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Hey movie lovers and fascism haters! Our latest episode of Barred Movies isn't a movie at all but an episode of the original Twilight Zone series. Join hosts Brandon Wilhelm and Kelly Swails and guest Dacey Arashiba as they discuss "The Encounter." This episode first aired on May 1st, 1964 and features Neville Brand as a WWII veteran, George Takei as a Japanese-American man looking for landscaping work, and a stolen katana that may or may not be out for revenge.
We paired our chat with a bottle of Moon on the Water sake; we chose this one because it was brewed using water from Hiroshima. Cheers!
Also, a production note: we recently upgraded our audio equipment (yay!) but the new microphones are quite sensitive, which resulted in interference when we hit the table for emphasis. Please be patient as we work out the kinks.
Hey everybody, welcome to Bard Movies, the podcast that mixes band movies, booze, and conversation into one delightfully chaotic mix. I'm your host, Kelly Swales.
SPEAKER_01I'm your other host, Brandon Wilhelm.
SPEAKER_00And today we're going to be talking about an old band episode of the Twilight's on the zone called The Encounter. So uh buckle in, gang, because it's gonna get a little old school in here today. And I'll let him introduce himself.
SPEAKER_02Hi, my name is Dacey Arashiba. I'm a Japanese American from Minnesota. Um I don't know what else to say. I've uh I was a Japanese American in Minnesota at a Japanese American rock band. You were in Stir Crazy? Uh and then I was in a Japanese American comedy group called Stir Friday Night. Uh it's a Chicago, it's Chicago's longest-running sketch comedy group.
SPEAKER_00So welcome, Daisy. Thank you so much for joining us. Before we kind of get into the meat of our discussion, I want to mention that I'm pairing this with um sake. I buy sake like I buy wine, which is I look at the label and it's pretty and I bought it. So that's what I did. And specifically, I thought this one was apparently made with the famous soft water of Hiroshima. And since it's, you know, we've got some World War II kind of action happening. Right. I thought it was appropriate. So cheers, guys. Cheers.
SPEAKER_02Cheers.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's lovely.
SPEAKER_02It is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it says here on the label that it's um sort of full-bodied and it's on the fruity floral end. And yeah. Yeah. It's lovely.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Yeah, no, I mean, I I like it. I I don't have big opinions on sake, but like sometimes they're like too fruity or too cloudy, or it's like I again, like like I like hams. I like an old man's sake. And this and this actually suits me quite well.
SPEAKER_00Uh we're we're we're simple folk here at the Swales Wilhelm household. Very good. Alright, so let's get to the episode. Brandon, do you want to talk to us about the encounter?
SPEAKER_01Well, this is an episode of the Twilight Zone from the fifth season, the final season. Uh I didn't get a lot of time to go do too much research on it, but I from what I was able to read, it looks like the fifth season is where it started to kind of fade out. Um I read a couple reviews where people were talking about the writer of this episode and how he had written only one other Twilight Zone and it also wasn't great. Um, but this is basically a story of a young Japanese American uh played by George Takay, comes to uh older white man's house, the older white man's played by Neville Brand from uh old film Noirs and Westerns. And he has a samurai sword that he took from a body in World War II, and the samurai sword may or may not want revenge, and also you get uh basically a story of prejudice between two people who um have reason to hate each other and cannot just can't seem to find any common ground between them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I think that's a pretty good synopsis. Daisy, what are your thoughts overall on the episode?
SPEAKER_02I thought the episode was was cool for a Twilight Zone. I mean, Twilight Zones will do that where they'll just have like a two-hander. Sure. And and and George Decay and uh what uh Neville Brandt. Neville Brandt acted their asses all.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02They they played it so good and they played it so hard. And yeah, I it it it was it was uh uh I guess I it was cool to watch, and it was also cool to see how it like it develops. Uh when you're saying it was like uh season five, it's also like one of the last episodes of season five.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like episode 31 or something, it's right at the tail end.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but it it's it's great how it starts. It's like, hey, I I'm I'm coming here. I just like a I'm uh I'm a local gardener and I can take care of your lawn. And the other guy's like, yeah, that sounds a great idea, but you know, why don't you come up here and let's drink beer together? Which is almost sort of like a I don't not sure about that, but yeah, it's like oh come on, come on. And I believe it because I've often gone up and drank beer with people who I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Well, okay, I it's also I don't think it's made clear in the episode where in the country this is set, but as a Midwesterner, and if someone invites you in for a beer, you're gonna go inside and have the beer. Oh yeah. You know.
SPEAKER_01Uh I think it's Hawaii.
SPEAKER_02Is are they mentions Honolulu at one point. Oh well, he mentions Honolulu, but I don't know that they're necessarily in Honolulu anymore.
SPEAKER_00Because I think he yeah, because George uh Takai's character like grew up in Hawaii. Right. But I don't know if they're still in Hawaii.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that was maybe I just read that somewhere.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01It might not be true.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Well, I thought the um immediately I thought like the set design was was really great. It's like, okay, yeah, it's like you're it's it's cramped and it's cluttered and it's a little claustrophobic. A little claustrophobic. And also it's like once they're up in the attic, it's like they're both like sweaty. Yeah. And I thought that was like a really good touch in terms of you know how you're visually telling the story, because it's like you're you're watching them and it's like, oh my god, there's no fan in there. This is terrible. Right.
SPEAKER_02And you know that that one guy's like pretty much lit already.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, he's like, yeah, half in the bag.
SPEAKER_02Right. And so he's sweaty, but he doesn't care because he's got a cold one right there. Yeah. And and and you know, and uh Taro, Arthur, is like being forced to take a beer, and he's like, okay, I'll take one, but mostly because it's a freaking hot attic.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I thought, to your point, Brandon, I think overall the episode's not, it's not like in the S tier, right, of of Twilight Zone episodes. Probably put it in like maybe the C or D tier, at least of the episodes I've seen. Not that's not saying it's bad. It's just not like an amazing episode. Having said that, though, I thought that the writers did a really good job with sort of like the um the way that abusers talk in terms of like like gaslighting, in terms of you're so sensitive, get over yourself, you're fine, tarot. Oh, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02Just just kidding.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ha ha ha, just kidding. And also the way he the way the white guy constantly misnames Arthur. It's like, hey, you know, my name's Arthur, you know. Oh no, but what's your real name? Oh, okay. Yeah, here we go. I just thought I thought that was a really well-done aspect of that. And how he's constantly victim blaming, nothing's his fault, everything else sucks.
SPEAKER_02Right. And I mean it in and the what's your real name? I mean, that's sort of like a thing that everybody from another country has to deal with at some point where it's like, where are you from? And you'll be like, I'm from I'm from Duluth. And they're like, no, no, where are you really from? Yeah. Which sucks. Yeah, I mean, it but it depends again, it all comes down to you know, what's the intention? And at that point, that guy's intention is a little on the, you know, it it seems a little on the hinky side, but we don't know yet.
SPEAKER_00Right, right. And also, I think, too, we need to think about I'm not I'm gonna say this and I want to preface this by saying that I'm not I'm not excusing him or the era or whatever. No. But you know, this was filmed 20 years, 15 years after World War II.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh a lot of Twilight episodes, Twilight Zone episodes deal with the aftermath of World War II in a lot of ways. Oh, sure. And I think that aspect was well done. It's like you're you wouldn't expect this guy to be like super chill with a Japanese dude necessarily.
SPEAKER_02No, I grew up in 1970s Duluth. People were still not cool with Japanese dudes. No. Oh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what do you think, Brandon?
SPEAKER_01Um, yeah, I agree with kind of everything you're saying. I found I did find the episode a little uh thematically muddled. I think it was probably trying to do a little too much between discussing how guilt can turn into racism, how you blame somebody else for I guess I should preface that with uh Neville Brand. Uh he says he got this samurai sword because he killed the soldier. Turns out the soldier was surrendering, and he had orders to not take prisoners, so he killed him and then took it. And George Takay figures that out when he picks up the sword, and that's where the supernatural is. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a little muddled. Like, I almost wish they would have picked just like how people deal with guilt or the supernatural element, because it they sort of like bump heads and don't get developed really well. Yo, that's fair. Yeah. But I do agree, like, I think the acting's great. I think at least the writing is attempting something. Um I actually looked up the writer, I think his name's Martin Goldsmith, and he also wrote the only other things I've seen by him are Phil Noir movies, which also are a response to coming back from World War II and feeling like you don't belong. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I did kind of like how it's like new information kind of keeps coming out. Um, so that was fairly well paced, I thought, in my opinion. I forget what the inscription on the so the sword is a katana, um, and there's an inscription on it.
SPEAKER_02It's like the sword will avenge.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I I would agree that I think that the supernatural element of the story wasn't quite as as beefed up as I would have liked, or or made as clear. And, you know, like Twilight Zone episodes are I don't want to say cheaply produced, but you know, it's usually one set. You're not doing flashbacks, you're not doing anything like really fancy or anything with the. Right, exactly. They're not they're not crazy in terms of production, right? Right. But I just don't know if there if there would have been a way with like like something echoey or or like the music or something.
SPEAKER_02You're exactly I mean like here we are, you know, 70 years down the line. Yeah. Um but it's like, yeah, it they could have given it like a little musical note, a musical theme, a chime or something. Right. That that would just indicate that like something weird is happening here a little more clearly. Right, right. I mean, they had they relied on George Ske, who was like, I'm gonna kill him. But why? I'm gonna kill him. And George is selling the line, but it could have it could have had like a little underpinning to support it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, I would I would totally agree with that. I yeah, I think too, I think um, what's his name? The guy that was playing Fenton. I think it kind of comes out well that, you know, he was in the war, he couldn't take prisoners, he had to kill this guy, had to, quote unquote. And I think they they talk about like guilt and how that sort of trauma of being in a war like fucks up your life without expressly saying that in so many words. You know, like he's obviously he feels guilt about this. He's kept the sword, even though it's just like jammed up in his attic and right, you know, it's not like on display or anything. He's a drunk, you know, he clearly drinks a lot, he's drinking a lot throughout the entire episode. Uh it's revealed that he's lost his job because he was drinking on the job. Um and his wife has just left him. And his wife has just left him because of his drinking and stuff, and obviously the the drinking is to help deal with the shit that he did back in World War II. I thought all of that was really well done. I have to say though that watching this, I was like, okay, okay, this is a little heavy-handed with the racism because he does, you know, obviously he treats Arthur the way he treats Arthur, but then he goes on a screed about, you know, like he lost his job and you know, so what? He was drinking a few beers while he's, you know, operating heavy machine heavy machinery. It's fine. Um, but then says something along the lines of, you know, like the foreigners are all taking all the jobs, it's the Mexicans, it's the Japanese, it's the Chinese, whatever. Like they're coming in and we just let anybody in and they're just taking our jobs. And I think if I had seen this episode like 10 years ago, I would have been like, all right, you're you've made your point. The guy's a racist, the guy's a douche canoe, it's fine. You you've you've made it. Now, watching it, it's like, well, this just sounds like your racist uncle on Facebook on Tuesday, you know. So it's like, yeah, no, this is really how these people think. And it's not like a character caricature, it's not a stereotype. It's like, no, there these people exist. This is like MAGA in a nutshell.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, there's a lot of there's a lot of racial resentment uh in there. I mean, and this is a guy who came back from the war, damaged, absolutely, but he also got like VA Bill, he that helped him buy the house, that helped him, you know, you know, with job placement and everything else. And it's like one of you said something earlier about like how he's not he's the film Northing, where you're just like a stranger in your own land.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I think that feeling is like being it it is, it's just like you're somebody who has gone through like such an estrange, awful experience, and you can't deal with it, but you're also, you know, I I'm a 45-year-old white dude. Yeah. Why can't I feel good? And it's because I'll and it's because of something else. Yeah. Who knows what if he's listening to like John Bercher radio programs or something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. So I thought that was illuminating. I will say that allegedly this episode, it would it originally aired and then it must have received some pushback or something because they took they took it out of syndication, but it was because of the racial overtones of the episode allegedly, and it didn't get back into syndication until 2016, which is bonkers to me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think it even uh they didn't include it on a few DVD sets. Right. It was just gone.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy. And now watching the episode, I'm like, mm, I'm kind of wondering if this was banned because we don't want to show that white people are assholes all the time.
SPEAKER_02Well, so uh I was kind of zooming around and I found George Takei uh talking about this, and it sounds like it was banned because there was uh an Asian American uh committee talked to talked to uh the Twilight Zone producers and just said, like, no, we don't like this. And I think it's not just I don't think it's just the racism. I think that uh that would be fine. Yeah. But it was the story that uh Arthur Taro tells of his father who is the traitor who is like guiding in the the ships or the the planes and bombing Pearl Harbor. And having okay, so full disclosure, being Japanese American, having gone to college, I study Japanese American history. Sure. Um and there's no there is absolutely no in the FBI files anywhere of any sort of treason from Japanese citizens. And but there's still that lurking out there, and certainly you know, within 20 years of World War II, and they they just didn't want to be stirring that shit up. Oh, is that what it was? Okay. Because George Decay doesn't say, but this is this is what I'm thinking. It's like, no, the Japanese Americans have like tried real freaking hard to be like the best citizens. I mean the the ones who went to the concentration uh the the American uh camps. Yeah, they were concentration camps, concentration camps, Manzanar and Thule Lake and all that stuff. That that is where you get the 442nd, which is the that became the most decorated brigade in Europe. Um they I mean, and this is even and they're being pulled out of the camps that they've been put in because they're not good enough citizens. Right. Like, we're gonna be great citizens. So it's those guys going like, if you're gonna make us traitors, right, then fuck all the way off. Right. So and and and and and it and it's fiction, and I think you know, Rod Sterling or whoever that made the decision is like, yeah, you're probably right. We made that up for the story, and that you know, I mean, uh anybody who's writing a story understands that they're creating folk tales.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And folktales stick. Sure. And probably just wanted to get away from that.
SPEAKER_00I hadn't considered that angle, and that makes a whole lot of sense to me. Where it's like, yeah, we're we're kind of stoking this, you know, Japanese American hatred hatred with this storyline.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, you know, Fenton's already talking about like, we were taught that you weren't even human, you were just some sort of primate in the jungle. Yeah. Which is Which is true.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, look if you go back and look at any of the cartoons or any of the you know Yeah, those old War Brother cartoons. Oh, good God.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01There's a reason you don't see those much anymore.
SPEAKER_00I mean, but that's true of any uh war type scenario, right? Oh, absolutely. Where you know it's happening today and in wherever in God it's happening today in the states against the immigrants and Mexicans and black people, it's happened in Gaza, it's happening everywhere.
SPEAKER_02Well, they just I mean, the the the the Japanese timing was good because it was like right after the Eisenhower recovery. If you're right between like where Kennedy's been shot, and now we've got you know Lyndon B. Johnson like keeping on with the civil rights, it's like this is a good time to complain about being misrepresented.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's like unlike now, where oh, you people don't like the way you're being represented. Tough bounce, we're gonna go bomb another country.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, I hadn't considered that angle, but that makes a lot of sense. However, having said that, one thing I always ask for every episode of the podcast is should this should this media be banned? And my answer is generally always no. Because media bans suck and censorship sucks and fuck off. So I'll put the question to you guys: should this episode be removed from syndication? Should we be not be allowed to watch it?
SPEAKER_01Personally, uh, no, it shouldn't be. I think the intention of the episode, however misguided it may be at points, is to show how that guilt gets transferred to people who don't deserve it. It may not totally hit that point super well, I think, especially the end where he jumps out the window yelling bonsai. It's a little weird.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I didn't quite get the I didn't get that. I mean, it was a cool shot, you know.
SPEAKER_02It's a cool shot, but yeah, it's a little No, uh Kate, my girlfriend and I were talking about this. It's like, you know, it's a real goofy ending, but it's a cool shot. And we know that you can't leave through the regular door, you know. But well, I guess we're gonna jump out a window. With a with a katana. Jump out a window with a sword and screaming some crazy stuff.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I think I've empty exited the party at least like that once.
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean, whoom'st amongst us. Fair. Uh yeah. So what do you think? Banned or not banned? Not banned.
SPEAKER_02No, I the I just I trust I tr I trust the Twilight Zone. I don't know, this sounds weird. But it's like they always had the good messages. Right. Um and the thing is it's like not everybody's gonna go back and watch it, and I don't think this is gonna inspire any racial hatred in anybody who's not racist.
SPEAKER_00Who wouldn't have already had it, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But it's also a it's a good artifact to understand. It's like, no, we we've we've kind of been like this. Like the people who came back from the war hated the Japanese. Their kids probably hated the Japanese. I grew up in Japan, you know, in Duluth in the 1970s, and people were still pretty hinky about the Japanese.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02And um it's it's like, you know I rem okay, I remember talking to my uh to a very good friend of mine who who uh a guy named Don uh in Minneapolis in the 90s. And he was mad because he's an older white dude, and he's like there's been so much done to like get you know racial equality from the civil rights icon to why are people still complaining about racism? And I'm like, dude, this is um you're not seeing it. The racism still exists, and it is it is like it's it's transferred down. I mean, basically like folklore, like childhood stories. It's like this is how your grandfather feels about this, this is how your dad feels about this, and this is all gonna feed into your head. Yeah, whether or not it's through osmosis or explicitly told or Right, and and Don, I think, would not consider himself out of I mean, would not consider himself a racist, and I wouldn't consider Don a racist. But his frustration with the racism is like, dude, get out of your own head and look around you.
SPEAKER_00Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01That's yeah, generally how it happens. Uh like somebody has decided at one point, like, yeah, I'm not racist. And then it almost gives them free will to say racist things and think racist things, but they've got this cover, like, well, but I'm not.
SPEAKER_00Right. Well, because there's always somebody worse, right? Like, well, yeah, look at that guy. Like, that guy's actually the racist. I might have a few biases, but I'm not a racist.
SPEAKER_02But I'm not David Duke.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh I saw this was uh years ago, I think during the George Floyd protests, I saw this interview with a guy who was complaining about the Confederate statues being torn down. He's like, uh, you know, they're turned down Robert E. Lee, but I get I walk down the street and I'm seeing Martin Luther, and then he throws out uh slur instead of King, and then he stops and goes, I shouldn't have said that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but that was the first thing that popped in your head.
SPEAKER_00Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01You need to go home and really think hard on that, and you won't.
SPEAKER_00And yeah, you need to do some self-self-awareness, self-intro intro introspection, and yeah, that's not gonna happen.
SPEAKER_01Idea I wanted to bring up too this is this came out in 64. There's a movie from 59, a French film called Hiroshima Manomor. And it's about a French actress who's filming a movie in Japan, and she meets this Japanese businessman, and it kind of takes place over the course of a night, and it kind of has the same idea where the actress dated a German soldier during the occupation and was ostracized from her village for it. Um the Japanese guy, he was a pilot in World War II, and while he was out flying missions, the bombs dropped on Hiroshima.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_01So the movie is about both of them discussing like their guilt. Like, he's guilty because he wasn't there for his family and he couldn't do anything for them, and she's carrying this guilt of like, I betrayed my people, but also then they betrayed me. And I think it does a I mean, granted, they have two hours, this show has 25 minutes, but it does a much better job of addressing that guilt and dealing with that guilt and what it does to people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that sounds cool.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, and it's real guilt. Although I will say, when George Kay is like talking about his confession, you know, he's g he's given the story about how his dad built Pearl Harbor, but then his how his dad bombed Pearl Harbor. Again, the acting when he is confessing to a stranger how his father betrayed the United States and how much it hurt him, you can see it's killing him.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah. Like this is something that he's held inside for a long time and probably has never told anyone.
SPEAKER_02Right. And I think also the guilt of that guy shooting the unarmed guy because, well, those are my orders, but also realizing like this is a heavy weight that's gonna live with you. And I think that's really what they were trying to get at. But to your point, between that and the the supernatural sword and all this other stuff, and in fact the made-up story, they could have done it, could have been cleaner. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was overall. I think there's a lot of things that were well done, but I think the overall impression I got from the episode were it was like a little bit clunky.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they should have stuck with the guilt. I mean, if they wanted to go with like a supernatural sword, Japan Japan is Shinto. Everything's invested with some sort of spirit at some point. They had they had options. They had options. Man, I remember being a little kid and like reading a story about like an enchanted teapot that like an old priest is putting it onto the fire, and like all of a sudden the leg the teapot sprouts legs. It's like, oh, don't heat me up. I'm a raccoon dog. And so he and so the priest is mad, and like all of his acolytes like get the teapot, and then finally the teapot's back to being a teapot, and they're like, fuck this, and they sell it to an old pedlar. And and the and and the and the teapot's like, don't put me on the fire, but otherwise I can walk on a tightrope, but we can make some money. So I mean, Japan's like like whatever made-up crazy haunted sword thing you want to have, Japan's got it. Right. Japan's got examples. But also in 1964, they probably weren't looking for the source material.
SPEAKER_00Probably not. Probably not. Nobody's looking at Lafkati O'Hearn.
SPEAKER_01Uh, especially probably this guy who has written, you know, it his film noirs were very B movies. They weren't huge, they're kind of known more today, but they were never like the classics. We're not talking like Maltese Balkin or something. But uh he did one called Detour, which uh is really highly regarded and I don't love for a lot of the same reasons I found in the episode. I think it's a little thin. I don't think it hits its themes directly the way it wants to.
SPEAKER_02Um it's good, it's got good ideas, but it doesn't get there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, hey, do you guys have any final thoughts on the episode or are we all tapped out?
SPEAKER_01Oh, one thing I wanted to bring up, I did like that when he is talking about how he can't take prisoners, which was I did look that up, it was a real thing. When they were island hopping, there just wasn't anywhere to put them. So it was like, don't take prisoners. And he says I was following orders, and I like that juxtaposition of I'm using the Nazi excuse to excuse myself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what am I supposed to do? Like my superior said that, so I have to, I have to do this. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And that I'm thinking they're pretty they were probably pretty aware of when they were filming that episode with the Nuremberg trials and everything. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, and also it's like how how you have to live with yourself, right? Right. You know, absolutely 100%. I think 10 years from now, former ICE agents are going to finally re-regrow their spine and realize what they've done. Some of them, not all of them.
SPEAKER_01I think it's happened in the sum right now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and they're like, oh shit, you know, I did some shit. And yeah, you're gonna have to fucking live with that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Or for example, the one um, the guy who I can't remember if he shot Renee Good or um Pretty Pretty, but he lives in Illinois. No no one he knew knew he was in ice. He kept that a secret. And if you're not willing to tell your friends what you do for a living, it's probably not a good job. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or yeah, you have to kind of question that, right? Like the morality of like, hey, I've got this job, and you know, I just drive around and put people in the car and they cart him off to a concentration camp, but you just don't tell anybody. Yeah, that's that's that's an indicator that maybe you didn't shouldn't be doing that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Ugh.
SPEAKER_00Ugh. Gross. Well, on that note. All right. Cheers. To hell with racists.
SPEAKER_02To hell with racist. And also, if you get a haunted sword, just bury it.
SPEAKER_00I think you know what, I think that's just good life advice. If you come across the haunted artifact, either burn it, bury it, or pawn it off on a baby.
SPEAKER_02Or see if the spirit inside it can do tightrope walking and you can make a fortune.
SPEAKER_00Or that. So you've got options. Right. You've got options. Well, hey, Daisy, thank you so much for joining us for this episode. This has been a lot of fun, and I'm really glad that you came on and gave us your insight into the encounter, uh, the episode of the Twilight Zone.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely my pleasure. Thank you both. Thank you.
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