Kid Rock Took One Off the Face, Jay’s Rat War, and Michigan Baseball Is Heating Up

The guys welcome Michigan Assistant Coach Andrew Stone while Jay is officially at war with a neighborhood rat infestation (yes, it involves coyote piss). Mike admits to throwing a no-look pass off Kid Rock’s face, and the guys break down a huge weekend of college baseball—plus a great conversation with this week’s guest. Michigan is climbing, Michigan State makes a statement out west, and the MAC is turning into absolute chaos. A little bit of everything in this one. 

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SPEAKER_03 0:01

Alright. Let's get going. Leave that in and say, let's get going.

SPEAKER_04 0:07

It's perfect. It's perfect. All right. Welcome into another episode of the walk on. As you can hear by that burp, Jay's back, Doug's back. Mike decided not to book a trip for the second time in five weeks, so he's actually here again. Do have baseball to talk about, but we have um a curveball for you, no pun intended. I did not plan on this being the start, but Jay has a rat problem, and I want him to tell it. He started to tell it, and then I told him and Mike to stop talking about it because I wanted to save it for recording. So, Jay, uh, you have some rats hanging out around your house. Tell the story, dude. I do.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

Um how did they get there? Well, they're always there, right? We live in St. Clair Shores, so it's a city. They're always around, but they're transient. They're looking for food. Um, and when they find a food source, they become neighbors. They they try to live there. Uh so what's happened to me and why I wasn't here last week is I'm dealing with something where I have a neighbor who lives behind me. Is she hot? No, not at all hot. Disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Um isn't that the first thing you think of?

SPEAKER_04 1:17

You hope. First of all, he just said a neighbor, not yeah, I don't have a he didn't say I have a lady, just a neighbor, and Mike, Mike's perverted ass just went, Oh, go ahead. Neighbor.

SPEAKER_03 1:27

Yeah, so throughout the winter, and she's new, so she doesn't know any better, but throughout the winter, she decided, what are the little squirrels and birds gonna do to survive the winter? So she said, I'm gonna put a buffet out for squirrels. A buffet? Yeah, so she had eight bowls laid out in her backyard with walnuts, peanuts, and sunflower seeds, and it was a buffet for the squirrels. Because how are the squirrels gonna make it through the winter? They've only been doing it for millions and millions of years. So she thought she was gonna put her thumb on the scale and help them survive. So what happened then was now we have rats nesting in a bunch of our neighbors' houses and building homes under stairs and chewing through garages, all this stuff. Have any of them made it into your house yet? No, not in the house. Okay, that that's that's a plot.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

That's a silver lining. You should put some of that, you know, all those bags of oregano you have in your house?

SPEAKER_03 2:17

Well, I do it.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Put some of that in the freaking bowl.

SPEAKER_03 2:20

Well, I've got a I've got a whole plan. I've sprayed coyote piss around the house. I've sprayed um Where do you get coyote piss? You order it on Amazon. You order peppermint spray, you spray around the house.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

Um Doug used to have that stuff in the hunting department.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

Didn't he? Remember that? He did. Dunham's. He did.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Yeah. Um yeah, they would have uh they'd have all sorts of these crazy scents that people would use for hunting. And they were there for like years before we had even started working there. And they'd all they were always in these these little glass bottles.

SPEAKER_04 2:51

Oh what? So they it would mask your scent, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:54

Yeah, and they had used it for other things, but they had all gone bad. So when you opened one of these up, it was just pure awfulness.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

So it's expired animal piss.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

And of course, so what I did is I would just take them, and you know, we were younger, so people weren't locking their cars as much, and I would put them underneath the seat of somebody's car that worked there, and then you would just see them drive away and just be like like in my 89 Dodge shadow. Just sticking them underneath and let them sit there for hours in the heat.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Just absolutely and we, of course, we're idiots, we're 18 and 19. We would just go to that aisle and open them and just let the leeches or put them in a pair of bark leeches.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

You you you learned pretty quickly to keep your car locked because otherwise you're gonna have expired piss in there.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Yeah, back back to Jay's.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

Yeah, so anyway, so Jay's ordering piss online. Yeah, so I sprayed piss around, I've sprayed peppermint spray, it's helped a lot. Um, I pulled my backstairs up out of the ground and evicted the rats that were living in there by filling holes with cement and dirt.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

You're doing all this by yourself.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

Oh, yeah. Flooding them out with hoses so they run out. I've killed probably 17 of these things over the last month and a half. 17 rats? Yeah, oh yeah. And traps traps just traps. Yeah, just traps. How big are rats are big. Some are big. One looked like a cat running in my backyard one night. I was like, holy shit, dude, that thing's big. So I'm like, yourself is gonna stop. And I like to hang out in my backyard, so now I'm worried when I have fires and stuff. I'm like, what random?

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Yeah, what happens with the weather? Like it's gonna be like 70 tomorrow. Does it get worse?

SPEAKER_03 4:30

Well, no, eventually when people get outside more, they start to pick up on the patterns and they'll they'll be a little more scarce. But since it was winter time, they've had free rain of the area. So, you know, you just gotta do the best you can with them. Um I had one the other day get caught in there, and then I pulled I I went to find it, the trap was moved, and half the rat was eaten. Oh, something found it at night in the trap and ate them while I was sitting in there clamped in it. Um, but the trap's pretty good, it's humane, it gets them real quick, and you can't see any of the blood or any of that stuff. Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

I didn't realize you were going through all that shit.

SPEAKER_03 5:07

Oh, yeah, it's uh it's a mess. So, like my time when I get home from work has been taken from the street.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

Usually, when we ask you to go out and have a drink, you make up some random shit, and we know he's lying because he just doesn't want to go, but that sounds real.

SPEAKER_04 5:19

So he's he's the rat's version of Pull Pot right now, just absolutely massacring any rat. Yeah, yeah, I don't want him around.

SPEAKER_03 5:27

How many are are left, do you think? Who knows? They say when you see one, you see there's tons. So it's it's hard to quantify.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

And they're coming over there because of your neighbor?

SPEAKER_03 5:35

Yeah, so they that now, like Well, yeah, they're eating better than half the homeless people out there. Now the good thing is more animals will be out. We have neighbors who have outdoor cats, they'll be wandering around the neighborhood. I feel like one of those outdoor cats probably ate half that rat's ass that day. So that's probably why he was half eaten. So that was good, but other than that, it's it's just you got to keep doing it. Eventually they get to a point where they're like, you know what, this isn't worth it. We're moving. All my friends are being murdered. Yeah. Has the buffet been moved? Yeah, oh yeah, city got on her, but she retaliated against me and reported my garage for blight because it's been chewed up by the rats. So now I have to fix that as well. You might have to get a new one. Which, yeah, which I was gonna do it anyways because it was one of my projects, but it got sped up a little bit. So yeah, trying to figure all that out and I'm back. So please uh tweet at walk ons PC and advice for killing rats for sure. Actually, I don't need advice on killing them, I just don't want them ever to be back. And I and I think I figured it out. Do we need to if you have any animal piss, please send it to Jason Voltro. Yeah, if you sell piss, or if you have to piss, just go do piss from his backyard. They pr they they don't they don't like coyote piss because they're a predator.

SPEAKER_01 6:49

So we missed Jay last week because of the rats and his hot neighbor.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

The secret of Nim is at my house.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

And then we missed Doug last week because you had a turn you had a tournament, or what'd you have?

SPEAKER_02 7:02

I had a game.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

Soccer or baseball? Baseball. You were coaching?

SPEAKER_02 7:06

No.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

Oh, yeah, you're not coaching yet.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

No, it was it was my younger son's game.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

His younger son is a good little middle infielder.

SPEAKER_03 7:17

Good little golfer. The other one.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

The older one is the golfer. The younger one looks to me like he could be a baseball player. Believe it or not, watching Doug throw a ball that actually.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Doug can throw a football well.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

I Are we gonna talk about batting practice? I snagged a uh I snagged a foul ball yesterday pretty good.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

You know how you can tell you in the air or on a hop.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

It was on a hop, it was a really bad uh uh the it was a turf field, but it was the outside of it was all grass and it was all mud and everything. And believe me, I was shocked that I caught it too, because it was hopping all over the place.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

You know how you could tell a guy didn't really like play a lot of baseball growing up when he says he snagged something. I fucking snagged it. Snapped one. Like when Jay used to block shots, he goes, I packed that shot. Packed you.

SPEAKER_04 8:05

I don't think I've someone heard someone use the word packed since I was in like eighth grade. That's all I still feel like.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

Jay would say it all the time.

SPEAKER_04 8:11

Packed him. Gets it by a fingertip, packed.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

I packed somebody before in my life. I packed him right on the rim. That was in Florida. Yep, sure was. Guy thought he was about to go up for a dunk, got packed on a rim. Got pinned on the rim.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

The best part of that is that. So we were on spring break, and we were trying to find something to do.

SPEAKER_04 8:32

What year is it? Okay, let's get five.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

Okay. So we were all just we were all just walking around. I was negative one.

SPEAKER_04 8:42

We're not even born yet.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

Holy smokes. We're all just walking around and somebody had a convertible, it was a Jeep or something like that, and there was a basketball in the back of it. Oh yeah. And I don't remember who grabbed it, but probably shocker. Yeah. Wait, so someone just quitted petty theft. We weren't intending to go play basketball. We didn't even know where to go play.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

We were though, because one of the guys that we worked with at Dunham said a stolen Alonso morning jersey on it.

SPEAKER_04 9:09

So timeout. You guys are in Florida for spring break. Correct. No cell phones, no, yes, I understand it. Drove there. Um so you're there and you're just walking, and you guys see a basketball in not your vehicle and say, sure, why not? Yes. Yeah. Okay. We played like 15 games.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

And so then we just started walking around and we found a uh basketball court and we started playing, and then these guys showed up.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

And we just started getting a game.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Yeah, it was. Who's got next? One of our guys had a Alonzo Morning Hornets jersey on. Like again.

SPEAKER_04 9:46

Did Mike play at all in this? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

Yeah, Mike was good. He was the best one of all of us.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Yeah, he was he was really you were a hooper. He had crossovers. He was hold on.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

He he had good handles, but he could not shoot.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

I had great vision.

SPEAKER_04 10:02

So his stat line was one for eleven with 13 assists and five rebounds.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Or like oh for two. I wouldn't even shoot. Yeah, I wouldn't take the times.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

No. Alright, so second J Piss. Make sure you don't have you have your basketball secured around Doug. I did not steal the basketball. I'm just known about it.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Doug doesn't do any bad things ever.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

Doug's just with us and gets subjected to bad things.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

He just snags foul balls. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 10:30

Doug's just hangs out with a bunch of hooligans and has to by default.

SPEAKER_04 10:34

And then play off defense against Mike when he's on the basketball. Yeah, we'll see. If someone's treat him like he's uh Ben Simmons.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

If somebody is listening to this that we grew up with, they'll validate. Yeah. I couldn't be covered, dude.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

Yeah, no, he was good. But there was only one day he wasn't good.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Oh yeah. We play okay, one more thing. We went basketball city was like brand new. Did you ever hear of Basketball City? And we went, we would go there to play pickup on like Fridays or whatever. And we played like, I don't know, we just shoot around, you know, like almost kind of like who's gonna get picked. They have captains, and Jay was the number one pick for the first time out of 65 times. And he still talks about it. Every once in a while he'll be like, I was picked first, I was picked over you. Someone goes, Let me get the shooter. Was it was Jay a Hooper? No. No. He had no left. No left. He had one move, he'd go through his leg, his with his right, go through to the left, do a spin move, and then pull up some jumper that you saw in sports.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

But my shot looked fresh. It looked good, looked fresh, and it would go in too, but I just wasn't good at basketball. Like if you had me dribbling, no, that wasn't it.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

Jay had umbros on and like um tree torrents and was just launching through the umbros with boxers on, that's rough.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 11:51

Danger. Danger. I don't think that's your best basketball story. We can't we can't empty the clip all right now. Yeah. No, but this overall.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Give me a hint. What is it?

SPEAKER_02 12:02

You were at a famous person's house. Excuse me. All right. Oh, yeah. All right, story time. I think it is. Yeah, I wasn't there. Let's see how Doug tells it. I wasn't there, but he called me in the baseball talk at some point, I promise. He called me immediately afterwards, and he used to go play basketball pretty regularly at Kid Rock's house.

SPEAKER_04 12:21

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 12:21

So he would go out there and play Richie Residence. And so apparently during one of the games, he threw a no-look pass right off Kid Rock's face.

SPEAKER_04 12:31

So I was at the off the heasy with Kid Rock.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

I'm dribbling.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

Kid Rock was a good sport about it.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

Dribbling left-handed. Okay, so down to the right, the block.

SPEAKER_04 12:41

Well, you gotta back up a little bit. How are you playing? Well, I guess this is before Kid Rock's Kid Rock. No, no, no. Yeah, these kids.

SPEAKER_02 12:48

This was after he was really famous. We would drink beer.

SPEAKER_04 12:51

So what year is what year is this? My kids were. I was still thinking this was like 95. He was like late 90s, early 2000s.

SPEAKER_02 12:57

Living out in Clarkston Rich.

SPEAKER_04 12:59

So this is, I mean, this is cowboy 100%, American badass.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

So how did this come about? One of our mutual friends, Pete Fuller, who actually is one of Gwiz's good friends.

SPEAKER_03 13:20

The man who makes this all possible.

SPEAKER_01 13:21

They grew up they're not paying attention. They grew up with uh Uncle Cracker. And Uncle Cracker was with Kid Rock, and Kid Rock had built this like big basketball, like full court.

SPEAKER_04 13:32

As you do when you're rich. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

And he was actually pretty good. And he called his buddies and said, Who wants to come play basketball over here? That's not gonna be a dildo, right? Like, oh my god, I'm at Kid Rock's house, blah blah blah. So we started going there every week, and it was cool. Like we'd be out at the bar, and like he would walk into a bar and he'd say, like, what's up? He wouldn't know who I am today, but he'd say, What's up, Rice? And I felt like freaking really cool. But anyway, so we're playing basketball. I'm dribbling at the top of the key, left-handed, so down to my right, Pete Fuller's ass is wide open on the block. I see it. I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna just do like a bullet, throw it left-handed right to the block, and Kid Rock's face got in the way. And my boys didn't come to like help at all. They all started yelling at me. Like, what the fuck, Rice? What the fuck? Kid Rock's down. But he was actually really cool, and Doug's right. I never never was invited back. We played there like 10 times. And that was the 10th. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully it was coincidental, but yeah, it was it was pretty neat to hear some of the stories. And he was very polite. He was uh a total regular guy.

SPEAKER_04 14:40

All right. Well, I won't get into it. I know Kid Rock, I think he stole my uncle's hat once. Uh before we get into the baseball, let you know our show today is sponsored by the Detroit Thread Company. Detroit Thread Company is a top-servicing embroidery uniform provider in Metro Detroit. They deliver sports embroidery and uniforms for team, schools, organizations, whatever you want, uh, for Kid Rock's pickup basketball game if you'd like. They provide high-quality stitching, custom designs, excuse me, and durable team apparel that stands out on and off the field and if you're killing some rats. Uh, call 866-382-4287 to get your team or organization geared up today. All right, we do have to talk some baseball. Mike, we'll start with you and the Big Ten. Michigan sweeps Northwestern. They needed that. Vaults them up to sixth in the Big Ten standings.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

It was big, man. They're starting to get like more than just regional attention, I think. They're doing um, they're winning games that they're supposed to. So, so game one, it was a 7-6 win, and Kurt Barr is the guy, right, that we all keep hearing about every week. He had a different Kurt Barr kind of night, but you know, people say when aces don't have their great stuff, but they still win, that's what makes them aces. He went five innings with five hits. He actually had five walks this week, but six K's. Um Gavin Devote got the save. Um Colby Turner, same same guys are showing up. Kobe Turner, Braden Jeffries, and Noel Miller all had a few hits. Uh Kobe Turner went yard in game one. Uh game two, the lefty, the infamous lefty, Shane Brynham, who uh who Oakland faced. Remember, we talked about that a couple weeks ago. He won again. He's at four and three. He went five innings with no walks and nine K's. And he's a true freshman. Uh Kobe Turner went two for five. Um new guy, there's a new guy that came out. Maybe we'll ask Coach Stone when we talk to him later, but uh he is uh Jun Sung Park. Okay, Jun Sung Park. How long did you practice that one? It's actually I just sounded it out, it's not too bad. So he probably messed it up. I might have gotten creative like Yonsung Park or something, but like Jun Sung. Yeah, exactly. Well, he went two for three with three RBIs, and one of the kids I mentioned last week or a couple weeks ago that's starting to show up, a local kid from Country Day who ended up going to IMG, but Josh Campbell added two RBIs in game two, so they're won that game eight to three. Um game three, uh, I have in like exclamation points Lally Day. He was uh he's a another local kid. Um he went nine innings. When's the last time you guys heard that? He went nine innings in a college baseball game with one hit baseball, three walks and six K's. There was a ton of really good defense behind him. Um but freak, dude.

SPEAKER_02 18:08

I saw him the weekend before I went and watched part of the Michigan State Michigan game, and Michigan State surprisingly lit him up. He was he was pulled fairly early.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

It was me hitting the mic, not Mike.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

No, you know what, Doug? Michigan's roster is a lot of kids from not not from here.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

So they don't they don't care about the Michigan Michigan State game.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

Yeah, well they don't care, but they're also all all the Michigan State kids are very familiar with Lally, too, right? So that's a lot to be seen.

SPEAKER_04 18:38

Lally did get Big Ten Picture of the Week before that performance.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Yeah, as of like what two hours ago, three hours ago? Recording, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

I was really shocked. I had never seen them play live before. I couldn't believe how small they were. Like I'm a you know, you think about Big Ten players, you think they're gonna be stacked with six foot three guys all over the place. They had a third baseman, it looked like he's no bigger than five five. Yeah, he was good.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

They're bigger though, like when you're on field, it's weird.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

No, like seriously, you go to I guess from the third row, they don't uh No, it is weird.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Like you even go to a you go to a hoop game, and you know how it is when you look at a hoop game and then you go down, especially if you're gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_04 19:13

Well, yeah, because everyone's big. So like if everyone's six foot five, then oh, a six foot two person looks like a midget until you walk up and you go, Oh, you're just very large, dude.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

They're all built like Jay and Jay's fighting days. Like they're kind of like Alex Bregman, Alex Bregman-ish. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Stocky, not so tall guys.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

We like to call it compact. Yeah. And then dense. Michigan, they have the Wait, wait, wait, look at this.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Come on, Jay.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

Come on, Jay. They have the last ten games, they're tied with UCLA nine and one, and they have the longest winning streak out of the big ten, with four tied with Nebraska.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Are they really nine and one?

SPEAKER_03 19:49

Nine and one last one.

SPEAKER_04 19:50

They've been bolting up. What's what what three out of four sweeps or two out of three sweeps? No, they've been big. And one thing, uh, Mike, you brought this up to me. You you texted it to me. I want your guys' opinion on this. They were originally scheduled to play Dayton. They said, no, sorry, Dayton, you're not good enough. We're gonna cancel and schedule Miami over Ohio instead because they're about 150 spots higher in in the RPI rankings, and Michigan's politicking and jockeying for that uh for for that postseason bid. You got your guys' thoughts making uh a schedule change basically the week of for RPI reasons.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

So let me give you a couple more things before you chime in. I didn't realize, remember we were making we kind of make fun of midweeks. This is the theme of the show is like who gives a shit about me midweeks, like the past few weeks. I didn't realize it's important RPI is important in baseball down, especially for Michigan. So that's what they did. They kind of seems like they dumped the team and said we're gonna play a team with a bigger RPI because it's gonna help us to get to the I guess I don't have as big of a problem with it in baseball because they do play so many games.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

It's not like football where you got ten games. Right. You know, basketball, you're in the you know, the twenties.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Doug, you'll remember this, the high school uh team that uh canceled their week nines so they'd get into the playoffs because only had playing eight. Yeah, I don't think you remember that from like six or seven years ago.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

Yeah, they've changed the playoff format several times. So but that was the old one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

So how is it compared? Like you say it's not bad for baseball.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

I don't know. I mean, I feel bad for Dayton, but you know, I don't I don't know that I have a problem with it. I think it's maybe you can make it up to them somehow, but I mean in the contract, if you get paid, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

Did I miss something here? Am I stupid? Did is it they're playing a stronger team?

SPEAKER_04 21:40

Yes, yeah, yeah, because they I like it. But but the thing is you've had that schedule and you kind of you kind of fuck over Yeah, they dumped it yesterday. But but the question is like, hey, if it's a buy game or something, and I'm I I have no idea if they get twenty thousand dollars. If you say here's twenty thousand dollars, you're free on Tuesday now. Yes, I I guess that's that's the way to. Make it good. So they want to power up a little bit. Uh it it all depends on the contract. I don't know. Yeah. I'm sure that they they can't just cancel it and well, I mean, you see it in football with much bigger numbers. It'll be like Michigan has canceled their series in 2031 with UTEP. They're gonna pay them the $350,000 or whatever. So Dayton's Dayton's a 195 RPI.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Yeah. And Miami of Ohio is a 53. And I think Michigan's like 47. Michigan might get an at-large this year.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

I think Dayton's just got to kind of understand under those circumstances that hey, we're not doing this to screw you over, but we need help to get in. And you know, I don't know how you make it out to home, but.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Tracy Smith came from Miami of Ohio, the head coach at Michigan, so there's some I'm getting a let's move on look from Brady.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

Uh, because we have a lot to talk about. Michigan State had a nice weekend. They go out to Seattle and take two or three from UW, the first Big Ten team to go out west and do that.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

I know. Can you believe that?

SPEAKER_04 23:04

Yeah, because UW's been around what, two seasons now.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

Yeah, but it was still cool. It was still.

SPEAKER_04 23:09

Oh no, it's cool, but it's not like the most unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

So state had a midweek last week, and you'll you might talk about it when you're up, but they they lost to Oakland. So Oakland's taking down the two uh Michigan teams. So game one, did you guys notice?

SPEAKER_02 23:27

You guys probably don't by the way, University of Washington, one of the nicest campuses you could ever go to. Mike used to live in Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

Oh boy, here this is another story. What? I never knew that.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Yeah, Mike lived in Seattle for a few years. One year actually, 2002. I guess it felt longer, but whatever.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

I missed you so much.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

So I uh I was on break at school, so I he was he was struggling out there, so I I flew out there to go hang out.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

It was me, my wife, and my one-year-old daughter at the time, Casey. Struggle is not the word. I was fucking dying inside.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

So I I went out there and but he was still working. So during the day, I would go take his wife's car and goes just go get lost. And go like one day I went up to Vancouver because it's only two hours away. Oh yeah. So I I go to the University of Washington. I'm like, I'm gonna go walk the campus. It was a beautiful campus, and I go and I I go and I laughed about no yoga pants in 2003. For them to go walk the campus. Just listening.

SPEAKER_04 24:28

He said walk the campus. Jay perked up like a like a gopher out of a hole, just huh?

SPEAKER_02 24:34

No, I I literally just and walked walked the campus, but um at some point, actually, I don't know if it was there or actually in downtown Seattle. I I thought paying the meters was more of a suggestion than a requirement.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

We're suburb guys, we're not used to like staying downtown. No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 24:56

You guys live like you grew up what 15 miles from Detroit? I went to school in Detroit.

SPEAKER_03 25:02

No, I grew up in Detroit.

SPEAKER_04 25:03

Yeah, like now. I got about 20 way to stay.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

It's just shitty.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

So I grew up in Port Hero and I knew that. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

So I get shitty tickets. I get it, I get a parking ticket and I'm like on his wife's yeah, yeah, but I thought, well, I'm not coming back to Seattle, so I don't need to pay this.

SPEAKER_04 25:19

So I was like, not realizing it goes to the car, not the person.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

He calls me like three months later.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

By the way, I had like eight dollars. At that age, I think I had like eight bucks totally.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

So he calls me, he's like, Did you get a parking ticket with Sherry's car? I go, Oh yeah, forgot about that. I probably owed you now $700.

SPEAKER_04 25:42

Yeah. It's delinquent fees. The city of Seattle's knocking down my door, they're taking my kid away. What a great city, though. That was a lot of fun to hang out.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

I totally forgot about that. Yeah, we went and watched the Sonic, we watched the Seattle Supersonics game.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

Did you throw fish?

SPEAKER_02 25:55

I was we went down there. I did go down Pike Street Market. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

Yeah. Anyway, Michigan State went out there and got a couple wins.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

They did. They they won two out of three. Did you notice who did not start game one? Yeah, they threw up. That was it wasn't for UCLA, but what a funny coincidence. Like no one's listening and going, yeah, that's a good idea, but they state did not start their ace. They kind of threw off a little bit. So Donovan actually started game two. So game one, they won six to four. Uh JD Greeley was a guy I wasn't familiar with. He pitched really well. He went three and a third, three hits and zero runs. And the winning pitcher was a kid named Nolan Higgins. Have you ever seen him? Number 41.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

No.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Dude, he was like 94-95. Just bringing heat. I think he's a St. Mary's kid, too, local kid.

SPEAKER_04 26:48

Um that's a pretty good guess, if not.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Yeah, but I just I have in quotes big fella, comp is John Lackey. Google John Lackey, they were the same number, but uh that was a question.

SPEAKER_04 26:59

Big fella. Yeah, big fella. Uh he was a good old Jim Price scouting report.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

He went two and a third. He gave up one hit, zero walks, and five K's. And dude, he was freaking bringing it. 94 90. Everyone says kids throw 94-95, but when you're seeing it consistently live in a game, that's pretty nice.

SPEAKER_04 27:18

That means he can probably top out 96, 97.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

And Noah Bright, a kid that's was kind of like on and off again with the lineup, is kind of cementing himself back in the lineup. He went yard in game one. Um, I got another note uh I wrote, he's back in quotes. It's Parker Pico, local kid that went to Alabama and he came back to Michigan State. He went three for four with a homer and uh two ribbies. Good quarterback at Rochester Adams. Was he? Yeah, yeah, we know he's a good athlete and he can run and he's built, he's he's a built on.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

There were I think there were a couple Pico's on those Rochester Adams teams.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Yeah, dude, I kind of do remember that. But he he's a stud. He was he was at, like I said, at Bama. He's playing right field and he's super athletic. Um game two, they won 13-8 with my boy Aiden Donovan on the hill. He actually he got the win. He gave up a little more runs, a couple more walks than usual, but he went six and two-thirds with three K's. And lefty uh Bobby Crane from U University of Detroit uh Jesuit high school. Two and a third with two K's. Randy Seymour went off. He went three for six with two homers and five RBIs. I think he's had a couple, two homers.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

Is that Crane kid, the kid I saw pitch?

SPEAKER_01 28:31

Yeah, yeah. He's got all that arm side run, bunch of tail. So he's a bunch of tail on the pitch. He's got a throw.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

I stood behind the catcher while he was throwing, and I was like, holy cow, how do you hit this? I mean, it was like breaking, every pitch was going breaking this far.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

Yeah, he's not straight over the top, and he he's been getting little chances throughout the year, and now it seems like he's a part of it. It's funny watching state so much this year. You said I was gonna be biased at the beginning of the year here when we're talking about it. I don't know, I guess it's biased, but like I've been watching them more than I ever have. And I'm watching what Jake Boss is doing. He's just kind of putting kids in, taking kids out, and kind of seeing where they're gonna end up. And I think Bobby Crane's one of those kids that at the beginning of the year, I was like, fuck man, I wish he would pitch more. I know he's dirty and he's kind of cemented his way in there. So Randy Seymour went yard went nuts again. Three for six with two homers, five RBIs, RBIs. Noah Bright had three RBIs, Nick Williams had three RBIs, Isaac Sturgis went three for five, and Kamari Thomas is either DHing or playing outfield, and you can't take you he you can't get rid of the guy. He's batting three forty something, uh, and he just keeps hitting. So he's he's a an outfielder that that can swing the bat. Um do you have something?

SPEAKER_04 29:48

I was just gonna say the series was big for them to stay in the chance for a Big Ten tournament. Yeah, this is what they needed to do.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

I'm hoping we're gonna go through that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

I think you had home run the game I went to.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

You did. He did. Um game three loss eight to five. Nothing nothing crazy to report, but winning two out of three, man.

SPEAKER_04 30:06

At a place that's been a tough spot for anyone to go to.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

And I loved the feeling as a fan now. Like I'm a Michigan fan more than anything just growing up. But Michigan State, I've been I'm a base, I love Jake. I've always been a fan of Jake Boss, how he's run his program, and it's it was cool to have those two wins in their pocket and say, holy cow, can we let's see if they can sweep this thing out. So I I made a couple player-to-watch updates. I know this gets long, but I'll be quick. But Randy Seymour is at 283 on the season, 14 homers, 41 RBIs. Isaac Sturgis is batting 326 with three homers and 23 RBIs. Kamari Thomas, the kid that I just brought up, he's batting 343 with 36 hits, and then Aiden Donovan's at 3-2 with a 353 ERA. Nobrowski mentioned? Broski, his receiving has been getting better and better as I'm watching. I think he's getting a little pull heavy. But what do you got? Well, you give me a look. Broski or Broski? Wasn't that his parents that we were talking to at the hotel? Oh, yeah, you weren't here last week. I wasn't here.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

So the weekend before we were hanging. I happen to be up in Lansing coincidentally with my son.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

It was a coincidence. Everyone thinks we lied, like, so we can hang out.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

It was a total coincidence. I had to go up to Lansing for a soccer game, and he was going up to watch his nephew play. And so I said, all right, well, I'll just stay at the same hotel. And then some of the other parents from the Michigan State team was on there, and we were hanging out with Broski's parents, and Broski's mom uh was adamant that he got his athletic ability from her.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

Oh my gosh, it was freaking hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

When does State play UCLA? Maybe not this weekend, but next weekend.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

We're going, I'm going to that.

SPEAKER_04 31:48

I got this feeling too. I wanted to. Oh, it's at uh it's in land. Okay. For a second I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Another road trip for I'm going. Now you're gonna have to blow through the Mac.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

Well, Western and Eastern played, and the big question I had Western takes two or three from Eastern, but the Mac is so jumbled at the front. Is that almost a bad series win where they needed a sweep? Because coming into the weekend, Western was 12 and 6, Eastern was five and thirteen. Is that a series you have to sweep? Like you come away, you won a series, and you're thinking, man, we should have done more. It's it's so hard to sweep.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

I know the sport. But yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 32:29

Like, if you're gonna win a championship and it doesn't matter, Mike, if you're at Cardinal Mooney or you're here, the the top teams, they just they beat, they beat up the bottom teams. They get fat on the on the bottom third of a of a of the standings.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

I still think taking two out of three is getting fat. I really do. I mean, it's it's you're gonna have an ace, you're gonna have a guy like the their loss was uh John Carmichael pitched for for Eastern. He went six innings with one walk and seven K's. And they had they had a kid hit a three-run jack too for Eastern. Tristan Crane from Brother Rice hit a three-run jack.

SPEAKER_04 33:06

No, and I know Eastern's been battling, they're trying to figure some things out, but in like if you want to get the one seed and you want to win a regular season title, you don't want to look back and go, oh man, we only took two of three from the 11th place team in the league.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

Jay, we're do you have the Mac up right now? I got it up right here.

SPEAKER_04 33:24

So Kent State's 15-6.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

That's this weekend, coming weekend, right?

SPEAKER_04 33:28

And then Miami, Northern Illinois, and Western are all 14 and 7. Ball State and Toledo are 13 and 8. The math, the Mac is a fucking bloodbath.

SPEAKER_05 33:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:39

And that's the difference between, you know, if you get a sweep, you're tied for first. Instead, you're one of three teams tied for second and could potentially be the four seed. So what what's I'm not saying like Western's bad. I'm just saying, like, is that one you look back on and go, man, they should have. I know they will.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

Spinning wheel, spinning wheel.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

Oh, yeah, the Wi-Fi's been spinning wheel. Um what's what's Kent State's record? Uh overall, 28 and 20. No, a conference. 15 and 6. So they're a game up. Um Central did take two or three from Ohio. Ohio's near the bottom. Central. They're starting to pitch. They are, but they have they're still four games back of making the tournament, with I think four weeks. Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

That's uh they're not they're not even on the city.

SPEAKER_04 34:23

Well, because all those teams, it's it's a top half and a bottom half in this league.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:27

So no, they are starting to pitch a little more, but again, Ohio is right now 8-30 on the year. That's one that if you wanted to make up some ground.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

I said it last week, I was hoping for a sweep. I was I was.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

Um any standouts from that one?

SPEAKER_01 34:42

The week, the the overall stats, yeah. I mean, there is. Cole Prout is tearing it up. I had a little note here. He was batting 227 on April 1st. He's up to 295 right now. And he's not a guy that has like just a couple of bats where he gets a quick jump. He's got uh seven homers, 40 RBIs, and nine doubles. Uh Harrison Bowman is a guy for them. He's batting 347. That's the CMU guys. Um and they they got Oakland next week, so I might I might head out there and watch uh Well, it would have been played by the time you hear this, but yeah. Yeah, well, either way, I can I can't go out there. I'm gonna go out there and see.

SPEAKER_04 35:18

All right, well, I'll see you there. Um, speaking of Oakland, guys, I need you to help me with this. So, like Mike said, they've beaten Michigan. They've beaten Michigan State. It kind of got pummeled by Youngstown State. Like they got beat up. They gave up 13 runs and 16 runs in the first two games of this.

SPEAKER_01 35:37

How many runs do they score? Did Oakland score?

SPEAKER_04 35:40

It wasn't. I can't I'll pull it up.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Jake, you pull up Oakland's baseball schedule after that. How did my boy Ben Green do?

SPEAKER_01 35:46

He's he's the only one. All right. He's fine just fine. Honestly, just fine. He's the only one like right now that it's a real ball game where like if you play the game, you can't. So why don't they move him up?

SPEAKER_04 35:58

Here's the number that is not great. The team ERA for the season is 869.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:07

That's a I mean, that's basically a run and inning. And and that they have some really nice offensive pieces. It's just, you know, because okay, the midweek against Toledo, they played really well. They beat Michigan, they beat Michigan State. And Mike, I you know, I was the one saying midweeks matter, but I feel like you have to validate the midweeks with in-conference performance. And they started off Horizon League play. I think they took two or three down at Youngstown State. They got a game at Wright State, and it's they just can't find pitching right now. I think they've given up nine plus uh runs in six of the last eight games. Yeah. Including a game against Rochester where they gave up 13.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

Well, I remember earlier in the year they were having defensive problems. Yeah. Has that now just moved over to pitching problems? It's probably a combo meal.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:58

Like probably one of those things where you know You don't give a guy an error, but a better player might make a play.

SPEAKER_04 37:04

Yeah. Or yeah, you don't get that bailout play that you know you you miss a pitch and a guy smokes one in the gap, and you can't get bailed out by a guy running it down.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

They can really hit. That's why I want to know how many runs they score because if they can score Wi-Fi working at all. I got it.

SPEAKER_04 37:19

Okay. So the last like five games, yeah. How many runs have they put up?

SPEAKER_03 37:23

Oh Oakland. So the first game against Youngstown, Oakland put up 12. Yeah. Second game, two, third game four.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Oh shit. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 37:34

Yeah. So I it's they're frustrating because you see the glimpses, yep, but the consistency's not there. Uh all right. Let's go to the Gliak. Uh, Davenport had the week off of league play. Um, so again, seven team leagues, someone's got to have it off. Uh Grand Valley takes three of four from Saginaw Valley.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

Uh that was huge for Grand Valley.

SPEAKER_04 37:57

Yes and no. Um, because right now, Wayne State and Grand Valley have literally mirrored each other in every series that they've with common opponents. Uh, real quick for Saginaw Valley, it was Jack Decker, who went six in a third innings of shutout baseball in the win for Saginaw Valley. Uh, but Grand Valley, it was a lot of the same names you've had.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

Jack Decker is now being recruited by me for the US PBL. He's a dude.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

You're you're open. Is that tampering? Did you just get to tampering over?

SPEAKER_01 38:26

He has nowhere else to go. He's after he's done this year at Saginaw. I mean, if he gets drafted, he gets drafted, but I want him in the US PBL. So what I wanted to ask is. Maybe it is tampering. I'm saying it out loud. Yeah, and it'll be a good one. Well, you'd be tampering. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Well, I mean tampering.

SPEAKER_04 38:42

I guess that's just a very low-stakes version of an agent talking to a college football player saying, like, oh, hey.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

These kids all have like um advisors now.

SPEAKER_04 38:52

Yeah, so go talk to the advisor. Anyway, what I wanted to ask you guys this is a debate that comes up. I'm firmly on one side. So, like, with player of the year or MVP, should pitchers be eligible for this?

SPEAKER_03 39:06

I don't see why not. I don't know. I don't see why not. I mean, it would have to be if they earned it, why not?

SPEAKER_02 39:15

Do you got one to name to give us suggestions? I'm going somewhere with it. I don't know. It's tough. You'd have to have uh a remarkable year.

SPEAKER_03 39:24

Yeah, so it has to be the pitchers win the MVP in the pros.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

It happens when Willie Hernandez. If you have an outstanding. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

So did Aiden Carol Aiden Caroldin might have won it years ago.

SPEAKER_04 39:40

So where I'm going with Aiden Carold, Ryan Carroll. Yeah, Aiden's the younger brother. Um, where I'm going with this is Colin Bradley for Grand Valley had a seven-inning complete game victory. Uh, for the season, he's eight and oh. 63 and two-thirds innings pitched. He's given up 44 hits, but again, in 63 plus innings, he's walked nine batters. Wow. He struck out 41. His ERA right now is 1.27, and his whip is 0.83. That's impressive.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

I mean. Those guys can all hit in the Gleash.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Now, he still has to pitch against uh Davenport, who's usually a pretty good hitting team. Roll tidy. But even if they give up, he has a bad game, okay. His ERA's 1.7 with a whip of nine point nine or one. Doug and I have our own vote.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Well, first of all, I'm I can't vote because I'm super biased because I have somebody else who's the play active. But this isn't even a bias.

SPEAKER_03 40:42

There are some other sisters, boyfriends, friends. Yes. There are some others. So a couple others if you look.

SPEAKER_04 40:48

If you look on Grand Valley, uh Evan Morrison, he's hitting 423 with four bombs, 30 RBIs, OPS of just under 1.1. Caleb Estrada, who hits third in that lineup, hitting 400 with 12 bombs, uh, an OPS of 1.5, 1.157. And then uh Drew Hill for Wayne State. I mean, he's been on a tear. He's hitting 438 with nine bombs. Uh how many at 45? 43. I don't have at bat. Oh, 175 at bat.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

And he's batting what?

SPEAKER_04 41:18

438.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

I looked it up today.

SPEAKER_04 41:20

43 ribbies, a 1.277 OPS.

SPEAKER_02 41:24

Yesterday he went in the second game, he went two for three with two bombs.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

Your guys is biased hill.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:30

Yeah, but he he I like his dad too. I I don't know. Yeah, he's I don't know. I can't remember. We talked so much. I don't remember if we talked about this on the last show, but it it looks like he's playing fucking wiffle ball. Yeah. Did I say that already on the show?

SPEAKER_02 41:44

We went and watched him play Mike and I went to the game. The game where we went to the Grand Band of the game. Yeah. He was hurt. He could barely run. And he still hits a new one. He went three for four, hit a double, and then put one across the street at Wayne State.

SPEAKER_01 41:58

Was he running last week? He's good. He's good.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

Give that kid a hernia, probably hit more bombs.

SPEAKER_01 42:03

Why'd you say that?

SPEAKER_03 42:05

This is Papa. But as a hernia. For like seven-year hernia. Seven.

SPEAKER_05 42:14

Sorry, Jay.

SPEAKER_03 42:14

Jay hernia.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Jay is a walking hernia.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

Just remember, next time I see you, I'm gonna rub it.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

How does that work? Any idea how that works? What? Like with MVPs and player of the year and all that? Like, how does what work? Like, do they do the coaching things?

SPEAKER_04 42:31

I don't know if the coaches or the sides, I'm sure they do, but uh, you know, like Buck Snaps from Saginaw is probably in there as well. I know Davenport, I'm trying to load up their thing, but again, the internet's been around. Well, we know a guy or two. Uh I don't know if we'll know by tournament time, I think. But are you gonna let the people know? But I will. That there's not a wrong answer, there's just a more right.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

What year is that pitcher for granted for Grand Valley?

SPEAKER_04 42:58

I believe a senior. He was a GRCC kid. Uh really came through. Mike Eddington guy. Yeah. Um real quick, Wayne State swept Roosevelt. Roosevelt just sucks. Wayne State put up a 13 piece in the third inning of game one. I'm assuming four. Yeah. Four. Yeah. So they did their job with because they needed to keep pace with Grand Valley. They gain a game back. Uh, they have one more series against Purdue Northwest, while Grand Valley still has to play Davenport and Parkside. Most likely path if Wayne State wants to catch Grand Valley, is they have to sweep Purdue Northwest. Davenport splits with Grand Valley, and Parkside can steal one. It's it would be the exact same Gliak schedule as Wayne State had. So uh that's the Gliak in the G Mac. Uh, Northwood took three of four from Lake Erie. They're bad. Northwood scored 53 runs in the series. I love it. That's a lot. Uh Caden DeRea had six RBIs in game one of that one. He was the one that stood out. Uh, Jay, can you look up Hill? Hillsdale Shocker split the first two against uh I believe Ohio Dominican and they were playing the other two today. So look up Hillsdale. Yeah, Hillsdale. Uh because when I was going through it, uh there wasn't, I mean, obviously, we were waiting for the games today being Monday when we're recording. So Splitsdale is continuing. We'll see if they do it in the back half. But no, Northwood and Hillsdale are just kind of middle there. I will say Hillsdale in their midweek came came back from a six-run deficit to beat Wayne State. That was a nice win for them.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 44:32

Yeah. They're actually playing the at Wayne State the Tuesday uh of this week. So as we go through that, I know D3, uh there just wasn't a lot, was there?

SPEAKER_02 44:45

It was tough with all the postponements, but before I get to that. So I knew I wasn't gonna be here last week. And I are you getting rid of the shit?

SPEAKER_03 44:55

I am Diatribe coming.

SPEAKER_02 44:57

I no, I spent like two hours putting notes together so you guys could talk about DC. You still have them with you? And JUCO guys, and then as soon as the podcast came out, I'm like, I'm gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_01 45:08

Yeah. You know what's funny about that? Zero. All right, no, zero real quick.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

And on top of the point that I thought.

SPEAKER_03 45:14

Thanks for all your hard work, Doug.

SPEAKER_02 45:16

I actually, because I had some internet issues and whatnot, I actually texted all the coaches and asked them. So they all text me information, including Rick Smith. Okay. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 45:25

So first of all, Rick Smith the guy who coaches at Henry Ford? No, no, okay.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

That's at Jackson. First of all, fuck off. I mean because I had to pay an $85 ticket 30 years ago. It's probably 30. The other thing is that's on me. It's not on Brady. I got a text from Tommy Nahas, our producer. He goes, like right after Doug goes, thanks, guys. He goes, How the fuck would Doug even know? Because it was like three seconds after he sent us like the download. Yeah, there was two way.

SPEAKER_03 45:58

No, dummy dummy.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

Dummy just fast forwards his part. Fast forwarded right to it. But no, that was totally on me. I was stuck in Vegas. Sherry was probably hammered running around down, gambling all of my money away, our money away. So I wanted to get out of there and go. So I'm right here.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

I want to I want to apologize to all the coaches that took the time to text me and nothing got done with it. I really appreciated all the time.

SPEAKER_04 46:24

I knew all the information. I just yeah, he was about to read it. Yeah, and Mike just goes, Oh, I gotta work me in 10 minutes. Like, okay, thanks, Mike. So all right. So but yeah, yes, it was very difficult.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

There was a lot of games postponed, a lot of games didn't play. A couple of teams only played a couple of games, and and I'll be honest with you, it it was just hard. I'm always trying to find something to talk about some of the kids for it. But I mean, did you get anything from Carney Olivet? He's the only one I talked about because uh before I'll just say it now. He went eight innings, zero runs, eighteen K's. Dude. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:57

Set set what? The Olivet single game record, it put him over the single season record and also the career record in one game.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

I think it's awesome, dude. I've said this, I say this every week, but like their coach is such a great guy, and he deserves to have to have a guy like that that can be a showstopper, and Jay Hill trained him. So Doug's.

SPEAKER_04 47:26

It's when you break three records in one game. Assuming he's 21.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

18 plays in eight innings? Yeah. Jeez. Jay, can you even do that math? No. It's more than two. I'm not even gonna try it. It's more than two in inning. I mean, there's only 24 out of the house. 75% inning out. So three out of every four outs. Okay, we don't need you guys to be all fucking smart. I was just trying to make fun of Jay.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

It's okay. Jay smart at your back. I know. Father fig.

SPEAKER_02 47:51

But I was able to get some. Unfortunately, because of that, uh, I had nothing to talk about for Albion. So you can I feel bad, but there was I'm just looking everybody's Ofer and the pitcher gave up a hundred runs. It was just one of the things. Well, that was against Albion.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

That was the oh geez.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

So if you want to go ahead with some of the other uh Well, I was just gonna say go on because I was gonna talk about Kalmazou because I think I'm gonna make a bold statement.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

We gotta get Coach Ott on the show and hear what the hell's going on.

SPEAKER_02 48:18

If you can learn how to do an interview, maybe. True. They're seven hours long, dude. Ask four questions. No, they're good. The one we don't want to ask four questions and it went an hour. Jesus Christ, we got coaches telling us about what they did in seventh grade.

SPEAKER_01 48:34

I love that you have we have one interview like that, and Doug loses his shit.

SPEAKER_02 48:40

Um for I had some kids for Kalamazoo. I want to talk about Robert Newland for and this was their last series. Five of thirteen, one triple, one home run. Kate pressing again, fourth for 13 with uh three doubles, and uh Robert Algren with seven innings, four uh four runs and fifteen K's.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

That's a geez, dude.

SPEAKER_04 48:59

There you get some pretty good performances, especially the D3 Oh my goodness, Juco levels.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

You said last week that they're like national contenders.

SPEAKER_04 49:09

I mean they're 28 and 4. Yeah can you pull up the D3 baseball pole, Jay? I bet you they're top 10. Just Google. Who is it? Kalamazoo. Yeah, Kalmazoo. They it was actually a split, which was Yeah, that was a little shocking.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

Did El what did Elma do last week?

SPEAKER_04 49:27

Uh what did they do, Jay? They took two from Calvin. Or sorry, Doc. Yeah, I'm on to another thing. But yeah, honestly, Kalmazou losing once to Hope, who's 10 and 23 now. That's kind of uh uh uh oopsie.

SPEAKER_01 49:41

I'm hoping Hope will turn it around. They got beautiful field, great staff.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

I had a couple kids from Hope. Uh Cade Seaball went five of thirteen, two doubles, one triple. Brendan Collins, five of thirteen, two doubles, one triple. And Owen Weber went eight innings and six games.

SPEAKER_04 49:58

All right. And they're win. And then the only other action, uh, you talked about Al that uh Alma beating Cal taking two from Calvin. Did we mention that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:08

Yeah, so uh for Alma, I had Alexander Kavlick went five of ten with one uh double. Dakota kid. Jay's favorite, Giuseppe Sapienza, which went three of eight with two homers and seven RBIs. Hey, Giuseppe! Because he he only played that was only in two games. Um Cole Grunwald went six innings, two runs, ten K's. And for Calvin, I gotta slow down so I say it right. Uh oh. Do it, do it. The boner. The boner's up. Uh-oh. Gabe Bonamer. Bonimer. Bonamer. Boner. Four of eight.

SPEAKER_05 50:42

That's not.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

That sounds so good. It is great. Thomas Papl Poploski went two of seven, one triple one home run. Brady Sager had four innings, zero runs, and seven Ks.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

No? Jay, we don't even need to talk. He's not related. No, okay. I was wondering.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

I was wondering. All right. Uh, did you get the D3 poll? Yeah, so they're ranked number nine, the coach's poll, regional rank number two. Who's ahead of them in the regional? I don't have any of that. I just looked up them. All right.

SPEAKER_02 51:08

And then there was one other team we didn't talk about, Adrian. Um let me see the regional. They uh I had three guys. Rolando Jimenez went eight of twelve, Gabe Jones went seven eleven, and uh Parker Ferris went seven innings, zero runs, nine Ks.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

And that was uh over a sweep of trying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:26

We're rooting for Adrian, right? I mean they've got a really good record. Friend of the show.

SPEAKER_04 51:30

I mean, uh everyone's a friend of the show. Yeah. Mike's just openly saying, so we're biased. Uh well, if you're playing Adrian, you can fuck off then.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

D3 baseball in Michigan is at its best when Adrian's at their best. I don't know. Kalamazoo's pretty damn good. Kalamazoo is doing great. I'm just saying we want Adrian to be up there with him.

SPEAKER_04 51:50

All right. Uh let's go to NAIA. Again, not a ton of action. Um and it's Doug's just gonna leave now, by the way. No, he's still got Juco. I got Juco. Northwest Ohio and Indiana Tech area. Can we start calling him Uno?

SPEAKER_01 52:05

Start calling him Uno. That's what people call him.

SPEAKER_04 52:07

Just Dennison is University of Northern Ohio. Like Northwest Ohio, it's listed as Northwest Ohio. Is it really? It's Uno.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

Dennison. Dennison's ahead of Kalamazoo in the regional. Thanks, Jay. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_04 52:25

So, all right, anyway. He's always got to finish his donor did split with Northwest Ohio, swept Sienna Heights. Uh, they had um in one of the win over Northwest Ohio, uh, Ty Stepett, Cooper Etheridge, and of course a pop-up shows up. Uh, Gus Simon all homered for Madonna in the win. Uh Amir Mitchell had a couple more home runs against Sienna Heights. Now has 20 on the year. Let's go. That is badass. But here's the crazy part. He's 12 off the national leader. Wow. Yeah. I mean, that's 32 home runs in probably 35 games right now.

SPEAKER_01 53:02

Do you can you get their stats easily, Madonna's? I mean, yeah. Why? I want to see what Stepek's doing. All right. J look it up. You want to try it, Jay? I'm doing it. Madonna baseball.

SPEAKER_04 53:14

No, they got that. It was nice that they split with Northwest Ohio. We'll say it when we're on to the uh Jose.

SPEAKER_03 53:20

They're just uh watch the Rogan podcast. The guy comes out later, he goes, And here's the stat that you're looking for. His name's Jamie.

SPEAKER_04 53:27

So as you look for that, I'll let you know that Aquinas swept uh Sienna Heights and Rochester Christian, uh took care of business. Uh the one name that just kept popping up when I was looking through the box scores was Austin Alkenbrack. Uh from where? From uh Aquinas. Okay. Just had a couple really consistent days. He didn't have like one giant one. It was just like, oh, two hits here. Oh, two hits in an RBI, hit an RBI, two walks. Like it was just seemed like he had a really good weekend there. Um Cleary swept Lords. Uh, I'm gonna give credit to U of M Dearborn because they were able to get a win out of the the series with Cleary. But Cleary needed a sweep there. Like, I if I'm gonna give Western shit, if I'm gonna give some of these teams that needed to sweep and didn't, Cleary's gonna have to fall in there because they're kind of battling for our seeding in that whack tournament, and a loss there is gonna bring you down a little bit. I'd like to find out where that tournament is. I wonder if I wonder if they do a site. They do that. I think so.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

Um you had um Stepic? Yeah. So what do you want to know about him?

SPEAKER_01 54:34

How many at bats does he have? No, seriously, because I think he was hurt. I want to see he's a he's a dude, and I just want to see if if he's one of those. At bats 141. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

333 average. Yeah. Good. OBS 1,056.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

Nice, much better than Riley Green.

SPEAKER_04 54:51

Pretty good. Um uh Max uh Granistearn. I probably messed that up. He had a grand slam for U of M Dearborn in the win over Cleary. So, I mean, that's a that's a big uh big blow.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

Let's get to JUCO because I just thought about what you and I talked about earlier. That I want these guys to chime in on.

SPEAKER_04 55:10

Well, real quick, I got a couple. I have to let you know that you know Rochester Christian swept uh Lawrence Tech and Did they really? Yeah. No, uh Rochester isn't terrible.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

No, I went I went to the I went to the first three innings in that game, and you're right. They have some players, they got a big catcher that can hit tanks.

SPEAKER_04 55:30

So this is the first of two, this was a randomly generated name, the most generic names. Kenny or sorry, Lance Jones with a complete game victory. Lance. Lance Jones is something. No, Lance is Lance. Wait, what? What did you think? What in the world would it be short for? I don't know. Like, how do you tell like Larry? Like Larry and Lawrence, like Lance could be Lance. Like you, but you know right away. Like it's you answered your own question. Lance is a little bit more. Is Lance short for something?

SPEAKER_01 56:03

I don't know. I mean, Lance something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 56:06

We are all for Lance. Lance is still an old.

SPEAKER_01 56:08

So what about when Lance was like four? And you go, this is my son Lance.

SPEAKER_03 56:13

What if he's a baby and you named him Lance? Baby Lance right there. Lance is cool. That's old school. But it's a baby marker.

SPEAKER_01 56:21

That's oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:22

It's just baby. Or just wanted to name him Lance. Yeah. It's uh it's not, it's like it's not an uncommon name. No, Lance is actually a good name. Name another one besides Lance Parish. Lance Campbell. Shout out Croslux. Yeah, I don't know any other. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:36

Lance Parish. Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 56:40

Good call.

SPEAKER_05 56:42

Good job.

SPEAKER_00 56:42

All right.

SPEAKER_03 56:42

So anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:44

Bye, bye, bye. Can't say that.

SPEAKER_03 56:46

You have to pay for it. Don't do it. Hummet. He can't even hum it.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

I'm sure the 32 people that watch this are not going to don't even hum it. Are not going to pass that along.

SPEAKER_04 57:01

Is that the same group?

SPEAKER_01 57:02

Sorry. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 57:03

The back half of the generic names that did well on the mound uh for Lawrence Tech when they swept Cornerstone, Kenny Wright with a complete game shutout for Lawrence Tech in the win. Ty Shornak and Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

It's that time.

SPEAKER_04 57:18

Kenny Wright sounds like a guy that could whip your ass, though, doesn't it? Ty Shornak, three hits, three RBIs with a bomb on the win. And I I want to make sure I don't mess this one up because this could add to our uh Siemen and Boner uh mess ups. Ty. Jeez. Ty, or sorry, Luke. It's one 29-year-old adult with three 50-year-old children. Weinberger uh with five RBIs. All right. So Wiener.

SPEAKER_03 57:48

Like that's I just wanted to make sure. This newer generation's more mature than we are.

SPEAKER_04 57:52

Ethan Hawkendone with a complete game. Uh 12K one walk win versus Cornerstone as well. So Lawrence Tech had a couple of good pitching performances. Lance Tech. No, that's Rochester. Lance is at Rochester. Got it. Pay attention. It'll be a quiz. The Lancers. Okay. So let's go to the MCCAA East, where it's a two-team race now. Start with McComb. They took three or four from the oscillates of Schoolcraft.

SPEAKER_02 58:18

Back talking about my boy Marwin Matthews Jr., five of thirteen, uh, one double, one triple, two stolen bases. Zach Grindy, four of eleven with two homers, and uh Jonathan Miette. I think that's the only way to do it. You could play Mietti, but whatever. Six innings, zero runs, six Ks.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

I don't think it's Miet. I think it's either Miet or Miette, but he's a frickin' guy. He throws frickin' hard.

SPEAKER_04 58:43

So yeah, they take three of four. Um, yeah, they're battling with Jackson, who also took three of four, and again, I go back to it, that's gonna be the theme, trying to get the sweep because you know Schoolcraft and SC4 are better, and I think the floor of the East has been risen up a bit. Yeah. But if one of them can get the sweep, now you have a game up, but Jackson takes three or four from Doug Skippers.

SPEAKER_02 59:05

Uh for the Skippers, I I only have one name. Some of it is just some of these Yukos teams just are have terrible websites. Uh but Drew Hosterman Hosterman had a really good two games. Six of eight, two uh two doubles and a home run. Another Croslex kid. Another Crosslex.

SPEAKER_01 59:26

They have a good baseball program sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

Yeah, they've they've had a few kids. Um and for Jackson, Sebastian Nelson, six of eleven, two doubles. Jack Hindenberg, who I've mentioned several times, six of fourteen with two doubles, and uh Luke Mikkenick, uh seven innings, nine K's.

SPEAKER_04 59:43

Alright, and then uh for Jackson, was there any standouts for them in the Where are we at in the standings?

SPEAKER_03 59:51

Both of them were tied 12 and 5 in the confidence.

SPEAKER_04 59:53

And they're what, four games up to the next closest?

SPEAKER_03 59:56

Yeah, eight and seven, Henry and four. Henry and Ford. Henry Ford, yeah, eight and seven. Mott community, eight and seven.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:05

Um they were supposed to play today. Did you have anything? Wow, did you ever give me the Hillsdale score?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

No, we got we got tank in the way. He moved on.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:14

So he'll still move on. Ah, Hillsdale can be a good one.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:17

While he's looking stuff up, uh Henry Ford, I had Eddie Sane had uh a double and a triple. Emmanuel Gutierrez had a homer. Hunter Witt went five innings, zero runs, 10Ks.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:29

Which high school is it? Which which high school around here is Maroon? Henry Ford?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:34

Warren Mott? No. Warren Mott. No, but Henry Ford is a good one. Henry Ford.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:38

That's that's where he's from. Yeah, he's from.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:40

I love that Mike just knows high schools by colors.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:42

Yeah, I'm bad with I'm bad with the Utica community schools. I get them Henry Ford and then Utica Ford. Utica and Ike. No, I got those. Henry Ford is the Falcons. Yeah. Correct. And Utica's the Chieftains.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:56

Which game did you want for Hillsdale? The ones that were today.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:59

Like live. It's probably live.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:00

Well, one probably already happened. So just keep going.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:03

One happened already. Yeah. And it looks like. So they're playing Rochester. They played yesterday. So one game's already done. They lost. It looks like six to four and seven to four. Against uh Ohio Dominican or University of Finley.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:17

Oh, Finlay. The other Orange Black. So the next game's gonna fall. Well, congrats, they're gonna win the second game anyway. Yeah, because they're Scottville.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

For Mott, uh I only had Connor Sweeney got the win versus Henry Ford. Um, and lastly with Schoolcraft, uh Sean Eatman went six of fifteen, one double, one home run. Lucas Clun went five innings, one run, five K's, and Andrew Frederick went four innings, two runs and three K's.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:41

All right, uh, look up the Mott and Henry Ford game today.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

Damn, Jay.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

Go to Mott Community College because Henry Ford's website is an abomination. Yes, good job, Doug. Uh in the West, Kellogg sweeps. Thank you. Thank you. Kellogg sweeps Kalamazoo Valley. Can I I'm just gonna say it, Kellogg is the best you call in the state. Oh yeah. They're like 18 in a region.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:06

What? I think you can say a region. I well, I I don't know what I didn't look at the Ohio state.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:11

No, I don't think you can.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:12

But they're yeah, they're they're they're the best in the state because that's what I look at. Um they sweep Kalamazoo Valley, they are clearing everyone in the west. Um Lansing takes three or four from Lake Michigan to try to at least get up to those top two because remember the top two in each conference make the postseason district tournament. Yep. Uh the rest is the power rankings. Is the district just Michigan? No, it's the old it's the three Michigan conferences and the one Ohio conference. And it's some weird they have it's I don't want to say weird, it's the formula where you don't end up playing the same team. So like if for uh McComb and Henry Ford or McComb and Jackson, sorry, they're battling all year, they won't meet in the first round. So like the two in the west will play the one in the north or something like that. And then it it's actually uh uh complex, but it makes sense. It's not like the Gliak.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:03

I'm on Mott's thing right now, but they haven't posted scores yet. So it's TPM their game and then five.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:10

Mott didn't even have the box their own box score from yesterday's game.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:12

All right. Um Glen Oaks did sweep Ancilla. Glen Oaks has sucked, but um Ancilla's been bigger.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:18

I had three hits against Glen Oaks.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:20

Is that the one game you played? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:22

Okay. Um and then in the North, Mike. The North? I did no research, but I'm gonna tell you right now, without even looking, Grand Rapids is in first place.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:30

They swept mid-Michigan. Are they in first? Go through the standing. Grand Rapids is in first. Um it's fucked up because like some teams have played like 18 games and some have played 11. I mean, how hard is it to just spend 20 minutes?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:43

Dude, I go all in on the Big Ten.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

I mean, 20.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:47

I know, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:47

Just go I spend like name one or two kids from each spend three hours on the Big Ten.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:52

And then by the time a half. By the time I'm done, I kind of forget, and then I just remember Grand Rapids. It's Grand Rapids and mid-Michigan who's gonna be going at it.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:01

Alpina's actually second in that league, right? Good for them.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:04

If you looked it up, you'd know that.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:06

Yeah, right. That's true. It's not even my league, and I know all this. Um, but it's gonna create a situation, and this is where it kind of sucks, where some of the teams like Bay or or Delta are gonna have to play like 10 games in like 12 days or so. Have they had a home game yet? Bay? Yeah, I don't think so. They can't have good enough weather yet. No. I mean, uh you know what? God bless them for trying to have a program. That's not one I'd want to have to tackle and deal with. I mean, talking about uh having a hard time recruiting. I don't even know. I don't even know if they have turf either. I mean, god like I said, God bless them. I mean, Alpina's a stretch to try and and up there right on the uh on the water in Escanaba, yeah. Good luck. So uh real quick, Jay, can you give us the North standings? Okay, let me go here.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:55

I gotta go back.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

Yep, I gotta go back to the back. You gotta give him a little bit more header. Oh, sorry, yeah. Something like that. Especially, you just gotta assume he's a front runner. He's the only wants to talk about the big schools. Wait, Mike?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:04

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So the North Grand Rapids is 14 and 3. Alpina's in second at 7 and 4. Yeah. 14 and 3 and 7 and 4. Like mid-Michigan College is 12 and 7 in the conference. How many games has Bay played?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:22

Which one is Bay? The one with the helmet logo.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:26

I think it says Bay College.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:31

So they don't play. It's not B A E. They've played 25 games. And I think all of them have been on the road. So yeah, and they're two and twenty three.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:42

Anyway, I gotta have an interview we're gonna get to with Mike. We got our interview today, the one you set up for Michigan.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:51

Oh, Coach Stone. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. No, I'm excited. I'm excited about Coach Stone. He's excited. He was Texas, he was the first coach to say. I'm freaking pumped to talk some ball, so that's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:02

Well, let's it's gonna be a good conversation here, is Coach Stone. All right, now we welcome on our guests for this week. We go to the University of Michigan and their assistant coach, Andrew Stone. Coach, thank you so much for taking some time super this time of year. But thanks for uh joining us and talking some ball.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:20

No problem. Love talking college baseball. So all right.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:23

Well, let's talk college baseball. Um, you know, compared to some of the other coaches we've talked to, you're still relatively new in this journey. Uh, you know, you you played you played in the state, you've coached in the state. Yeah, I know. Walk everyone through their journey so they can get to know Coach Silver.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

So most people in the state grew up uh Spartan, which would later I I so most people in the state grew up uh later certainly run into both of those. Uh my dad worked at Western Michigan. Which is funny because later on the road 35 years and you run into both of those. My dad worked at Western Michigan for uh 35 years in the athletic department. Living and dying on all of the games. I um grew up in that athletic department. So I had the opportunity. Living and dying on all of the games. Coach Gernan um grew up in that athletic department and opportunity to basically take the last roster. Coach Gernan um gave me Western and I basically was like, I'll basically pick like spot. Um at Western, that's basically I'll do whatever it takes. Absolutely loved it. We um and so um a Mac tournament championship one year. Five years there, and uh got to spend a lot of time with Coach Petravix. So you guys tournament championship one year last week, and um got to like absolutely loved it. Coach Petravix five years on there uh last week. And um just like I absolutely loved it. Like absolutely loved it was five years because of the influence that you know Coach Gurnan and Coach Petravix had on me. Really, I wasn't the coach, you know, Coach Gernan and Coach Petravix had on me. Like my last internship uh to the graduate. I actually took us an internship last time. I knew it was in baseball. And I did uh an internship that was kind of and I remember baseball that was actually in Colorado at the Major League Baseball Players Alumni Association. And I remember Friday nights at the Major League Baseball Players Alumni Association. I would I just missed the Rocky games on Friday nights at times. That summer, you know what? Like I would think coaching is what I want to do. Um I was like, you know what, like my dad spent coaching athlete services, so I said how he impacted athletes. I wanted to do that. But I didn't want to how he impacted student athletes. And so I ended up coaching was kind of the way but I didn't want to give up um a lot of things. Long story short. I got really lucky that coaching was kind of the way I made a connection with my God at Kalmazou College. Long story short, I got fantastic program. Uh I had made a connection with Mike's. I was actually interning. Um and I was actually interning for him a assistant coach position open for a year. He actually held open a assistant coach position open for the day after. Um I was there in uh 2020 and 2020. What years were you? I was there in 2020 and 2021. Um drove across the street and started uh yeah, the day after I got done playing, I my job and started uh got to do it so much, man. Like jobs, got to do all the hitting, got to do all the infield, and like got to do credit so much, man. I like coach out, got to do all the hitting, got to do all the in-field, and like had a I really credit 23 or 20 years ago. He had a 23 or 22 year old assistant that probably knew more than he did. And um, really run with things. Um they had just missed some really MIAA tournaments. And if you look at from 2020, just missed the MIAA tournament, the year short. If you look at look at the 2021 and 12 now, you know that season got him as a national. It's on a national scene now. And so if you look at from 2021 and I think he's a national, it's on a national scene now. And so that league is so much. I think he's like he's a great coach. He runs a great program. You know everybody. Um that league is I loved working there, like it's so much fun. Um the coaches have been there forever, it seems like I equate it to like playing a neighborhood weekend. Like they all know each other, like taking their team down. It just had a blast. Like, you know, we got to work football games and basketball. Like they all know each other, and I loved it. Um I just had a blast. Like, you know, we have to actually play games and basketball games. I had an opportunity to loved the interview at Mitch Michigan State. But and uh, you know, I actually um I actually had an opportunity to interview at Mitch Michigan State. And uh I interviewed with Coach Boss. Uh it was I actually didn't get the job 21. Uh I interviewed with Coach Boss and he didn't hire me the first time. I remember 2021. So devastated of like, man, like and he he didn't hire me the first time. I wanted to get back to the city. So devastated of like I loved working. You know, I played division one, I wanted to get back to the city. So I was pretty devastated. I remember I loved uh well at Kalamazoo College. But then six months. And so I was pretty devastated, I remember that one uh well in 21. Uh but then he called me back and later, right after season um in 21, uh he he called me back. Yeah, it was it's cool. I spent four years there um in a bunch of different roles. Uh was the volunteer. Yeah, it was it's cool. I spent four years there um in a bunch of different roles in the NCAA, was the volunteer for the first two years while that was still a thing in the NCAA. You're not allowed to have that right now anymore, right? After the season 23. Yep, they got rid of that in 2020. I was the after the fortunate enough twenty three. Coach Boss came on when when that role went full time. Fortunate enough, so uh I got to wear just a ton of different hats there. Uh that role went full time. Ended up so um, I got to wear just a ton of hats there. Two years I can't remember when that all flipped. Ended up um like I loved hitting the last year. I loved working with that. I can't remember when that all flipped. The players there, like um like I loved to me. I loved working with that. Um I'm really proud of the players there like my four year run. A ton to me, and um, I think that we're really proud program are um, I think it's in my four year run in a better spot. Um I think that we improved the program. Maybe um I think when you look at wins and losses, a better spot. The outside world does that. But I think for the maybe uh when you look at wins and losses there, a lot of we did a really, really good job. But I think for the in that kind of challenges that you have there, I think we did a really, really good job. Um in that kind of go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:35

I was gonna say, so you you're the recruiting coordinator at Kalamazoo. Yep. Then you go to Michigan. I mean, those are two completely, it's both baseball, but it's two completely different worlds. When you're completely different. When you're at Kalamazoo and you're trying to convince someone to come there compared to when you're at Michigan State, I mean, what how are the approaches different? Like if you're coming in and you're tell trying to get Mike to go to Kalamazoo, but then you're trying to get Jay to go to Michigan State, what are the different types of people?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:03

Target a different type of kid that has like they're just targeted of what you want. You want somebody that's type hard worker that's curious, they all have takes pride in what you want. You want somebody that's that's a hard worker that's curious, but at the same time, pride and you know, at Kalamzo College, you're seeing what they're doing, you're certainly looking more in the world. But at the same time, like you know, at Calamzoo College, you're searching. You're certainly looking more things outside of the state of Michigan. You know, we didn't do a ton of in-state kids. You know, we didn't know how to sell outside the state of Michigan. At Calms of College is like one of the big sales graduate in four years. Um, at Kellmso College, like one of the great degree. Move on and do great things in the world. They graduate kids in four years. And Michigan State is a great degree. We move on and do great things. A little bit more national brand. You know, we're Chicago are a little bit more of like guys Michigan and Midwest guys. You're selling we're gonna be able to do that. For the most part Michigan based Midwest guys. For the most part, we had good success. You're selling like you're selling, we're gonna turn you into a least national baseball player, and for the most part, we had good success with that. Uh a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:08

Um GPA GPA, GPA is different, right? Like for uh Kalamazoo D3, just the recruiting side of the game, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:16

Like well, you have to find the academic scholarships too. You have to find every little thing that you can do.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:21

Well, I got I got a funny Mike Ott story, and you might have even been there when this happened now that I'm well uh yeah, maybe. So he called me. I remember I was at Home Depot, and my son Tommy was a junior, I think, or Ricardo Mooney. I was coaching Steven Rule in in the summer. So I forgot. I forget which order it went into, but he's like, Right, so tell me about Tommy, what's his deal, you know? And I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is my first phone call, and it's my son. Like my heart was I'm like, Well, I'll tell you, you know, he has a 3.1. He goes, Oh shit, that's not gonna work. And I was like, but it was a good it was a good story to use. But then but listen to this. So like ten seconds later, he's like, tell me about Stephen Rule. And I'm like, Well, he's got a 315. He's like, Come on, yeah, tell me a little bit more about Stephen Rule. Steven threw like 90s five, so I'm it was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:16

Well, you can you can make an exception, but I knew him well enough.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:18

But the Jeep, my point is the GPA is super important unless you throw a hundred like Steven Rule. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:24

I mean, there's that's that's the same in any life, right? Like you can get away with coming into work late if you sell everything in the building. Like it that's just that's just how it works. Now, when you were recruited for Kalamazoo, how often did you pull up? Yeah, you use that. You know, Western's right across the street, too, right? From a party. Oh, yeah, you guys. Listen, I'm just for whatever reason, maybe you have friends going there, but Western kind of has a reputation, and you can go to the academic school and then also have a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:56

So we would always say you've got your little neighborhood at Kamazoo College, but you're in a pretty cool college too. Right. So we use that.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:03

Okay, so we didn't get to the Michigan part yet. Like, I don't know. I don't know how much you could dig into that. I was around for it. But like how did that can you talk about how that whole thing because not only is it like you know, wild, so how did you become treasonous is what he's trying to be around.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:27

Think you're gonna go career when you're first mapping state rival to the two. You probably don't like your like think you're gonna go from one in state. And to be quite honest, like it wasn't probably not running your like, you know, I didn't really know anybody on the staff. And to be quite honest, like it wasn't a pitching coaching or who you know, I didn't know I didn't really know any anybody with recruiting. We would pitch and coach and take a few minutes and then um kind of go on our way and recruiting. We would you know, say what's up. Yeah, I saw him at a actually at a Royal Oak Leprechaun. Can't remember uh who I was going to see or who I was going to show you. Yeah, I saw him at a actually at a Royal Oak Leprechaun game. Um I can't remember who I was going to see up to. He was like, I can't like there may be an opportunity, like, would you be interested? I remember being like, hey, and like there may be a lot of people like, would you be interested? Like when like hold a buddy of yours or something. Yeah, and he was like, I think anytime you you don't get to choose to come to you is and you don't get to choose what opportunities. Like in the corporate world, you choose when opportunities come to you. And you don't get to choose what tie for a job. Like in the corporate world, you can like that's not indeed totally how it works for us and fly for a job when you're anytime that an opportunity comes to you. I think that you have to take a anytime that an opportunity, where are you, you know, comes to you. I just think you look like what do I want to do? Good hard load. What is five years from now? Look at where are you? And certainly the future look like what do I want to do? What is five years previously at Michigan State? And certainly timing or for maybe it just wasn't right previously at Michigan State, and for timing, or maybe it just wasn't right. This one felt like the right time, I had the right staff, I didn't choose to do that program. Um this one felt it just ended up being that they were in the right raft, the right program. But it just ended up being that they were in-state rivals. Um, one of the interesting things about if there was anybody that understood, like when I sat down in his office at Michigan, like he understood. If there was anybody that understood, like when I sat down in his office, like he had a relationship with that. I'll always be grateful. Um how he, you know, it's certainly you know our relationship with that and how he took it. It's um this weekend was a little weird being in the other dugout, but uh playing it against all the guys. That this the past weekend was a little weird being in the other dugout, unique weekend, but playing it against all the time. It was it was uh I've absolutely loved the last weekend at the University of Michigan. I think it's a good idea. I'm super grateful for my time there place and I've absolutely loved the last year at the University of the Athletics. I think it's a life changing sets you up place, both academically. So um I always have you needing a sets you up the rest of your life, and so um I always have a unique, unique uh story about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:11

Yeah, I I can so you know what I do for a living, right? On the the telecom side. So I I call on CEOs every day and I talk to big wigs and suits. There's something about Tracy Smith that intimidates the shit out of me. I can call any coach, you know this, right? Brady, I'll call any coach. We're not curing cancer here, we're just talking baseball. No, you're a big deal, Michael. No, no, I'm not saying that. There's something once that's gonna be my goal from now till the end of the show, whenever the show ends up, they end up kicking us off, is for me to have a conversation with Tracy Smith. But it's probably a pretty cool My point is working with Jake Boss, who's a freaking pro, and now working with Tracy, like again, in the business world, it is all about relationships and who you know, and you know, you make an impression on those two types of people.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:01

The sky's the limit for the way that I like you know, I think Jake just won I might get the number wrong and I'll feel bad if I do. I think 500th game, I got the look. Jake just won I might get the number wrong and I'll feel bad if I do. I think he just won his 500th game. We got the lookup guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:16

So maybe uh Yeah, brought so Adam Adam Broski hit a walk run rule walk-off for his 500 games. Run rule.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:24

Remember we said game ended, not a walk-off. I call it I call it run rule walk-off.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:28

Run rule walk-off. Game ended. So I've had the opportunity to work for a little more that's won over. So he's a little past five, a couple.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:34

And then I was I was fortunate. So I've had the opportunity to work for somebody that's won over 100 wins. And then I was I was fortunate enough to be able to do that. When you see a step 100 wins, take the logo opening weekend. And so I think you've had an opportunity to take a step for two people. Like take the logo, like know what they're doing. Like I've had an opportunity to work for two people. They have similarities, but they don't know what their differences helped me work for the other. And like their relationship goes back, for instance. And I think working for one helps me with 20 others. And so their relationship goes back from you know, Skip, he had called 101520. That's kind of like even before I had heard from from Skip, he had called Jake, and that's kind of like how our industry works. I had been tired of it. Before you're probably shit in your shitting yourself going to talk to Jake. I I had been tipped off a little bit, but um yeah, it was it was a unique uh couple days there in my life that it's really cool, really freaking cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:30

So so being at a spot like Michigan, um, where you know there's a lot of big sports. I mean, football is football's king basically everywhere, basketball just wins a national title, hockey is has a long lineage. How do you battle for the oxygen in the room and and the resource? I know there's a ton of money around there, but you you have to fight for every scrap you can get and all the attention you can. What's that like at a place like Michigan where you know everyone's trying to get a piece of the pie, and there's a lot of strong programs there.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:01

I would say that uh oh, Jay's got an answer.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:06

Two minutes ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:07

He hit his milestone 500 or 500.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:10

Are you talking Jake Boss?

SPEAKER_03 1:22:11

Yeah, yeah. 500th win on uh March 21st, 2026. So career record right now, 505. 505 wins.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:21

Good. Nice segue. Thanks.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:23

I would say that uh the thing about Michigan athletics. I would say that uh the oxygen for Michigan Athletics, I think, is endless. I think the cool thing about the university is a good idea. I think it just never in the last year is that you feed. I think the cool thing about the everybody in Michigan that I've felt in the last year is that you just a football program that's on the national level. Then the basketball team just wins a national championship. The women's basketball team football program that's on a national level. The basketball team just wins a national championship. The women's basketball team, um, our women's tennis. The elite is won their fourth straight second title. Our men's gymnastic team is like a national. You know, our women's tennis team just won their fourth Lake Tennis title. And so you feel like a national softball is rolling, yeah. Qualify. Like it's you just feel like softball's still good there. Softball is quite a lot. Softball is rolling, yeah. You just feel like you can't be the one dragging behind. So, you know, our hockey program will be. You can't be the one dragging behind. No, you can't be the one dragging behind. So, you know, our hockey out of the office we're really close with the hockey staff. Um, if you just feel it. Hanging out, like every day you come to a pla comes to the office, and it's like you just it's something bigger than like every day you come to the play to come to the office. So much history here. It's uh it's for something bigger than yourself. It's like um I think there's just so much history like that you fire that display that you want to win. I think it's just an internal like fire that this display spreads that you want to win at a very high level.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:56

So alright. Tell me I don't know if this is comfortable or uncomfortable, or we we can edit it if it doesn't make sense. I was watching you coach, I went over to your sideline. What do I call it? I I went behind the dugout, you know, on the dugout side at Michigan State. And I swear anywhere Michigan State hit the ball, somebody was there. Like Ryan, Ryan McKay probably hit a ball 110 miles per hour up the middle, and there was a middle infielder sitting there. Do you did you have a lot of influence on that game or defense positioning is the brainchild of our director of analytics?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:36

Hunter Satter. Defense positioning is the brainchild of our directors. We stand right next to each other during games and kind of bounce absolutely off of each other. Uh we stand right next to each other. He's actually during the manager here who comes out the is off of each other. He's actually been here, but that guy, he's actually the student manager here. He was on the scene. So he's been with the program. He's actually been multiple different, I think his first he's when they did the 18 errors. I guess he's been with the backage, he was a student manager under backage, and then the ops guy uh Eric's last errors, I guess. And then he was a backage, he was a student manager under backage, and then the ops guy did uh Eric's last year here. So we we I did the defense positioning in my previous job. Fantastic. Um I do a lot more than I did the defense positioning in my previous job. So but Hunter and I stand right next to the case. I do a lot more opposing teams pitchers now. Um but but the Hunter and I stand right right next to the other. It was cool to see.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:26

I was watching I was watching you walk up to the on deck server. Really? You know, if it's on a really neat, really neat to experience.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:40

So you do that because of coach movement, but player movement, I mean, that's something that is just the it's the wild west right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:46

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:46

How do you I mean I feel like no one has the answer yet, but internally, how do you guys try to balance it? Because you you have to almost constantly be recruiting your own guys. You never know what back channeling's going on, or or who has a friend that has a that is playing at another program that says, hey, this guy might want to move. Just I know it's kind of an open-ended question, but how do you guys navigate the transfer portal? Uh, because it does feel like there's no guardrails and it's the wild west.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:16

I think that it's a challenge that's a every court uh is trying to figure out how to do it. I think that it's a challenge that everyone is trying to figure out how to do back channeling in some way. You just have to assume whether it be through everybody or teammates that they have from summer back channeling in some way, uh whether it be through parents or teammates that they have from summer of Michigan, um, is that like this place is hard to leave. The cool thing about the university. When you get to the University of Michigan, like this place wraps its arms around, it's hard to leave. And once you get to the University of Michigan, like this place wraps its arms around, certainly we don't have 100% success rate in getting people to succeed in life. But I think when you create an environmentally where I think when you create an environment, you want that socially, athletically, academically where kids are more likely to want to see what's best for the person. And we're not perfect. It's very hard likely to work. There's so much player movement. Um, very hard like we don't need this world, there's so much player movement. Like we, you know, one of the cool conversations like that I like to do that. This is how we don't people here. You know, maybe what how have a conversation about. What do you want? This is how we want like maybe this is a 15 inning guy. What will you want to be a 60-inning guy? You want like maybe our 15-inning guy. And that's 60-inning guy. And I love like I love it because it's just built on SD. And that's how Skip does it, and I love like I love file things. So I hope that we can rein it in at some point in the next feature. That we can rein it in at some point. I just think that we have a lot of people. I don't know how that's above my page. Maybe always looking for what's next. But I just think that we have a lot of people that I've tried to be better about in my life. Maybe always looking at your feet are and enjoy where you are. Um, see where your feet are and enjoy where you are. So um because it's most of the time you're in you're in the right spot uh for a reason.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:18

So the nice part about the nice part about Michigan too is you have the school back and you I mean you do well at University of Michigan. You're at University of Michigan, and then you have the Big Ten, which has UCLA in it now, USC, or like if you throw a hundred miles per hour at Michigan, is there really a big difference if you go to Kentucky and the SEC?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:40

So that that is a nice part about it. Come back to just, hey, if someone's gonna cut you a bigger check, well, yeah, and that and that's the reality. Like, you mean like we talked about there there might be back channeling and you know, one booster wants this kid and they pay up. Like it's and I'm sure those are conversations you have to have about you know, it's not like I mean, even when uh you started at Michigan State, it wasn't like this, it wasn't the Wild West. So, I mean, you've had to learn on the fly, but yeah, a kid comes to you and says, Hey, the school's gonna cut me this check, and you and if you don't have it, like what do you I mean, what do you say besides? What's the response to that?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:19

The big 10 pitch of the year. That's actually I think they have a good story of that with us. Last year, the big 10 pitcher of the year with Oriel Joseph Gerwa. You know, he went in the portal after a second comp pick or a second round pick signed with Vanderbilt. You know, he went in the portal after his has more NIL resources than signed with Vanderbilt. Um has more NIL resources. Like a few days before he was supposed to be a couple of years. He gave us a call and said, you know what? Like, I think that I love it. Like a few days before you were supposed to go, he gave us a call and said, you know what? Like, I think that certainly don't want to love get all into where I was at that went down. But like you know, the the the certainly don't want to get all into the business of how his life that went down, but happy where you're at, don't mess with happiness because the check. If you're happy where you're at, the signing bonus is public online. Like he made his money. Check will come down the road. You know, we like the University of Michigan. Like you get his money pay off down the road farther than any NIH degree that you get here will pay off down the road. Farther than any NIH, 19, 20, 21 year olds to like see that is a challenge sometimes. And I think getting 18, 19, 20, 21 year olds still for the next eighty years of your life is a challenge sometimes. But like this place takes care of you for the next 50 years of your life.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:33

Oh, yeah. That's what I meant. You have many behind you so than dealing with transfers is a problem. Maybe school in a big time.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:40

I don't know. It's less so than where than a different thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:44

Yeah, it's still a problem, just not as big of a problem. Right. Um, the the other thing I always find interesting is you know, everyone always goes, you know, the South is where you people go to play baseball. Is it hard to convince a kid? Because let's say you go out of state and I'm just gonna throw a Kentucky. You there's a kid out of Lexington that's awesome, and you're recruiting him, and you have to convince him to come up north, and you know, hey, we might not be able to go outside till mid to late March. How how do you combat all the southern schools with just just the weather when someone throws that complaint out there? Because that's the biggest thing is oh, you know, all northern schools they always struggle because because of the weather and they can't do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:24

Yeah, I think that that's uh you know, you're gonna be hitting in indoors in time. I think you just embrace it and you just tell the truth. Yeah, I think that that's uh and if somebody's not interested in doing that, then I think you just embrace it type of thing. And you just tell the truth that we want in the locker. If somebody's not interested in doing that, I think this place has been built on like tough dudes that we want in the locker. Our blue collar and are willing to do that. I think this place is to win from like tough dudes. I think Tommy Henry said I better. Our blue collar and our willing chest and whatever it takes. Certainly when I recruit, like, Tommy Henry said it just the eight layers across your chest and stuff and we certainly run into it. Certainly when I recruit, like our roster. I want kids that embrace big West Coast flavor. And we certainly run into that. Uh but our roster, we have it. We have I think that the University of Michigan flavor on our roster right now. Um I think that the University of Michigan supersedes snow. Um and so wait a second.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:13

So I'm thinking about the timelines here. You are you're just now getting out for the I don't know when it starts, but really it's fairly recruiting from Michigan.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:24

So like the last summer recruiting cycle. Yeah, I got here I was out from Michigan. The like Atlas Games events. I was out from Michigan. So it's been about you know, eight or nine events in Atlanta, I think was one of my first events. Okay. Um so it's been about you know, eight or nine months of recruiting.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:43

Um are you getting on planes and things to go recruit now? Or like how does it be? Because Michigan is not just looking at the case. The planes will come in the summer, right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:54

You know, you're kind of locked in on um the season. Um the plans, the majority of the recruiting right now, you know, you're kind of locked in Thursdays, the season. Um trying to get out of here. The majority of the recruiting right now. One of the things is like I'm days we want as a staff, one of the reasons why trying to get out, like leave that one of the things that we want the best players in the state of Michigan. One of the reasons to come to Michigan. I believe so. So Skip hired me. Is like we want like I have a state of Michigan strong Michigan background, and so that's what I've been trying to do the last few months. Like, I have a weak strong Michigan background, and so that's what I've been trying to do the last few months. Uh, the kids in the state of Michigan to know that Michigan's the premier program to come to is like I want the kids in the state of Michigan to know that Michigan's the premier program to come to.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:35

That was my first thought when I found out you were taking this job. It really was. Like, if you're the best player in Michigan, Stone's gonna know you, he's gonna have a relationship, they better go to Michigan. And if they don't, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:47

But so so, Coach, can you do me a favor real quick? Do you have your phone on you? Yes. Uh can you check and see how many DM requests you have on Twitter right now? Because I have to imagine you probably have thousands.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:03

That is a funny. That's actually a great question.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:05

Like we always tell kids, oh, I can tell you, I know it's it's it's not quite apples to apples, but I've been in a uh D2 locker room with a recruiting coordinator. I don't know. And I've seen the request, and it's scrolling and scrolling. How many?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:20

I don't know if it I don't know if it gives you a number, but like I mean, there might be one in there for me from like two or three years ago with like Manzella or somebody, or you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:30

It's a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:31

It it's like all right, go to the top. How many have you gotten in the past 48 hours?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:38

Oh boy, in the last 48 hours.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:40

Don't be afraid to throw out an arbitrary number. It's okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:43

Just to be done with it. Uh two or three. So not bad. Two or three.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:47

So yeah, just in the last day or two. No, not bad. Uh two or three. So not bad. Two or three. All right, not not not terrible, but I have to imagine.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:56

I mean, it's hard to stay up with that.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:58

Well, yeah, because I mean, and you know, there might be someone, but I feel like, you know, at Calamazoo, you probably had to do that a lot more than you do at Michigan. Because, you know, Calamazoo, you're taking a kid from some D4 in that's playing little, you know, small level high school ball.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:15

We're here at Michigan, everyone kind of knows who to go to at this point. You have to rely on the people that are. Well, you certainly trust Michigan have to, whether that it's your Chicago group of guys that you trust. It's your Chicago group of guys, your guys have my Michigan guy. You know, I call it on Adam Good, you know, just about every Michigan week and just make sure that I'm on. You know, you just have to rely on the guys director of the baseball machine. You know, we certainly have our West Coast guys. You know, you just have to rely on the guys that you know coming out there. And so you know, we certainly have our West Coast guys that you're such a wide net in tune coming out there. We're from South Korea. There's just so many such a wide net. Jinsung Park. They're from South Korea. We have a software. What's his name again?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:00

Because I talked to Jinsung Park. Yep. Jun Park. Yep. Three RBIs that last week. Yes, we did.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:05

I think you were pretty close on that one. So um speaking of like the West Coast, how baseball aside, how much does it suck to have to get on a plane on like a Wednesday or Thursday to fly out there for a weekend series?

SPEAKER_00 1:36:20

We travel well at the University of Michigan. Um so it it's we travel well at the University of Michigan. It's yeah, it's going easy. It's probably pretty nice, actually. It's not what like spent a week out. We did have a tough like where we spent for weekdays and then had to go back out to California. We did have a tough day, so that was a weird one. We came home for three days and then had to go back out to California to play UCLA, so that was a weird one. I think the Monday that you're back to the case. I would say because you're taking a red eye back problem. Um actually that you're back is the problem because you're taking a red eye back. Just being careful actually schedule on the return trip from that from that West Coast because just being careful with how you schedule on a return trip from that. 630, 730, 830 in the morning. Because you know, you're and you're Monday 63. 630, 730, 830 morning plane. So I'm just like, and your your Monday kind of knocked out at that point. Um I can't sleep on planes, so I'm just like while we're coming on.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:24

So I think that's gonna be one of our snippets. Yeah, when Coach Stone is like, we like direct flights. We travel well. We travel well and you can tell he's trying not to be too boastful, boast too much. Um, but I know you know this stuff. What is going on with this whole like five-year thing I keep seeing? I never know if it's real. By the way, I did I I sent you something the other day that was real, but that's kind of how I feel about this.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:53

Yeah, my got got by my snap.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:56

But that's kind of how I feel about this NCAA stuff, because I heard last time it got pushed to like two years from now.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:02

Yeah, the I think the NCAA like Division I council who votes on all the rules changes, they they looked at it. I think the NCAA like there hasn't been a lot of questions on to your grandfather. There hasn't been any house out there to the current student athletes. I think there's a lot of like questions. I think that they can grandfather people in the city. The executive order that the president signed. So I think that they're not going to be able to do that. I think this all stems from um the executive order that being president signed. I think the NCAA is trying to figure out how to um I'll be interested in being that switched is that that that would have major, major shockwaves. Like if you remember how major, major shockwaves. I think you remember how crazy COVID of that um backed up rosters.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:47

I I think it would just be another version of that where Yeah, you're not someone's gonna get screwed in that, whether it's the high school kids or like at some point you have to rip the band-aid off and you can just say, okay, you know, every incoming freshman now has five. It's just it someone's gonna be upset with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:04

Yeah, with with my with my Detroit prospect stuff I got going on, I'm curious about it too, right? Because those those seniors or juniors that may have been recruited just kind of messes with everything. So it is real then.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:16

So um go ahead. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:19

All right. Nope.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:20

Oh, okay. So I was gonna take another left turn and I'm gonna throw Mike under the bus. Um yeah, because uh so I I don't know if this is a sore subject, but you know, a couple weeks ago you lost a midweek to Oakland. But I want to congratulate you. Yeah, because Mike said it didn't matter, so you really didn't lose that game. So congrats on you know taking away one of the one of those losses.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:44

Well, before you before you answer that, well, no, you answered first, and I guess.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:48

I would just congratulate like he lost a game, but Mike annulled it.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:53

Well, I've learned some things. Oh yeah, uh Coach Stone. Like this RPA thing is real in baseball. Like the midweeks do matter. Yes. You know, it you know, I didn't think about you guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:06

I was hoping this would come up actually. Um I was hoping I I too wants to believe that midweeks can buy at one point in our life. Um I I too want to believe. Midweeks are like the most important thing for us like from now until the end of the season. Like we we midweeks are like the most important thing for us like from now until the end of the season. Like we actually we so we're actually switched to midweek. Ohio tomorrow. We actually just we um we actually just switched to midweek play. They're I think in the 50s, Miami, Ohio tomorrow. Um 53 in play. They are I think in the 50s in RPI and so. They're 53. We weren't sure if we're gonna bring this up to you or not. We weren't sure. The RPI is one of the most important things that the committee looks at when they're looking at large bids. Um the RPI is one of the most important things that take that in the committee looks at when they're looking at large bids. Um as long as the RPI still allows you to lose points for us in games. Like, as long as the RPI still allows you to like lose points, even if we would have won tomorrow with our issue in college based. I don't actually care. You don't you can't see like even if we would have won until the day tomorrow with our original appointment. There's a chance that we would have lost actually. So you see the numbers, there's no way to know until the day. There's a chance that we would have lost our RPI points. And so you you you enter this like conundrum of like what do you think? Um we're playing every game like it's game seven of the world series because we can't afford to. We're right there on the bubble. Um we're playing every game like it's game seven of the world series because everything's out there ahead of us. We're right there on the bubble and uh with about a month to go, and um certainly everything's out there ahead of us for us.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:43

Yeah, that's that's so interesting. I've learned so much just in these like six, seven weeks we've been doing this. I was talking with uh Jason Hill last night, who's a really good friend of mine. Uh actually, I think Brennan's on the uh your team, but he's really into this RPI stuff. So we were talking for an hour about it last night because we're the Dorks, but I never I really meant it, you know, kind of like who cares about the midweek, but then holy cow.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:10

I thought that at one point in my life too. Like I whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:13

But well, I mean, I no, you're not gonna take the like okay, if they lose a midweek, you're not gonna take as much stock out of that as uh uh a a series that's you know being played uh on the weekend. But you're still it's still important. You're just not going, okay, this is the truest indicator of what a team is. Yeah, it's gonna be the conference games, but midweek still hold a lot of value.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:36

Yeah, especially if these guys, if Michigan's 47 right now, right, they win tomorrow, like they gotta hold strong there because of the way the field of 64 works.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:46

So really, really cool. He's your guy.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:49

So tell me about Colby Turner. I gotta ask. These guys make fun of me because I look at stats. I finally got to see him in person last week when you guys were at uh state, and I love his swing, I love his approach. I saw the defensive play he made yesterday. I'll call it.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:05

Kobe's a gamer, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:07

Like tell us just tell us a little bit about him.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:09

Dude, there's so much about Kobe's a gamer there. I think he he he he plays hard. He's always looking forward to the balls. There's so much he can take away from there. I think he's hitting aspect, plays hard. He's always looking for dirt ball reads. I think for like first center team with stone hitting aspect. Like he's always looking for dirt ball reads. I think he's just like he's tied for first. And he's not the fastest guy in positions. He just like seconds. He knows how to play baseball. He's had him at first. You know, we played in practice, we have seconds. He can play a lot of different spots. I think we've had him at first at times. He's his lineup second, we've less. And the one thing that I appreciate about Kobe's not always gonna like a hard-nosed guy, the one that like tells you like how he's feeling like regimen and tells you like how he's feeling. Like he's a blue-collar guy, like I'm just gonna play pretty like how I feel that day in his day-to-day of like blue-collar guy, like on things that he play, no matter how I feel that day to get better on. Um I do appreciate that we've worked on this year, is certainly cutting down his strikeouts, yeah. Um, and cutting down his chase, and that we've worked on this year. Certainly, cutting down his strikeouts, and cutting down his chase rate. And and uh absolutely okay, these things are things that I need to get better at. And I'm if I'm proud of him for that goals that I'm seeing, okay. These things are things that I need to get better. Um, if I want to reach that I want and he wants to be a professional, get better at things that he needs to get better. I think that he's shown ability to he has a year better at things that he needs to get better at. He'll be a does he have any years left? I imagine he'll be a year after this one. Oh, okay. But he'll be uh he'll be I imagine he'll have some after in the draft.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:58

But it'll have a little bit maybe of like negotiating power. Yep. My my comp is Alex Bregman. Is that a decent comp? Like kind of stocky, strong. I don't know if stocky is the right word, but so uh as a coach, have you ever endearingly called one of your players?

SPEAKER_00 1:45:14

I think Kobe Turner would be an endearing dirtbag. We heard this last week. Noah I think Kobe Turner would be an endearing Noah Miller is an absolute dirtbag.

unknown 1:45:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:25

I was just curious if that was a Mike Rice special or if that's like, hey man, you're out there playing well, you're playing like a good dirt bag out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:31

Like I'm yeah, I think it's I think they should wear that as a badge of honor. Like I do things like the dirt bags. It means he's a gritty player.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:37

Yeah or the dirt bags. I just the first time he said it, it threw me off.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:40

Isn't Long Beach State, don't they call themselves the dirtbags? Yeah. That might even be their actual name. Like, I don't know. They're not the dirt bags. Their official logo is the dirt bags. Stone is a nerd about this stuff. He probably knows. Aren't they called the dirtbags? Their baseball team is the dirtbags.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:56

It says But that's not their like college nickname.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:59

It is their baseball name. Nickname. All right. Look it up, Jay.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:04

Like that might be like their rallying cry or their like thing, but like the school is not the Long Beach State dirtbags.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:13

You'll see in a second. I want to hear about Kurt Barr, too, because I've been watching him since he was like 14 years old, being in the Catholic League, and I'm noticing a little bit of a he's still just he's still a pitcher, but I'm noticing of what has been other Michigan kids.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:34

I think like he's such a cool story of Michigan. Other Michigan absolutely fantastic careers of like we've been playing baseball in the state of Michigan and have a absolutely fantastic career. So we've been playing baseball on campus here for 160. That have won 200 career strikeouts, and they're in the Kerr Bar is now one of them. And I told him that like I have career strikeouts. I told him that the other day that like I have that he like you don't that is in an era. Like I hope that he realizes how suppressive that is in an era. Kurt is I call him the enigma with like my friends when we're talking about baseball. Like um Kurt is I call him the enigma. He with my friends when we're talking about slider. Throws this breaking ball that like I don't even know what you would call it. It's like a cutter slider thing. And it looks like it goes straight up and down. It actually goes across. But like it's an enigma. Like they I'm not gonna give out how I think that's like however you can hit it, metric. Like it's not even like a they a crazy metric. They just don't. Like however, it's not above average metric. Like it's not even like a metric plate, is how I think it's not above average. It looks weird on TV. And it just does like I remember Dylan Carey from Nebraska there like described. And he remembered Dylan Carey from Nebraska. We knew he was gonna throw and he got interviewed after they faced it. He throws strikes. We knew he was gonna throw it and hit it. He's a guy that I hope can get a professional opportunity. He throws strikes, he mixes speeds, man. He's a guy that I hope can get a professional. Um Pro Ball wants the 97, 98 gets an hour guy. And um, I hope Kurt gets an opportunity because he deserves it. He just gets out.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:26

Yeah, so so real quick to update, I think me and Jay both looked this up. Yeah, Long Beach date now they're officially known as the dirtbags. Well, the the the beach is their official, yeah, yeah, it's rather be the dirtbag. It says uh the baseball team's players and fans alike generally prefer the more col colloquial name, the dirtbag. Started in the 80s. Yeah, yeah. So Evan Longoria. Honestly, I'd rather be called a dirtbag than uh the beach. Jason Gianni.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:59

Who's the guy there that um maybe he's at UNLV now? What's his name? You should know his name.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:04

Oh, the um figure it out. Someone would know his name if I said it. Mike's gonna be the old time. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:12

He was uh He was at CM Coach. Yeah, yeah. Um what the hell is his name? I'll text it to you tonight when I remember it. And I'll remember like right when we hang up here. Probably so. What is it? I'll text it to you tonight.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:25

A guy from Michigan at Long Beach Day. I think he might be at UNLV now.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:29

But anyway, we love we love we love Noah Miller. We we love Noah Miller. We love Colby Turner, we love Kurt Barr. Like the team uh working his way back in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:40

Yep, working his way back. Who is that?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:42

Hill. Is Hill coming back?

SPEAKER_00 1:49:43

Uh working his way back right now. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:45

Good. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:45

Yep, working his way back. Jeff Ris. Just kind of look at some other things. I think a cool Michigan one is Evan Hager. Jeff Lewis certainly had a I think a cool Michigan one is Evan Hager's dad played Lewis certainly. I think I drafted by the title. Roller coaster of the college career's dad played here. I think got drafted by Evan had this workout like Evan. He went to Alabama and I think he was meant to be the whole time. And he's just like in this environment, he's having just an amazing feels believed here. I'm hoping that we're getting him back here soon. And he's having just an amazing career year. I think I'm hoping that we're getting him back here soon. He had a little little ankle issue. But uh I was wondering about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:35

We had him as our player of the watch last week because I noticed I noticed the move of pace kind of going to the corners and just plugging in Hager saying go be athletic out there. And then I didn't see him this weekend, so he's uh got an ankle. He has two of them probably.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:51

Yeah, but he's got two.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:53

So Mike, you got anything else? Uh I could do this for another two hours. I know you could. I mean, I feel like every coach we've had on, we could sit and talk to for three hours.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:03

Well, ideally, if we keep this thing going, I want to have Coach Stone back on in the offseason. No, no, no, no. Around June, whenever the field of 64 comes out, so we can celebrate. Because I think I think I think we're gonna see them there. I'm gonna be paying attention to these RPIs.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:19

You have to let the people at the NCAA know the Oakland loss doesn't count, so don't put it against them in the RPIs. I'll tweet it. I'll put it hashtag something. Mike has declared that. So Coach, uh, thanks so much for joining us. Like I said, I know you're super busy. Anytime always fun to talk, uh, talk baseball.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:36

Great fun.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:37

I appreciate it. We're proud of you.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:39

We're proud of you, and we're cheering for you all the time. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it. See you, man. Good luck. Thank you, Down. See you bye.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:46

All right. Thanks again to Coach Stone for uh having a chance to talk with us. I know things are really busy right now for him. So always appreciate every coach that comes on. Want to let you know show is produced by Hunch Free Studios, a full-service digital media company specializing in video production, comprehensive digital marketing solutions, software development, and full service web design. As we wrap this up, I've got a couple quiet. Well, I have one and Mike has one. I'm gonna start with mine. It's a two-parter. First of all, is everyone in here in agreement that the pitch clock and ABS are positive rule changes to baseball? Absolutely. Oh Doug?

SPEAKER_02 1:52:24

I was actually I wanted a time. Yeah pitch clock. Pitch clock, yes. I mean, anything they can do to speed the games up, I'm I'm all for.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:32

Doug always has to be somewhere. Fuck. I mean, I don't want to sit there for a four hour.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:37

And then ABS.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:39

And its current implementation. I don't. Yes, and no. I mean, I don't I dig it. I don't know that I love it. I think it it I think it's taking a little bit away from the game. Be better, ump. I think it's not even just the umps. I mean, I think you're now taking away that part where the catchers have to learn how to frame pitches.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:57

But now you get the opposite where they're trying to like fool the battery.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:01

I like it. Maybe. You know, I I just I don't know. I'm I'm indifferent. I mean, I guess, but I I I don't think it's I'm not a hundred percent all in, yes, this is a great for the game. It is what it is to you. I dude, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:13

I like it. And here's my argument for ABS. I think they should be able to earn more chances. That means you start with two, okay, and then Dingler receives one and taps his head, and the umpire fucks it up and Dingler's right. Now we're at three. Yep. You just lose when you're back down to two.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:34

Yeah, if you win if you win, you replace it. Yeah, keep going. Keep going. 5%. I'm with you. I like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:39

Specifically the pitch clock, because I think that one's the most university beloved. The question off of that is the pitch clock is the best rule change in any sport since blank. Three-point line. That was that was my first inclusion.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:53

But you can argue the three-point line's fucking ruined basketball.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:57

It took it 35 years, though, to ruin it. Yeah. I don't think it ruined basketball. I I mean, I I think the three-point line might be a good one. Tush push. I know you guys aren't hockey guys, but getting rid of the two-line pass was a big one to make the game more fun. Yep. Um football, I really couldn't think of one.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:16

Like there's been nothing major. You know what, Doug? I got a question for you. I don't like they keep tinkering with the kickoffs to try and make it safe and exciting, and they still haven't gotten that right.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:28

You know what I hate? I hate, I hope I say this right, the forward progress. Like when you tackle somebody and you get push the pile back. Yeah, and they their guy's still trying to run and he's not going anywhere, but then they put him back three yards and they go, Oh, you're back up here where you started. Or when you catch them all.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:47

It's not supposed to be that way.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:48

Listen, we're gonna stop with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:50

I'm an offensive coach, so I'm all for forward progress. If I was a defensive coach, I probably would say no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:55

But I I the three-point line was the only one I could think of, or the shot clock, because now you're not getting the four corners offense and all that.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:03

So we like ABS for if you wanted to go, I mean, the the playcock and in football.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:10

The playcock? Did I say that right now?

SPEAKER_03 1:55:14

What's Doug thinking about right now?

SPEAKER_05 1:55:17

Dougie, Dougie play cocky.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:24

You talk about you mentioned football to Doug, and he's like, playcock, playcock. All right, do we agree? We agree that we like the play cock. Yep, definitely. And we like ABS. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:36

I just wanted to know like it's it's because it's been the best one.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:39

There should be more of more ABS.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:41

It's maybe the the pitch clock is I would say is even better than the three-point line. Yeah, it keeps that game moving.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:48

Like what's what's the stats been though? How how much have they spent the game on?

SPEAKER_01 1:55:54

Oh, sped? Oh, I don't remember the actual numbers.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:59

I'm just curious. Yeah, let me look up the pace of play since the the uh Well, you're doing that.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:05

I'm gonna ask these guys what they think about AJ. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. So we all watch baseball together, and I was thinking about it today. Like, I'd love to hear what you guys think of. Is AJ Hinch like overmanaged? Like, you know, my brother, Brian, gets fucking pissed when Carpenter's out of the lineup or you take Colt Keith out, you know, or you leave righties. The lefty righty matchup things that AJ Hinch is doing, like, do you guys like it or are you getting sick of it, or what's the deal?

SPEAKER_02 1:56:36

I think it's like anything else. When it works, you like it, when it doesn't, you don't, but I I think I think you have to put up with it because I don't think that his I think his results speak for itself. I mean, the the playoff run they made last year with what they had to do with on offense and and to really be one play away from making it to the to the championship series. I I I how do you argue with a guy when we had I mean we actually had a game in the playoffs where we had to pull our face of the franchise offensive guy off the field because he couldn't get a hit. Yeah. So real quick you have an all-star. What other team has an all-star they're taking out of the campus?

SPEAKER_01 1:57:21

That's what I'm saying at any moment. But that's what I'm saying. But he has he's a fucking all-star.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:26

I know, and he had to pull him. Yeah, but he had to. Did he? Yeah, he was what I mean. We'll never know. The guy couldn't hit the ball.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:32

I'm getting sick of it. I think, I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:34

But like today, uh, the day we were reporting, it worked like you don't remember when it worked because you know he pinch hits Jamai Jones for Carrie Carpenter, and bang, single that scores two runs. Now they fucked off and lost the game. Yeah. But that's a situation where it worked. Real quick, uh, the last year without the pitch clock, it would the average the average game was three hours and three minutes. Last year, the average game was two hours and thirty-eight minutes.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:56

So almost 30 minutes back. I know you're always in a hurry, you got shit to do, so that's that works.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:02

No, I listen, I I'm I'm I'm all for medical. And it gives you and it gives it a rhythm. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:06

Because the you you saw the clips like the first year of like what it was without it, and you'd see guys like, all right, go to this. Yeah, like no, and and everyone's like, well, in the playoffs, no one mentioned it, noticed it in the playoffs. Like the first month or two, you'd get one or two a game. Now you get like one a series, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:27

So let's let's revisit the AJ Hinch thing next week. Okay. I want I want you guys to pay attention more to this. We let's all I know we always do.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:36

We always watch it anyway, but like and I'm not mad at the guy, I think he's doing a great job.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:40

I'm getting sick about it. I compare it to the Dan Campbell fourth down. When it works, you just kind of go, all right, cool, we're still going, and you forget about it. When it doesn't, you're going, you son of a bitch, why is this guy that shouldn't be in the lineup hitting for Riley Green or Carrie Carpenter? And he strikes out, and you you get a more visceral reaction when it doesn't work compared to the you know joy you get when it does.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:06

You guys have seen me and my brother fight about this. Like my brother and I, we he's my best friend, but we fucking brawl about stuff like this. And my argument always was they're not that good, and we're winning because of him doing it. But I'm starting to the reason I brought this up, I'm starting to get sick of it. Like, I'm starting to like when Carpenter comes out in the fourth or fifth inning, forget Carrie Kennedy and there's two more at bats later with Jamai Jones up or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:32

All right, you say they're not that good, let's put it to the test. How often do you see him do it with Dylan Dingler and Kevin McGonagall right now?

SPEAKER_03 1:59:39

None. None because they're good players. Yeah. I'm with them on the bottom. I think the Tigers. Once it hurts them enough to be mad about it, then we have a conversation. Right now, the guy has gone to the playoffs two years in a row with a team. With a team that's kind of, I mean, who am I gonna do that? They have a bunch of ball players, they're good ball players.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:55

They're all eight hitters on other teams.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:57

Yeah, I think that's a little much, but I don't know. I think they have bigger problems right now. I think you I think you have a giant cavern at first base right now to form a first round pick. He's terrible. And you can't take him down because he'll be DFA. Yeah. I mean, I understand keeping Carrie Carpenter in the lineup, but with when him and Riley Green are on the corners, I mean, you you need the greatest, you need the greatest center fielder of all time to cover for all their mistakes.

SPEAKER_03 2:00:24

Bring up pearls.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:26

Name name somebody that's not an eight-hitter in that lineup. McGonagall. Okay, Riley Green's McGonagall. And that guy played for three wheels.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:35

Riley Green. Okay. Riley Green, Ryan Carpenter, Dylan Dingler. He might be the best player in the best catcher in the league. I love him.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:41

No, I shouldn't have to be a good thing. Riley McGreen is frustrating, but come that's an overreaction to say he's an eight-hitter. He's a six or seven hitter. He's he's a six-hitter on a championship team.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:52

McGonagall, Dingler. Yeah. I mean, Colt Keith has hit well all year.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:57

So that's half the lineup. McDonaghal.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:00

McGonagall and Dingler. Those are the two guys. Torres. Okay, so six of their guys. You're saying six. I'm saying three. Torres is a is a two-hitter. He's a legit two-hitter.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:15

An eight-hitter is saying you are barely on the team. I you are you are either undervaluing these guys or propping up what it means.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:25

We have more eight-hitters than two hitters. I disagree.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:29

I kind of agree. We don't have any true three-hitter. McDonald's probably one day.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:35

I think I want you to go through, Mike, and we'll re when we revisit this, go through a bunch of other teams that aren't the Dodgers or the Blue Jays and go, how many eight-hitters do they have? And really, because I think especially and I'm not making an old joke, but people of a certain of an older generation are used. Well, can I make my point here? Can I make my point is that you guys are used to, like growing up, you'd have three guys in the lineup hitting 310. Yeah. That's just not the case anyway. There's three guys in the league now. Yeah, now if you're hitting 265, you're hitting for a pretty good average. So I think sometimes you're you're warped or you get a warped view of what a two-hitter should be because you're used to like Kenny Lofton being there, who's hitting 328, and that guy just doesn't exist anymore. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:24

Tony Gwynn, man. Bring back Tony Gwyn.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:26

Yeah, like they're those just those kind of players just. By the way, did you know that Lou Whitaker's war is better than Tony Gwynn's? Yeah. I was going through that the other day. Wow. It's Lou, that's another.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:36

Still not in the hall?

SPEAKER_01 2:02:37

No. No.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:38

So well, uh, anyway, uh, we've got places to be. So, guys, glad we're all back in studio. Me too.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:45

I'm glad you guys are back. It feels better. And you're gonna have a lot of fun when we're doing the uh we're going live and we're gonna do the GLIAC tournament. Oh, yeah, are we just gonna announce that?

SPEAKER_04 2:02:55

We're gonna be covering the GLIAC tournament from Jimmy Johns Field. So I'll start with UWM.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:01

And it's UWM, and UWM people are allowing us to do it, so we're not gonna say Jimmy Johns anymore.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:06

Well, that's why I corrected myself. It's a UWM.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:09

No, it's gonna be fun. We've never done a live show. We'll be pulling it.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:13

We're gonna figure out the logistics of it. Might just say live, and I don't know if it's gonna be live, but we will be on location. It's gonna be live. We're gonna be on location. So, all right, guys, glad you were back, and uh, we'll talk to you next week here on the Walk Outs podcast. Peace.