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Summertime Home Maintenance: What Every Homeowner Should Know
Ever see those social media ads promising miracle solutions for your home? In this eye-opening episode, contractor Donnie Blanchard takes on misleading claims about attic fans that promise to dramatically lower temperatures by 25-30 degrees. Drawing from professional experience, Donnie explains why these mechanical ventilation systems often fail to deliver and can actually disrupt your roof's natural airflow when improperly installed. The conversation highlights how even AI systems perpetuate these myths, emphasizing the value of expert knowledge over algorithm-generated advice.
As summer heats up, the discussion shifts to everyone's favorite warm-weather activity: grilling. Donnie shares professional-grade hacks that will transform your outdoor cooking game, from using a battery-powered blower to quickly heat charcoal to his multi-layered glove technique for handling messy prep work. You'll learn why investing in proper lighting and quality meat thermometers makes all the difference when cooking after dark, and how simple tools like wooden skewers can revolutionize hot dog flipping.
The hosts also walk through essential summer maintenance checks every homeowner should perform. From setting ceiling fans to rotate counterclockwise for optimal cooling to inspecting often-overlooked hoses in appliances that could cause costly water damage, these practical tips help protect your biggest investment. The episode offers smart solutions for cleaning dishwashers with vinegar, using sink plungers effectively, and preventing mosquito breeding grounds around your property.
Whether you're looking to debunk home improvement myths, up your grilling game, or create a simple summer maintenance checklist, this episode delivers practical advice from seasoned professionals who understand what actually works. Join us next week when we dive deeper into HVAC maintenance and additional warm-weather home care strategies.
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Welcome to the Carolina Contractor Show with your host, general Contractor Donnie Blanchard. Donnie, do you have a smartphone? I do yes, sir, and you have social media and so you see the ads that pop up on, like Facebook and IG and stuff. Absolutely All right. I got a question for you that's right in your wheelhouse. I saw an ad today on Instagram and it was for a wired attic fan and it said it will lower the inside temperature of your attic 25 to 30 degrees. Is that a work? Your laugh gives it away. Is that a worthwhile investment? Is it true?
Speaker 2:No, I'd be interested to see the the advertisement, because that's that's false all the way around. Maybe they lower the attic temperature five to 10 degrees and but but yes, there's only a specific scenario where an attic fans warranted. If you have ridge vent, then you're not supposed to have a power attic fan because it'll actually pull air in through the ridge vent and it causes the passive ventilation concept to pretty much go away because the attic's not breathing like it should. If you have a hip roof and you only have about a hip roof is more like a pyramid shape where you only have six to eight feet of ridge vent across the top. That's not enough for the passive ventilation to work. So in that scenario you can warn a power addict fan, but most of the time they don't do what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2:From a roofing standpoint I'd say 80 plus percent of the time they don't work when we get there. So the hardwired versions aren't made to last and it's what we put on these days. A 50 yearyear shingle, I wouldn't give that power attic fan a 15 year lifespan. I'd say power attic fans and pipe boots probably last about the same amount of time. So I'm not a fan ah, nice play on words.
Speaker 1:Not a fan of the fan. Ah, we talked about in the past, though like things like tech shield will do more to uh, regulate the heat in your attic than some scheme like a fan absolutely uh tech, shield the radiant.
Speaker 2:We talked about that what two, three weeks ago? And it basically keeps the heat penetration from the shingles to the plywood from getting into the attic and heating the attic up aggressively. And the retrofit version of the Radiant Barrier goes on the bottom side of the rafters and it works better in my opinion, because it causes the heat that does get through to be sandwiched in between those rafter cavities. So basically, with the passive ventilation concept, the stack effect heat rises, the air comes in through the soffit vents, makes its way on the backside of that roof plywood and it forces all that heat out of the ridge vent. So I think that the radiant barrier makes that ridge vent work even better and I want people to understand.
Speaker 1:we are new to AI, not me and Donnie. We've been on the AI train for a couple of decades now, I think. But I went on and asked one of the AI services while you were chatting there do attic fans work effectively? And it's like yes, here's why it removes hot, humid air, all this stuff. And I'm like that's completely false. And I think we've become reliant, or more reliant, on AI to give us answers, as though they're unbiased and correct, like there's some godlike answer. And right there AI is saying oh, attic fans definitely can work and cool your house down in the teens to 20 degrees at a time.
Speaker 2:So what the AI did is it pulled from 10, 15 websites Instead of going to the handy dandy GAF installation manual that tells the yays and nays of the roof installation requirements, that get you an actual 50 year warranty and you can have ridge vent, but not a power addict fan. It can't be both, and because that power addict fan just screws up the whole passive ventilation concept.
Speaker 1:The technical term for the power addict fan is mechanical ventilation, so it's got to be either or not both, and so if you're new to the show and you're going, who's this guy talking about addicts and shingles and fans and how they work and which is better? Well, that's Donnie Blanchard. He's general contractor, also owner of Sure Top Roofing, also owner of Blanchard Building Company. So he's done a couple of roofs and he knows a couple of things about them. My name's Eric Smith.
Speaker 1:I do inside sales for Home Builder Supply in Wilson, greenville. I just sell stuff to people. Donnie actually puts them more to practical use. I just sell stuff to people. Donnie actually puts them more to practical use. But this all combines to become the Carolina Contractor Show and we do this every week and we've got just years of material Material yeah, because I'm funny, we'll call it material Years of shows all locked into the website at thecarolinacontractorcom. We're also up on YouTube. You can visit those sites and listen to past shows. You'll be able to, of course, contact us through social media.
Speaker 1:You also have a question about your house. Maybe you had a question like does this attic fan work? So you ask Donnie and you click on the ask the contractor button and then you can submit your question and we'll answer those on shows. As a matter of fact, we got some multiple questions on today's show from people that had piped in and all sorts of stuff that we just like. We'd like to talk about your house, let's get to the point. We like to talk about DIY projects and hacks and ideas that are good and some things that are bad, and now that we're entering this nice warm weather as we hit the June God, we're at the halfway mark of the year. This is nuts Donnie Summer. Everybody wants to be outside, but there's a lot of stuff you can do inside, but what's your main thing that you like to do in summer?
Speaker 2:It doesn't really have anything to do with the house. I work all day. So when I come home I like to hit the grill man, there's something about it and I put together an awesome porch outside. So I grill and I don't really come back inside for very much and I like to sit out there, smell the grill, kick the TV on on the porch and just kind of edge out for a minute after a long day.
Speaker 1:Since I'm not a grill meister and I'm not saying that you proclaim to be some savant with charcoal and gas, but you've got to have some grill hacks that you can offer people as we get into that time of year of being outside and cooking food over an open flame. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, let me think. Um, kind of depends on what I'm doing. So, uh, long longer cook. We're doing ribs or Boston but or chicken wings. You know, all those things take a long time.
Speaker 2:If I'm doing burgers, I don't really do anything special. I think burgers just warrant the gas grill because it's easy to start up. You know, quick, clean, drop the burgers and everybody eats faster than normal. But when you get into the longer things, you know there's a few hacks that I use every single time. One thing that I keep a battery powered blower on my porch, which is super convenient for everything, especially gosh during pollen season. It saved me. But I have a green egg, and so a green egg is basically a charcoal, a lump charcoal style grill, and you have to light the charcoal. It's a much longer startup process and, and sometimes when you don't have the time or maybe you get started late, then you need to get the temperature of the grill to a certain point before you can even put the food on there. And so I take that battery-powered blower and it's a small one, but I take that and put it in the bottom vent of the grill and just introduce some airflow, and I also have a charcoal starter that puts out a little bit of air but not as much as the blower. But you can jump the temperature from 100 to 300 really quick with the blower. So that's one hack.
Speaker 2:My glove game is pretty strong. So I have to order these nitrile gloves on Amazon, by the case, and it's just exponentially cheaper than buying them in the grocery store. But when I'm prepping the food, sometimes I'll put on as many as two or three layers of gloves on each hand. So when you're in the messy stuff and all the raw meat you can just peel off that top layer of gloves and just keep rocking man. So it's a big time saver. And another thing is when you're pulling pork, if you cook a Boston butt, I have the brown cloth work gloves stashed away and they're thick cloth work gloves. I guess they're cotton, I don't know, but I put. I buy at least one or two packs of the extra large nitrile gloves and I put over those so you can. You can shred the meat with forks and do everything, but there's no substitute for your hand and doing individual pieces. But having a thick cotton glove under a nitrile keeps the heat off your hands.
Speaker 1:Dude, I got a question. Sometimes you start cooking later. It's hard to cook at night. Do you ever cook? You know, once you get that nine o'clock hour, how do you know what you're doing to be able to see how the cook's going?
Speaker 2:Oh, no doubt there's. Well, and that's a really important point, I have a couple of grill lights that I bought and they don't always work with every single grill. So when you open the grill up, you have a hard time pointing that light because it usually goes on the handle of the grill or something like that. So if the handle is not positioned correctly it doesn't go on the food. So I dork out all the way and I have a headlight and I'll just throw that baby on and I look like I'm going on a mining excursion.
Speaker 2:But you know, you can put the headlight lamp right on the meat because you know, uh, the eye test is a lot to do with it. I don't really use the thermometer as much as I should, but, um, you know, having direct light, I have an outdoor lamp and I have recessed cans, but of course in the summer you don't want to throw all those lights on because it just attracts bugs. And, um, I think a grill light that goes on the handle If it works for your grill, it's the best option there. A headlight second best, do you?
Speaker 1:are you experienced enough, donnie, of cooking? Do you need to use a clock or a set of timer knowing to flip stuff, or you just, you just know when it's done?
Speaker 2:It depends on the cut of meat and and you know there's certain things like investment. Another thing that's a must is a meat thermometer. You know I have this handy dandy meat thermometer that connects to my phone and it tells you the ideal temperature and all the things. But grills have hot spots and so if you have the grill full then there's a great chance that one side is going to cook a lot faster than the other. So having multiple thermometers is a really good investment to make sure everything goes okay, yeah, and I also want to stress with people grilling is not hard.
Speaker 1:Some people don't do it because they think it's difficult to do and get the chicken or the beef cooked not only how you like it, but make sure you've cooked it enough. But just take your time. Who was the guy? Roger Mooking, who was the big? Yeah, he was great because he said just go out and grill something, just try it. It's fun to do and I definitely agree with that. Do you have a grill caddy? My wife bought me one.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, grill caddy on Amazon is probably one of the best things I've ever gotten on Amazon. So, um, and back to Roger's point, my, my future son-in-law. He just bought a grill and he's getting into cooking and I don't know who's more excited about that, me or him, but but he's really. I mean just on an average gas grill. He's killing it and doing a great job, but he's realizing what our old guys are have known for so long that there's. There's just something about it, man. It's just something that feels good about feeding your family and doing a good job at it.
Speaker 1:It's really just about having fire to play with. Now I, when I would take my basic little charcoal grill, um, when I would cook hot dogs, I put those on the second level and I would just put individually where they would sit perfectly in line. And then I saw a thing where it said no, you take a pack of eight hot dogs and you put two wood skewers through them, horizontally or perpendicularly, anyway, she put it through, so they're all connected and all you have to do is grab the skewers to flip them over. And I was like, oh my God, I felt so stupid that that's the easiest way. No more tongs. No, we're trying to roll them, you just flip them. And there's nothing wrong with when you grill out. You should always throw on some hot dogs anyways, because they're the best things. When you reheat them later, they still taste like they came right off the grill.
Speaker 2:How'd you word that when you called me, you were so excited. You said um, I was today years old. Is that how you said today years?
Speaker 1:old, yeah, and I'm old, so it's really sad my grill game isn't quite as good. So, um, I can do, you know, steaks and burgers and chicken and stuff. Um, I haven't tried shrimp like on a skewer, not that it'd be tough. But do you, donnie, have a favorite single thing you like to grill or smoke?
Speaker 2:uh, on the grill, and I'm not just you know, I'm discounting everything, all the easy stuff. Burgers, uh, wings, arenings aren't too easy but they're not hard either. I'd say that a Boston butt. So for pulled pork I like that on the smoker and for the grill. There's just no substitute for the heat source when you cook ribs on the green egg. So that charcoal heat source it really does the trick and it caramelizes everything, puts the best crust skin flavor that you've ever had on the ribs if you do them the right way on the green egg.
Speaker 1:Man, I'm hungry. We're going to have to do a show outside at our respective grill sometime, just talking about whatever while we're flipping steaks and burgers. I'm down On today's show the Carolina Contractor. We're going to be talking about summer. Obviously, grilling out is one of the big things. We're going to hit a few things right off the bat of things that homeowners can do to prep for summer. The small ones. We going to ask you and see if you're prepped. It's summer. What direction should ceiling fans be rotating? Clockwise or counterclockwise?
Speaker 2:Counterclockwise all the way. So the counterclockwise will push the air down from the fan and that's what you want in the summer to generate a breeze. The opposite of that clockwise in the wintertime. It'll basically pull the warm air up and circulate it around the room. So counterclockwise in the summer, clockwise in the winter.
Speaker 1:All right, I bought last year an electric pressure washer. You inspired me to do this. I don't think we got the same thing. I regret waiting as long as I did to get one. You can do it in the spring, definitely wait till after pollen season, but a pressure washer is a great all-around tool to have during the summer. Um, mine is what I would say, um, one step above entry level, but it does the work for me. You have a pressure washer, I know right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and all my stuff is a steel. So the? Uh, not a steel S T A L, it's a what S T I H L. So my dad was a steel guy. You know everything from a blower to weed eater, uh, string trimmer as you say. But uh, the steel products just seem to last. I went through two electric pressure washers from big box store. I got the steel pressure washer. I use it, my son uses it and we're just. You know, we can't wear that thing out. It it's always worked great.
Speaker 1:It's a wonderful thing to have because you can, you know, do siding or pressure washer walkways, washer car, or you'll be amazed how many things you can do with a pressure washer. Yeah, here's another thing you can do for summer, especially beginning of it. Walk up to your wife and say, hon, do you want me to trim the bushes? And this is time to show some love to your landscaping. I did it two weeks ago. I had a guy come in and it makes you feel good about your, your yard. You get yard pride, I guess.
Speaker 2:Well, um, yeah, absolutely. It doesn't take a long time to do that and they make a battery powered head streamer now. So so the battery-powered hedge trimmer that I have, the battery's compatible across the board. So I think they've got that battery stuff figured out, where the battery on that one goes in the blower and it goes in the hedge trimmer and will also work in my little fancy electric lawnmower down at the coast. So it's a little heavy, but it works really well.
Speaker 1:We know you're a roof guy so this comes across as a bias question, but always this time of year take a look at your um gutters and, especially if you get some of those spring and summer rains coming in see if you've got the waterfall coming over the gutters. A good time to have some prep work done or maybe some repair work done.
Speaker 2:Yeah absolutely Um with the roof. You know you want to make sure the roof and the gutters are doing what they're supposed to do and of course, the roof is going to shed the water off, uh, and the gutters shed the water away from the house and you know, either one of those functioning improperly is going to be a really big deal going into summer. And you know, people often think that you only need to check your gutters after the leaves fall in the winter. But there's a lot of dang uh, what's the right word Dangler leaves and um, that uh, klingons, yeah, klingons, that don't uh, that don't let go in the fall. And you really need to check your your gutters, uh, in early summer, especially before all these summer storms that we get. So we're probably three or four weeks late on giving that advice, but, um, we had a lot of rain last week and I think that that's just a wise thing to do. Or call us.
Speaker 2:We do roof inspections for free, but roofs are maintenance. People think I've got a 30-year roof. I don't have to have it looked at for 30 years, but there are other components like the flashing and the pipe boots and things that go bad along the way. So very wise to get that checked out, because you could spend a lot of money on interior damages just from neglect. Yeah sure.
Speaker 1:Top top roofingcom. Uh, we were talking about decking uh recently and I have uh treated. You have uh composite decking. Um, we made clear treated deck. Treated wood requires some maintenance, so you're going to want to take that pressure washer. Maybe, if you haven't stained or sealed it in a while, you can do a step up higher and make sure you get rid of the old stain so it'll show up an even coat when you update it this spring. Always wait until after pollen season, which we're way past that, but I don't know why. I just like a real wood deck and I understand the functionality and the practicality of having something like Trex or another composite material and man the composite decks. When they're done right and they all have the nice square edge, they can look like a piece of artwork.
Speaker 2:Oh, for sure, and I like mine. But my deck is on the north side of my house, so saving grace there is that the sun is completely on the other side by the time it really gets to the heat of day, so it doesn't heat up like most Trex decks. And you know to your point I like a wood deck as well, and I think we talked about this on a show two or three weeks ago that you could get it away with two by six decking instead of using the five quarter deck boards. But if you do the two by six decking, it's just that much thicker and you always want to use the number one grade and that'll last probably just as long as a composite, as long as you maintain everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that goes tied. When we talked about using a five quarter, you're going to want to have a closer joist spacing. If you've got something like 24 inch joists, definitely go with a two by six because it won't cost you really a whole lot more and maybe pre-drill those two by sixes before you put a screw in those. But you're right, that wood will last a long time. Another thing about this time of year love is in the air and that's bugs and they're like doing it everywhere and multiplying. You've got to go around your yard and look for places that are going to be a bug breeding ground, obviously a bucket, or if you've got a trash can lid that's been sitting in the corner with water in it, you've got to go there and tip it over. And there are home treatments for mosquitoes. I've seen them online. You can call some of the commercial places to do spraying for mosquitoes. We've done it at the Smith household and have had anywhere from moderate to very good success with the commercial mosquito controls.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, I'm a fan of that, as well as the preventables. As far as having the standing water not accumulating anywhere around the house, I think the one place people need to be careful of is if you have an improperly pitched gutter, it's always going to have standing water in that, and so if you have a gutter that's uh, that's holding water on one side or the other, that's definitely something to address because you know they're they're going to get in there.
Speaker 1:It's like a high rise condo for mosquitoes. Um yeah, Another thing we want to talk about are your hose. Um, what do we need to know? What do we need to know about our hoes, Donnie?
Speaker 2:You worded that wrong. Hoses was, I think, the prompt, more than one hoe. Okay, and what we're talking about is not a lot of garden hoes outside, we're talking about hoses inside the house. And you know we put this list together. We didn't do this off of Google. This was something that's a much better piece of advice than anything you can find online, because we went personal and I went.
Speaker 2:You know this is a what, three or four year checklist that we put together and people don't give enough attention to the hoses in your house and there are about four main hoses, and I'll start with your washer. Of course, you got a hot and cold water hose going to your washer, and not just the hoses but the fittings on the hoses. Those are things that could give way to a leak and you wouldn't know it because it's behind your washer. But that's that's something to maintain, at least. What? Three to five years is a good way to look, because you're at the mercy of a washer and the uh acid washer, whitewashing machine. The washer in the fitting in the hose is what I meant to say, and you know it's got constant pressure on it, so it's constantly got hot and cold water on it and anything that has. That is something that needs to be looked at. I'll move into the kitchen and talk about the water line hose behind the refrigerator, kitchen hose, kitchen hose and the water line behind the refrigerator. That's something that you never see. So it's worth just pulling that fridge out. And, side note there, if you're going to pull it out, take a small vacuum to the back of it and vacuum the coils off. That will extend the life of your refrigerator. Just not good to have all the dust and debris back there around those.
Speaker 2:Going over to the dishwasher I was waiting for you to make another joke Dishwashing hoe. The dishwasher hose comes out from behind the dishwasher and it ties into the drain under your sink and so there's no dedicated line to drain the dishwasher. It piggybacks on the sink drain and of course there are two connections. You really can't get to the connection to the dishwasher very easy, but the one under the sink is something you can see pretty quick. You know it's not unlikely to see a drip under there and it's just kind of hidden because you don't look under your sink very often. But those are the main four and I will say, if you have a dehumidifier anywhere in the house. The dehumidifier drain is definitely a vulnerable point as well.
Speaker 1:So that's worth checking out. Another thing let's deviate from hose. Um, that's good to do this time of year, just any time of year, if there's something that causes you to remember to do it. But test your smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, get a combo machine. They're pretty cheap, no doubt, and uh, maybe just upgrade them, even if they seem to be working fine if they're a few five years old. Go ahead and buy a set and put them in the appropriate spots in your house so you can have those running, because we tend to, you know, smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors, become wallpaper on your wall, even if they're big, bright and white and have a blinking light. You don't think about them. So it's best not forget about those things. You mentioned dishwashers and checking out the hose and your dishwashing hose. What are some general cleaning tips you can do with a dishwasher? Or think, all that food that goes to the dishwasher gets ground, goes down the disposal, you can get some rank smells coming out of there?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, you know, we've been told by plumbers not to put boiling water down that because it's not good for the drain pipes. Um, if you get some nasty smells, I'd go with the hottest water you could get, maybe heat it up to, not to the point of boiling and gosh, because that will, that will, uh, help that pass through if there's anything hung up right there. So, hot water and dish detergent for the disposal. Uh, the hack that I've used on my dishwasher is, you know, I, I, you, I have an empty dishwasher and I just run a low speed cycle but I put two cups of vinegar in the bottom, and vinegar is, you know, god's gift to nature. So it's, um, it's a good thing to completely uh clean your, your dishwasher. And my dishwasher is kind of old, maybe 11 years old and, um, uh, I've had good results. It seems like it works better after I run the two cups of vinegar through, uh, each and every time, but I do that every couple of years and I've seen good results.
Speaker 1:Another thing you can do and you only think of doing this when you have a clog, but is to plunge your sink, because even if you pour stuff down the drain, especially when it hits the P trap, it won't necessarily get rid of the material that has built up on the bottom half of it. So you can clean it out and then say, well, why is it still smelling? And I've talked to you about this before. They have sink plungers that fit in a sink, that are small, so including a bathroom sink, and if you're using a bathroom sink or any basin that has the overflow holes in it, you got to plug those holes first. But go ahead and use a sink plunger and clean it out. That got to plug those holes first, but go ahead and you know, use a sink plunger and clean it out. That way to make sure you're pushing stuff through the pipe, because hot water and vinegar and stuff won't necessarily get all the stuff that's built up. But you can put a foam cleaner down there, give it a couple shots with a um, a sink plunger, and really get rid of any residual stuff. Now, if you really want to get rid of it and you're not worried about it, it's pretty easy to do take your P-trap off and clean that thing out. You might be stunned, especially if it's a bathroom sink. What makes it down to the P-trap and never makes it over that little hump to get out into the sewer system. It's easy to do do 10 minutes to clean a P-trap. So I would do that.
Speaker 1:Donnie, I just realized something. We've got a ton of stuff we want to talk about and we've almost burned up the show just given the basic tips of summer. So I want to ask you would it be cool if we come back next week and go into more depth subjects like HVAC units and things like that and what people can do to get prepped for summer and avoid some issues like I've run in with my HVAC unit that I can talk about next week?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I knew that was going to happen. But absolutely, man, it's a lot of content this time of year. You know the questions are rolling in, so we appreciate everybody's interaction because, like I always say, that drives the show and it just feels good. You know, we've got a heck of an audience now and new radio stations pick us up. It seems to be on the regular, and just glad that we can contribute to your house, your people, family, that kind of thing. All right.
Speaker 1:So that's what we're going to do. We're going to let you all know that next week we're going to kind of do a part two of this and we're going to go into in-depth about HVAC units and I'll tell my story and then we'll talk about that and then we'll get into some other stuff you can do for summer for all you homeowners, whether it's inside or outside. Donnie's got an interesting idea on insect control that I wasn't aware of. But go to the website, thecarolinacontractorcom. We'll have this stuff also on social media, up on the YouTube page, so you can watch it and we'll all learn some stuff together this summer while Donnie grills everything for us. And so if you hit a small varmint on the way over, put it on the grill. Donnie will have it on the green egg and we'll eat it later. But we'll put recipes up on the website too. But you can find it all at thecarolinacontractorcom and we will see you next week for part two.
Speaker 2:Right, donnie. Yes, sir, that all sounds great and, by the way, I don't have any recipes for possum, raccoon or turtle. And if you are curious about that, you just said roadkill on the grill. If you're curious about that, and you just said roadkill on the grill, if you're curious about that, I do have some guys that I work with who will eat all three, and so you know, maybe private message me through the website. And I never knew this, but the guys told me turtles have three kinds of meat, so there's a white meat, a dark meat and then a third kind of meat. That I'm curious, but I don't really want to know that bad. So, uh, supposedly raccoons are a little greasy but possums are wonderful. Uh, I've been told about all that.
Speaker 1:So I, uh, I hope I never get hungry enough to have to try that, but but maybe Well, we'll have to have them on for a special third episode of uh, grill what you kill with your car and we'll. We'll dedicate that to them. All right, We'll see you guys next week for part two of getting ready for summer on the Carolina contractor show. Have a great day everybody. Thanks for listening to the Carolina contractor show. Visit the Carolina contractorcom.