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Episode 4: NBA Conference Finals/NFC East Schedule Predictions
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We take a look at game 2 of the Spurs v. Thunder and game 2 of Knicks v. Cavs while deep diving into the NFC East schedules this week.
All right, welcome to another episode of Between the Coast. I'm your host, Fernando, with our stars Cassius and Jared. Today we will be looking at the recap for game two of the Eastern Conference Finals and the Western Conference Finals. Then we will be diving into our NFL predictions for the NFC East schedule, followed by latest news and updates in the NFL. Alright, so let's get into it. The Knicks are 2-0. This is their ninth straight playoff win. Tied for franchise record. First time winning 10 of 12 playoff games in a playoff series. Cassius, we'll start with you. What's your take?
SPEAKER_04Never thought we'd see it. The Knicks might go to the finals in our lifetime. Woo! No, seriously, though. I mean, at the end of the day, uh, it was an all-around great game for the Knicks again. Uh they didn't shoot well from three. Uh, but I mean, I think they had 32 assists compared to 15 assists from the Cavs. So we had hero ball versus just just you know, just pure basketball uh just fluency, you know what I mean? Uh I think Brunson had 14 assists, uh I think Cat had uh 13 rebounds, like and uh Hart had I think 26 which like if Hart is your best scorer, you know you might be in a good place then just to see everybody else contribute. So uh I the Cleveland has Cleveland has so many things going on, I I really don't know what to say. I mean uh again Harden six of fifteen. He had no turnovers, so he did improve that, but uh they shot nine of thirty-five from three. Uh 25%. You're not gonna win with that. And the Knicks didn't shoot much better. Uh and yeah, I just I just think that the series going to home, like I don't know what they can do, but Donovan's gotta get his big men going and figure out how to make sure this team can keep up with the Knicks because it's coming from almost any player for the Knicks now. Um, and that's what's definitely hurting the Cavs.
SPEAKER_01What's hurting the Cavs is they have two robins. They don't have a bad man. And I told you that before. Donovan Mitchell is a robin. He is he can't be the best player on a championship team. And this is proving that James Harden is old. I said that before. Um their coaching and how he's coaching them, it it ain't it ain't cutting it. Their championship was beating Detroit. And this is what this series is showing. It's that simple. They don't match up well at all. They have no answer for uh is it Mitchell Robinson down low? They have no answer for him, and unless they're doing heck of Mitchell. I was just gonna say, and even then, the Knicks counter that from with their guard play because they take him off the floor, and then Brunson, Hart, Bridges, they get going. The Cavs have bigger issues, and it's more of a matchup problem in the simple fact that they don't have a Batman in this series.
SPEAKER_04Well, and and just just looking at the numbers, well, this last game, plus minus, every single starter was negative. Every single one. Uh James Harden was negative 22, plus minus. Uh, again, at least he had no turnovers, but if you have no turnovers, but yet you're not contributing much while on the floor. Uh, and then you have uh Jared Allen negative 20. Like, great. 13 and 10, but again, what are you doing defensively to help this team? You and Mobley should be in that hole making sure that Kat can't get a shot off or at the three-point line where he likes to stay. But at the end of the day, Kat can't be that assist creation he's become now that he's always wanted to be, unless he can stretch the floor. And I I just don't understand how Mobley can't keep up with him. They're they're pretty much the same length. It's it's not anything of a strength factor because Jared Allen should be able to protect the hole, I'm saying. Jared Allen at least. Mobley's not as strong. If you have both of them, one is supposed to be protecting the three-line, which is gonna be Mobley because that's where he stays anyway. And if Kat then drives the hole, that's where you have that step up come up of Jared Allen to protect. But it's it's not it's not translating. They're leaving too many people open. Like, I don't understand why Dean Wade is in now. Like, he had three points, three rebounds, and the only thing he's doing is try to stop Brunson. Well, guess what? Brunson's too smart. Guess what he had? 14 assists. He said, Okay, you want to stop me from scoring? Great. I'll just pass the ball.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this series is over. To put it, to put it kindly. Um and if it's if it's not a sweep, it's gonna be a gentleman's sweep. The only way they get out of this series is if somebody becomes Batman, it's not gonna be James Harden. I think Cassius has alluded to that. With a plus-minus of negative 22, or what, minus 22, however you say it, that's not gonna cut it. What was Donovan Mitchell's plus-minus? Minus eight. Even then, I mean, that's better, but like they can get out of this series. One assist. Right, they but one assist. Like five, five fouls. So they can't get out of this series with him playing like that. And to be perfectly honest, once they lose, we're gonna have to have a conversation about Donovan Mitchell. Because this whole will Donovan Mitchell want to stay in Cleveland conversation is gonna be who who can they trade for Donovan Mitchell? Because this isn't it. They're not no, they're just gonna bring LeBron in to be the That's their only savior.
SPEAKER_04Be the plus. That's their only savior. That's that's who you would bring in. Or honestly, I don't think KD's gonna stay with Houston, so there's I think there's gonna be a lot of old veteran uh that is gonna be moving. I don't think Kawhi's gonna stay with the Clippers. I think there's gonna be a lot of moving pieces this summer.
SPEAKER_01Kawhi ain't going to Cleveland. LeBron might no, I'm just answering some of those questions. I don't think KD would either. I'm just being honest. I think LeBron is their best shot, but hey, that's just me.
SPEAKER_02Alright, well, we can uh discuss this further in detail in our next take when we talk about the Knicks versus Cavs. Uh all right, and at this time we are gonna transition out west to our West Western Conference Final, game two, Thunder vs Spurs. Uh so as we review game two of the Thunder vs. Spurs, what stood out to you, Jared?
SPEAKER_01What was stood out to me is Shay, he got back on track enough. Um there's a lot of injuries in this series, but ultimately, even from what we're seeing with the game in progress right now, I just think OKC, their championship experience is showing, um, to put it lightly. I think the Spurs are kind of being overcome with injuries. Like they got a lot of people playing Hurt. Well, the thing with that is everybody's playing Hurt right now. So, you know, but the Spurs being a lot younger, they're learning to manage that right now versus OKC who has been there before. They've had these deep playoff runs. So, I mean, ultimately, this series could still go six or seven. It's been a lot first game, great game, instant classic. Second game, you know, OKC showed why they're the champions, why they're the current champs. And, you know, they're still they're doing that as we speak right now. So, I mean, the only thing that's gonna save the Spurs are if they're their guys start playing through injury. I mean, who who Fox just came back? And isn't Harper dealing with a quad injury, Cash?
SPEAKER_03He came back too.
SPEAKER_01But isn't he dealing with a quad injury or something like that? Yeah, so he's young. So, you know, it I think injury might do them in. I think their youth might do them in. And I think OKC is probably they're gonna close it out in six, if I had to predict right now.
SPEAKER_04Uh, I still have Spurs. Uh I I do think that uh, of course, you know, that second game, like Shy or Shea did really did come back and say, hey, like, this is why I'm the MVP. Um, I mean, just efficiency, which is what we always talk about. I mean, 12 of 24. Uh, he was over three three for three, but he had 30 points, um, nine assists. Uh and at the end of the day, like, we talked about who needed to step up, and they also are dealing with injury. Uh, Jalen Williams got hurt again. Uh yeah, but they played all year without him. And that is true, and I I always gonna bring that up, but and that is that is a bit of the the difference. I I feel that they are a deep team, um, especially with the Jared McCain trade that happened with the Sixers, like that really did boost their entire bench. Um, AJ Mitchell, I was a little concerned, and I still kind of am. Um, he did have 10 points the last game and he paid 20 minutes, but he did get a little banged up in the fourth quarter. He said he's fine now, um, and he is going to be playing for today's game, but um at the end of the day, like they they do have a deep bag of like kind of anyone can show up when they need to. Uh the only thing I will say is that them losing Jalen in the playoffs is a lot different than them losing them in the regular season. And yes, it prepared them for this time. Um, but I I do think that it's not that the Spurs don't have any playoff experience, I feel like they just have that playoff experience with individual players, and the organization as a whole is is just such a prominent organization in NBA history. The people they have in the backing, I feel like is what can help overcome that. And why what I mean that is that because they have uh Harrison Barnes on the team. Harrison Barnes has enough.
SPEAKER_01That's the only person, though, which means I'm sorry, man. No, Darian Fox. Darian Fox has been in the playoffs as well. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he was with the the Kings, but they lost. You're you're talking about the Spurs. Like they've built an organization, and look, it's not like any of these people who have built the greatness of the Spurs are really gone. Greg Popovich is in that building every day. Tim Duncan is in that building every single day. David Robinson is in that building every day. That's not my point. Hang on. That's let me make my point. Tony Parker calls Wimby every day. He calls these players. They're in they're in this, giving that championship mindset still to this team to say, hey, you guys can still do this. We did it. We've done it plenty of times where the Spurs didn't have that type of experience yet. But guess what? They won championships in young, young times in their career because they had the right set of players. And I think to your point, if they can stay healthy now that Fox is playing, looks like the two days helped him. And depending on how Harper is, he doesn't aggravate and make anything worse. I think they they can go deep enough to take this team far and take them seven.
SPEAKER_01Especially if Jalen Williams is going to be out. So that's not my point. My point is I'm not talking about the people you have in the organization. Every organization has that, every organization that won has that. My point is the playoff experience, being on the floor as a team, losing and going through the process. Like, nobody's arguing that Ginobly, Tony Parker, Pop, and Duncan aren't in the building. There are other organizations who had that as well. You would you mentioned Harrison Barnes and Fox. That's cool. Harrison Barnes, champion. Fox, been in the to the first round, lost in seven to the Warriors. Other than that, he's been on sorry teams. Let's just call it what it is outside of that one year. Okay, but let me ask you this.
SPEAKER_04What other organization has had people in the building that have won championships within the last 10 to 20 years?
SPEAKER_01Well, other organizations that have people in the building. So you're talking about like the Lakers? Are we talking about the Pistons? It's 20 years exactly.
SPEAKER_04Okay, but how like is Shaq in the building at the Lakers facility ever? Does does Jerry West hang out at the Lakers? No, they don't. That's my point.
SPEAKER_01So I just gave you the Pistons too, and you didn't even respond to that.
SPEAKER_04They're still in the building.
SPEAKER_01I didn't say the Pistons, but who name some players that I gotta name uh Ben Wallace, Richard Hamilton, like Rasheed Wallace. What are we talking about? What are they talking about?
SPEAKER_04Were they at the games?
SPEAKER_01Yes, they're at the games. What are you talking about? They're at the games. You weren't watching the games. That's I know.
SPEAKER_04No, I was watching the games.
SPEAKER_01They're in yes, they're there, bro. Like, that's my point. That was also my point with the Ja Moran bringing him in because there's a culture. You see how they got K going? You see how they got that young team going this team.
SPEAKER_04That's a different argument. Ja has a lasting issue in the in the league right now with his with how he is.
SPEAKER_01That's a whole different story. There are organizations that have veterans in the background. Of every organization, there is a veteran in the background. That's my point.
SPEAKER_04I know. My point is that you have a second head coach that's always there. That's won multi-champ multiple championships, and Greg Pop is there. That's my point. You have Tim Duncan and David Robinson, who were both drafted as centers and have both won championships, and literally can pass their same information, their knowledge, their skill sets to a player who is also a center. Okay, so does the so does the heat.
SPEAKER_01They got Alonzo Morning, who's been there for 20 fucking years. Alonso. He's still here.
SPEAKER_04Alonzo Moon.
SPEAKER_01Is he not a champion? Is he not an organization? Pat Riley's won multiple championships.
SPEAKER_04He's in the front office. Pat Riley is someone who is not changing with the time right now, and it's affecting that organization.
SPEAKER_01You're moving the goalpost as to what your question was. Yes, you are. Yes, you are.
SPEAKER_04And I was telling you how I feel about Pat Riley. I think he's an all-time legend, but it's at the end of the day, like that's a different league now.
SPEAKER_01But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about some uh people who have coaches and players who have been with the organization who are helping groom the young talent. That's what we're talking about. Right.
SPEAKER_04So you did move the goalpopolitic. I'm saying that the Spurs have the best combination of that out of any of the teams because of the history they've had recently. Recently.
SPEAKER_01The last time they won a championship was what year, Cass is?
SPEAKER_04You tell me. What year was it? How many championships did they win?
SPEAKER_01Are we talking aren't we easily talking about 2013?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and how many championships did Tim Duncan win in that organization with Burke?
SPEAKER_01We won five. That's not the point, though. My point is it's been over 10 years since they won.
SPEAKER_04Okay, but it they're still there. They still know what it takes to win. It doesn't matter. You won five championships in the last how long?
SPEAKER_01They're one of the greatest dynasties. Nobody's arguing that, but my point is See, if you're not gonna understand my point, then there's no point going back and forth. Then why are you still?
SPEAKER_04They won one championship in the 2000s. One championship, great. I'm awesome. Always be there. Five championships versus one.
SPEAKER_02All right. Uh at this time, we are gonna transition to the NFL. Like I said before, we are going to discuss the latest news and updates at the end, but we're first gonna jump into our predictions for the NFC E schedule. All right.
SPEAKER_04Uh week one. Washington.
SPEAKER_01That's a close game. It's a win. Yeah, I agree with you. That's a dub. I don't think it's a close game, but I think it's a win. You don't think it's a close game?
SPEAKER_04I don't think the commanders have done anything this year to make them that much better. But uh that's for a different conversation. I feel like that's for a true NFC East dive in. Uh week two, Titans, it's a win. Dub. Bears, we talked about this. I think they will beat us. I think that'll be a close game. Dub. Rams, loss. Loss. Uh I I knew it. Jacksonville has a has an uh overseas game, October 11th. Uh looks to be uh I I actually think they they lose because of Jacksonville's record overseas.
SPEAKER_01You know what? I'm gonna go a different direction. I gotta win it.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01I mean, four and one. I was gonna say what? Like the Rams. Four and one. Yeah, they lost to they're gonna lose to the Rams.
SPEAKER_04Panthers, I have as a win. Dub. Cowboys, uh, I have that as a loss.
SPEAKER_01Because it's at home, I'm gonna say dub.
SPEAKER_04Alright. Uh week eight, another Washington. I think they sweep them. It's a win. I agree. Uh Giants, I think that's a win. How ironic, I agree. Uh week 10 by. Week 11, Steelers. Uh, I think that's a win. I agree. Uh, oh. The Thanksgiving game against, of course, the Cowboys. Uh I have. That is a loss. I'm gonna say that's a loss. Uh week 13, we have against the Cardinals. Uh, that's a win. Dub. Week 14 against the Colts. That's also uh that's a dub. Yep. Week 15 uh at Seattle.
SPEAKER_01That's a dub. That's a loss. I think it's a dub, man. I I think Seattle losing canine is gonna be, and they lost some of their DBs. I think that I think it's gonna be a dub. I got as a loss.
SPEAKER_04I still I still believe in the team. I don't and I I don't have as as much confidence. Uh Texans at home. Uh I actually have that as a loss, also.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, as a win. At home?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01In the cold? Christmas Eve? Yeah, dub.
SPEAKER_04Uh and then we have 49ers, week 17. I have that as a loss. That's away game.
SPEAKER_01You know, it's a trap game. I'm gonna give it to it as a loss.
SPEAKER_04And week 18, away at me count this up. Dub. Loss.
SPEAKER_01This guy.
SPEAKER_00Well, okay.
SPEAKER_02Alright, so Cassius has the equals going nine and eight. Jared, you have them going fourteen and three. I have them going at twelve and five.
SPEAKER_01Nine and eight is crazy with that schedule. I'm just gonna throw that out there. I just don't think they're gonna be. That's a take. That's a take. We will be revisiting this.
SPEAKER_03Well, next we have our Dallas Cowboys.
SPEAKER_04I think I think the once AJ Brown is gone, it's gonna hurt that team a lot more on the offensive side. Yeah, but I also I also don't believe in their offensive coordinator they've had in the last three years. So Jalen Hurts wants to play one style, but they want to play another. Alright. We got the Dallas Cowboys. Finish second in the division. And uh yeah. Did not make the playoffs, though.
SPEAKER_01Alright, at New York Giants. Oh, that's a win. I agree. Washington Commanders at home. That's a win. I agree. They're playing Rio. Ravens in Rio.
SPEAKER_04That's crazy. Honestly, I don't even know what to expect with that game, but I'm gonna say the Ravens win. That one.
SPEAKER_01I agree. I think they I think they win that one. At Texans. Uh, that's a loss. Yeah, I agree. Tampa coming to the the star. Is what they call it? The star? Well, I don't know what they call it anymore. I'm not a Dallas fan. Only Dallas fans. Yeah, pretty much. Um, so Tampa at home. Uh, I have that as a win. Which is crazy because low-key, I want to say, that's a losable game for them that early in the season. I think they'll win that one. You know what? I'm gonna say it. They lose.
SPEAKER_00Alright.
SPEAKER_01Uh at Packers. That's a win. That's a loss. At Philly.
SPEAKER_03Uh, I think I had them uh losing that one. That's a loss. I had the Cowboys uh beating them twice. So no, that's a win.
SPEAKER_01Arizona at home. Oh, that's a win. I agree. San Francisco at home. That's a loss. I agree. Tennessee at home. That's a win. I agree. Philly at home. That's a loss. Um at Seattle. That's a loss. That might be a loss. I think. I think it's a loss. I think so. I think that's a loss, too. Alright. At Rams. Loss. I agree. Jacksonville at home. Win. Yeah, I'm gonna agree. New York Giants at home. Win. I agree. Commanders on the road. I'm gonna say win win.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna say win. Alright.
SPEAKER_02Cassius has the Cowboys going at 12 and 5. Jared, you have them going eight and nine. I have them going at 10 and 7.
SPEAKER_01Down years for them boys. They've had down years. This is the year I don't think it's gonna be a down year finally. And they still get bounced in the first round.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that I can predict. Now that I'm on board. Alright, now we are on to Washington, third place in the division. Of course, they had their injuries with Jaden Daniels, the third best quarterback taken in the 2024 draft now. Caleb being number one. We can have that talk later, too. But week one away at Philadelphia. I have that as a loss. Yeah, that's a loss. Actually, it's pretty crazy to start both away games as both division games. Pretty crazy. Second game away at Dallas, loss. I agree. Then uh home home game with Seattle coming in, loss. Loss. Uh Colts at Tottenham. Another international game. 9-30 game. Uh I have them winning. That'll probably be their first win, hopefully.
SPEAKER_01I agree.
SPEAKER_04Uh Sunday Giants at home. I'll I'll give them that one. It's a dub. Yeah, that's a win. Uh then 49ers on the road. Lost.
SPEAKER_01Back in the losing column.
SPEAKER_04Yep, yep, yep. Uh seven, week seven bye for them. Uh week eight at home, Philadelphia. Lost. I have that as a loss. Uh Rams at home. I think we are gonna beat them. See, you're seeing what I'm seeing now, Jared. Giants. Away. That's a dub. I'll give them that one. I have the Giants winning. I have the Giants winning that one. Giants at home. So that's a loss for them. But then Cincinnati Bengals. These home games are some brutal opponents facing. I have them losing. Joe Burrow is gonna look great this year. Yeah, they're gonna lose to Cincinnati. Then at Cardinals, should be a win. That's a win. At Tennessee, duh.
SPEAKER_01That should be a win. Should be is being that is that is quite the adjective you're throwing out with.
SPEAKER_04We'll see. The Titans, the Titans might be a weird team this year. Not saying they might be uh, you know, worse the first, but they might be a team that competes just because of that coaching staff. Robert Sala does not coach Wimps. Um at home, two-game home streak with uh the Houston Texans. Loss. Loss. Uh then Atlanta Falcons. I think they'll win that one. Duh. Uh then at Minnesota, loss. I actually had the light.
SPEAKER_01Get James. I'm gonna say it's a win. Yeah, I got them as a loss.
SPEAKER_04Uh I'm gonna stick with win for right now. Uh, and then final game, Dallas walk in, and that's a loss for me.
SPEAKER_02Wait, Cassie, is your last two or both?
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03Oh, so you you see what I was saying about the commanders now.
SPEAKER_04Yes, sir. Jared, now you see.
SPEAKER_01My argument isn't with the commanders, it's with the Giants.
SPEAKER_04But I was saying that, I was just saying you see that you you said look at the Giants schedule. I said, look at the commander schedule.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that that's great. That's uh Cassius has them going uh 5 and 12. Jared, you have them going 7 and 10. I have them going 10 and 7. Yeah. After reading it with you guys, I'm far off. I I don't have faith in my fiction.
SPEAKER_04Whoa.
SPEAKER_00That is true.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_01You know, if you're right, tell everybody how right you were about that.
SPEAKER_03That's true, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I have faith. I think they're gonna have a really good bounce back season. I don't know why. Alright. Yes, that is the key.
SPEAKER_01That if Jaden can stay healthy. I think he will be healthy this year, but I mean, I just they that defense lost some pieces.
SPEAKER_04Which they lost pieces last year, too. Like the defense didn't get better. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you look at the teams as a whole, the Giants have a team that compete is just as much as I'd say this year with the Eagles and the Cowboys, offensively and defensively, because they're structured so well on both sides.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, I mean, well, we'll see. I just for Washington, I just don't know about them, man. Like I that defense, they still got they let back they let Bobby Wagner well out the door. Again, I'm thinking Jaden's audience is gonna bounce back here. He's gonna stay healthy.
SPEAKER_02Every game is going to be a close game, it's gonna be a shootout. As long as he is healthy and he plays well, like he did his rookie year, I think they can do well. Yeah, it was at one point.
SPEAKER_01Uh, who's a running back? Didn't he blow his Achilles out? When the heckler, yeah, but but but that's my point.
SPEAKER_04It was like, did they draft anyone this year?
SPEAKER_03I can't remember.
SPEAKER_04I don't think they drafted a running back. Because uh Jaden runs too much that they don't have a let me check. I could have sworn that they uh did, but but my issue is the running game. Like if they don't have a solidified, because they couldn't figure it out with Bill Krosky last year. Like we thought Bill was gonna come in and and be the guy, and he just never could get his footing, and then Christian Rodriguez came in out of nowhere and started having at least some decent games, but at the end of the day, like my tron allen from Penn State in the sixth round. Okay, that's who I thought. That's that's the only running back they took, right? Yeah, yeah. So in my head, that's my biggest concern is like the the issue that we're gonna run into is the same thing that the Giants are trying to fix with Jackson Dart. Jackson was very similar playstyle to how Jaden was, just you know what I mean? Like that run and gun type of quarterback who's gonna put his bye on the line, it doesn't matter. And oh, they signed Rasheed White. That's who they signed. And Rasheed White's is a is a good upgrade to what they had, but at the end of the end of the day, you have Krosky Merritt and Rasheed White as your your starting two. I just don't see those running backs being enough. We shall see. All right, let's get into the Giants schedule. Make a difference with Jaden not having to try to play hero ball.
SPEAKER_03So Jared, take it away.
SPEAKER_01We got week one, Dallas at home. Loss. I agree. Week two, actually, might I add, starting Sunday night football. Wild. Wild. And then week two, you're on the road for Monday night football against the Rams. Uh to get your ass kicked.
SPEAKER_04A loss again. Not a great, not a great start to the season for good. Arbo's gonna be like pissed, dude.
SPEAKER_01He's like, this is what they give me. Man, week three at home versus the Titans, I think they get in the win column there. Week four at home against the Cardinals, they get in the win column. Win. Week five against the Commanders. I'm gonna say they lose that game. I also think they win that game, though. So at home against the Saints, they win that game.
SPEAKER_04I also think they win that game.
SPEAKER_01And then they go down to Houston and get destroyed in week seven.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's a loss.
SPEAKER_01And then you got the bye week. Week nine versus the Eagles on the road, might I add. At the link. That's a loss. Absolutely. Week 10. Thursday night. What? Yeah, Thursday night. Against the Commanders. Uh, that's a win. That's a loss. Week 11 against the Jags at home. I'm gonna give them a win. That's a loss. Week 12 on the road against the Colts. That's a dub. That's a win. Week 13 at home. San Francisco's coming to town. That's a loss. Loss. Week 14 on the road. That's a loss. At Seattle. That's a loss for sure. Absolutely, it's a loss. 12th man's gonna be loud. 12th man is might be an earthquake. Week 15 against the Browns at home. They better win that fucking game. That's a win. Week 16 in Detroit. Oh my gosh. Monday night. Win. The way he paused, he don't even believe that. That's a loss. Nope, that's a win. That's a loss. Um week 17 at uh at Dallas.
SPEAKER_04That's a loss.
SPEAKER_01That's a loss. In week 18, Philly comes home. Win. That's a loss. That is a win. Nando give it to us straight.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Who do you guys want to hear first? Who's do you want to hear first? Right, alright. Cassius has the giants going at nine and eight. Jared, you have them going five and twelve. I have the giants going six and eleven.
SPEAKER_04Which means technically Nando was right in our pre-show, because they're tied for second and third with the Eagles. So they could go second or third, as I have them now. But if they beat the Eagles in that last game at home, they would technically actually jump to second.
SPEAKER_02So all right, and at this time, we will end our show with the latest dates uh in the NFL. Uh Cassius, I will give the mic to you.
SPEAKER_04Uh we have Aaron Rodgers, uh, who is officially signed coming back to the Steelers, but has announced that he will be retiring after this season. Doesn't really matter. He's not gonna get another championship with the Steelers this year.
SPEAKER_01So I mean Aaron Rodgers strikes me as a guy that will come off the couch in two years, but whatever.
SPEAKER_04He's not coming off the couch in two years. He's gonna be doing some ayahuasca on the couch in two years.
SPEAKER_01I mean, some of that before some of that before his phone rings.
SPEAKER_04Uh sure, but be on the couch in ayahuasca or taking some of that, and he's gonna be thinking he's playing the game still. All right. That's where he's gonna be.
SPEAKER_01Listen, don't let your hate for Aaron Rodgers ruin the moment. Okay.
SPEAKER_04What moment? You think the reunion between him and Mike McCarthy is gonna be a it's not gonna go well.
SPEAKER_01It's not gonna go well.
SPEAKER_04We're just talking about his retirement. All I need to hear. See? Listen, man. Continuing on news, uh, Malik Neighbors is had a second surgery, and the reports are not looking as great, uh, with him potentially not maybe now missing the first couple weeks of the season. Not only does that, of course, affect the Giants' uh offense massively, but of course it does affect uh how you might have draft him this year in fantasy.
SPEAKER_01Yes, Jared, you are correct. And he told me and he told me I was wrong. I said you might be wrong. But I think we'll see. Fernando, I need a yes or no for the crowd. Okay, thank you.
SPEAKER_04But we don't know yet. It's not like you're right. Week one hasn't happened yet, bud. I'm right. Technically, you're not.
SPEAKER_01You're right. No one's right. If they're reporting, you might miss the beginning of the season. That means until the season happens, I'm in first place. So you can find me.
SPEAKER_02We're talking about looking into then you're in the wrong mode. So I mean, we gotta put it in the middle.
SPEAKER_00Uh I'm alright with that.
SPEAKER_02I know.
SPEAKER_01Which was Yeah, nobody argued that one though.
SPEAKER_04Uh which, Nando, if uh referencing back to a comment I made saying that Rasheed Rice would be in jail before the season started. I did not know it would be two days later. Um Rashi Rice has been arrested and will have to serve 30 days in jail due to uh avoiding his parole by smoking marijuana. Um, unfortunate. But also, I'd coming.
SPEAKER_01Rice, if you hear this, man, you want to come on the pod, let us know. I coming, bud. I mean, well, t we gotta wait 30 days.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So uh and then in the final news, uh the uh uh I think the Vikings were just announced for 2028 draft location.
SPEAKER_03Is that correct, Jared?
SPEAKER_01Um, I don't know the Vikings.
SPEAKER_03Let's confirm.
SPEAKER_01Uh 2020 draft. It is Minnesota, you're right.
SPEAKER_03God, I don't get sometimes.
SPEAKER_02I mean, the Rams extended Matthew Stafford's um contract for another year. So 60 million for another year. Alright, well, thank you for joining another episode. Uh tune in next time. We will be reviewing the NBA conference finals again, followed by the NFC South schedule predictions. So, again, thanks for joining the best in the Midwest, and join us next time for another episode of Between the Coasts.
SPEAKER_00See ya, I'm gonna go.