WEBVTT 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.960 Hey, I'm Steve Holt, the Senior Pastor of the Road at Chapel Hills. 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:12.480 This is the Road Podcast. 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:13.759 Thanks for joining us. 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:17.120 My heart is to empower you to change the world. 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.920 I hope this message impacted you. 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:26.559 I want to go back to Ephesians 4. 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:38.399 We're going through the book of Ephesians, and I'm going to give you a quick synopsis since we missed a week, and that is that the first three chapters of the book of Ephesians in your Bible are what we would call positional truths. 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:42.880 Positional truths or theological truths or doctrinal truths. 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:49.200 It's about our position in Christ in the heavenly realm, in the fourth dimension. 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:54.640 But then there's also practical truths, and that's the last three chapters, four, five, and six. 00:00:54.799 --> 00:01:01.600 And so we're talking very practically about how to walk in the power of the Holy Spirit. 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:09.920 And the illustration I gave, and I'll just rehearse it again, is that there's a story told, probably not true, but it might have been true. 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:11.120 I mean it could be true. 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:18.000 That an eagle fell out of a nest into a flock of turkeys and grew up as a turkey, even though it was an eagle. 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:30.000 And that little eagle would look up in the sky and see these beautiful eagles and wish he could soar like the eagles, but he's just pecking on the ground with a bunch of turkeys. 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:33.200 And the reality, though, is he's not a turkey. 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:35.120 He's an eagle. 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:40.480 And when you were born again, when you gave your life to Christ, you became a new creation in Christ. 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:42.560 You were giving a new mind. 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.120 You were given a new heart. 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:47.359 You were given a new spirit. 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:51.200 You're under a new covenant, Jesus said. 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:53.680 You are an eagle. 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:56.159 You're not a turkey. 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:58.959 But you've been raised to be a turkey. 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:00.640 Even in the church, you've been raised. 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:03.680 I say there's two problems that keep us in turkeyism. 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:07.439 The first one is the church. 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:13.280 The evangelical church is more concerned with filling the pews with turkeys than building eagles that sore. 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:15.520 And that's not true here. 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:17.280 We're going to build eagles that sore. 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:19.360 And the way we do that is we equip the saints. 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:20.479 We do empower you. 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.039 We do wholehearted dance. 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:25.120 We have supper shine for women. 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.520 We have wholehearted men on Tuesday mornings for the men. 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:31.120 We're trying to equip, equip, equip, empower, empower, empower. 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:32.960 So the first problem is the church doesn't do it. 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:33.680 We do it here. 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:35.120 Second problem is you. 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:36.719 You're the problem. 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:39.759 You're basically lazy. 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.800 I'm basically lazy. 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:54.080 I was telling Leo today, we're having breakfast together between services, and I said, it's starting to, there's some movement southward. 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:56.080 Okay? 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:58.639 And I mean, I weigh the same. 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.520 But there's a shift happening. 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:03.439 There's a migration. 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:09.120 There is a migration of illegal immigrants moving into this area. 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:10.719 And I don't like it. 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:11.520 You know? 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:12.879 But I'm lazy. 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:13.360 Okay? 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:14.080 I'm lazy. 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:16.639 I eat stuff put in front of me and I eat it. 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:19.919 And it's like we had that dinner last night, and oh my goodness. 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.680 Matt Wilcoxon put it together. 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:25.199 And Melody Baker. 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:31.039 You get Matt Wilcox and Melody Baker working together, and I'm telling you what, you'll be stuffed. 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:38.560 And so the way we did it, which was what I think was genius, because our house can't hold 50 people sitting down. 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:48.400 So we're standing up, and then Matt, working through Melody, working through all the waiters and waitresses that helped us, were giving us cups of incredible, it was all gourmet. 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:54.000 Gourmet salad in a cup, gourmet a pulled pork in a cup, and all this stuff. 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:55.680 And I'm just chowing, man. 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:59.680 And I wake up this morning and I'm like, I shouldn't have done that. 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.240 But I'm lazy, right? 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:04.240 So you tend to be lazy. 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.400 You tend to want to just go with the flow. 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.280 And what worked before is not working now. 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:16.319 I mean, I get, there was a time in my life eat anything I want, do anything I want, and I look, you know, I look half decent. 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:20.480 I mean, I've never like arm them or something, but I mean, even though that's my middle name. 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:23.120 But no, I, you know, you know what I mean. 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:25.680 Everybody that's over 40, you know, go like this. 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.160 If it hasn't happened, wait till you're 50, it will. 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:29.839 At 60, it definitely happens. 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.560 But there's anyways of migration south. 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:37.279 And so we have to now renew our mind in a different way. 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:39.199 It's not as easy as it was. 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:59.519 And I think with the advent of pornography and the advent of great restaurants and the advent of the ability to text, I mean, you know, that struggle is real, and if you don't stay on the cutting edge of a disciplined mind, you'll find yourself in trouble. 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:04.000 And you'll find yourself being a turkey when God made you an eagle. 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.399 And so and so you can break out of that. 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:09.120 And that's what Paul's trying to emphasize to us today. 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:16.879 So turn to Ephesians chapter 4, and I'm going to call this don't be deceived, you're a new person, part two. 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:22.160 Don't be deceived, you're a new person, part two, because part one was a couple weeks ago. 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:23.360 It's seven steps. 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:32.399 I see seven steps in these verses, 25 to 32, where Paul gives us seven steps to soaring like an eagle. 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.800 Seven steps to the new you, the new person, the new creation that you already are. 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:42.160 So I'm just telling you how to act like an eagle, even though sometimes you hang out with turkeys. 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.800 And uh, you guys that come to wholehearted men, you know, you got a table full of turkeys. 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:47.680 You do. 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:48.560 You know? 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:52.399 But all of us at those tables are trying to become eagles because we already are one. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.360 And so if we don't encourage each other, we won't make it. 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:57.279 So that's why we do what we do. 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:04.959 That's why we have tables on Tuesday morning, is so that we can all, who are actually eagles, can break out of being a turkey. 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:06.079 So here's what he says. 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:07.199 Look at verse 25. 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:16.879 He says this therefore, putting away lying, let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor, for we are members of one another. 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:20.720 So step one is tell the truth. 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:23.040 Always tell the truth. 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:28.800 I mean, it's amazing what can happen in your life if you learn to always tell the truth. 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:31.519 Remember that movie, Liar Liar? 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:38.639 Okay, maybe not everything, but you know, he just tells that what he's thinking, oh, but that's a comedy. 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:50.720 But I mean, the reality is this is that, you know, I like what Mother Teresa says, if you want to be successful at everything in your life, learn every day to pray for one hour and always tell the truth. 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.680 Pray for one hour, always tell the truth. 00:06:54.000 --> 00:07:03.040 And there's something powerful of trust between a husband and wife if you're married, where you just know the person's always telling you the truth. 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:09.439 Now they may say it like this: I said, honey, that I was gonna do this, but I forgot to do it. 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:10.399 Let's tell the truth. 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:11.519 Okay, you forgot to do it. 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:12.720 Say you're sorry. 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:14.959 Don't say I never heard you. 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.000 I mean, I my grandparents were great people, okay? 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:20.399 My granddaddy was a rancher in South Carolina. 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:23.600 My grandmother was always working with him, she always did the books. 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:28.560 And I knew them, I mean, what I remember of them was in their they were 60 and above. 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:30.399 So I knew them later in life. 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.600 Granddaddy's slowing down, grandmother's slowing down. 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:38.639 But I remember in the kitchen, I'd hear them start just picking at each other. 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:43.040 And then grandma always say, Well, I just didn't hear you. 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:45.279 I just didn't hear. 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:47.759 I was always relying with, just didn't hear you. 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:53.839 I was at the meeting, you know, in the kitchen the day before, and they're practically shouting at each other. 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:56.480 So she was lying, okay? 00:07:56.720 --> 00:07:58.319 So she was a good liar. 00:07:58.480 --> 00:07:59.680 And some of you do that. 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:00.720 I didn't hear you. 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:01.600 You heard them. 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:03.680 Own it, man. 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:08.000 So steps to soaring like an eagle is become a truth teller. 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:13.759 Now you don't have to tell the truth to everybody that you don't trust, but I'm talking about people you trust, be a truth teller. 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:15.439 Other people just shut off. 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:17.600 Just don't say anything. 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.160 And so, you know, you hear what I'm saying? 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:21.360 Y'all understand what I'm saying? 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:27.360 I'm just saying that learning to regularly tell the truth first to yourself. 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.759 Just say right now to yourself, I'm up to no good. 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:36.080 You are. 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:37.840 Without Christ. 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:43.840 I'm up to being an eagle, say that. 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:46.159 With Christ. 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:47.279 You gotta say that. 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:48.320 You gotta remember that. 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:49.279 It's a good thing. 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:50.799 So start off by telling the truth. 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.759 Paul's saying that is so important. 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:55.679 Number 20, verse 26. 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:56.879 Be angry. 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:01.759 Can you imagine the Bible says, be angry and do not sin. 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:04.639 Do not let the sun go down in your wrath. 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:10.159 So anger is not a bad thing if it's against things like injustice and unrighteousness. 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:12.159 Sometimes you have to get angry with your kids. 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.279 If they're running out into the street, you're gonna get hit by a car. 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:20.639 You know, sometimes you finally have to draw the line and say you're gonna get a spanking for doing that. 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.720 You know, like I have a child that, beautiful child. 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.399 Almost does everything that anybody could ask, even more. 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:32.639 But she got in a habit of writing on the walls all over the house. 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:35.759 Boy, writing on the wall. 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:37.759 I said, don't do that. 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:39.120 And don't do that. 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:40.879 And finally said, you're gonna get a spank. 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.679 So I gave her a little spank, a little slot on the bottom. 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.320 Okay, and she quit writing on the wall. 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:57.039 Okay, and I wasn't angry about it, but but there is anger that's that is in a good place, but most of the time, anger is misplaced, right? 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:02.159 Most of the time we get angry for the wrong things, and he's saying, confess it. 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.080 Confess your anger. 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:15.039 You're all gonna get angry, you're all gonna make that mistake, and in the process of that, that the part that we miss so much, especially among men, in my opinion, is we don't confess it. 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:16.559 We don't say we're sorry. 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:21.919 If you don't get in a habit of saying you're sorry a lot, you're not gonna grow. 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.279 You're not gonna grow into the ego God called you to be. 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:32.639 There's something inside our conscience and our heart when we regularly say we're sorry, that we get sick of saying we're sorry. 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:36.159 And so we actually stop doing the behavior that we're sorry for. 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:42.399 I get tired of saying I'm sorry about certain things, so I finally change. 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:50.320 But if you're not saying you're sorry and you're sweeping out under the carpet and you're hiding it, well, you're not gonna change. 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.080 And so, it's amazing with anger. 00:10:54.240 --> 00:11:01.120 You can do a hundred times, you can be a gentle, kind person, and if you burst out in anger once, that's what everybody remembers. 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:01.919 Right? 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.000 It's really bad with pastors. 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:07.279 When I was at Mountain Springs, it was bad. 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:09.840 I'd get all upset about things. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.399 And man, I am so like over that now. 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:17.840 That doesn't mean you guys can mess up back there, but I'm just saying that, you know. 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:26.000 I mean, yeah, because everybody, I my mindset has been everybody's working hard, everybody's doing the best they can, and we're all gonna make mistakes. 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:39.919 It's just that sometimes the mistakes are things that you guys see, and I think it's a distraction, but we're gonna figure it out with kindness, not with anger and pushiness and act like I'm a big CEO or something. 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:42.399 I'm a shepherd, I'm not a CEO. 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.960 And as a shepherd, we love our sheep. 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.159 We work with our sheep. 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.480 We all make it's okay to make mistakes. 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:51.759 And as we make mistakes, though, anger does not help. 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.639 So confess your anger. 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:55.919 Verse 27. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:58.960 Oh, this is a biggie, one of the shortest verses in the Bible. 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:04.639 Circle it, underline it, highlight it, star it, check it, whatever you need to do. 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:09.279 Verse 27, nor give place to the devil. 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:12.080 Okay, the devil's real, guys. 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:16.399 The devil is out there to steal, kill, and destroy. 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:17.840 Take you out. 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.399 Steal your heart, kill your future. 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:23.759 That's what he does. 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:25.840 That's the only thing he does. 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:30.080 That's all that the devil knows how to do is steal, kill, and destroy. 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:41.360 And the way he does that, this word, place, give no place, is the same word we have for stirrup on a saddle, on a horse. 00:12:42.399 --> 00:13:01.120 He's saying that if you don't confess your anger, if you walk in the sins of the flesh, there's a point where the devil, and I don't think it's the devil himself, but I think it's generic, meaning demons, demons and the devil, because they're all in there kind of part of his army, they'll get a foothold in your life. 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:03.600 They'll get a stronghold in your life. 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:04.240 Okay? 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:20.320 So the word, we have a disservice because of one of the translations of the King James Version, which is in the 17th century, that was probably a good word then in the English language, was possession, be possessed by the devil, be possessed by a demon. 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:21.679 Daimonosomai. 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:27.519 Daimonosomi in the Greek does not mean ownership. 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.039 If someone possesses my car, they own it. 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:34.480 I don't believe the devil can own you as a believer. 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:38.559 I don't actually, very rarely does he own even an unbeliever. 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:42.159 The reason I believe that is because we're all up to no good on our own so well. 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.960 But the reality is, is that he can, here's what the word means. 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:50.720 Daimonosomi in the Greek means influence. 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.600 The devil can influence you. 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:57.440 And I use the word around here, demonization, not possession. 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:00.240 Not demon possession, demonization. 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.360 Demonization means that the devil can influence you. 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:14.799 And the devil's not going to influence you, capital D devil, because none of us are powerful enough that he would deal with us, but he sends demons our way. 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.039 A third of the angels of heaven fell with him. 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:18.720 The demons are out, this is the demons. 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:20.080 So listen to what I'm going to say. 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:25.120 Here's my hand represents the deeds of the flesh, your flesh. 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:30.639 Let's say it's anger, gossip, envy, strife, lust. 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:33.679 And we all struggle from time to time with all of us. 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:40.240 But when you confess to the Lord, Lord, I confess that I was angry, there's no power. 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:43.840 You've ripped the power away from that anger. 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.159 You surrender that to the Lord. 00:14:46.320 --> 00:15:00.559 But if you continue to allow sins of the flesh to be manifested in your life, you're gossiping all the time, or you're going to that porn website all the time, and you're allowing that, there's corresponding demons, you guys. 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:05.200 There's demons of lying, there's demons of lust, there's demons of gossip. 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:13.279 And if you continue, I don't care if you're a believer or not, because I'm not talking about your salvation, I'm talking about your sanctification. 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:15.919 And I can explain that in a second. 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.840 There is a corresponding demon that could come in and lock in. 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:23.279 That's why we get into alcoholism. 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:24.960 That's how we get into drug addiction. 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:26.879 That's how we get into porn addiction. 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:33.519 And I would say we don't, we, we we kind of we kind of have really bad sins, and then we have nice sins. 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:36.320 So the nice sins are gossip. 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:37.919 Oh well, just gossip, you know. 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:39.120 That's a nice sin. 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:42.960 But if you go and have an affair with somebody, that's a bad sin. 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:44.720 And by the way, that is a bad sin. 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:46.159 And that is worse than gossip. 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.240 But there's reasons for that too. 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:51.919 But the reality is there's really not nice sins. 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:52.639 Okay? 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:56.000 So some of you women, all the women look at me. 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:01.519 One of the struggles you have is you talk too much. 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:04.480 You gossip. 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:06.720 Now I'm not saying every woman gossips. 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:07.600 I'm not saying that. 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.320 Don't walk out right now, you can walk out later. 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:11.840 Let me finish this. 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:14.480 By the way, I'm used to people walking out. 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:15.679 People walk out every week. 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:16.720 It's okay with me. 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:18.240 I don't even think about it. 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.399 Because if you don't want to grow, then don't come here. 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:24.639 But, you know, so so women tend to gossip a little bit. 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.720 You don't just have guys on the phone going, did you hear what Joe did? 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:29.600 Oh much. 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:31.840 Okay, we don't struggle with that as much, okay? 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:32.960 You guys do. 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:33.440 Okay? 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:35.200 So you gotta confess that. 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:39.279 Or you could have a demon come in and make you addicted to that kind of stuff. 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:41.440 I've known some women like that. 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.720 And it's like, they need some help, man. 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:47.360 Okay, cast that sucker out, you know? 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:50.879 But but then, guys, our struggle is lust. 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:52.639 We battle with lust. 00:16:52.799 --> 00:17:02.639 And so if you keep, if you keep going back to the porn site, man, there could be a point where a demon comes in, locks in, and you get a major league addiction to that. 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:04.000 You hear what I'm saying? 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:04.640 Okay? 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:16.720 So here's the way it works is that when a demonic spirit comes in, they can start getting a foothold because you're not confessing that area. 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:18.960 Now, two choices. 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:26.799 One is a power encounter to get that demon out, and that's where you actually drive it out, and I've driven out hundreds of demons. 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.440 Or there is a truth encounter. 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:31.279 Now let me explain the difference. 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.160 So a power encounter, you cast a demon out. 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:37.200 A truth encounter, you crowd the demon out. 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:38.720 Write that down. 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:42.079 A power encounter is you cast the demon out. 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.279 A truth encounter, you crowd the demon out. 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:53.200 So the best way I can explain it is that when we moved to our house 22 years ago in Black Forest, it was infested with mice. 00:17:53.759 --> 00:18:02.720 And so if we used mouse traps, that's the casting out of the demon, mouse traps and fumigation, and we tried everything. 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:03.359 Okay. 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:19.440 Or we could find out what the demons are feeding on, and we could start cleaning the house and start crowding them out with good things that they don't want, and they leave. 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:21.359 So here's why I say that. 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:29.359 So from time to time, I'll come off the stage, I'll be dating, or we'll do a conference, or I'll be at a conference like I was last weekend, and this happened in one case. 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:31.519 I was in the middle of a seminar. 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:34.720 The seminar was, what was it called? 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:37.839 It's called How to Become a Wholehearted Warrior. 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:38.880 It was a men's conference. 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:44.559 And so I'm doing this seminar with about 50 guys, and this guy keeps going like this while I'm talking. 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:49.119 I think, okay, he's got some kind of mental or physical problems. 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:49.839 That's what I thought. 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:51.200 I didn't think about demons or anything. 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:52.160 I just kept teaching. 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:54.799 And then he just raised his hand in the middle of talking. 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:55.759 I said, What? 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.319 And he goes, I've got demons. 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:04.799 And then he starts changing, his voice changes and everything, and I'm like, oh, this is gonna be great. 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:08.400 Okay, I'll never get invited to this place again. 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:13.599 So I'm with a bunch of conservative evangelicals, probably never seen anything like this happen before. 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:15.599 It's happening right there in the seat. 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.759 And then I go, um, okay, I'm looking at you. 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:22.480 I hear that it seems like you have a demon right now. 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.440 And he's like, I do, I do, you know, all this stuff. 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:30.079 And I said, Well, I command you in the name of Jesus to shut it down. 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:31.680 I don't want to hear from you anymore. 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:33.119 I'm in charge here. 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.599 This is my seminar, so shut up. 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:36.960 So the guy just shuts up. 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:38.400 I said, quit shaking like that. 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:39.599 Quit shaking him around. 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:40.960 So he quit shaking. 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.079 And I said, now look at me. 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:45.119 What's your name? 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:47.920 Gave me his name, not the demon, but the guy gave me his name. 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.400 His name was, I don't know, Ralph Hilary or something. 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:51.759 I always think Ralph, yeah, Ralph. 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:53.359 Ted. 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:53.759 Okay. 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:54.640 Ted. 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:58.079 I said, Ted, you can cast that demon out. 00:19:58.160 --> 00:19:59.519 I'm not going to cast that demon out of you. 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:01.680 You need to cast the demon out because you let him in. 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:05.920 And I said, so here's the first thing you do is hang with me in the seminar. 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.880 Because in the seminar, we're going to crowd out the demon with truth. 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:13.440 And it's going to take you, for as long as you've had that demon, sometimes it takes that long to get it out. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:15.519 Because here's the deal, guys. 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:20.559 You can cast out a demon of lust out of someone, and then they're happy. 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:22.400 Oh, it's I'm free. 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:23.440 I'm free. 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:27.440 But they don't have any new habit patterns and disciplines developed in their life. 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:34.400 In three days they're back to the porn website and scriptures, Jesus said he'll bring back seven more stronger than the first one. 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:42.480 So I would rather disciple a person into freedom than cast their demons out into freedom. 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:46.319 Now there's a place for casting demons out. 00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:52.559 Jesus did his demon casting out, his exorcisms when he was passing through villages. 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.279 When that was the only shot he was going to have, he did it. 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.559 But does he cast out any demons and his disciples? 00:20:58.960 --> 00:20:59.279 No. 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:02.240 Because what he's doing is he's crowding them out. 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:05.200 And I think Peter was probably packing a few growlers. 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:08.559 I mean, the guy brushed his teeth with shoe polish. 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.440 He always had his foot in his mouth, right? 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.880 And so he probably had a few growlers that he was packing around. 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.680 And some of you in this room are packing some growlers. 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:19.039 You sir. 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.319 It's part of this world we live in. 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:23.599 You can be set free. 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:31.599 And the best way you can be set free is not getting someone to cast out your demons, but crowding them out with truth. 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:37.920 Where you start saying, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna look at porn anymore. 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:42.240 And I'm gonna have some blood-stained allies that are gonna help me guide me through that. 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.079 Or I'm gonna quit gossiping. 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.119 I'm gonna have some women in my life that are gonna help me grow in it. 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:48.480 That's how you crowd them out. 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.519 They don't hang out in clean houses. 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.359 Mice don't hang out in clean houses for the most part. 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:59.599 And these demons don't hang out with a believer who's passionate for. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:02.400 Lord and they're fired up and they're going for it. 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:04.960 So don't give place to the devil. 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:06.720 Everybody look at me and say bad idea. 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:08.160 Say bad idea. 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:11.359 Give a place to the devil. 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:12.720 It's dumb. 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:14.400 It's dumb. 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:15.920 Be smart. 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:17.599 Be an eagle. 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:19.440 Verse 28. 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.319 Let him who steals steal no longer. 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:24.240 But rather let him labor. 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:26.480 Working with his hands. 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:27.759 What is good? 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:30.480 That he may have something to give to those who have need. 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:34.559 Now, some of you lost jobs because you chose not to do the vaccination or something like that. 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:35.359 You've lost your job. 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:36.799 God's got a job for you. 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:38.559 Don't worry about it. 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:40.240 You just, but you gotta work. 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:41.119 Work with your hands. 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.160 It may not be your dream job, but get in there and work. 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:45.839 Get a job. 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:49.599 Maybe you have to go to Walmart or someplace like that and be a greener. 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:50.880 I mean, I don't know. 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:52.400 That's okay. 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:57.440 There's something powerful about just working, even if it's not the perfect job. 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:04.960 I remember my son Daniel, he came back from college and he couldn't get work, and he graduated from college, had two degrees. 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:09.759 But he knew how to chainsaw because he's been chainsawing with me all these years. 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:10.960 And so he knew how to chainsaw. 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:11.839 He knew how to build stuff. 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:15.279 So he started building chicken coops and chainsawing trees for people. 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.720 Not exactly your dream future job, right? 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:20.000 But he did it. 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:21.599 And he just did it and he did it. 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:31.200 And someone noticed his work ethic and invited him in to becoming a financial advisor, and now he's just hugely successful. 00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:41.039 But something happened, I think, in his heart by working hard that opened doors that someone noticed that he was working hard, and then God opened those doors. 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:48.000 So don't just sit around and be all upset because you're out of work. 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:49.680 Ask God to give you wisdom. 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:51.039 He's got work for you to do. 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:55.839 And then make more than you need so you can give. 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:56.799