Business Broker King Podcast

Harry Singh from Bolla speaks with Michael Steinberg from HedgeStone at the Car Wash Expo

• Business Broker King • Season 1 • Episode 4

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Harry Singh is an Indian-American entrepreneur best known as the founder, chairman, president, and CEO of Bolla Oil Corporation, a major operator of gas stations and convenience stores primarily in New York and New Jersey that has grown into a billion-dollar enterprise.


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Michael Steinberg is an entrepreneur, dealmaker, and business acquisition strategist known as the “Business Broker King.” As the Founder and CEO of Hedgestone Business Advisors, he has built a national reputation for connecting buyers, sellers, investors, and operators through strategic business acquisitions and advisory services.

Michael Steinberg specializes in helping entrepreneurs scale, exit, and acquire businesses across multiple industries, with a focus on deal structure, valuation strategy, and long-term wealth creation. Through his media presence, live events, mentorship programs, and podcast platforms, he has become a recognized voice in the growing conversation around the largest generational wealth transfer in history.

Hedgestone Business Advisors is a business brokerage and advisory firm focused on mergers, acquisitions, business sales, growth strategy, and investor relations. The company works with business owners, buyers, and private investors to facilitate transactions ranging from small business acquisitions to larger strategic exits, while also developing educational platforms, investor networks, and high-level entrepreneurial events.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, there he is. Hi, how are you? Mike Steinberg, how are you?

SPEAKER_01

Nice to meet you. What are your cars here? Yeah, that's all that J my son's car. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. Be here for a couple of days. And just one day today. Same, same yeah. Yeah, we have about a dozen of cars lawashi building. Uh huh. Oh, you're building? Uh yeah, we are we have about 60 properties and applications right now. Oh, without gas station, right? Yeah. Tough soft, right? Yes. You don't buy just a car wash. No, we don't buy standalone. It could be down the line. I think we are able to build a franchise one day.

SPEAKER_00

We have about 50 locations for sale.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Standalone car washes.

SPEAKER_01

I think uh especially if you have something closer to our sites, then it could because one of the things we are doing is we are associating our customers with the washes. If you are Bola customers on gas in Bola market, look at some discounts. We have millions of followers. We have millions of customers that follow below. Right, sure. If that's the case, all you do is you send them a discount.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Everyone wants discount.

SPEAKER_01

Every time you spend, you get your two dollars, three dollars off building. Like we have car wash in uh and we are putting there a thousand cars that visit.

SPEAKER_00

That's a great location.

SPEAKER_01

It's a big location. And we will continue to look at we are like over the future of a bola, it's not small sites anyway.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So one of the reasons that we here we have stations which are uh too close to each other.

SPEAKER_00

One gas.

SPEAKER_01

And the one would be next. So they will store each other.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

If you come to car wash, you can get a discount on gas. If you come to gas, you can get a discount on car wash. So when when? So we own 300 some properties plus. So we have at least 25 to 30 properties. We could look at putting an offer that gives you enough number of sites that people can recognize the price.

SPEAKER_00

Are you guys ex acquiring right now a lot? Yeah, we are still because we have a lot coming. Sure. Yeah, we're number we're number one. We have more businesses than anyone.

SPEAKER_01

So we can come by one day, but why don't you bring it there back?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You have my number, call me and let's sit down.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, sit down. I'd love to show you the sites. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We'll bring their topics. You know, once I know the sites, just give me. I'll have the guy map. Yeah, the guy come and know everything. Then I will say, look, what's good, what's bad. Yeah. A lot of property. We have about 90 plus projects and accrual application. Nice. Very nice. So, you know, we have a lot of building, but running 25 sites a year. How about Florida? But I've never tried state? You know, we are independently owned. We're not a publicly trading company where we're doing things.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So more I can feel and touch, more I can run better than that.

SPEAKER_00

Of course.

SPEAKER_01

We make more just having less site.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

People have doing five times more than what I have. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And they make small margin.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. No, you killed the kid. So you know what? They can't touch books. And we don't want to lose that, you know, vision that we can read in Ignati.

SPEAKER_00

You got great stores. No, we do have great free stores. When you walk in, you can tell. Every time clean. That's the plus point. That's what I tell everybody.

SPEAKER_01

Last year we put over a hundred million dollars just in restructuring on that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. We have a mutual client. I bought Joe location. I own that. And you bought it. So do you do that's uh are you alone or what? Uh so I own Hedge Stone. We're the brokerage, but I also buy businesses too. Oh, that's good, good. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He was dying to sell me that side. I got we got it, yeah. And we went demons aren't ready to do standalone. Otherwise, I would give him up. I only want to wash it that can I can tie to my side.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's why. Are you paid a lot of money for that? And he could be, he's a he's a almost gun artist. Yeah. This guy. Listen, right? He doesn't have to talk. He loves you. Yeah, but oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We got we we got the better deal. We got the better deal.

SPEAKER_01

You did good. Yeah, good. Yeah. How we own the property here. Yeah, that he won all the properties. That one we couldn't buy because it's a big shopping center. And we put in over a million dollar plus. So it's not.

SPEAKER_00

It's a beautiful year.

SPEAKER_01

Mobile gas station. We killed it. We're making a million and a half out a year on this. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I sold a standalone car wash for 15.

SPEAKER_01

You paid off the car ship.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. That's good. That's next to the hospital, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's it's beautiful. That's a good site. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It works. No, definitely. So beyond very like glassy assets. Yeah, no, no. You're not looking at it. Especially the gas season, even the location that you have. Yeah. Beautiful store. It's gorgeous. You guys know this. You know what I'm gonna tell you this? If you're not an operator, car wash and not doing a store.

SPEAKER_00

No. You gotta focus on what you're good at.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we get we're, you know, building some. I got 134 acres that I'm building like uh a resort. They're gonna be a destination resort. And wineries and horse horses, uh concerts and lodging out in the South Old. Nice. So, you know, we got a lot of the different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you do everything? No problem. You're gonna do that. I appreciate it. Thank you all for that.

SPEAKER_00

Nice meeting you. Nice meeting you. Follow up with you. Thank you so much.