Bedlam in the Big Top

Let's stop clowning around and get ready to watch the center ring as we watch the episode "Bedlam in the Big Top" this week. Which character comes out of the closest this week? Who turns out to be the real trap master of Mystery Incorporated? And why does Rob really dislike this week's ghost? All this and more await inside the Scooby Zone.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello, and welcome to the Scooby Zone, the podcast where I'll bet you a donut as we watch a bit of Scooby-Doo Media. I'm Rob. And I'm Katie. And today we'll be watching Bedlam in the Big Top, episode 10 of Scooby-Doo. Where are you?

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Oh, episode 10. We're getting there, guys. We're moving on up.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Yeah, we're getting the big time.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

And the big top.

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Oh, man. All right. All right. You guys can find us at the Scooby Zone on Facebook, the ScoobyZone Podcast on Instagram, at the ScoobyZone on X. And you can always email us any comments, questions, concerns, whatever you want at ScoobyZonePodcast at gmail.com. Yep. You know, going on about stuff like, you know, let us know on how you guys want us to handle when we get to where this Laugh Olympics would be.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

If you want us to cover all 24 episodes of that individually, or just do one big huge thing. You can also let us know on your thoughts and feelings on how we should tackle Velma when we get that far into the future.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

Yeah, that'll be a while. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

If we don't cancel ourselves first before that.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Yeah, if we don't do that. Hopefully, we'll see. That'll be a long time into the future, I think. Yeah. Be a while, guys. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

But but yeah, we've got a lot more better series to watch before that.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Oh, yeah, definitely better series to watch. Like the one we're watching right now is one of the best ones.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

You know? You know, we're we're at episode 10.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

I know, we're episode 10 already. We're Yeah, we're cruising.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

We're more than halfway through the first season of Scooby-Doo Where Are You?

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Because I don't first season only had 17 episodes.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

And there's only 25 total for this series.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

So yeah, it's weird to think that we are almost getting through it. Yeah. And we've also haven't really encountered a lot of what we consider to be staples of Scooby. No, we haven't yet. And granted, like, I know, you know, things like the musical chase sequences weren't until like season two. Right. But like Velma's only lost her glasses, like, what, twice?

SPEAKER_01 2:49

I think so. Only a few times, not that many.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

And we always known her to lose her glasses.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

And I have yet to see the Mystery Machine breakdown.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

That's true. Well, that should be coming up in later episodes.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Yeah, I know for sure there's one for sure in season two.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Yep. Yeah, one for sure. Uh-huh. Um.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

Yeah, before that, I don't know. I don't really think there is any other ones in it's it's been a while since I've watched any real bit of Scooby-Doo. Where are you, outside of what we've watched for the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

I think it's kind of fun not watching some of these older things I know we're gonna be getting to quickly. Yep. Getting to experience them back with somewhat fresh eyes. Right, yeah, somewhat. Yeah. But no, we're having fun.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Definitely having fun, guys.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

So you know what else can we say about this episode before we get into it?

SPEAKER_01 4:00

I don't really have anything extra to add. I mean, we'll talk more when we all after we watch the episode.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Yeah, so another quick intro for us. Um, eventually this might get a little longer and you guys start emailing us or giving us comments on stuff. Yep. You know, but hey.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Hopefully that happens. Yeah. We want to interact with you guys, you know.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

Hey, but so we're just gonna go ahead, we'll split up, watch the episode on DVD, Blu-ray, wherever it's available, you know. Guys, get it however you can, however you are comfortable getting it. That makes sense, however, you're comfortable. Yeah, but I do know that eventually, as of right now, some later things, you know, might not be the most easily accept accessible.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

But we will still find a way to watch it to provide you with entertaining conversations about it. Yes, we will, guys. But we don't have that problem this week. Nope, nope, this week.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

I don't see it as a problem for a little bit yet.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

So we'll split up, look for some clues, and we'll be right back. And we're back. That was Bedlam in the Big Top.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Yep, definitely an interesting episode.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

It is, and it's interesting for a couple of different reasons.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Yes, definitely for a couple of different reasons.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Not my favorite villain.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Probably not, no. I don't think so either. No.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

But we'll see how it fares on the Manifesto Monsters later. Yep, Manifesto Monsters. We open up with uh, you know, two circus folk riding on a tandem bicycle, in which we then see a ghost clown who does some fingery wiggling things.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

Like magic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Like magic. And the bike breaks apart. Yep. We pan a little further to see the mystery machine driving towards the now broken tandem bicycle. Yep. And Mystery Ink notices that the two people on the bike are going out of control and crash into each other. Yep. They introduce themselves as Max the Midget and Samson the Strongman. Yep. And that they are uh circus workers who are leaving the circus because it's jinxed. Definitely jinxed there. Yep. They tell Mr. Inc. that if they were them, that they would, you know, turn back around and get out of those woods. Yep. Gaz neck of the woods. But, you know, Fred driving the mystery machine as he does decides to. It doesn't happen. We're going to the circus. Yep, definitely. They go and meet with the circus manager, Mr. Barnstorm, who explains to them that there's been a ghost clown haunting the premises and warns them to leave.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 7:22

As they're talking with Mr. Barnstorm, Scooby kind of wanders off after seeing a shadow.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Fred, Daphne, Velma, and Shaggy leave.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Of course.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

And as they're driving away, they notice that, hey, we forgot Scooby. Yep. So they go back while Scooby is being hypnotized in order to ghost clown. The high wire act. Yep.

unknown 7:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

You know, they get back to the circus and they immediately split up. Fred and Daphne going one way to look for Scooby. Shaggy and Velma going the other way.

SPEAKER_01 8:05

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

Shaggy and Velma walk into the big top.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

And there they see Scooby on the high wire. Yep. They go and try to get Scooby to come down. Dragging the trampoline underneath him while Velma goes up. Yep. When the ghost clown wakes Scooby up from his trance, Scooby freaks out and falls.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

Starts jumping on the trampoline to eventually landing in a little funhouse-looking set. Set. I guess. And he gets tangled up in some balloons and he's falling up. He's falling up. And which the ghost clown then takes darts out of his shirt. Shirt. Costume. Costume. Throws them at the balloons, popping them to make Scooby fall. Yep. Where Shaggy and Velma try to catch him with one of those circular stretcher things.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Something like that.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Yeah. That it breaks his fall enough. But it doesn't. But he breaks through it. So at least him hitting the ground isn't as hard as it would have been falling from the original height.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

Right.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

We cut to where Fred and Daphne are still looking for Scooby because they don't know if Shane. They don't know they found him. Yep. Looking in a costume tent where Fred ends up trapped in the closet.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Yep. Fortunately.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

I mean, it's the Escot, really. It's the Scot.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Oh, come on. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

There had to be one of these jokes in there somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

There had to be that somewhere, I guess. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

And then Daphne gets hypnotized by the ghost clown.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

To do a unicycle act wearing a ballerina outfit. Yep. And this is where a lot of my big concerns with the ghosts of this episode fall into play.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

Yep, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

You know, just looking at it from an adult. Adult perspective. Yep. You know, it's a little questionable, like Daphne's the only one who has a costume change when she's hypnotized. Yep. Yeah. Don't know what was going on in the people's heads when they're making this.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

I have no idea either.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

Although it was the, you know, the 60s, so may have been simpler times. Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 10:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

It's Daphne.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

It's Daphne, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

Just her look of the draw.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

I guess so.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

But uh Shaggy Velman Scooby C Daphne riding the unicycle. They don't comment about her costume change.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

No, they don't mention that at all, which I find pretty interesting.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Um, they try to stop her by getting the stampede net out in which she continues to ride through it. Yep. Throwing Shaggy and Scooby into some instruments and then chasing them. Yep, surprisingly enough. She rides into the animal tent where she's now riding on top of elephants that are holding each other's tails with their trunks. Yep. It's weirder yet, guys. Scooby convinces adult elephant to spray Daphne with some water to wake her up from her trance, in which she comments, how did she get in that outfit and why is she soaking wet?

SPEAKER_01 11:53

Yep, definitely weird. Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

You know, mentions that they were in the costume tents, so they should go look for Fred. Yep. So they let him out of the closet. Oh, great, he gets out of the closet. In which, you know, they set up a trap to catch the ghost clown. Yep. Which it's not really much of a trap. They get one of the circus cages. Yep. They're gonna have the bait chase the ghost into the cage. Yep. They'll run out the second door, drop it with a rope, trapping the ghost on the other side.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

And for bait, you know, it's gonna be the fastest runner. Scooby-doom. But this time, in you know, Scooby doesn't want to. He's got a sprained ankle.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Right, he's got a sprained ankle.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

So take your drink for his injury.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Yep, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

And so, well, you know, they're not gonna waste their time with Scooby snacks this time.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

No, definitely. We're going all out in this one.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

A hero sandwich.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

A hero sandwich. We don't even know what's on the hero sandwich. It looked kind of weird, like cheese or something. Well, there was obviously lettuce on there, but well, this looked really weird.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Fred forgets something vitally important. What? Shaggy's a track man.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

And he can run expert in track. He can run and like fast.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

So Shaggy is gonna be bait as well, and they'll just split the screen. Split the sandwich. Yep. You know. While they're off being bait, they split up. Yep. And Shaggy gets hypnotized to be a lion tamer. Where his only costume change is he gets a hat. He gets a hat, no. Not as bad, guys. Yeah. You know. Scooby finds him in with a lion and sees the ghost clown planning on waking Shaggy up to become a snack for the lion with a whistle. Yep. Scooby steals the whistle, tries to get Shaggy's attention before waking him up himself.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

And they run away from the lion. Guys, important.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Don't be lying tamers. Don't be lying tamers, alright? Don't be forced into a cage with a lion either. Yeah. That's a safety concern for this episode, guys. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

They, you know, they get chased by the ghost. They run it into the cage, which works. It works. But after a while they notice that the ghost is just gone. Yep. Fred makes a comment how he would have bet money that they had caught him. And that's where Shaggy gets the brilliant idea. He gets a brilliant idea for a trap of his own. Yep. So he says that he and Scooby will go back out and they'll catch the ghost. They run into the ghost clown, who then proceeds to try to hypnotize Shaggy and Scooby into thinking they're chimps. Yep. But Shaggy and Scooby pull out mirrors. Yep. And the ghost hypnotizes himself. Yep. He hypnotizes himself. So they end up bringing the ghost clown back to the game. Well, the ghost clown thinks he's a chimp. They tie him up and they find out, you know, that he's a guy named Harry the Hypnotist. He used to work with the circus. Until he caught him stealing. Yep. And then was imprisoned. So he dressed as a clown to get revenge. Well. The ghost clown that they caught in the cage turned out to be a balloon that was filled with a hair cartridge that, you know, could be released when the ghost wanted it to. Right. Making it look like he disappeared.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

You know. We later then see Fred, Daphne, and Velma in the audience at a circus after Mr. Byron Storm has commented that, you know, the circus will open as planned.

SPEAKER_01 15:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

And they talk about how Shaggy and Scooby have a surprise planned.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

You know, Mr. Bardstorm, he introduces Samson, the strong man, who lifts up a giant dumbbell. Yep. Which after he has it lifted up, both ends pop open to reveal Shaggy and Scooby at least on one end of it. Yep. And that is the end of the episode. Yep, most definitely. You know, pretty straightforward one. It was definitely an episode. It definitely was an episode. Pretty much. You know. Not my favorite villain. Yeah, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

I'll definitely agree with you on that one.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Not not just because of the adult perspective on it. Like, I'm just not overly fond of clowns.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

They're kind of creepy.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 16:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

They're very I don't know what it is, but they are very easy to just make you extremely creepy.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

They are.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Yep. You know, perfect example, Pennywise from it.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

Mm-hmm. Which I don't know about you, but I almost thought that this clown kind of looked like he kind of does look like it a little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Maybe that's what they base it off of.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

Maybe. But you know, let's go ahead and get into the fun bits of this recap and everything. All right. Our snack intake. We are currently sitting at a total of 19 Scooby Snacks plus one shaggy snack. Yep. There's no Scooby Snacks here.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

No, but there's a hero sandwich.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

So then where does that count? So now we're at 19 Scooby Snacks plus one shaggy snack, plus one hero sandwich. Okay. Alright. Yeah. It's gonna be fun. Definitely gonna be fun. So now let's get to. Ooh. Do we want to do the failure files or the manifest of monsters first?

SPEAKER_01 18:02

Let's let's mix it up a little bit. Let's do the failure first.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Then we'll get to the Fred Jones failure files. Shout out. No, special shout out to our fan AJ for providing us with this name. It's awesome. I actually thought it was really good. So yeah, we're definitely gonna keep it. We're keeping it.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Alright, so definitely a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

All right. All right. At the bottom of the failure files, we have the slide from Never Ape'n Ape Man.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Yep, definitely the one's on there.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

You've got the instant suds. Yep. Just a pack of dogs running. Pack of dogs. Scooby trying to murder a ghost in the biplane. What could go wrong there? Scooby running into a ghost pretending to be a train. Yep. You know, Shaggy just catching a ghost in a drum and throwing a tuba on him. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

You know, a big crate and a giant magnet to catch a robot.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

You know, the special effects nonsense from what the heck's going on. What the heck's going on? And the best trap so far has been the better. The better mouse trap. Yep. Which is just pure Rube Goldberg, you know, chaos. Definitely. So, you know, what do you think of, you know, just a mirror?

SPEAKER_01 19:29

I mean, it it does the work. I mean, it does what it's supposed to.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Comes off without a tr, like it definitely works. Honestly. Hmm. It's like, okay. Well, better mousetrap is like, I think that's just that number one because like how ridiculously complex it is.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

But then it it works in the end.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

You know, Scooby goofs, but like it works in the right way that it's needed. You know, it worked on Scooby the way it was supposed to, and Scooby falls on the ghost. Yep. You know, the special effects was just a bizarre nonsense that went off with no problem whatsoever.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

It definitely went off. Yeah, it definitely did.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

You know, I'd say this, I put I would put this above the crate in the magnet because this works how they want. Like even Fred's trap worked.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

If he was a normal, right, but he wasn't, yeah, it wasn't technically the clowns, the ghost clown, so it didn't put it.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

But Shaggy's trap worked better.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Right. Well, because they went after the actual clown versus the inflated.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

So does this mean that Shaggy's the expert trap maker?

SPEAKER_01 20:37

He might be. Yeah, now he's an expert trap maker, guys.

SPEAKER_00 20:42

Alright. So this is a simple mirror. It's now the third best trap. Where are you? A simple trap, guys. So Okay. Alright. The Manifest of Monsters. Okay. Where do we put the ghost clown?

SPEAKER_01 21:01

Oh. I mean, he still has the same outfit. He never changes.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

You know, and you don't like him.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

When Harry the Hypnotist was with the circus, was he a clown in the circus or was he just the hypnotist?

SPEAKER_01 21:15

That is a good question. I don't know what he was supposed to be.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

I mean, in terms of looking terrifying, like he'd be at the top because clowns are terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Right, clowns are terrifying. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

But I just I mean, I don't like this.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

I don't like the clown either.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

I mean, I really don't Yeah, I mean, he's better than the eight man and the castle ghost. Yep. You know. He's more elaborate than I'd say the minor 49er.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

You know, all he wants is petty revenge. Yep. So does that put him above Minor 49er? Well Okay, look, you know, in the witch doctor, his mod is like kidnap dogs. Right. His dog would be returned.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

And be the number one dog.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

Captain Cutler was pretty much stealing boats. Yep. You know. Petty revenge is. I mean that's a better motivation than those two things.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Yeah, I suppose. So what? Is he gonna be the number four? Or you want to put him above Charlie?

SPEAKER_00 22:29

I almost say probably should go above. Charlie wasn't really a villain. No, but. But Charlie's design is so much better.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

But not as terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

No, not as terrifying. No, he's not as terrifying.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

So yeah, I'd almost put him above Charlie.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Okay. Yeah, we can put him as in the number three slot.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Cause yeah, like, you know, Pietro the puppet master, like, in a way, he's a little more aggressive. He's a little more terrifying for different reasons. He's more, he was more aggressive in trying to stop them with dropping things from the city.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Dropping things from the set from the ceiling.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

Um, you know, and you know, he counterfeiting major counterfeiting scandal in the basement. And you know, Elias Kingston was like, that was a huge, elaborate, like family scam going on. Yep. So yeah, I'm fine with there. All right. So now it's time for the table of snacks. How many Scooby Snacks do you think this episode brought to the table?

SPEAKER_01 23:38

I don't know. I don't think it'd be definitely not like the last few episodes where there were like a solid four. I don't think this one hits a solid four at all. I don't think so either.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

You know, this one really isn't a favorite of mine, not just because of the clown and the other side. It's like it's a their episode.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

You know, this isn't like if this one's on, like I might not necessarily be watching it. Tempted to just sit down and watch it. Yeah. I would give this one maybe a three. Yeah. If I'm being really generous, like yeah, I'm thinking a three. I don't think it's terrible enough to be a two. No.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Um not as bad as the hassle in the castle.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

Yeah, but even that still got a three, but it had a brilliant trap. That one that's what made it a three because it had a brilliant trap. So a nice solid three for Benjamin.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Sounds about right to me. All right.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

All right. You know, again, that kind of brings things to wrap it up.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Yeah, I guess it does, huh?

SPEAKER_00 24:40

You know, 10 episodes in.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Wow, that's pretty exciting. We're cruising along here. Pretty nice.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

Yeah, you know. You know, thank you all for listening, you know.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Thank you all for your continued support.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

Yeah, we appreciate it. You know, definitely. Feel free, any comments, reviews, ratings, wherever you guys are listening to us, you know, any bit of feedback, you know, is gonna help us improve the content we give you. Uh you know, and we appreciate Eddie's support, you know.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Any support we appreciate. Yep, we're good with that. You know.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

You know, you know, neither one of us, because we like to be surprised with stuff, like we don't follow a whole lot of Scooby news on what's going on with different projects. So, you know, if you're wondering why we haven't talked about you know, things like, you know, the Netflix casts, it's mostly because I'm not actively seeking out a whole lot of information.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

No.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

I know as of recording this late March that the rest of the main cast for Netflix Scoobies series has been cast. Right, they've been revealed. I don't remember anyone's names besides McKenna Grace as Daphne. I don't remember either. So I think it may have been Abby Rose as Velma.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Might be.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

Looking it up real quick.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Maybe if I can, you know, get there. Yeah. If I can find it. Oh, look, our podcast. Our podcast pops up. Well, if there's let's do cast.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

I think Frank Welker is voicing Scooby yet. I think I saw that somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

That might be, yeah. Alright, here we go.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

So you can look at it yourself and tell everybody. Abby Ryder as Velma. Okay. Maxwell uh Jenkins as Fred, and Tanner Hagen as Shaggy.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Okay. I mean, I guess we'll have to see.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

I don't know I don't know any of them. I don't know any of them. I think.

unknown 27:11

Hmm.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Oh, I know McKenna Grace, I've seen in a couple of different stuff. Mostly I recognize her from Ghostbusters Afterlife.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

Which is like kind of spiritual sequel to Ghostbusters 2. Okay. So at least she's got some Ghostbuster in her history. Well, that'll help with the live action then. I think she's also the younger version of Carol Danvers in the Captain Marvel movie.

unknown 27:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

And flashback scene. Okay. I know she was in, I believe, Young Sheldon as a character. I've seen her in things like I think she's a good enough actress. I think she'll do good in the role of Zephanie. Anyone else off the top of my head, I can't think of anything I may have seen that they've been in.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Right. Yeah, I can't. Can't even think either.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

One thing is a little interesting to note is it's an all-white cast for Mystery Inc. And that's not a bad thing. And that's not trying to make it seem like it's a bad thing that there should be diversity there. Right. I'm just making a note of it because last couple of instances have had more of a mixed cast. Like the live action Cartoon Network films.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Right.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

You know, I think what Velma was more oriental. I think so. I'd say. Yeah. If I'm recalling that correctly. Which again was not bad. Like I thought their choice of Elma there was fine. Right. Perfect. Yep. Obviously, big, huge, um controversial take. You know, HBO Max's Velma series. Yeah. I know when that had its cast of characters revealed. Um how the how the cast was going to look. There, I at least I had seen on some social media pages a lot of backlash at Asian Daphne, Black Norville, Indian Velma, and I didn't think there's anything wrong with those changes. Nowhere, from my knowledge, in the history of Scooby-Doo, has them being white ever been a problem.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

Ever been an issue.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

Ever been like important to their character. Right. You know, so like, yeah, I don't mind if you're changing up the races of these characters. Which is why I do think it's interesting that Netflix is going with an all-white cast cast. Um but hey, you know, if these are the right people for the job, like I'm willing to watch it and see.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

You know, I mean, yeah, I'll give it a watch, you know, just to see. That's something we can, you know, show too in the near future. You know, if you I mean that's the other thing too. If you guys would rather have us, you know, do the podcast on the live action versus Velma, you know, we can gladly swap them out. If that's I mean, I mean, I'm just saying, you know, if that's you know, more of an option, you know, even though I don't know when it's coming out, if it's coming out this year or next year, you know, and I don't know yet.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

I think it starts production in April. Okay. So it's so by the time you're listening to this, it probably has already been into production.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Into production. All right. So I mean.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

But that is what you know, we'll get to it once.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

We'll get to it. Yeah. When we get there, we still have a long ways to go, so still has a chance to make it onto our podcast list. And you know, we'll gladly swap it out if you guys know. Let us know if you want us to swap them out. We'll definitely, you know, we're getting in.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Because we haven't even started to cover any of the movies yet.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

No, that'll be that you know you have to wait on those two.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

You've got how many more series to go, how many more movies, like exactly guest appearances.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Definitely. Yeah, we we got a while, guys. So I mean Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Looking at the list of Scooby's guest appearances and other series, it's kind of a mess. Definitely. Um so I don't think we'll cover all of his many guest appearances. I'm kind of going th combing through the list and kind of picking and choosing one you know, appearances that I think are more easily accessible for us to watch. Yep. And ones that I think we'll enjoy a lot better than ones that will make us frustrated and want to quit the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

We don't want we don't want that to happen. No, we want to keep doing this, you know. We want to keep showcasing it.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

But I think that just about wraps up things for this week.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

I think so too.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

All right, all righty guys. We'll be back next week with a gagle of galloping ghosts. Yep. Try saying that three times fast.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

I don't know if I wanted to. That sounds like a tongue twister. Oh, it'll definitely be a fun episode. We'll have to definitely be one that'll be more interesting. We'll have a lot more feedback on this one. Right?

SPEAKER_00 32:54

This next one will be definitely one for the books. So we'll see you all then. And just remember, they would have gotten away with it too. If it weren't for those meddling kids.