I Love Mondays-Ep101

SuperFan Tuesday with "Treadmill Boy" ... what's the bigger story today, that the Brewers have MLB's best record at the 100-game mark?   or ... that Miz only went 4-innings last night and the Manager used the word "concerned" ??  Also, whick Packers offensive player not named LOVE is most important to 2026 success?

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:04

I love Mondays with Mike Hell.

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Broadcasting line from an undisclosed bunker in the Badger State. This is I Love Mondays with Mike Heller. Powered by determination and a little bit of duct tape. Here's your host, Mike Heller.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Okay, so here we go in on a Tuesday. It's a super fan Tuesday. That was such a cool night last night. I'm not just talking about the finish at American Family Field, uh, but on Brewers TV last night with Brian Anderson and Rock in the booth to have Billy Aaron in the booth on the anniversary of the 755th and final home run of Hank Aaron's career that happened in well, July 20th, 1976. Such a cool thing. And the Brewers kind of took some doubt out of the game uh as we went along, which was also great. Beat up a little bit on Freddie Peralta. And uh I know that some folks are going to, and by the way, this is actually funny. I'm gonna give uh real credit on this, Jay. Good morning, Mike. After last night, I want the Cubs to trade for Peralta. That's funny because I have said, you know, what if the Cubs go get the guy that you want? What if the Cubs go get Terek Scuble? You know, Peralta's, I heard another radio show in Milwaukee talking about Peralta to Milwaukee. Can we just take that off the table? I can't believe, even for a moment, that David Stearns would survive the day if he traded Freddie Peralta back to Milwaukee for lesser prospects than they gave up to trade for him. That's a bad look. So, I mean, nothing's impossible in the world of sport. I just don't think that's possible. And Freddie's got some question marks. And maybe Chris Hook and Jim Henderson could get that out of him. But right now, Freddie's uh bewildered. He talked about a post-game last night. He said his stuff is better, his secondary stuff is better. So it's a mystery to him on how he's given stuff up. But uh that was pretty cool. James says good morning, Mike from uh four, but I think from Westridge golf course in Nina. I think I've played there. Um, but it's listen, it's always good to be on a golf course. I don't care where you are. So good for you and stop rubbing it in. Mike in Merrill, good morning. And you have a rain shower? Because we don't work we're clean on that front, but rain is uh rain is good. Rain makes corn, corn makes whiskey. If you know, you know. Uh Mark says, good morning, all Hank Aaron, my childhood hero, and my dad watched him play growing up uh A-ball in Eau Claire at Carson Park. Yeah. Uh, and then Zach, good morning, everyone. Feels good to be on top of the league again because that's what the Brewers are. They have the best record in baseball. Um bigger story today, as we open up on a Tuesday. Bigger story that the Brewers have the best record in all of Major League Baseball, or that Pat Murphy used the term concerned about Jacob Mizarowski after three, after four innings last night. He went just four innings. The the pitching line wasn't deep. Um, his final line, four innings, four hits, one run unearned, six strikeouts and a walk. But Murph said he didn't come throw a command fat a commanded fastball after the second inning, just went all off speed essentially. That it wasn't there, his rhythm wasn't there, his timing wasn't there, maybe the time off. But there was one word I hung on that Murph said, and it was just a follow-up. And Murph said, concerned. Huh. If the manager says that in the post-game press conference about your Cy Young candidate and lead pitcher, and he uses the term concerned, was it it didn't get followed up on. There was enough already being talked about with Ms. Concerned just because of the outing, or concerned because he still hasn't bounced back properly? Because remember that was the terminology they used when they scratched him from the start in Pittsburgh against Paul Skeens um nine days ago. They said he just didn't bounce back from his previous outing. So that term concerned last night, is it about Ms. still not bouncing back? Or was it just because rhythm and timing were off because he hadn't pitched since July 7th? It's 13 days in between outings for a kid um who doesn't have that much experience. So maybe that's the concern. I don't know. But I didn't like the word. You know what that word was? It was concerning for me that Murphy used concerned. So I don't know what the bigger story is today. There's another element of the same Milwaukee uh radio show I was listening to this morning. Um you know, the summer of entertainment is a phrase that has been used against Mark Attanasio ever since he made it, but not by me. I don't think that the phrase was wrong. That is what you want to provide. If you get to the secondary meaning of it, the only way you're entertained is if you're a really good baseball team. It's not entertaining to be a fan of the Cincinnati Reds right now. It's not entertaining to be a fan of the Kansas City Royals or the Los Angeles Angels. Some people are saying, well, yeah, music and good restaurants and uh and nice bobbleheads. No, that's not what he means. I I'm going to get into the mind of Mark Atsanassio and tell you, for those who are still confused by it, what he means is to be competitive. Competitive is entertaining. And this team is not only competitive, they're the best team in baseball. But then there's some jabrozos out there that will then take that and go, well, tell me you're the best team in baseball in October, because that all that's all that matters. It does matter, and it is what you play for, but it is not the only thing that matters. Because if it was, then you wouldn't watch until October. Oh, is my team in it? Because now's the only time I care. I just don't buy into that uh that way of thinking. So um the the question on Miz, I think, is uh is concerning. Zach jumped back in and says being on top is fun, and the Ms. concerned is undoubtedly the bigger story dead in the water without him. Yeah, probably. If you didn't have if Miz, for whatever reason, if he ended up not being effective or got shut down at some point in the second half, your opportunity for uh October success probably diminishes greatly. Uh let me let me do this quick before because uh we have this available to us. So I want to jump in and uh and give you a little bit on our friends at One Community Bank. Onecommunity.bank, they put out a press release yesterday um citing their partnership and sponsorship of I Love Mondays. And uh and that's really cool because what they are, one community bank, is community involved. That's feel good banking. And I've always I always say when I talk about one community bank, give them a chance to earn your business. Don't give them your business, give them the chance to earn your business. They've earned it with us, they earned it with red and white wine bar. And I've told the story before, I won't go into details, but at one point we were thinking of leaving. 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All right, take care of that work, and then I welcome in this guy. His name is uh Jeff Vilker, but you know him as Treadmill Boy. Uh what's going on?

SPEAKER_01 11:23

How are you? I I mean, how could you not be anything other than great? Yeah, after that four games winning streak, best record in baseball. The Miz stuff is you know, there were some people paying pretty close attention when he had high pitch counts earlier in the year and they had totally taken the leash off. And I didn't it didn't it didn't not register, but it wasn't a I'm like they they know what they're doing and they do. But you put on his quote 30 pounds of muscle, but I don't still trying to figure out how that happens in a summer, but um but he was starting at a small base, so I get it. That creates just so much arm speed, yeah. Yeah. And you know, the weakest link, whether I'm not saying I'm not at all suggesting there's a UCL issue or there's a rotator cuff issue or anything else. But the weakest link certainly isn't your isn't your core and your ass, it's your arm.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

I didn't I didn't have a problem watching him pitch last night. My problem was post-game. I didn't even have a problem with the fourth inning, was it? Yeah, my problem was listening to Murph talk in the post-game press conference. That to me was the concern, uh, because he used that word. Yeah, and I don't like it when managers use that word, especially him, yeah. Because he he's fairly transparent, yeah, but he he's not gonna his words are measured.

SPEAKER_01 12:56

Every one of them, if he didn't give a shit about he, I know he cares about us fans, but I don't believe he's worried about worrying us fans, he cares about his players, yeah. And for he, I'm sure him and Miz had conversations prior, and they're gonna have a lot going forward. But when you say that as a player, what do you think? Right. Should I be concerned?

SPEAKER_02 13:21

Yeah, so uh Mike points out that in the postgame, Miz said he just didn't feel comfortable, he felt uncomfortable lower body, and they pulled him to be cautious. Yes, they did, but I'm I'm gonna bring back Murph's words. Um, very aware. These are uh little bites in there, very aware, monitoring Miz. Murph didn't like how Ms. was working, he was not right, stuff wasn't great, he was out of it. Long layoff affected his delivery. V load dropped, couldn't find the rhythm, and didn't throw a commanded heater past the second inning. And again, I'm I'm picking on a word. He said he hesitated. I think somebody in the press corps said something, and then he said, concerning. Okay, so concerning on performance or concerning on he didn't, he still isn't bounced back, yeah. And I don't know what the answer is, so I'm not trying to make something out of nothing. Uh, enough people in our industry do that. I'm not trying to do that, yeah. But he went four innings, and his pitch count was very low. So I love that they're cautious, but it makes me he is right now the franchise from your arm standpoint. And one of the reasons the Brewers have been so good and have the best record in baseball is that he has been the lead. You know, he and Kyle Harrison have carried the water from a starting pitching standpoint. Yeah, they've gotten great performances from Sprout and Drone and Henderson and a timed gasser.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Uh well, and Ashby's got Teddy Leavenwitz, so they're sure. But I get your point. You need that's not a quality start situation, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

So that's the only part of it that and I won't go much further, but I think that's a bigger monitored story. So I think of this homestand and that he pitched Monday. They have a Thursday off day. So in theory, he would pitch again on Sunday. Yeah. So Sunday's to me the watch game. Yeah. Like I want to see what they do coming up this weekend. Uh, certainly I want to see what they do in the rest of the series against the Mets and then a Friday, uh, Thursday off day. Friday Legends alumni, by the way, um, Jeff Jenkins is going to join me on the show Friday. Very cool. Uh, he'll be back as a legend. Um, but how cool having Billy Aaron in the booth. And can I just add one other thing? I don't know if you noticed this, but Brian Anderson has an ability to speak things into reality. Yeah. In the Cooper Pratt at bat, yeah, he brings up kid still is looking for his first home run. Yeah. And I believe on the very next pitch, he hits a home run. Anderson, BA has done that so often. Yeah, it's it it's almost he uh got a little crystal ball working.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

He's got maybe leads into stuff. Yeah, intuition might be informed by experience in this case. Um, and better to be lucky than good. And if you do it enough, the sample size matters too. But yeah, no, no question about it. And how how awesome was it that the fans hunted down the ball and got it back onto the field for him.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

I'd love to get the the backstory, and maybe they will on pregame tonight, but that fan gave up the ball quickly. Like he didn't say, uh, here, I'll meet where do I meet? Uh let me let me negotiate something, I'll give it back. But I'm gonna yeah, he I'm sure they because you could see the bullshit. The bullpen was pointing him out point up, like thank you. Thank you, and we're we'll take care of it. We'll get you taken care of. But yeah, he he did it opposite what a lot of people do. A lot of people hold it and say, Yeah, yeah, what how does this work? Um sure, I'd love to get some something for it. Yeah. Um, but that that was very cool. Let me tell you the story. Okay, so 1976, with Billy Aaron in the booth last night. 1976, um, I his last home run came on July 20th, but home run number 754 comes on July 11th. Hank didn't have much left in the tank. Yeah, it wasn't a great last year. I mean, consider his last home runs at the middle of July. But on Sunday, July 11th, it's a doubleheader against the Texas Rangers. So I'm 76, so I'm 12. Yeah. My 12-year-old year, turning 13 later that year. My dad was in the grocery business, so he on Sundays would be his clear day, and they have scheduled double headers. This is not a rain-out makeup, it's a scheduled double header, is my memory of it. But we would go to those games, right? My dad he loved going to a baseball game. That's us. We get there early uh because at that point you could still get there and come into the ballpark and they'd be taking infield because they took infield before every game. So we we were watching those things. Yeah, but it's a doubleheader and nine-inning doubleheaders, yeah, yeah. So at the and Hank didn't play in game one. I don't even know if the Brewers won game one, doesn't matter. Game two, they're down four-two, I believe, after the eighth inning. So the Brewers bat in the eighth inning, down four two, and they don't score. And dad says, Let's go. Okay, so mom never argued with dad. Shirley never said to Bob, No, we're gonna stay. That didn't fly. No, that didn't fly. Um, so Shirley didn't say anything. 12-year-old Mike knew better. I wasn't gonna say anything. And you know, to be fair, it'd have been a long time. At 12 years old, I was probably done too. Yeah, we're good. Yeah. So we go. Um, get out of the county stating park parking lot and go up, you know, uh, on highway 41, pass the zoo interchange, going north. Um, and the Brewers scored two times in the bottom of the ninth to send it to extra innings. So now we're north of the of the metro area in between, you know, uh Milwaukee and Fond du Lac in the bottom of the 10th inning. When Hank Aaron hits a walk-off home run, and the Brew 5-4. And we're in a car. We were there. We just before the show started, we listened to Bob Eucher's call.

SPEAKER_01 19:47

Did you hear that call in the in the car? Yes. Yes, I I mean to be fair, yeah, way to go, dad. But but but to be fair to dad, uh-huh, the call was better. Oh, the call is great. The call was better than being there in person in some regards. I know, I know. You could have said you saw 74. There's nothing like that. But the call was oh, the call's awesome. Um, but it was like a fan call in it, you know, like he was thinking the level of excitement was undescribed.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Oh, and and Hank and Yuke were just great friends. Um, they were great friends. They had a uh a time on the field together, and then you know Bob Yuke's calling his. Yeah, and he and he so he got the last two, and they were talking about it on the radio the other night. That when they moved from County Stadium to Miller Park, all of the audio, the real-to-reel audio tapes were in some storage unit at County Stadium, yeah. And they're all real to real, they're they're actual tapes, right? It was 1970s, uh vintage era. Yeah. Um, and somebody threw them away. No, they don't exist, so I don't know where that call comes from, but the actual WTMJ, uh, the rights holder, I don't they don't have them.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

What the hell does stuff like this happen?

SPEAKER_02 21:13

Yeah, they don't have them. Somebody, somebody that got rid of them. They talked about it on the radio the other day.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

That's isn't that crazy? Oh, it's like in this happen. My dad tells a story. Half of America's dads tell this story. It's like when they purged the attic and all your rookie cards were thrown out, you know, or all your comic book series ones were thrown through episode, you know, that that shit happened way too often. But you would think, in the case of a professional baseball team, you you wouldn't get rid of them.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

They did. Um, also, like speaking of that, uh another little one off. I told this story to to our friends Greg and Elaine over the weekend. He he had asked, Was I a baseball car guys kid? Well, of course I was, but I wasn't meticulous about. It yeah, you know, they were just in big the shoebox, yep, jammed in there. Nothing was um, you know, protected from the elements. So I don't know, 15, 20 years ago, I sent my to my buddy John. Um, he was big into it and it had kind of resurged. And uh I said, I got a couple of boxes. Why don't I just send them to you? You tell me if there's anything, because he enjoyed that part of it. Tell me if there's anything of value in there, and then you know, just sell them. Yeah, I just sell them, yeah. So I did, and he uh he sends me a picture back. He goes, This one would have been worth something. It was a rookie Lou Alcinder card with the bucks that Mike crossed out and wrote Karim Abdul Jabbar.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

You did rightfully so, because it hurts less when you act like it was somebody else instead of your double.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

It was somebody else, it was uh you know, a nine-year-old kid in Appleton who looked at that card. Oh, Lou Alcinder changed his name. Magic marker, cross it out, it's unbelievable. And then in you know, fourth grade uh hand penmanship, Karim Abdul Jabbar. I probably spelled it wrong, probably didn't fit on one line. It was a $2,000 edit you made there. Yeah, well, uh, I didn't need the money at nine. Yeah, one could use it now. I had a one Warren Spawn rookie card that was just collected dust. So so this team now at 63 and 37, 100 games. So there's 62 games left in the season, and uh a really impressive the Cooper Pratt home run was great, the Joey Ortiz home run. Uh Andrew Vaughn had not hit a home run this year at American Family Field.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Ah, it's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

It's only his third home run. He hadn't played enough.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

His OPS is like 851. That's just that tells you.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

I I so I did this, uh I did this uh little homework assignment this morning. Um Tammy, our friend Tammy says, Oh my god. Um probably on my uh my Louell Cinder card. Yeah, Tammy, it's real. That happened. You dumb. Um so I did a little homework assignment this morning. I just looked at July.

SPEAKER_03 24:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

All right. So just July, and I get it, there's an all-star break in there. But all these guys I'm gonna talk about are essentially um in the you know 60, 50 to 60 at bat range. I transcribe one of them wrong, but it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

So who do you think is the leading hitter? This is the lineup I work from. Yelich, Churio, Terrain, Contreras, Mitchell, Vaughn, Bowers, Pratt, Ortiz, Freelick, and Lara. Yeah. Okay, so it's more than nine, it's like 11, but this is their rotation of lineup players other than Freelick, who's on the IL.

SPEAKER_03 24:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

Who do you think has the best batting average, just July only games?

SPEAKER_01 24:57

I Ortiz over the last 14 is batting 331. So he's in the conversation. Yeah. Um, he's third. Yeah, he's okay. So I would go, I would go Vaughn one.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

No, uh Garrett Mitchell has had a ridiculous J. He leads all of baseball and hits. Mitchell has hit 397 in the month of July. Yeah. Cooper Pratt is second in batting average, old gen stat at 313 and Ortiz at 288. Yeah. So the bottom of the barrel there from a batting average standpoint is actually this will surprise a lot of people. It was Freelick, 118, but I'll take him out of the mix. It's Contreras.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Yeah. Well, I would have guessed that for sure. That the five-game series with um St. Louis, he was he's nine for 54 in the month with three extra base hits.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Obviously, the one huge home run. He's got seven runs batted in. Three of them came on the one swing on Sunday. Yeah, he's hitting 167 with an OPS of 493 in July. Part of the reason why I'm sure Murph said, hey, let's get you a couple of days off.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

You know, they gave him obviously the he had the day off on Sunday when he hit the three-run homer in the ninth. Second lowest batting average of their regulars, if I take Freelick out of the mix, is Yelich at 186, but then Bowers at 190. Yeah, they got three regulars hitting below the Mendoza line in the month of July. And they're three, I mean, these are three core hitters. I know people are talking about Yelich in negative ways, and I get it, but don't don't stray. Contreras is also having a rotten month, and Jake Bowers, who's been so good, is hitting 190 this month. All right, so extra base hits. All right, Mitchell's gonna be your leader. Extra base hits. He he's then followed by Tarang. Yeah. Mitchell has 11. Tarang has 10. Yeah. And then Yelich, who I just said didn't hit him, but Yelich has seven extra base hits. Yeah. So he only has 11 hits in July, 11 for 59. Yeah, but seven of them are extra base hits, and he still managed seven runs of added in in an unproductive July. Yeah. So for those who say Yelich needs to sit, careful now, because he still produces. Um OPS is Mitchell is your leader at 1.092. I mean he's he's got an OPS this month of over one. Uh Ortiz is next, Pratt after that, and then Tarang. So your new hitters are starting to get it done. Yeah, certainly Pratt's buoyed by having a three-hit Sunday, including a home run. I get it. Um, or last night, rather. Monday, yeah. Yeah, Monday. That buoys all of his numbers that I did today. I didn't do that on purpose. He did it on purpose. Um, but Mitchell leads the team in hits, Tarang, then Pratt and Ortiz, and then Yelich in the month. So those are your top five hitters, and everybody's saying Yelich gotta get him, gotta sit him down, gotta get him out. Careful now. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's not doing what you need the DH to do, yeah. But overall, Yelich is not is not the issue. And what's what's really kind of remarkable to me is that in July, they're really good. And statistically, they're not, right? So I'm I was trying to look at what their record is in July. They won last night, so they're 11 and six in July, 11 and 6 in July, and I just listed your big hitters who aren't doing a damn thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Yeah, yeah. Well, we so I would say on Yeli, yeah, the the fan exhaustion with him would be there's not there's not been one point during this season that he's a guy that you kind of expect to at some point during the season to be over 300. That hadn't happened, yeah. Yeah, he's kind of consistently been, he's been there's certainly been times where he's been going better than others, and maybe was in that 260, 270 range. But generally speaking, you know, he's sort of been fourth or fifth in batting average on the on the team in that two, whatever, 240, 250, 260 range. So I think you know, Contreras gets a huge pass because even after a dog shit start to July, yeah, the guy's still one of the the top. So I think you know what I'm saying? I think I think I all right, I'll speak for myself. We as fans, the Jeff, the treadmill, I I give guys a pass when I see again things revert, like mean revert. Because I I'm like, I know they'll I know they're gonna come back and they've done their job. Adjacent to that discussion, I'm super excited. We talked about this last Tuesday. That six, seven, eight, nine, you know, but we need the ham and egg it. When you get into the playoffs, you got to do more than ham and egg it. Yeah. One one through nine have to contribute. Right, you know, I guess the bot, but in the regular season, just like last year's wonderful season, yeah, you need production out of the bottom of that lineup, and we're getting it right now.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

Yeah, and and I I don't know, about a month ago, maybe it was with you. I said that I thought that the Brewers' best offensive lineup would be Churio, Mitchell, and Lara in your outfield. Yeah. And now what we've found out along with that, because that's gonna be their lineup in most days. I think Bowers was in the outfield last night, but uh that's gonna be their lineup on most days is Churio, who's not had a I'll let me add him to the mix. His July, he's 14 of 64, that's 219. Yeah, he only has four extra base hits, yeah, and one home run and six runs batted in in July. His OPS in July is 618. Yeah, so your significant hitters are not being significant right now. So when we talked about runners in scoring position and the run scoring is down of late, it's those guys, and yet they're still 11 and 6 in the month, and their core hitters Yelich, Churio, Contreras, Bowers, none of them are hitting at a high level right now. So I I think it's it's to me really impressive. And then what we see, Joey Ortiz has found such a good rhythm. Yeah, you know, we we've all we're all pulling for him, right? Except for the people that like to hate. We're all pulling for him. Come on, Joey, come on, such a great defender. Just hit a little bit, yeah. And now he's hitting a lot of bit. Yeah, and Pratt has caught it a little bit. I think Lara is gonna be just fine. Luis Lara is gonna be really good. So we maybe a month and a half ago, we were talking about they've got to go get a bat, you know, that third base spot is killing them. And I haven't heard anybody, very few, yeah, talking about you got to go get an everyday bat. No, where would the everyday bat go?

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yeah, no, that the discussion, absolutely, the discussion, and I had this last night with my college roomies, is why won't Murph put the best nine on the field? You know, this is Wally's like, why is he not putting in, you know, in my which you you you've talked about, and and to be fair, it was discussed pretty significantly in the postgame last night. Sure. I don't think Dilly thinks they're putting the best nine on the field from an offensive standpoint.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

I'm gonna, I'm gonna you keep going. I'm gonna mark my best nine.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Yeah, and my my response to that is because there's two to three guys that have really strong competition and can't always get on the field. My follow-up to that statement was Murph, don't try to out psychology the greatest sports psychologist in pro sports right now. Murph is going to give guys opportunities to earn their turns. Murph is I don't think he has it in him, and thank goodness he doesn't, to let a guy get into a confidence hole. So it and I don't I I profess that we needed Bowers and Vaughn on the field in every single game. I don't feel that way in this moment in time, just weeks later after making that statement. So I do believe we get the best nine, even if the best nine isn't the same nine every night. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

All right, let me list 12. Let me add Hamilton back into the mix. Okay. Okay. I list these 12 position players, hitters, slash, because Yelich is not a position player. These are the 12 that you're working from. See if we agree on the same nine. Yelich, Churio, Tarang, Contreras, Mitchell, Vaughn, Bowers, Pratt, Ortiz, Freelick, Lara, Hamilton. I believe that's 12. Yep. These are my nine. Yep. And I I have one hesitation on this. These are my nine, not in a nine.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

You're hedging already? I am.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Not in a particular order. Bullshit. My nine guys, Churio, Tarang, Contreras, Mitchell, Vaughn, Bowers, Pratt, Ortiz, Lara. Of the 12, I leave out of my best nine today, Freelick on the I. L, Hamilton on the I. L, and Yelich. And I hesitate to not have Yelich in my order six days out of seven. Yeah. Because he it's still there. He's got a diminishing Vinny and I, your buddy Vinny, uh, Vinny and I have talked about this.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

Um, that age has him to a certain extent. You're not as hand quick. Yeah. The reaction aren't at reactions aren't as quick. So what he worked on a year ago, three years ago, he'd, you know, do all that extra work in the cage, and it could translate because physically it was still there. Yeah. Now it's minute, but I don't care who you are. At 33, 34, I don't know, Yelich. Is he 33?

SPEAKER_01 35:21

33.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

Um, somebody helped me on that.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

Um, it's not going to react the same way. He wouldn't be in my best nine. Was he in yours?

SPEAKER_01 35:32

He I by the way, just a quick you wouldn't. Would you list Sanchez as 13 in the event you wanted? It's not your best nine. It doesn't matter. I don't have to be able to do that. We know Sanchez. No, well, no, I know you don't. So you might as well not be in the in the list at all. Uh that's how I would have laid it out exactly.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

Did you not even your group include Yelitch? No, my group would not include Yelchel. So they wanted Bowers and uh Vaughn on in the lineup together. Yeah. On a regular basis. Yes. Uh Bowers has some. Well, Bowers is going to be in there for me all the time. And he he's hit a little roadblock here, but uh, I think that will is short-lived. It's Vaughn's the question because he has positional limitations. So Bowers can play the corner outfield or be at first base, or you can DH him. Vaughn is at first base, or you can DH him. Yeah. Yelich is a DH only. Only. So there are issues when you're deciding who are our nine best bats because bats also have to have a position, including Yelich. And his is going to be the DH. Yeah. So when he DH's, now you're limited on Vaughn. Yeah. Because he's a one-position guy. Bowers is a three-position guy, gives you luxury. Ortiz, any anywhere in the infield, Pratt. He's going to shortstop, but he can play other positions in the infield. David Hamilton.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

Um so you're so Bowers in your scenario, and I I'll call it our scenario. Bowers or Vaughn are DHs, they're not field players because Lara's got right field, which means Bowers can't be in the field unless he's playing first. Is that how you see it?

SPEAKER_02 37:25

No, but I do think that there are going to be nights off for Lara, and there are going to be nights off for but Lara was in your top nine, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:31

He was. So if Lara's in your top nine, Vaughn and Bowers in the top nine, either Bowers or Vaughn are your DH in that scenario. Which would make sense.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

The nine I listed did not have Yelich. Yeah. That's why I circled Yelich as my nine and a half guy. Yeah. Because I don't think he's leaving the lineup. If we're just going to be realistic rather than, you know, hey, these are your nine best. Yeah. The organization is not to a point where Yelich isn't your DH.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

What about a bat off the bench for Yelich? I mean, we're talking right now what we are talking about, and I think we need to make this clear. Yeah. What I'm talking about is playoff baseball. Sure. I don't give a shit over the next 62 games because we're going to put a great lineup out there. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to win enough games to get to where we need to get to. I'm talking about, and maybe I'm even talking about NLCS. I'm talking about when we are facing nothing but quality pitching and we can't afford it.

SPEAKER_02 38:27

You know, when I was going through the stats earlier, talking about just July only. Most hits, most extra base hits, best average RBIs and OPS. In there, Yelich is fifth in hits with 11. Somebody goes, well, can't be real. Well, it is. It's got 11 hits in July. Mitchell has 25, Tarang 17, Pratt and Ortiz 15 each. Yelich is next at 11. Most extra base hits. Mitchell has 11. Yeah. Tarang has 10. Yelich has seven.

unknown 38:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

And that's what Yelich does. Runs batted in. Tarang 13. Mitchell 10. Bowers 9. Ortiz, Yelich, and Contreras 7. Yeah. So the only spots he's not listed here are OPS and batting average. Yeah. So it becomes it, it certainly is somewhat of a dilemma. It's a good dilemma. It will be uh even more of a dilemma when Hamilton gets healthy because the manager likes him a lot because of the speed element. And he also had become of late a really good hitter. He's getting on base. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

I mean, he was any anyway on base. He was getting on base. We we've talked about the last couple playoff exits. I mean, we don't let's not go down this rabbit hole right now. Yeah. Let's let's look at Yelich Yelich's Yelich has completely disappeared at the worst moment. I'm not talking 2018. I'm talking 2025, 2023.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

Yeah, in uh sense the kneecap, his playoff um production has been zero.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

So it we can't you you cannot continue to do the same thing and expect different results. He's got he either comes in hot and stays high, or his leash is so short.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Do you you think there's a realistic scenario that when you play an October game in the NL divisional round, yeah, that Yelich is not in your a healthy stretch from your lineup?

SPEAKER_01 40:29

Dude, I think there's I don't maybe not the they're just not the same pressure, not that I'm taking for granted winning that series. There's not as much pressure in that series. I think the moment he like loses himself. Some of the shit he swung at, and maybe it's just because the pitching is so damn good.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

There's my passionate fan coming out here. Um, by the way, if and it doesn't, but today the Brewers would be the one seed. Yeah. Which, oh, by the way, means that you would get the winner of the Cubs Philadelphia seed.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

Anything we do right now, we get the it was like that when we were the two seed, and then games changed. And well, I don't want that by the way, I don't want the Phillies right now. I don't want that smoke. There are they're gonna be a handful if they keep this going.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

Last week it was you would get the winner of the Braves Marlin as the two seed. Yeah. Now, as the one seed, you get the winner of the Phillies in the Cups. There's just no basically, there's no Easy. There's no bargain. No easy. But we do know this that they wouldn't be opposite the Dodgers until the National League Championship series because they'd be the one and two seed as it sits now. That's how we want it to go. And they get a little cushion between them and the Atlanta Braves. Yeah, I think it's a four and a half game cushion.

SPEAKER_01 41:46

We with let's take a second here. To your point, and it was valid. We're not no no one out there in Fanville is screaming for a hard-hitting third baseman. And if they are, they're not paying attention. Yeah, fine. Um, we I we cannot the life is a game of probabilities. That's why places like Pato exist. Uh we cannot go into the postseason with the arms that they're in shape. And I know we're not getting the school, I know we're not getting scoobo.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

We've really Vinny Rettino, your boy, was on yesterday. He's in on he's in on the scoobal deal. He doesn't like Joe Ryan, he doesn't uh believe in Michael Waka. Yeah, he he is a I want Scooby.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

I just don't think Detroit's gonna deal him.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

Detroit likely isn't gonna deal with that. The problem with Detroit is they're winning. And uh and the American League is so shitty that Detroit having won seven of their last 10 and winning last night in the wild card standings in the American League. Detroit is four and a half back, but they're behind Texas. Well, they're behind Boston, who's won 14 in a row, 14. Boston is the last wild card right now. Texas is a game and a half out, Baltimore's three out, Minnesota's three out, Houston and Detroit are both four and a half out. But if we've got 13 days to the trade deadline, if in the next 10 Detroit goes seven and three again, they're not dealing anybody. No. If they go three and seven and they're seven and a half out in the wild card, Terek Scuble is going to be on somebody else's roster. Yeah, so a lot of that is in play. Cubs are the number one wild card. Uh the Phillies are a half game back of that. That matters. St. Louis, Miami, and Pittsburgh are tied for the third wild card. Pittsburgh. We helped them.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

Yeah, we did. We've helped them a couple times.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

All right, I want to shift gears for for a minute. I I asked this question in my pre-show uh post. The most, and I Didn't tip you off to this. The most important Green Bay Packers offensive player this year, not named Jordan Love. All right. So the most important Packers offensive player who doesn't play quarterback is.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

Yeah, I did see uh Tucker Kraft at the Charles Woodson tournament. He was looking at the case.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

Oh, there's I didn't lead you into name dropping at all. Um, so hold on, before we answer that. Um, so so hold on. Uh here we go. Camera one. Tread uh spent the weekend hobnobbing with the Hall of Famer and a Heisberg Trophy winner. Was it Gold Jacket there? No. Yeah, and defensive player of the year. Don't forget that. Hanging out with Charles Woodson. And all I said, back to camera one, all I said to Tread after this deal, okay, you're hanging out, hobnobbing, you're Mr. Cool, hanging with uh Chuck Woodson over the weekend, and not just like playing in an event of his, but actually getting time with him. I said, you know, we do a bourbon Friday. Chuck's got a bourbon. Uh we do a Super Fantousa year on. Did you book him?

SPEAKER_01 45:10

Kricket. I'll get him. Chuck's coming on. It's gonna be Bourbon Friday. Or Cinnamon Whiskey Thursday. He makes that too. Oh well. Uh I I think to answer your question, we'll get him on. Yeah. Okay. You heard it here. If I could go to my camera one, I would say I don't have to get him on. Promise I'll get him on. We only have two cameras. I'll get them on. I think it's Christian Watson. I think it's, I mean, I think it's but let me just throw this out there, and I'm not hedging. I think I think the unlikely candidate, guys like like Tom, and um backside protection specialist Jordan Morgan, right? Big, big, big spend on him in terms of first round a couple years ago. So I am a trenches guy. The game's won on the line, whether it be D, not just D-line or O-line, both lines. That's where it's won. Anybody that says anything differently has their head up their ass. Receivers don't have time to get open. Running backs can't run the ball if D-lines are good and O-lines suck. So I think it's fair to put an offensive lineman in there. And if you're gonna do that, it's got to be a left tackle, or it's got to be the guy you're paying the most money to on the line, which are the two guys I just named. That said, I am gonna go Watson. And for him to carry that torch and actually come through as the most important or most impactful offensive player. He one has to play 17 games in the regular season, not 14. And he two needs to stretch the field seven ways to stunning because Jaden Reed can go underneath all day long, and Golden is gonna be a Z guy that can catch the ball and run with it. It's Watson for me.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

The most important part of all of that's important, and I don't disagree with any of it. Um, I list four guys that I would pick from Tom, Kraft, Watson, Morgan. So we were right, they're looking at us. We're on the same spot. The the thing about Watson is to me, he's irreplaceable in their depth at wide receiver. Exactly. They don't, he's the one. Remember last year, there was a lot of talk at this time a year ago, and all the way through camp, and even to begin the season, the Packers don't have a number one. Yeah, who's the number one? And the the concept there was do you need a one? Yeah, you've got Romeo Dobbs, you've got Jaden Reed, you've got Christian Watson, you got Dontavian Wicks, do you need a one with that crew? And then you you and then you had um your rookie. Yeah, golden. I I keep on calling him Morgan. Uh so now I think, okay, so you've got Reed, Golden, Watson is your one, and there's more depth in that position, but to me, there's a clear delineation of who's one. And to me, it's Christian Watson. Yeah. And if Watson is your one, then he's gotta play. Yeah, he's gotta stay healthy. Some of that people go, well, you can't stay healthy. Well, sometimes the game doesn't allow for somebody to stay healthy, yeah. You know, and it's getting lucky. There, you can't change durability, you you you are you know, anyway. So my point is Watson has to be your one, yep, and he's got to play. He does. But to me, craft changed the way the season, but they were still productive without him. Yet I think he makes everybody around him better because you have to devote coverage to him.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

He he was on, if you look at what he was on pace to do, yeah. Guys like he was gonna be the best tight end. Guys like Pulp, yeah, in the league. He was gonna, it was a historic season on pace for historic season as it relates to Packer history, right? Paul Kaufman, you and I grew up watching him play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh autograph toolbox fan autograph, Packer fan autograph, where you'd go to the field and you'd I'd sit on Lynn Dickey's lap. That's uncomfortable. Um, sure it was. So, yeah, that in in the fall off, further to your point, the drop off, it they were productive after Tucker went out. But even though we have spent some reasonably high draft capital on tight ends over the last several years, including guys like Luke's Luke Musgrave, like who was gonna be the one and Tucker Krapp was gonna be your blocking tight end. And Luke, man, Luke, I love the name. My boy Luke, and you got to be better to get on that field, maybe in a two tight end set. Tucker also gives you what he can do in the running game is unbelievable. So I I will say this. I think we're both right picking Watson, but we're I I will personally say I'm I'm only sleeping on craft because I just expect him once he's back on the field. I just expect him to come in and be a big impact. The um he's gonna do hopefully what he was on track to do last year. So the there's not a this he's at that ceiling. We have not even sniffed Watson's ceiling, which is why I'm naming him. I mean, this is a guy that needs to catch 85 to 100 balls, 14 to 17 touchdowns, 1,300 yards. And anybody that says differently, that's what they see in him, and that's what we've seen at times.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

And he's a he is a uh he's a nightmare matchup because of his size and speed. Yeah, uh, and last year, at some point, he became a good catcher of the football. Paramount as a receiver, you've got to catch the football. Yeah, he he has always been an arm catcher, yeah. Uh his very first play in the NFL through his arms, not through his hands, right? Not through his hands, yeah, through his arms, so painful, right? This is perfect ball. Um, so he's better at that, but Golden, he's your first first round draft choice at the position in a millennia. Yeah, and he also has to make a quantum leap, which I like that show too, by the way. Yeah, as a kid growing up. Uh, I forget the actor's name, but that was actually that was actually a good show. Uh unbelievable. Golden, stay on target.

SPEAKER_01 51:46

Squirrel, stay on, stay on target here. Golden has to be a lot better. Oh, so why was it he will be? Let me let me ask you. Let me challenge you on that. And then also, I first I acknowledge you're right. Was it we saw you saw the electricity when he took that ball, yeah, that seven-yard catch and turned it into a bunch more, and everybody went, why in the hell aren't you throwing to this guy? So I don't think Golden was bad because it dropped passes. I don't think Golden was bad because yards after catch. Yeah, I think Golden was bad because he didn't get any fucking balls thrown his way. So was his route running bad? Yeah. Where was he bad?

SPEAKER_02 52:24

Okay, so you know how reputations are earned. You know, somebody say, Well, he got a bad rep. Well, why does he have a bad rep? Was he dropping balls in practice? He was not a good practice player, yeah. So you earn everybody like with Jackson, my Jackson would come home and go, you know, as a sophomore junior in high school basketball, and go, I just I I still don't figure out why I'm not on the court more. Well, the answer is they don't keep coaches, don't not put you out there if you're better. Yeah, but you can't just say, I'll be better in the game. You've got to be better when when they work hard on Wednesday and Thursday and they work hard in training camp. He's got a he's got a little bit the knock though, yeah. He they they didn't trust him, he wasn't doing the right things, he didn't have enough knowledge. I'm working on secondhand here, right? Yeah, but you're second hand's kind of first hand. He he he was not good enough at the elements you've got to be good enough at. When a receiver runs the wrong route by a yard, yeah, the quarterback throws an interception every time. Yes, yeah, right. So when we look at interceptions thrown by quarterbacks inside the game, they'll tell you that the quarterback didn't throw that interception, the receiver did. Yeah, because there's a route that has to go 10 yards or nine yards before the move, the slant starts or the outbreak starts. Yeah, and when that receiver, because of where the defensive back is positioned, cuts that route at seven yards, yeah, that's an interception and many times a pick six. Yeah. So I think that Golden didn't earn to be out there athletically, skill-wise, 100%. But I think that's the part of his game that will make a difference. We talk about that shit quarterback. We talk about that great quarterback in Chicago who made those steps last year, right? Yeah, the reason why it wasn't very good, some people blame the coaches the year before. Yeah, well, that was on him too, yeah. Right? We talk about the who I think is a shit quarterback in Minnesota, Kyler Murray. The reason he's in Minnesota and available is because he didn't put the work in in Arizona, yeah. So I don't know if Golden didn't put in the work or it just didn't take.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

I bet he put the work in. I don't think it. I mean, I'm not I'm not working off even I don't have second hand. We gotta think about the program he came out of, which is Notre Dame. I I Texas, Texas, excuse me. I I don't think he didn't understand a pro-style offense coming out of Texas. Sure. I I don't so but maybe not, but I do by the fact that when a quarterback doesn't trust, we saw this all the time with Aaron Rodgers, and and Aaron was right and the fans were wrong.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

And and I would I would argue this uh you know Jordan Love learned from Aaron, but I think he does it differently, yeah. But I would argue that uh Matthew Golden wouldn't would have been on the fill field even less last year, yeah, if Aaron Rodgers was the quarterback. Yeah, I agree. Because if you couldn't earn his trust, yeah, you didn't see the rotation.

SPEAKER_01 55:35

No, not at all, especially in a rotation as deep as a couple of things. Yeah, they were really deep last year. It's not as deep this year, right? And so I love that consolidation uh at that position. I love that concentration at that position because that I if I'm Jordan Love, I need I need the right th the right three guys out of four every single Sunday. Not the right three guys out of six.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

Let me let me let me finish the show because we look at that. We we 57 minutes feels like uh like we just started. Um, and I'm pretty consistent on being on the hour. Tonight we're we're going to a little dive bar. You know, I know that uh the radio group I used to work with used to do a dive bar review that John Coomb was big on. Um, we're going to a dive bar called Bussies uh on North Sherman in Madison. There's a group of eight of us. Well, at least I think it's eight. Some of these Jabrosos won't show up until later. I got a job. I got a I'm a surgeon. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Surgeons, attorneys, what's like, you know, big timers. Um, so we're going there and then we're going to uh Warner Park, the duck pond, for a Madison uh for a Mallard's game. And uh we get some free drink and food there. Uh so tonight's an Uber night. Here's here's uh public service announcement.

SPEAKER_03 57:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

Uh I'm close enough within a mile and a half. I mean, I could walk it. You could walk it. Uh or I, you know, get in somebody's Uber and add a stop. I'll Benmo you. Uh but we're tonight's uh kind of a fun night. We uh we usually we've done this many times at Brewers Games. This group, you that you're uh indoctrinate indoctrinated is the word, into tonight. Uh Courtney's not here because he's golfing somewhere, some like same bad.

SPEAKER_01 57:30

Of course he is. Unbelievable. The most beautiful place on the planet. Taking pictures all morning long. I'm like, well, you know what? Put your phone down and pick your driver up, you bozo. Tell me your score. Yeah, well, show me the card. It'll be 83 regardless. Yeah, yeah. Hey, three three putts. I was by the way, I was hunting on 79 at Mammoth Dudes. So you you played.

SPEAKER_02 57:53

Where did you play in Woodson's outing last week?

SPEAKER_01 57:55

We played at Thornberry Creek. Thornberry Creek. What was the winning score in the four-person scramble? So, yeah, yeah. Someone, there were two minus 20s, and somebody clips that with a 21 under.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

Okay, so think of a 21 under for 18 holes. Listen, it I mean, really good golfers can turn um, you know, you're gonna play one set of T's forward, probably. So get a ball. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:18

You weren't 6,400 yards, maybe, but there wasn't a par there, was not a par 400, 360 yards. Continue.

SPEAKER_02 58:24

Right. So and and that the the winning group, I'm not gonna call them out by name, but you know, they got called out. Whatever. So they what'd they do on the par fours? How many eagles on par fours?

SPEAKER_01 58:35

So they were eight under on the par fives. Yeah. And then they needed to carry, obviously, they needed 13 more jokes. They allegedly had three eagles on the par fours.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

Okay, so you only unless you hold shit. Yeah, thank you. Unless you hold out from the fairway, you'd have to have driven the other two par fours or right next to them and chipped in again. Four players, 21 under, unless their unless their collective handicap of the four players is five. Yeah. Right. So you get uh three ones and a two. Yeah.

unknown 59:15

Five.

SPEAKER_02 59:16

You get three ones and a two on their handicap. Yeah. Now we're talking about, I mean, there's a level of golf there that is pretty damn good. Yeah. Most groups, most foursoms in an outing like that aren't gonna be a collective handicap of five. No, they're gonna get the double digits in their collective handicaps. I'm a good golfer, I'm an eight.

SPEAKER_03 59:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:36

Um, you I don't know what you are if you carry a handicap. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:40

I'm I bogey golf. I did shoot 89 the day before, but but I'm an 18. Tough course. That in that, and maybe index maybe index matters more than handicap. I made so on that day, I know people love uh when you're gonna go. I missed one fairway, so which meant that everybody else could swing away. Just a nice left to right, 210, 220, like a 70-year-old. I missed one fairway, which meant me. I hit two of the four greens and gave us decent putts on par threes. And I say this because this is on here. We go, he's going to camera one. And wait, I hit three putts over 15 feet, and we still were. I bring that up to illustrate a point. He's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:23

What they can still hear you on my microphone.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:28

That's what is settle down there. Um, we were 14 under with the bogey golfer contributing that much, which which makes it that much more of a bullshit deal that someone was 21 under.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

So so here's my message to golfers. This is it don't cheat. No, yeah. Listen, we you I've played enough of these. There are some times when you're we're all drunk, and now the the drunk scorecard keeping happens, right? Oh, hey, Willie, hit that putt again. Yeah, let's call that good. Yeah, um, but this is an event that actually has some pretty pretty luxurious prizing. Yeah, that's right. That's what stop fucking cheating. Yeah, right writing down 21 under par for 18 holes in a four-person scramble that I'm gonna assume didn't have mulligans. Yeah, because as soon as you bring mulligans into play, then people cheat their ass off on mulligans. There are more mulligans than our team, I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:32

There were four putts, only four puts.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:34

There's no mulligans. If you're writing down 21 under par in a four-person scramble, playing 64, 6,500 yards, yeah, either your collective handicap is five or less, yeah, or you've cheated.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

Yeah. You're also not getting three highly makeable Eagle or four highly makeable Eagle putts in the par fives, no matter what. And one of the par fives is 585 90. So if you're 310 off, you're 320 off, now you're a good scratch golfer who's long. Maybe he has a five wood in his hand, doesn't have a three-iron in his hand from from 260.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

There are other par fives that are gonna be, you know, 500 yards. And those you wheagle, and then you're gonna hit a six, uh, seven iron, eight iron, some ten to nine iron in on your second. But you better you better hit it to a you better be within ten feet. Cheaters never prosper. I've heard that. Cheaters never prosper. Now we're over. Yeah, it's okay. I got I got us into golf late, which was a mistake because then we had to listen to you talk about fairways that you hit and puts that you made. So many fairways, so many greens and reg. All right, we're going to the Mallard's game tonight. Uh, we're gonna come back into listen. I here here's a here's a rub. I'm supposed to do a brew daily after the brewers game tonight. Yeah, could be an issue.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

No way. I'll I'll hold your I'll hold your beer. No, I'll hold your beer and your phone. Um and I'll keep I'll stay silent.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

Yeah, not a chance. Wait, I'm just gonna turn the chance. My height's hammered. We're gone. Uh, we'll be back in. Maybe a brood daily. I there's got to be a brood daily. I'm committed to it. So a brood daily tonight might be um slightly inebriated brood daily. Best kind. Well, I don't know, is it? Those are always hard for me. Uh, and then back in here tomorrow. I don't know who my guest is tomorrow, but I'll figure it out. I'll let you know. Uh, thanks for being here. Good job, Tread. And uh back in tomorrow. Always appreciate you as part of this show. It is brood daily late tonight. I love Monday. Back with you tomorrow morning. Have a great guest of you.