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Powerful men hurt or humiliate women, and somehow there’s always another tour, another contract, another “cheeky larrikin” rebrand waiting for them. This week on Rage on the Rocks, Sarah and Lauren run a second‑chance audit on the Boys’ club loyalty program – who gets the comebacks, who pays the price, and who keeps renewing their membership.
We start with Jimmy Fallon’s cosy Tonight Show interview with Conor McGregor, recorded after an Irish civil jury found McGregor liable for sexually assaulting Nikita Hand and ordered him to pay damages – a verdict later upheld. Fallon’s laughs‑and‑family chat never mentions Nikita or the case, and that’s our entry point into a much bigger pattern: politicians whose abuse is treated as “colour”, shock jocks rewarded for vulgar misogyny, presidents and power brokers whose sexual misconduct and friendships with men like Jeffrey Epstein don’t stop the comeback train.
If this episode brings things up for you, you don’t have to sit with it alone. In Australia you can call 1800RESPECT (1800 737 732), the national 24/7 counselling service for anyone impacted by sexual assault, domestic or family violence, or supporting someone who is. You can also call 1800 FULL STOP (1800 3 85 578), run by Full Stop Australia, for free, confidential trauma counselling nationwide. If you’re in immediate danger, call 000.
Notes
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-23/conor-mcgregor-sexual-assault-2018-dublin-hotel/104638650
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd6n04xjj1qo
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-56560666
https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/impeachment/clinton-impeachment-and-its-fallout
Welcome to Rage on the Rocks, the show where we give society one more chance to disappoint us and then happily rage about it over a drink. This week will we examine why our culture hands powerful men more comebacks than a boy band reunion tour, and why the women on the receiving end rarely get the same grace. This all started for us with one very cozy late-night interview, a grinning host, a fighter with a well-publicised history with women, and not a single mention of the woman who took him to court. So it kind of got us thinking, how many times do we watch this same movie? Different man, different scandal, same happy ending for him. So tonight we're not doing a true crime deep dive. We're doing a second chance audit. We are lining up a few of our favorite comeback kings and asking who granted them those chances? What did it cost the women involved? And why does the boys club keep renewing their membership? Hey, Lauren. Hello. It's a big one.
SPEAKER_02It is a big one. It is a big one. We are uh drinking some cranberry and soda on the rocks because it's school holidays. And you know, we have had we've had a week's break um because of school holidays, and we've come back with just a tiny topic.
SPEAKER_00We sure have a tiny topic. And in true honour of the working women out there, we are here on a Friday afternoon and we've got our children in the other room currently playing happily together.
SPEAKER_02Sarah's gonna have to pick up a thousand loom bands.
SPEAKER_00At least a thousand. Exactly, but it'll be totally worth it because boy do we have some conversations. We do today.
SPEAKER_02We do, and it is not really child appropriate, so it's good then, you know.
SPEAKER_00That's right. We may have to divert to a more, you know, appropriate topic at any point if someone walks through the door. But look, I want to start with the king of soft lighting and fake giggles tonight. This is Jimmy Fallon. We may have heard the story in the last week or so about Jimmy interviewing UFC star Conor McGregor. He was found liable in 2024 in an Irish civil court proceeding for sexually assaulting a woman called Nikita Hand in a Dublin hotel. He was ordered to pay around £250,000 in damages. He appealed. He lost. The ruling stands. So we're fast forwarding now to June 2026. And Jimmy, whose whole brand seems to be, oh, sharks. I just kind of love everybody, has had him on his show, The Tonight Show. And they talk bar fights, family, the big UFC comeback, they do the whole, oh, you're just a cheeky lad kind of deal. He's such a Larrican, isn't he? And somehow in all of that cozy banter, Nikita Hand, the woman who took him to court and won. And by the way, there were some horrendous things that were reported. One of the reports that came out was that she needed to have a tampon surgically removed after that encounter. So anyway, she didn't even get a look in in the conversation. There was no mention of that whatsoever. So he wasn't out there screaming at women. He was doing something far worse. He was smoothing the edges off a man found liable for sexual assault. He was kind of handing him this get out of jail free card, really, and pretending that the violence never happens. So it's not neutrality, it's really just a concierge service for the boys' club. What do you think?
SPEAKER_02It's pretty shocking. I mean, I haven't really heard details quite as appalling as in the case that you're referring to when we will put some support lines in the show notes because you know a lot of women have dealt with vile men and awful incidents. And yeah, I mean, I'm shocked and not shocked at the same time, and more shocked, I guess, by the silence afterwards. He's been roundly called out, as he should be, for platforming a vile human being. And it's has just been silent since just waiting for it to blow over. Because it will. It'll blow over. It'll be no big deal. Connor McGregor's on, you know, various other podcasts and things saying he forgives himself for things that he's done. So crack on because he's a decent fighter, and we can forgive the sins of those who are good athletes and you know, famous and entertain us.
SPEAKER_00Are you not entertained? Ah, I'm very entertained. In in a raging kind of way, as always. It's pretty gross. So, this particular story, and we were talking about this before the show as well, really brings us to this idea, or what comes to mind for me is this concentric circle piece. So in the center is this perpetrator who has been found liable for doing this horrible act. The next circle out is the Jimmy Fallons of the world that provide a platform for this person's comeback. Quite happily. Quite happily. And then, as we will explore a little bit later in this show, there's this next layer of concentric circle that then provide a layer of poor dittims for those that provide that platform for the comeback as well. And it's just this whole kind of concentric circle land of white men with privilege, power, and usually wealth that want to provide a soft landing and preserve their little space in the world where they get to be big, strong men.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. And you're quite right, more often than not, there's very little cultural diversity between the people we're talking about. Uh, there's very little gender diversity in this, and on top of that, there is absolutely wealth. Uh stacks and stacks of money usually is very helpful. And powerful mates.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's always very helpful, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02It can help you paint the uh the more sympathetic narrative. It's like crisis comms and positive PR on call.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Whang, whah, wh, look at us. Everyone's against us. So, what I thought we would do today if it's okay with you, yes, is I have done a little bit of research because we need a bit of Poor You. I know, for me. I know. I look, I did it full of rage, so you know it was only a good thing, really. A little bit of research to find some of our more local examples of this because we do love a bit of an Australian touch.
SPEAKER_02We do.
SPEAKER_00The uh cheeky Larrikan story. And I've got some bad behaviour bios that I'd like to share with you, and of course, would love your feedback on this. Now, here's where we're going to start, because we do love a bit of politics. Australian politics. So, first up, Troy Buzzwell, for all of you people who are familiar with Western Australian politics, former WA treasurer, and well, really what I would probably consider a bit of a walking HR complaint. So this is the man whose greatest hits include, apparently, bra snapping, so bra snapping colleagues, strip club nights, and his most famous event, chair sniffing a female colleague's seat after she got up. Later on, his ex-wife told a court that he physically abused her and pressured her into degrading sexual acts. So, look, any of these, I think, probably should have earned him a lifetime ban from the grown-ups table, but is that what happened with Troy? No. He got to be party leader and treasurer, and really he's still remembered as this colourful character from a decade of WA political scandals. Tell me your take on Troy. What should have happened to this man?
SPEAKER_02Well, he should have been stood down, shouldn't he? I mean, the bra snapping and the chair sniffing alone. I mean, it's just super fucking creepy for one. Incredibly awful experience for his colleagues who are in their workplace having to deal with that kind of shit. From a guy who doesn't seem to have grown up beyond the age of six. It's absolutely wild to me that nothing further happened there. You know, you've got Barnaby, and in Malcolm Turnbull's defence, you had the bonk ban, which we've talked about before, and some attempt federally to kind of try and put some boundaries around professional behaviour. But more broadly, I think it speaks to that kind of workplace as well. And we've seen quite a lot, again, federally spoken about the culture of Parliament House, and um, it's not just limited to our Australian Parliament. I think that's very clear here. We will get to that. Yes, it is very clear here, and I think that yeah, it it is seen as a very different line of work. It's seen as a very different high-pressure workplace, and therefore behaviours have been allowed to fester, and it's been male dominated for such a long time, and I guess they've never been held accountable for this kind of behaviour.
SPEAKER_00Well, I've got another great political example for you. If you do, yes. Because we needed another one. There's more, there's more than two. There's more than two. That's right. These ones just really stood out. And to be fair, I was in Western Australia at the time of the Troy Buswell piece, and so for me it was front and centre. So the second one I have is Christian Porter, former attorney general, the guy sort of literally in charge of the justice system. He was named in a historic rape allegation from 1988, which he did vehemently deny. Police ultimately laid no charges after the complainant passed away, and evidence couldn't meet criminal standards. So, on top of that, a Four Corners investigation laid out a long pattern of sexist and inappropriate behavior around women, raising questions about his attitude that way it went way beyond one allegation. So, I mean, you'd think the natural next step would be maybe this guy shouldn't be the top law officer as such. Yep. Instead, he gets a gentle sideways shuffle in cabinet. So he wasn't sacked, he wasn't expelled, just sort of rebatched. Wasn't even stood down. No, and I feel like that's the the boys' loyalty program in action there. We'll take your allegations seriously enough to move you, but not so seriously that you lose the room.
SPEAKER_02But even then, we'll only move you when pressure gets a little bit too much for us to do nothing. Then we'll move you. So had that not have happened, had the pressure from the media not have been as strong, probably wouldn't have even been moved. It would have been let this blow over, like Jimmy. Like Jimmy. Let it blow over.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and another example of how important it is to have that independent media that isn't influenced or owned by other rich, powerful white men, to be honest. Yes, I feel like that's a whole nother episode. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02That is a whole other episode. But the thing is, I mean, he did eventually he did resign from cabinet eventually, but it had nothing to do with the actual substance of the case that we're talking about. It was to do with how he funded his defamation case against the ABC. If you recall, it was to do with I think it was Blind Trust that funded his case against the ABC. So then that raises questions about donations and all that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_00The the piece there as well is thinking, say you are someone that has committed these offences, right? One may be a crime, uh, and others are just really gross behaviors. If you're that kind of person, what are your options when there is, for example, media pressure or when it gets called out? I feel like if you're the kind of person that can behave in such an abhorrent way towards women over and over and over in different ways and be called out for it, that you're not someone that's going to turn around and say, sorry, you know what? I am not behaving in a way that is up to standard of what we should expect of the leaders of our state or our nation. Therefore, I will resign from this post. It's far more likely you're going to be the person that digs their heels in to either A, deny it, because actually you probably think you're entitled to behave in that way and you see nothing wrong with it. Yeah. Or B, uh you're going to deny it just to be a pain in everyone's ass.
SPEAKER_02You know, and stay. Yep, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I guess the the thing when we talk about this level of power is that even if somebody is, say, removed from cabinet, or you can't come and sit in caucus or whatever, the people are the people who remove an elected politician from a position unless there's something that disqualifies them, you know, a prison sentence or a something that disqualifies them from sitting in the parliament. It's the people. And so you might lose your whole electorate through a pattern of behaviour that's become apparent, a pattern of attitudes that's become apparent, but they'll get their say at the next election unless that person chooses to step down themselves. And that's part of it, I guess. And I think when we look to Trump and not to go too far down that rabbit hole. Not yet. Not yet. Um but I think we can look at some of the comments made over the last couple of days by JD Vance that Watergate would have been a 12-hour news story. I think people are learning to brazen things out more.
SPEAKER_00I think you're right.
SPEAKER_02Because there's a 24-hour news cycle and it's no longer today's newspaper, tomorrow's fish and chip wrapper. It's like this hour's story. Yeah. Old news in three hours' time. Like it's it literally people are able to wait for things to blow over because there will be another big story that will take it off the front page of whatever news site you're looking at.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And history tells them that you can still get re-elected anyway. So if you just wait it out, that'll be fine.
SPEAKER_02You can be a felon and be the president of the United States. So like you can. Sweet. Winning. If you're a man.
SPEAKER_00So that's politics for now. We are going to circle back because I know how much you love talking about Trump and Epstein. That's coming a little bit later. But staying in Australia. Obviously. It's very addictive though, because it's almost like I cannot believe what's happening here. I know. Right. Staying in Australia. I want to turn to more our sort of cultural icon.
SPEAKER_02Another one of my favorite people. Is that who we're going to talk about?
SPEAKER_00But you have so many favourite people. I'm going to narrow it down for you. White man.
SPEAKER_02Wealthy. I'm cold. Cold. Shock jock.
SPEAKER_00Oh, have I disappointed you? What if I say the word or the name? Kyle Sanderlands. So okay.
SPEAKER_02He was dead to me the minute he told Jessica Mowboy she had a jelly belly. And when she was 16. Yeah, that's gross, by the way.
SPEAKER_00Dude. That's gross. He has spent decades being paid eight figures to indulge Australia's most vulgar and sexist impulses on Breakfast Radio. So we're talking about uh apparently humiliating a teenage rape survivor with questions about her sex life, turning women's bodies into punchlines like Jessica, and graphic sexual competitions. Regulators found his show repeatedly breached decency codes, A-C-M-A, literally called the content vulgar, sexually explicit, and deeply offensive. And this is daytime radio. Daytime radio, yep. Your children too could be listening to this crap. Campaigners accused the show of normalizing violent misogyny, and big advertisers eventually started to walk. And what happens when the network finally cans him after an on-air blow up? He gets a reported multi-million dollar payout and starts talking about his big return. So you don't have to be a sex offender to benefit from the boys' club. You just have to kind of be the guy who turns women's pain into drivetime content and still walks away with a golden parachute. Comedy very funny. Oh, Sagittarius. He's hilarious.
SPEAKER_02I don't look, Carl Sanderlein's, I don't get it. Obviously, I am not his target audience at all. I've never really understood it. I don't understand why people would want to listen to him just generally. So, you know, maybe I'm not the person to be commenting here, but the fact that he maintains such a high salary for so long for just absolute drivel and vile drivel at that is just absolutely beyond my what I'm able to comprehend really.
SPEAKER_00He's kind of like early manosphere, but without the good body to look at.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Sarah, that's controversial.
SPEAKER_00I know, is it controversial? But the way he speaks about women and he's so much better and smarter, and and how he's constantly so put Jackie O down as well. Yeah. It almost felt a bit like an abusive relationship.
SPEAKER_02But do you know who he's been doing some work with for alongside? Who knows? Because he's it's being cleared up at the moment in what capacity? One Nation, your favourite. Does that surprise me?
SPEAKER_00It does not surprise me.
SPEAKER_02So he's not going to be wanting for money and he gets to help Pauline. So fab.
SPEAKER_00Why are all these people turning to Pauline? Is that the only place that will have them now? Is that it?
SPEAKER_02I think there's something deeper going on here, but we shall continue. We shall continue. We will dig into that. It may be something we need to unravel on another day as well. But he was just always back on air, right? And it's part of the personality now. It's like this cult of personality. Oh, he's just he's the naughty boy. He's not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy. He's a very naughty boy. He's a very naughty boy. And that became his shtick. And once that's his shtick, I don't know. Those platforming him and paying him a lot of money were very forgiving. Speaking of personality.
SPEAKER_00And speaking of forgiving, right? So I don't want to spend too much time in this space just using this as a bit of an example. I want to hop back to the 1990s and look at one of the original members of the loyalty program. And the reason why I want to talk about this person is to do a very brief comparison between what happens when you're the man in a particular situation and a woman in a particular situation. However, the whole looking at how women come out of some of these situations and comebacks, etc., is a whole episode in itself. But I want to talk about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky really quickly. So his scandal is so infamous. Everyone knows Monica Lewinsky's name.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00He had, for those who don't, maybe you're too young to remember this, but Bill Clinton, president of the United States, had an undisclosed sexual relationship with a young intern in the Oval Office. He then lied about it under oath, got impeached for perjury and obstruction, and was ultimately acquitted, and he kept his job. So after that, speaking tours, Global Foundation, a complicated but largely rehabilitated legacy as the charming ex-president who made some mistakes, right? Monica Lewinsky, on the other hand, and she was only in her early 20s at the time, has spent decades talking about excruciating humiliation, feeling like she lost her future because she was, well, she was humiliated and degraded on the world stage, basically. Torn apart again. Over and over, torn apart for her sexuality, her age, her body, everything. She now calls the relationship a gross abuse of power. And she's worked incredibly hard to rebuild herself as an activist and writer, but the scandal still clings to her name far more than it does to his. So this one was about same story, two lives. He gets a second act, and she gets a lifetime of trying to escape being the punchline. It's not just one man's bad behavior in this, it's a whole culture deciding whose future is worth saving. Yeah. Now, I do want us to talk about comebacks in a different episode. But just as an example here, there have been a lot of people very quick to pay out, take the piss out of, etc. Monica Lewinsky. But if we look at exactly what it was, a powerful president.
SPEAKER_02She was an unpaid intern.
SPEAKER_00Unpaid intern. In her early 20s, 2020s. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02There was something like 27-year age difference between the two of them. She was an unpaid intern. The power dynamics there. Unreal. Unreal. And I'm glad she's now having a comeback. And I'm glad that she's now getting, I think, the broader support that she should have had at the time. Because Monica Lewinsky was absolutely a victim in this. And it's one of those things that I think we look back on now and go, why was the world okay with this? Why was this something that was just so funny? That we drag this woman through the absolute mud and just treat this like entertainment when actually she was, yeah, hugely a victim of some pretty crazy power dynamics in that relationship.
SPEAKER_00And then victimised after that as well. Yeah. Yeah. She was, you know, the person that was clearly only after him for his money and his power, as opposed to she was the intern that should never have been preyed upon by this man.
SPEAKER_02And that you would hope media would have possibly a little more of a sense of duty and care about in today's world, although I don't know that that's true. But again, it slower news cycles then as well as there are now. It probably wouldn't survive in the media in the same way uh that Monica Lewinsky did back in the 90s. It was massive. It was a massive scandal. And I'm sure things like that were probably happening all the time. Yeah. And you just didn't hear about it.
SPEAKER_00No, that's true. That's true.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, pretty, pretty gross and you know, good on her for being able to actually use that platform now for something that's hopefully healing for her. She was treated appallingly.
SPEAKER_00And that is up until now defined her entire life. And that just shouldn't be that way. It should not be that way. So bam, bam, bam. We have reached the point now where we need to talk about the deluxe tier of the loyalty program. Your favorite topic, Trump and Epstein. So the gold plated tier. That's right. That's right. Now, Donald Trump, he's been accused of sexual misconduct more times than most of us have had hot dinners, I must say. And a civil jury found him liable for sexual abuse and defamation in the E. Jean Carroll case. And there's been an update on that just in the last few days, hasn't there? Yes. The court upheld that decision. Yes. Tried to get it what's happening?
SPEAKER_02He tried to quashed or get it overturned. Yes, yeah, yeah. And the court said no. The court said no. And again, he was trying to victimise this woman again. Because he's got the power to do that. And it's not isolated because he's quite frankly doing that with anyone who disagrees with him politically. Uh, he is going after people, but it's particularly vicious because she was found to be credibly a victim of sexual assault at his hands. So that's particularly scary. Someone with that amount of power and resources going after a victim of his. Yep. Years and years later. Like we should all be outraged by it. I fear that we're not, because we just look at the whole thing like this ongoing hilarious, terrifying, slightly surreal circus without actually being able to even spend the time thinking about what these actions actually mean.
SPEAKER_00And we knew all of this about him before he was then re-elected, right? He was back on the ballot. We did. Uh people went to his rallies, they bought his merch. They love it.
SPEAKER_02They don't think it's real, though. A lot of his supporters have got absolutely no idea. They're either choosing to ignore the fact that he joked about going into change rooms with very, very young girls. They and they come up with excuses. Oh, the grab 'em by the pussy stuff was just locker room talk. Oh, it's just boys being boys. But if someone we don't like did it, it would be there's the door see you. But no, there's an an awful lot of tap dancing being done. There is. It either can't be true. What was it? Something to do with him saying she wasn't particularly attractive, or would she would, you know, you would never not not his type, all that sort of stuff. And it gets parroted. People just are blocking it out and choosing not to engage with that.
SPEAKER_00And that's that part of that concentric circle piece, providing the soft cushioning for these people to continue being in their powerful positions. Yep. We also have Jeffrey Epstein, your second most favorite topic to talk about. Uh, convicted sex offender, serial exploiter of girls and young women, longtime member of the same social circle as Trump. Court documents, photos, timelines show Trump and Epstein had a sustained friendship through the 90s and early 2000s, parties, flights on Epstein's jet, chatty footage of them together, rating women on the dance floor. Lovely. Epstein got himself sweetheart deals, light sentences, years of protection from powerful men before the whole thing finally blew up. And now, of course, Trump insists that Epstein was just a creep. He threw out of his club, and there's no public evidence Trump committed crimes with Epstein, but the emails and the documents do show Epstein describing Trump as his closest friend for a decade. So there's a lot that isn't proven. There's a lot that is suspected and alleged, but it's still not enough for people. The photos, the documents, the testimony of survivors, the stuff that he even has admitted to that you were just talking to, even that is not enough for people. This feels like the deluxe tier of the loyalty program.
SPEAKER_02It definitely is. And even the fact that there are so many documents they haven't released yet, and that everybody is just sucking up the words of his former personal lawyer, who's now acting head of the Department of Justice, Todd Blanche, who's like, oh no, no, we don't need to release the rest of documents, they're all duplicates, nothing in there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, if there's nothing in there, just release it for one. Um, but interestingly, an update in that case is that an independent journalist, Katie Fang, I watch her channel a lot, she's great. Um, actually was part of a lawsuit recently against the DOJ, saying that basically she was an interested party because she's a journalist and she writes stories that relies on this information that should be public by law. And some various other arguments, and she won. Which is great, isn't it? I mean, great for independent journalists. And here we go again, another woman going, yep, put my name to it. And we know what these men are like. We know that they, you know, we know that they like a target, and she's done it and she won. So they will have to release it.
SPEAKER_00The final part of this before we go into our glimmers is to acknowledge the outer rings of those concentric circles and speaking to the people that might be listening to a show like this one to say, what is our role in all of this? I'm thinking about things like would you consider continuing to watch Jimmy Fallon? Would you send an email to the network? Would you take some kind of action when we see these attempts to enable a comeback or to tongue bath, as he did? I know I love that term. Thank you, John Stewart. To tonguebath this man who has been found liable for sexual assault against a woman, uh, just to make yourself feel better and you know promote your show a little bit. What what is the everydays person action here if we don't want to be complicit?
SPEAKER_02Well, I think we have an example playing out now, and it's one that we'll probably talk about again. But Karl Stefanovic is currently happening. He has some contracts with mainstream media, and well, he doesn't anymore, but he did have some contracts with mainstream media. He has received quite a sizable payout because in his side project, his own podcast, he profiled Tommy Robinson, who is a very polarizing anti-Islamic figure from the UK, who comes with his own criminal record. You would be shocked to find out. And he probably, I'm not going to say it as eloquently as you, I'm going to say it with my UK accent. He tonguebathed Tommy Robinson, you could say. And he was held somewhat accountable for it, but I think it probably has worked out exactly the way that Carl Stefanovic planned for it to. He's been on Piers Morgan, he's being well looked after by the other wealthy men who are like, how could this have happened? You are the ratings king. I was the ratings king. How why? Don't worry, we'll look after you on this yacht while we have this conversation. And I think and I think it is playing out now, and I think some of the things that we can be doing is actually having conversations with each other. And I've certainly been involved in a conversation about this very context and situation this week, where it's like, okay, we can talk about profiling different views and perspectives and how important that is to hear from other people. But when you are in the media, when you are conducting an interview, you actually have a responsibility. And softballing someone who is extremely controversial has controversial views, not great. Not great example of journalism for one. So I think we have to challenge this within our own circles. Happy to hear other perspectives, but let's chat like if there's no challenge, are you endorsing? Are you not? Um, I think letting platforms like whether it's Channel 9 or ARN, who were the ones who had Carl Sanderlands, weren't they? As well, geez, they're on a roll. Let them know that you support their decision. It's not just always about writing and complaining and saying, why haven't you taken Jimmy off the air yet? Why hasn't he apologized? Why has he not said anything? Sometimes it's like, thank you for doing that. There's always a lot of petitions and things that people ignore, and we've talked about that before as well. In fact, I think our very first episode we talked about, or I did because I'm a reality TV tragic, married at first sight. And then petitions that come out season after season for that, they're well used to it. They like the controversy somewhat, I think, because everybody's talking about them. I think sometimes creating a movement around actually supporting a good thing that they do can be just as powerful, if not more powerful.
SPEAKER_00On that note, give me a glimmer, baby.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's school holidays, and I have to say that my glimmer has been spending so much time with my six-year-old. She's um, yeah, she's a little cracker. And I just enjoy hanging out and reading books and swimming, and yeah. She bakes yummy cakes and I eat them, and it's great.
SPEAKER_00That is a win. That is a win. Yes. School holidays here in the territory in dry season. Like, what more do you want? You kind of feel like you're in a tropical paradise. Oh, hang on, stop. We are. And we get to look at the big exhale. It really is. Yes. So I have spent some time with my girls this week camping and going out to a friend's property and you know, just chilling, being away a little bit, not at work, not rushing around. Did you have fireworks? We didn't set any off ourselves. No, we did similarly to you as we took a little drive around town to see them. But uh, I have a child that's very sensitive to noise, doesn't appreciate the fireworks at all. And to be honest, firework plus alcohol combo that is quite prevalent here. It makes me quite concerned about safety as well. So for me, it's not a night I enjoy. Fair enough.
SPEAKER_02Just for anybody listening who's not from the Northern Territory, it's a celebration of self-government. I have to say, that's really it actually is a really important day. And we love living up here. A lot of people think it's just about blowing shit up, and they do enjoy that for that day we can blow shit up. And they do it with absolute gusto. So happy territory day to our fellow territorians. But I hope you're getting some solid time with your kidlets if you have them. And uh, you know.
SPEAKER_00And it wouldn't be a territory day without doing a great shout out to our doctors, nurses, and other staff. Fieries, our rangers that look after the dogs that freak out when there's fireworks, uh, but also in particular our medical staff that are looking after people. I know it's a very hectic night. The guys on the roads, I saw several ambulances actually. Yeah. Ah, amazing people in our community. Right, so that is today's tour through the boys club loyalty program. So my thoughts are if you're still buying the membership, so if you're still laughing along, if you're voting for them, if you're booking them, if you're watching the comeback specials, you are actually not a bystander. I'd like to call you out. You are part of the perks package, baby. So rage responsibly, drink water, and next time you see another lovable rogue or larrican getting his 15th chance, we want you to ask yourself am I clapping or am I canceling my subscription to this bullshit? Rage on. Rage on.
