Trials and Grace

On todays episodes of The Campy Tales Podcast, get ready for some exciting discussions about biblical diseases. We will also play a great game that can be used for any of your pre chapel meet ups. 

The Campy Tales Podcast is Christian Camp podcast meant to help support youth pastors, engage youth groups, and anyone looking for some fun Bible discussions. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to Campy Tales!

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We're gonna talk about leprosy! And we're gonna talk about the most physically thing we've done uh here at camp. Beautiful. That was great. You wanna try?

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We're gonna talk about and we're gonna play a game, a really hard game. Yeah. We just, you know, we gotta guess these things.

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Could it be about camper allergens?

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It could be. It also could be about camp songs. Camp songs. And camp noises. Noises. Noise activities. Oh, we got activities.

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There's a lot. There's a lot in this episode that I was excited. You know what? Let's dive in.

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We also referenced Spongebob a couple of times.

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Couple Spongebobs of my body.

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Out of nowhere.

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Who do we talk about in Spongebob? Larry? Larry? I've mentioned Larry. Maybe, maybe we'll talk about Larry. We'll see. Oh good Larry Boy. Let's get this thing started.

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Let's do it! Shouting happily campy tails!

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Alright, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Campy Tales Podcast where we play fun games that you could play around the campfire or in chapel. We have fun guests. Which we don't today. This is like the first one. None of us are fun. Yeah, none of us are fun. We don't have any fun guests here, fun people.

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Should we have like a puppet or something as a guest? Ooh.

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Wait, like can you there you go.

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There's our fun guest, Fancy's hands. And I know like the last six episodes, I think we've had guests on. Yeah. So this is kind of special. It's just us again. I love it.

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I'd have to say, no, no offense to any of the weeks prior, but last week's special guests were probably some of my favorite. They were the best. I'm not biased at all.

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They were pretty dang cute and noisy. It was awesome. We have a very fun game we're gonna play today. We're gonna test this out to see if it actually could work as a chapel game. So bear with us a little bit as we play this. But um, don't look, Michael. No peeking. This go and look at that. Whoa, whoa, whoa! You can't see. This is this wall. I'm gonna pull this up.

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Never noticed this wall before. Can you see that?

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Backwards. Take a look at this.

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I'll take a picture of it. We'll put it up on the screen. But we're playing a version of the $10,000 Pyramid game show with each other. I've never seen that game. So it's it's it's really old. It's from 2010.

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I was 10.

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Really old. Uh-oh. Wait. Now I don't even know when that show was airing, like the 90s. I have never heard of that. That was before Who Wants to be a Millionaire? Well then it was like Celebrity Pyramid. I've never seen that one. So basically, it's like just filming. I know the Giza. What? Pyramid. I know Deal and No Deal. I guess they played Clifford. Or Family Fuse. Let's go. This game is different. Okay. It's not like Deal and No Deal. The gameplay is very simple. On your papers, you have a triangle with four quadrants on it. Each triangle quadrant is filled with a word that's associated to a specific category. Alright. So each of us have chosen a category and have filled the pyramid with words from that category. Now what we're gonna do is we're gonna do a 2v2. So me and Goose versus Gimli and Fancy to see if we can finish these cards faster. We got a minute worth of time. So pretty simple. So Gimli, I'll trade with you. Okay. And Fancy will trade with G. Well, I can I get to read these. I know. Yeah. Yeah, you get to read these. So each of us have chosen a camp category and have swapped our categories with somebody else. Look at them. You can look at them. Now your goal, you have to turn it the right way. Oh, mine too. Your goal is to get Fancy to guess those words in those categories.

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But we don't say the words. We say like everything except for the words.

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You say everything rhymes with. Um rhyming. No rhyming. So you just have to describe it. The word is baseball bat, and you have to say race brat.

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It rhymes with brat.

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Yeah. Race ball rat. Okay. Who wants to go first?

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Uh we can go first. Okay, okay.

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You go first, first me, then me, then Mike.

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Do I get to tell him the category?

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You could tell him the category.

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Okay.

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The category is Wait, wait, let me start a timer. You have one minute. You can tell him the category.

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Okay, the category is camper allergies.

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Are these like scientific names or is this just like ob like what they're just basic? Okay. Got it. Okay. Are you ready? How much time?

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One minute. Do you think one minute? We could do it in one minute. Okay, ready? Lock in.

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Lock in, dude.

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Three, two, one.

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Begin! Birds eat these.

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Peanuts. Nuts. Nuts is an answer. Nuts.

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Burr you would put them in a bird feeder.

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Seeds.

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Yes. So you got two. The next one.

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Oh my gosh.

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They are in the ocean.

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Fish. Seafish. Crawfish.

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They have an exterior to them. They have an exterior to them.

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Shellfish.

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Yes. The last one, it is in um his name is Larry.

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Cucumber.

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In Spongebob.

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Vegetables.

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His name is Larry in SpongeBob.

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The cucumber.

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No, not the cucumber. He's big and red and he has all the muscles.

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I remember Larry Bob. All the muscles. Larry Bongebob.

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In SpongeBob. All of the muscles in SpongeBob. He's a stir. What is he?

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Plankton?

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No!

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He's big and red and he's got big buttons. What? I thought you said veggie tails. I thought you said veggie tails too.

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I said Spongebob. Put it back.

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I heard veggie tails.

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You just turned into a cucumber. I said Larry, and you were just like cute. I said his name is Larry in Spongebob.

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Okay. Oh man. You get to go next. I'm trying to guess Larry Boy. I don't know what one of these is. Okay. So did you make this one up? No. What's the category? Category is camp songs. Okay. Three, two, one. Uh nursery. Rhymes. Second story window. Yeah. Well, not second. It's it's the toss. Toss. Throw it out the window. Yeah. Okay. Uh second story. God's only son. Jesus. Loves me. Uh he is a buddy by me. Jesus is a friend of mine. Yeah, but this is a lyric in the song. Jesus is a friend of mine. Buddy near me. That lyric. Friend near me. Jesus friend by me. Jesus. Jesus is a friend by me. Skip it, skip it, skip it. Yeah? Jesus is a friend. He's a friend next to you. Uh this is uh Spider Man. Milk Pizza Man. Yeah. This last one is uh I don't know. Is this a Selena song, dude? Uh boom, boom. Boom, chicka boom. Uh uh uh boom. Um boom boom. Uh let me hear you say way ho. I don't know what it is. That's it, yeah. Betty Bomb Bum? Betty Bum Bum.

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Betty Bum Bum Betty Betty Bum Bum. And then you go thumbs out, thumbs out, elbows in, elbows in, knees together. Knees together.

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We start doing baby.

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Tongue out, he bob. Betty bum bum baby bum bum.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

Oh, that's pretty good. That was J song, right? J taught it. You did, you did.

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Don't look, don't look. Okay, here we go, here we go. Here we go. Ready? Yeah. Verse one. Outside in the forest, you hear the sound of bird. And all of it together. What? You hear all the different sounds of birds chirping. Birds chirping. No, like the forest being outdoors, you would call that. Yes. Um loud mechanical noises that make power. Uh buzzing. What? Loud mechanical machines that make power players. Mechanical machines? Generators? Yeah, beautiful. Um people who use instruments and sing, play. Musicians. They yeah, but they're leading songs, worship. Yes. And all of the campers when they are screaming are considered Loud. Loud. Happy. Loud what? Loud sounds. Yeah, what's another word? Loud screams. What's another word for kids? Oh man, I don't know. Like another, like another name for kids. Like you they're they're not. Oh, little. They're loud. Children. Yeah! We got it! We got all five. We got all four! Four. Four of them. And the category. So that's- I actually didn't hear the category. Oh. Camptons. That makes way more sense.

SPEAKER_03 9:08

I think you that helps a lot.

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I didn't know it to him until after.

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Are lobster and shellfish not the same thing?

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Lobster is a type of shellfish. Camp camper allergens. These are things that people put on their allergen list when they submit, like, I have allergies.

SPEAKER_03 9:25

I didn't know we serve lobster.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

We don't. But people put that. And shellfish. We also don't have any nuts in our kitchen or seeds. I'm wondering though, like what camps are they going to where they're like, oh, we gotta make sure I tell them I can't have lobster.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

That made me think of the one person who's like sent in this itinerary, and the itinerary was like this long descriptive like, as soon as you walk through the door, you will be welcomed by a um camper lodge environment with and there will be serving steak and I think you reached out and you were like, hey, uh I don't remember talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

They bring a max camp. Who is it? Is it max camp? That's so great. I don't know if I want to I guess I'd shout them out. Holy Holy Spirit Catholic Church. They uh they um Holy Spirit, yeah, I think that's what it's called. Um but that was the best. They sent me for my watchers, they sent me a 50-page itinerary, and I was like, man, alright, I'm gonna go through this, make sure I have everything right. And as I was going through, he described every single meal, and it was like, uh, today's meal will be served with um it was like uh street street side uh carne sada tacos with uh chopped onions and lemon cilantro. Oh my god I'm like, oh my gosh, we don't do any of that. Does he think we're doing this? And then on the side it was like, and leaders will be served tableside margaritas with their I was like, this is like what I called him, I was like, hey, this is a joke, right? And he's like, yeah, I wanted to see how many people would actually read it.

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I did.

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I did, man. I did. Oh, you want to do our intro? Oh the last couple weeks. Well, last week we didn't have you on, and it was awesome. Did you really get you listen to it? It's so bad. It's so bad. So bad. Um, are we ready?

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Ready. Three, two, one. We're gonna guess about Jesus.

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You guys are so much better.

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I wish the audience could like have these earphones on for a second because it is amazing.

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So distracting, I bet. They're called headphones. All right. The question of the day today. It's not that question of the day, but I I wanted to ask something. Say it. Really cool. Yeah, really cool. What is it? Um, what it is, what has been the most physically challenging thing that you have done at camp? I actually, man, I'm thinking like now I kind of want to talk more about schedules. Schedules. Because that guy sent me the 50-page schedule. Like that's such a good way challenging. No, physically, physically challenging.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

Um, I can go first because I still have yet to achieve this, but I'm so close. So, our ropes course. I love our ropes course. It's so much fun. I've done Narrow Way and Um Rue and I played on like the bottom part of Upward Call. We would just yeah. Anyway, but Leap of Faith looks like so much fun. And I want to have my um greatest showman moment where I just hang on to a trapeze, and in my brain, I'm in front of a live audience singing my heart out. It's phenomenal. Okay. The first time I climbed it, I couldn't even stand on top of it. Like I could not figure how to, so I just kind of and then the second time I got on top of it, but I couldn't stand up. And then the third time I got, I stood up, but I didn't catch the trapeze. Actually broke a nail because I like hated, but I couldn't catch it. And so I was just that I have yet to achieve that. So whenever somebody does it, I'm always like, man, you sound like you get it.

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You're really you're stupid, man.

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So silly.

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I always put some flubber on your shoes.

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Yeah, that's not hard.

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It is a physically challenging thing.

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And what blows my mind is that Ranger said that there's somebody who used to work here. I don't know, I don't remember his camp name, but he would do it um and he would have his hands tied together. And he would climb it and then jump and still catch the trapeze.

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That sounds like Groot, doesn't it? I think that was Chris. Sounds like sticks all day. Sticks?

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Sticks was his camp name?

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Or stick? I think we called him sticks. Sticky. Very sticky. Yeah, he was very sticky. Just like a branch. Like a like a branch. He was very sticky, like what comes off of a tree. Small branch. Yeah.

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And so I just like it it's a physically challenging thing. And so whenever a kid comes down, I'm always like, you know what, dude? Kudos. I get it. I I feel your pain, dude. Because they're like, my friends did it. And I was like, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

It's all right. That's you'll get to your moment. It is tough. I mean, you climb up that pole and then it's all wiggly when you get to the top, and then it's only a size of a plate standing on it.

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And even though you know, like looking at it from the ground, it's like, yeah, you're high up, but you're not. And also when you're belaying someone, you're locked in in it a different way of like, okay, I know my rope is where it needs to be. There's no slack. I'm watching the but when you're up there, you're not thinking about what the belayer's thinking about. And so like you have that extra of like, oh, I'm nervous because I don't feel like I'm being supported by anything, even though I'm, you know, have a full body harness on right now and I'm attached to somebody. Yeah. I know they're gonna catch me, but your brain's not thinking about that. Your brain's just like, I have to catch this thing and jump off of this thing, and I'm really high up right now.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

I still I have not even done our leap of faith yet. Oh, really? Have you? Yeah. Every I guess every week I'm just gonna come up and be like, this is what else I haven't done here. Yeah. I think all I haven't done is uh John 15 maybe lines. I haven't done those either.

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You know what I really want to do?

SPEAKER_01 15:41

Jesus. The other one? Yeah, the other I haven't done that one. You haven't done the centurion. I have not done the centurion.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Is it centurion or centurion?

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We're gonna have it open for summer. I always said centurion. Centurion. I'm just saying it because then it's then it's canon. Um you have one? Yeah, are they are these all gonna be rope scores? Is yours robes course? Mine is two. Mine is construction related. Ropes course. You go. You go. Maybe it'll spark something else. I am I I was thinking about it, like, man, I'm so strong that nothing's even really physically challenging in my car. Yeah. Yeah. You have the same issue, huh? Um when I first started at Mile High, they were doing a lot of construction uh remodeling. And one I think I think one of the most within one refurb that we did, it there was so many different things that were just so physically draining. One was uh the contractor wanted me to tear out why did it beep?

SPEAKER_00 16:42

That was your go-book.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

You wanna see if that's still on? I think it died. Um pause. Pause. I'm gonna keep talking while Michael's doing that. Um because it's lunchtime almost. And we still gotta do the question of the day. So, anyways, there's a big old concrete slab on the side of the building, and he wanted me to take it out, and he had a jackhammer, and I was at it for no kidding, probably like 16 hours. And it was like it was probably like five square feet. Like it was not a big thing, but I was like and then I had to get in there with a sledgehammer, and I was like, this is impossible, it's not breaking. The other one was insulation. Insulating the roof of that cabin hurt so bad. Because I was like up in these like little corners, we vaulted the ceiling, and I was up in like these little rafters, and I'm like pulling the insulation, it's rubbing up against my face, trying to get it into the right place in the ceiling. And then at the end of the day, I was like in my face and my eyes. I'm like, this is this is not fun. Sword. I don't like it. I don't like it. And then we did that for what? You were there, we did it for like we did insulate. I feel like we were doing insulation for a week at least. Dude, I think I left before that. Before we started insulating? I helped demo. He did one day, and he was like, Alright, they got it. Yeah, I have a picture of me up above one of the rooms and it's all just studs, and I took a picture like laying down on the stud and up. Yeah, me and you. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember demoing that cabin with me? And then we pulled out one of the walls, and there was just like Oh, I didn't see that. Oh, really? No, I was gonna say, Yeah, uh, I found like 150 dead mice. Oh, like they just kept falling into the wall and getting trapped and dying. Let's cut that, bro. Not a discount. Yeah, that was another camp. This was a different camp. It was, it really was. It really was. But no, that we found from when they built that building in 1947. We found Bud Light. There was like three Bud Light cans in the attic in the installation. Yeah, I remember that. And they were like newspapers and stuff, too. Ancient. They did, they weren't even shaped like our cans. They were looked more like a soup can. Like they didn't have, you know how they have like the chamfer in and a smaller lid? It was not. It was like a like pretty much a seamless, like a can. We didn't want to display that like for the historical findings on mile high. I think I took photos of it. If you find it, we'll if he finds it, we'll pop it up. That was cool. That's crazy. Uh mine was on the upward call, uh, rebuilding it. I replaced some some carabiners at the top, and I've told you this. But you didn't tell me in a lot of detail. Okay, so be real detailed. So there I was. It was a nice day, a couple clouds, 73 degrees. Uh so it's pretty irrelevant to the story. To the whole story, because it didn't change anything for me, but I did have to replace a couple little links on our upward call ladder. And uh it's a giant ladder for anyone that's just doesn't know what our upward call is. Um so it's a two-person climb, and I did not use the service line because I was like, oh, I want to climb it. And it I didn't think it would be that hard, but it really It's tough. It was really hard. Yeah, climbing it alone with all your gear to replace everything. Um yeah, that was really bad. I think I got to like the second to the last rung, and I just sat there for a couple of minutes, three or four minutes. I'm like, dude, I can't even get to this last rung. Well, you're by yourself, so it's meant to be a team challenge, like you're supposed to do it with another person.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Were they acting was the belayer helping you? No, not at all. No, no.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Oh, no, and I didn't know I I don't know why I didn't do the service line. I'm guessing I just didn't even know that that one had one. Well, because that was a while ago. It was yeah, it was like the first summer, probably.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

So I tried to you were like, you looked at it and you're like, I could do it.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

I tried to do an upper call on myself and I couldn't do it. I got to like the second one, and I I pulled a lot of things. I pulled a lot of things. Well, my I just felt like every limb just like pull together, and I heard popping. I'm like, Yeah, I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

I mean, I I did a lot of rope scores stuff like 10 years before this moment, and then I went away into a totally different industry, and then I came right back, and I just assumed that I was still like uh 19-year-old. Could climb the rock wall with just your arms, and then I learned what it was like to be 30. So uh Yeah, it was the same thing with the uh the Ten Commandments, the the little vines swinging across the Ten Commandments. I was like that one is tough. That's just monkey bars. Like, it was gonna be so easy to do monkey bars. I think I did like one and a half ropes and I fell.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

I was belaying for a kid, and I was like, hey, I'm gonna give you your weight, and he just like, no, no, don't give it. And I was like, dude, that's the fucking and so I gave it to him, and then like when he came down, he goes, I told you not to give me my weight. And then he got back in line and he was like, Okay, do it again. And so this time I held his weight, and when he came down, all his friends were like, Oh my gosh, you didn't. He's like, Yeah. And I was like, Okay, dude, live your best life, man.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Piece of cake. I wanna I wanna try that again. Let's do it. Yeah. Right now. I want to do leap of fan. And I don't want my weight. The vines, yeah. You want me to hold it through? I did not know that was an option. That's um great.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

Do you have one, Michael? I mean the I think the hardest thing physically that I've done isn't the actual thing that I did, but it was like coming back from I think I think it was when I had pneumonia. And and my lungs were still like catching up with me and I was still recovering. It takes like sometimes over a year for you to fully recover from your lungs. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

Wow. Dang. And then you had to lead worship.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

I still feel it. And I was like, that was last year. That's last March. So right now, this is the hardest thing. This is right now talking on the coming back. I think we were we we were uh I think we were just doing a trial for paintball with uh Palomar, I think is what it was.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

Or maybe No, no, no, it would have been World No, they didn't they didn't come until last December.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

I I don't remember when it was, but we were doing some sort of paintball up in the hills and just going up those hills into the into the forest. That was really hard. You have like 40% lung capacity. Yeah. That is tough. Yeah. A lot of physically challenging opportunities at camp. But I feel like once I came back, it was like everything physical I had to do. I was doing activities uh at the ropes course, zip line, paintball, target. Just like standard, yeah. You're like do it. Just like normal, but I felt felt like it was more.

SPEAKER_03 23:20

You know what? But as physically hard as it is, it's also like you're having so much fun most of the moments where it's like, ah, this is like last night at the dance party, I pulled at all of the dads and all of the chaperones and stuff in, and we did Cotton Eye Joe, which is burning burning b-tone's horde. And all of the parents were like grabbing their knees and they you know at their back, they're like, ooh, that was and I was like, Yeah, we do this, we do this every week, and they all just like stared at us. And I was like, but like this is so much fun, like this is my job, this is crazy. So even though I go home limping because the cotton eye gels just takes me out, I'm always like, wow, those kids are gonna remember that dance. They might not remember me, but they're gonna remember just having so much fun. And so whether it's upward call, leap of faith, installing installation, like these are things that we can remember years later and be like, we wouldn't get that experience anywhere else. Camp is so used to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

We should add that to the camper activities, dude. What insulation? Yeah, insulation wars, insulation maze, right? There's this there's this one time we were working on a cabin down the hill, and uh it was my my mother-in-law's like they had this little cabin next to their house, and we were remodeling it, and um in the morning we had got there and we had just taken out like all the old insulation and laid it out in the backyard, and there was a homeless guy just sleeping in the insulation with the insulation over his face to keep him warm. I was like, dude, this guy's next level. Resourceful, resourceful, and then he wakes up just like let's go. Alright. Oh man. It's probably warm. Oh, it was probably real warm. Probably felt great. Probably a good night's sleep. You guys know what time it is? Yes. It's time for the question of the day! The question of the day! Here we go. Let's roll it! That was kind of weak. Ugh. Ugh! Roll it, roll it like a big one! Yeah, look at that. That was a spin, baby. Again. And the question is would you rather have leprosy or jobs trials?

SPEAKER_03 25:35

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Or jobs trials. Yeah, or jobs trials. Which one? Job's trials. You have a I've I've actually been thinking about this a little bit. Because have we cured that yet? No. It's terminal. That's what I'm thinking. Like, leprosy is terminal. I know where I'm going. With Job's trials. Life is terminal, too. Life is terminal, dude. Wow, that's why you need so sad to start. But with Job's trials, you lose like everything. Uh and then it comes back. When you get it back. But the trial is a good thing. Is that part of the trial? Getting it all back? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

But he didn't just get it all back, he got it back in some.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

It's just saying the trials. Which would you choose? Do you have it? So I think it ends like after stuff. Yeah, that's true. Like there's no good stuff that happens. If we're taking the weight that it's phrased, yes, it's just a I honestly I feel like it would be easier to have leprosy. Like, even though it's terminal, it's like I don't think I could stand to watch everything I love be taken away from me. But it is, it's it's super impressive. Like, uh what's that that 21 Pilot song? Bullet for them, Bullet for You. Yeah. Like you don't you don't really know. Bullet for them. That'd be really cool to be like, yeah, I I can stand up to anything and just continue praising God and loving God through all the trials. That's cool. But I think the leprosy thing sounds like more self-sacrificial and I'll take the hit, guys. Yeah, maybe a little better. I don't know. I also don't know if I could do that. Like going through Job's trials and like like I would still believe in Jesus, but I don't know if I could like honestly say I would worship him while all that stuff is happening. You would think back to when you spun it. Yeah, now I'd be like question. You'd be like, oh, I should have just chose leprosy. Why didn't I just choose that when I spun the wheel?

SPEAKER_00 27:37

So let me think about it for for a second. What would show more grace from God if uh your kids had to watch you go through leprosy or for a building to just fall down and kill 'em? And they go just go to heaven right there and then.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

What shows more grace?

SPEAKER_00 27:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Probably them going to heaven is my guess. Yeah. Like they just they just they don't have to witness any of that stuff on earth. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

I think that would be my tr mine. You're choosing trials. Yeah. Because my kids would just go right to heaven instead of watching me suffer for the rest of my life.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

I think that camera turned off again. Uh uh. But that was a good answer, Gimli. That was a good answer. I do.

SPEAKER_03 28:26

You know, I'm not like I don't I'm not married. I don't have kids.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

So a lot of people. Take that one then. Take it.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Nothing to lose. I have a lot. No, I don't. Um, but when I was like while you guys were talking, you know, I was like, yeah, okay. First of all, leprosy makes me think of Siddhisloth. Ah, leprosy. But that's besides the point. Um, I think I just the book of Job is probably one of my favorite books. It's very, very, very humbling. And I man, the amount that I complain about when it's actually blessings that I've been entrusted with, and to think that Job walked away. I mean, man, he just had so much more of a grasp. He had so much more of a grasp of what mattered. And I think I would want Job's trials one for my relationship with the Lord. I I I crave that intimacy with Alba. I crave that relationship, that that dependency. And then whether it comes with the blessings at the end or not, man, would the Lord be able to use me for people that were either at the brink of losing everything or were it felt it like they were in that same spot. Like the Lord would be able to use that, maybe not in the same capacity that he did Job, but I think anything that we go through, good or bad, is meant to honor and glorify the Lord first and foremost. And I think that especially nowadays to lose everything in a generation where we so much value stuff.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

All the stuff.

SPEAKER_03 30:22

And and we're we're so quick to things and and we're not patient. And so I think I think Job's trials.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

I'm still choosing leprosy. Yeah, you guys are wrong.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

Ah, leprosy trials.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

I just want to die and go to heaven. Yeah. I know I was about to say, I know where I'm going. Are we going into this knowing that we're gonna have Job's trials, or is it gonna be like Job where Job has no idea that God is testing him and dialogue? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

As soon as we leave this room, you're choosing right now.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

So you're you you're choosing. You're you're no you know. So are so you're choosing forward. You're not choosing and then going back and having your memory erased or anything like that. No. Well, because part of part of part of Job's trials is he had no idea of what was going on. He just thought. He's like, this is crazy. He just thought he was.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

I think in order for it to be like a Job's like Job's trial, it would be like, I don't know, either wipe your memory or like years later when you forget about this, and then it's just out of nowhere. Like, I think that would make it a true like Job's trial. It would have to be a I didn't know it was happening type thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Not knowing and not choosing it, because he didn't choose it.

SPEAKER_03 31:30

And after a season of like people would look at you and be like, wow, this person's after the Lord's heart. This is a righteous person. Because that's where Job was. Job was considered righteous and was you know, had a good head on his shoulders.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

And we get to we get to read the dialogue between him and Satan, but he didn't know that was happening. So I think that's part of the trial. I'm still going with leprosy.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

I just want this to be on the are you on leprosy still? I just yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Sounds nice to me. Yeah. We'll be in there together, dude. Yeah, Leprosy Brothers. You get to like look like a leopard and the little raps. I that's what I always picture from I think the Ten Commandments. No, which movie was that Ben Hur, maybe? Yeah, probably Ben Hur when they're just You go and they just they have the little like the bridges over their heads. Just kind of walking around.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

It like makes your fingers and stuff fall off. That's all I think on your nose and it's a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

That's when you do the ace bandages. Yeah. Just keep it on there. Yeah, boom, like a mummy. That's pretty. That's probably where that came from. What's the deal? Isn't it like, doesn't it spread on contact or something? Yeah. I think it is airborne. Like popular? Like people it's still a thing. I don't know that many people that are doing that. Having leprosy? Yeah. Like I just haven't heard of that in a while. Where is that happening? It probably Jesus cured a bunch of them, man. I wonder if that actually happened. You have to do some research. Because you probably cured a ton of people with leprosy when he was out there. I know that it's still a thing, but it's just not nearly as prevalent anymore. Well, with that being said. What would you choose?

SPEAKER_04 33:07

Let us know in the comments.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

Let's close it out. You ready, Fancy? We'll say goodbye for today. We're running up against the clock here. We're already 10 minutes late for lunch and people are screaming at us.

SPEAKER_03 33:19

Alright, ready?

SPEAKER_01 33:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

Camp it. Well, you didn't count down. You guys said you were ready.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

I'm ready for a countdown.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

Two. Campitas, can't it, can't talk. I've got lots of stuff. It's a everybody.