Get Your Mans

Welcome back to another chaotic, hilarious, and deeply honest episode! This week, we are diving into everything from our Iceman review to relationship boundaries and city living expenses to pop culture rumors and the ultimate debate on "sassy" male jobs. Be sure to like and subscribe to the pod and follow us across all social media platforms. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:27

All right, y'all. So I got a question for y'all. Alright? Be honest. If a woman invites another woman inside the bedroom with her man, is that inviting her man to cheat? See or no?

SPEAKER_04 0:40

Not to see or no.

SPEAKER_05 0:44

That was crazy. Hell yeah. Like, what are you talking about right now?

SPEAKER_00 0:49

See. See. I'm gonna be honest with you. That's just an agreement for real, for real. Alright, y'all. Welcome back to the boys will be boys and her pa. What it is, what's up? How y'all doing?

SPEAKER_05 1:17

Why do you look like that?

SPEAKER_00 1:45

I like the chick. Let's start off with Jay this week. We don't need nothing else.

SPEAKER_04 1:49

But orange and blue skies. Fresh off the Mother's Day massacre. We had technical difficulties last week, y'all. We apologize. But we're back in this gym. We'll get to Iceman. We know it's Iceman season. We'll get there, but how about them next, Brit? You're in the chat talking crazy. How about them next, bro?

SPEAKER_05 2:01

I was you know what's crazy. How about them next, Britt? I'm proud of them. I am proud of them. Let's fire James Harden. But I am proud of them. Why is James Harden?

SPEAKER_00 2:12

You ain't say nothing about Coco, man. Nah, not Coco.

SPEAKER_04 2:14

Not Coco. You know where Coco is not from. You know where he's not from? He's from New York, actually. It's Brutman in here tonight. I got I got I got a move in the clip. Like Drake said me on comments with me on stage. I got a move in the clip. I got a move. I'm gonna get my shit off. Can I get my shit off?

SPEAKER_03 2:58

I gotta get my shit off. What are we doing? Come on, Jake. What the fuck in the up, man?

SPEAKER_00 3:29

So yeah, we could. Great. I guess how are you doing? We we know how Jay doing. How you doing?

SPEAKER_05 3:34

I'm I'm not as good as Jay, but I'm good. Like I had a good week. You know, I did actually watch the game, one game, and then once I You was trolling.

SPEAKER_04 3:43

You wasn't watching the game. You was trolling, nigga. You was trolling. She tried to give me off my square. She thought it was cooked. She thought it was. She tried to give me off my square.

SPEAKER_05 3:52

I thought I, you know.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

I'm gonna be honest with you. That New York energy, something damn.

SPEAKER_05 3:56

They go front. The New York energy was a square. I'm not a nictator. I'm just not a Knicks fan.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

I'm not a Knicks fan either, but that energy that's gonna be. Energy.

SPEAKER_05 4:08

I was in the city last night.

SPEAKER_04 4:10

We're good. Look, energy vibes are just different when you ain't down there. And but you did try to keep us down, but it's energy almost as good as that iceman.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Energy. Oh, it's gonna be up so gay.

SPEAKER_04 4:24

I got one more for you, though.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

I got one more. New York.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

Your neck broke face crack lady. And hold on, bro, because I gotta say for the haters, the tweeters, the non-believers, as your boy Drizzy was saying. I'm getting tired of the niggas that's talking about, yo, act like y'all been here before. You got Jordan sitting in memes about, yo, the job's not finished yet. Nigga, we not the Lakers, nigga. We not a champion franchise. We not a champion franchise. We're not the Celtics, we not the Lakers, we not the Spurs, we not none of these historic franchises that come from winning championships. You know when the last time we won, Britt? I don't think your father was born. Last time next time was 1973, bro. My father was actually born. Like, what are we talking about?

SPEAKER_00 5:28

They go over the streets, bro. He probably was a young man.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

Niggas is crazy, bro. Niggas talking about yo act like y'all been before. Nigga, we haven't. We here for the first time. What are y'all talking about, bro?

SPEAKER_05 5:47

Crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_04 5:48

Yo, act like y'all been here before, blah, blah. This is why I don't like Nick fans. I fuck you, don't like us, nigga. We on the TV now though. You got niggas talking about, you know, my team won five years ago. My team did this. Oh, wow. Like that's like niggas who get a bad bitch from seven years ago and they still talk about they had the bad bitch. I'm not gonna lie. It don't matter, we here now.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

You went from how is your week, Jay? Because it had to get off my chest, bro, to like yo, he takes it. I'm good.

SPEAKER_04 6:11

Like, I'm ready to pie, bro. I'm been ready, bro. You see the energy I'm on. I'm good, bro. I'm ready to have a good show. 100%. What are we starting with? Let's get into it. I mean, we know we're starting with Jordan. Go ahead, you got your costume on, bro. Is it a costume?

SPEAKER_00 6:27

I'm just saying. Big six energy in here, Iceman energy. It's a little cold in here, too. I ain't gonna lie. You feel it? No. You don't think it's cold? No. Cap, you said it earlier. It's cold in here. You don't really know the iceman. She didn't say it earlier. She actually did before you came in. So it's Ooh, the energy is here. You know what? I like the Iceman energy, but we're gonna switch it out.

SPEAKER_04 6:56

I had all the energy and he just went to straight silence. You see how they just distract me?

SPEAKER_05 7:00

What just happened?

SPEAKER_04 7:01

Oh, this nigga.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Yo, this nigga is annoying.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Did you know he's ready to pie? Let's get it. We ready to pie. You already know. When you speak on the goats, when you speak on the goats, you better come correct. You already know what it is when you speak on the goats, gang.

SPEAKER_04 7:33

Oh shit, that was funny, but that was a good one. Yo, bro, you want to start? How am I starting now?

SPEAKER_05 7:38

It's energy today. I'm about to walk off today.

SPEAKER_04 7:40

If you want you here, like you gotta be in character.

SPEAKER_05 7:43

Not a character.

SPEAKER_04 7:43

This is like I'm a diehard nick fan. This is you. This is me. Like, I ain't no faking. I don't know you. So you're saying this ain't me?

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Nah, it's you.

SPEAKER_04 7:50

I mean, all right. I'm just saying you know. As y'all know, Iceman released. Um, we'll go down the line. I'm no, I'm throwing in the chat as the Drake hater, but I'm gonna give a fair review, Brit. Are you gonna give a fair review? Because you remember two weeks ago, I was excited. I was playing Underground Kings. You was you was I not joined, was I not excited? It wasn't it wasn't performative. Was I not excited? See you or no. See what nigga answer the question. I hate niggas.

SPEAKER_05 8:22

Anyway. You were excited. I can agree with you.

SPEAKER_04 8:25

You were excited. I'll give my full review of how I feel about the pod. I mean about the album. I mean, the other two tapes I was not a fan of. Um Iceman, I think out of one out of ten, I think it's a seven. It's alright. It's it's it hasn't grown on me like some people thought it would. I think the uh I think that the bottom like six, seven songs I could like go without. Um I think a lot of songs, I think a lot of it was him, a lot of it was some reflecting, then it was some of the gimmicky Drake, but I do think the old Drake that we knew is dead. Like I think he made that very clear on this album where he had the new sound with Janice and Shabang. That's like a new sound of Drake that I want to experiment on because I think he's gonna continue on with that type of flow of sonically sound. But I do think that's where he's trying to pivot, which is cool, but it's cool for me not to be a fan of it. Like it is not, it don't hit with me. Um, I think the intro, like I told him in the chat, I think the intro was uh one of his best intros on the album in a long time. Um I think Whisper My Name is Fire, I think National Treasure is fire. I think there are some songs where he's giving you the bars, and then somewhere it's like eh, I could like go without it. I do think overall he uh we'll get into mental health later, but I do think overall you can't deny that this beef took a toll on him because he's he he put it on the album. He he didn't deny it. Like you could tell his ass whooping from he that he took, it affected me. There's nothing wrong with that, and that's why I want Drake fans, like sometimes some of them don't understand it. Oh no, he don't give a fuck about Kendrick. But he tried to adopt some of the same songs that Kendrick had to see he could do it, and then you that's it took it in, and it's okay. Like it's I think it's also the one thing I never took away from Drake and any arguments I ever had with the Drake stanzes, I'm my favorite rapper is Drake Cole. I don't I never denied that. Allegedly, but I did say repeatedly he cannot be in the kitchen with Kendrick and Drake anymore because you you you you threw in the towel. And the biggest thing I always gave to Drake was he, I'm like that's like if I'm with my boys. If I'm with my if I'm with Jordan and dude's talking crazy and Jordan fights and gets his ass whooped, we might clown you, but at least you fought. You fought. And I never took that away from Drake like ever. Like I never always gave him. That's why I also call him a goat of our generation because when it was time to fight, even though I thought you lost to Pusher and you lost to K Dot, you didn't lose to Meek Mill, you know, and you and you and you fought. Like you have no problem with getting in the ring, which is as a hip-hop fan that I am, who cares for the lyrics and stuff, I I give him that credit all the time. And so when you're now going back to the album, there were some songs again, like Dust, like Little Birdie, where he's trying to do these different things, and people are saying Birdie is like the Kodak, like he's trying to sound like whatever the case may be. I just wasn't a fan of it. Okay. Like there's no replay value in it for me. So nothing's on your playlist, like nothing was saved on your playlist. No, there's songs that I have on my playlist, but they're not they won't be like in like the similar to the the J. Cole album. There's nothing that's still heavy in rotation now from the J. Cole album. Okay. And we're uh I think I could agree with that. Three to four months removed. Like if it comes on, like, oh, okay, like it's cool. Like in a perfect example, like I was watching New York City, I was watching my Knicks. I was in Dykeman this past weekend. Shallow Dyke. I might have heard one Drake song from the new album. That's not even shade. The DJs what they wasn't playing it.

SPEAKER_05 11:34

Well, I mean, it's brand new. That's not true. I've been to clubs indictment.

SPEAKER_04 11:39

I don't know, but I'm not talking about the Spanish clubs. I'm talking, no, there's back clubs indictment.

unknown 11:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:44

And so this is what I'm saying. And then as a real now, the weeks has it's been a week since the album, you have seen the uh slowly decline and people who are slowly playing the song. And the fans will always listen to it. And I never declined to him not saying he's not gonna go number one. I never not said he wasn't. I never said he wasn't gonna sell. My counter-argument to him selling is well, Kendrick could sell. Or not I mean I'm not even making this a Kendrick and Drake, because it's really not not for me. For the fans, it is because it's been so long and they waited so long, they had to get like, oh, this is our time to shine. Which is true. Y'all waited two years for this. So it's true. Like, y'all, y'all desperately needed it. I I could care less.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

They desperately needed it.

SPEAKER_04 12:21

They need they need to pull up the fight. I didn't. Because I still know well, regardless of where this album stands in history, you can't tell rap without Drake. Like, he he is the pant, he is the one of one. He like I've never not given him his flowers in that. Now, do I think this is one of his best albums ever? No. But to some Drake fans, they might end there yo to each his own. If that's what you think, you like it, I love it, bro.

SPEAKER_05 12:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

Great.

SPEAKER_05 12:45

Um, so I was excited for this because I like I said before, I like to see when Drake come back and you know, he do his thing. Um, I think me, my standpoint, um I I don't have like favorites or songs that could stay on my playlist. However, you know, me and Joel took a nice little drive this morning.

SPEAKER_00 13:09

And um, why did we take a nice little drive this morning?

SPEAKER_05 13:11

We're not gonna get into it. We took a nice little drive early in the morning, had me out my bed and house by like eight o'clock. Um, but on that drive, you know, Joel wanted to torture me and we listened to Drake. Now, not torture, but we listened to Drake, and he actually uh broke it down for because my standpoint was I feel like the disses that he was or the shots that he gave, I feel like he didn't go hard enough or whatever. And you know, and I'll be honest, that was coming from a standpoint of me not really knowing all the beefs, me not knowing like the back, you know, story and things like that. So when he broke it down, I did look at it like, oh okay, he's mad clever, like that's creative, which I already knew, but it was like I didn't listen to the album twice, right? I just listened once and I got my answers off my opinion off of me listening once or whatever. That's kind of crazy, but go ahead. I didn't I mean I don't, I'm not like um I don't heard this album at least five times. Now my reviews you listened five times?

SPEAKER_04 14:12

I've gave it every chance. I've heard it on my phone, in the car, in the gym, in those like settings.

SPEAKER_05 14:21

Yeah, just like, but I'm not someone who's going to listen to Drake. Oh, that's fine. That's fine, that's fine. So off of, like, granted, like I told Joel, like there are some songs that because I hear it on TikTok, I'm like, hey, this is, but it's not something that would be on my playlist or whatever. Like it's it's catchy for that 60 seconds on TikTok or whatever, like that. Um, however, like I'm not a Drake, you know, hater or whatever. I like Drake songs, or whatever the case may be. I just um Joel gave me an eye-opener to like how clever he is and like really what shots he was throwing and what he was saying or whatever like that. And I was like, oh, okay, that's dope. But even after that, would I still put a couple of songs on my playlist? Probably not, or whatever, but I do see why Joel goes hard the way he goes for Drake. Do I think that this album is overrated? I wouldn't say overrated, but I would say this is one album where like usually when Drake comes back, like nobody really has anything bad to say. And I think with these three albums, like people are really like saying, like, eh, like you have people on different sides, like, eh, and then you have some people like nah, y'all bugging, like this is what it is, or whatever. Like how we are right now. Like, me and you, well, you're more like, you know, you just is you listened five times. I say you could count me out because I only listened once. Well, I guess you could count today as twice or whatever. And um, I'm still like, I don't have anything that really I have catchy parts where I may sing along because I know it and it's catchy, but it's nothing where I'm like bumping to. Like, we played, what was the Drake old song we played in the song um in the car after we listened to the album? It was an old nah. I think it was Drake and Rihanna. Some but you see too good, too. Oh, it was too good. Okay. So we was I was bumping along to that and stuff like that. Like that was something that's still on my playlist. Like, I'm singing, I know the words, but I don't think there's anything or for these three albums that um, you know, that's would stay on my playlist. Even like the sexy red people think that's a catchy song. Like, I mean, I agree with Joel, the best friend song he got out. Like, that's definitely gonna bump. Where my besties at? That's definitely gonna bump for TikTok and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 16:25

I've firm believer, and I said this before numerous times, that we went from the features with Alicia Keys and Janet Echo to getting features with sexy red. And that's not shade on her, but it's just the like I just that this is where my slight with him comes, and it's like the evolution of you're getting older. So it's like some artists we want to see you collab with. Like it's the collab with Alicia Keys on Fire is one of the greatest collabs ever. And he's even touched on that in this album where he talked about he finally talked about aging, and he was describing I'm getting older, and one of those greatest lines on when he talked about uh fireworks, and he's like, Oh, who wants to be 30 and alone, or something like that. He referenced. So he did make those references here slightly on this album, but it goes to show, and man, this is like I said, this is at the end of this is just my opinion. This is why how I feel how I feel about him. But there's the I fact too many times he chases the trends or chases the younger crowd where you don't have to do that, but you are you you are the staple of the generation. And again, this is just my opinion, but this is why I feel some of the collabs to me just didn't hit the way people wanted them to hit, but we'll touch on that.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

Joe out. First, I would like to say, the boy don't trace chase no trends. He is the trend. He is the trend. When he makes music, most of the time, it's gonna be a sound that it's not gonna hit you right away, but eventually you're gonna pick on and you you you're gonna be like, damn. People ain't like honestly, never mind, initially. Now massive and all the hits from there go crazy. The thing is, you can't expect for somebody to work on a project for two years, one year, even even six months, and for people to try to dissect it with one listen, two listen, three listen, four listen, five lessons, 24 hours, because you're not gonna be able to grasp everything the person is trying to put down. And Drake is he is one of those people that's very meticulous, right? So everything that he puts into let's say his art or his craft is meant for you to get an experience. So from the production to the bars, everything happens for a reason. Brit said, I was explaining some things to her in the car. We had a conversation about the whole Pharrell thing, about how on Whisper My Name, that the beat itself is a troll to Pharrell because it's his staple where he does like the the four beat drops before you actually get into the song. So from that standpoint, like I said, everything everything was given to you for a reason. Yes, he needed three albums to get out of his contract, yes, he he probably didn't give you the full attention you needed on the other two projects like he did on Iceman. But with Drake, it's a catch 22 because if he would have just gave you the 17 songs on Iceman, then you would be like, oh damn, he's not rapping enough. Oh damn, it's not enough RB. Damn, it's not enough dance hall, it's not enough innovation that we usually see from Drake. So what did he do? He gave you three separate albums where he gave you the rap stuff that everybody was dying and said that they wanted from him, and he gave you the RB side with like songs like classic that all the women going crazy for right now. You you got the Maid of Honor, it got some RB, it got some dancehole. So he's given everybody a sample. Well, not even a sample, he's giving everybody a full digestion of what they asked for when it came to him. On Iceman in general, we can speak about that. Bar heavy. He's giving the people bars. He people wanna say, oh yeah, the beef is over. Everybody who's saying the beef is over, they didn't mind when Kendrick dragged that shit for over a year. They want to say, oh, he didn't want he didn't have a rollout for GNX. The whole him dragging all of that shit out was his rollout. He performed at the Super Bowl. That counts as a rollout. No, it doesn't go. Yes, it does. The Super Bowl is literally, is literally a presentation of your music. Everyone that performs at the Super Bowl has a major boost to their numbers after the Super Bowl. You're rolling out some of the music that you have for your next album.

SPEAKER_04 20:58

That's not true. Benito didn't play no new songs. Benito didn't, but who did? Neither did Rihanna. Kendrick did. Oh, that's one person. Oh, yeah. So the song.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

So what I'm saying to you is if he played new songs, that would be considered part of his rollout. He's rolling out new material.

SPEAKER_04 21:14

He didn't play new material.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:17

What new song did he perform in the Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_00 21:19

It's alright. It's alright. You want to talk. Jalen talked about numbers, right? Britt, I got something for you, right? A big part of numbers, right, would be radio play. A lot of numbers come from radio play, correct? Alright. A majority of big artists, you would say they do about 60, like especially if it's like a hit song, they do about 60, or let's not even say 60. 50 to like 75, 80% of airplay. Right? If it's a big song. And I got charts for you, so him shaking his head, I can read the charts all for you. Kalani folded, you would call that a big hit, right? Still, too, this last week when Iceman dropped. 60% airplay. Right? Which means that they're still pushing that song. What would you say if you had to s if you had to take a guess, a number, what would you say that any of Drake's songs had airplay-wise? If you just had to take any guess?

SPEAKER_05 22:21

Off of me listening to the radio?

SPEAKER_00 22:23

No, no, not just off you listening to the radio. Just Drake who he is, what would you say? If Kalani is getting 60% for folded, a song that, you know, is not even a new release, what would you say?

SPEAKER_05 22:36

Um, he would be either up there with Kalani or a little bit past Kalani.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Typically, right? That that's how it typically works for Drake. You'll hear him radio play, all of that. What would you say, Jay? If you had to take a percentage, guess.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

I couldn't tell you, I would say more than Kalani, but we knew like we No, no, but I'm just saying, if you had to take a guess of a number.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

80%. 80%. Airplay, right? Which would be a big part of him generating numbers, correct? Sure. Now, what if I told you that none of his songs did over 2.5%? Airplay. Airplay. Like on the radio. Accurate. Most of the songs on there, 1% or 0%. So you're trying to rewrite history, which you're talking about. I'm not rewriting history. What you're doing? I'm not rewriting history. I'm I'm telling you the facts. Right? So a big part of your numbers come from radio play, airplay. Right. But what does it have to do with the album?

SPEAKER_04 23:28

I'm telling you about the numbers. The numbers don't matter. Numbers matter to you, not to me. You spoke about numbers. Okay. I'll put it to you this way. Is this the album of the year for you? I would say yes. Okay. That's not what you said at Wally's House. Before you said it was Don Tolliver. But okay, I digress. I said before multiple times, this is not the album of the year for me. And that's fine.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

That's fine. That's fine.

SPEAKER_04 23:49

But let me tell you why numbers don't matter to me. I said numerous times.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Why did you speak about numbers?

SPEAKER_04 23:53

Literally less than five minutes ago. Because I was saying that he's always going to do numbers, regardless of the.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

No, but but you said, but he you mentioned Kendrick about his numbers, saying, like, oh, people saying that he ain't going to do numbers because this and that. Because you tried to use it as something to down.

SPEAKER_04 24:07

No, I'm not, because I'm going to get to my point. Where to me, I said numerous times, Wale had an album of the year for me. Wale is not top 15 in album sales. And Wale gets no radar airplay except one song. And I still don't Wale.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

That one song is more than 1%.

SPEAKER_04 24:20

It's not, because you hardly hear it. I didn't just not start hearing Wale's song on the radio till probably the song of Leon Thomas, probably till last month. And this album came out in December. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't care what no more.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

And what song did you hear from Iceman on the radio?

SPEAKER_04 24:33

Bro, I come in here. I heard Jenny's whatever the fuck that shit is called. Left and right.

SPEAKER_05 24:38

I haven't I honestly haven't heard Drake on the radio yet.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

I've heard that. And then last night, shout out to Crystal. I was working with Crystal yesterday. She was trying to put me on to uh the Cheetah Print song. Oh, with ever fucked. There was things that have. Yeah, Funk Flex was dropping bombs now left and right. Yeah, like come on, bro. Okay. And I'm listening, I'm in a I'm in a car all day at work, so I hear music.

SPEAKER_05 24:56

I haven't heard that's why I said it like that. You ready?

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Janice, shut the F up, 1%. Ran to Atlanta, 2%. Whisper my name. The song that you said was your favorite. Also, I did state that that was my favorite too. 0%. Shabang, 1%.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

That's bro. What does it have to do with how good the album is?

SPEAKER_05 25:18

Wait, but you're saying numbers because you feel like he called out Kendrick numbers? Which I wasn't. I was referring to.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

You said Drake is going to do numbers, and then you tried to do a slight when you talked about Kendrick and his numbers. So what I'm saying to you is that even if you want to take numbers into account, his numbers is not where they're supposed to be because he's not getting that airplay.

SPEAKER_04 25:41

I don't want to put numbers into account. I'm talking about my overall point was the songs in the project. And when I mention numbers, if Wale has my favorite album, I don't care about numbers. Because Wale is not a good one. Why mention why mentioned it? Because with Drake, with Drake, the overall consensus always is he's gonna go number one no matter what. And what did he do? Go over one number one no matter what. I never mentioned radio or air spins or spins on the radio because I don't care for that. That's not a metric I truly care about.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

But but what I'm saying is if you already had the notion that he's gonna do numbers, why mention his numbers and then mention someone's else's numbers while you're like if they if they're listening, right? When you had your points, a couple times you didn't have to, but you chose to use certain words to try to put down, or you use certain things to put down.

SPEAKER_04 26:27

Oh because how did I do that? I I gave my overall feeling of the album. I said how I felt.

SPEAKER_05 26:31

Okay, yeah, you said you didn't like it, but you had some songs in there that you can.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

That's exactly yeah, but it's not even just that. It's like the comments on the side.

SPEAKER_05 26:39

Okay, in the chat, you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

No, no, not in the chat.

SPEAKER_04 26:42

What comments today did I make on the side, bro? It's all right.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Wait, no, but the people gonna see it. The people gonna see it. But let me get to me.

SPEAKER_05 26:50

No, I'm talking about right now.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Right now, while we're recording, okay. Said a couple of things like that was slights.

SPEAKER_04 26:56

The only slate I said which was true was him chasing ghosts, him. Chasing ghosts. He says it on the album, bro. You see, this he acts like I'm making shit up. No, no, no. He says what he's who's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 27:08

But what I'm saying is what I'm saying is you didn't you didn't say that. You you you just uh you decided to use your microphone to say the ass whooping that he took and blah blah blah blah. I said except for PTSD, that wasn't a he's saying it, bro. No, but what I'm saying to you is instead of you just sticking to the review of how you felt on the album, that's part of your review, bro. All right. That he he's being vulnerable because it's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_04 27:31

Did he say, did he, did he say, did he say, oh, I took an ass whooping? Bro, he said that July hit something different, me. I still hasn't gotten over it. That's an ass whooping.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

If something happened two years ago and you still kicking over it, how is it that it's not having an impact on you because it fucked you up, Britt? Yeah, it has an impact, but he didn't say that he got his ass whooped. He didn't say you don't have to say it from Britt. If something hold on, if something's bothered you for two years ago, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 27:52

Is it clear it's on your mental, it is bragging you. That is an ass whooping. But I'm saying so. He's mad, he's being sensitive because I say ass whooping. I didn't say he lost.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

I didn't say sensitive. I didn't say I was being sensitive. What I'm saying to you is you chose to do that to do a put down when his whole thing was not that it impacted him because he feel like he got an ass whooping or that he lost, because he states multiple times he did not lose. He lost, bro. You can say you have your opinion, you have your opinion and say that he lost. You don't think that he lost? I didn't, I do not. Because to me, and I'm gonna break it down to you, because to me, lyrically, he was the better artist. When I look at rap battles, I look at lyrics and shit like that too. So you feel like that his moment? Yes. He just had a moment. He he was already prepared to drop a song, had a moment, and yes, everybody was singing it, dancing to it, and all that. But that doesn't weigh heavy on me because you had the bigger, the bigger hit. I'm gonna tell you. To me, I'm looking at it like I'll let you go. To me, I look at it as in the lyrics because it's a beef, it's a battle. So I want to hear what you gotta say against the other person. I don't give a fuck about you parading the fact that you're lying about someone being a beef. One song, bro. What other song do anybody talk about? That's one thing. You don't listen to nobody listens to euphoria.

SPEAKER_04 29:18

Nobody listens to me that, bro, because y'all do the same thing with say not like that's what's his biggest hit. When it wasn't, that's not the case. Y'all do the same shit. That's not his number, that's the one was not his first number one hit, bro.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

It's not his first number one hit, but it's the one that does the most number. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_04 29:32

That's also not true because they showed it on Twitter multiple times. His best song till this day is a song with scissors from the shit with James Chadwick Bozeman. Oh, yeah, so all the stars. Till this day, does has a more than a million more streams in that song. So you don't know what the hell you're talking about, bro.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

I actually look it up, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 29:50

Let you fall right there.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

You pull it up, you're gonna have to, because I'm not gonna be able to do it. You doing that saying something is facts and you're not bringing nothing to back it up.

SPEAKER_05 29:56

Actually, I can see Joe Well's standpoint. Like, I'm thinking both sides or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

That type of shit to me is like, I don't give a fuck about it, so it's not gonna have no impact on me. I'll say I'm not gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 30:15

The number one stream with over three billion streams. I'm not gonna say that you Not like this is number four, bro.

SPEAKER_00 30:20

I'm not gonna say that you Is it right now, right here? I'm not gonna say that you won a battle. I'm not gonna say that you won a battle. I'm not gonna say that you're gonna do that. Like I said, I'm not gonna say that you won the battle because you parading the fact that somebody's a P. Like you're joking about something that I feel is serious. Right? So I'm not gonna Yeah, like to me, that's never gonna be something that's oh yeah, let me dance to it. Let me like just like Jalen said that it don't have nothing for him, that's all don't have nothing for me. So my opinion on the beef is completely different. There's a lot of people that agree with me, and there's a lot of people that agree with y'all. As for as far as he lost, or there's a lot of people that agree that he won.

SPEAKER_05 31:01

I mean, I think that I'll say this, right? When you do, you hit some points, when you do think of the Drake and Kendrick beef, right? I the first song I think of is They Not Like Us. I'm not gonna lie. That is the first song I think of.

SPEAKER_04 31:14

We don't deny that, but that's not his only song.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

No, it's not his only song, it's the only song, but who, but nobody brings up anything else.

SPEAKER_04 31:20

Because once you all all people care about is the knockout punch. Nobody cares about the jab that led up to it. That's straight facts, bro.

SPEAKER_05 31:25

I agree. I could agree with that, right? I could agree with that. However, I do feel like, you know, um, because of the and I wouldn't say I wouldn't use the word rollout, but Kendrick, if we're gonna go with Kendrick at his moment, right? It was a big song. He was he performed on Super Bowl. It was a lot going on into this, right?

SPEAKER_04 31:46

But for mind you, that song was not like us, was July. The Super Bowl was the following year. That's six months. So they people are saying rollout. That's the six months. You dragged that whole thing out. It was a number one song, but you can't drag out a number one song. Well, the same way Folded is still on the charts. You can't get mad at what people consume, bro.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

But I'm not saying I'm not saying that we're mad at what people consume. But what I'm saying to you is, right? And Drake even speaks about it on this album. Like, the fact that you want to celebrate someone be like, if if it's really like a situation where somebody's a pedophile, I like I want real information on that. Because I don't I don't want this person to be in any real space. But right? I think that's a good thing. No, no, let me finish. Let me finish. I'll let you talk. Let me finish. I don't want those people in any real space. So the fact that you are making people dance and celebrate to this, like Drake said, that's a form of grooming, because you're grooming them to be accepting of the fact that people could be PDFs.

SPEAKER_04 32:46

Bro, I mean, that's that's a both sides of that's so misinformed of what you're saying. What's misinformed about it? Because academics, Drake's boy, which is cool. Drake gave him that over your o chain, which I think people call that hating shit. I thought that's uh that was great because he's been the main one that's in your corner throughout this whole thing. But when academics has common talking, yo, this 15-year-old got some nice titties, nobody comes out and say nothing. He said that on Twitter. You could pull it up. So this is what I'm saying. People pick and choose when they want to say something. Let me answer the question. Is it okay if you say a 15-year-old has nice titties? No. But academics said it. All right, but now but now Drake is being has him in his corner. So am I gonna sit there and say that Drake supports pedophiles? No, I'm not.

unknown 33:24

Bro.

SPEAKER_04 33:25

But you're getting mad over his song. Well, he it's a song. Somebody's getting mad over us. I'm not saying you, I'm saying that people see.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

What I'm saying is it's a condit, it's a conditioning and it's a programming for you to be acceptable, bro. That's all it is. At least to me. Because if you're talking about some catchy song that knocked them out, and if it was really that big of a deal, Kendra got plenty of pedophiles in his corner. I can't confirm. I don't know his corner. Dr. Drake had had a baby with a 15-year-old. Again. Jay-Z multiple times. Jay Z is not even in his corner. Okay. Jay-Z literally gave him the Super Bowl after literally.

SPEAKER_04 34:00

I mean, offered the Super Bowl and denied it. How many times was Drake offered the Super Bowl and denied it? See, this is what I'm talking about. Y'all don't say the fact Drake's been offered the Super Bowl multiple times and said he doesn't want to do it. Which is cool. All right. Don't accept it, but don't be mad if somebody else who's fighting you accepts it. You had a chance to do it.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

Name one person that released one song and ended up doing the Super Bowl. Like off of one new song. Bro, what does that have to do with anything?

SPEAKER_04 34:21

Because you can't be mad if he wants to shift the direction. He's in charge of the Super Bowl. If he wants to shift and pivot, if you're the leader, you can shift and pivot. The same way I've never heard a song like Shibang Drake do, he child he found the new sound. That's okay to pivot and find something new. You can't be mad because it's not traditional. They want to do something else. Who the fuck not changes?

SPEAKER_00 34:38

It's not traditional to talk about PDFs. Yes. Well, that makes sense. You just make sense about that. That makes sense. Because even if Jay-Z, another one, name redactor from Epstein Files, we know Foxy Brown, 15, that he was fucking with. We know Aliyah, underage he was fucking with. We know Beyonce, barely, barely of age he was fucking with. So if anybody's PDFs, it's all the people that's literally supporting and propping this man up.

SPEAKER_04 35:05

That's until Drake make a song about it, bro.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

He did. You would know that if you actually listen to the fucking album.

SPEAKER_04 35:13

No, no, no. It's not. That's what it comes down to. It did not hit like not like that's a good song, people will gravitate to.

SPEAKER_00 35:18

A punch knockout, people will gravitate to you. Talking about people who gravitate to, right? So if the numbers are number one, he's did 460 with no radio play. None of the past rappers in the past two years have done even 400. Oh, I'm lying. Travis, Travis Scott did. But none of them have done 460 and he's done it without radio play. How are people not gravitating to it? Whoa, nobody said this is he shifts the side. You just said to tell him to make a song that people gonna gravitate to. Right. So if they're listening, they're gravitating to it. Right.

SPEAKER_04 35:55

But it's not there's not gonna impact of not like us. That's my point.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

Okay. Bruh, what I'm saying to you is that that song is conditioning people to be accepting of PDFs. You could agree with me or you could not agree with me, but that's just a fact. You got little kids even joking about the shit. Like, come on. Come on. They don't even know what that's about, but they understand that, oh yeah, A minor, A minor, making a joke of something that's a serious topic. And that's never gonna be accepting. So is domestic violence, but there was no be accepting to me, and that's why I don't gravitate to that. And why I feel like Drake won the beef. That's all I was saying. She asked me why I feel that way, and that's why I feel that way. So just because you don't feel that way, doesn't mean that we have to have the same the same opinion on it. Now, if we're gonna go back to Drake in the music, like I said, a lot of people said that he played victim. You can't express yourself and where your situation that you're in right now, especially when you talk about something did impact your life. I don't think he played victim. He definitely did play victim. No, no, I'm just saying a lot of people have said that. He wasn't listening, he didn't play victim. But I feel like you good, like in order to because to start off this album, it's like different breakdowns, right? So you got like the make them pay, make them cry, all that stuff. It pretty much breaks the album down into sections. So you gotta make them cry first. That right there is to pretty much show and humanize Drake because a lot of people don't really look at like Drake as being a human. It's more so like he's a robot, he's supposed to be this, he's supposed to be that, because that's the image that you've seen him in so much.

SPEAKER_04 37:33

I'm just that's how do you make the assumptions of how people feel about him? Instead of just you, how do you feel about the album? Because you're giving us intakes on how people see him, but how do you see the album?

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Um, I'm trying to break down how I see the album and how the album was presented to people, but you won't let me finish. That's you didn't you're not saying that. So if you want to move on, we could do that. Because the thing is, I let you speak. I was quiet. I can't say it's not. You're not because the you keep yourself. You're saying, but you're saying I'm saying I'm literally telling you why Drake said what Drake break the album into. That's what you said. And then you said the people perceive him as this. That's a part of my breakdown. Like, I don't have to present something the way you want me to present it. No, but you can't also say people perceive him as this.

SPEAKER_05 38:21

What's your favorite song on the album?

SPEAKER_00 38:23

That's my favorite song on the album is Whisper My Name. But like, to me, this album is an 18 out of 18. And the reason why is because every time I listen to it, it gets better. I I understand why certain things were done. And I understand the shots that he was taking at people. If you actually look at the videos that go along with each song, it just makes things better.

SPEAKER_05 38:45

How many times do you listen? Not to cut you off, how many times do you listen to the album?

SPEAKER_00 38:48

I'm gonna be honest with you, it had to be at least over 20 times.

SPEAKER_05 38:51

Seriously? Yeah. I don't think I could listen to something that much, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

But even if it's a fave of my, like But I'm gonna be honest with you. When I do, like when I listen to albums and breakdowns and stuff like that, I gotta listen to it multiple times. Like a lot of times, because I wanna give it the like I said, I want to give it the respect that the artist is presenting it to you. Because they worked on this, they worked on this for years. He never said that about any other album, by the way. Wait. The other review we never read that.

SPEAKER_05 39:18

When J. Cole came out, I know you said that's your favorite. How many albums did you listen to?

SPEAKER_00 39:21

At least three or four. Within by that fourth listen. Three or four. You know how many times I listened to that J. Cole album? How much? Over ten times.

SPEAKER_05 39:27

Okay, so that's him as a person when an album comes out.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

Yes, but because I want to understand what the art like I also make music. So I understand what it is to like when you make music or make any art, most of the time you're your biggest critique. So sometimes you like you present something and you're wondering, like, damn, are people gonna gravitate to this? Are people gonna like this? Like, I don't even like this right now. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's plenty of times I make something and I don't like it, but I release it, and people that listen to my music is like, yo, this is amazing. Or like, shout out to my boy Sushi. I make music with him a lot, and he'll be the one that gives me the like the gratification I need. Be like, yo, this is dope, like this is fire, you did this, you did that. And that's how a lot of artists, like, that's how they are. So the fact that you put so much time and work and you're presenting it to people to like dissect and like understand. Music, music is something that you feel like you know, it's like in your soul. You know what I'm saying? So I wanna I want to connect with what I'm listening to. So I'm not just gonna be like, oh yeah, I'm gonna play it once or twice and be like, oh nah, this shit is trash. Because I don't know what the artist is trying to give me if I only give it the attention of just two listens. So that's why when stuff releases, I I'm listening multiple times. Even if I don't maybe listen to every song over, over and over, I still pick some of the songs from the album and I, you know, I'll run it through and be like, yo, I really like this one. Let me let me go back to it.

unknown 41:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 41:05

I I just I think my attention span, like, I can't.

SPEAKER_04 41:08

Most people's attention span.

SPEAKER_05 41:09

Yeah, like I can't listen to albums now. After the first time, it's like, okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 41:13

And that's the reason why now most album songs are like no more than 14 songs. Because people know attention spans are just aren't that. And now Jordan's in the minority of doing that, which is cool. If that's how you want to consume the music, cool. But then the ultimate all the thing about being an artist, which people most artists have to understand in any capacity, whether you're a painter, a sculpture, whatever, you may have the interpretation for it to be this, but you can't tell other people how they want to interpret the art. Yeah. So if I hear their music or whatever it is, and I however I consume it, the product, and I don't like it, your reaction can't be, oh, but we don't understand it. That's your job as an artist to make them do that. You can't be mad at a consumer for not liking the product. If someone doesn't like your product, no matter how much time you put in, I do film. I know my I know how much time it takes to do film. Hell, even to edit this takes a while. I understand that. But if I show it to somebody and they say, Oh, well, I don't like it, my reaction can't be, oh man, I know how much time I put in. That's just not, that's just not.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

But no one is no one is actually doing that. Like, I don't think, like, like even you saying that you don't like it, I'm not attacking you, like, oh damn, you don't like it, and blah blah blah. All I'm saying is I give stuff attention and I give it more, like I you say I give it more attention than the average person. That's why me listening to not like us, it doesn't hit me because I can't I can't listen to that. To me, that's like a pollution for my ears. And it's not that it's not like if the hook was completely different and it didn't mention anything about like him being a PDF.

SPEAKER_05 42:38

Can I ask what I would because the hook is catchy.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Okay, so if not like us was not targeted towards Drake, I would still feel exactly the same because I don't, like, I'm gonna be honest with you, I just don't agree with anything mocking that type of thing.

SPEAKER_05 42:56

Now I'm gonna ask this other question. Kanye is another one of your favorites. Okay. He says some wild, crazy stuff. And I don't listen to that, the stuff that he said, Dev product. You still like him as an artist? Yes. So do you still like Kendrick as a few?

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Yes, I I I said multiple times that I listened to Kendrick literally. If I'm listening to music that day, Kendrick comes on literally every day. And it's not like, oh yeah, fuck him, I'll skip. No. You just won't listen to that song. No, and and the thing is too, like, not only would I not listen to that song, but the way that song was presented was just so bad. Like, like, the way Apple Music works, right? I'm I'm gonna explain it to you, right? You're talking about the numbers part. No, no, no, not even the numbers. I don't give a fuck about the numbers right now. Okay, but like the way Apple Music works, right? If I'm playing my personal playlist, you would expect it to only be songs on my personal playlist. Right. But yet, not like us, it's popping up while I'm listening. I don't I don't like that. Because I I never even added the song and it's popping up on personal playlists, so it's stuff like that, and it's Just like that's what I'm saying. It's like conditioning for you to be accepting of that stuff.

SPEAKER_05 44:04

I mean, I feel like that's what I get what you're saying. I feel like that's what every song, though, like is always propaganda. Like you, you know, every that's what it is. That's the business or whatever. I'll say my final words are like, I think that just for me, like um, I like music, my type of music that I like is different. I I think y'all both make two valid points. I I could see what you're saying, like when you're passionate and you want to actually critique something, you'll listen to it. Cause I watch the visuals for the pod. Like, I'll probably watch it twice, maybe three times on a good day or whatever, like that. But after that, I think I'll be completely out of it. But um, I do watch it to critique and be like, you know, I'll be in the chat, like, y'all, this episode, blah, blah, blah, you know, to critique it. Cause this is something that, you know, I want us to build up and stuff like that. As far as the album, the way I listen to music, like, I wouldn't listen to a full album. Like, even when y'all told me you listen to Chris Brown album, and I'm over here, like, yeah, I'm going to the concert and stuff like that. And, you know, I listened to the album, but it's nothing that had me like, oh, I'm gonna listen again. Like, just because it's my favorite doesn't mean I'm gonna just sit down and listen. And that's something rare and special and you unique about you. But I do agree with that when it comes to Kendrick and Drake, it will forever be they not like us. Like, everybody's gonna say Drake took that out. You know, like for and that that's deeper than you know, whatever. But I think that's just gonna be a thing because you know, when it comes to music, when it comes to social media, people follow what's more popular.

SPEAKER_00 45:34

Yeah, it's a sheep, it's a sheep mentality.

SPEAKER_04 45:37

Even in his music, he's being vulnerable and said, You don't hear Kendra talking about, oh man, I could do this. Like he's not doing because he knows.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

Like, that's the thing. He also states that he feels he won. Oh, Kendra? No, Drake. In his music, he's saying he feels that he feels like. He's not saying that. That's what he said. He's saying it took a toll on him because you have someone who lost friends. But again, or who you thought was friends, but they're actually fake people. Right, but again. No, no, no. Let me finish.

SPEAKER_04 46:11

Well, I let you talk for the last four minutes, bro.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

Go ahead. Go ahead. Because I'm I'm I'm talking and you're cutting me off. But I let you talk for the last four minutes. What you got?

SPEAKER_04 46:19

That you you guys are saying this, and from this is how I digested what he was saying and interpreted it. But if you're saying, okay, I lost friends, all that is a part of the beef. That has nothing to do who Kendrick is making songs about. That's because the public is is pushing you away, and people in your corner aren't real friends. That has nothing to do with the rap beef. That's your circle. But he's not a big thing.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

But he's not but he's talking about what the situation that happened. He's not saying specifically the rap beef is why I feel this way. He's talking about specifically, he lost people that he thought was friends, but they're fake friends. He lost money. He's battling his. That's that's all things that took a toll on him. He's battling his his label. He gotta fight a battle that most people don't even take the the chance to even do. Except for who? Michael Jackson and Prince and stuff like that. People don't do that. People don't just battle the- People don't just battle the biggest. No, let me finish. I'll let you get yours off. You can't just talk about, like, oh, because because he because you feel like he lost the beef, that that's specifically what he's talking about. No, he's talking about as a whole, everything that's going on take a toll on him. If you lost friends, if you go on with stuff with your job, and you talk about, okay, this is something that's taking a toll on me, that would be something that's valid. It don't have to be one thing specifically because he never mentioned that that one thing took a toll on him. Right. You're assuming. And you know what they say about people who are taking an ass out of yourself.

SPEAKER_04 47:45

You were assuming earlier. You sat there and said, you assume how people perceive him. Is that not what he said? That's when I cut you off and say, No, I think.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

I didn't say, I did not say that that's that I'm assuming that people is perceiving him that way. You were saying that. I'm saying why the breakdown of the album is the way it is, because people is because this is what he is presenting. You because a lot of this album is also addressing a lot of things that are seen online or that people present to him. Like the fact that a lot of people say, oh, he's trying to play the Jewish card on this, but that's not even what he's trying to do. It was just similes to and hyperboles to go based off of what people are saying about him, where a lot of people are mocking him for being a white man. We clearly know that Drake is not white. Yes, he does have a Jew, he does have a Jewish mom, but he's not white. So how does that even work? So people all right. So this is what I'm saying. People like you, sheep, who wanna listen online, because this never was a real issue about him. Who do you consider Drake? Who do you consider him? He's a black man.

SPEAKER_05 48:54

You consider him black man, yes, he's a black man.

SPEAKER_00 48:56

Uh black? His father is black. Like he got deep southern roots. Like his father, I'm just gonna explain to you real quick. His father, his uncle, and all that, they are prominent people in soul jazz music, like very known and famous for like literally helping originate the sound of like deep soul music. Black people. So just because his mom is white, people don't give this same energy to J. Cole. They never do, actually. All right. But do you wait? Hold up. I say he's mixed.

SPEAKER_04 49:27

The same way I say Drake is mixed. I don't sit there and say they're just one thing. The same way I say I'm mixed. You say they mixed.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

You say they mix now. But before you was calling him a white man. Because he he is Is he a white man, Brit?

SPEAKER_05 49:40

I wouldn't say he's white, I would say he's mixed. Exactly. Okay, so what do you have to say about Barack Obama?

SPEAKER_00 49:44

But that's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. That is the joke that's online, especially like. But you can't be mad at jokes, bro. Like Rick Ross. No, but when Rick Ross did all of that, so now everyone's saying, oh, he's a white man, he's a white man. Oh, like there's a there's a lot of people online that was trolling him for being a white man or be like, oh, he he is the worst of the worst of what we actually want to be on top in this country because he's from a community. Right? I I can't speak on that community, but because he's from a community. So they use that to down him when everyone knows he's a black man. They don't use that same energy for J. Cole, they don't use that same energy for Klay Thompson, they don't use that same energy for Stephen Curry, they don't use that same energy for a lot of people, but they give him that energy to downplay it, and that's what he spoke on on his album.

SPEAKER_05 50:29

I just think you diehard Drake fan. Well, like, this is what I'm saying. Because when we're not saying you're wrong, but I I think you are a diehard Drake fan. Yeah, because anything that, and that would be something that, like, okay, I don't know if this correlates, but like when people, when Siava first came out, everybody was saying she a man or whatever. And now everybody loves Seattle, Rusty Wilson, everybody love, and I was always diehard Seattle. I still am a diehard Seattle fan. I'm like, yo, these are the same people. I'll be going hard. I'll be like, anybody say something about Ciava, like, oh, I love Ci Ava. I was I would I'd be quick to say, you probably was one of those that was calling her a man in the beginning, like because I love Ciava. You get what I'm saying? So I'm not taking that away from you. I think you love Drake as the person, like you see him outside of his music, and you could relate to him like you told me in the card. But I'm the same.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

No, do I say that the music is relatable? Yes. But like him as a person, I don't know him as a person. So I can't I felt like through his music, you do though. Yeah, I could relate to him. But what I'm saying, but what I'm saying to you is, but what I'm saying to you is, right? He's gonna cap for the pod right now. But this man would this man was outright calling him a white man in the chat. You want to bring up the chat? Outright call him a white man. Said he said he is not black. Said he is, you said he is not black. You said he is a white man. You see him as a white man. I got cousins, like, who half white, half Puerto Rican, and I would never look at them as not being black. So it's not just a Drake thing. It's that's just the perception of anything. But then Yeah, because I know for a fact that some places in this country, if they go to, they could be killed because they are black. You want to talk about history, a one-drop rule. It's always been one drop rule. That's why. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's always been a one-drop rule as far as like, yo, they black. They not white. So why would I ever perceive anybody that's black to be white? That's not the that's not what I'm looking at.

SPEAKER_04 52:22

Now, going back to what you said, bro, him being a diehard fan, because when he was going at Meek Mill and they was making jokes of when he was a oh playing the same song back to back while your girl was there, they was clowning Meek Mill. It was cool. But now since he's the boy of the joke, it's oh yo, y'all sheep. It's just it's just stands, bro.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

No, no, it's stands, bro. That's I mean she's saying the same thing I'm saying. No, but the sheep mentality, no, but that's because she doesn't have the clear picture. The sheep mentality I'm talking about is if you if you're just saying jokes, that's fine. But you no, but you were 100% saying he was a white man.

SPEAKER_04 52:52

I say identified as mixed.

SPEAKER_00 52:53

All right.

SPEAKER_04 52:54

That's what I said. And it's I said the same thing about J. Cole. Like I said, like I said, you could cap. You could cast.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

You could cap if you want. Well, we know the truth. Let's let's move on.

SPEAKER_05 53:02

Yeah, let's get we were talking about numbers, and Jalen, this was something me and you talked about with uh we seen online with like the 100k, if you make 100k now, that's considered now uh lower middle class. How do y'all feel about that? I had to we had to shift the energy real quick.

SPEAKER_04 53:19

Um I think this is highly accurate and goes into living in New York City with how expensive daily life is in New York City. So even yesterday I had to work with double. I might have spent like $35 on food yesterday.

SPEAKER_05 53:31

Really?

SPEAKER_04 53:32

Legit.

SPEAKER_05 53:32

But that's because the area you bought the food from, or you just I mean I work in the bronks.

SPEAKER_04 53:36

So it's just it's just the day and age of New York City. And so when you take into account the average person does not make 100k in New York City. It's just not even close. Not even close.

SPEAKER_05 53:45

I think average is what I think.

SPEAKER_04 53:48

I think last time I saw it, it was like 50,000. That's like 51, 51.5. So minimum wage. I saw it was like 47. So when you take that into account, and the there's very few people who are single with no kids. I'm not in the minority here because I'm I have a kid, but it's this is not the average the daily for most people in New York City. That's why it's all overpopular because there's so many people with kids. So take into account with that, and rent and transportation. There's no way if you make 100k here, that's that is that is lower middle class. I make more than 100k, and I still I'm not paying to pay trick, but it's still like that that you can't tell someone who makes 100k that they're comfortable in New York. It's just like especially now, and it's a conversation you've had with my dad a couple times, oh, you know, if I made this much, I'd be more comfortable. No, you won't because the New York City is just so much more expensive.

SPEAKER_05 54:41

I don't even, I don't even think that even if they said like 100k is now lower middle class, like I just feel like whenever you get to a certain, like everybody had the dream of I want to make six figures, right? Everybody had that, like I want to make six figures. And I feel like even when you have that goal, and once you, I know me for a fact, once I got to a certain pay rate, pay rate more you make, the more you spend. That, and then also it's like you're never satisfied, you're gonna want more because you've seen that, like talking about we talked about this before, um, our car payment, right? I look back, I'm like, yo, how did I pay my car note? Because the money I'm spending now, it's like, where did that money come from? Like, and I'm making more than what I had before. So it's like, how was I able to pay my car note? So I definitely feel like more money, more problems. Because you know, um it's a good Jay-Z quote too, by the way. I I know it's a Jay-Z quote. I said it for Jay. But no, um, definitely I feel like regardless of where you at in life, you always gonna want more. Like, I definitely feel that way.

SPEAKER_00 55:42

No, 100%. Because like Jay said, we over 100K on this side. But it and it's and it's not even me bragging. It's me really saying, like, yo, with the expenses that I have, especially like, yo, student loans be knocking, knocking, like, and they don't just want like $100, you know what I'm saying? So the fact that yes, we over $100K, but your expenses, like Jay said, your expenses only gonna go up. The more you make, the more you're gonna spend. Because now you're gonna be like, you know what? I could go on that vacation. Now I couldn't go on that vacation last year, but I might be able to do it this year. Or you might be able to do it.

SPEAKER_05 56:17

You're gonna want to do more things.

SPEAKER_00 56:18

Yeah, you know, especially. Especially like, you know, when you have a job like us where it's like very taxing, you know, that time that you do get off, you want to do activities because you know, you you can't just sit around and do nothing and and you working hard like that, you know. You you want to spin the coin you got, especially a lot of the times, like, you know, some of that some of the coins be blood money in a sense.

SPEAKER_06 56:39

That is true.

SPEAKER_00 56:39

So you definitely wanna, like, you know, you definitely wanna like you know, take the time to spin on yourself and stuff like that. But like Jay said, I like I'm a sing uh I'm a guy who don't have no kids. Right. So the fact that I don't have kids, it really don't change the fact of like what I'm spending because I'm just gonna find something else to spend the money on. Right. So the 100K, like you said, is is really like at this point is nothing.

SPEAKER_04 57:11

100k, just because you make 100k. That is 100k after taxes or before taxes. Like you're not woking up, you're not walking home. Like, if you have a salary that pays 100k, that means you probably make 75 after taxes.

SPEAKER_00 57:24

I wouldn't even say that. I would I would say you're in the 60s range, to be honest.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

It depends on what you're doing. I I think 70 is a close is close. It'll it all depends on your type of job because everybody gets taxed differently. That is true. That is true.

SPEAKER_05 57:35

And it depends on like who you claim and different things. Yeah, it all depends.

SPEAKER_04 57:37

Yeah, but like you average rent in New York City, I think, is like 29,000 for one barrel. That's the average rent in New York City. Or if some people pay different, all it all depends. And so then there's different things that we talk about, especially within the black community, is uh a problem that I want to say the black community usually has at times is that we try to we're too dependent sometimes on some services. And so for example, if we get a fixed income apartment, we want to keep it like that forever. And I've had friends who be like, oh, I can't take this job because if I take this job, my rent's gonna go away. You know what I'm saying? So these and these are things so and there's some so there's some opportunities that we do have that we don't take because we're fearful of not losing the security. Survival defenders. Yeah, no, 100%. But I do think there are times, oftentimes, where if you take into account a daily person who doesn't have to lose you from working from home if you work from home, you are kind of in a different situation if you make a hundred K working from home, just for the simple sense of that you don't gotta travel travel. You don't gotta travel. Now, yes, your electricity bill will go up, this is true, but it's not gonna take the same hit as opposed to traveling to work, having to pay buy food. If you're working from home, you're kind of just somewhat in a better sense. But then again, it also depends on where you sp what apartment did you choose to live in, which is majority of the people half of their pay their salary goes to their rent or more. Like that's debatable because. I mean, that's because you're from home, so you feel touched.

SPEAKER_05 58:57

You feel tax debatable. No, because I work from home, but I don't really be home. I take my laptop and I be out. So that's different.

SPEAKER_04 59:05

I've I've had people work from home, they just they they stay home. It all depends.

SPEAKER_05 59:08

Yeah, like it depends, but I definitely agree with what you're saying. If you work from home and you stay home, you got the TV running, you got the lights, so you got your computer, you know, your laptop charged up, you probably eating more because you're sitting at that desk all day. So I do agree with that, but that's the main reason why I get out the house and I'll be like, okay, I don't want to. Or I have like I live in one of the not a luxury building, but one of the buildings that have like a computer room and different things like that. So you got more money than me. No, I don't, please. But my building has its own Wi-Fi. So I don't, I could I damn sure don't got that. I could go downstairs and use the building Wi-Fi and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 59:45

I also feel like it's like a nesting issue as well. Just because like we speak on the black community, um, a lot of the times it's kind of like a rush to either like you know, go get your own apartment or like rush to get your kids to pay rent, help pay rent and all that stuff because it's just looked at a little bit different. Whereas in like I know people who fucking 35, 35, 35, yeah, yeah, yeah. 35 years old. Like, like I knew this one girl who like she had a little bit less time than me when she but she had a full job paying her like $60,000 a year. And when we went out places, she never had to spend her own money because her parents was like, your money you make from your $60,000 job, you save that, and they're paying for her gas when we go out, they're paying for her drinks, her food. She had brothers that would give her money as well. So she's not paying for nothing outside. Like that that just don't happen in our community. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:46

Well, no, there are some rare, it's rare, but there are some blacks that I do know have it like that where they're still living with their parents. Their parents are, and actually, I actually know a guy that's like that, still living with his parents. He makes a good enough money, but his parents still give that type and shout outs to them.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:04

Because they they was paying for her car note, everything. Like she literally.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:06

I don't know how much details, but I do know, like, they give them, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:10

I think I would draw the line of paying for my daughter's car note.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:13

I think that it's a disservice, how we talked about before.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:15

Like, I mean, I don't think I don't think it's even a disservice, though. No, but the reason why I'm gonna say it's not a disservice and why you look at it is because you look at it as far as like, I need to be independent because eventually I'm gonna leave the womb and do this. But a car is not a need, but it's not. But what I'm saying is the way the way her parents is looking at it is if we do all of this stuff for her now, while we can, she can set herself up to create more generational deals.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:43

I don't think she set not that person in particular, but the people, now I don't want to air her out, right? But the people that do have these lucky, you know, moments or parents. I don't want to say lucky, they just it's not but not black. Yeah, but people like to shit on people who got good parents. It's not my fault. No, no, no, no, no. I don't think, I don't, I don't think that they don't have good parents. I'm not hating on it or not, or anything. I do still feel like it's like a disservice, right? Because the reason why I'm saying that is because you're saying like her parents' mindset is like, I'm gonna take care of you while you set yourself for God forbid, if something happens to us, you'll be set.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:17

A lot of times, not really for like, so like God forbid something happened to us, you'll be set. But when you actually are ready to leave the house, you have Yeah, so it's not necessarily like we gonna set you up just in case something happens to us, and that's what it is. It's more so so when you actually able to leave the nest, like when you're ready to leave the nest, you got C money to do stuff like let's say you needed to buy a house, you got the money saved to go buy a house, buy property, you got the money saved to go on a business venture if you needed to. So that's the difference. And like sometimes where I feel like as in like some people in the black community be so quick to just like push the kid out before the kid is actually ready to really do these type of things. Whereas in like, you know, like I'm not gonna lie and say that I was like pushed out or kicked out. So but I was able to like not really experience some of the stuff that other people that I knew was growing up and experiencing. Because it was just like, yo, since 18, 19, it was just like yo, you out the house or this or that. Not saying that I didn't pay rent, because I did, but also it wasn't one of those things where like you know, I was being forced to leave.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:35

Well, what I was saying to go back to what you were saying, like um, these parents that blessed their children, I was just saying, like, I feel like a lot of times, and there may be times where people are actually saving, but a lot of times these children are like being reckless because they know that their parents always is gonna have yeah, and that's why I was saying it could be a disservice because yeah, you're thinking your child is saving and set up and things like that, but you never know what can happen. We done had what happened today. You get what I'm saying? You never know what can happen. So happened today. I'm confused. As far as the pod, as filming the pod. We came all the way to you.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:10

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:11

But uh I'm using that as an example, like anything can happen at any moment, right? And I think I call it a disservice, and I think it has to do with what Joel saying as so at what age, but don't age would you cut your child off? Um, I wouldn't ever cut your office.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:27

That might be the long term, but at what age would you have the conversation where okay, maybe you should consider moving out? Because the comment is only gonna get worse.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:35

That is true, right? Um what's crazy? So I live with my mom, right? And my mom never had that conversation with me. It was more of I wanted to do it. Like Which is fine. Like I understand, but that's the answer. I think I would be more like my mom. Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't enable it.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:50

So at 30 years old, you won't say when you're moving out?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:52

I just moved out last year. No, no, I say nothing wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:54

I'm just I moved out at 29. I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. I think it all depends on we all locate. Yeah, I think it all I think it all depends on the.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:01

And what I'm saying to you is like my mom is very nonchalant, but she didn't enable me. Like, she knew that I've been working since I was 14 years old. Like, I started with Summer Youth, and the Summer Youth job actually hired me, and I I just kept working, I was working three and four jobs. But it wasn't because I had to, because my mom was working, you know, my dad, they was giving me money. However, it was because I had some extra expenses that I wanted that I knew if I'd be like, hey, can I get money for this? And I spent it, it was like, we just gave you, I didn't want to hear that. So I went and I did what I needed to do for myself because I like expensive things. I like to do quick. You heard me and Yolanda. We take a trip to Marvel if we can, you know? So I want to be able to do certain things. So to answer your question, I don't think I would kick my child out or give that talk, but I would teach my child that, you know, if you because living with my mother, I paid rent. I helped, and aside from paying rent, I gave her extra money if we don't got some toilet tissue, we don't got paper towel, we we need food. So it wasn't like now that I'm on my own, I have that budget where I'm like. Okay, I wasn't paying my mother this much rent, but I know that okay, this is for rent, this is for household essentials, this is for food. I gotta survive on my own. You know, like and I don't like to ask my parents for something.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:11

Like, like I mean, so let's see, that's the thing because here's the that's where the fork means to go. You know, like a and I'm not trying to come at you, I'm just saying it's so hyper-independent that you feel like asking for them is like a burden or it's like a sh a shot, as opposed to if you're growing up the whole time and you know your parents have you, it's okay to have those conversations. I think to be there's no right or wrong way to raise a child when you talk about having them leave the nest or as opposed to having say having them stay. I think that when it all depends on the makeup of the type of parenting that you're doing. Because it could come out either way. Like you can, and at the end of the day, you could still raise the kid the right way. Like I know plenty of people who they're they have siblings, and it's like this there's always a black sheep. Yeah, like and they all date and they did the right things, but they still made the wrong choices, you know what I'm saying? So I think it it truly all depends. But this also while I go was into the conversation how you tie everything how you tie everything together, where you have the people who are who have the three or four kids and they're making fifty thousand. You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying don't have the kids, that's not what I'm saying. I'm strictly saying, as opposed to how do you afford to live here. Yeah, that's why I'm not opposed when people say they want to move out of New York City. I totally get it. I'm not opposed to it because it's fucking expensive, especially if you have multiple mouths to feed. Yeah, it's damn near impossible, especially if you're a single parent. Yeah, male or female. It's it's it's it's fucking difficult. Now, as opposed to me, I love living in New York City because I love I love the arts, I love the film, I love being I love being here. But I do get why people move for a fact.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:35

Well, they say if you could survive in New York, you could survive anywhere. No, yeah. Imagine you couldn't go down a block and it's no bodega belly or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:42

Like or they close at six o'clock.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:45

What I hate going down south 100%. But you know what? Like, we all lived in like a different area that's kind of like remote from New York City before, too. So I think we understand what it is to live in those areas too. So we have the mindset that's a little different from the average person that will be dealing with this, just because we've been in those remote areas before. So we know what it's like to not actually have a bodega or the deli right there, or be able to order some Uber Eats like fucking three o'clock, four o'clock in the morning. Plus, we all had the experience where it wasn't really a rush, like get the fuck out the house, too. So our mindsets is a little different, but even though we didn't have that experience, like the get the fuck out the house type of thing, our parents also didn't like enable us to be like to fall back on them as a crutch. Like, granted, they wouldn't, like, if we was going through hard times, they wouldn't be like, fuck you, obviously. Right, right. But you know, the mindsets that we had, and you could say that our parents, the way they, the way they raised us was like kind of what Jay's talking about. Like, even if they were were struggling or something like that, it really wasn't uh like well you gotta go do this, you gotta go do that. It was really just like I'm gonna give you all the tools you need to be able to survive on your own, but it's cool that you still here.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:03

Because at least for me, like the reason why I moved out last year, like honestly, do I have a great job? Yes. But like, we just became the 100k dudes, you know what I'm saying? Like, we wasn't really making enough, at least in my eyes, for us to be able to fully survive on our own. Like, you know, some a lot of people do it, but like, you know, the the mindset of my mom was like, I'm not gonna have you out there struggling, because then you still gonna probably be asking me, like, yo, I ain't got the hundred dollars for some groceries. Now I gotta go buy a grocery, you know what I'm saying? So I I just I just see it that way.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:37

Yeah, I definitely agree. And I agree with you, Jalen. Like, because I have this uh hyper-independency about me, like I'm kind of biased.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:44

Uh I'm not saying that was a like a knock on you, nah, nah, nah, nah. No, I'm agreeing with you.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:48

Like, yeah, because I often tend to use the word disservice because I'm like, nah, like you gotta, you know, something like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:55

I'm also like you shouldn't be 35 and went to your parents for help with it. Like advice, yes, but financial worries is something different. And there are people who, like you said, are raised the right way, but still could be financially uh financially uh mismanages their money all the time. Like this is you know what I'm saying? But I two things can be true, but I do think living in New York City is is super expensive. And this is also why some people who like I hate people who say, Oh, I was at the house by 18, no, but you were living with an ex for four years and you just don't reason why we didn't leave him because you you didn't want to go back to your mother's house. You know, that doesn't that doesn't that doesn't negate you, that doesn't make you independent. That just means you didn't get home. Two separate things.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:34

It just means you wasn't living with your mom.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:36

That's two separate things. You know what I'm saying? So there's that. But we're gonna shift over to the mental health. That's a great way to tie this in is like people that's why they usually leave the house at 18 because yeah, the way their parents perceived or whoever they was living with was so negative, had such a negative impact on them. But go ahead, Britt, take it away.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:55

Oh well, I just want to shout out uh Maya's Mental Health Awareness Month. Um, shout outs to one of my good friends. Um, her name is Dr. Rabirdi. She um is licensed. Uh it came. It's a delay on this. It's definitely but um shout outs to her. She had she's an author, um, she has her own private practice, so I'm really proud of her.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:20

So we gotta work that out. It's a little glitchy system.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:24

But um, I just wanted to do that little shout out to mental health um awareness. And speaking of mental health, yeah, shout outs to her. She watched the pod, so shout out to her. Shout out to her twice. Um, speaking of mental health, let's get into the a little talk about it. Well, you know, um, did y'all see it was a video circling around Meg and Clay maybe back together? And did y'all see that, Lil?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:50

I saw it. I mean, I don't know if it was like real recent or old, but I did see it.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:55

And yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's old or new, but I think it if it is new, it definitely falls back into 90%. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:08

You put that in a chat, I was like, yes. Nah, nah, that's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:12

Shout out Yolanda.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:14

Part of the 90%. Yo, that is crazy. You know I love you, sir.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:22

Yolanda see this on her little. I didn't engage in none of that. I didn't make the joke. Y'all friends now. Y'all friends now. I didn't make the joke. I'm just I'm just here on the pod, man. But nah, if that's yeah, listen, man. It's it's I ain't got nothing to say, man. But I'm gonna be honest, too. That's up to date, and that's up to date. And secondly, it's real quick. I don't think that's a win for any party. Okay. Because at this point, it's not a win unless y'all get married and it's like set in stone. It's not a one him him taking you back at this point. It's just like, okay, so now in my eyes, and this is not just her and him. I mean, if any of my boys was to have a breakup or my girls was to have a fallout like this, like that, publicly within like social media, and you were to take them back, I'm not gonna sit here and say, Oh, here we go again. I'm I'm not that type of friend. Right. But uh, what I will say is, bro, this if y'all don't get married, I really don't see the point. Okay, I couldn't. That's that's that's the only like that's a mature answer. Because it's not like there's not that if it's Jay. Nah, accurate, I'm not toxic.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:21

But you know what? Toxic Joe is in the building. So shout out to all the 90% that came back to your boy. If you were part of the 90 that came back to your boy, shout out to you. You feel me?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:33

Anywho, now we could get into the talking about.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:37

It don't be me, bro. I'd just be talking about Jazz. I hope you're watching, Jazz. But I hope you're talking about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:42

I said Toxic Joe was in the building. I know you did. You announced it. It's okay. We didn't, but Jalen's usually toxic.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:48

I'm not.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:49

I think it's the hat. The hat says lover boy today.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:51

I forgot I got the lover boy hat on. Let me let me deep, let me get in tune. So you're a certified lover boy now? Shout out to August 11th for the cop, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:00

Yo, but okay, my question. We were talking about this earlier, a little bit earlier. And it was something that um I seen on Instagram, like scrolling, you know. And they the question was do you think it's sassy for a man to have a work from home job?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:14

This is actually a crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:18

What? That was what it was. Because I'ma be honest with you. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:25

If I could do my job from home, I'm doing it. The fuck?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:28

Do you think that like women are labeling men sassy because they have work from home jobs?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:33

But you know what? We had a conversation about this. Women are labeling men sassy or the term or saying they're gay for everything. I saw some joint, it was like, yo, if you don't have Apple Pay to tap to pay, you gay. What?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:49

I was throwing. That's insane. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:52

So it makes diff this is what makes dating in New York City so damn difficult.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:57

No, okay, so y'all know I work from home, right? So what I wish Corey would have a work from home. I think my standpoint is it doesn't make him sassy. Or whatever. You work from home, we got more time together, like we chilling, and you know, you could do your thing while you want to clean, you know, whatever we're gonna not gain some heat house.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:15

You know what I'm saying? Like, like because I don't pick things up and put things down, I'm sassy.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:19

Here's here's what it is, right? Women like men who does shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:25

What does that mean? Who does what shit?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:27

So if if I'm making money, I'm doing shit. So this is I think that women have to see the man physically do the labor to be turned on.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:39

Man, fuck all that noise, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:42

I I honestly think men a woman has to it's it's like a women love Chris Brown.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:49

That he worked from home. He worked from home. He worked from home. Do we not, Jay? Do he not work from home? He worked from home. Like what?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:05

And they want to do chooses and all that, like. He ain't with that way. But I I honestly think women like to see men physically do the work.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:17

Like, the same way uh all I'm gonna say about this is man, the same way a woman likes to see a man work, there's some women who love to see a man that's married and think, oh, I can sleep for him too. Oh that's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:30

Not too much on the girlies.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:32

I can't call the dude sassy because you work on the girl. I'm gonna be honest with you, like the girlies insane. The girlies, like, it's that's like trending right now. Like, for look, I would say probably what? Like the past year or two, it's been like a thing to just call men gay or sassy because they're doing something that you don't agree with. But if if that's the case, am I supposed to start calling women this and that because I don't I don't like the shit they do? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:58

If someone making however much money they are working from home and they're able to be comfortable and pay their bills or whatever, like I I mean, I personally don't have no problem with it.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:08

Like, just imagine he made 100k at home. Just chilling.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:13

Now listen, I'm not someone who wants to work from home. I personally don't want to do that. I have to be back to act. That's just me. Like, I'm not saying that makes me more of a man than someone who wants to work from home. Nigga, do to each his own, bro. There's that's why there's so many different jobs. Like, that's why it's not just one job out in the world. If that's what works for you, would you do like something where you're hybrid, where you work?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:30

No, not at all. No, really, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:32

I like to be in the streets.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:34

Toxic. I mean, I think I work for the streets. This is the thing though. This is people off the fucking shit. I'm tired of you lying on my name.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:41

Toxic. He likes to be in the streets. That was a crazy comment. Especially, especially like I work for the street. You know, you you you think about the past pods and the stuff you say, like yo, he yo, like, yo, yeah, he loved to be in the streets for real, for real. No, but but think of it like this though, Jay. Like, just because you just because you working from home, don't don't mean that you can't still do all the other stuff that you like. Like, you can still go to the gym. You can still pop out. Like Brit said, you could take your laptop with you if you're like.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:08

Noelle called me the other day. He like, yo, you always out. Like, like, I just take my laptop, I'll be out.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:15

My career, bro. I like it. No, I'm I'm not saying you, I'm not saying you don't.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:18

I'm just saying, but I look at it as a bigger picture, right? These women that's calling men sassy. I quite frankly, when I have kids, I want Corey to be able to be at certain moments and certain jobs because women like to have their men working because they want them to pay for a lot of things, they're gonna miss out on these kids certain moments or whatever. So I look at it as a bigger picture. I'm like, oh, my man wake from home. All right, cool. We both take our laptop and we go to Little Brielle's concert or school show or something like that. You get what I'm saying? Versus where sometimes you gotta either take off or you can't take off. You can't take off.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:55

Like, imagine, like, yo, a graduation and you can't go to your kid's graduation. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up on work and I'm gonna be like, yo, what you I'm just curious, Brit.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:02

Like, where does this mean a career? Because there's some jobs working from home where that's not a career.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:06

Oh no, a career, actual career. Like my career.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:08

Something a career for what I was saying, actual career security. Yeah, like something with growth. Yeah, like I don't want to say growth. I just mean like job security. No, actual career. Yeah, like if it's an actual, like, not no bullshit job. Nah, nah, nah. Cool, like, yeah, like if that's how you make your money, big bro. Like, I ain't yeah, I like I and this is me personally, I can't speak on Jordan, but I can never shit on another man on how he makes his money as long as he's making his money. Like, that's that's that's that's that's some whole shit, bro. Like, if you're making your money, how you making it? Long as you ain't killing nobody for it, like I ain't robbing niggas for it, like I ain't. One quick note, I digress. I saw this one Cameron's podcast, and I thought this nigga was a genius when he fucking said this shit. So gas is sky high. Sky high. I I know where you're gonna get. He said this nigga was a genius. He said, so the scammers ain't figured out how to get gas yet. I don't I don't condone committing some crimes. But if I can figure out a way to get some cheaper gas, my nigga, where y'all at? Why didn't y'all why didn't y'all crack the code on that? Talk about it. Why didn't they crack the code on that?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:03

If you could crack the crackhead gas, I need that crackhead that usually pull up, like yo, I got that cottonel for you for the two dollars. Legit. Yo, you tell me you got some.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:11

If you was a coming and tell me, not even if you could tell me you got a uh fucking yeah, legit, a gallon or something, like yo, you got this, like, well, yeah, I feel I'm weak. I need that.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:20

Wait. No, but yo, I I got something funny to tell y'all. So I went to like this past week, right? I went to a baby shower.

unknown 1:20:28

Right?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:29

Was the baby father there? I'm toxic flag answer, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:31

That was a toxic. Yeah, like oh that was crazy. Nah. Don't disrespect my boy like that. He was there. All right, he was there very shit? He was there.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:43

That was yo, Joel. Nah, yo.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:50

That was why, and this is why the fans say he's toxic. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:57

That was hella toxic. Yo, boy, you got his off, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:00

All right, I'm gonna let you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:01

Back to the story. Back to the story.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:04

I know niggas were wondering.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:06

But back to the story. First off, it was it was my boy. Like, I went because it's my boy. Okay, she's big, boy. So the dad was there. Thank you very much. Congratulations, bro. But um congratulations to both parents. All right, so look. So we're in there, everybody enjoying themselves, right? And then there comes a time where someone starts shooting a music video in the baby shower. What? Music video. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, look. I got you. She's my nigga not by starting to do it. I would have lost my they run about three to five songs straight. Music video. And we all trying to figure out, like, yo, who cousin, aunt, like, whatever is this? Like, really going off right now, shooting a music video. And then I thought about it, I was like, yo, this can't be my boy family. Because if it was his family, she would have went off on like yo, your family ruined my baby's house and all this other stuff. Who was it? Huh? No, no, so so now my boy pulls up, right? And I'm like, yo, who family was that? He just laughed and said, not mine. Yo, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:13

So just going based off that, right? Okay, ready to pay 17%, my boy. Just go off that.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:21

17%. And don't get me wrong, when his aunt walked back then in the music style, she was like, Thank God. That is awesome. Wait, so this was like uh I don't know. I don't know if it was like it was I don't know if it was planned, but they had like a whole thing where she was legit shooting a music video in the corner, and I was weak. Now, but like you know what? That baby shower was like, it had a lot of different things, like moving parts. Because like, even my boy, like, I I always knew like he had had this uncle that was an actor. Never knew who the dude was. So then his uncle walked in, and I'm like, oh shit, I know who that is. I look, and the first thing I wanted to say was, ain't nobody coming to see you, Otis? Because his uncle was the dude that played Otis in the Temptations. I know, I know, so I gotta react to everything. No, no, no. I'm just saying, so that's so that was my first point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:18

I would get my joke.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:21

I was listening to nigga, what the fuck? You know, Joel be waiting us to be fully engaged. Engaging. They looked at me first. I thought you were gonna react first. I was like, sometimes it got past the book.

unknown 1:23:36

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:37

Nah, you see, he didn't give me the energy I wanted. You know what? Probably wasn't a good joke then, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:41

Oh wow. Oh shit. All right, let's get to the heart segment, Britt. Take it away, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:47

All right, so our feelings. Joel actually asked me, he was like, is it okay to ask this question? And the heart segment.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:55

I don't know which question this is, that's here, so please.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:57

When is it okay for a female to give up the goodies? The cocoa puff, the the frosted flakes, the foodie pebbles.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:08

You want me to go first?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:09

I mean, I'll go first. Wait, but we gotta talk about why. So it was it was a clip, and this lady was that a podcast? Was I don't know what it was.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:19

I don't remember, but it was a clip. The problem is, see, I'm gonna tell y'all, they put too much fucking shit in a group chat and they don't make them keep it professional. They put all their personal stories in the group chat. This, this, and that, or what's going on with the Knicks, and they don't keep it about stripping. You put what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:32

What's going on with the Knicks? You see how they like to sniff?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:35

I mean, you was talking shit. I put you on Blaster on Instagram. I did. I was talking shit, but I said the Knicks versus Coco.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:40

Hey, fuck Coco.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:41

Wow. Anywho, no, so it was this clip where a female quote then, I guess, on a podcast, let's say it was a podcast, and she was saying, like, she went on a date with this guy. He was so good. Like they've been dating. Oh, you didn't put that in date.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:53

Okay, I remember.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:53

I do remember. But you you know the dude that always be saying the um the stuff where you was like, Sean, put you on.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:58

Oh, that guy, yeah. That was the same guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:00

Yeah, same guy, same guy. That nigga's Mav. He's from Jersey. That name.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:04

I didn't know who he was, but the clip was very interesting because um she was going in, she was like, you know, he's amazing, he's a good guy, blah, blah, blah. I remember now. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. And then she was like, be here, be here.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:15

She said, bro. Um he was like, she didn't even think about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:21

She was like, why do I have to do that? Or whatever. So Joel, he hit me up. He was like, you know, if you're comfortable talking about this, like, would you want to add it? I'm like, yeah, sure. I don't give a fuck. Like, let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:31

You you want me to go first? Yeah, go first. I'm gonna be honest with you. There is no timetable. If you want to give it up to him the first night, do what you do. It's okay with having a one-night stand, gang. It's okay with that. If that if that's what you want, if that's the type timing you on.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:45

Toxic Joe is definitely.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:47

But if it is that it's something that you see in him that's so amazing and stuff like that, you can still give it up to him the first night. God damn it. I feel like that. No, no, because why would I do that? We talked about this already. Like, as a man, you only gonna start making your investment once you get the goods. That's not true. You gonna you gonna invest in her after like that? You kind of agreed with Joelle when we talked about this before. You was the one that said, gang!

SPEAKER_03 1:26:15

You was the one that said it, gang.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:16

Okay, here both y'all once, relax.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:18

Okay, wait, before we even get on him, go what would what is your standpoint on this?

SPEAKER_04 1:26:23

My standpoint is similar to gambling. Never invest more than you were feel like you're worth losing. As a guy. I'm not gonna go out on nice dates if I know she's not gonna let me hit.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:36

Or I might let I was doing from my understanding.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:39

Or I might if I it is nothing wrong with taking to a nice place and just went enjoy the company of a beautiful woman. There's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:45

Multiple times? Get out of here.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:46

Then you got then that's on you to leave.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:49

That's what it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:50

You telling me if you take a female, that same female, on several dates to nice places, places that you went to. Okay, one explain several. Five.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:58

Five is too much.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:00

Two.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:02

Okay, I say three. Three or four.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:04

After the third date, if she don't give you none, you're done with her. No. Clarify. Okay, please. Black track. Please. Span it there. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:11

For the Spanish people, I got you. I blind spin your if I like someone. The first date does not have to be an extremely lavish date. Can we all agree on that? The first date should just be. I agree. Whatever we're doing. Okay. Second date, and second date could be, in my opinion, it could be whatever, like if it's the it's baseball season. You know what I'm thinking about going to you can give me on the goal or whatever the case is. Like it could be more of a, it doesn't have to be, you know what I'm saying? Now the third date, you might want to go somewhere nice, or it could be whatever the situation is. There's still no, but by the third date, you should we can all agree. There's at least been at least a kiss or some form of intimacy.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:44

Can we all agree on that? Or hold their hands or whatever. Maybe not. It all depends on the type of speed that the guy the gentleman is on. It all it all depends. There are women who might say, Yo, by the third date, he didn't even try to kiss me yet. Okay. So it all depends on the type of speed of a woman. Now, if we're talking about we're at the fourth date, so and it's so uh please have. Some common sense people when I'm saying the fourth date. If we're by the fourth date, we've at least been talking for at least a month.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:05

Correct.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:05

Like at least. Like exactly. We're not going on four dates in a week. Like for y'all, that nigga don't got a real job.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:10

At least a month. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like that. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:12

Like we can all agree on the timeline, right? Right, right. Okay. So we're at least four months. I mean, sorry, four dates in at least kiss by now. I think that is fair.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:21

Especially because most of the time in between, you probably talking on the phone. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:26

It's a buildup to it. I'm gonna hear what he's saying, though. If we're at the fifth date and you expect by the fifth date, okay, let's say that's at least two and a half months, or at least two months. Okay. I'm not saying you have to smash, but if you have the if your main goal was to smash and you haven't, you should be out.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:44

If your goal is to just smash, you should be out. Like, what are you staying for? So you given the perspective of the guy, what the guy's time for.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:51

Yes, yes, yes, yes. So that's what I'm saying. Okay. Now if you're a woman, you give it up whenever you want to. You could get up on the first date. That's what I'm saying. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:00

But like how does these males look at the female that gives it up on the first date, give it up on the second date, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:07

No, no, so this this that so for clarity, I'm more, I think, transparent. Okay. When it comes to some of these things, because I do believe you can smash on the first date, and it could end up being the love of your life. It is possible. It depends on the person. It's a maturity. Yeah, it all the like I'm I agree. I'm not 21. You know what I'm saying? Like it all depends. But for a woman to wait by and Britt, you're a female. Women know by at least by the fourth or fifth date if they want to sleep with the person. Rather wrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:34

Have an idea, ankling like, oh, it could happen.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:36

I feel like some females be like the second date.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:39

So what are we talking about? Some women got that what is it? 90 day rule. No, no, like the the yeah, the 90-day rule. I don't I don't agree with that. Like, don't stick to a oh yeah, because I'm gonna give it up to him on the 90th day. Like, like if you feel like as if the connection is building, I feel like that's something that should happen organic. That's why that's why to me, if you give it up on the first night and it happens organically, what's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:01

So, you know what I used to say? Like, I used to- There's a lot wrong with that, but okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:04

Yeah, I what's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:05

If it happens organically, I feel like this is what I feel like for females, right? And we talked about this before. Once you give it up, you take that out. Or you like how you said it's a it's a gamble, right? So whether you give it up that first date, that second date, the 90 days, the 100 days, it could be a possibility that that man just wanted that and he moved on. Or it could be a possibility that he stays and you know, he continue his investment. I just feel like once you give it up, whenever you decide, it's I feel like as a female, you take care of your box. And whenever you feel like you want to open up your treasure box or whatever like that, just know what you're doing. That's how I feel about it. Because once you do that, just know it's a possibility you may take an L. It may be a dude that you really liked. You waited your 90 days that you had for yourself, or you waited your two dates. And it may be a possibility he wasn't on that same time as you.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:57

Or it might be a possibility that you're not on that same time as well. Exactly. You may not be feeling it that way. That joint was trying. And you may not be feeling it. He gave me 30 seconds, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05 1:31:07

I think when it came to watching the pie, I mean this clip, it was mad funny because he was like, and you ain't giving up or whatever. And she was really like just like, why am I giving it up?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:16

To be fair, he does, he does favor the men more than women. But so to be fair, you feel like he had a point with that? No, I don't think he did.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:24

You don't think so, but so how okay, would you continuously go out, even say after the fifth date, she's y'all kissing, y'all talking. How much do I like her? It goes on how much how long? Yeah, like how much does it absolutely?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:37

But that's basically what he's asking her. Yeah, if you like him so much, why you not okay? And he meets all your boxes, why you ain't giving him a bunch?

SPEAKER_04 1:31:45

Okay, that's two separate things. Someone we talked about the checklist, and I don't believe in the checklist. That's that's that's one. But I don't think you always have to equate to if you like someone, you automatically have to sleep with them.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:54

No, nothing. He's just asking her why didn't she? How long? Because I know some females that could make men wait a year. How long? What is your timeline?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:05

So I'm not just answering this, you say from a woman's perspective. So you want my answer or you want a woman's? Your answer.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:11

I want your answer. But now she's like, I'm not gonna. Like I got you from my answer the first time.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:15

I want your answer. Like I was saying, if it's about the fifth date and I really like her, I could put up with it. Because here's the thing, too. And now this is not a toxic answer. This is a straight fact.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:24

I feel like when he says it's gonna be a toxic answer.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:26

No, it's not because a man or if someone I could go on a date with you, but still be have something else that I'm smashing. So that's the point I'm saying. It's taking away the itch. The you know what I'm saying. That's and if that if I'm single, you could do you could play the field.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:38

A year though, I'm gonna be honest with you. Nah, yeah. A year is a year is crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:41

So that's the point I'm just trying to get out of you. Like even though you wait and you have other people that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:47

So you're gonna go but let's let's take it from the perspective of let's say I don't have other people. Like there's no other prospects. And it's just her that I'm focused on.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:55

You cleared your cover.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:57

Cleared the cover, it's just her that I'm focused on. Okay. It's insane. No, because it has to be a conversation. Because a lot of you would have to because imagine what Jay's talking about, right? If if we're if we're saying on average it's about four dates a month. No, what? A month? No, because you you said No, four days was at least two months. So four months, four days two months. Four days, two months?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:17

No, no, I'm saying that's I'm seeing you once every other week. Other week? If we're not like if we're not exclusively exclusive, we're just in the token stage.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:24

Who's the same one that said you go on 16-hour dates? Wasn't he that saying? Fuck out of here. Fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:32

That wasn't never hitting you with the Delilah. That's crazy. No, no.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:40

I feel like four dates a month every week. I I think that's a good thing. So I'm saying, like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:45

Even if it's not sound track, let's make it free. Listen, four months every two, uh, four dates every two months, like Jay said, right? Okay. So that's what? Six times, six times four? No. Wait, what? What?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:55

This nigga's math is crazy. What are you talking about? You said four dates in two months.

unknown 1:33:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:00

Four dates a month.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:01

So I'm I'm breaking it down for the year now. So that means why? Why are we doing all that? Yeah, what's if we've been on eight big things? Because you it's a year. So I'm saying that doesn't mean I'm gonna see you that much in that year.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:12

Yeah, things happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:13

I'm saying if things happen, obviously it might be a little bit more, it might be a little bit less. Okay, okay, go ahead. Like, imagine you done going on over 20-something dates with this person in that year. And and you talking about conversations. We on the phone talking about it. Yeah, like there has to be conversations. We have an intimate like conversations and stuff like that, because we're getting to know each other. And you making me wait over a year to hit the.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:34

There has to be a conversation.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:35

Like, you can't, and celibacy is not what I want.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:38

Not even that, but even Britt. Because you made the reaction like we have a conversation. You if I expect you to be my personal or whatever, you can't be uncomfortable having an uncomfortable conversation.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:46

No, no, no. My reaction was because I was about to ask you how would that conversation sound or go or personal over the phone. It don't matter. However, you So we're we're in person. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:55

Right? We've been dating for, according to Jordan's math, this is the eighth date in two months, which is fine. That's fine. That's all we'll look at. Okay. Eighth date. Uh one then I made my move and you're like, we're being intimate or kissing or whatever, then you say, Oh, this is not the right time. I'm like, all right, well, we've been doing this for a couple months. We've gone on. Yeah, we're there 100%. Like, are you being celibate or are you dating something? As toxic as I think. Because I'm fucking nah. Y'all niggas be listening to these niggas that be talking about.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:21

He definitely toxic, but he he he knows how to talk to women. He's not gonna disrespect you. Oh, is that boy? That's the lover boy part.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:26

Yeah, like absolutely not. Nah, I wasn't expecting him to dis but you know, females, some females, try to avoid uncomfortable conversations.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:35

I won't be with you no more. You have to stop that.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:37

That's not that's not put it there.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:40

Because that's not toxic. You have to do that. If you if you don't I don't because if you have if you're if your fork in the road is having difficult conversations, how can I, as your potential significant other, know how you're gonna cope with in the future, God forbid you break a leg or I break a leg. How do if if I know you cannot deal with adversity, how can I expect us to last?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:07

I uh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:08

See or no? No, no, I mean you have a point.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:10

You have a point, but however, you are big on your strict, like your strict program. No one's gonna come to you perfect.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:18

I'm not asking you to come perfect, but if we if you like fit like you say in basketball terms, if we this is game seven, nigga. You the life just went on a seven or one. Sometimes you gotta call timeout. Okay, you can't sit there and say, I don't want to do this no more. I can't, I'm overstimulated. This is not I'm I'm done. Because I one thing I hate when the conversations, uh especially over text, that's like the worst, they have the argument. Oh, yeah, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:40

If you're having sex and we texting, I can't stand an argument over text. You don't know how I'm saying anything, but you just taking every word as a picking up what I'm putting down. I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:51

And once someone hits me with the I'm overstimulated, I'm immediately turned off. Really? Immediately, nigga. Because if you can if you this is this is how pick up what I'm putting down real quick. If you can sell the conversation is getting to a place where you think it's not working, yo, just call me.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:05

Exactly, because you're probably overstimulated from texting.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:08

Exactly. No, this is because you can just call. Because someone says, Oh, I'm overstimulated, this is too much, I'm going to have a bad day. You can you could tell me I'm having a bad day. That is cool. Right. But we're in the midst of having a conversation, you're telling me, I don't know what you're talking about, you're overstimulating me. In my head, all I hear is, oh, this chick cheats, ready to clock out.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:25

But you know what though? Because uh because I understand what you're saying, but then I'm also a fan of if stuff really gets too hot and you feel as if it's too much from you, we could pause this conversation. That's fine.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:36

That's that's two separate things.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:38

That's two separate things. I mean, obviously, we're not gonna let it drag out for three months, but like if if it's too much for you right now and you can't have this conversation, even if we get through the rest of the night, like because obviously we don't want to have no bad blood and have to sleep together in the same bed.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:53

That's I don't like bad energy rolling in the streets.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:57

We can't be mad at each other going to bed, right? Okay, but so we could just still get it out of our head, like act like everything is back to the way it was before the conversation. But tomorrow we need to have that conversation, or even if it's two days, we need to have that conversation because it's uncomfortable for a reason. People like things only are uncomfortable because you're not used to what's going on. And the bad situations is gonna be the stuff that you're not used to. So we're gonna have to be able to push through that.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:23

Like, but the reason why I said for him, he has to stop that because oftentimes when Jalen.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:28

So why me and not him? Because she already know my answers be mature as fuck.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:32

No, it's not that you're into it mature as fuck. Nah, I'm weak. No. It wasn't that your sister was immature. It wasn't.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:47

Okay, nothing different than what I said.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:49

Listen to what I'm saying. You tend to be, no, I'm not doing this. No, it's not working. No. And what I'm trying to say is people, a female is not gonna come to you all the way built. We talk about this all the time. And a female is not gonna come to you all the way perfect, right? Where there may be some trauma or issues that happened in the last not that you gotta heal. Yeah, but I'm not saying we don't.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:13

You know what it is? Uh, if I could simplify what you're saying, Britt. Basically, when she says that you got a strict program, she's she is saying that like if somebody comes to you with pushback, you don't like that, and you exit from the situation instead of like, so like that makes you uncomfortable, so you exit out.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:30

No, that's not accurate. Here we're felt like that before your answers. So this here's the best way to validate someone's feelings. I hear what you're saying, but it's not accurate. That's okay. So I hear what you're saying, but it's not accurate. Okay, so what is okay so if I'm dating someone, I agree. I agree with what you just said. Oh, because it's like it's I'll validate your feelings, but it's not, it's just it's not hitting the marks. That's not accurate. Okay, it's not accurate. I'm gonna hear because again, if we're having a conversation of something something so minuscule, like uh the the we're at we're at dinner and the forks are dirty. Right? You say, oh, hey, you go to the waiter, hey, can you clean them? Whatever, whatever. It's it's cool. Right, whatever the case is, we have whatever and it's cool. So then when we get home and you're still harping, I can't believe the place was like this. I'm like, all right, like I hear you, whatever's cool. And now the next day comes and you're still telling me about a situation, and then you tie it back into, oh, but you brought me to this restaurant and they had dirty forks. I'm like, okay, hold on. I I bought you there, but it wasn't my fault the tensions were dirty.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:32

I think that's a bad example to tell me. Oh, because let me get there.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:35

I'm not even done. See what he's talking about. So it's like now you're already putting, you're already putting me, you're already making me of something. So then now I'm like, okay, that's uh you're already being immature because that's not you're already misplacing your frustration. So now if you're misplacing your frustration on me, now I'm you're already in a bad light already doing that because that's not even accurate. You're not even you're not even properly aligning where your emotions are supposed to be mad at because that I picked the rest of them but that's like being like the fuck I got nothing to do with the fucking way.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:02

A lot of the sounds that's how it's gonna be, though. They like when you deal when you deal with women, they they're gonna misplace some of their emotions onto you, and which which is fine. But I think more so what Jalen was harping on, but he just ain't say was like sometimes something might be important to you, but it's not important to me. So the energy that you give on the situation, you really care about it, you passionate about it, but I don't really give a fuck about it. So I don't really give a fuck that the the folks was dirty because they they gave me some clean forks.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:30

Right, it's but you still harp on.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:32

I think whereas in it, like for me, it's just like yo, let's move on.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:36

But I don't agree with the part of like what he was saying of like blaming, blaming you for it. Like that part, like I don't there are females that would do that, like blame you for.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:47

We already came to the conclusion. No, no, no. I'm just I'm just saying, we already came to the conclusion that you're not the same as some other females. So like some stuff that you won't do, you can't really represent the girlies just because a lot of the girlies do come with that. Uh because because I can't I can't go after the people who thought it really is, I'm gonna project that onto you just because I'm still upset about it. So I gotta get my emotions out.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:12

No girlies, that's silly. Don't do that. Let's not do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:15

Let's let's look. You see, Jay? Is he on your side sometime?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:19

The podcast.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:20

I was on his side too. Yeah, like I was on his side. I just wanted to hear more. Cause you know, that's when I don't be on your side. Anywho. I digress.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:34

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:35

You're still toxic, so it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:41

But you have the next question?

SPEAKER_05 1:42:43

Uh yeah, sure. Well, we'll get into the next question. Joe, the next question was yours, too. Was it? Yeah, it was. Yeah, well, I be asking questions. Be making up shit, don't be paying attention. The next question was, does oh what no? This is yours, Jalen.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:56

Was it is it? Look at you. That was not mine. Be making up questions. It's not yours? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:02

So I let them take over the her segment and clearly you see I shouldn't have to be able to get it. It wasn't asked because I was just pretty unorganized. So what is it though? Does resentment always grow when you're the friend of the popular person?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:14

Oh, okay, that was my question. I mean, but I'm not looking at it like y'all, so I so I don't know exactly what you're doing.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:20

I usually organize the dog, and so when you throw things in there and you in the chat throwing things in there, and then you're like, But I'll be like, yo, I just threw something in there, and then you was back with humiliating.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:31

No, you was you was like, ooh, I like that. I like that. So you saw it. Okay. Alright, what's the question? Thank you. I was gonna cut this off. We're definitely standing on it.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:48

Does resentment always grow when you're the friend of the popular person?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:52

This is a real hater question. Is it a but that's the thing? Like, don't get me wrong, does it breathe from the H-word? Where did you get this question from? From from y'all, from y'all that don't know, when I say H word, I don't like to say the word hate. So I just replace it. So if you ever hear me say H-word or H-wording, that's exactly what I mean. But like it definitely does stem from that, but I feel like sometimes it is understandable that you no no Let me get to it. Because right, if you have like a friend who's like very popular, very successful, right? Sometimes the resentment in someone else does grow just because you're not as successful, or like you're relying on that other person's success or that other person's popularity to kind of in a sense boost you. So I'm not saying it's okay to be resentful, but I understand why it happens.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:51

Uh no. I like I said, I can only speak for my experience and me in life. Like this way, it doesn't give one iota for me to give anyone hate if they're being successful, especially if they're working for it. Like it's it doesn't take away from my success. Like it doesn't. Your vote is not my vote. Like, if you get however, if you make seven figures by 25, yo, good for you. Like, uh, that's what's up. You earned it. Like, I'm not. I've never been, I was always raised that way. Like, however, you get yours is how you get yours. There's no reason for me to try to dim your life to try and pick me up. I can't stand people who do that. That's like when people are in their family, be like, oh, they start. You ever go on a date with someone to meet their family? And then there's always that one person in the family, like, oh, this such, such, such, such. Don't talk to them because they do this. Like, nigga, I'm not even really a part of the family. You trying to give me the tea. Like, don't do that. Like, don't put them down, like, whatever. Like, there's no, there's no need to do that. Like, if especially if it's like your boy, like this, I tie this into the Drake shit. So the one of the bigger issues I had, like, with the song with the one to Atlanta was that in Britt, I'll tie this in with you. This is the perfect race for like a segue, is that if me, if you and Yolanda are friends, right? But Yolanda picks up Erica.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:04

And Erica comes to your house in Yolanda's car and slaps you or punches you in the face. And then Erica gets in Yolanda's car and Yolanda drives her home. How are you gonna feel about Yolanda?

SPEAKER_05 1:46:14

I'll be like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04 1:46:15

And that's how I feel about how Drake talking the future, because all this started when Kendrick was on your song and shot at you. That was the first song that's what I was doing. And now he's cool with yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I I I do think, and there are people, like Jordan said, there are people like this. Hope none, hopefully none of my friends that do I guess hold this resentment, or they're they sit there and say, Oh, why do you have this and I don't? Like, I that's like that's the biggest whole shit, I think. That's to me, you're in the same people who do that are the same ones who text your girl when you're cheating.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:54

But that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think that anybody in this room ever has done anything like this or ever would, just because that's not the type of people we are. It's a coward. But I I'm just saying, yeah, and I'm just uh I basically just put the question there to talk about like average people or like like people who like you know situations like this have happened. So not necessarily you.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:17

Uh I think that wait, would you gonna say I think that we see this every day though when it comes to celebrities, like when they got money, it's a quick turn. Money changes everything, right? I don't care what nobody says, like money will change everything or whatever. Um, I think as in friends and different things like that, it can it can occur where you know your friend could be jealous of a relationship that you have that they don't have, or jealous of, you know, just oh, this friend does this for you more than you do for me, or y'all hang out more than I think it's like a girl thing more than a guy thing. That's more it's like a girl thing more than a guy thing. I can say that I maybe experience this, not with anyone that I called a friend, but it'll be like girls that hit me up later, like, oh, I only became close to you because of such and such or whatever. And I'll be like, What? Like that's weird. I'm not even thinking about that. Yeah, like I'm not even thinking about stuff like that. Um, but I do feel like like what Jalen said, I look at it like say Yolanda gets her own business or whatever, like that. I'm proud. My resentment, it's not gonna be resentment. It's gonna be motivation, like, oh, she did this, I'll quit on one of my goals now. Like, or do you even help promote like this? I seen my friend do it, so I I know I could do it. Like, it's like a motivational thing. Like, we build, like, I feel like people just look at things as like, oh, you only you could build up your partner. You build up your friends too. Like, yo, you wanna do this? Ay, we're gonna do it together. I mean, just think about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:51

Yo, my nigga, I'm pressing a fucking button.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:55

Just think about it. The fact that you just said that, all of us sitting here on this pod right now. It was all like uh, yo, we got the idea to do this, let's work together and build each other up. You know what I'm saying? Let's let's bring Britney in. Let's like, you know, let's do this as friends and stuff like that. So I don't, like I said, I don't think any of us have that type of energy to beat on that type of time, but I feel like situations like this do happen.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:20

No, I'm not saying it, I'm not saying it don't happen. Like I know what you meant once you started talking about it. I'm I'm trying to personally think of any friendship that I know that like garnet any of that. That I and this might be something that might happen behind closed doors. I might not never know the truthful, the true meaning of why I fell out with somebody. Like, I don't I can't say I ever had those like conversations, but I even now like I don't think about even my people who I'm close with or sit there and say, Oh, you got this, or like it's just not the only thing like I could think about is when it comes to like maybe like work purposes, but that's like the nepotism. Like so someone gets rewarded a position, but we know they got it because X, Y, and Z. But I was still like, yo, good luck and whatever you're doing. Like, I won't sit there and say you took the spot away from me. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I I do feel like that's a a real character flaw of some people. But again, so it's cheating. So the people have character flaws. People aren't perfect. Like I don't know what else to tell you.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:11

No, definitely. I I agree with you. I think it's a clapp character flaw. I think you do see it more in women. I think with men you probably see it where like somebody's sleeping with your ex.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:25

I think that's where you see that at.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:27

Um, but other than that, I don't think y'all really have those type of I mean I think I feel like what you said might be true though.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:33

Like celebrities might go through it more. Like you got like the the you know, we don't like to talk about yay because of the because of Jay, but like the yay situation where his cousin stole the laptop and starts selling the music and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:44

What you say he gave his cousin head? That wasn't crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:49

We talk about the situation right here. I didn't hear that right. No, we're not talking about that, Britt. Or you or you got the boy Or you got the situation recently with Floyd, where now he's suing one of his old partners that you didn't talk about that. I didn't make that his old partners that he used to work with because they stole a bunch of his jewelry, like hundreds, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of jewelry, sold it for 13 million, like made him sign over his private jet over to them, like just a whole bunch of, and I feel like a lot of that is built based off of like envy and resentment. Like, you're not the guy that got this. I mean, it's also stupidity.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:27

Read read the shit that you signed, but I mean you can read one page of a Harry Potter book.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:35

Shout out 50! You got it, shout out 50.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:39

Oh man, what are we looking forward to wrap up the week, bro?

SPEAKER_05 1:51:42

Uh oh, it's Memorial Day weekend. What's up?

SPEAKER_04 1:51:46

It's fucking 65 degrees out and raining in New York City. No cookouts.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:50

Jim Jones be outside with sandals on in the snow. Like, what are you talking about right now? What are you doing this week?

SPEAKER_00 1:51:58

It's finally the time we're going to see Don Tolliverman. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:04

You still haven't sent me none of it's a mail.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:07

I sent you the album. No, you did not. I promise you I sent you the album. Don Tolliver's a male.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:12

See y'all. I promise you I sent you the album. I mean, I'll be looking crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:15

I definitely sent you the album.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:17

You know who that is? You listen to his gossip?

SPEAKER_04 1:52:20

My name is. Alright. He probably had one of the biggest albums of the year. Do I know any of his songs? No.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:24

Okay. Probably not. But let's see. Don't shit on my parade. I'm excited. I'm going to the concert.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:32

No, I I was excited to listen to the music because you never sent me.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:36

I sent you the music. I'm going to send it to you again.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:38

Please.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:39

But I sent you the music. But that that is one thing I'm excited for. Um I got a couple events coming up. My sister's graduating. Congrats. How about her? You know? Big things coming up.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:57

No, no, I hear it. But it's not playing on time. It's like it's like it loads up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:02

No, no, no, I know. Because you're pressing it and then it's like.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:07

Uh Jalen, Mr. Mr. New York, Mr. Nyx.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:16

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:29

24 hours, y'all. I would just like to say I visit. 24 hours. We talk about ice bits. 24 hours. Next.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:39

I'm on your number one passive. Pastor Michael Jackson. NBA time to J. Finish Pro. Like I said, JZ. Fuck the Knicks. That's you. Fuck the Knicks. Nah, I'm lying. I really do want to see the next 6D because I'm hype.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:51

Like I said, the energy. Yeah, I'm too hype for the New York energy. I could care less about the Knicks, but I'm hyped for the New York energy. I like it.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:58

In 24 hours, my Knicks will be in the NBA Finals for the first time since I can remember as it might double.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:11

That's what you're for. I think my ship headphones fucking died.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:21

I thought you were about to take my mic out.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:24

Shout out to Brunson in the building.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:28

Shout out, Coco Joe.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:30

I guess. If we're talking about who's losing, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:36

We'll be back next week, y'all. I'll be here celebrating my next going to NBA finals. Joy be listening to Iceman. Be listening to house music. Whatever she be doing. I don't know what she be listening to these days. She ain't listening to the next, yo.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:49

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:50

Yo, Sean, we appreciate you, my boy, for looking out.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:53

Oh, shout out to um who is it that sent all the questions? Wally. Shout out to Wally. We gotta ask his questions. I got them saved, so don't worry.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:01

Yo, Wally, we got you, my boy. We appreciate y'all. We back next week, y'all. Take care.