that drawing? Uh the the fourth one? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

That's the one you or do you mean the one with him and Travis? Nah, not the him and the one with him and Travis.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Oh no, it's called uh All the Love by Him and Andre Troutman. Oh, okay that was pretty good. Yeah, that joint the banger, like like there's some songs on there that I was like, oh I like I I see the vision. Like I like I I I can walk with it. But overall, like I don't think the album was I think like the the way the album was marketed was this is the new the new Kanye's back. Like when you speak he had him and uh the boy from Cali, the um hit boy, not Hitboy, uh Big Boy in the neighborhood. The the uh he has a morning show out in LA. He went to Kanye's uh like little listening party, and he started listening to a clip and he was like his head was bumping and everybody was like, oh shit, like it's Kanye back.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

But then I heard bullying and I was like, but that's what I think. I think it's more so they're saying Kanye's back is in like the sound, like I said, with the production value. Because the production on this is amazing through all the tracks, whether or not you feel the lyrics are as strong as they need to be. I feel like at this point in Kanye's career, he's trying to focus on bouncing back with the people, especially because you know, like as we all know, he's been very controversial, controversial off of like the music aspect, or even on the music aspect where he's been talking about some stuff that people really haven't been wanting to hear. So I think with this time he just stuck to the basics, giving you that, like you know, now he like he is devout in his faith as being a Christian, but he's also he said that I mean all of these songs are like Christian-based songs. No, like it has like the church, like it has the church feel, like and I feel like that's what he wanted to give you. He wanted to give you something that's basic that everybody's gonna grasp. He's not like, oh, I'm coming in and I'm trying to step on people lyrically or I'm trying to like attack other people and what's going on. It's more so just get people to understand and feel the music, good vibes. Everybody's gonna be able to move to this, everybody's gonna be able to understand where he's coming from. Everybody sonically, I feel like sonically that's what he wanted. He wanted to grab everybody sonically to be able to understand and feel the music. And I feel like that's what they're saying.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

You think he did that on the stage?

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Yeah, yeah. I feel like I feel like he's definitely done that. Because I feel like, like I said, I feel like he took a step back on trying to be lyrical just to make people understand and feel the music.

SPEAKER_01 7:39

I mean, Kanye was never seen as lyrical to me, bro. Like he was never that. Nah, he's tripping backpack date. Backpack date. I mean, he's the he hasn't been backpacked Kanye in a decade and a half, but so but like when you're talking about like with the last project he had with, he had the writers, he had Pusher and all these other guys. I I think that element of this album was missing. I uh to me, like, I felt like this was like a not like a demo album, but like this is like it felt it felt short. Like I like I said, there's no replay value. Some of the production on some of the albums, some of the songs are phenomenal. The way he's able to flip certain songs, like, oh shit, like maybe he is back to an extent. Like he like he's in there. Like you like you heard some of these songs, like, okay, like I it you do reminisce, like say, okay, like old Kanye is in here some like somewhere. But then you hear some songs, it's like, yo, but like I felt like Kanye is such a collaborative artist, like he collabs well with so many different artists. I felt like with just him, like I felt like he was missing his like like he like we're all of us are not on the pod right now. Like we're like we're still missing our big uh rest of our team, right? I feel like Kanye was still missing some of his teammates in the in on this album. Like I felt he still could have used some something else, like something was missing. I'm not trying to discredit the people who did put the album to the album together, like it's not easy to make an album, but I do feel like something was like this something was missing, bro.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

Oh yeah, I I understand what you mean. It definitely was like a different feel. Like to me, I I guess, like to me, I'm also in a space right now where energy to me is everything. So just the fact that it could be good vibes and good energy, that right there made the album really good for me. Like, I'm not saying that this is a perfect project, but I like I rate it like somewhere around an eight. A eight out of ten. Yeah, but but that that's what I'm saying. To me, the lyrics definitely did take a step back, but just the production and the energy that the album is giving me, I like the feel of that. It's a it's a feel-good album to me. It's a feel-good album.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Well, yeah, eight is like eight is like not twisted dark fantasy, like no, you're tripping. That's a 10 out of 10 album. That's a 10 out of 10. So you're telling me this album is two on the scale of one to ten is two is two grades below?

SPEAKER_02 9:44

That's yeah, but two grades below is that's a lot. Like, that's a lot to me. Well, uh like it's hard for you to get above an eight for me.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Like, well, all right. I'm gonna just break this down in something we both understand. Okay. If you bag a 10, okay, and not the number scale is subjective. So bear with me, y'all. It is subjective. But if you bag a 10, I bag an eight. What's the difference between a 10 and 8? It's a big difference.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

It's because my because my scale, my scale of what a 10 is, it's a big difference. I'm gonna be honest with you. I still in my life, I have never met a 10. Well, clip that. There's no met a 10. Yo, well, on my mommy line for the point. I've met a lot of eights, but I've never met a 10. Yo, be honest. I swear, on my scale, I've never met a 10. Honestly. Honest, honest, I've never met a 10. Oh my god. You're definitely lying. No, I swear. I swear. Because like, because like for me, I also scale things differently, right? Because like I scale things based off of where you are, too. Like a new a New York City eight is not the same eight that you get in like Pennsylvania or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Oh, what the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_02 10:47

No, I'm just saying, I scale my I scale my my thing, my, you know, my scale is a little bit different. If you it's hard to get to a tender digress, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

I get like a five and a seven. Like, look, like people shit on sevens. Like, there's nothing wrong with wiping. No, there's nothing. No, there's no woman with wiping the five.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

There's this some six six point fives are good. Six point fives are good. If you get a six, then let's say a six. A six is good. There's a lot of women that are sixes that think they're like nine. Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

But to me, the only difference between an eight and a ten might be she may have that like a big nose. Or like she may have like she might wear a size 12 and feet.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

Like, I mean, but to me, a 10 is perfection. And I've never met like a a woman like I'm I don't even think I'm a 10. Let's not say that. But uh I don't I don't think I've ever met a 10.

SPEAKER_01 11:35

Like a woman named five off the top of my head. Who's perfect? Yo, Tim's, you're a 10. 10.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

Tim's is not a 10. Tim's is a 10. Tim's is not a 10. Tim's is a 10. Tim's is not a 10. You look like we love you like Tim's. We love you. Tim's is a 10. We love you, but Tim's is not a 10. Tim's is a 10. Okay. She's a 10 for you. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. No, it's subjective.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

But you can't tell me never in your life have you made a 10. Like crazy. I bet you made a one. No.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

I'm I don't I don't think I've ever met a one. A one is crazy. A one is realistic. No, to put a woman at a one? That's crazy. Well, you never seen someone go to the ball in a club. You see, he's out here doing this to you, women. I would never know a one.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Some dude. This is crazy. One is crazy, though. But if you if you go outside in a front circle, like if it's a known thing, like especially a woman, like they'll have a circle that is always the battle ones and the ones that they got great credit score.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

Yeah, yeah, for sure. In them, I would be like, all right, she's probably like a five, four, but not a one, not a one, a one is crazy. A one is crazy, one is crazy. Like, like it takes a lot for you to gain those points for me. And I'm just saying, no one's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

What way though?

SPEAKER_02 12:45

I mean, I I scale it with not only with her looks, but it's also her mindset as well. Okay, but what's like what how do you get there?

SPEAKER_01 12:53

It it's like I'm saying, what does her mindset have to be if you say, Oh, she's 10?

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Well, it's it's a maturity thing, how she thinks. Like, for me, I'm also attracted to intelligence as well. So it's all of that. It's all of that to equal the 10 for me.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

You tell me in life, you never meant somebody that's intelligent. Yeah, exactly. So you never mean nobody who has looks.

SPEAKER_02 13:15

Yeah, but what I'm saying is like let like let's say she's like uh four or five in looks. No, I'm not gonna be. But her intelligence is not a good thing. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying you're jumping five points, but I'm saying, but her intelligence is off the charts. I can move her up to a six, six and a half, maybe even a seven.

unknown 13:32

You tripping.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

I'm just saying, oh, you're tripping. Nah. You're tripping. Let's get back on trap. You're tripping. You're losing me right there. But no, but look, I do got something for you, right? So the makeshift project, right? Down to that pod. Shout out to that pod. Yes, yes, yes, for sure. They they did like a white guys no ball. They did like a search on Chat GPT for the top 25 artists of all time, right? And they had Kanye at number 23. So I just wanted to read off the 22 artists in in front of him and just see what you think. You can just do it yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

And this is like like all time, like that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

All time, all time, like just artists, and and it's like a compilation of everything, so it's not just sales or awards and stuff like that. Alright? So just yes or no? What you like, what you think? So number one, we got the Beatles.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

All right. Number two, we got Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

There's no way how the fuck are the Beatles ahead of Michael Jackson? I that's another thing. I don't I don't understand that.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

I don't go ahead. We do Chat GBT, you be bugging sometimes. All right. The third one, Ovis Presley. Hell no.

unknown 14:39

No.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

Hell no. Number four, we got Bob Dylan.

unknown 14:42

No.

SPEAKER_02 14:43

Don't think Bob Dylan's better either. Number five, we got Queen.

unknown 14:46

No. No.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Number six, Madonna. Hell no.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Nah, that's close. Madonna's a Madonna's still lit to this day, bro.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

No, she is, but do you think she's a better artist than Kanye?

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Off impact? She might be. That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

Number seven, they got Prince.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

No.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Wait, so you Madonna is a shaky, but Prince means a note. Kanye's not better than Prince. Oh. Oh, so your note means he's not better. Yes, yes. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Alright, so the Rolling Stones.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

I wasn't a lie for them boys, but they had they have a crazy impact. I'm gonna say no.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

We got number nine, Steve One, Stevie Wonder. No. Alright. Aretha Franklin at 10. No. You don't think Kanye better? Oh down listen. Les Epplin. Yes. Whitney Houston. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

Jay-Z. Yes. Tupac. Yes. Alright, there we go. Frank Sinatra. Yes. David Bowie.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

Yes. Beyonce.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

It's no way you telling me that he's that he is better than Whitney Houston, but he's not better than Beyonce gang.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Because Beyonce has the well, you put into like Whitney's not like Whitney vocally is she has the like Beyonce. Yeah. So that that's put that almost as oh she has she has the songwriting, but Beyonce puts on the show, bro. Like you take that into account with everything that you're saying and impact. But artistry and general. That's what goes into being an artist, bro. No, I know, but I'm saying like I'm taking over Beyonce. Everything I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 16:13

I'm gonna take Beyonce over Kanye. Alright, we could agree to disagree on that one. We got Nirvana.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

Yes. Alright, Eminem. Yes. Bruce Springstream. Yes. Mariah Carey.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

Yes. You two. Who?

unknown 16:28

YouTube.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Those motherfuckers that got the phone.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

We don't even know how the hell they got them, but it's just like, yeah, they got a contract with us, so you forced to take them. Till this day, that was one of the craziest things Apple did in my life.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

We could not delete them. You couldn't delete them. I couldn't even name a YouTube song, but that shit was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

I must absolutely not. Alright, but but it's fair to say that majority of those artists that was on there. You're saying Kanye a better artist?

SPEAKER_01 16:55

No, I mean, like we I don't shit on. Like generational impact, like Kanye is one, like he's on the Mount Oshmore. When you talk about like overall artists and hip hop, he's up there. Like you can't, you know, especially for my generation. And we're talking about the people in the past, it's like it it gets murky as at some point becomes subjective in what you like. But sonically, like you were saying, you hear some of these songs like power and through the wire, some of these songs that you hear, but you can't say you can't fake the punk on John. You know what I'm saying? So I I I I do say that, but I do think when I when you're talking about them, but I I I just think the album did slightly fall short on my expectation.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

All right, before we move on to the next one, I do want to talk about for a little bit. Tori Lane's just released the album, Sluddy Bass.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

I ain't gonna lie to y'all, he been wanting to talk about Tori.

SPEAKER_02 17:42

Tori Lane's just released Slutty Bass. And I'm not gonna lie to you, but something that was recorded on the prison phone, to come with those 808s and that 80, that 80 sound, is just, I'm not gonna lie. I'm addicted to that 80 sound, man. Like from Alone At Prom to this. Oh my gosh. Like, like I'm just gonna keep reiterating. Sonically, they're giving me what I want to hear. This is feel-good music. You could dance to it, you could vibe to it, it's gonna make the ladies move. He got a birthday song on there where he's talking about ladies backing it up on you for the birthday. You know, we we're always gonna prove it.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

I'm gonna just let y'all know Tori Lane was not on our script because they talk about the book. I got the great segue. They're speaking about prison. This nigga going to jail again.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Who's going to jail now?

SPEAKER_01 18:36

So if you ask City, as we went down, the city said, What segment? We're gonna talk about Pooh Shyste, what he did to Gucci, man. I I think we talk about like dumbest criminals. I think he gotta be he went on down there list of top 20 dumbest criminals, it might be Pooh Shisey maybe up there. So for those who don't know what Pooh Shystee did, and for those who don't know who Pooh Shyste is, which I'm gonna follow, I'm pretty sure who Shystee is, but he got the one big song is Get It Back in Blood. That's his song. You don't know what it is who that is. If you know what that song is, then I'm gonna say, but Pooh Shyste, that's his biggest hit, arguably. And so recently over the weekend, Pooh Shysti, or not with the weekend, this was yesterday, was the day before that, but it might have been yesterday. Yesterday, two days ago, right? Uh Pooh Shisey was arrested by the feds or I don't want to say allegedly because he ain't found guilty yet, but this video and everything else of what he did. Gucci man, he held Gucci Man basically hostage at uh Gucci's record label with him, Vic Dirty, and Pooh Shyste's dad. And Pooh Shysti basically said, Yo, I went out of my contract, put out an AK-47 on Gucci Man, and basically the diamonds out of his ear. Yeah, and they stripped him down and basically said, Yo, I went out of my contract, signed this contract. He then Gucci Man basically says this is not how shit gets done. He signs the contract. I just thought it's crazy was he's saying that after he slid the after Gucci signed the contract, Gucci Man allegedly didn't date it. And he who shased the contract over to his dad, and his dad then looks at the contract and says, Oh, wait, he didn't date this shit. Make sure Gucci man puts his date on it.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

You can't make this shit crazy because like first off, this is not in with NWA, NWO, like you are not Ice Q, my buddy.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Even go as far as I mean, he's not he's not the locks either, because they did that with Diddy.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

And not only that, but in today's day and age, a judge will easily void whatever signed because under duress. You can't do that. You cannot do that.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

That's just like, well, on so many levels, bro. Like, I I well, and I can understand you might be in a fan of your contract or the contract you signed. You might be like, yo, you get involved, and which does happen in his defense, might be happening. We don't know how much money he got been getting ripped off from Gucci Man. That it that could be possible, 100%. I'm not saying that's not happening, but you can't also strong arm a dude menacing with a with a with a with a with a with an AK and think you get out of a contract and that's gonna work. And not think the feds are gonna be happy after that. Like, yeah, even if Gucci man Gucciman saying he didn't snitch, but even if you said he didn't, well, this is a public, this is a you went inside a you this was not done at in the back alley. Well I'm saying people saw there if you look at the affidavits, people saw what you were doing. They asked that there was a cop that was broken, and someone told him, Yo, go upstairs, I think there's someone's men seeing somebody with a gun. Like this, like this is not made up, like this is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

And it's just like you like what expectations did you have with this situation where you were gonna blast Gucci and say, oh, he's supposed to be this street dude, so he's not supposed to snitch. First off, he is far removed from the streets. I don't think anybody even today would think that Gucci is a street dude anymore. Far removed that him and Walker thinking. Yeah, like he was a decade ago. You know what I'm saying? Like he's a businessman and he's in his office when you're doing this. So to even think that you would just get away with it and just go to social media, like, oh, he's snitching. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Well like not only that like I ain't even trying to throw his like conditions, but Gucci has like schizophrenia. Like I ain't gonna feel nobody schizophrenia with a gun, bro. Like that's it's crazy. Like there's so much wrong with this with this story. And I I I don't know if Pooh Shaisty I mean, like I said, Gucci basically said, yo, this ain't how it's done, and Goo and Pooh Shysti said, I don't basically say, yo, I don't give a gun. I don't care. I don't care. Like this is what I'm doing, like I'm a gangster. Yo, but like there's no you're a fool. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Especially after you literally just got out of jail. He's wearing an ankle monitor. You know what I'm saying? Like you can't make it up. And then you're trying to fight the allegations that you're like not an informant and working with the feds, but then you do something that literally, if you get like if he doesn't go back to jail for a situation like this, it's nobody in the world that's not gonna believe he's not working with the feds. Oh, you mean because to get to get out of the city? Yeah, to get out of this? You I mean walking with an ache. Like it it'd be different if it's just like alleged. We don't got no proof. But we got video proof. So if you manage to get out of something like this, they gonna know you're working with the feds.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

Um I don't want to say that I don't want to say that because it could easily be that Gucci could end up just being like not a compliant witness.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

That's true, but but what DA is gonna turn that down? This is a this is a celebrity case. Ain't no DA gonna turn that down, they'll press charges for Gucci.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

I mean, yeah, I mean that that's that's that's true too. I I just think that bro, like when you when you talk about like artists that do dumb things, well, top of the list. And I don't even heard of the uh other rapper, Big 30. I never heard of them. You know who that is?

unknown 23:35

Nah.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

Well, I think Big 30 might, is that his dad?

SPEAKER_01 23:38

No, this was Gucci's artist. No, Big Dirty's also.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

Oh, Big 30 was also with them trying to like yo, you get out to yours, I'm getting out of mine too.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

I think there's something like that because uh allegedly that uh there was uh I'm gonna get started correct. I believe it also was if Vic Dirty's not Gucci's artist, there was another artist named Scar who passed away who was under Gucci's like label, and who shristed he felt like he was also being done dirty in his day, also. So there's a lot of there's a lot that's going into this, but this also happened in Texas. Like Texas don't play about nothing with phones when it comes to these types of climbs, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 24:11

So this is I I well life and this is insane.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

I think the big thing too is like when you're a young artist, you just have to like be well aware with these contracts you sign in. No contract you signing with no label, especially if it's under an artist, is it gonna be a favorable deal for you? You're not gonna make the the money that you think it is, you're always gonna owe them money back. So, I mean, I'm not saying that I'm this like big knowledgeable guy, but I know one thing that they always say is when you're that guy, they're gonna find you. And I mean, I'm gonna watch the case. No, no, no. I'm saying, like, like there's some artists that are really good, but like when you're the guy, like when labels are coming to you and they're like, yo, we want to sign you because we're gonna make money off you, you're gonna make money. Sometimes you should take that into account and be like, yo, they found me and they think I'm this already, and I already got a following. Maybe I don't need the label route. Maybe I could go to independent route and uh I'm not gonna make as much money, but I'm gonna be able to be free to do what I want to do compared to like these people holding my money up, or they'll give me $10 million, and then I owe them that $10 million, but I didn't even make $10 million off my damn music.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

I think every artist is different. I think there's plenty of artists that I've come across and known and they're to be super talented, but then also like it's not easy to blow up. You're always chasing that one. And I think sometimes you can find a form of you need the resources. Like you get the resources behind you with the label that you have a chance to blow up. And I think sometimes they make that decision. And in this decision, I thought shicely thought he was making that decision, and clearly that's wasn't the case because you don't do this if you're making money and do what you're supposed to do. You only do this if you think you're getting lobbed, or someone's not that they're not pushed, the label's not behind you back and you didn't go the way they should be. And in this situation, Kapu Shicky clearly felt a way to do this, but uh uh A does not have to equal B like just because you feel like you're being shortchanged, whatever case may be, they're playing with you. You don't do nothing like this because now what's the outcome? You're not gonna make it now, you dare if you're not gonna make no money.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

You know what I'm saying? And and it and it goes back to just like stand on your decisions. You decided to sign that contract. You signed that contract for certain percentages, and if you're not getting that back, it's obviously because whatever way you thought you were gonna be finessing to get the money, you're not doing it properly. So stand on your decisions. You made that decision, there's no need for you to be doing the rest of the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

That's a fact. And now we're gonna switch segments to we're gonna talk about a segment. Speaking of artists that has the label behind them, this is one of the biggest artists in the country right now, arguably, and that's Chris Brown. So we talked about this that this was before the last pod. We were talking about if what she said, what she said if Cardi put me on stage without copy the end of Tim.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

I'm familiar with asked the question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Britt Britt asked you if Tim's pulled you on stage if you accept in the last days.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

And I said no, if my girl is there. And I told, like, you know, she gonna have to hold that L. Well, someone had to hold that L this week, and it's the show that was at the recent Chris Brown concert. We're seen making, I don't want to say making out, but they nah nah nah. She she she threw the tongue in there. She threw the tongue in there. That that's that's considered making out at the concert, and the cameras, shout out to these cameramen don't be getting enough, but shout out to the cameraman who knew what section she came from and pinned to the right and found the husband. Found the husband. They knew how to knew where to find the husband, and that boy's heart was in his chest.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

Yeah, like you, you knew it was a disappointment because of the shake of the head. Like, like you, you know when you shake your head and you just like, yo, I can't believe like the audacity. The audacity. And uh, and I understand because you know, we all have those things when you're in a relationship and you like, yo, I'll let you get the pass for that one person, but I know damn sure he didn't think that Chris Brown was gonna be actually following his wife on stage.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Granted, she is a baddie, she's a beautiful woman. I've seen the pages on Instagram. She's baddie, but well, this is this is like what we talked about last week. This is why I said Pan was to call me up there. You don't put yourself in that type of situation like that, because this is nothing like following your ex on Instagram. This is not nowhere near the same. This is when you put yourself in a situation where you know your emotions and everything is gonna get the best of you in that spirit, because this is a once-in-lifetime opportunity for her, for sure. Like if you're actually a married, and it's not just her, but if you're a map, actually a married woman who's like devoted to a man, or but you just a Chris Brown is just your celebrity quest, which we all have celebrity quests, you know what I'm saying? And you never think that, oh, he's gonna call me up. Like you may say, oh, uh, it's gonna be me, but deep down like, nah, like there's no, and then when you actually do get called, this is why some people say you have to say no, because when stuff like this happens, and like people try to bash Chris Brown, oh, why does he even do that? His show. That boy is an entertainer. And you know what? Let him entertain.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

And you know what? Before this, before this actual clip, it was a lot of people that thought that this was actually fake, that he doesn't actually kiss them because the way they pan off the cameras and stuff like that, or the angles that he hits, you don't really know if he's actually making out with the girl. Right, it's face-to-face. And the fact that this one, you actually see the clip and she like you know, you can see her in this shit. You can see her. She don't even look over to a man over there.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Cheating at eating the moment, she don't even look over to the where old boy's sitting at.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

And to do that in front of your husband, that's where the disrespect comes into play. I mean, because like if he's not at the show, don't get me wrong. It's still no no, it's still bad. It's still bad. But to me, I feel like to be in the building and have to witness that, to be in the building and have to witness that is way worse than seeing that shit online. I think either way, I'll be hurt either way. No, no, I think like I'll be hurt.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

I think it makes it even worse. If it's in person, she's taking the cab home. If it's if I'm watching it for the first time online, I'm packing my bags and leaving. I think either way, like, there's a conversation that's gonna be had it's gonna be a different conversation.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

Yeah, divorce, but divorce lawyer on speed out.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

I don't want to take it that far. Nah, divorce lawyer on speed out, bro. How are you recovering from that? I mean, this is this goes into a different conversation. We eventually get to the power, but even to touch on it real quick, though, I think people forgive people for cheating all the time. That's true. Like they like they do it, and I think women might I think it's split. Men cheat, women cheat. I don't think there's one more than the other, especially in our line of race. Like we see is like I've seen it enough to know it's split right down the middle. But I do think the difference between accepting uh or forgiving or trying to rekindle with a cheater is the fact that especially for guys, is this is seen this went this went viral. That's what I'm saying. Homeboy's gonna be flaming your ball. You can't take a battery, your ball, like yo. Not only that, but if he wasn't there, she would have slipped him his number, took you back to the hotel. Like it it's always magnified worse when the outside people are in your in on your relationship. It's not private. Now it's this is on this is on Centre Street, you know what I'm saying? It's it's clear as day what happened.

SPEAKER_02 31:01

And then not only that, but you gotta think about it. Not only did it happen in front of you, but it happened so easy. It didn't take it take no effort. I mean so you so you think about it like that boy got motioned. No, no, it he do got motion. But just imagine now she wanna go out with her friends and there's other dudes with motion. You not there. That's going that's gonna eat at you. And and I'm not saying that you know you you gotta be like super insecure to where you can't trust her anymore. But I'm just saying that those thoughts may slip into his head again after this situation.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

I mean, that's I I think uh it's two separate things because of course the trust factor is definitely gonna be gone. But when you go to some of these concerts, like the Usher concert, we told us I've won the podcast, it's a known thing what Usher is gonna do. That's why I think you have to have these conversations with your lady that yo, because you up there, I don't feel comfortable with you going. Like I put you this way, well, they was front wall. If he paid for those tickets, he paid you feel what I'm saying. He paid some jobs. You know, he if he drop, you know what I'm saying? Even if she paid for it, it don't make a difference because you you're married, like it doesn't make a difference if you pay for it or he paid for it. But you gotta have these conversations and it you like you said, this has been going on for a long time with Chris Brown, so you know what's gonna happen if you get called on that stage. And you might think, okay, at best, he might bust on my girl or you know, nibble on her ear, sound a little. I might be uncomfortable, but I just couldn't think. You know what I'm saying? Like it'll be a conversation, you'll be salty, whatever. I think, but eventually you'll be like, I whatever. Come on, make it now, is like the act is over with. Now you the lines are clearly been crossed. There's no gray area behind it. You know what I'm saying? So how do you like that's what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 32:37

And to me, I just see like I just see it a little worse because like it didn't look like Chris Brown really initiated it too much. Like he was there, yes. So you knew you knew it was like he was waiting you think he you think he was gonna keep a PG 13. I I feel like it it was a chance he could have kept a PG, or just like if he got in close, it was gonna be one of those, like, you know, I'm not gonna go too far. But the fact that she was just like, nah, come here, come here, do the tongue in his mouth. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's that's where he got a little bit. Yeah, no, 100%. That's where it's like, it's yeah, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like, how do you just eat that? Like, how do you take that L as the man?

SPEAKER_01 33:17

Love makes you do crazy things, big boy. Like, I don't know. Like that's true. So you if that happens, you think you you're leaving your girl if he does that? Be honest with a pod, bro. I think I think if we being honest, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

I think yeah, and it would be hard, because you know the the love is there, but I don't know if I'd be able to recover from that. And it's not even just like, like I said, I don't even think it's just like a old in your ego or insecure type of thing, but it's just like yo, it's just the way it happened to me. Because it was just like fast, I'm right there, so there was like no level of respect. And it's just like I understand that's Chris Brown, but I'm your man. Exactly. I feel I feel like you should feel like my motion is just as good as Chris. Sorry to tell you, bro. It's not nah, I'm tripping. Well, he's tripping because my motion is definitely there. C B ain't got nothing on me.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

I think when you break this down and look at it, well, I think that it's I if this is your wife, I I I don't think a divorce is gonna be imminent. I think it's something you might have to try and work through at first because I think they're married. This is a regular relationship, yeah, you can come out the door. But if you guys are actually married, then I I think something you might have to try and work out. I'm not it's not to say it's it's gonna work out because it's always gonna be there, but like, well, there's so many layers to that, like the family, like my mom gotta see that. Like my mom be talking to me crazy, blowing up my line.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

And you know, moms sometimes like you know, they already be like, I already like it to begin with.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Exactly crazy now, John. So I don't know, it's it's it's murky, it's murky. Now, speaking of moms and family members, we had we've seen this in the comments before on other podcasts, and it kind of sparks our idea of when is it too much, or when do you say no to lending family members or friends money? What is actually the boundary that you have to set up? No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

I heard the I heard the first part, right? What was that last part you said?

SPEAKER_01 35:20

You have to set a boundary.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

You have to set a boundary. I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm probably the worst person you should ask for this. If you ask anybody that's close to me, they know when it comes to like lending friends or family money, you know. Sometimes I'm I'm real bad because I will I will give my last, and like sometimes they don't even like it's no limit to exceed. Not saying that y'all should try to hit me up for no money, because we ain't got no. But I'm just saying, like also I'm a very giving person when it comes to that. So sometimes I'll I will give if you need it, just because you know, I want to see my people doing good, you know what I'm saying? So if they need it, I'm definitely gonna look out. And I'm not even the type of person they'd be like, yo, for that thousand, you borrow for me that's not expecting it back. Not that I'm not expecting it back, because I do expect it back. So the boundaries come in. So if you say if you tell me if you tell me that you going like that you're borrowing it and you and you're gonna give it back, especially if you give a date that you're gonna give it back, I'm expecting it then. But I'm also not not pressing like, yo, you told me you was gonna give me this then. Like, you know, there have been times where I just like, you know, a person told me they was gonna give me something back, they either never gave it back or like that date come and they ain't give it back that date, and you know, you waiting for the money and stuff like that, you know? So sometimes I am.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

So you're taking the L. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

I take a lot of L.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

But do you also? Because this is why I think it pays into a fact of when you break it down, it's like, okay, yo, boy, you mind if I owe $50, I get back to you in a couple days. I don't go, all right, boy, yeah, whatever. Couple days come up, purchase. You don't hear from like I said, I'm not the type of either to like to text you, but then after it goes on like a week and a half and I still don't hear nothing from you. Like people know when they owe you money. Like, there's no like people know when they owe you.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

The conversation starts to change too. They won't hit you up as much, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

And yeah, boy, this is yo, you ever have someone ask you for money, bro, and then you give it to them and then you see them in the club that same night. Yo.

SPEAKER_02 37:18

Now, I don't know about the club the same night, but you definitely out to eat at restaurants and stuff like that. And you and and that's the thing, it be burning me. I'd be like, yo, I should say something, but then I'm also not the type of person to say something like that.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

But you're really thinking, then you might like, you feel what I'm saying? I thought you were behind on a bill or whatever the case may be, and then I see you out. Oh, oh man. So I think I think what it comes down to is that if you're in a situation where someone asks you for money and they don't pay you back the first time, the second time they come asking around, because that's what happens. They ask you once, not I thought they'd ask you. They did, they definitely, especially if they think we fucking got it. You feel what I'm saying? And so it's like I like I I see here's the thing. We've been voted the most two toxic dudes on the podcast by the listeners. Don't know why. Don't know how. Don't know how. The truth is set you free. Well, you can't keep asking me for money. 100%. Unless you're my mom or like my sister, you cannot keep asking me for money. Because eventually I'm gonna say no. Okay. You mean like without you mean like without paying you back? Yeah, no, they without paying me back. I mean my mom's I don't never see my mom's really pay back. You know what I'm saying? Mom dudes don't never pay back. But my mom doesn't have to even ask me either, like it's you know what I'm saying? So, but like, and I mean you know me, like I'm a I tell the pod, I tell whatever. I'm fooled. I ain't even gonna I don't got nothing to have with nobody. If I pay, if I pay, I got no problem for paying for certain things and it's certain things like yo, well, like I would have had my career furniture by family dollar if it fucking would last, feel what I'm saying? So with certain shit, I just be like, yo, bro, like I just said, yo, if someone asks for money, but then I see him out on the gram or something. I'm like, yo, bro, all right, see now like nah.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

But you you play with my emotions, Smokey.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

Yeah, like that's crazy. They pay is the YouTube ever pay them back, like, yo, bro, like that is we can't be doing that, bro.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

I'm gonna be honest with you. I think also like the amount of money also, like, at least for me, that's where it's gonna really like lay down the foundation for how we're gonna move moving forward. Because if it's like $50, like most of the time, I'm just I'm just gonna buy it. It's clever. You know, let's start reaching like the $350, $500.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

The threshold is to be honest, it's $250.

SPEAKER_02 39:29

Once you pass $250, it's like it might just be like, like, all right, bro. You told me you was gonna give me that drone back. Now I might have to set a little boundaries. You might ask, and next time I might have it, but I might be like, I ain't got it, bro.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

So if someone always pays you, yo, let me hold $250. I get back to you next week. Next week comes, are you asking where's the money?

SPEAKER_02 39:50

No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I I'm not gonna just directly ask you. I'm gonna wait to because, like you said, you already know you owe me bread. So you if you give me the money, like you know, everything's smooth, everything's cool. But like sometimes I do give you, like, I'll give people a couple extra days or like a even a week. Because, like, you know, sometimes situations happen. You might have needed it then when I loaned it to you, but then now when you expected to pay me back, shh, now your car just broke down. You needed the bread. So, like, you know what I'm saying? So I give you some time to realize like you owe me. And and like don't get me wrong, like I have certain people that they know they'll come to me because they know I'm not gonna be that person that's gonna pressure them, be able to throw it in their face, like, yo, I gave you this, I gave you that, or like be pressing them for the bread, so they'll come to me and ask me, which is why I said I'm like one of the worst people to ask this question.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

But I think it's but that's what I'm saying with creating the boundary, because I I think there's nothing wrong with telling somebody after you give them a they give you a deadline of a week, they don't pray in a week. Then two or three weeks later go, but I think there's nothing wrong with saying, yo, but you said you owe me this, like, all right, where's that? I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Like, I like I think it's like an unspoken rule because as adults, if you know you're not gonna pay me back on time, hit my line back, yo, bo, I know I owed you this, blah, blah, blah. Like, now you can't run away from an uncomfortable conversation because like I tell my kids sometimes, like when she if you need something from me, I could have no problem asking me, whatever. So you had no problem asking me for the money, but now that you gotta pay me back, it's yo, I've been meaning to text you, X, Y, and Z. Like, yo, Bo, stop playing, big bo. Like, what are we like what are we really doing, bro?

SPEAKER_02 41:19

I mean, it I feel like it also kind of depends on the dynamic of your relationship, too. Because like me, I'm not the type of person I don't really go around asking people for money. That's it. Like, like it's only specific people that I know for a fact that I'll ask them for money. Why? Because the same thing, they're not gonna throw it in my face if I need to give it back a little bit later, or they're not gonna be like, yo, I launched you this, I launched you that. So, like, I do have a friend that, like, you know, sometimes that friend borrows money from me, or I borrow money from them, and like we'll be like, all right, I'll pay you back on this day. If you don't get the money back on that day, it's not that the person just not trying to pay you back, but it's just like either it really did slip their mind, or they just like, yo, I know he's gonna ask me for bread, like right then. So we just passing it. Almost like almost like a sussu, just passing that drone back. Passing that book. So, like, I do have like, you know, a couple friends where we do stuff like that. And I do have a couple friends that'll look out, like, yo, you in a Taiwan, I got you. But me personally, I always make sure if I borrow something from somebody, I don't I don't like having debts. So if I borrow something from somebody, whatever date I said I was gonna give it to you, you you get that shit early in the morning. Right. Or be like, yo, my check dropped at four o'clock. I got you.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

I respect that, I respect that. So speaking of that, we're gonna shift to the yo, that's crazy segment, and this segment is kind of packed out. We got a lot for y'all, a lot to unpack. We're gonna start off with the biggest thing that's turning on right now in the NBA, and that's the Jaden Ivy comments that I was recently said. Let me get the quote exactly. So Jaden Ivey seems like he's been unraveling over the last time. Because he was on IG a lot live for I think two separate days for like over like five plus hours, like just talking about the law. That's an apple pie. He said uh the on the recent quotes that people are suggesting that got away is the world can proclaim LGBTQ, right? But they put they proclaim Pride Month in the NBA, they proclaim it, they show it to the world. They say, Come join us for Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness. They proclaim it on the billboards, they proclaim it in the streets. It's unrighteous. So he said this and he has Mobis accounts over 250,000 followers, and he said this and uh surely after that he was cut. Now there's so many there's so many ways to go and discuss this, and even in our loop chat. But uh I'm gonna reserve my uh opinion for you for you to go first. Let me know what you think.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

Yeah, so first of all, it's better ways to go about this situation, especially because then you start mentioning players like Stephen Curry, you start singling out players and stuff like that, saying that they're not righteous because they don't do certain things as a as a Christian. You don't have to do all of that. Another thing you end up Losing your wife and your family for the situation because you just feel so devout as a Christian that you just feel like everything that you feel is unholy and unrighteous needs to be said. Your career was already starting to decline, my boy, because of the injuries and you not being able to get the same contracts that you was gonna get as a healthy player. So you want to run the risk of not only affecting your career, affecting your family, everybody that you care for, and everybody that you take care of. But you want to start talking about like this has nothing to do with you. How people want to live their life or how the NBA wants to promote the people that live their life has nothing to do with you. God didn't specifically put people on this earth to say, oh, okay, this person is living unrighteous. You have to be the specific person to go tell them and do whatever actions to them.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

According to him, that's that's the case.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

I guess this this man's a prophet.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

According to him, so I'ma just like I said, I was observing my opinion for that Jordan go first. And that's not because I'm siding with Jaden Ivy, but I don't think this is the reason why he was cut. No, I like that that's a combination of that. So that's what I didn't like was the narrative that was that, oh, he's homophobic and that's why he cut him. No. I can guarantee you if Kay Cunningham, who was on his team, said this, Kay would not be cut. Well, at one point wasn't on the same team as him. Of course not.

SPEAKER_02 45:33

He definitely he would be suspended, but not cut.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Josh Giddy had. We all know what Josh Giddy was allegedly picked up and was allegedly doing. He OKC, let him go in Chicago, welcoming him in. You feel what I'm saying? So Pete teams would tolerate you based on what your talent is. And people say, oh, that's unfair, get a fucking helmet and go to work. Life is unfair. Like that's that that's the bottom line. There's double standards in life, and you cannot run from it. I remember uh Bill Belichick used to say the famous joke with uh with uh Bill Parcells, where Bill Belichick was defensive pony for the Giants, and he was like, yo, Lawrence Taylor was 15 minutes late. And Bill Parcell said, How's he 15 minutes late? Why'd you start the meeting? Exactly. Like you cannot protect there's double standards in life for a reason. People would tolerate you if you produce. Like there's no ifs and but to bother. So I don't think this guy was cut because he's homophobic. I think he was cut because checked up, checked in the he was not producing. He was a menace in the locker room, of course. He just was he nobody wants to work with him. And so then if you're doing this, yo, bo, it'll bother him. Well, like like you said, like you're not, you're not, the juice is not worth the squeeze. Exactly. Like, and there's nothing wrong with that. Like you could say life is unfold life is unfair. Life is unfair. Like, there's it's well known that that's Mark Jackson was let go because they felt he was too religious, yeah, preaching. Well, if they don't want to hear that, they will pack you up. And there's nothing wrong with that. Look at Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow. I mean, Tim Teb wasn't good enough.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

No, but but what I'm saying is, right? So Tim Tebow was good enough to win your team a playoff game, like a big playoff game. You know what I'm saying? There's no way you're telling me he's good enough for you to start him at quarterback, win a big playoff game, and then now he's not good enough to even be on the team anymore. But it's the religious thing. Yeah, nobody wants to deal with religion. Like, it's the same thing like schools, how they don't want to put religion in schools. The reason they don't want to put religion in sports too much. Because you know, in football, everybody prays and all that other stuff. NBA, a lot of people pray. You'll see the prayer circles and stuff like that. But it's it's when it becomes too holier than now. You're better than other people because you're a Christian.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

I mean, you going around the locker room and tell them that people are unrighteous isn't it? So it's like yeah, I like I don't I I think that eventually he became like, yo, but you're just not it's not worth it. They're not saying you can't play an NBA again, they're just saying you're not gonna play on our team. Yeah, for sure. Because it's not that he's not talented.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

No, because he's actually really a talented player, but it's like you haven't been healthy, so you you're not able to produce as much as they said that the important point was that he went to the trainer and said, Yo, I'm fine, like there's nothing wrong with my knee.

SPEAKER_01 48:09

And they were like, I think we should get an MR. And he and Jaden Ivy said the Lord told me my knee was fine. And they did an MRI and it was like, yo, well, mental health is important.

SPEAKER_02 48:16

And I just would like to say that when it comes to situations like this, you should get checked out. Because especially him being like, you know, there was a point where he even stated before that there might have been situations where he was feeling depressed and stuff like that. You got it. Mental health is important. Everybody has to get checked out.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

That boy, Jaden Ivy was on this. So that's crazy. The Lord said my knee is fucked up.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

That's what he said in the MVD more. Yo, your knee is shit fucked up, big boy. What are you talking about? Bro, I'm I'm just saying, like, you know, I as a person that had knee injuries, I'll print the gallant all the time and be like, yo, make this shit right, but that don't mean it's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

You feel what I'm saying? So that that shit was crazy. But we I digress. We're gonna get into another pressing topic was happening in Maryland, not too far away from Chicago. I mean, actually, I'm fucking type of a deep flight. But anyway, here in Maryland, there's crazy story. I don't know if you guys saw. Lady was getting some work done on her crib. Did you see this, Jordan?

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Oh my. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 49:16

Yeah, she was getting some work done on her crib and was like, alright, I'm gonna go find me some six migrants to fix my roof. Find the six migrants to fix the crib, Jordan. I think everybody knows what she looks like. Yeah. Invoice comes, the bill is 10K. She said, Yo, I got one, I got something better. I'm gonna call Ice McCall. Oh my god. Ice came and packed him up, and she tried to skip out on the $10,000 bill, Jordan. Please give us your thoughts.

SPEAKER_02 49:42

I mean, I feel like everybody thinking the same thing here. Like, I'm pretty sure people, like I said, people know what she looks like. But at the end of the day, like that that's just foul business work. Because you got people out here trying to, like people out here trying to like live their life and and gain opportunities that they they won't be able to receive in in other places that they come from. You know what I'm saying? This is supposed to be America, a land of the free, home of the brave, and it's supposed to be like a big melting pot of all different cultures, religions, and everything coming together to succeed, to succeed that one goal of just like you know, living a prosperous life. And the fact that you feel like people don't belong here, but at one time people probably were saying the people that like you know your ancestors and stuff that came here don't belong here. And that that's the the way you the way you go about things, doing dirty practices like this, like hiring people that you you already knew what they was coming with. So you you didn't go specifically to a company that you knew had all workers that was properly documented and stuff like that. You knew what it was when you brought them in here, and your intentions from the beginning was to hire them to you know skip out on a bill.

SPEAKER_01 50:55

It's crazy. So the lady young lady's name is gonna be Karen Trevino. She's the one there in the right. She's uh she was also later arrested for extortion, which is great. Really? Yeah, they oh I didn't know that part.

SPEAKER_02 51:12

Shout out to who whoever arrested her.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

And she's also she claimed that her family was facing death threats and everything else else under the sun. Well, it takes a special human being. I I that that I think is one I don't agree with the tax. But it takes a different human being to sit there and do that. To devise a plan like that is crazy. You know what I'm saying? And to skip on a $10,000 bill. It's well, then don't get the house fixed. There's other there's there's other avenues you could you could explore before getting people and however you feel about migrants, you can feel like some people, some can be here, whatever, X, Y, and Z, that's not really the conversation. This is just a sense of your your moral compass and who you are as an individual. And so if you do something like this, it's just you just you just lack morals that I don't think anybody could truly align with because I don't think this makes you a valued American citizen doing something like this. Because if you if you were to sit here and told me you have a plan to like you want to do a sting operation on migrants who are molesting kids, they had to have a a pedophile ring, you know what they're doing. But they're also contractors. We're gonna hire them to we're gonna put an ad out and then we're gonna get them out, something like that or device a real plan. These guys are quadriling, these six quadrilions are just sitting here trying to fix it, get a job done on your roof, taking a chance. You went to you went to export because you knew it was at home people. You know, you you you you you were so methodical in the way you try to act, and then it's so malicious that you can't expect anybody to get behind you, and now you can't cry and say you're a victim either, because that's that's like insane. Now you're really just trying to double down on your privilege. Like, well, like that's insane. Double down on the privilege is crazy. That's it's crazy. You know, you're just trying to take it you're you you're truly exploiting people. And well, like like some people I just feel like that it doesn't get talked about enough. And I'm not even talking about just like racism or anything like that. There's some people just aren't just built with a code. Well, no, for sure. They just lack just a morality clause, like they just do not have it. Like at some point, it just like it skipped them somehow, some way, like it like I don't understand how it's like.

SPEAKER_02 53:10

No, for sure. It it think about it like this, right? You're under like you're saying that you feel like these people don't belong here. So you feel like these people don't belong here, but I'm gonna use them real quick. I'ma use them, and then now they don't belong here. But it's like that's crazy. You fish you f you did my job.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

You did you I needed something you did it. Like that's and the funny thing is like these people aren't they're not now gonna be released by ice. Once you're detained by them, that's it. It's over, the job's done. They're not left, you know what I'm saying? This ain't no, this ain't like you're getting released from Central Book and here in the Bronx. Like, that's it, you cook.

SPEAKER_02 53:44

Speaking of privilege, right? I just wanted to touch this topic real quick. So, so uh whatchamacallit? The NFL pro day for Fernando Mendoza, right? And every all of the reports out of that camp was he had an amazing pro day, amazing pro day. And they all skipped the fact that just last year, when Shador Sanders was having his pro day, or when he was doing all of the press running and stuff like that, they made sure to bash him every step of the way with different articles about how he's tapping the ball before the throws. So that's not a quality release for NFL quarterbacks, or oh, that will make it where he won't succeed in NFL. That's not the same rhetoric for Fernando Mendoza. What you think about that, my boy?

SPEAKER_01 54:35

I mean, I think there's no uh denying the way they treated uh Sanders last year. He was definitely being blackballed, but I do think, to answer your question, I think Mendoza's a better prospect than Shador.

SPEAKER_02 54:48

I mean, I mean, and I don't and I don't think that that's a bad thing because I'm not even saying that like Mendoza's not good, but I'm just talking about like the double standard. He's doing the exact same thing on every throw, and now it's not so so big on slowing down a release, or it's not a big as big of an issue for all the teams out there for the media to be portraying to everybody. So it's just like another double standard, doubling down on that standard, as you said.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

Right, no, they definitely are, and I think I think there's nobody and like we all know the most viable position in NFL is quarterback. So and there's not enough of them, good ones that is in the league. So I think the league was quick to try and hurdle the Sanders family and humble them the best they could, and the reports kept coming up, but there were people like Mel Kuper who was like, yo, boy, this guy is a this guy's a first round pick. I can't believe he's slipping this far. So he had some people in his corner, but like you were saying, there were more people that were going against the grain and started to double down on what was really what they felt was wrong with Shador. But I do think that Shador and company, uh I don't want to say he pulled a lot of people wrong this year. Because the the the jury's still out on how good a format we think he truly would be. Like the jury is still sex. The jury is still because that's not for nothing. The Browns don't have a real roster to even see where he could be, you know what I'm saying? But I do think that they did the narrative that they put on that man was beyond unfair. And like I'm a Falcon fan, but we hired uh Jeff Albrich, who was the principal coordinator whose son made that call saying that uh sisters do that, yo, we're about to pick you or whatever, and it it was like the way that he was treated throughout that process is arguably one of the worst things I think I've ever seen within the NFL. That was that I've seen within the NFL to actually do. And I commended the door because professional. Yeah. Uh he he did that to the T. You know what I'm saying? So he didn't waver or he didn't do any of that, he just kept his head down. And as much as you want to shit on on Dion for how him being too cocky or whatever, I can't say his kid is not professional because after all that, he didn't see lash out or do anything like that. He's like, Yo, I'm gonna play ball and prove you're wrong. And so far, to an extent, he's made some mistakes, but he's proving I think some people wrong, but time will tell. I think that the Browns' biggest problem now is surrounding him with talent. But then I also just recently seen that um uh Haslam, who owns the Browns, said he expects Deion Watson Watson Watson. That's what I'm saying. Like it's he he he just he he's put in a position to fail.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

Yeah, it's it's like it's an uphill battle for him the whole time, but you know, you know, biggest soldiers. You know, he got that sanders on his back. You know, we ain't never gonna doubt nobody with the sanders on the back.

SPEAKER_01 57:30

That's very true. So we're gonna switch over to our segment. It's gonna be a little bit different now because we don't have uh two ladies here to uh kind of shift their own narrative, I guess you'll say. You know, put the cape on for the ladies. Right. So uh we're gonna switch to the first thing. So this is I feel like this is a real voice question, though. Like I don't feel like this is a woman's question. The woman may do it too, but they'll let us know in the comments. All right, big bo. Do you tell your boys that they're messing with a slot? I don't want to say slot, that's a little dual. They're messing with someone who's been around.

SPEAKER_02 58:04

Um I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm I'm real big on like, you know, your decision on who you want to mess with is your decision. Now, granted, if we all know the rep uh the reputation of the female before it gets to the point of like they locked in, locked in, then you know, obviously we're gonna have a conversation about it, and and we definitely gonna like you know, chop it up about the whole situation, break it down. But at the same time, you're a grown man, so your decision is your decision. So I'm not gonna just try to influence your decision by telling you, oh nah, don't do this, don't do that. Well, we yeah, we're gonna talk about it. What you think? I'm gonna be honest with a pod.

SPEAKER_01 58:46

Honesty is good. First thing that you gotta say, if we know what what what what does she look like?

SPEAKER_02 58:52

All right, let's let's say let's say she's let's say she's an eight, but she's my she's an eight for me. Right? Which means she probably like a nine, nine and a half for you.

SPEAKER_01 59:00

I ain't even gonna play those games with you, but she's solid looking. If this is where, and ladies, please listen to me because I'm not I'm not lying. This plays a part because guys will often and women do this too, but I know guys do it more because I'm a guy. Guys will tolerate more if she looks better. There's no ifs and buts about that. For sure. And they will put some women on the press, like, yo, you too good to be X, Y, and Z. No woman is too good to be a hoe. Women who look good who do it, they're women who don't look good who do it. Same with men, it's vice versa. It has nothing to do with looks, has nothing to do with your how promiscuous you are. That's the best way to put it. So when you take that out of it, some of my boys I know if they can't, they don't have the game to try and get a good girl. They don't. They're they're so they're put up with a woman who has been around. And I can only say one time, yo, bro, such and such, I know such and such and such and such did that. But hey, if you don't care, yo, bro, that's like I can't, like, I think they like you said they grown man. Okay, I can only tell them, but if you my man's like I'ma tell you, like, yo, like I mean, that's true. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna like I I I have a I feel like I has a it's like an unspoken rule. Like, I have to tell you that, yo, you've been with someone who's I know I've know, I personally know such and such has been with her. Now, and it's also there's also a difference, like, is the difference between yo, she was a jump off, or is it if it was like a relationship? Like, say if my boy was in a relationship with my boy was in a relationship with, let's say, a rent a girl named Amanda, they dated for like a year, and then my other boy, Michael, wants to date Amanda. Like, oh boy, that's such and such. I don't know if you know her ex-boyfriend, but her ex-boyfriend was like my boy, they was cool with it, whatever it didn't work out. But now, if you're telling me my boy Michael and my boy Robert are talking to this girl and she already smashed her upper, I'm like, yo, Michael, yo, just so you know, she's been around the block, not just because she fucked one guy, because she fucked multiple guys that I know and she was always single, that's how she gets down. I'm not saying she's a bad person for that. I'm just saying that I feel like it's your at some point it becomes your responsibility to tell your boy, yo, X, Y, and Z. Because here's my thing. If I tell you this is their background, don't come to me a month later. And be like, tell the world why you ain't telling me. Yeah, I feel like that's it. Because now I'm not the type of friend to say, I told you so. I don't have a friend to say, Yo, boy, you gotta make bad decisions. Because I'm gonna hold you accountable. Because if you know how something is, you can't sit there and not put a cape on and think you can change it. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

But you know what? I also look at the situation different. Because, like, to me, I would never label a female that unless it's like certain situations. Like me, if you if she's single and she's just having fun, I don't look at her like that. Because that because that's not gonna look for that. Because I'm not gonna look at a man for doing that either. You single, you're doing what you do. I'm not looking at you like that. To me, it's more so like, yo, she was in a relationship with this person, but she's not with this person, and she's that person and that person and that person wow things going on, you know. That's when I'm gonna be like, you know, for like foregone warning, bro. This is what she did when such and such. And it's gonna be the same thing with like my female friends. Like, you know, this is not this is not just women, men. No, no, no, no. I just want to say it for the pop, so they don't think that we just only talk about not just that, but just we're not specifically only talking about like the men's perspective. Because like my female friends is gonna be the same thing. If if I have some information like yo, he be dogging girls out, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:24

I think women are even worse with that because I like I have like we was talking about this in the chat before about uh when you guys mentioned about uh if a guy does a girl wrong when she doesn't want a relationship to the guy, is it his is it is it on him to stop talking to? And I was like, no. But I know women who would still deal with the guy who's already been honest with you and tell you this is not what they want, but then you get mad he's talking to somebody else. I'm like, yo, bro. Or if I text, like, yo, I got a home girl, she's just messing with, I ain't gonna say her name, but she was messing with some guy that she knows was doing dirty. I texted the other day, yo, what you doing, blah, blah, blah. She's like, oh no, I'm on a trip. I'm like, that's what's up. Like, where you at? Oh, I'm with such and such. I say, yo.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:02

I mean, I mean, but that's what that's what basically what you just said. Like, once you give them the warning, it's up to them. They grown ass people. So they can do what they want to after the warning.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:10

This is why I say as a friend, your only my limitations, I feel like as a friend, I'm warranted to tell you what I know. If I have information as your friend, I'm warranted, I I have to tell you. For sure. Like I'm obligated as your friend to tell you, yo, such and such cheated on her man with such and such.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:28

If you now try and cover just foregone conclusions, there's a chance that she could be cheating on you with not such and such.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:35

But just not it's not always once a cheater, always a cheater. It depends. But if I know you was with, if I know you was, if I know you're dating somebody, right? And you cheat on them with three different people, okay, like odds or you're a cheater. Because you're not doing just one person that you're just gonna leave, leave my boy with and go be with this guy and live happy ever after. If I know you're cheating on my boy with multiple different people, and then have a different guy who wants to come in that once now wants to date you, I'm gonna say, yo, bro. She's known to, you know what I'm saying? And if you just now hey, if you just if you tell me, yo, yo, we're doing our own thing, she does what she do, I do what I do, yo, bro. Whatever different structure, different folks, live your life, my boy. But don't come to me a month later or three months down the line, like, yo, bro, this chick did such and such.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:17

I'm like, yo, bro, like don't don't even don't even hit my line. Nah, I ain't gonna say that. No, no, no, no, no. It's don't hit my line. No, because I already told you. I already told don't hit my line.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:27

No, but that you can hit my line for saying that. You can vent to me, but I'm gonna tell you like yo, bro. If you sit at the table and you know the menu, and then you get mad at how the cook made the food, that is on you, my boy. So what so what you what you listening for? People want to vent, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:42

I understand that, but don't vent to me about a problem that's like that. I warned you about, bro. Nah, that's like that's like me telling you, like, yo, watch the less last step outside because it's faulty that you can trip. And then you go do it, and then you're like, oh, bro, I didn't watch out for it. Uh, and then you want to complain that you just tripped and fell, bro. I'm I don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:00

I told you. People like, oh, people like to vent, but you gotta let them vent. Like, I'm who am I to sit there and and not let listen to my boy? I'm you're my friend. I have to listen to you.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:08

That's true. And and I am someone that people hold to vent to, but bro. All right, you're right. I'm gonna let them vent, but the whole time I'm gonna be like, nah, that's two of the things.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:18

I'm I'm I'm definitely gonna in my head be like, this motherfucker don't listen. Like, I try to tell them on um something time. But this is why I say it also matters, like, yo, for some there's a reason why pretty privilege exists for men and women. Like, it's like there's a reason why, because you get away with more like we just said with J and I be like that if the juice is not worth the squeeze, they'll let you go. But I'm telling you, if she if she's an eight and she got that thing, she got a dump truck on that jump, and she that cheat through that thing, you let the drink with her fire. You feel what I'm saying? You might I don't know about the cheetah with like three or four guys, though. That's it. No, there is 100%. That's why it exists. Like there's guys who do it, you know what I mean? Saying so and I don't there's women who take the guys back too. Like there's not course, it's not mutually increasing.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:04

It's more prevalent for women to take them back. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:06

I don't know, but I I think I think there's guys though people are guys, but I'm just saying, and they definitely not telling their friends.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:12

That's that's that's another thing. They'll keep that under right, they won't tell. But I feel like a lot of like I feel like I love I know I guess they because they're saying it, but I feel like I know a lot of women that take the men back.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

I feel like at some point there's a a line has to be drawn where if I have information, like I said, as your friend, I'm obligated to tell you. Now what you do with that information, that's solely on you. But it just know, because I I would hate for it to be a situation where if my boys have intel on something, I have an intel, like my boys have information, they know something, and they don't tell me, but then it comes back to bite me, and then your my home, my my girl who have my message says, Oh, your boy knew this about me, he didn't tell you.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

Well, yeah, but but then on the flip side, it's like I gave you the answers to the test. If your boy didn't tell you, oh no, I mean if he did tell me, I mean, I guess I would feel that type of way if if she revealed it to me. That's what I'm saying. If it's really your boy's somebody like me, like me and you type shit, like it's somebody you really walk with, they don't be like, yo, bro. Oh, that's true. But but like if it's on some shit like she dated the other person and you knew, and it wasn't revealed like that, but it was just like, oh, she dated this, so how you ain't know, I'm not really gonna feel no type of way towards you. But now if she comes out like, yeah, he knew I did such and such and such, and he was like, you know, he was right there.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:25

I'd be like, damn. And Jay and tell me. That's what I'm saying. It's no burno, bro. It's no burno. All right, we're gonna shift over to our last topic on it real quick. So I was having this conversation with one of my home, my one of my homegirls, and the topic more so was how soon into a relationship do you reveal your your baggage? Your baggage could be yours. College loans is a problem, or you owe this and that, or you have legal problems, or you got a topic access to software. Like, how soon into the relationship do you reveal some information?

SPEAKER_02 1:08:00

I'm big about transparency. So, like, well, at least when it comes to surface stuff, right? So, like that kind of stuff to me is like surface. That's something that's like, you know, out in the open. So like you can easily find out about it. So I'm I'm out in the open with that. Like, you know, I'll let you know, like, right away, let you know what you're stepping your feet into if we if we're talking about relationship stuff. If we just in the talking stages, you know, I don't gotta tell you shit. But like if we in a relationship or starting a relationship, then I'm gonna definitely tell you about that kind of stuff. Like, yo, I had an ex who was a stalker. You know, the situation is better now. Yeah, I haven't seen her in a while.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:36

Once y'all official, what you mean? You're gonna wait till y'all officially tell us you got a stalker.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:41

I mean, I don't know if I want to be with her before we trying to make it official. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:45

I think it's I think like I told you. You saying talking stages, you should be. I mean, like I told my homegirl, I think it's all subjective. Like you can be situation, everything's situational. I'm gonna wait until it's convenient to now tell her because.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:56

No, I'm saying everything's situational. Not saying that I would be opposed to tell her before we got into a relationship, but I'm just saying, like, I ideally it would be around there because like if we just talking like casually going out on dates, like why I'm gonna tell you about a stalker unless it's something that could come back and hurt you right away. Like if it's different if she's still stalking me, because then I gotta let you know to let you know, like, yo, you gotta watch out. There's just a chance, like she, you know, she she's crazy. She's crazy, she following me, so I know she'll follow you, you know what I'm saying? Like, or say it like that. So, so it's like a situation like that, yeah. But like when it comes to like the deeper stuff, now I'm probably not gonna tell you unless like you, you know, we gotta be in a situation where you make yourself comfortable for me to open up to you about that kind of stuff. I surface stuff though.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:39

I think it's all situational. I think some things should be said sooner than others, like, for example, you shouldn't wait to tell me when I propose to be my fiance to tell me that you're $35,000 in debt. Like, you feel what I'm saying? That's crazy. You should know that when you before you decide to get on your knee for sure. Right. So I think that I think a lot of it is subjective, and like I was telling my homegirl, I think it really depends on who you value to be with. Because if you value certain things to be more important, for example, if you don't value the person's criminal record, they could have they could have done 10 armed robbers, and you might not care. That's fine. But me on the other hand, I like to know who I'm around, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like if she has had a stalker or any form of things that I could I could find, I deem as harmful to myself, or even to herself, or if if it's either a financial problem, or if she's a stalker. Right. For example, if someone if she tells me, oh, I'm paying back my student loans, my student loans is 150,000. Yeah, well, that's a lot. That is that's a lot. And that's the that's that's not out of the ordinary to meet people who owe that much money in county. Or if she sits there and tells me, Oh, hey, I'm having problems with your ex. I have a he's a stalker, I'm out the door. Or if you tell me, oh, I'm having what people love to come to me for, because they they know what I do for them. Yo, I'm having this legal problem. What do you think I should do? Alright, I'm out the door. Wait, would you out the door immediately if she just had a stalker? Yeah, no, I'm out. Why? Because like yo, bro, people die over this shit. Like that's true. Like, there's people like and here's the thing about some people with stalkers, because some people, that same trait that you found to be sexy is what lead to them being a salty. You feel what I'm saying? Like that same, oh, he does this, he oh, she does that, she's so crazy. I love it. That same thing, they continue to just push the envelope. Oh no, don't be wrong, there's some people are just that. That's just yeah, they just born like that. They go and start. But there's some people that can change, or you bread from them or whatever the case, and it just leads to it just builds up. Now you tell me someone's like legit documented, like like legit stalking you. I'm out the door because yo, bo, like he could be around the corner when we go out, and you like there's no like you feel what I'm saying? That's like that's why when I tell people like some tools be like, yo, I'm messing with this chick, she's married, I'm like, yo, bo, you're an idiot. Yeah, like bo, you're gonna, you're gonna be, you're gonna, she's you know, we'll be and we'll be in her crib too. I'm like, yo, bo, you're an idiot. Like people die over this shit for a reason. Like you will come home, he will see you in it in your drawers on his bed, and he's probably paying the rent or paying the mortgage, doing this and that, and she thinks shit's sweet in your cook.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:29

And everybody don't got the restraint to be like, oh, okay, this is what y'all are doing.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:33

All right, let me just walk out the door, just packing shit in the case. The reason why it's called crime of passion, though. You know what I'm saying? So I think it, I think it, I think I think we gotta value transparency. But I think sometimes transparency also does go out the door because people say or not say people have the fear of losing this person, yeah, losing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:47

And that's a that that's like a fair thing to say, like you know what I'm saying? Because like, look at what you said. If she just had a stalker, you'd be gone. Like to me, I don't think I'll be like immediately gone, but like I need to know like what's up with the stalking. When's the last time they did this? When's the last time they did it?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:03

How do you really know that? But there's no like like there's some things like a stalker. You I mean, but typically you found out they were stalking me last week, but I he didn't stalk with the last two days.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:12

Bitch, how do you know it's not just right now? But it's not really the last two days, but it's just like like stalkers in general, like, like there's like obviously there's some stalkers that take it past stalking. So I'm not talking about that, but I'm just saying, like, sometimes it's just like a stalker, like like she agreed to go on a date with him, it didn't work out, she wants to cut him off, but now he's just doing too much to try to still run into her and stuff like that. So if it's situations like that, a lot of the times once it's like really excommunicado, like they don't have no communication with you, eventually they start to phase on because they go find somebody else to stalk, or they find like something else to keep them occupied. So, like, I've no I know women that have gone through that, or like, you know, through my profession, I've worked with women that have gone through that. So I know that there are phases where that does just fade away eventually. So I'm not gonna just completely write her off if she got a stalker, but it is gonna make me like, yo, what's up? I gotta carry that thing with me.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:13

I'm off the door, but I can't I can't deal with the stress on my mentor. But as you think as we start to wrap things up, bro, let you get your final thoughts off. We're looking forward to this week.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:24

Um, I'm I I would say I'm looking forward to um there's there's a lot of like April is a just a great month for TV shows. A lot of things is getting released this month. It's like the start really of spring, because this is the real start to spring. Uh my birthday's coming up in April, so you know it's just it's uh it's really good for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:45

Just for the record, you said the same thing last week, but I'm just it don't matter, it's always the same energy during this time. I'm gonna let it go. I'm gonna let it rip. Um, nah, I think it's dope because spring break is the second form of spring break is out in Britney. Uh, you worked with teachers before Britney and Jordan. Brittany, bitch. I'ma just say, bro, I got some teachers on close friends. They out there in the streets being doing real crazy things because like I said, the teachers and nurses are unloyal, unloyal professions out here going crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:15

Let the teachers and nurses pop that. Wait, but one thing before we go, what did you think about the um season finale of it?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:23

But uh, yeah, that's about it. This week's supposed to be brightening up for us. I think I think we did well. I think we did back to back. I think we did uh Kobe and uh Shaq Jones episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:32

Okay, Kobe and Shaq, LeBron Wade. I I'm really LeBron. Don't listen to this guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:37

Um anybody paints their nails on the show. Let me give my voice. You gotta take one of you, wait. Um, I would never paint my nails. Don't listen to this guy. But yeah, I'm really LeBron. All right, y'all. That's our show for the week. Thanks for joining us. Hey, remember to like and subscribe to the pod. We'll be back next week, guys. Thanks for tapping in.