Paradigm Shift Episode 3: Is America Overweight?

Rob & Jesse Explore The Struggles of Being Overweight in Western Culture,

The Social & Financial hurdles That Overweight People Deal With & What Can Be Done to help Everyone live a happier Healthier Life,

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Alright, welcome back to Paradigm Shift Episode 3, guys. Is America overweight? We're gonna talk about the issues that uh people are struggling with when it comes to uh plus size individuals and uh uh issues that they're having in society, right? And how hard is it to get back into shape once you're you know kind of beyond that point of no return, right? It's like when you're flying uh out to Alaska or out to the the Arctic or something and you reach that uh the what do they call it the the PN uh the PNR the point of no return?

SPEAKER_02 0:45

Point of no return.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

You're out of gas if we go back, yeah. So uh so what do you think, man? I was uh I want to kick things off with uh a video that I was watching.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

Uh hold on one second. Why don't you introduce yourself?

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Oh, yeah, I'm Big Rob. I guess I forgot to say that. Uh sorry this, of course, is Jesse, my partner in crime, as always.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Absolutely here for app three and app 33 and app 333.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Absolutely, man. To the moon and back. Um, maybe we'll get some help from Elon on that one. But yeah, I was uh I was watching a video this morning that kind of got me thinking about it, and uh, the topic was plus size people having to pay for two seats with some airlines, right? And I can see both sides of the issue with this very controversial. I mean, it's sad that this kind of everything always boils down to money at the end of the day, but um from one side of things, like I'm not even gonna say from the airline side of things because it's not accurate, it's it's from the other people flying on the plane with you, uh, their perspective, as somebody who's uh you know been in this situation, and a lot of people have. I mean, it's not fun when you book a flight and you're sitting leaning, you know, half in half of your seat, you're leaning to the right because someone is taking up half of your space, right? You paid just as much as they did for that flight, and when you went to get on your plane, you were expecting to have a comfortable seat to sit there and enjoy your flight in peace, right? But you can't have that because there's a plus side person beside you taking up half of your space, right? And that is obviously not cool, right? Obviously. Um now the other side of that though is that I don't know what it's like in the US, but here in Canada, the plane the the airlines have been progressively over the years making their seats smaller and smaller and smaller for years and years and years. Used to be on the mid-size, the normal size planes you fly domestically in, it was two seats aisle two seats, right? Fairly roomy, you're comfortable. They've shrunk them down so much now that it's three seats aisle three seats for perspective, which isn't terrible if you're in this situation, if it's only like uh between an hour and a half to like a three-hour flight, it's tolerable. You can lean one side and you're okay, right? It's it's an inconvenience, but first world problems, right? Um, the other side of that is like you know, I just flew to Tokyo, and the seat was so small, it was like, and I'm I'm a 38 to 40 inch waist, right? I'm not a I'm average, that's about average, I would say, for most men. And my knees were pressed together in the seat, and the the sides were pressed up against my hips, like the whole plate. That's a 15-hour flight. Oh my god. Right? I always choose an aisle seat for that reason because I can lean out into the aisle like this, right? I know you can't see me, you're probably listening, but I can lean out into the aisle. Uh, the only issue with that is, of course, then the cart people come and they just wham, right into your elbow, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:19

Straight into the elbow every time.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

If you know, you know. There goes your funny bone.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

Yeah. So the other side of it is that the airline has deliberately been making seats smaller and smaller and smaller to make more and more and more money. It's corporate greed at the end of the day, right? So it's not necessarily the fault of plus size people. There was a time when they could sit in a seat and not necessarily take up over half of the next person's seat, but when the airline continues to make seats so small, well, of course, right? Then they can capitalize on you know making more money from people. Now, granted, the caveat is there are some airlines out there that don't do that, they don't charge extra uh and stuff. So, I mean, where where do you land on it? What what side of the aisle, pun intended, do you sit on?

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Well, yeah, I like I like that. Uh, you know, the first thing I think I would say is I don't know if you've seen the show uh Pawn Stars on the History Channel with the Pawn shop. So it used to be the grandfather, uh the middle-aged guy Rick, and then his son. And the grandfather has since passed away. But when he was alive, you know, he was on that show for multiple seasons, and they had a segment at one point where something came into the shop and it was it was nostalgia airline related. I think it was something related to Pan Am. You know, Pan Am was a pretty big airline uh back back in the day. And um he said, you know, he's like back in back when I was younger, you used to get dressed up in your very best clothes, like as if you were going to like church or a job interview. He said, you know, you wore a suit, a tie, like you were dressed sharp when you were flying on the plane, because it was like a it was a big deal, like nobody, you know, flew, like it was rare, you know. And he said it was really a a privilege. And then he goes, but but today he's like it's just a pain in the ass. You know, it and and I think that's kind of what you're summing up, right? Like, like it's it's changed so much. And I always feel like whenever I fly, I'm kind of like on a public bust. Like that's what I feel like. Like it's not it's not the great thing it once was. Every time I go through TSA, I'm the guy that's randomly selected. Every time, sir, I'm like, I know, I know where we're going, you know, uh happens every time.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Assume the position.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yep, assume the position, uh put on the gloves, you know. But uh, but you're absolutely right. I mean, they have been shrinking the seats, and you know, I can think of I mean, I have a lot of friends that are bigger guys, uh bigger people in my own family, that hardly fit in a in a in in a vehicle, a car, you know. Like I remember my son in one of our cars. It looked like a clown car with him sitting in the front seat because my son is six two, almost six three, and I'm six foot. So he's he's like significantly bigger than me, right? He goes to get out of the car in the morning, his his size 13 shoes are getting caught. He he can't even hardly, he almost fell out of the door, you know. And so I think there's naturally bigger people, right? That the airline is not accommodating for. And, you know, if you think about it, like it's almost like the airline to provide a better experience should have different seat sizes. Maybe there's a little bit bigger seat, maybe there's a medium size, maybe there's a smaller size, right? Like, do we really need the the little you know 96-pound grandma in in a full-size seat when she could sit in maybe a smaller seat, right? And I I think I think part of that is that's definitely on the airlines. Now, like another side of this, if you think about it, is there's a contract here, right? The contract is is I purchased a seat in whatever section, and that's what I purchased, and that's what I'm flying on. Now, if you were the bigger person, let's say, and you're hanging over into my seat, well, you didn't purchase my seat. I purchased my seat, right? But at the same time, the airline expects us to share an armrest. How awkward is that? You know, and I would say personally, I mean, I've flown next to plenty of bigger people that I I can feel it from them that they feel self-conscious and awkward because they're trying to hold their arms together. And I know their pits are sweating, you know, while while they're sitting there right next to me on the plane. And um and I I kind of feel bad for them, you know.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

I see Jack Nicholson and anger management. Uh we're not gonna have a problem here, are we? With the middle armrest.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Right, right. Absolutely. But uh, but yeah, you know, like, you know, is is there a weight problem is probably a a bigger question that ties into, you know, diet, genetics, um, you know, just just the food supply, all those all those things. I mean, that's that's true, but it does maybe it's exacerbated and highlighted on an airplane. So, you know, like you were saying, you're on an international flight for 15 hours. I mean, first of all, just being on a flight for 15 hours is like the worst experience ever. And then being crammed in a seat where your you know your legs are going numb the whole time. I mean, that's I don't know, that's just not it's not good.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

No, and again, I'm a I'm a big dude, right? Like my waist is average 38 to 40, but you know, I you know me. I'm I'm a retired professional athlete, yeah, retired professional wrestler, uh, former bodybuilding, you know, stuff like that. And so I'm still a very, very large guy in my in my you know, my my chest, I'm very broad, my shoulders and stuff like that. And same thing with my legs. So you're absolutely right. They don't accommodate for that at all. And like when I'm it's hilarious watching me try to eat a dinner on one of those flights. I'm like this. I'm like, you know, I'm just like cutting, I'm like elbowing the person beside me.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

Yeah, you're trying to eat with like T-Rex arms, yeah. T-Rex wings.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

It's it's the most awkward thing ever, right? Um, it's it's yeah, it's horrible. But going into the uh I could go on about the airlines forever, maybe that's a that's uh another episode or something, but uh going into the the weight issues is that you know it's it's hard as a former professional athlete, and this is why I brought that up. Uh, is that I'm turning 45 this summer, right? And I haven't really consistently been in the gym for probably a couple years now. I go off and on, but nothing really consistent like I should, right? So lately I have been trying to get back in every single day and get back into a routine and be consistent and stuff like that. And I can tell you, even in my condition, I'm not in bad shape at all, right? Like I'm I'm six foot, I'm about 275 pounds. Um, maybe you know, very not as much body fat as you would think, right? Be when you hear that, those numbers, right? Uh again, 30 to 38 to 40 inch waist. And I can tell you, being in my condition, there's people that will look at me and say, Man, like, you know, how do you I get asked all the time, even when I don't go to the gym for six months, we'll say, Well, what do you what do you bench? What do you you know, what do you how do you get into shape like that? Because it's a lifetime of training, right? It's 30, 35 years of gym, right? Um and even I can tell you from that perspective, it I am struggling. I am struggling to um on a physical level to to maintain the the difficulty. Um being again, being turning 45, you don't recover like you did when you were in your 20s and 30s. Um you know, your endurance just isn't there, your your stamina, I mean, it's it's a whole list of issues that make you want to just hop off the stairs and say, I'm going to sit on my fucking couch, right? It's hard, man. Yeah, and then you know, and the next day, and then also changing your lifestyle in terms of eating as well. That is fucking hard, man. Like it's not it's easy for someone who's in good shape already, whether it's just genetically or because you train that way and you've just always have. So you just if you've never been past that or close to that uh that PNR or yeah, PNR level, right? That point of no return. Um it's easy to sit back and say, well, I'll just eat better and just go to the gym every day. But uh the wear and tear, I cannot imagine how difficult it is. And I'm not trying to be a bleeding heart for people who are out of shape or anything, right? Uh, I do believe that there is a level of will, you have to do it, even though it's uncomfortable and it's miserable and it's hard. You have that's the point, right? But like the wear and tear on like people like that, their hips, their shoulders, the range of motion is terrible. They're they're gonna be in a lot of pain when they're doing this stuff. It's not easy by any stretch of the imagination. So I want to put out there that anyone who is fighting that fight and continuing on, I commend you for sure, right? Keep keep going because you know you can get there and and and don't give up on it despite the difficulty. But it's I guess the point is just it's easy to point at that and say, well, just do this and just do that. Oh, okay. Is that all it is, right? Like it's easier said than done for a lot of people. Uh, but on the flip side of that, like I had already stated, anything worth having is gonna be hard.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Yeah, yeah. I I think um I think some of it is what we're born with, some of it is how we grew up, some of it is your life as an adult and how how you fit things in, let's say. Um I think all that stuff matters, you know. Like sometimes, you know, there you like we said earlier, you have naturally bigger people, period. Not everybody, there's not a one size fits all people, you know. Like this is one of the things that really kind of bugs me of about healthcare, is I feel like if whenever you go to the doctor, they're always trying to put everybody in the exact same box. And it's it's not realistic. And like one of the things they always highlight is BMI, right? BMI, BMI, oh, you're too big, BMI. Well, your BMI isn't accounting for the muscle weighs significantly more than fat. So there's plenty of guys who have significant muscle mass that you're telling are are morbidly obese. And they're simply they're they're muscular, you know, like it so that's I mean, that's not really accurate, you know. I think then you also have you got people that grow up eating, eating, living a certain way, you know. Maybe they didn't exercise a lot growing up, maybe they just didn't eat a certain way growing up, you know. Maybe they maybe they ate out a lot, you know, right? Like if if you eat out a lot, you're naturally taking in a ton of sodium. Sodium retains water. You know, a lot of people don't think about this stuff. Um but then when it comes to being an adult, you know, one of one of my own personal views is that you can blame everyone else until you're over 18. And then at that point, it's kind of on you for however you're gonna live your life, what one way or the other, whatever, right? And and not to say that you know you're blaming somebody else for you know your predicament or whatever, but the point is is that if if you want to make a change, you need to have the will to do it. And like I would say, like in my own situation, I grew up um with my dad always having a weight set in our garage. Okay. There was no uh local gym, you know, it it was just the the garage. And so I always worked out out in the garage until all of a sudden I got older, I got into college, and I had friends that would go to the gym regularly, and I'd I'd do that. I did it kind of as a younger adult, and then I kind of had a period of just not doing really anything. And the, you know, my the extent of my exercise was like mowing the lawn and stuff like that. And I kind of got in pretty bad shape, right? And so, you know, when I was to give you some perspective, when I was in uh like high school, I was probably about like 168, 170. And then as an adult, I went up to about 220, 230. And it, you know, my for my frame, it's like, hey, you probably need to be a little lower than that. And so one of the things that I have since done is try to make um exercising convenient, right? Because when something's convenient, you're more likely to participate and to do it. And so, like one of the things that I have is I have a Peloton bike and I cycle daily, okay? I love it. I I'm like a complete gym rat with that thing. I I love going out there. I only put in an hour or less and it it has significant results, right? Um, so that's I think there are options out there like that. Like you don't always have to think about it in terms of like, oh god, another gym membership, and how am I gonna fit in driving all the way over there? I I have the stuff again in the garage, you know. You could you could even put it in your bedroom if if you you know had the space to fit a little treadmill or or whatever, but not to say that that's the the answer to to everything, I'm just saying that's one part of the pie is the convenience.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

I have the Peloton bike and I have the Peloton treadmill as well. Yeah, um and that I'm sorry, but that bike, how do you sit on that seat so long, dude? I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

So here's here's the secret, right? Um, think of it like this like if you look at like a football player, are they going out there and playing football in a t-shirt and shorts? No, they put on pads, they put on gear, they have cleats, they have a helmet, they got a mouthpiece. When I go out there and get on the bike, I have cycling clothes, I have padded shorts. Oh padded shorts go a long way, man. I wear a jersey, I wear compression socks, I have cycling shoes that clip in.

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Yeah, I have the I have the Peloton shoes as well.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Well, the thing though, in saying all of that is I didn't start that way. I started with just regular clothes, regular shoes. And and you have to, I think you have to go into health with the idea of leveling up. You don't start on level 100, you start at zero and then and then you go to one and then to two and so on. And so I think all that stuff comes into play. And if you if you commit and you start, you know, if if you just like model people that are in the space, you can you can really get pretty far, I think, truthfully. And so I I personally I love Peloton. I love the convenience of it, I love the community. It sort of reminds me of uh, I don't know if you ever watched The Biggest Loser when it was on. No, okay, there was a lot of controversy around it, right? Because it was like, well, this show is promoting rapid weight loss and is it really healthy? And there's a lot of people that after the finale would put the weight back on, right? Because when they were in the show, they're in this really controlled environment, right? They're on the ranch, they're working out like eight hours a day. You know, there's no real life. And so when they had to deal with real life, it was like everything fell apart. But it wasn't like that for everyone on the show. I mean, there's a lot of them that made pretty significant changes, and they were just kind of, you know, different afterwards. And so I used to love watching that show, just kind of watching the progression of people because some of them you could you could see at the beginning, I mean, they would get like the most out-of-shape people they could possibly find. And over the course of this show, like let's say four months or however long it would go, I mean, some of them you could see like the animal fire up in there, and it was like, wow, like like this person's gonna be a force in the end. And and sure enough, they would be, you know. I thought that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 21:25

Speaking of rapid weight loss, peptides. Peptides. Peptides. Um, what was it? Uh Ozempic?

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Ozempic, yeah, yeah. Ozempic.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

So this has become all the rage, right? Um, and there are so many different kinds of peptides out there, right? It's not just one one size fits all. Um now, to be clear, we're not promoting the use of peptides and or we're not. Denouncing them either, right? But for me personally, it might surprise you, but I did start using peptides. Personally, right? Not gonna say which ones, because I don't want to promote anything, but um one thing I can tell you is I mean appetite suppression is insane. Yeah. Insane. Right? Um but like because I I went from like I'm an eater, I love I love my food, right? Uh I love my carbs, I'm a pasta guy. I love my carbs. Right. And when I started the first like six days, I think it was, no, no, it was only three days, three full days, before it dawned on me that I hadn't had a single carb in three days. And I'm like, I need some carbs, like because you you need carbs, right? Make no mistake about it. You need carbs, but it was just that that craziness of I didn't even realize I hadn't had a carb. I had just been eating like boiled eggs and chicken, and you know, like I I hadn't had any pastas or breads or nothing like that, right? And uh so it it just and I was just I wasn't hungry often. Um, so I guess that's the point of it, is that it's supposed to help you to be not hungry and then you don't overeat, right? Yeah, as a result, your stomach kind of shrinks, and you know, if you combine that with exercise and you you behave responsibly, then uh you can see good results, right? But a lot of people are taking it to you know next level dangerous areas because they can be dangerous, that's the thing, they can be very dangerous, right? So we're talking about uh insulin levels and and stuff like that. So what do you what's your take on that? I mean, we see Hollywood going crazy, we're seeing uh Jonah Hill and all of these, I think that's his name, losing all of this dramatic weight, yeah, yeah, to the point where they look unhealthy, right? What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 24:09

I I think there is no miracle cure, period. And I think this stuff is marketed as a miracle cure, and one of my biggest pet peeves is when I'm watching a TV show and a commercial comes on for a pharmaceutical, and the people are like dancing at the park and they're high-fiving or you know, playing tennis or pickleball or whatever, while they're reading off the list of side effects. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the side effects are like you may die, you know, you have a possible limb loss, you know, your eyes may fall out, you know, no sense of taste or smell, you're gonna be irritable, you may vomit, you may have diarrhea, you know, and it goes on and on and on and on and on while they're having a great time. And that that's kind of what I think about Ozempic. So I know um in the corporate world, there were multiple people that were on Ozempic, right? And in the corporate world, you know, you you've got a large population of people that really aren't active. You know, they're they're really pretty sedentary. They're used to sort of being at a cubicle or in an office, they're used to kind of just sitting there eating, eating snacks and whatever, hanging out. And that's the group that picked up Ozempic, right? Is this miracle cure? And you could see a mile away, everyone who was on it, because the weight loss was so immediate and so stark, you know, that that you could just tell, like, like your face is too thin, like some something's something's up here, you know. And I'm I'm pretty sure there was a stat that came out that said people on Ozempic uh that stayed with it on average lost 20% muscle mass with it, and they never gain that back. Like it's it's just like sort of gone along with with the weight.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

Well, it's because that it stops you from uh from eating, right? Like my doctor, my doctor prescribes mine and controls mine and stuff like that, right? So he all he's constantly telling me eat a ton of natural protein, right? High protein foods, because that's the exact reason why, right? You you gotta feed your muscles that protein and stuff like that, or you're gonna lose that too. You're absolutely right.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Yeah, yeah. Protein is a natural hunger suppressant, and carbs are a natural, let's say, hunger addiction amplifier. Yeah, because when you eat them, you you want more, right? You right, you want a little bit more. And I don't blame you, I absolutely love pasta. I love pasta. Linguini is is one of my favorites, and and I like making uh my own meatballs, I like doing it with chicken, you know. I I like all different um types of pasta. We're going out for Italian. We're going out. Hey, what were we talking about? Who cares? Let's go to Hollywood, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Stuffing our faces in an Italian restaurant. We're done when I say we're done.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Yeah, but you know, truthfully, I I think at the end of the day, like there's a little give and take, right? Like it's it's almost, you know, the the weight loss drugs almost remind me of like steroids, because it's like, yeah, you can have this great effect that's pretty pronounced and and pretty immediate. But on the other side of it, you know, like like with steroids, I think it was uh Jose Conseco, you know, he talked about his his balls, you know, shrinking down to the size of marbles after he had done, you know, however many years of cycling steroids, right? And and it really is kind of like the same thing. And this is another reason why I I'm kind of a conspiracy theorist, but I also don't trust pharmaceuticals at all. Like I would trust things that are made by a university, by an educational body, right? When it comes to somebody who's their bottom line is dependent on this thing and they know it's going to be a gold mine, I don't trust it at all.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

You know. These pharmaceutical companies, what's their motivation to cure you when you continuing to come back to buy their product, right, is how they stay in business. Why would they cure you? Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Right. You know, I I know we like to cover controversial topics, so this is a bit of one, but I want to explain my viewpoint here. On the vaccines with COVID, right?

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

So I am usually more of an independent, I'm an independent thinker, and I'm probably, you know, depending on the issues, some issues a little left, some issues a little right. And on this particular issue of COVID, um, the older generation, like my parents' generation, right, uh, they were sold the vaccine hard. It was you take the vaccine or you're going to die. Take it, you know. And what's what's interesting about it with the the vaccines is they were kind of they were they were forced this thing from the government that was created by pharmaceutical companies. So I, as the conspiracy theorist, naturally don't trust it for the for the sole reason of where it's coming from. It's not that I don't trust vaccines, it's that I don't trust Pfizer selling me a vaccine. That's what I don't trust, right? And so what's interesting in in my own family is that my uh father had a heart attack, right? And he had it within three weeks of getting the vaccine. He's never had a heart attack in his life. Okay. Now, what's interesting about this is he had a longtime doctor who had been, you know, a doctor for 50 years, let's say. She had been a professor, she had been a pretty big deal, right? Knew her stuff inside and out. And leading up to all of this, my parents were adamant for the vaccine. I was adamant against it because I don't trust Pfizer, not because I don't trust vaccines, right? And so when we later talked to his doctor, the doctor said, Did you have the vaccine? And he said, Yes. And she goes, Oh, well, we got to write that down as a finding.

unknown 31:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

And all of a sudden the light bulb lit up, I think for both of my parents, they were like, Oh my God, maybe our son was right. You know, maybe he had a point here, right? And so, like, like that was that was a pretty big thing, you know, and a lot of there's a lot of vaccine-related deaths that were never publicly um communicated, right? And because because this whole thing became very political. And so the irony in it is that from the left, people want to shit on me like I'm some hardcore conservative. And I'm over here actually just a guy sort of in the middle that says, I don't, I don't trust the pharmaceutical company to have this thing fully vetted because when they rolled all that out, it hadn't gone through the years and years and years of trials like they would anything else, right? But they rolled it out anyway, and Pfizer made billions. And if you look at Ozempic, it's kind of the same deal. Like they're they're really just kind of rolling this thing out very quickly. Has it been fully vetted and tested? Not really. Um, like one of the side effects of Ozempic is that the people that are on it are really irritable. And I could understand that because they're not eating, right? I mean, we all feel good after we eat. If you're not eating, you're pissed off all the time.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

He needs a Snickers.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Yeah, give a Snickers have something, you know.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

Yeah. I haven't I haven't personally noticed uh anything like that, like that. But uh all the only thing I've really noticed is appetite suppression. Yeah, that's really it. I mean, I'm not I'm not super heavy into it. I mean, I know some people are just abusing the hell out of it, but you have people out there who uh you know abuse stuff like growth hormones and stuff as well, right? I mean, to it to a disgusting degree where it's just you know, you you do suffer those massive long-term negative effects, right? Um, as for the COVID thing, I I I seriously I want to cover a whole episode on that, so I'm not gonna dive into it because there is a lot to unpack there.

SPEAKER_01 33:18

Sorry for bringing it up.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Oh no, hey, I'm I'm with you, man. I'm with you, and there's a lot to talk about. There might have to be like a part two, part three to that topic, but yeah, maybe have a guest on or something like that to kind of talk about it. But um, but yeah, kind of bringing it back to the you know and then to bring it back to the health issues, the the weight issues, is um when not to make it political, but when um what's his name there? Uh the the health the the guy who's running the health there in the the Kennedy. You're saying Kennedy, yeah. Yeah. Um so my my original understanding of him being designated um or confirmed was the concept, from what I understood, was that he was supposed to be more just really leaning towards anti-fast food and stuff like that. And I'm like, hmm, you know what? That sounds pretty good, right? That's yeah, that's good, right? Because we are just saturated with fast food everywhere, everywhere you turn. Like you can't drive down a single block without passing 10 fast food restaurants, right? It's insane. Um, it's convenient, it's fast, and boy, is it unhealthy. And that's uh, you know, that's what we go for. I mean, you know the old saying, you could literally walk into a um uh grocery store, and if you just stuck to the outer aisles, like the the walked along the outside, you could get everything, everything healthy is on the outside. Yeah, all the shit is in the middle, right? You go along the outside, you got your your dairy, you got your meats, you got your fruit and your vegetables and stuff like that. You go in the middle, you got your fucking canned raviolis, all the processed cereals and candies and chocolate and pop tarts, and you know what I mean? Like that's where all the garbage is. It's it's I didn't know that until someone had said it to me a few years ago. I was like, son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

I've been shopping wrong this whole time.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

I go right for the middle aisle, no wonder. My addiction kicking in. Yeah, but but that's you know, that's a big problem for sure. Uh not just in the US, but uh, you know, Canada as well. So again, it comes back to me. For me, it comes back to the struggle that uh you know people are having. Uh like again, me, I eat my feelings. That's what I do, right? I've always been that way. When I'm stressed, when I'm upset, when I'm angry, when I'm anything like that, put a plate of spaghetti in front of me, right? I'm I'm going to town on it. That's just what I do. Suppress it, eat. I eat my feelings, right? And a lot of people are like that. It sounds stupid when you say it, but because you're what happened what happens when you when you eat, when you carbo load dopamine, right? You get you get that, like you said earlier, people are happy when they're full, right? So what do you do? You're upset, you're you're stressed out, someone pissed you off, or whatever the case might be. You go and you eat, and then you get that release and you feel good, right? You're rubbing your big belly and you're feeling okay, right? So, I mean, that's that's probably one of the biggest reasons we live in probably, I mean, I I can't really say for sure, because I mean I've only been alive since 81, but um, we probably live in the the most high stressful, highly stressful times in our history, and it's self-inflicted, really. People make a mountain out of a mohill on everything, everything's a controversial topic that we need to argue about, right? Everything's made right, left, and you know, everyone's being uh oppressed, and you know, like it's it's absurd the world we live in, but so it's it's self-inflicted, but these stresses that we put on ourselves can manifest physically.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Well, stress naturally makes people eat. And one of the things that a lot of the entertainment options we have have figured out is that when you get someone all riled up, they keep watching. You know, I mean, that's how all these algorithms are built, that's how the shows are built. They want you to be riled up because then you'll watch longer. You know, it's it's really about uh empirical data and math bot at the end of the day, and no one really cares if you're stressed out and therefore, you know, getting uh heavy because you're stress eating or or whatnot. You know, a couple things um I was just thinking about one side effect that's kind of interesting with the all the crazy inflation that's happened since COVID, right? Like all these prices going straight up is that a lot of people that used to eat uh significant amounts of fast food have sort of like reached a breaking point where it's no longer affordable, you know, where you go to McDonald's and what used to be, you know, six, seven dollars is now eighteen, nineteen dollars. And it's kind of like, how do you sustain that? You you can't, you know, so that's that's sort of a weird wrinkle that I think fast food and and I know the restaurant industry and their margins are so tight, anyways. Um, that I think in the future, you know, that's that's gonna be a really challenging thing for the restaurant, especially the fast food industry, to even stay around um to provide this food.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

Yeah, I remember when I was in my 20s, the Whopper Jr. was like $1.99. Right? We used to call them hockey pucks. We used to call them hockey pucks, right? They were hockey pucks. They're like a dollar, right? Yeah. Now, yeah, like I was I was driving by Burger King today, and there was a sign that said uh, or not today, sorry, on one yeah, there was a sign today, and it said uh Wednesday, Whopper Wednesday, right? Get a Whopper Meal for uh like $8.99.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

$8.99.

SPEAKER_00 39:39

Yeah, you go inside though and you order the Whopper Meal, and by the time you pay, you've probably paid $20, like somewhere between $17 to $20. For a meal, you walked in the side said $8.99. It's a it's a ridiculous. You're absolutely right. I don't know how it's how it would be sustainable. Uh, but that that goes into the whole money printing aspect of things, and you know, our super responsible government when it comes to our handling of our money, right? The same people we can trust, right?

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Oh, yeah, yeah. Trust them like I trust the pharmaceuticals.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

I uh somebody somebody I saw a video, somebody had said in this video, it was like a TikTok or something, and said, You realize that the same people who are giving you a shitty credit score and judging you on it are like trillions of dollars in debt themselves. Yes, yes, all of them. And they're looking at you saying, You got shitty credit, right?

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Yeah, I I I you know this is a bit of a sidebar, but it's worth mentioning because it's funny. I'm I think I told you this story once before with uh Capital One, but we haven't said it on the podcast. Is that I I had recently moved a bunch of accounts to Capital One, and I thought, yeah, this will be great. I can set them all up, it's easy, whatever. And one of them I set up was a business account, right? And I thought, okay, I you know, I have a couple rental properties, and I thought, you know, I'll I'll use this business account with those rental properties. And I got a random letter from Capital One saying, hey, call us. And like it didn't say anything, it was just like, hey, it's Capital One, call me. I was kind of like, what the hell is this? Like, okay. So I call them up and they're like, hey, so you've you you applied for a business account. I'm like, yeah. And they're like, all right, I gotta read you, you know, this three paragraphs worth of uh verbose garbage. Let me read it real quick. You know, they read me the three paragraphs, I'm like, okay, where are we going with this? And they're like, well, one of the questions you answered was that you said you receive checks and you cash them. I said, Yeah, I get rent checks from tenants and I put them in the bank. And they're like, they're like, wait a minute, well, that's that's something different. Are are you actually cashing them and taking the money or are you putting the money in the bank? And I said, Well, I'm putting the money in the bank. And they're like, Oh, okay, well, well, then you're fine. Okay, well, I'm just gonna go ahead and change what you said was yes to a no, and we're all good. All right, thanks for your time. Goodbye. And it was like, I was like, wait a minute. I'm like, okay, this is Capital One, and you're talking to me like you're broke, and you actually don't have any cash, yet you portray yourself as this you know a hundred billion dollar entity.

SPEAKER_00 42:31

Wait a second, yes.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Something something ain't quite adding up your capital one.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Well, it's no surprise. I mean, uh, an institution like that is not solvent. Big surprise, right? Right.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

And you know, truthfully, I mean, this could be its own podcast on its own. Uh yeah, you know, uh how how TradFi is against other other methods of exchanging money, etc., and and whatnot. But uh, but yeah, it's it's it's very true that the people that are ruining your credit are broke, you know.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Telling you you can't take a loan, right? Yeah. Yeah.

unknown 43:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

Then we get into the whole time. I mean don't even get me started on the topic about the fact that they tax the hell out of you when they can just print money. Right? It's yes, and you work all day, you work your ass off, and then they tax you, and then they print money anyway.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Yeah, when they laugh at you. When I left corporate America, um, I got my last check, right? And my last check was supposed to be a pretty large one, right? And it was cashing out all my benefits that I had, you know, built up over years and years and years. And the check was a lot less than what they originally told me the check was going to be, right? And I was like, huh, that's that's kind of weird. And so I asked them, like, you know, can I see this pay stub between uh here in the US, between federal income tax. Social Security, all you know, every little random thing they could think of. I paid like $17,000 in taxes on one check. Like, you gotta be kidding me, man. Like, seriously. And like you said, they can just print money whenever they want. You know, like, you know, Doge was a complete ruse. We've spent way more than anything that that ever saved. And so it's like, so it's the whole like rules for thee, not for me. You know, I mean it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

And it it all kind of ties together and connects to why people struggle. Again, it is so much cheaper in the West, anyway. It's so much cheaper to eat garbage than it is to eat healthy.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

Yeah. And I I you know what I think truthfully. I think where I know I know America has failed. I don't know if Canada is in the same boat on this, is that our food pyramid was backwards, right? There was a really, really funny um episode of South Park where you know they're looking at the food pyramid and they're like, Well, I have a secret. Like, all you have to do is take the pyramid and flip it upside down. And then all of a sudden it's actually accurate for how it should be. And you can see where the different food lobbies, uh, especially over time here in the US, have heavily influenced, you know, the things that kids are eating in school, that, you know, are being pushed to people, et cetera. And it comes out later that really, you know, you you should be having a diet that is not um, let me let me put it like this it's not necessarily a no-carb diet. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you need to have a diet that has a creates a low amount of blood glucose, aka blood sugar. That that's the key, is the blood sugar. Because everybody that's got a high blood sugar has high inflammation. And that's where all of our health problems come from, because the blood sugar, when you when you have too much, your body creates too much insulin to counteract it, and that's why you're inflamed. Okay. And so I think that's a huge problem, especially here in the US, is that no one's ever taught any of this. And no one knows anything. And especially in the US, everybody's an expert and no one knows what they're doing, right? And so you get a lot of this, like you get a lot of people that are just unwilling to move or or figure it out, and then all of a sudden they have some kind of health scare. And the problem is, is in conventional medicine, they really don't address nutrition ever, ever. They just want to treat it by let me give you some, you know, some blood pressure meds, let me give you some weight loss meds. But what we're not looking at is is kind of the underlying thing that's creating this inflammation. And that's really what it is, right? So if you can live your life in a way that you're eating a low sugar, um, not necessarily carb free. And you know, the other thing too is when you say you're you're gonna live a different way, you can still eat your pasta meal, but maybe instead of having pasta, you know, four days a week, maybe Sunday is pasta night and have at it. You know what I mean? Like, like it's okay to have moderation or you're never gonna stick with anything. But it really comes down to that high protein um like grains, right? Grains are a significant source of blood glucose. Everybody thinks when they're eating grains, they're eating healthy and they're not. No one knows this stuff in the US. And that's why we're all unhealthy. So, you know, if if you could stay away from that, um, with the rise of the industrial revolution, you've got a significant use of seed oils. So all these, all these seeds all over the place. We need to do something with the oil. What do we do? Put it in the food supply. Well, guess what? That's making everybody sick and unhealthy, and it's inflaming their arteries. So, you know, you you you start removing all this stuff, and all of a sudden you you feel like significantly better, you know?

SPEAKER_00 48:25

Um, yeah, I mean, uh I looked at it like this. Again, my recent visit to Japan. Uh, I mean, they eat a ton of carbs over there, obviously, right? But they don't have the obesity problems that the West has. Now, they have McDonald's and Burger King and all that stuff there as well, right? So I think it's more what we're putting in the foods. Like what is being allowed to be put into the food that we consume uh when it's being processed is like if you if you knew some of it, but most people, and listen, I'm one of them. Most people have the attitude of listen, I don't want to know what's in the hot dog, I just want to eat it. Leave me alone. I love hot dogs. Right? Like, but there's always that one dude that's like, Don't you know what's in a hot dog?

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Oh god, no, I don't want to know. No, don't care.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

Uh deliciousness.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

Well, you know, um, even even with wheat, right? Like wheat, uh, there was even a book, I think it was called Wheat Belly, and it was about how wheat has has led to a lot of weight issues with a lot of people. But what's really interesting about it is that in places like Italy, for example, in Europe, they don't have the same problems that we do, that when we eat this stuff, like your stomach kind of hurts or whatever. And it turns out that our wheat is like genetically different from theirs. Like we've modified it, you know. If you look back in time, it's kind of like every time that somebody modified something, that's where it really got messed up. Like Monsanto and their Roundup, right? Hey, you can spray the hell out of all your crops now because we gave you seeds that are spray resistant. Oh, great. So now we're all eating that, you know. I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Trust me, bro. It's all safe.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Trust me, bro. Yeah, it's all good, right? Uh, I mean, come on, man.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

Yeah, and it's you know, another thing is also it's not it's not just like how often you eat, you know, pasta, for example, but it's also portion control, right? Like for me, I have found also adjusting that instead of eating, you know, three just big meals a day, like when I look at the portions, whenever you're you know, you're reading something and say, Oh, it serves three people, it's like okay, but I don't know if what people you're talking about. Apparently, I'm three people, but you know, like a box of craft dinner, you know, they say feeds like three three or four people. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

Yeah, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

No. But portion if I eat five or six small meals, tiny meals, like half the size that I normally would, then one, I keep my metabolism working all day long, right? Like a muscle. It's going, it's going, it's going. And uh, and I'm not like gorging my stomach to the point where you know, my my physical stomach, not the outside, but the inside, my actual stomach, it gets stretched and it grows. And that's what most men anyway end up with that that beer belly look is because of that, right? They're engorging themselves and their stomach just pushes out, right? It's not necessarily, and that's why most of them are like, Well, I understand my belly's like rock hard. That's because it's not fat. You've engorged yourself that your stomach has stretched so far, and you got to shrink that back down. And how do you do that? Well, portion control. Your stomach will naturally kind of come back to a to a reasonable size if you can control the portions that you're eating, right? It'll be hard at first, you'll be hungry at first, but that's because you're used to engorging yourself, right?

SPEAKER_01 52:37

I think I think that's the uh that's like the bodybuilder plan, the six meals a day, and you know, kind of the high protein, and you know, you do need the carbs before you're working out and whatnot. And yeah, that makes sense. You know, I I don't see anything wrong with that. Um I think you know, another thing that I think has kind of helped me out is when I make like dinner, for example, the simpler the better. Like if it's like three main things, like chicken, green beans, rice, or whatever it is, right? It tends to be a healthier meal, also, right? It's more of a Whole Foods kind of diet as opposed to like this complex meal that's got all these different ingredients that may or may not be organic or whatnot, right? Um I think that kind of figures in a lot as well, is that some of us we we don't have we don't eat simple meals, but you know, the other thing with with a lot of this is it's it's kind of like preparation, right? Like you just got to be prepared and then it's easy and it's it's convenient, you know. And one of the uh one of the things I read, and there's a really good book called Atomic Habits, is you'll follow up with good habits when they're convenient and easy, period. And so it's kind of like if you have whole foods in your house, well, guess what you're gonna eat? Whole foods, you know, if if you got like a bunch of junk, like you know, cereal and crackers and all kinds of stuff, guess what you're gonna need, eat cereal and crackers and all that stuff. Um, even in our own family, I can think of uh I can think of uh my wife's aunt and uncle that they are skinny, they're underweight, they eat cereal for dinner, like six or like at least six six days a week. They eat cereal for dinner, right? That's the fruit loops, yes, and they are completely unhealthy, like they're not eating any like whole foods, they're eating like processed garbage, and then they wonder why they're always you know, why they've got all these health problems, and they're always, you know, going to the doctor for this thing or that thing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 54:57

Wow, yeah, it's a struggle for me. My wife loves to bake, and one of her favorite things to bake is desserts. So that's a tough one. Yeah, there's always like banana chocolate chip muffins being baked, and I'm sitting down here smelling them, and I'm like, uh killing me. This sounds like my house. Or like she makes like homemade buns, right? And you know the smell when it fills the house of freshly baked buns. Oh man, I'm just give me five of them. I don't even need butter, I'll shovel them down, right? Delicious, man. It's a struggle. She loves doing that. She loves baking cookies and cakes, and I'm just like, why are you doing this to me? Yeah, uh just say I don't love you anymore.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

It's funny. My uh my wife and her mother-in-law, they or or my mother-in-law, they found um a bakery, right? This local bakery that it's it's this family from like Guatemala, right? That just sort of they started baking out of their house and then it got a little bigger, and they got you know, some crappy little shop, and then they got a little bigger, and now they got a pretty good sized shop, right? And so, anyway, at their bakery, they've got like, you know, it's like here's a roll that's filled with bacon and cheese. It's like, oh my god, it's so good, you know. Like, here's one that's filled with gouda, you know, and then they'll get a two, three of these and bring them back. And I'm like, oh my god, like of course we're gonna eat these, you know.

SPEAKER_00 56:31

Yeah, I mean, I would judge you if you didn't.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

Right. I I can't not eat them. I mean, that would be rude, right?

SPEAKER_00 56:40

Yeah, it's hard, man. It's it's definitely a struggle. It's harder than some people. It's easy when you're already in the lifestyle and you already have that momentum and stuff, but you know, it's it's like starting a stalled engine, you know, it it can be very, very difficult. So we definitely have to have a little bit more um more compassion for people who want who want to change. One of the biggest problems is we've manufactured these fake uh these fake words like fat phobic and stuff like that. And how dare you tell someone like listen, the science is the science, right? If you are if you are plus size, if I mean you're either healthy or you're not, right? It's not about whether you're attractive, it's not superficial, whether, you know, that's that's not what it's about. I mean, for me anyway, I mean some people it is, but so no one's saying, Oh, you're fat and ugly, right? They're saying, listen, you're gonna die sooner than you should, is what they're telling you, right? And you can have you can be miserable two ways in life, right? When it comes to your health, you can be healthy and miserable because it's hard work, or you can be completely out of shape and miserable because you don't like the person you see in the mirror, and you're insecure. It's one of the two. I don't care. There's I know that there's so many plus size people out there that say, I'm not I'm perfectly comfortable. There's no way when you get up, I mean, and you've got these these celebrities who who font it, like Lizzo, right? She was like front and center, plus size, yes, you're beautiful, it's not unhealthy. Pops on Ozempic and loses a bunch of weight. Right. What the hell happened there?

unknown 58:32

Right?

SPEAKER_00 58:33

So suddenly, suddenly it's you know, why why suddenly are you losing weight if you know, because it's your health, you don't want to die sooner, right?

SPEAKER_01 58:43

Yeah, yeah, I I think what you're getting at here is the something we haven't talked about with weight is the mental health side of it, right? And I think that's a huge part about it. You know, a lot of people are carrying a lot of weight because of mental health and because they're holding on to something that they never quite got over, right? There's something there. Um, you know, kind of going back to the Peloton I was talking about earlier. One of the things that's happened with the Peloton that was completely unexpected for me was the mental health that is constantly projected and trumpeted at you from the various instructors on the Peloton. Like, I didn't expect that at all. I mean, I I got the bike like, hey, you know, I want to, I want to try this thing out. Let's see how it is. I don't know if I'll like it or not, you know. And very quickly it was like, wow, like like this positive messaging constantly of like, yes, you can do it. Yes, you are stronger than you think. Like, like, yes, like you didn't feel like coming out here today, and here you are, you know, and you're like, okay, and then and then they start getting beyond that. It's like, hey, you know, that crappy job you're working at, you don't need to be there anymore either. And you're like, you know what? No, I think you're right. I don't need to be there. You know, it's it's like that constant positive messaging. I mean, like when I'm in there, like I told you, I'm I'm a gym rat at heart, and I get like dialed in on that bike. I mean, I love it. And I and I love that positive, constant affirmations that I think a lot of people today don't get hit. And a lot of people, you know, they're not they're not seeing anybody for mental health. A lot of people are really just kind of isolated, you know, they're isolated, they're alone. Um, they don't really have a support system to push them above adversity. And so it's it's a lot easier to just sit back and just sort of let things happen. When I think truthfully, anybody is is capable if they if they want to, you know, going back to your your point about intent, if you have the intent, then you're more than capable. And and even on the Peloton, this is kind of funny too. So since I've been on there, I've been on there for over a year. Not to be egotistical or braggadocious, nothing like that, but I'm in probably the top 1% of all the riders on the whole platform. And it's somewhere over 300,000 people.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:17

But that's intentional, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:19

It is intentional because I cycle every day and I love it. I I I just I just enjoy it. You know, I really like um doing it. But but the funny thing in saying that is that in any given ride, I'm I'm hardly ever first. I'm usually like in the top five, top ten for that day. Or if it's a ride that's been posted for months, maybe I'll be in the top 1,000 or something like that, right? You know who's in the top? People in their 60s. Wow. Seriously, that that have just like like lapped me, you know, like that you sit there and you go, wait a minute, is this possible? And like, yes, it is. Like there are plenty of people that do just amazing things that you'd be completely shocked by. And so I I think the point is like, you know, if you want to lose weight, if you want to just get more muscular, you know, if you if you want to just feel better in general, just the endorphins you get from working out, um, if you want those positive affirmations, like there are things out there to do just like that. And like I said, when you make it convenient, you're more likely to follow up with that good habit than if it's not convenient.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

Well, I did a TikTok about a week ago talking about this a little bit, um, because I wasn't feeling good. I was feeling I woke up, I was feeling groggy. You know, those days you're just like, I'm just in no mood to go to the gym or exercise or anything, right? I feel lazy, I'm drained, I got no energy, I'm groggy, I'm all these things. I'm just gonna put on uh the flash from Netflix, and I'm just gonna sit around and watch that, right? Yeah, and he can do the running for me. So I made a TikTok about it, and I said, you know, again, as as a former athlete, I thought about that and my experience, and I can tell you that those days, those are very, very important days, and not for the reason that people think, they're important days because I promise you this, try it, try it out a handful of times, and you'll be like, holy crap, he was right. Those days are the best workouts you will ever have in your life. You will leave the gym feeling so good, and it's there's a reason for it. It's because you you go from one extreme to the other. That's the reason for it, right? You go from feeling below average, groggy, tired, lazy, no energy, don't want to to you get going, you get to the gym, the blood's pumping, the heart's going, right? The the endorphins start getting released, and what happens? All of a sudden, you feel amazing. You went from the worst you could possibly feel to the best you could possibly feel in about an hour and a half, right? Those are the best workouts you're ever gonna have. So, whenever I feel that way, I'm like, man, I don't want to even hear the word Jim. I'm like, I'm going because I know two hours from now, I'm gonna feel phenomenal. I'm gonna be in a great mood. I'm gonna, you know, like so. Try it. If you're listening to this, I'm telling you right now, try it. You're gonna be surprised. You say, holy crap, Rob was right. And if if you don't, then I don't know what to tell you.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Yeah, one of my uh one of my top Peloton instructors, there's like 20 of them on there, right? One of the guys, he says that regularly, that he's like, you know, I know you you have those days, you don't feel like biking, you don't want to be here, you don't want to do this, but he's he'll he says every time he's like, There's not many times that you finish riding this bike that you feel worse than where you started. Like everybody feels significantly better, you know, which is why it's like addicting that to get into that thing and to do it just constantly, because you want to feel you want to feel good, you want to feel that high of of feeling, you know, like you said, I mean, you and I are right about the same age. Now, granted, you're you're how how old did you say you were turning? 45? 45, yeah. Yeah, so you're ancient turning 45. Me this year, I'm turning 44. So I'm I'm the young guy here. And so thanks for that. I feel bad. Just just a little age joke there. We probably have the same birthday for all I know, because my birthday is in the summer. two.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:01

Mine's June 15th.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:03

Okay, I'm July 25th. I don't know why. Yeah. But anyway, you know, even like I said, um even my dad, so my dad's 82, and um I have a a treadmill at the house also. And he started getting on the treadmill and he really liked it. So he bought himself one. And we both have like the Apple Watch. So it pings us back and forth when I work out or he works out. So we can constantly talk to each other like, hey, saw you just stood in a mile there on the treadmill. You know, all right. Yeah. So you know again I think that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:41

That's you know that keeps you both motivated, right? Well Jesse worked out so I guess I got it, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:46

Yeah, yeah. And and case in point, I mean he's 82. So uh you know if if he can do it, then what why can't I do it? You know, like what am I doing? You know?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:56

Well there's an interesting video I watched from Arnold Schwarzenegger and um he he he made a it made a lot of sense what he said. He said listen if you if you've never been to the gym or you've never you you're new to the gym or whatever the case might be and you just one of the hardest things is actually getting up and actually going to the gym. That's really the hard part it's not exercising when you're there it's actually getting up making a habit out of getting up and going right so he said what you want to do you go to a gym you sign up right day number one for the for the first like week that you have your membership he said you get up you drive to the gym every day you get changed you walk around the gym look at some equipment for 10 15 minutes just look at the equipment watch what people are doing go get changed and go home don't even touch anything right and then you do that for a week maybe two weeks you you make it a little bit longer he said he said you do that every single day no expectation of working on eventually number one eventually you're gonna start trying out some of the machines you're gonna start feeling comfortable being there in the environment because you realize you know a lot of people are insecure they think oh because they're new there they they feel like they don't fit in or like are people looking at me and stuff but when you're there every single day for a couple of weeks you start to feel like you belong there you start to feel like a fly on the wall almost right and uh you can start to dabble with some of the machines and stuff like that right um and the whole time you can be researching online at home what kind of workouts you want to do and he said so the hardest part the reason you do that is that you develop the habit of getting up and going every day whether you're working out or not you now are getting up and going every single day to the point where it just becomes instinct and habit to you gotta go right and eventually you'll just naturally start to work out and exercise while you're there right and I was like that's genius actually right it's really it really really is because it makes you feel comfortable before you start doing things and then in the environment you realize nobody cares that you're there. I mean when I'm at the gym I got my headphones on it could be empty it could be you know 20 people I have no idea I could care less what the person beside me is doing or even whether they exist right I got my Rob Bailey going in my earphones and that's all I need to know right um so I I thought that was genius and you know the the there's people who say why don't I another another quote from Arnold if the president of the United States has time to exercise for an hour a day if the pope has an hour a day to exercise so do you right it's priorities at the end of the day and what it comes down to is a lot of people not all but a lot of people they get home from work they're exhausted they're tired and they prioritize Netflix or reading or not being in motion because their body's tired from being at work all day right that's what it really is.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:07

Maybe you get up early go to the gym before you go to work yeah yeah you know you and I haven't talked about this but Arnold has always been one of my heroes and uh I I recently read his book like the seven tools for life be useful and talk talk about just an impressive person just overall I mean you know he owns his his fuck ups which we know what they are right but at the same time he also takes takes responsibility takes accountability steps up he's not perfect but uh he he's got like a drive that really pushes you and kind of going back to what I was talking about with that habits book one of the things that they discuss in the habits book is that a bad habit is started when it's two in a row. So it's okay to miss one day to the gym. It's okay to not exercise one day but don't make it two. Yeah the moment you make it two that that's when everything goes to shit. So the point is is that yeah and and if you want to have good habits just be consistent with it. And one of the things that the author mentions in that book is says he says don't break the streak have that mantra in your head I'm not breaking my streak I'm not breaking the streak you know and so if if you can kind of think about it like in those terms I think you can be significantly motivated you know and and even you know going back to Arnold I mean how old's he now he's in his 70s he's gotta be near 80 and uh he still works out he still works out every single day you know um that's that's just what he does that's who he is that's part of his makeup and he feels good doing it you know yeah his his mindset is always the same thing I've always looked up to him as well his mindset has always just been like you said you know always make sure you're being useful you know um and and working towards something never giving up you're gonna fail I remember watching the Eddie Hall documentary on Netflix did you watch that? Um I don't think I've seen that one. Okay well spoiler alert for anybody who's who's listening right so you know who Eddie Hall is right world strongest man yes yes okay so he in this documentary this is before he became world strongest man right yeah he um in the documentary he said like he had three three things on his bucket list three things he wanted to achieve in his life he wanted to set the world record for the highest deadlift he wanted to win world strongest man or uh yeah uh yeah world strongest man and uh he wanted to meet Arnold Schwarzenegger right wait a minute are you hold on are you talking about Eddie Hall from the UK setter you're talking about yes okay yes I did watch that yeah I I know Eddie Hall you see you see the end where he's he's competing to set the world record for the deadlift and Arnold Schwarzenegger turns the corner starts screaming in his face yeah yeah that that was that was really impressive and you know the whole time publicly he was going back and forth against Thor uh the mountain from Game of Thrones for who could break it and whatnot and I I thought that was really impressive yeah yeah and you know what like tears tears came to my eyes I was so when that when I watched that happen uh knowing he's you know living two of his life goals at the exact same time and it's like if Arnold Schwarzenegger turns the corner and starts screaming in your face that you better put get that deadlift up you damn sure better get it up right yeah you can't I can't not get it up now you've kind of put me in a position here where yeah that's that that's really funny you know um so where my parents live they actually the world strongman came out there to the beach uh one year right and I I randomly found out about it and I was like oh shit I'm like world strongman's gonna be like right in our backyard I'm like we're going you know I'm like I there's no way I'm not going. So I went and uh at at the time they were doing like the keg tossed. I don't know if you you've ever seen the keg toss. Yeah so so they're at the beach and they got this you know this a bar you know on two posts and the bar is easily like 25 feet up in the air and these guys you know they swing the keg between their legs and up over the back to see how many kegs they can toss over the bar. Like it it was insane. And uh you know he was there and Thor was there and it it was it was just like wow like these guys are so impressive and so dialed in you know talking about uh Thor for a second you know he was I think he's six eight six ten six eleven he's huge right the mountain and he's always been a bodybuilder but at one point in time um right around when he got married and and I think right right around his his wife had their kid was that he decided he was going to be a boxer. I don't know if you saw this or not. Yeah yeah where he lost all the weight and and it was like he was still working out and training every single day but he he he just had like a completely different physique. I mean he was kind of like it was a little weird because it was like okay like like I don't know if that's necessarily what you're put on this planet to do is be a boxer.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:48

But it was still impressive. Didn't he him and Eddie Hall have a uh exhibition boxing match yeah they had a beef yeah the two of them don't like each other yeah um but friend of mine I really liked Eddie Hall um oh yeah yeah he's definitely a great guy I loved his documentary he seems like he's got a great sense of humor he puts out all kinds of comedy videos now about the gym and stuff like that and you know he'll see some girl doing some workout and he'll do it too and he's like posing like a girl and he's got a good sense of humor about him.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:22

Friend of mine actually went to Thor's gym and got uh a couple years ago and he mailed it to me uh uh he got me like a t-shirt from Thor's gym and uh an autographed picture Thor signed you know hey Rob you know blah blah blah and my buddy Melator's like yeah I got that for you I'm like that is epic man I like that's really cool you know I I I think if I was to get a a picture of Thor I don't know if I'd want any of his um strongman stuff I would want like the picture of him like crushing the guy's skull in Game of Thrones where he's like blasting his eyeballs out you know the viper where he killed the viper where he jammed his thumbs in his eyes like oh my god that was insane I believe we refer to him as Mr.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:11

Fantastic now yeah this is true the Mandalorian right exactly yeah I'm I'm jazzed up about the Marvel movies man coming out this summer Spider-Man and Doomsday but we'll get into that another time for now uh we are out of time brother uh for today so we will get back at it in the next couple of days it's Sunday today so uh we'll see you on Wednesday for another another episode same bat time same bat channel absolutely guys let us know uh what you think about our conversation today did we miss something do you agree do you disagree with anything that we had to say we're always looking to hear your opinions guys so and thank you so much for supporting the podcast as always give us a five star review and see you guys in the next one God bless until next time thank you