What A Night For A Knight

Welcome to the first episode of The Scooby Zone, and be prepared for a long night as we watch "What a Night for a Knight" the very first episode of Scooby-Doo, Where are You? What amazing set of skills does Shaggy show off? What movie does Scooby have to watch twice? And which character isn't even given a name in this episode? All this and more await inside the Scooby Zone.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello, and welcome to the Scooby-Zone, the podcast where monsters send us screaming as we watch an episode of Scooby-Doo Media. I'm Rob. And I'm Katie. And today we'll be watching What a Night for a Night. It is episode one of Scooby-Doo Where Are You? Being the first episode, let's talk a little bit about the history of Scooby itself, um, our history and experience with the franchise, and just why it is that Scooby is so great. Scooby-Doo uh debuted September 13th, 1969, um, created by Joe Ruby and Ken Spears for the Hannah Barbera production to offer a non-violent, mystery-focused Saturday morning entertainment experience um that was heavily influenced by 1960s youth culture and the sitcom The Many Loves of Dobby Gillis. Um and again, you know, it's been around since 1969, and here we are recording this in 2020. Um so almost 60 years of Scooby.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

We're getting there.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

You know, that's gotta be what uh 420 in dog years, gotta be something like that, yeah. Man. Um, but anyways, like you know, um going on to our experiences with Scooby, it's like he's always been around.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Yes, he's always been around. There was never not a time when there wasn't anything Scooby-Doo. We always had him around.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

Yeah, um, being in our 30s, like almost half the age of Scooby, it's like it's so hard for us to imagine what it was with you know, be like without Scooby. And uh I think that is one part of where a lot of our love comes from, you know. It was on. Um, it was something our uh uh parents and other family members were able to grow up with, in which they would be able to introduce us and uh help foster and cultivate this admiration of this cowardly talking great Dane. And you know, Scooby throughout the years, he's inspired so many spin-offs. Well, not necessarily spin-offs, but like offshoots from the same production company where it's following all the same formula, we're like, you know, um jabberjaw is often cited as being one speed bug buggy. Um, you know, those classic type of cartoons where it's, you know, group of teenagers plus talking thing that doesn't normally talk, you know, solving mysteries or getting involved with something to stop criminals, and really Scooby is the one that keeps making new content. Yes. In a in a sense, I it's been a while since we've seen something new officially from Warner Brothers about Scooby, but there's been talks of Netflix working on a live-action adaptation or uh some c uh talk about a anime-styled Scooby-Doo show.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Um don't quite know a hundred percent how accurate a lot of that information is. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not following it all very closely. I'll be happy to see more Scooby content, but um I don't wanna ruin my initial going on going into it um by diving deep into a lot of the production stuff now. I mean I like I like finding out a lot of production history on stuff, but a lot of the times I will dive more into that after a thing has been released, before it before diving in while it's being worked on, as to not spoil some of the experience for me. Um but I think Scooby has stood the better part of sixty years almost by adapting. Yeah, you know, adapting, constantly restructuring itself, avoiding the oversaturation of its you know, genre. You know, because yeah, a lot of those cookie-cutter formula shows often fall into a habit where the first time we get a show, you know, in that format, it does well. And then we get another one, and you know, it still does well. But like, okay, it's starting to feel a bit of you know familiar, but then and then when you get like another like a third, a fourth, a fifth, it's like each one it starts to feel more like a drag. Because it's all the same. But with Scooby, you know, we had the 25 episodes of Scooby-Doo Where Are You? Yes. Then we got the new Scooby movies, which doubled the episode length, added in a famous guest star, whether it be a famous person like Jerry Reed or Don Knott's Sandy Duncan, Sonny and Cher, yeah, two famous popular fictional characters like Batman and Robin, Speed Buggy, Josie and the Pussycats, Globetrotters. Globetrotters.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

I wasn't gonna say that one.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

Yeah. Um for clarification, yes, we do know the Globetrotters are an actual basketball team. Um we will have to fact check this. We did not dive into looking this up before recording. Um, so if any of you want to look it up and confirm this for us, great. Yes. I'm sure we will probably do this as well and we will get back to you on when we find out. Um personally, I think that there may have been a Globetrotter Hanna-Barbera cartoon going on at the time that I don't think had any actual involvement from the Globetrotter basketball team with it. Um so that is why Globetrotters is kind of there on that side of the list. Um much like how, you know, the Batman and Robin that show up are heavily inspired from the Hanna Barbera Super Friends cartoon. You know, Hanna Barbera did an Adams Family cartoon. I think they did an actual full I dream of Jeannie cartoon. Um obviously they did Speed Buggy, Josie, and the Pussycats. Like Hanna Barbera were big with the animation in this era.

SPEAKER_01 8:26

Yeah, they were pretty good with that.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

So um a lot of those fictional adaptations of those characters are heavily inspired by what Hanna Barbera was already doing with them, which obviously made it easier to bring them to Scooby. Um, but and so after the new Scooby movies, you know, we kind of went back to basics with the Scooby-Doo show. From there, we switched it up. We added Scrappy-Doo in, you know, Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo, in which they further switched it up by they cut half the group, they cut episodes into different short segments of just Shaggy, Scooby, and Scrappy getting into whatever hijinks. Um after a bit of time of that, they brought Daphne back and slowly integrated a couple of the more traditional mysteries in, but still kept the segments. Then we get the 13 ghosts of Scooby-Doo, which was you know, Scooby's real dive into like realnatural supernatural elements. There were some in like the segments of stuff, but like this was in more serialized format. Um whereas previously it was all you know non-connected.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Um after that, you know, they shift gears again, they bring Daphne and Fred back, ditch scrappy, age them down to kids. Um putting it setting the show in almost like a 50s era type setting, which felt fitting considering you know Scooby's was late 60s.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

And you know, you've got a pup named Scooby-Doo, you know, that gains all kids and you know, it was very fun and enjoyable, like over the top of the animation, like very fourth wall breaking.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Um, you know, then from that after that, like, we're on a hiatus for a couple of years.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

You know, they reinvent things, you know, with some direct-to-video movies with real monsters, and almost giving it like a I don't want to say a mature tone for the older audience, but like it had that like you could tell it was made more in mind, like as a love letter to the older fans, yep. But also still somewhat tame enough for some of the younger viewers. Yeah. And then we get a live-action adaptation, you know, then we get what's new, Scooby-Doo, which is honestly, in my opinion, just Scooby-Doo Where Are You, but in a newer modern, a more modern time, yeah, you know, being the early 2000s. And, you know, after that, then we again ditch, Velma, Fred, Daphne, just focusing on Shaggy and Scooby, and just whatever hijinks they decide to get into. Um I haven't watched a lot of the I've seen like maybe an episode or two um with my kids having it on. I don't know 100% all what's going on. Um, so it'll be interesting when we get there. So I'm not gonna fill you guys with some false information there of what's going on. But then after that, we get Mystery Incorporated, which again, straightforward mysteries, but also adds in a serialized, overarching mystery that goes through the entire show. Then we've got the cool Scooby-Doo, in which it's pretty much the same, regular Scooby-Doo formula, just worse off animation style, in my opinion. Um, but Daphne's doing weird gimmicks all the time. Yes, definitely. It's almost sometimes it almost feels like it's a soft reboot of Scooby-Doo, but not quite there. It's interesting to say the least. Um and then from there we go back to Scooby-Doo and Guess Who, where we're now back to having guest appearances from more modern day recognizable figures, such as Bill Nye, the science guy, and Flash and Wonder Woman expanding on Scooby's strange connection to the DC universe.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

Yeah, that is kind of weird.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Um We just won't talk about Velma right now.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

We will not be talking about that.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

We'll see how we feel closer to getting to that. But right now, let's not talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

Nope. No talking about it.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

So um I think from there, um like to point out that we do have an email address that you guys can email us with questions you might have, whatever interesting Scooby facts or whatever facts really you want to tell us about. Our email address is ScoobyZonepodcast at gmail.com. Um So from there, let's split up game, go watch the episodes. Um All episodes of Scooby-Doo Where Are You are available on DVD and Blu-ray. So we're gonna go watch the episode, look for some clues, and we'll be right back. And we're back. That was what a night for eight, and what a night it was.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Definitely was an interesting night. Let's just leave it at that.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

So uh we'll go ahead and we'll start from the beginning and recap the episode. Yep, do that for all of those who did not watch along. Uh, but honestly, you really should if you can, because definitely should. This is just one great cartoon.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

It is a very good cartoon, one of the best.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

So, first, cannot get over just how great the title card is for this episode and also for the next episode. Right. Um, you know, being the first two, I believe, in production, the title cards look like what you'd find on like either a comic book or on like a children's book.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Uh um that for this one in particular, you just have a still of the black knight ghost in the crate with Shaggy and Scooby like peering off from the side of it up at the black knight ghost. Um after next week's episode um with the ghost of Captain Cutler.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

That then just goes to a generic kind of background with an animation loop of mystery ink running.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

Which isn't necessarily bad. No, it's not, but it's not as exciting to look at as all of these the uh as these two where it's unique and different, really showcasing the monster of the week.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

Right. They should have kept I feel like they should have kept doing that because that was a cool thing, like this is what it actually looks without even like seeing a trailer or anything of it, you'd know what it looks like just by seeing the title card. And I wish they would have been doing that because then that would have been cool. Oh, this is what the monster looks like for the week. You know, that would have been kind of cool for the fans.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

Um, and uh before we get into the actual episode, like the voice cast. I want you know, this was an amazing voice cast for this show.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

Um, you know, we've got the great uh Don Messick, uh the original voice of Scooby-Doo, who's sadly no longer with us. No, you know, the amazingly talented Casey Kasem.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

Oh, yeah, very, very, very talented.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

In my opinion, the the definitive voice of Shaggy. Yes. Most definitely. You know, it's not the same without him around either. Um you know, props to Matthew Lillard for taking over for him when he did. But you cannot. That's like I see anything with Shaggy, like in a comic book or whatnot, like it's Kasim's voice that I hear. Um you know, two talented voice actors for this show that I don't think will truly ever be topped.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

I don't think so either.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Um rounding out the rest of the game, we've got Nicole Jaffey as Velma, uh Stefana Stefiana Christofferson as Daphne, and Frank Welker as in this episode some unnamed blonde guy.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

Unnamed blonde guy. Because he doesn't even get a name in this guy.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Never once do they actually give Fred's name in this episode.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

And it's true. Nobody we don't know his name for the first episode.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Um but Frank Welker, like, he's voiced Fred in practically everything. I think the only things he doesn't are a pup named Scooby-Doo. Yep. Uh just because of the age of the game. Although we do still have Casey Kaesum doing Shaggy for that. Well, it's Casey Kaesum, which is um, but then um obviously the live-action theatrical films and the live-action Cartoon Network films, but then it's really just the theatrical movie Scoob.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

And I believe Velma that he doesn't.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Yeah, that probably makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

Um, everything else I'm pretty sure he has done the voice of Fred in it.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Yeah, he's been in it for a long time. Since the beginning, practically he's been in it.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

In it makes you wonder who's done more episodes.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Frank Welker or Casey Caseum.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

That is true.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

And the reason why it's interesting to think about is there's a stretch in the entire 1980s, pretty much, where you have Shaggy around.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Right.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

But you only have Fred and only a handful of guest appearances.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

Because shortly after Scrappy comes into the picture, everyone kind of disappears except Shaggy. Except Shaggy. And then Daphne comes back. Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

So that'll be interesting to look up.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

It would be.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Um, but anyways, going back to the episode, we start with the image of a pickup truck driving, carrying a crate that says to be delivered to Professor Hyde White. When the crate opens up and out comes a suit of armor, and we cut to black shortly after we see the black knight sitting up from getting seeing him in the back window of the pickup truck. Makes you wonder, how did the driver not notice that in the rear view mirror?

SPEAKER_01 21:22

That is a very good question. I wouldn't have to do it.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Is he not checking his mirrors? Like that's kind of a safety hazard. Oh, how did he get his license? Especially when we later find out that the driver of the truck is Professor Hyde White, who's from England.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

You know? Clearly he knows he's to be driving on the correct side of the road here. Even though we don't actually have a name for where we are.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Um but moving forward, screen cuts to black. We then Cut to Shaggy and Scooby are walking home from the movies.

SPEAKER_02 22:04

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Because Scooby had just had to see the movie star Dog Ranger of the North Woods twice. When they hear a noise, Shaggy has Scooby look in the bush for the noise, and we get the first feud with an animal of Scooby where he kind of picks a fight with a frog. He puts his head in the bush, he pulls it out, and there's a frog sitting on his nose. It just jumps off like it does, and Scooby just chases after it.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

And barking. He was barking with the floor.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

Barking at it, in which he then runs into the truck that's just sitting there, where they find the black knight armor sitting in the driver's seat.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 22:52

When the head just rolls off.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

Rolls off somehow. You know?

SPEAKER_00 22:57

That's I guess that's one way to lose your head.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

I guess it is, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 23:02

They get in touch with the rest of the game, Daphne Velma, unnamed blonde guy.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

And we just found up in the show. You look good for the picture.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Okay, we'll stop with that. We'll call him by his name Fred, even though they don't in the episode.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

But yeah, we'll give him Grace and give him his name back.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Yeah. Um, you know, Shaggy's explaining that they found this suit of armor driving the truck. You know, maybe he went out for the night. And they read on the crate to be delivered to Professor Hyde White. And there's another shipping slip on the ground on on which it says that they are to take the crate to the museum.

SPEAKER_02 23:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

That's where Professor Hyde White was going to take it to.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

So they take it the rest of the way, and when they get there, the museum curator thanks them, but wishes that they hadn't, and tells them the story of how when the full moon casts its glow on the suit of armor, the black knight comes to life. As the curator is telling them this, Scooby wanders off like he does, finds a pair of funny-looking glasses on a Chinese lion statue, and just takes them.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Just walks off with them. Nothing too. Whatever.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Just a little bit of petty theft, you know, from a dog. Nothing too major.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

No, definitely not.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Um the game leaves and calls Scooby. And so he's in the back of the van with the glasses, and Velma complains how the mystery has her baffled. And Shaky's like, Well, yeah, well, it's got me hungry.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

When do we eat?

SPEAKER_00 24:57

Scooby pops up and they notice the glasses, and instead of going to get food, they go to the library to look up the glasses in what I assume is an encyclopedia.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

I would assume.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

In which it's they find that those glasses are mostly used for jewelry um inspecting. Because it's a special type of magnifying glass.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Um, but it's also used by archaeologists, and they are primarily used in England, in which they put two and two together and figure that they probably belong to Professor Hyde White. They go back to the museum in the middle of the night, and after trying to open the back door, in which the old Fred remarks that it's locked up tighter than a drum. Which, you know, drummers know that drums are usually locked pretty tight.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

They decide to try to go in through an open window. They get the ladder out of the mystery machine.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

It's not tall enough.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

They break some OSHA requirements in which they put the ladder on the vehicle jack. Which does not look like it's very sturdy or safe. They jack it up while Shaggy's on the ladder.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Mm-hmm. Yep. What could go wrong? What could possibly go wrong?

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Which again is not safe.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Your safety concerns.

SPEAKER_00 26:34

It's still too short.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Daphne remarks, it's okay. Shaggy is the swinginess gymnast in school. And so then Shaggy expertly commits some breaking and entering. Like, no, like he enters in the window and he breaks a ton of stuff on his way down. If that's not expertise in breaking and entering, I don't know what is.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

He's the expert, remember?

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Um so yes, after the comically loud crashing sounds of Shaggy just running into stuff. Which to be clear, the height of the window that he's in, it would be a couple of floors for him to walk down to open to that precise door. Right. Without a map, how Shaggy get into that door in a timely manner.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

It's goofy logic, it doesn't have to make sense, alright?

SPEAKER_00 27:37

Um he lets the he lets the rest of the game in and they proceed to split up. Fred and Daphne go one way, and we don't see him again for a while.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

I thought it was the unnamed blonde.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

But we gave him his name back.

unknown 27:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Um and Velma and Shagey go another way with Scooby standing guard. Scooby doesn't want to stand guard, so they offer him a Scooby Snack. And Scooby already expertly bribes himself into two Scooby Snacks.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

Well, why wouldn't he? He's got to do it.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

You know, I thought for sure it would be a while before we see Scooby starting to haggle for Scooby Snacks.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

Nope. No, right away, right off the bat. Episode one, guys.

unknown 28:26

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Well, he doesn't want to stay on guard. He's like, I gotta have more than one to make it worth my while here. Come on now.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Right? Um, after a while of Scooby standing guard, he gets frightened, like he does.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

Bolts after Velma and Shaggy, in which, you know, he tackles Shaggy.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

Obviously.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

And, you know, Shaggy's like, okay, Scoob, you can come with us.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

As they're walking, Velma and Scooby stop and poke their head into a doorway, and Shaggy just walks right past them.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

That was that much.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

And then Velma exclaims that they lost Shaggy. Like, no, Velma. No, like you guys stopped right in front of Shaggy. He kept walking.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

He lost you guys.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

How Shagy didn't notice you guys stopping is ridiculous. Because you didn't walk through, like you're not that far ahead that you walk through the door. Like he stopped at the door.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

And then he just kept going. I'm like a point of it. What?

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Um, so we're, you know, we're following Velma and Scooby. Scooby being scared. He's got his teeth chattering. Yep. Velma takes a scarf, ties his mouth shut. Which, considering you've got a talking dog, you know, how else is the dog supposed to get your attention? Because when he when he notices the black knight goes behind them and tries to get Velma's attention by tapping her, she tells him, not now, Scooby!

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Not now, Scooby.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

Not now, so Scooby then runs off, knocking into Velma, and she loses her glasses.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Yep, she loses them.

SPEAKER_00 30:11

So, darn yes, take a drink for the first time Velma has lost her glasses.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Take a drink, guys.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

You know, it's a good thing we're not doing this in like rapid succession of episodes. Because drinking every time Velma loses her glasses.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

We would be drunk.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

We'd either be drunk or we'd have liver poisoning.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

We would have liver poisoning. We'd be drunk, we'd be wasted on the It would be It'd be chaotic, I think.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Just a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

Anyways, as Velma's on her hands and knees looking for her glasses, the Black Knight trips over her and lands into some old-fashioned stockades. Velma thinks it's Shaggy and that his bad cold has come back. And is like, lucky I brought your cough medicine.

SPEAKER_01 31:04

Why would you even have his cough medicine on you?

SPEAKER_00 31:08

There actually is an explanation for that. Yes, there is.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Alright, let's hear the explanation.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

In the original production notes for Scooby Doo Where Are You, um, originally the characters that eventually became Velma and Shaggy were supposed to be siblings.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

That's why in certain episodes, Shaggy's the one who has Velma's spare glasses.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 31:39

Um this being the first episode of Scooby-Doo Where are you specifically? I think some of those old production notes were still in effect.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Oh, okay. Yeah, like he would have her glasses and she would have his cough medicine as like a sibling. Yeah. Okay. Because again, uh I see what you're meaning.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

You know, Fred is not given a name in this episode. Um that they may have still been using his pre-production name of I believe it was Robbie. Ronnie.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

Ronnie. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

Something like that. I'd have to look that one up again.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

Um. But anyways, she pulls out the cough medicine to give to the black knight ghost, thinking it's Shaggy.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

We then cut to Shaggy running. You know, he's you know, he's worried, like, I can't find that Velma nowheres. Well, you know. In which, you know, he gets to where Velma and the Black Knight ghost are. Velma has her glasses back and gives the cough medicine to Shaggy.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

In which they then run, you know, Shaggy grabs Velma and they run off. She has her glasses back and doesn't notice the Black Knight ghost, like, to her left.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

Whoops.

SPEAKER_00 32:56

Like, is that was that a blind spot, Velma?

SPEAKER_01 32:59

It might be a blind spot. If she's not looking in the direction it is, and you know, with her glasses specifically looking in that direction, that might be a problem.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Yeah. Um, we then get a short little bit of Scooby on his own going into where the dinosaur bones are, all the dinosaur skeletons. Yep. And him being the happy go-lucky dog he is, gets excited at the dinosaur bones.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

Grabs one of the T-Rex's femurs, which brings the whole skeleton down, and then the tail cuts into a curtain that reveals the black knight ghost.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

And he starts yelling and wailing at Scooby. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

So Scooby's scared, he puts the skeletons back together and runs off. Which, in on its own, really is almost an unnecessary scene.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

But is necessary for the next bit, in which we see everyone, like everyone from Mystery Inc. together, except for Scooby. Yep. When Scooby comes in from off-screen, tackles Shaggy.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

Of course. Who else would he tackle?

SPEAKER_00 34:10

In which Shaggy then notices that there's a painting missing from the wall. So they go back to get the rest of the game. And it's back. In which then Daphne notices a pool of what she thinks is blood on the ground.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

But it turns out to be paint. You'd think paint would leave a smell.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:36

And also with the amount of, you know, in air quotes blood, that would have been there'd be a like a blood smell.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:45

You know, because usually there's a smell when there's a lot of blood.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Right. And when there's a lot of paint, too. You definitely know the paint.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Yeah, as a person who works in a you know shop that does a lot of painting. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Um so they then notice that there's actually a trail of it. So they follow it to a sarcophagus in which they open it to revind a hidden back room, which is, you know, inside, full of a lot of different paints and paintings. One is one is even half finished. So they decide it's time to go alert the sheriff. Daphne's exclaims, like, hey, we'll take this back way out. And behind door number one, the ghost.

SPEAKER_01 35:38

The knight is there. Yep. The black knight shows up. He's very angry.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

You know, why did they just go through the door they already had open?

SPEAKER_01 35:47

That is true. That was that door was right there though.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

There's no there's no guarantee that that back way out was out of the building.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

There isn't, but yeah, apparently we have to try.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

It's like, hey, we just walked from this door that we came in from to back here. Like, hey, why don't we just retrace our steps? Like we know which way we're going.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

But we don't think like that.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

So you know. Some hijinks and shoe from trying to run away from the ghost. Um Shaggy hides behind a painting that the Black Knight ghost punches a hole into.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

And now the real question is, was that a counterfeit painting? Or was that or is it an actual painting that the ghost is destroyed?

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

Either way, probably doesn't bode well for whatever his plans were.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

No, it probably doesn't. He's probably kicking himself and destroying the painting.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Scooby comes in dressed as an artist.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

Squirts some paint onto a canvas, squirts some paint onto the ghosts, and they run off.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

It's gonna be a lot more fun when we get into a lot of the more crazy disguises that fun running from the ghosts.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

Yep. All the shenanigans they get into, all the stuff they do with the ghost.

SPEAKER_00 37:07

When the ghost doesn't even notice it's them, it's you know, they run to different parts of the museum, um in which after just some ridiculous chase scenes involving them hiding under a bearskin rug and moving away, in which the ghost pulls it out, and they hide under a table. Yep. Ghost picks up the table and they're holding on to the bottom and then throws them into a wall.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

That's kind of hurt.

SPEAKER_00 37:39

I mean that you know the amount of strength it takes to embed the table into the wall like that.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

Lost suit of armor, you gotta have some strength somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

Um Fred and the girls hide in uh tank, which cannot be comfortable because tanks are pretty small and cramped.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

Shaggy and Scooby hide in a biplane, in which Shaggy uses his expert ventriloquist abilities to make it sound like he's hiding in a pot.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

Outside of the room.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

Yep. Scooby being the happy dog he is, his wagging tail flips on the switch of the biplane they're in.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Which now raises the question why is there fuel in a museum display?

SPEAKER_01 38:23

What? I know, it doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

Um they so with the plane on, it starts going, it's now running after the ghost. It has its wings torn off going through a door, yet still has enough wings that it gets a vertical lift going because they do a they do an aerial somersault before cr basically crashing into the ghost.

SPEAKER_01 38:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

Um you know, they get out and they unmask the ghost to find it's the museum curator.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

You know, they're then we then cut to black, come back to them talking with the sheriff, in which, you know, the curator's plan was, you know, at night would take a painting, make a counterfeit of it, and then either sell the counterfeit or sell the original. I think he's selling the original with the counterfeits on in the museum.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

That would make more sense.

SPEAKER_00 39:28

But wouldn't it make sense? If the counterfeits are good enough to f fool the art the art critics at the museum, why wouldn't you just sell them to the sell the forgeries?

SPEAKER_01 39:41

True.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

You know.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

I don't know. But it's logic.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

But they'll they also never explain the height difference. No. Because when we see when we first see the museum curator standing next to the armor when they deliver it, he's about half of its height.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

Pretty much. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:00

And yeah, they don't explain the height difference.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

No, they don't. It's like, how could you fit in that when he's that sure? Yeah. How does that how does that work?

SPEAKER_00 40:10

Yeah. You know, they talk about how really it would have been Professor Hyde White with his special magnifying glasses that would have been able to spot the differences, which is why the Black Knight Ghost made him disappear.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

Right.

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Daphne then realizes we never found the professor.

SPEAKER_01 40:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

When we see Scooby-Doo with a shoe, they follow Scooby to where he got the shoe, to a Native American effigy statue, in which it's revealed like, nope, that was this Professor Hyde White tied up and gagged, dressed up like that. And then, you know, talking with Professor Hyde White, he explains how Wickles was in the mute was in the armor at the train station, uh, waiting for Professor Hyde White to pick up the armor, in which he then abducted him at the beginning of the episode. Yep. We then see the Black Knight armor groan and moving. It gets up from a chair, and we pan down to see two dog legs at the bottom.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

I don't know who that could be. I have no idea who that could be. I haven't the slightest idea who that could be.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

The helmet is opened up and it's Scooby just playing a joke on them.

SPEAKER_01 41:30

Of course. He always likes to play a joke on Shaggy, so what does he know? He always does that.

SPEAKER_00 41:35

You know, we get the Scooby-dooby-doo, and then we end the episode.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Yep, but that's the end, guys. Well, of this episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

And, you know, for a first time showing, it is an episode.

SPEAKER_01 41:52

It is an episode, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

No, it is. Um It's definitely like it definitely deserves its place as like the first episode. I don't think there are many of these early first season episodes that I think really fit the bill as to what makes Scooby as great as it does.

SPEAKER_01 42:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

And this does do a very good job of hitting a lot of those notes.

SPEAKER_01 42:26

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Um, I think honestly, the only episode out of what I re would call the original mysteries um would be, you know, the second episode. I think could be a strong contender for, you know, a good pilot episode.

SPEAKER_02 42:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

But that one also has a couple of flaws in it, in which like the main villain for that episode is really a person they don't meet at all in the episode. Um a lot of these other early episodes, it's like they either kind of really rely on a lot of these early established things. Which is another weird thing, because it's like all of these episodes are kind of made in a way to assume like any episode could be somebody's first. Um of them feel like I don't want to say more established But Because even this doesn't like fully explain a lot, you know, it doesn't go like we're not getting any explanation like why these guys are friends or anything, or why Scooby can talk or anything, like Honestly, like we don't get any of that in Scooby-Doo Where Are You and the Scooby-Doo show. Like, really, it's not until I'd almost argue Mystery Incorporated. Which is a more serialized Scooby-Doo series. Um, because like a pup named Scooby-Doo is like literally just Scooby-Doo Where Are You when they're kids. Yeah. In their younger years. Um but it's definitely, you know, it's a it's a decent episode.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

It is. I agree.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

And I think from there we get to do some fun things now.

SPEAKER_01 44:50

Oh, some fun things. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

So with every episode, we are going to do a ranking, a personal ranking of these episodes, um, where we will give it a rate ranking out of one to five, with one being bad episode, like avoided at if you really can't.

SPEAKER_01 45:17

Avoided at all costs.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

Uh, with a five being like, yeah, this is one of the best episodes of Scooby-Doo. Like, this is a definite must-watch of your life.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:28

Um, with the other numbers kind of falling into place as they were as they would. Um we'll also be ranking all of the main villains of the series. So any ghosts or things that kind of pop up as a addition to the main villain won't be on the ranking list.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 45:56

Um. But like the main ones will. And that also may or may not change depending on these circumstances. Like, for example, um, I know we're a good number of weeks away from this one, but a gagle of galloping ghosts.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

You know, we how many ghosts are in that one?

SPEAKER_01 46:20

There's two. There's actually no, there's a couple of them.

SPEAKER_00 46:24

Um, from my count, there's at least like four that could be potentially put on this on such a list like this. Right. Because you have the actual main culprit of the episode, but then we also see like a Frankenstein ghost, a werewolf, and a vampire. You know, three of those are s are featured more in the episode than the main culprit.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

But it's like, you know, the those three that we see more of, like, don't really do much of anything.

SPEAKER_01 46:58

Right.

unknown 46:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

Um, or with the mystery mask mix-up, we have the main ghosts, but as two zombie cohorts that we see more of.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

In which like I would I would feel okay putting the zombie cohorts on the list because they do they do a lot more than the actual gods.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

Well, usually that is how it is, though. Usually the leader doesn't do as much.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

Usually. Um, but like how you know we know that with decoy for a dognapper, there is uh just light show Indian ghosts that we see. Yep. It's like, yeah, something like that. It's like it's a light show, it's not really doing much of anything except just uh scare you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

And it did a pretty good job.

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Um, you know, as we go on, we may have more lists um that we'll add in. Like eventually, when I know we start getting into a lot of either people Mystery Inc. knows personally because they are friends or because they're relatives, you know, we'll probably start making a list of like how these are all interconnected.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

So that will be fun and convoluted eventually. Yep, when we get that like we'll have to probably like break that one up for sure by series.

SPEAKER_01 48:22

Yeah, we probably will.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

Um probably when we actually start getting traps.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Probably start ranking the traps.

SPEAKER_01 48:34

Um, we'll definitely be ranking the traps, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

It feels so weird that there's no trap in this episode.

SPEAKER_01 48:38

I know, I know. It feels weird.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

Um I think first we will start with the episode ranking. So, how many Scooby snacks for our table of snacks, which is what we are calling our personal rankings, would you give this episode?

SPEAKER_01 49:05

I would give it a five.

SPEAKER_00 49:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Um I mean, I know it's a nostalgic episode, so it's kind of more, you know, yeah, I feel like with it being the first one, you know, it's probably one of the you know, more iconic, you know, people.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

It's no, it's definitely it's see the black knight ghost, like one is an iconic villain.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

Um, he's featured in the live-action Scooby-Doo 2. Um, he's featured in, you know, bunch of different Scooby-Doo video games that I know of.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

Right.

SPEAKER_00 49:47

At least two off the top of my head that I can think of.

SPEAKER_01 49:49

Right.

SPEAKER_00 49:50

Um, but I've also only played a couple.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

Right, I've only played a couple, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:57

Or seen stuff for a couple. Um I think personally for me, because there's no trap, there's no like there's no this there are a lot of things I I really very much associate to Scooby-Doo, like the chasing to a music, the running through the doors.

SPEAKER_01 50:24

Yeah, and the hallway is the most iconic scene, but we don't get that till later on.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

But yeah, the sad thing is like a lot of that stuff does come later.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 50:33

Like, you know, I know the musical chasings don't happen until season two of Scooby-Doo Where Are You?

SPEAKER_02 50:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:39

Um that also might be when we start seeing the random door stuff.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

Um I could be wrong on that.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Could be.

SPEAKER_00 50:51

Um we have a while to go.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

Yeah, we definitely do.

SPEAKER_00 50:55

Um, like I I mean, personally, like, I'd give this one a four.

SPEAKER_01 50:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:00

But yeah, not wanting to have it go up against stuff that won't come until later.

SPEAKER_01 51:09

Right.

SPEAKER_00 51:10

I guess, you know, I could give this one a five. You know, it is an iconic episode, it is the first, so it shouldn't be held against stuff that comes later.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 51:24

Um, and you know, just because this one has a five doesn't mean that there aren't ones that'll be better.

SPEAKER_01 51:31

Or worse.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

You know. We have we have 25 episodes of Scooby-Doo Where Are You to cover here. Um so I'm gonna be very interested in seeing where everything goes from here.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

You know, how many are going to end up at fives, how many are gonna end up at fours.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

Or threes or three and a half. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:57

Um, I'm actually going to be very curious if we ever get to an episode that we would end up giving one Scooby snack. Um just because it's like yeah, how bad does the episode have to be to get there?

SPEAKER_01 52:13

Yeah, the episode will probably be way down the road.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

I know there are some people who know a lot about Scooby-Doo who are thinking, yeah, just wait till you get to the scrappy era. Because I can see where some of that might be on the lower end. Nothing I not that I personally have anything against Scrappy. Right. Um, but that is going to be a very weird scene.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:42

Um but then for our Manifest of Monsters. You know, it's the first episode. It's the first episode.

SPEAKER_01 52:52

Number one is nothing we're nothing hard about that one.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 53:00

You know. That was easy.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

That was easy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

Something gonna get harder from here.

SPEAKER_01 53:06

Only only gonna go down from here.

SPEAKER_00 53:10

You know, um back in the day, uh, Cartoon Network was doing a 25-hour Scooby-Doo marathon that they had intercut with uh bumpers that they had referred to as Those Meddling Kids, the behind the scenes of Scooby-Doo.

SPEAKER_01 53:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

In which those were just kind of like fun little behind-the-scenes look at like the different Scooby-Doo members.

SPEAKER_01 53:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 53:40

Um has no real bearing on anything with the show, it was just kind of something fun they were doing.

SPEAKER_01 53:47

Right.

SPEAKER_00 53:48

Um and during the actual episodes, they would intercut on the screen just kind of like random factoids um here and there, in which one of them that they had put up during I think it was Never Ape and Ape Man. Could be I would have to look it up for sure. Um either way, they had put up a factoid in which it was supposed that there's a approximation of about six Scooby Snacks eaten per episode of Scooby-Doo. Where are you?

SPEAKER_02 54:28

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 54:30

So we're gonna test this theory out. Yep. So we are going to keep a track of how many Scooby Snacks are eaten during an episode. Yep. Today, for we are at we got two Scooby Snacks in today's episode, which brings our current total to two. Um thinking about it now, there's gonna be a moment where they are probably down in a whole box. Not quite sure how we are going to count that. If we'll just count it like one box as question mark amount, or if we will try to find like some sort of real-world equivalent box size and snack size of snacks to figure that out. Have a rough guess.

SPEAKER_01 55:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:32

But that's a future problem.

SPEAKER_01 55:36

Yep. That's a future problem.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

So maybe you guys will have some sort of helpful thing for us.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

Um, I think that is pretty much about it for us um this week. Um, you know, nice solid episode.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

It was.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

Um, you know, guys, if you have any questions, comments, ideas for a name for a trap list, you know, ideas of how we can solve the future box of Scooby Snack problem.

SPEAKER_02 56:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 56:17

You can always email us at ScoobyZonepodcast at gmail.com. Um hopefully by the time you guys are hearing this, we will have a Facebook and Instagram and Twitter page.

SPEAKER_01 56:31

Hopefully.

SPEAKER_00 56:32

Um we will put the plugs in for those when we have them.

SPEAKER_01 56:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 56:36

Um But hopefully you guys will um those hopefully those will be up by the time you hear this.

SPEAKER_02 56:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 56:45

Um, if they are, uh we will have links or at least those the names for those in episode description and show notes, wherever. Um so until then, you know, we'll see you next time when we come to you know the next episode, a clue for Scooby-Doo. You know, personal favorite of mine.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

Um guys, just remember don't stack your ladders on jacks and then jack them up. Um, that's not very safe. And if you run a museum and you've got like old vehicles on display in there, make sure their fuel tanks are empty. Yep. Make sure you know you don't want a great dane hijacking them or even just the carbon monoxide running.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

Nope, definitely not.

SPEAKER_00 57:41

Um and so till next time, remember, they would have gotten away with it too.

SPEAKER_01 57:46

If it weren't for those metaling kids.