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Paradigm Shift: Ancient Egypt conspiracy theories PART 1
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Big Rob & Jesse Dive VERY Deep Into Ancient Egypt conspiracy theories. Do Not Miss This Amazing Episode,
All right, welcome back to the Paradigm Shift. I am, of course, Big Rob coming back at you with Jesse. What's going on, buddy?
SPEAKER_00Hey man, glad to be back. I know it is Friday. This is a uh special edition of the shift that's coming to you on a Friday. I know uh our schedule's kind of been uh changing up a little bit, but you know, it kind of matches the show. We change things up and uh we'll see how it goes, right?
SPEAKER_01Yep, exactly. Gotta find something that fits the schedules, right? Yeah. But we're still dropping two a week on you. So today's episode, very, very fascinating one. Again, we're gonna go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole, as according to the views by you guys, that is the more popular direction you want us to go into. So, we're gonna talk about what today, Jesse.
SPEAKER_00We're talking about ancient Egypt. So I hope you're ready to walk like an Egyptian.
SPEAKER_01There's a lot to unpack here, man. A lot to unpack, so much controversy.
SPEAKER_00Uh, one before you get into it, fun fact. I actually dressed up as an Egyptian one year for Halloween. Fun fact.
SPEAKER_01Is this before or after they became popular to cancel people for stuff like this?
SPEAKER_00Definitely before. No, I did not use any any kind of paint, though. Nothing like that, just full costume.
SPEAKER_01You gotta have paint, man. What are you doing? Um, well, I mean, we got quite a bit to get into here. The number one, uh, the number one conspiracy theory when it comes to um ancient Egypt, obviously, is aliens building the pyramids. The great pyramids and others were too advanced for Bronze Age humans, uh, so extraterrestrials must have helped or done it entirely. Proponents cite precise alignments, massive stone blocks, and lack of obvious construction records, popularized uh by Eric von Danuk Danukens?
SPEAKER_00Danagen.
SPEAKER_01Danigan, sorry. Um, so mainstream view built by tens of thousands of skilled Egyptian workers. I believe they're referred to as slaves, not workers, to pretty that up, right? Uh so uh uh, but we have to, yeah, I'm not even gonna get into that. We have to pretend that slavery was invented in in the US, so so we can't use that word for that. But nevertheless, uh what do you think, man? Aliens creating the pyramids, was it too complicated for um how do they refer to them? Skilled Egyptian workers.
SPEAKER_00That is a great question that uh I don't know if anybody knows the true answer to. So for context here, right? The quarries where they got these blocks from are like what like a hundred miles away. I mean, it's it's a far distance where they got these massive, massive stone blocks. And the theory is that they somehow put like tree tree logs or something under these blocks, and somehow rolled them over to the Nile, and then somehow floated them all the way down the river, all the way to Egypt. They got them there, and then somehow they dragged them up sand, sand, you know. I don't know if you've ever ran in sand, but it is a nightmare. So somehow they dragged it uphill on sand to to build the pyramid. You know, I uh I don't know. I I don't I don't know about that one. That that feels like a bridge too far.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it it really does. For me, I do subscribe to the concept of either aliens building them or or helping build them, or uh a civilization that lived on this planet before us that uh has since either left or been wiped out.
SPEAKER_00Are you referring to the civilization of giants?
SPEAKER_01Well, there is that theory as well, yes. Uh, I mean, they're in the Bible, right? Um, that giants actually helped build the pyramids. And we see we see uh you know pictures of giant remains and bones and stuff like that, fossils, if you will.
SPEAKER_00Even if you're a giant, though, I mean let's let's let's go down that rabbit hole a little bit, right? So let's say your average person is six feet tall-ish. I mean, I would say the last hundred years they were shorter than that, but you know, ancient Egypt, let's let's just say they were bigger. Let's say that they were like the size of a quote, Bigfoot, eight to nine feet tall. Could they move these massive blocks if they were even that big, right? I I don't see how you would do that. I mean, and again, you know, I think of things like uh like how do they move heavy stuff today? Like they'll put a chain around it, like a steel chain, and they drag it with hydraulic machinery. They didn't have any of that. There's no there's no big chain, you know. I mean, what were they using? Rope? I mean, come on now, rope?
SPEAKER_01Where'd they get rope from in a desert?
SPEAKER_00You know, I don't know if you've ever tried to uh kind of funny story, you know. If you've ever tried to like tow something with your truck, or if you tied rope around like your tow hitch and tried to like pull a tree or something like that, half the time the rope like wants to snap. So you're telling me, you know, we have this like 80-ton block of stone that we're pulling with a rope. And and likewise, I mean, think about this. Here's a funny story for you. When we moved into my house, um, there were three movers, adult, adult men, right, and me. And I told them, I was like, hey, the upright piano, it's going upstairs. And they looked at me like I lost my mind, right? I was like, nope, we're doing it. And they were like, oh shit, you know. So so at my house, the stairwell is not straight up. There's a landing in the middle, so you got to turn, you got to get to the top, etc. Right. So two of the guys are above, and they have like almost like harnesses like kind of around their neck to kind of try to lift this thing from the bottom, and then me and another guy are on the bottom pushing as hard as we can, and it's it's like lifting an elephant, right? That was just a piano up literally like I don't know, 12 stairs, you know. You think about like the Great Pyramid, like that thing's like what, like 500 feet tall. Yeah. I mean, even if you were pushing, you you can only fit so many people pushing it, right? So you almost have to be dragging it, but then how would they drag it without it going down the hill and like literally killing everybody that's pushing it? By the way, in sand. Yeah, in sand.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and how do you get it up block for block, like up the steps? Like that that last stone at the top. How the heck did that get up there?
SPEAKER_00Well, well, and and you know, they they try to kind of uh like the mainstream tries to push this idea almost like scaffolding, right? Like, oh, they just built like a scaffolding around the thing all the way to the top made of sand, and they just somehow dragged it all the way up there. 500 feet up.
SPEAKER_01Well, let us not forget, as well, though, that from what I've read, the pyramids were built with such precision and accuracy that they could probably could not recreate them today, even with today's technology, they couldn't rebuild them. True, they're so precise and so accurate, like with and you just eyeballed it, right?
SPEAKER_00Because you didn't have any of the tech we have today, so you had to eyeball it. Well, and and and think about this also. Here's another great point. Have you ever had a house built? I don't know if you've ever gone through this or not. Have you ever done that?
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I have. Okay. Now, when they sell you on having a house built, the idea is pretty simple. It's like, hey, you're getting a new house. Everything's done, it's brand new. You don't need to do anything. You get to pick, you you know, you pick what you want, and it's built, and life is easy, right? It's not how it is at all.
SPEAKER_01Life's not easy.
SPEAKER_00Life isn't easy now, now. So how it really works is there's like a GC, the general contractor, and then there's all these subcontractors, right? And in the home building world, the whatever job they're working on, that's the job they care about the least. Really, what they're thinking about is the next job, right? So when they're at your house working on it, they are literally doing the fastiest, the fastest, shittiest job possible on your house so that they can go to the next house, right? And it's like this across all the trades, you know, whether it's the plumber, the electrician, HVAC, painting, uh, you know, framing, all that stuff, right? I I mean, they literally don't put any care into anything. Like, if you've ever had a construction crew build anything on your house, they hide like drink bottles in every nook and cranny all over your house, like all this crap that they got at like 7-Eleven that morning. They just stuff it in the wall somewhere. Um, you know, they'll stuff it on the ground. Oh yeah, oh yeah. This is what they do, they just stuff it everywhere. So my point is is slave slave labor is what would have been building the pyramids, right? This isn't like the best, the brightest, the sharpest, you know, the most dialed-in group we've got. I mean, this is like the grunts, you know, that are that are dragging these blocks. And like you said, with the precision that it's done, those two things don't match up at all, you know.
SPEAKER_01You can't have people half-assing it, nailing the precision and eyeballing such such deadly accuracy in terms of uh the structure itself. So, where do we land? For me, I'm like I'm landing on aliens, man. I'm landing on aliens.
SPEAKER_00Hey, I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens.
SPEAKER_01Let me let me correct it. I I think it's one of three, okay? Okay, and I'll list them in order of likelihood that I think. Like the most likely is a different civilization was here. There are remnants from that. Number two would be aliens, and the lat the least likely, in my opinion, would be slaves building it.
SPEAKER_00I tend to agree with you. I think you're I think you're probably right on this one, you know. And I don't know if you've ever seen the ancient Egyptians always had elongated skulls. Like you ever see the movie Alien, where it's got the really long head? Yeah, that's like what they had. They like legitimately had like a long, elongated head, you know.
SPEAKER_01Interesting, interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you know, I think there's something I could be wrong on this, but I think there's something with the Anunnaki that it's like the ancient Egyptians are tied to like the quote sky people, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there you go. Aliens. I'm not saying it's aliens, but it's aliens. Number two on our list. The Great Sphinx is much older than claimed. Water erosion theory. So geologist Robert uh shock, shook, shock, uh, argued that the deep vertical erosion patterns on the sphinx's body and enclosure were caused by heavy rainfall from a much wetter period, 10,500 to 7,000 BCE or earlier, not wind or sand from the old kingdom, which is 25,000 or 2500 BCE. This would make it one of the oldest monumental structures on Earth. Mainstream view is the Sphinx was carved during uh Car Kafri's reign. Okay, as part of his pyramid comp pyramid complex, the erosion is explained by other geo uh geological processes and later repairs. Do you think that could be real? Go ahead. Do you think the Sphinx is older than we think that it is from a much wetter time in Egypt?
SPEAKER_00Yes. I mean, if you think about that theory, right? He's saying the grooves are like lines coming down it. So if you think about like a dust storm that you would have in the desert that they have all the time, it's literally gonna blow like a cloud of dust at this thing and slowly kind of eat away at it. But if the grooves are very pronounced, then he may be right on that one, truthfully.
SPEAKER_01That's how water breaks something down.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. You know, and you know, the other interesting thing with the Sphinx is that the um Pharaoh's head that's on there, it's like the Betelgeuse head, right? It's like small, it doesn't match the proportion of the body, right? Um, I don't know if you've seen this theory about the Sphinx as Anubis, the jackal theory, meaning that it it actually had the uh head of like a lion, right? And I think that that's probably true. Like if you look at that in the picture, and for those listening, the head is more well defined than the body, which tells me the the whole thing was probably there a lot longer, and the body was in that style a lot longer before they chiseled off whatever the original head was and put the pharaoh's face on there. And for to have it flare out like with the headdress, yeah, it it would almost have to be something like a lion, right? Like it wouldn't be the dog because the you know the face wouldn't match what ultimately is there, so it would have to be something like a lion.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree, I agree a hundred percent. Very, very interesting. So I agree, and let us not forget, too, that climate was very, very different as our planet continues uh to move chronologically. I mean, you know, places like the Arctic were once like the Amazon, right? Very hot, very, you know, so very, very possible there was a it was a much wetter, as he said it, much wetter time uh in the in the country.
SPEAKER_00So I I don't know if do you ever watch Skinwalker Ranch, the show?
SPEAKER_01I've seen it posted on my Android box, but I I haven't watched it. It looks interesting.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so one of the interesting things that they've found, and this ranch is in the middle of Utah, okay? So it's like desert type of terrain, you know, kind of wild, etc. And they have this mesa there that there's all this controversy around it, and is something buried inside, and you know, there's all this weird stuff that happens there. It's really, really weird place, right? Well, one of the things that they actually that this is true fact pulled out of the mesa was like a green goo. Came out of like a hard rock mesa in the middle of the desert. They're pulling out green goo, all right. And they had it scientifically tested. And guess what that green stuff was?
SPEAKER_01Ectoplasm.
SPEAKER_00That would have been really funny. Maybe some Nickelodeon slime, right? Um ectoplasm, that was a good one. Um, no, it was ancient underwater plant life that is buried inside this desert mountain mesa in the middle of it.
SPEAKER_01Wow, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So so that tells you that something like ancient Egypt going back, I mean, depending on how far back we're going, there could have been a heck of a lot more water there, you know.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, we're talking 7,000 to 10,500 BCE or earlier.
SPEAKER_00So yeah. It it could be earlier. I mean, honestly, who knows, truthfully, you know?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I agree with that. Uh where I land on that, I agree with it. I think water damage, not sand damage, is I agree.
SPEAKER_00Okay, that one's settled.
SPEAKER_01Number three on the list. The hall of records lies under, lies hidden under the Sphinx. Um psychic Edgar uh Casey Casey, yeah. Yep, and uh and later writers like Graham Hancock claimed a secret chamber or vast library beneath the Sphinx's paws contains records of a lost advanced civilization, often Atlantis uh prophecies, uh prophecies and the true history of humanity. Some claim modern authorities have blocked exploration. My question, my first question would be with this one why would um modern authorities block exploration? Why would they not want the answers to potential answers to the lost history of mankind?
SPEAKER_00I think that's a little simpler than maybe you think. So I would say with that, it sounds easy, but it's probably not, to be honest. Like it's probably very hard to get a permit to dig, to dig under something like the Sphinx that's literally been there who knows how long.
SPEAKER_01Let's just yeah, let's just tear up the ground around it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I mean, there ain't no way that they're gonna let you compromise the foundation that the Sphinx is sitting on. So, again, how are you gonna ever prove that? You know, every every good conspiracy theory like this, that there's like a linchpin somewhere, and I think this is a linchpin that I don't see them ever approving you to dig under there, ever.
SPEAKER_01Um well, didn't you talk about before we went live some technology you had mentioned, and we're gonna talk later about it, that was able to see kind of into the ground.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, a ground penetrating radar, right? Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they did uh identify with the Sphinx as well anomalies in the ground, right? Like when you um do ground penetrating radar, you can see it pretty easily because basically the lines are sort of straight, and then in an area where something is, it'll be like jagged or totally different. Like there's something totally different down there, right? Um, so there could be something underground there. I I do agree with that. Now, my only problem with this one would is the hall of records idea, like like let's say a library, right? Why? I mean, that would have to be really important, right? Back then. I mean, that would that would have been really important. Like even things like the uh, I don't know if if you know, like the Dead Sea Scrolls, all these scrolls that they found in these like ancient caves and stuff, you know, they're in very hard to reach, impossible to get to areas because they're protected, right? So, why would you put this highly valuable library of material under something that's an iconic like beacon that everybody would go to? That doesn't make sense to me. Terms of like risk, right? Like, I feel like that library would be somewhere else.
SPEAKER_01I have an interesting kind of thought on it. As opposed to a library, how do we know that those anomalies under the ground by the Sphinx aren't just more tombs? Because really, we're just like, what is the basis for the library theory? What makes them think that it's specific? Because that's a pretty specific guess as to what's down there. Out of all the things that could possibly be, it could be a vault, it could be a tomb, it could be it could be one of so many other things. Okay, you ready to go down the rabbit hole? It could be a prison. Why a library specifically? That's very specific.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so the library comes from the psychic, right? He's the one that saw the library, and they call this um remote viewing, right? So that's what he did. He remote viewed, and according to him, there's a library, okay. Now, going down the rabbit hole here, it depends on what you think of psychics or what you think of consciousness. Okay.
SPEAKER_01We should do a show on that. Maybe find a special guest psychic.
SPEAKER_00We could. This would be very interesting. Okay. So uh I will just say that I've been reading um one of Dan Brown's most recent books is called The Secret of Secrets. And it has to do with this idea of consciousness, right? And the idea essentially is that the human brain is like a radio, right? Now, like the radio that you would normally have that you change the dial to different stations, same thing with us, it's only set on one station. But are there other stations broadcasting music? Yes, right. And so the point is, I know this is going way out in left field, but if you could change your dial to a different station, then theoretically there could be something else going on here. And that's basically what a psychic is doing. They're saying that, hey, this library's here. Now, that being said, with Edgar Casey, um, the story with him was that he would go under hypnosis. And when he was hypnotized, that's when he would have these visions and talk about all this stuff, right? So could he have simply had a creative imagination? Sure. You know. You know, one thing with some psychics that, you know, you got to push back on psychics a little bit is sometimes I feel like they move the goalposts to sort of fit their narrative, right? So could he be maybe right, maybe wrong, maybe a little bit. Um, I would say that more so what makes more sense to me with the Sphinx is that whatever's underneath it is the foundation, right? So if you're if you're thinking about just building in general, like when they build a high rise or anything like that, the first thing they do is drive pylons into bedrock. And the reason why is so the building is stable, right? The Sphinx is in the middle of the desert. So so I don't know if you've ever tried to build something out of stone and rocks and put it in the middle of the beach on beach sand. It's it's it's not gonna hold up at all. The whole thing's gonna crumble because there's no foundation, right? So whatever is under the Sphinx, honestly, has to be some some sort of foundation. Has to be.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, you you you you got a good point there, because otherwise you would think that I mean time would kind of you know erode that uh it's not sturdy underneath.
SPEAKER_00Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, for crying out loud, I remember growing up, um, my parents had this guy that lived across the street from them, and every I don't know, every like two, three years, he had to uh re-level his house and and you know mess with the foundation under his house because it was the ground was just not it wasn't solid, right? So imagine in sand.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and think about this. Here's another wrinkle. So, in the seven wonders of the ancient world, one of them was the lighthouse of Alexandria, which was in Alexandria, Egypt, and that lighthouse is no longer standing, you know why?
SPEAKER_01The ground wasn't sturdy, earthquake, correct.
SPEAKER_00So if you think about the sphinx and you know that head hanging out and everything else, earthquake, that area is susceptible to earthquake, it's still standing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, how did just by law of averages you would think that an earthquake would would crumble it to the ground?
SPEAKER_00You would think. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, so where do we land on it? Is there a hidden library to the true history of mankind, origins of mankind? So basically, for me, you're just saying there's a Bible in there, but I digress. Go ahead. What do you think?
SPEAKER_00I I think there's a lot more underground there than we're aware of. A lot. And I don't know if we'll ever get to all of it, to be honest. So could there be a library underground? Yes. Do I think it's under the Sphinx? Personally, no, I don't.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I would agree with that. I would agree with that. So we land on no library under the Sphinx. Somewhere. Somewhere. Not under the Sphinx.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh number four. Ancient Egyptians had aircrafts or encountered UFOs. Uh carvings in the temple of Seti at uh Abydos supposedly show modern looking helicopters, planes, submarines, and other vehicles. Theories say this proves ancient Egyptians possessed or witnessed advanced flying technology, possibly from aliens. I'm not saying it's aliens. This kind of bleeds into the number our first theory. So I would have to say yes to this. I would have to say that they I'm not gonna go as far as to say that ancient Egyptians possessed uh all-terrain vehicles and flying vehicles, but I would go as far as to say they definitely uh saw them so often that they were commonplace, like the way we see an airplane flying or a car driving down the street.
SPEAKER_00Hmm. Interesting. I would say um, you know, I don't I don't know, are are you a musician at all? Have you ever played an instrument or anything?
SPEAKER_01I used to play guitar when I was younger.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So, you know, the scale of music is A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and then it repeats. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, all up and down the fretboard of the guitar. Uh, same thing on piano, every instrument. It all repeats, right? Every once in a while, um, you'll hear about you know, some song that's supposedly ripped off another song, and somebody complains like, hey, they ripped off my chorus. Well, where else is it supposed to go? Like it's it's there's like a natural flow. It music is like a language and it naturally flows into the next place, right? So, what I'm getting at here is that I think with those carvings and with shapes in nature, they naturally flow certain directions and certain designs would come about. Now, am I saying that? Yeah, I mean, am I saying that that's a helicopter? I don't know, but it looks exactly like a helicopter. Yeah, see, this is funny. You know, you want to say, like, nah, there's no way, but then you look at the picture, and my god, that looks like a helicopter.
SPEAKER_01What else could that be? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And the one in the middle definitely looks like a plane, and the thing above it, you know, maybe it's a submarine. I don't know. I don't know what that thing is.
SPEAKER_01Um, it's kind of hard to deny. Yeah. The sheer, I don't believe in coincidence, and the sheer odds must be astronomical that they would just take those three uh glyphs that they would so accurately portray vehicles that exist today by coincidence, right?
SPEAKER_00Well, and and think about this too. Like, there's hieroglyphs all over ancient Egypt, like all over the place, right? In this one specific area, you have the multiple hierogly glyphs right next to each other that all look like vehicles. What are the odds of that? Again, it's gotta be next to zero, you know?
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SPEAKER_00Uh I I don't know. I I gotta say, I feel like they saw that somehow. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the the odds are just too astronomical that they would be able to nail something so accurately. I don't know. For me, yes, they witnessed these things. They didn't possess them, in my opinion. They definitely witnessed them.
SPEAKER_00Hey, here's another rabbit hole for you. So back then, ancient Egypt, there could have potentially been more people that were supposedly psychic, right? Um, and if that were true, who's to say that one of them, like let's say a seer type person, didn't see that and then put it on the glyph, right? So my my point is that maybe there was somebody there who was psychic that sort of like saw the future and put that on the hieroglyphs. That could be true. Like, like we're saying, like, I'm not saying that all those things were there at the time they were there, but maybe someone saw that as the future, right? And I I don't know if I've told you this, but there was a uh there was a guest that was on Joe Rogan's podcast that he was like a scientist, and they were talking about um psychics and their abilities and and whatnot, and they were able to they did a test, I think, in in the he was explaining that that they tested something like over 3,000 people, right? They wanted to test psychics in particular, and they wanted to test their brain physiology, right? And so out of these 3,000, they narrow it down to 10 that they legitimately think are psychic. And of those 10, they had a different physiology than most other modern people. And through their genetics research, he was saying they were able to trace it back hundreds of years to when this certain genetic anomaly kind of stopped for the most part or lessened, and it directly uh coincided with the Inquisition. So basically, yes. So this was true. This is based on science, actual real science, that supposedly at the time of the Inquisition, when they were like clearing out all the you know heretics or seers or whatever, there may have actually been some truth in that, that they lessened that pool of people. But what I'm getting at is that in ancient Egypt, you could have had a much more higher rate of supposed psychics that could have potentially seen the future.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, we did just discuss a psychic talking about the library under the Sphinx, and there is uh there is an open space down there, as we talked about with the with the uh radar x-ray technology. So interesting. Um do we believe in psychics? I gotta say yes. I gotta. I gotta say yes. I don't think it's like we see on TV, yeah. But you know, I I would I wouldn't be shocked.
SPEAKER_00Did uh okay, here's another show for you. You probably haven't seen this one, Portals to Hell. Have you seen that one? No, okay, so this was uh Jack Osborne, Ozzy's kid, and it was him and this girl, and they would go and do paranormal investigations of haunted locations, right? So kind of like another like ghost hunters type show. But on every episode, they would have a point where they would bring in a psychic and they would blindfold them, they wouldn't tell them anything about where they were or where they were going. And the psychics were like bloodhounds to like the weird places, and they would go like if it was like somebody was killed in this cell, they'd go right to that cell, and they'd be like, There's weird, weird vibes, and I'm feeling you know a lot of emotion and this thing and that thing, and trauma, and dah dah, dah. And they would they would like pick up on all of it, right? Now, equally, what was weird that I found this fascinating is that in some of the episodes when they were like outside, they would say they would say things like this they'd say, like, yeah, there's an elemental spirit here. Like, what the hell is that? What do you mean, an elemental spirit? And they're like, This thing was never human, and it's always been here.
SPEAKER_01Huh. Yeah, interesting. Well, I I would say, like I said, I do believe in that because just for example, we as humans have certain I we'll call them instincts, right? So, for example, I and I think about this every day, every day at the gym, because as I as I'm walking towards the men's locker room, I'm always coming from uh if you're facing the entrance to the locker room, I'm always coming from the left, right? So I'm come but I'm coming along the wall, so I have to take a sharp left and then another sharp left, so it's like a corner and then another corner to go into the men's locker room. Okay, every single time I start to take that first left, every time I can sense just for a split second, if somebody's walking, because there's only room, there's only so much room. I'm a big dude, right? There's only so you gotta kind of be aware someone else is coming, I'm gonna walk into them. You know that feeling. Do you have you ever had that? You're turning a corner, and before you see somebody coming, you can you can sense that somebody's there, and you're like, oh, and you kind of stop and you don't bump into them, then they your peripherals pick it up. It's a weird little thing. Uh I'm not saying that that's a psychic ability, I'm just saying if we have that that kind of a sense in the average person, why couldn't there be more that couldn't be more expanded on when it comes to other people?
SPEAKER_00You know what's a really weird thought around that is that's the idea of the future impacts the past. Like, think about that. That's almost kind of in reverse, right? So a future event is impacting you right now. That's weird. That's really weird. That'll make your head blow up.
SPEAKER_01Excuse me. So for me, uh, I think I land on. I don't know. What what do you think? Where do you where do you land?
SPEAKER_00I don't think there were helicopters or planes or submarines or anything in ancient Egypt. I do think somebody in ancient Egypt saw that.
SPEAKER_01There you go. I think they were more prevalent, not not necessarily submarines and like all terrain vehicles, but spaceships, alien ships. Again, they had to build those pyramids somehow.
SPEAKER_00Right. Do you ever see the movie uh Stargate?
SPEAKER_01I watched, I was a big fan of both renditions of the show.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I can't remember much about Kurt Russell. I know Kurt Russell was in it.
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SPEAKER_00Yeah, they went through the Stargate and they went back into ancient Egypt, and there was like a gate, right? Who's to say that they didn't have a gate that somebody went through to the future, saw that stuff, and then came back.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, maybe the show's based on yeah, I mean, theoretically, right? I was a big fan of the show, so I, you know, I know all about it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna blow your mind one more time. So we think of time moving in a straight line, right? Yesterday, today, tomorrow. But that's not really how it moves. It's like a fabric, they say, right? Like this is kind of like the Einstein type stuff. So when you get into theories of the uh like the multiple universe, right? Like Marvel, um the dimensional theory, what that means is that all things are happening at once at all times in the same place. And so, who's to say that back then there was not a gate somewhere and it went through to the future? Or even if it didn't go through, what if it was just there and they looked through it and saw the future?
SPEAKER_01Another fascinating thought. Absolutely possible. See, I'm open to this kind of stuff, right? I think there's so much more to our surroundings in terms of the universe than than we really come. I mean just think about the spectrum of light. How much how many how many different spectrums of light exist that we have no idea are all around us right now, right? Yeah, we're completely oblivious to it.
SPEAKER_00There's plenty of examples. Radio signals, think of Wi-Fi. Can you see it? No, does it exist? Yes, yeah, you know exactly.
SPEAKER_01So it's it's kind of ignorant to think that something else, you know, many things that we can't sense with any of our senses exists as well, or that we just plain and simply put haven't seen yet, haven't witnessed yet, but doesn't mean it doesn't exist, right?
SPEAKER_00Right. So so again, think of the brain as a receiver, a radio receiver. You're not dialed in to listen to all stations at once, you're only listening to one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and and think about it this way as well. If you could go back to ancient Egypt, for example, or even just 200 years ago, and tell them about smartphones and airplanes, and you know, the the way cars are today, like the way automobiles are today, um, you know, how how fast we try everything. If you were to tell them everything, the internet, right? What do you think they would say to you? The same thing some person, some cynical person out there listening right now is saying, Oh, that technology can't exist, or you know, whatever. No, yeah, really, yeah, think it through, right?
SPEAKER_00I agree. Okay, all right, is that one settled?
SPEAKER_01That is settled. Uh, let's move on to number five. The pyramids were ancient power plants or energy devices. I know you like this one. The pyramids, especially the great pyramids, uh weren't tombs, but giant machines or batteries. Claims include quartz and granite properties generating uh energy. Uh Piso electric energy? Am I saying that right?
SPEAKER_00Maybe, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Uh the gold capstone acting as a conductor, or the structure harnessing Earth's energy or cosmic forces, some say entering them can even charge phones.
SPEAKER_00That's fascinating. So, okay, so we got to provide a little more context here. That the pyramids as you see them today are not what they looked like when they were finished. They were smooth, they were flat, and they had a gold capstone on it, right? And you know, I think today modern art archaeology sort of wants to lean towards them being some sort of a tomb or you know, honorary uh monument to a king or something like that, right? But I don't think so. I it Just it doesn't add up to me that that would be a tomb, and why make it like that? It just it none of it really adds up, right? Now that said, this kind of parlays into uh the recent ground penetrating radar scans that they did under the Great Pyramid that did find, quote, structures under the pyramid, right? And what was fascinating about this, again, talking about building construction and foundations. So again, think of how much weight is in the Great Pyramid. Think of how many tons of weight are sitting there, right? Now, for that to not just crumple, especially under something like an earthquake, where it would just sort of disintegrate and you know crumble down, just like uh rocks coming down a mountain, you know, like a landslide, right? For for it not to do that, it has to be on a solid foundation, okay? And in those GPR uh scans that they did, to me, it looks like caissons going into the bedrock. Now, what's insane about it is that that foundation is something like a mile or two deep. Again, this is another one of these ancient Egypt things that just blows our concept of everything. Because, first of all, have you ever tried to dig a hole at the beach? You know how hard this is.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00I mean, this is so hard, like and they're just digging straight down for two miles to hit bedrock, and then there's some how are they building it up from there? How are they getting the material down the hole to the bottom to stack it up to then put the pyramid on it? It doesn't it, I don't know how you do that. It doesn't make physical sense. Like again, you know, in in uh modern uh like high-rise, super tall high-rise construction, they will like pile drive caissons that are 40 feet, 60 feet, 100 feet straight down into the bedrock, and that's what they build the high-rise onto. And it looks like, by all accounts, that that's exactly what they did with the Great Pyramid. And again, if this thing was not on a solid foundation, it would have crumbled a long time ago, and it has not, right?
SPEAKER_01Mind-boggling.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01So again, they say I don't think they could recreate today with today's technology. I think it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I mean if if you were doing this in today's technology, think about this. Like, like they do uh core drilling, and usually the the widest they'll go is like an eight-foot case on. Like they do this stuff on Oak Island, right? Also on the History Channel. Plug for Oak Island. Um, anyway, so so the way that it works, right, with these massive cissons that are eight feet uh thick is that they have a machine called an oscillator that sits around them that's kind of like a horseshoe, and it rubs back and forth. And what that does is it slowly drives this thing into the ground and they drive it as far as they can all the way down to bedrock, right? Now, the ancient Egyptians did not have an oscillator, they did not have caissons, they supposedly they didn't have any power, right? Um, and and they would it would be physically impossible for them to do this. Now, in modern day construction, you can do it, but then you also have to clear out what's in the middle of the caseon, right? Like, so they would have like the crane going down the middle, scooping out loads, whatever. Well, we don't have a crane that's going to scoop out loads two miles down into the bedrock. So just fundamentally, how do you how do you even go about doing this? I have no idea. How do you get the material into the hole to then build it up two miles?
SPEAKER_01Well, apparently they figured it out just by eyeballing it with no technology, right?
SPEAKER_00They just eyeballed it.
SPEAKER_01Fix we we gotta figure it out, yeah. Call Joe the Joe the architect.
SPEAKER_00Have you ever seen uh the movie Total Recall with Arnold?
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so you know that on Mars they have the machine that no one knows how long it's been there and it was built by the aliens, right? I'm just saying. I'm not saying it was aliens, but nice well for me, in terms of them being I I gotta say no.
SPEAKER_01I gotta say no on that one. In terms of them power plants. Um, I mean I think that they could they could have been generating energy that they could use for sure, but I don't think that was the sole or primary purpose to the construction of them, though, is what I'm trying to get at.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01I think there's multiple, you know, multiple reasons why. Again, it kind of bleeds back into the almost the same argument that you made about it being simply a tomb. It's kind of a simplistic reason to build something so complex. Yeah, not that not that energy back then would be simplistic in any way, shape, or form, but it just seems like there would be more to it than that. And how would they even know that building this would bring them energy? Unless aliens told them. You know, like where they just you know, if we if we construct this and we put gold on top as a as a as a grounder, uh I don't know, I just don't see that conversation happening all that all those years ago. Like, you know, we could generate energy. How do they even know what energy was?
SPEAKER_00Well, think about the way like a battery works too, with like a positive and negative. There's usually a ground, there has to be a ground wire, right? How do you have a ground wire in sand? Like what? Yeah, you know, again, it it needs to go down to the bedrock, right? Um, I gotta say that I think I don't know if it's a power plant in this in the way that we think about a power plant creating energy, energy and then powering homes. I don't think it's like that. Uh I think it's like a power plant in the sense that like have you have you ever been to like a spa and like gotten a massage and they have like spa music and it's just sort of like you know, weird kind of like resonance type type of like Buddhist type stuff, you know? Yep. I I kind of think it's sort of like that. Like maybe it's like a like an enlightenment state that yes, the geometry does somehow focus that enlightenment somehow with this structure. That's what I think.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you could be I could see that. I could see that. So you land on yes for power plant energy devices?
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna say yes, but not in the traditional sense of a power plant. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Now this is one that doesn't really resonate with me, pun intended. Sound waves or acoustic levitation moved the massive stones. Ancient Egyptians supposedly used sonic technology, resonance, or sound levitation, vibrating stones at a specific frequency to nullify gravity, to lift and position multi-ton blocks with ease. Some references uh Tibetan monks, demonstrations, or lost vibrational knowledge.
SPEAKER_00You know, they got a term for this, it's uh the force. They use the force. I mean, you know, if baby Yoda can do it, just saying there might have been somebody back then that could do it.
SPEAKER_01Yes. So what do you think about it?
SPEAKER_00Well, I don't know. Have you ever heard of the uh I think they call it the Coral Castle? Have you ever heard of this one?
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_00So I think it's in South Florida in the U.S. And it is a coral megalithic structure, right? And it supposedly was built by one guy all by himself, heavy tons of this and that and whatever, that supposedly he did all by himself and supposedly did it at night, and no one knows how he did it, and he didn't use modern machinery or anything, and he built the whole thing himself. So, yeah, it's weird, right? It's weird. And and in that theory of the the sonic sort of resonance is this idea of ley lines. Have you ever heard of ley lines?
SPEAKER_02No, okay.
SPEAKER_00So the idea of ley lines is that there's these basically magnetic highways across the planet, and that if you were in certain places where those lines intersect, um, then theoretically there's a significant amount of like a magnetic resonance that if you were able to tap into that, then maybe you could do this, right? And if you think about it, like we're gonna go down the alien rabbit hole a second. So one of the things that Bob Lazar has said with captured alien spacecraft is that they have anti-gravity emitters that can bend gravity. So the point is that when you see a UFO flying, it's not going through the wind or against the wind, it's bending gravity and being pulled forward, right? So if you think about it back to ancient Egypt, could they theoretically have been bending gravity and pulling it forward? I don't know, maybe. I mean, I mean, you know, when we think about the first thing we talked about building the Great Pyramid and the weight of those blocks, and how the hell do you get it up 500 feet in the air without killing the person who's pushing and who's pulling? And there's how are they doing this, right?
SPEAKER_01A lot easier with no gravity to worry about.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. And again, you hit the nail on the head when you talked about slave labor. That slave labor, it's like the dudes hanging out outside Home Depot. You think they have the the uh the wherewithal to pull this off? No, but but could there be like you know, like the the wizard or the witch, or I don't know, somebody there that maybe has some like crazy abilities? I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I dig it. Uh I agree with your version of it for sure, uh, but it would require obviously alien technology for me to for me to buy in on it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Now, in the idea of like the Inquisition getting rid of the psychics, maybe there were more special people back then that could do something. I don't know. Um but maybe maybe if you think about alien technology, if they can levitate a cow, who's to say they couldn't levitate a block, right? Or if they can put a crop circle down in, you know, eight minutes uh that you know covers a hundred square yards, could they build a pyramid? Interesting.
SPEAKER_01I'm with it, man. I'm with it. Um you finished on that one? Yeah, I'm done with that one. Yeah, I didn't think that one was gonna last very long. Number seven, Orion correlation theory. So the pyramids mirror Orion's belt. Robert Bavall and Graham Hancock propose that the three main uh Geys of Giza pyramids were deliberately laid out to mirror the stars of Orion's belt with the Sphinx representing uh the constellation Leo, back to what you were talking about of being a lion. They argue this alignment points to a much older lost civilization around 10,500 BCE, uh, or sorry, Zeptepi, or first time. What do you think?
SPEAKER_00I gotta lean towards true. I I think this is true. Um in ancient in the ancient world, uh a lot of things were aligned to the stars, and you see it all across the planet in different cultures that they aligned to the stars, whether it was the Templars, uh the Vikings, uh, the Stonehenge, right? Like everything, you know, uh South America, there's there's multiple different monuments that tie into star and star constellations. So were was that area exactly tied into it? I would have to say yes. I think so.
SPEAKER_01I gotta agree with you. I have to agree with you on that. Again, I don't believe in coincidences.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I agree. What are the what I mean, what are the odds that it would be laid out like that?
SPEAKER_01Come on, you know, exactly, exactly, and we see even like even in their uh glyphs and stuff like that, they do often refer to the stars and stuff like that, space, right? Up above.
SPEAKER_00So well, and think about this. All pyramids are not created equal, so it's just those three are in this constellation, you know, format, how they're set up. But I don't know if you knew this. Um, there's actually a ton of pyramids in Sudan. Did you know that?
SPEAKER_01Uh, I thought I think I heard that, yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I know I brought up Josh Gates before, but he went to Sudan where they were excavating at one of these pyramids. And it I let me just say this. This was like one of the craziest things I've ever seen him do. Pure insanity. So these pyramids in Sudan, there's like 10 of them in a row, and they're all supposed to be of different kings, right? And the king is buried in each one, and these are nowhere near the size of like the Great Pyramid, they're way smaller, right? But there's all these pyramids in a row, and so this particular pyramid that they're working on is flooded, okay? So the only way to get into this thing is to put on diving gear. You're in the middle of the desert, you're going down into the pyramid. There is zero visibility, there is multiple chambers, you have no idea which ceilings have collapsed, you're just feeling completely blind in the dark. And somewhere in the middle, there was like an air pocket where you know you can kind of get your head like partially up to you know get get some actual you know air or whatever. And then stale air, yes. I mean, you talk about stale air, my god, that's stale air. Um, and then you know, basically, uh the the main uh archaeologist, he had had his divers kind of through the time he'd been there, mark it with a rope. So in the water, in the dark, you're trying to feel for this rope to get to the back room, to then sift around with your hands to see if you can feel anything on the ground, but you can see nothing. Like it is basically like pure death is this thing. Like, if any little thing went wrong, you would drown and die. Um, so so he was there. So, anyway, sidebar. I know. Amazing episode. Check that one out if you haven't seen it. But the point is that not all pyramids are equal. So those those pyramids in Sudan are all fairly small, but they are dedicated to kings, they are burial chambers.
SPEAKER_01Well, that bleeds into something else that is a later topic that we will be talking about is pyramids and other places built the same, maybe not at the same scale, but what are the chances of that? That we're gonna talk about later as well.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, so ultimately, I I guess what I'm getting to here is do they match Orion's belt? I think so. Was that the point? I think so. Were they burial pyramids? No, I don't think they were.
SPEAKER_01I'm 100% on on I'm on the same page, brother. Okay, settled. All right, guys. Well, listen, we have a ton more to get into, tons more, so much so that we're actually going to do a bonus part two episode to this one coming out this weekend. So stay tuned for that. It will come out on Sunday. Um, just because this one's already over an hour long, and you know it's hard to sit for any longer than that. So keep an eye out for part two of this, guys. There is so much more we're getting into. We haven't even gotten into the most of the juicy stuff yet. It's gonna blow your mind. So for now, for me, we'll see you guys on Sunday.
SPEAKER_00Till next time. Walk like an Egyptian.
SPEAKER_01I'm not saying it's aliens.
SPEAKER_00But it's aliens, it's definitely aliens.
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