Grieving those still here. (Separation)

Grief doesn’t always come from loss through death—sometimes it comes from distance.

In this episode, we open up about what it means to grieve someone who is still alive. Whether it’s separation in marriage, family distance, or relationships that have changed beyond recognition, this kind of pain is often unseen and unspoken.

We talk about the tension of loving someone while needing space, the guilt that can come with choosing separation, and how faith plays a role in letting go of what we can’t control.

This is a raw and honest conversation about heartbreak, boundaries, and healing without closure.

If you’ve ever missed someone you had to step away from… this episode is for you.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Hello and welcome to Still Walking. I'm Michelle.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

I'm Thomas. And today we're going to talk about something that's been kind of prevalent here lately in lives, uh, not just with us, but with other people that we've talked to and things. Um, it's about separation and mourning people who are still alive. As crazy as that sounds, that's actually that happens quite a bit. Just because somebody's not deceased doesn't mean you don't grieve them, because sometimes relationships and things aren't what they need to be, so you have to separate yourself, but you still miss what used to be, what was there, relationships you used to have. You still miss what's no longer there. Um, and that's becoming quite prevalent nowadays.

SPEAKER_03 1:11

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Um I'll start off with prayer before we get into all we got jam-packed with scriptures today.

unknown 1:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

So let's start off with a prayer. Uh Lord, we thank you for this day you've given us. We thank you for this time on this platform. Lord, open the hearts and minds of those who are listening. Let what needs to be conveyed by your words be going through us to convey to that to those that need to hear, what need they need to hear. Lord, right now, just guide us, lead us, give us wisdom, guide our words. Lord, be with those that are listening. Open their hearts, open their minds, let them take what they need from it and help it lead and guide them. We thank you for this in your mighty, mighty name, and we accept it. In Jesus' name, amen.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

Amen.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Um, one of the biggest things that's a difficult for people is separating different things that's no longer healthy or constructive for you. Um, if you have relationships with people, and this isn't just personal, this is now you know, friends, family, anybody else, if relationships aren't constructive to you or helping you grow and nurture yourselves and just build yourself up and a flip through a flip jewel and make you better, it's okay to separate. Um, that happened all throughout the Bible in the Word, even so far back as Adam and Eve. After Cain killed Abel, God marked him and separated him from his parents. Uh, it says that in Genesis 4 13. He says, Hold on, Genesis 4 13. Uh, and Cain said to the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me this out this day from the face of the earth, and from thy face shall I be hid, and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth, and it shall come to pass that everyone that findeth me shall slay me. God knew what he was after he committed a heinous crime that was no longer that wasn't he committed murder, which is one of the most heinous things a person can do to somebody else. And even God marked him and cast him out, separated him so that way Cain and Abel could still at least try to thrive and survive. Um, it even went so far as later on in Genesis when God tried to save Lot and his wife from Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities that were vile and wicked. Um he told them, you know, leave and get you out because he's going to destroy the cities. Even so much to where, if you interpret, you can interpret it this way God separated Lot from his wife. Because as they were in Genesis 19, 26, it says, But his wife looked back from behind him and she became a pillar of Saul. Her heart was still in the wickedness, her heart was still where God was trying to get them out of. He said, Don't look back, he's going to take care of it. She looked back. So God separated them because it was constructive for Lot or his family or those that were being driven out of the city to for survival. Um, now that's not to say to kind of go back to what we said previously about mourning somebody who's not alive. That's not to say that Adam and Eve didn't mourn, probably didn't mourn the loss of their son being cast out, because now they had two sons initially. The one killed the other one, the other one was driven out. They mourned, missed, didn't like the fact they didn't have that relationship with him anymore because that is their child, that is their son. Lot probably missed his wife terribly because that was his wife. She was the mother of his children, and he she was no longer there. It's okay to separate from situations and things and people, but it's also okay to when you don't no longer have those relationships to mourn them, to miss what was there because you're with somebody long enough and go through things long enough. You build this foundation and this history and life and stuff and everything, and when it's not there no more for one reason or the other, it's very sad and heartbreaking. It is, it's it's it's very, very terrible.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

Um it's it's easier, I think, to navigate the loss of a loved one that's past. Um it doesn't it doesn't get easier with time, it doesn't get easier each day. Uh, you just learn to live a new life, a life that doesn't involve the people that are no longer with you. And it's hard. I we're not trying to take away from anybody who's lost anybody. We've all lost people. Um, today we're just focusing on um grieving those that are still alive, and whether they've cut you out or you've cut them out, it is a difficult journey to navigate, and people don't talk about it very often. We'll talk about putting the boundaries up, but what does it feel like once they're in place and secure?

unknown 6:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Um one one of the first things before and before initially, like we said, it's okay to separate and put up the boundaries and just kind of that is okay. But you need to follow with the steps of the word and follow what you know the Bible says before you immediately jump to that. You can't immediately just be like, oh well, they made me mad, so they're out. That's that's not that's not good on your end either. You need to do what what you're supposed to do. Um, perfect example. Uh the Bible specifically talks that talks, says that in Matthew 5.23. It says, Therefore, if thou bring thy gift to the altar and the remembrance that thy brother hath ought against thee, leave there thy gift before the altar and go thy way. First be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. Basically, what that's saying is before you can do what you need to do, as far as the steps do go in your life to go this, this, this, this. If you have something against your brother, your brother has against you, or a friend or whoever, you need to go with to them, address it, talk about it, try to see what's going on. Because a vertic could just be something as trivial as a complete misunderstanding, miscommunication, could just be something very trite.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

But the devil uses people better than we, you know, first and foremost, he can have somebody get in there and stir that pot, make it bigger than what it is. He can play on people's minds and be like, Well, I can't believe this happened. It could be something so so small. So you need to go to that person, talk it out, and everything could be completely fine. So I'd be like, Oh, I didn't mean it that way, or I didn't mean that, you know, it was a miscue, I misunderstood, you know, what blah blah blah. Hash it out, and it's fine. But if it becomes a repetitive, habitual thing where it feels like you're the one always going, or when you feel like whenever something is addressed and nothing ever gets fixed or reconciled, and it seems like all the flame is pointed one direction, that's a good sign that maybe you need to just separate a little bit. And if it's like, like we said, if it's somebody that's been close to you, a friend you've had for 20 years, family, whoever, it's very sad because you've you've lost something that you've had for so long. You've lost something that's very dear. Like it's like an actual physical loss. When somebody passes, you miss it and you mourn it because it's not there no more. You don't have that relationship anymore. It's it's it's gone, it's done. Same base, same thing applies with some people that are still alive and that happens. I feel it's harder in that aspect for the simple fact they're still there and it's always being brought up, it's always at the forefront, it's always like in the right in right in your face, so it's a constant reminder.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

So I mean it's it's it's very sad and very hard. It is.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Um it is the the best thing that you can do is do your best to try to salvage it, talk with those, try to make amends for whatever. Well, even even if you've done nothing wrong, be like, hey, if I've done something, I apologize. I want to make this better, I want to make it, you know, I want to make this, I want to heal this, I want to make this right. You know, the the Bible says you're supposed to, you know, forgive your brother, ask for forgiveness, 70 times 70. So that pretty much means an infinite amount of times. But like I said, if it turns into a one-way, one-sided thing, and somebody's always playing like, well, you did, you did, you did, that's not healthy for you to keep constantly going back and saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, either. It's it's it's it's okay, and and eventually you you navigate that like you would a physical loss. You know, God will help you, He'll make things easier, He will He will navigate you through on how to be okay around those people when you have to, and it not hurt so much.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

Yeah. Um We've always been open to have conversations. Um, if you want to talk to us about anything, just ask. Um and with that, we have always contacted people and been like, hey, we don't feel like things are right. Like what? Did we do something? Or we've even contacted people to just clear the air, you know, like families have skeletons, and I'm not one that likes to keep them around. I I just rather everybody be on the same page and let's not hold all these skeletons in the closet like a dark secret. Let's let the light shine in and let that testimony out. Like, yeah, you did these things, yeah, that was you in the past, but that's not who you are now. Um with that, the last time that we approached a situation like that, it was just I think people were so hurt and so angry that sometimes we just don't listen. And that's where I'm at now is grieving those that are no longer really in our lives as much as we used to be. Um it's hard, it's hard and easy at the same time, like you have this piece of you don't have any of the negativity or the crap that comes along with these certain situations or with these certain people, but in all the crap, there was some good moments, but it's to the point now where sometimes when you're around these people, especially recently, there was nothing nice said, it was all negative, and to me, I've just reached a point in my life where if you have to put somebody down to make you feel good, I'm really learning what narcissistic traits are and who is a true narcissist and who isn't, and when you really get your eyes open to that, it's a hard it's it's just hard because then you start to mourn the past, you start to mourn what they used to be before they became who they are now, and it's just it's really hard, especially when it's somebody you're close with, like a very close friend or a family member, but separation has brought peace, and you learn quickly if they did they really care this whole time or not? Because when you stop reaching out and it gets quiet, then you know. Um but geez, it doesn't make it easy though. It it stings, it hurts. It does. I mean, life is more peaceful now, life is more calmer, yeah. But your heart aches for those. I just hope that they find peace, that they find themselves on a healthy journey, and one day we all meet again.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Well, one of the one of the biggest things with some of the people that we know that we've been navigating here lately with you know friends, family, co-workers, you know, just hearing just being in line at you know, Walmart, hearing somebody, you know, people you know talk around yourself. There's a lot of foolish pride in people nowadays, a lot of puffed chest, a lot of look at me, a lot of huh.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

But with that comes so much negativity. Yeah, and and like they're downing people all around them to make them feel better.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Absolutely, and that and that's so hard, and that's becoming more and more prevalent that we've seen, and that's what causes a lot of problems because with a lot of the rel with a lot of the issues that we've been navigating here late recently, lately, last bit of time, it's that pride, that veinful pridefulness that makes people blind to taking any kind of accountability for anything. Yeah, anybody is capable of change at any given time for anything. But, and this is a big but and this is one that is warranted, to be able to instill a change, you have to recognize that there is a problem and an issue. Yeah, until until you recognize that you are not capable, no, it is physically impossible for somebody to change. Because how are they going to change what they perceive to not there, not if there's no problem? Anyone can change, but you have to know that there's a problem first, and that's the hard part for a lot of people, and that's where this prideful arrogance comes into it because they don't think they're doing anything wrong. It's the proverbial quote unquote victim mentality, victim card. If if I'm not if I'm not doing anything wrong, you wronged me, you did it to me, I didn't do anything, I don't need to change. You're the one that messed it up, you're the one that did it. That's where it becomes tricky to navigate, and that's where that's where it is very crucial until it becomes a pattern behavior, until it becomes a repetitious pattern, it's very crucial to you know at least a time or two go to that person and find out, hey, what's what's going on? Let's let's talk, let's figure out what's going on here, let's let's try to fix this, work it out, and whatever. But like I said, when it becomes a pattern behavior over and over and over and over again, it's it's okay to distance and separate for a while, at least for a while, until you start seeing something change in the in other people. Now, the opposite side of that, if that's the case, and you need to separate, you need to pray for those people very, very hard.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

Pray, you know, pray the Lord's will, pray his peace, praise, pray for his grace on them. Because on some of that, too, there could also be issues at play that we know nothing about. Something they're going through, something like whatever, and right now they're just going through something and they're blinded, don't see, whatever. And sometimes it may take that little bit of the separation for a little bit of time for them to be like, hey, what you know, for them to come back and be like, what's going on? What's happening? Yeah, talk to them, address it, and then maybe that can be the thing to start healing and repairing the relationship. Yeah, that could be what it takes. So sometimes separate separation doesn't mean indefinite, it doesn't mean for good. It's just a peer, it could just mean a period until everybody gets to where they need to be to be able to start repairing the relationships and start repairing the relationship and the groundwork and stuff to get to make it better, to make it where it needs to be.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Yeah. And you have more scriptures to um like help in this matter.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Yeah, uh in the book of Proverbs 17, it talks a lot about you know, people who are downtrodden and sad, and in some of it around around 22, I believe, it talks about a happy heart is good medicine, and a joyful mind causes healing. Um, Isaiah 41, 10 says, Fear not, for I am with you, be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. If you get to that point where you have to feel like your need to pull away, pull back, separate, you know, cause that, don't let that start affecting you and your mindset to where you start destroying yourself and ask, you know, beating yourself up and why why it's this way, why couldn't I fix it? Why couldn't I don't don't get to that point? Sometimes, like we said, like we saw earlier, sometimes the Lord will remove will rem make things happen and allow things to happen to remove people from your life that's not good for you. Yeah, something and sometimes it will trust in him, stick with him, and he will give you strength, confidence, and he will make the situation okay. Even if it is a permanent separation, he will give you the strength and the knowledge to know, hey, everything's gonna be okay. If it's a temporary one, he will move, do his will, do what he needs to do to realign it to where it will come back and it will get better. He the Lord knows what he's doing.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

He does. He does.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Uh uh a fellow we saw we saw a quote the other day that was that fit into this very, very, very tried and true in this. A fellow by the name of Max Doreto said, God never said the journey would be easy, but he did say the arrival would be worthwhile. That's not just for this, that's for any aspect, anything you're going through. Yeah, he knows what he's doing. You just need to trust, lean on him, give it to him. It's okay in situations like this, or any situation in your life, it's okay. Like, like if situations arise to where you feel like you need to separate or whatever, it's okay to be angry, it's okay to be afraid, it's okay to feel, you know, anxious and things like that. We're we're humans, we're gonna have emotions. I've heard many Christians say, oh, it's a sin to be afraid, or it's a sin to get angry. No, it's not a sin to have those emotions. What you do when you have those determines whether or not you're committing a sin or not. It's okay to be angry, afraid, all these things. But the first thing you need to do when you get to those situations is you need to pray. Yes, that's the first thing. Anything you do outside of that or seeking the Lord's face, or even getting in the word to try to find figure out why or this, that you're starting to borderline about committing a sin because you're taking out of God's hands. Yeah, you need to trust, give it to him, and by doing so, it makes our part in it a whole lot easier. We're gonna get emotional, we're gonna have feelings, we're gonna have emotions, we're gonna go through all the things. Yeah, but just leave it to him, give it to him, trust that he knows what he's doing, and let him let him work. Yeah, relationships with people. They may do something that may, you know, like I said, repetitive thing, you need to separate. Your thing should be God be with them, guide them, help them, give them wisdom, give them peace, let them know they're loved. Pray blessings on them. Don't pray about them because then you're causing issues for yourself. You can't say, well, God change them because you know how they are, because that's not that's that's not helpful. That's not you're now at that point you're starting to hinder yourself.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

Pray blessings on them, uplift them. God be with them, God's your will in their life.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

I mean, that's you know, um, yeah, because don't give it to God and don't put it back, don't pick it back up. Let let him do his work. It says in Romans, God taught in Romans 12, he God pretty much, well, God pretty much has vengeance as mine. He will repay, he will do what he needs to do. God will work the way he needs to work. If you're around people that you are mourning that are still alive, God be with them, be with me as I'm around them because you know it's gonna hurt. Help us, protect us, be with us. You know how you you know how you know what's gonna happen, so we ask you for protection, guide us, lead us, guide our feet, guide our words, peace of mind, pray blessings for them, pray blessings for yourself, yeah. Um it gets to be very difficult in a gray area when you still have to have you still have to be around these people, yeah. Uh friends, family, anybody, anybody that you that you're in this position with. It gets to be difficult, it gets to be it's it starts to affect feelings quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

It does.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

It really does. And and the feelings is where people fall into trouble. Uh they do a lot of things with their with out out of feeling, how they're you know, with you know, they're angry, they're sad, they're whatever. They they like to react out of those quite a bit.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Um we've done it, I've done it. I mean, everybody's done it, you get it. You get into it with somebody, you know, you say things, you do things, you just go back to them and apologize, say, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

Um and you change the behavior.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Yes. You change the behavior, you change the atmosphere, you change things so that that doesn't happen again, and that doesn't if it becomes a habitual thing and it's negative and it's not godly, why are you doing it? Why are you constantly in that rotation? Stop it, change it, change the behavior, change the mindset. Why are you thinking that way? What is causing that? Stop it, fix it.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

Um there's been so much here lately that it's just all walks of life can just be different, and that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

I am I it's not my job to point out to anybody their sin. That's between them and God. Um but when you go to people to hold yourself first, and most importantly, yourself, hold yourself accountable for your own actions, for your wrongdoings, and open the floor and be prepared for people to talk negatively about you to you, but you need that sometimes, you need to hear the change that needs to be made. Um, it's just hard when you open a floor like that up, and they just it's constantly like uh, well, you were here at this place at this time, so you know what you did, and it's like I had a conversation and I I don't remember it. Tell me, and they won't give you specifics, it's just they blame you for them cutting you out. It's it's really weird. I'm not that's the part that hurts is being blamed for stuff you have no idea what they're just talking about, but you know it's there and it's in the air, especially um their friends who used to be an acquaintance of yours too, no longer talks to you, will avoid you. It's just really weird. Um, but we've navigated through all this in life, and there's been certain aspects where it was like a defining moment where you've just started to weed people out. Um, there was an instance, I'm not gonna name names, and this one's this one's gonna be really hard, but there was a get together of some kind, and somebody looked my child dead in the face while I was there and was like, I seen you break it. I know it was you, I watched you do it. I was prepared to discipline my child based on those words. I seen it with my own eyes, I watched you do it. Till another child popped up and said, No, you didn't, because I broke it. That speaks volumes. That that that does speak volumes. Um, why attack a child? I mean, I think I think my son Lucas was what between eight and ten at that time. He was just a baby. Um, he's never been perfect. Like I we've heard rumors in the tales that he's the golden child, he's untouchable, and that that's far from the truth. Um I don't think I've ever looked at somebody the same since there was another instance where we were told, you know, um there was going to be a sleepover. And we were told to our face that they had to have their husband get onto Lucas because he wouldn't listen. And I thought that was just kind of odd. I mean, sometimes you do got to get a child's attention because he do be child in the kids. Yeah, they're back then. Yeah, they're they're kids, and the words well, he had to be mean to him to get him to listen.

unknown 31:50

No, no.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

Um, I I don't think I've ever been mean to anybody's children. And there have been some challenging children in my atmosphere, um, but usually it comes along with some form of ADHD. Some there's something that accredits to their behavior, and while it may be challenging, I've never been mean. Um, but through all that, I say this. It was still hard to see, it was still hard to just set the boundary and be done because that's not how I grew up. I didn't grow up with you cutting people out that are just negative. It was always, well, that's who they are. That's who that so-and-so is, or that's who it's just how they are. You just overlook it. That's just how they are. Um, that's not right, that's not normal. And no, don't overlook that.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

No.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

Um, you have to stand up, even if it's to your closest people in your circle, you have to stand up. I regret not standing up for my child sooner because he was a child. Um these are the people that you know are bad for you. You know they're toxic. You know they're toxic and bad in their own circle, and that they need to get help. But you can't make these people see it, you can't make them get the help because they're a victim and you're the villain. And sometimes I am the villain in somebody's story, and I accept that and I'll take accountability.

SPEAKER_03 34:01

But these words from these people live rent-free in my head and in my heart, and I pray for them.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

I pray for them, I love them. I pray blessings for them. Um, not the old school thing of, you know, like if you were trying to get somebody saved, you prayed that they were so miserable that they had no choice but to turn to God. That is a curse. That is a curse. You don't don't do that. You pray, you pray blessings on them. God bless them, God guide them. God let your words come out of their mouth. You speak truth and life into them, and eventually they'll turn to God and accept all the prayers you've built up for them. Doesn't mean we don't fall short sometimes, doesn't mean we don't get a little angry at times and say things that we shouldn't, but we're just human and we ask for forgiveness and you move on, dust yourself off because it does, it does get hard, but it is so worth it. Those boundaries become like hugs when you are forced to interact with these people or to be with them for a moment. When you're you leave the situation because it gets too bad, or the the party, or they get together, and you're like, you know what, I'm I'm done, I'm I'm out. That boundary that you've set up becomes really nice and fulfilling, and you're so grateful, and you still pray, you pray for them because one day you would like to all be together in a happy, healthy situation. Um, but I think this is the hardest part we've we're navigating is these healthy boundaries that are in place, then you still have to interact sometimes. It just makes me so sad.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

Yeah, and and the thing is, once you so set those healthy boundaries, and you you know you pray for and stuff, and you know, you you're you know trying to do it right by you and stuff, that this is where it goes it goes back to what we said earlier about the feeling thing. It gets to the point to where you pray for them, God help them, help me, help us. Yeah, and there's that separation a little bit apart for the for the boundary part of it, you know, what's best for you and your family kind of thing. And then when you're around them, if the tendencies and habits are still there, it will attack your feelings first thing right off. It'll make you feel a certain way that you need to pray, like to get yourself right first, because you will get to a point where you will get so a lot of a lot of times in situations like that that I have found, at least for myself, the biggest one that that's more pro prominent than anything is you get angry, you get mad, you get upset. You do it's irrational too.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

Yeah, it's it's irrational, like there's just something there that makes you just be like nothing happened, nothing was said, just being in the presence of people can just bring irrational anger out of you, which we know that that's spirit, right? Absolutely, and we believe that these people are severely oppressed, and that's where, like I said, it's bad, it's so sad, yes, and that's where I said earlier, you need to pray for them and not about them.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

But when you're in that position, you need to pray for yourself first, you need to get yourself right in the head with God, God help me, calm me down before you can pray for them. Because if you don't at that point, you'll be hindering yourself because you will be praying about them and things that they're doing, and thing you'll you know, you'll pretty much be talking to God about them and gossiping to God about them, and you can't do that. You need to get back into your right head space and back to calm yourself back to where you need to be before you can pray for that person. Yeah, that was a situation not too long ago with us, just around, you know, um, you know, God help me, help me, calm me down, get me back, take the minute, and then you pray for them. Yeah, that's what you need to do. It's it's it's not right by any means. It it's it's it's a vicious, vicious cycle at times. It's a vicious circle, but that that's where you need the healthy boundaries, that's where you need to put those up to keep yourself where you need to be, and where you need to keep in a right headspace to pray for them as well. Because if you if if you're not, you're not gonna do them justice by praying for them. No, you're not gonna do yourself justice by praying for yourself. So you you know, you need to keep yourself calm, collected, and get where you need to be with God first. That's the most important thing is getting yourself right first. Even if you're so much at a point where you don't feel like you need to pray for them at that moment because you're just so angry, that's fine. But you need to pray for yourself and get that squared away with God. You need to get that back under control because then, if not, that's gonna be that little splinter that's gonna start weeding in and start affecting you in multiple different ways down the road. It's like a little spot that's just grow, it's like throwing one little throwing one little weed in the garden. Yeah, you don't pluck it out and take care of it, it's gonna snuff your garden. Same same thing with your mindset, same thing with your spiritual walk, same thing with everything like that. You let something go and not take care of it, it will it'll eventually grow and overtake you, and then your mind's gonna change, your attitude's gonna change, everything about you is gonna change from that one little instance where you could have just been like, God help me, take it from me, put me where you need me to be, let me listen, let me hear your voice. You need to take care of it when you get there. Don't let it grow, don't let it fester. And that's one thing we've come to realize in the past many months, year roughly now, that we were almost at that point. That's what we've been taking, that's what we've been trying to do and rectify here recently, the last several months is trying to trying to pick the weeds out of the garden.

SPEAKER_00 41:01

So to a quick recap to wrap things up, what is the number one thing we should do?

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Pray. Prayer is the basis for everything you should be doing in your life.

SPEAKER_00 41:22

Pray for yourself and pray for others. It is okay for you to pray for yourself. You know you better than anybody, so pray for yourself.

SPEAKER_01 41:34

Okay, we in all us in all aspects of your life. It it's okay to pray to pray the Lord's blessings on you and and and others. That's okay.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

And we're still navigating through these um issues, it's still fresh, it's still difficult at times like yesterday was a hard day. It was the first time we've ever not gotten together.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

Um it it there was mixed emotions yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

A lot of mixed emotions. Um, I knew like my parents couldn't really do anything. My mother's recovering from uh rotator cuff surgery, so she's only got one hand. And yeah, we're not we're not gonna go into that, but yeah, it's hard. We navigate through this very difficult life trying to do what's right, and if it's a tough decision, it's usually probably right. Yeah. Um, because all the right decisions have been very hard decisions. Yeah. But we're just here to let you know there's hope, you can do it. It's positive, speaking life to you and to them, speaking life and blessings, and never cursing anyone because it doesn't hit them, it hits you. And just remember that vengeance is the Lord's. So where can they find us?

SPEAKER_01 43:50

Well, they can find us on Facebook, but still walking. Um we upload this to YouTube but still walking. Um, or you can send us an email at stillwalking2026 at gmail. Um, or go on the Facebook page, you can directly message us, you know, any place you have your box podcast, you can find us.

SPEAKER_00 44:17

Yeah, we're wherever you get your podcasts, we're everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. So there's options, people. There's options. There's options. Is there anything you would like to say before we go?

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Don't let these vicissitudes of life beat you down. Faith, trust in the Lord, and He's got you. He'll uphold you with His righteous right hand. Still walk, don't give up. Yeah. And if nobody else ever tells you, we got your back.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

We do. We would love to pray for you. Amen. So just send us a message. Yeah. And we we take prayer requests. We will pray for you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:07

And yeah. So we'll see you in the next episode. Love you bye.

unknown 45:17

Bye.