Old Skool Flags Vs New Skool Flags

Old School Love vs New School Love — which one really works in today’s dating world? 👀💔💚

On this episode of Flag Us, Twonn and Whitney dive deep into modern relationships, dating culture, loyalty, situationships, cheating, social media boundaries, gender roles, and whether old school love was actually better than today’s dating scene.

From “soft launching” your partner to entertaining DMs, relationship transparency, cheating double standards, serial dating, and why situationships became the new normal — this episode gets REAL fast. 😮‍💨

The conversation gets heated as they debate:
 🔥 Are people dating for love or convenience?
 🔥 Is loyalty dead in modern dating?
 🔥 Should men still lead relationships?
 🔥 Is flirting while in a relationship cheating?
 🔥 Privacy vs transparency — where’s the line?
 🔥 Are traditional gender roles making a comeback?
 🔥 Why do modern relationships fail so fast?

If you’ve ever questioned whether dating was easier back in the day or if social media ruined relationships, this episode is for you.

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Transcript

Whitney 0:05

Um when it comes to like roles, do you think roles should still exist? Like many people.

Twonn 0:13

If you get older, like the hate in you comes out more and more and more.

Whitney 0:18

Yeah, because at first I want to be very independent and do my own thing and not need a man for anything, but I don't want to work anymore. I am a working progress. Okay. Yeah, I'm tired of working. It's hard out here.

Twonn 0:37

And welcome back to Flag Us, uh, the podcast where we bring up all the red flags that you should not be ignoring and all the green flags that you should still ignore.

Whitney 0:51

So we just okay.

Twonn 0:55

Um, I'm Twan. I'm with. And this is Flag Us. Uh fifth episode. We moving along, Whitney.

Whitney 1:04

We are, we are. I'm actually proud of us.

Twonn 1:08

Yeah?

Whitney 1:08

Yeah. See the vision? See the vision? I do see it.

Twonn 1:11

Before I was, wait, wait. All right, all right, all right. I guess this is the time that I get to gloat. So I was delusional. It's delusional until it starts working, huh? What are you talking about? Is it delusion? People call you delusional when they don't see the vision. They like, oh, he's crazy. Yeah, I was crazy at first.

Whitney 1:32

I never said you were crazy.

Twonn 1:33

You definitely said I was crazy at first. So now that it works.

Whitney 1:39

What are you talking about? I saw you do this with the WSBU.

Twonn 1:42

So Okay. Okay, okay, all right, all right, all right. So don't you know? All right, all right, all right, all right. I got to get it. You try to get one off.

Whitney 1:51

Yeah, come on now.

Twonn 1:52

Real early in the pod. I tried to get one off. All right, anyway. Uh hi guys. Um, this is our fifth episode. We are moving along. We are uh a lot of traction. Thank you for your uh comments, subscribes, support, the support. It's been amazing.

Whitney 2:11

It has been. Thank you guys.

Twonn 2:13

All right, Whitney.

Whitney 2:17

What's up?

Twonn 2:19

Um, how are you?

Whitney 2:22

I'm doing good. I'm doing good.

Twonn 2:23

I haven't really seen you this week.

Whitney 2:25

I know. Our work schedules have been very conflicting at times for sure.

Twonn 2:30

So I'll wait to show you all my red flags for the pod. Oh, yeah. I'll wait to show you. Ooh, I'm like, I'll be sitting there, I'm like, oh, I work, ooh, I'm gonna kill, I'm gonna kill with this.

Whitney 2:40

So since we haven't really got time to see each other that much this week, like what are some we're gonna do our flag of the week. So what's the red flag that you saw this week?

Twonn 2:51

Hmm, all right, red flag I seen for the week. Um, I'm noticing that at my job, I work with a lot of older guys. It's like the haters ball. It's like the haters' ball. If you ever watch Dave Chappelle's haters ball, that's my job. It's a bunch of old men, older men, and they just sit around hating on each other. Like they pocket watch. It's like it's really, I don't want to be that when I get older. I don't want to be that like they sit around and hate on you. Like, yo, if you get like 12 hours of OT, they pocket watching, like, yeah, I seen you over there, you get them 12 hours of OT. Like, oh, must must be nice. I'm just like, oh man, uh a guy at my uh at my job reached 25 years, and they just they just hating, like, the dude been here for 25 years, like give him some grace. Like, yes, so yeah, I'm starting to see red flags. If you get older, like the hate in you comes out more and more and more.

Whitney 3:49

Which is crazy because y'all work the same job, same thing. Same jobs. If they want to push a 12-hour shift, then why don't you push a 12-hour shift? You don't want to do it.

Twonn 3:58

And it's available, but it's just like, oh, they just rather sit back and watch you, and it's just like anyway. Yeah, that was my flag of the week. Uh the haters ball.

Whitney 4:08

Hater's ball. Well, I got the haters' ball at his job, okay? I mean, I guess that's in everybody's workplace, and at some point.

Twonn 4:15

Right. All right. So, what was your red flag of the week?

Whitney 4:18

Um, let's see. I had a few red flags of the week. You got a list? I wouldn't say a list, but I got a few. Um but I will say, like I said, we've been at work uh a lot this week. I've been doing two jobs, so I was working both my jobs this week, but I would say a red flag that I was seeing is um people who complain about certain things, but never provide like a solution. So if you're gonna sit here and talk about what's not working, this is not gonna work or this is not so. What is your solution? What do you think we can do better to fix something? They never come with a solution, it's always just like a lot of complaining. So that's a red flag that I was seeing um this week. And I just be like, shit, if you ain't gonna provide a solution, I suggest you sit on down and let the person who's gonna do the solution. It's kind of like a I guess it's like a test and trial, like if something doesn't work yet, you go back to you know, brainstorming or whatever the case might be. But don't be that person that's just gonna complain about something, but not really bringing a solution to the table. Because if that's the case, you sit on back and let the big people do the big job.

Twonn 5:27

Ooh, big montines, big months. That was one flag. You had any more flat flags? Because it seemed like you was just like in the red zone, just like Yeah, I think I'll just, you know, save them. Okay, okay.

Whitney 5:40

Save them. I can save it for another episode, you know. I don't want to get one off just so, you know, so quick in the game.

Twonn 5:47

You sure the last one went viral? You sure? I'm positive.

Whitney 5:51

I'm gonna hold on to this one tight. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna play my cards right, you know. I don't I don't shoot unless I get shot at.

Twonn 5:58

Ooh, I stay low, keep firing.

Whitney 6:02

Okay.

Twonn 6:03

Alright, so today's episode is um, you kind of came up with the segue.

Whitney 6:09

It's uh like old school and new school dating.

Twonn 6:13

Old school versus new school dating. Yes.

Whitney 6:16

What that kind of looks like.

Twonn 6:18

I'm kind of a who would you consider yourself, old school or new school?

Whitney 6:23

Um, I think I kind of maybe juggle between both.

Twonn 6:27

Okay, yeah, me. I was gonna say. I was gonna say the same thing. I'm kind of in between both. I like the old school rules, but the new school rules are like more efficient.

Whitney 6:38

The old school ways is like, uh, I wouldn't say more efficient in some aspects, but I mean we'll get into it as we ask these questions as we go through this segment.

Twonn 6:48

All right, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's go.

Whitney 6:51

All right. So the first question is Is loyalty different now than it was back then?

Twonn 6:58

Oh, absolutely. And I say that because loyalty now is just a word. It's just a word people use to just probably get one off. Like, oh yeah, I'm loyal. That's not the case. So now it's just like uh old school, uh, they really believe when it's when they say loyal, loyalty, they lived and breathed that ish. They lived and breathed that loyalty word. Now it's like, it's just like uh another word that I I commonly use that it really doesn't mean anything, bro. Yo, bro. Before it used to be, oh, that's my brother. You know, it used to carry so much weight. Now it's like it's just a word. Now it's just like, yo, that's my loyal friend.

Whitney 7:49

Are they really though? Are they really though?

Twonn 7:52

That's my loyal friend right there. Yeah, he's real loyal. And next thing you know, you're banging your wife, messing with your girl, or your or your sister, so yeah. So what do you think?

Whitney 8:03

Um yeah, I think back then, like, loyalty was seen as, you know, um don't cheat, stay commit, like stay committed. Um and of course, like when you go through bad times, like work through them. Nowadays, it's kind of like there's so many different stipulations when it comes to loyalty and cheating and you know, being in somebody's DM. Is that considered like cheating, or is it just considered as something that's being disrespectful or something that's going against your relationship? It's just like a bunch of different like kind of like stipulations when it comes to that. Um, and then also when it comes to like, you know, issues in a relationship, sometimes people just nowadays just jump ship, like, okay, that person's a red flag, or that person gives me the ick, so I'm just gonna go this way. I'm just gonna talk to this person, I'm gonna talk to that person. Like, they don't really stay there to kind of like, you know, work through certain things. So it's like, like you said, loyalty is just a word that people kind of like throw around, but do they know the true definition of loyalty? You get what I'm saying? Yeah like nowadays it's just like, oh yeah, you know, I'm loyal. I'm loyal, but you're not really loyal because the moment that things get hard, you jump shit like you jump shit quick.

Twonn 9:23

You know? I kind of um with the jump shit situation. I don't know if you notice. Well, I'm kinda in the loop of have you heard about the Megan and the uh Klay Thompson uh relationship breakup?

Whitney 9:42

Yes, I do see it. Like I'm on my you know, on my thread when I'm on social media, but I'm not really into like the whole celebrity relationship thing or you know, going and going deeper into somebody else's life. I kind of feel like, you know, as celebrities, like they're always put on a stage. Like they're people too. Like sometimes they need to have their own privacy and have that time to be able to work through their things because they're people just like we're people. But you know, by them being celebrities, it's just like their stuff is out there for the world to see, but there's so many people that are just regular people that are going through the same, you know, situation. So I tend not to, you know, go on the room.

Twonn 10:22

The only reason I brought it up was uh the fact that um I thought I really thought it was dumb. Like if he cheated in private, why you just couldn't deal with that situation and closed doors? If you didn't show up with him one day, oh it didn't work out. But you, you know, you kind of went on a rant. That that was it. That's as far as I'm gonna go with that whole uh Meg situation. But it was just I just found it funny.

Whitney 10:47

I feel like a lot of people do that. Like, even just like in everyday relationships, the moment that they're going some, like going through something, they always go to social media and they always want to post on social media. Yeah. I don't know if it's kind of like an attention grabber or you know, but I mean people are different. People, you know, deal with things differently. And sometimes, you know, people want to put it out there. And if it if that's what they like, then I'm not here to judge anybody.

Twonn 11:10

It seems like a lot of attention. And just like man, man, let that that man cheated in the privacy of his own, what you call it, why you just don't handle it in the privacy of your but as we done our our podcast, we know that you know situations like that brings a lot of, you know, it brings a lot of views.

Whitney 11:31

You know, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It gets people talking.

Twonn 11:36

I get it, I get it, I get it. It seemed like she got an album coming out.

Whitney 11:41

Like I said, I'm not gonna get into what she got going on, but I'm just saying, because there's sometimes where I read like a few things, I'm talking about like on my friends' pages, and you know, because I personally know them, and I see like them going through something, and I'm like, girl, let me go and read and then read comments and be nosy and stuff like that. So yeah, definitely the watcher. I'm watching. But it's it's an attention grabber. Like you're just like, oh shoot, like, wait, what did I miss? Right, and then you go back and you kind of like read on what kind of like happened. Then you, you know, you get the little scoop, and sometimes you'll come and sometimes you won't, sometimes you just behind the scenes. Just looking at everybody's situationships.

Twonn 12:21

All right, so I got a question. So are situationships like the new norm now?

Whitney 12:29

Absolutely, yeah. I think it is. I think it's because let's see. I think a lot of people want a relationship, but they don't want the responsibility that comes with a relationship. I felt that. They don't want like the title, like they want to be able to free, they want to like, yes, dealing with somebody, but they also want to be free to, you know, keep their options open or something like that. But I think that's kind of like where um things get blurry where people just be like, oh, you know, nobody dates for love anymore. It's like I don't think that's true. I think some people still love, they're just, you know, more cautious about it because of like past relationships and things that have happened, or um, you know, like situationships. Like, you know, somebody it's different when the two parties are not on the same page. Like someone is more, oh, it's a casual thing, but the other person's already like emotionally invested, and that's kind of like where the gray area is when it comes to like situationships. But I definitely think it's kind of like the new norm because people are just sometimes afraid of commitment in that aspect. Still wants the relationship portion, but don't really want everything that comes with being in a committed relationship.

Twonn 13:46

Okay, okay. Uh, I have another question I gotta ask you. And I've been trying to get this one. Wait, wait, wait. What are we doing? I've been trying to get this one off. I've been trying to get this one off. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Uh situationships are definitely the new normal. That's how I feel. Um, because now it's like uh while you're going through it, you're just trying to figure it out. Like now you don't have to put uh a title on everything. You do not I I I honestly feel you don't have to put a title on everything. If it feels right, then dive in. But if it doesn't, just pace yourself. It's not a what Nipsey says a marathon. It's not a race, it's a marathon. And if you plan to be in a run with this person for a very long time, pace yourself. We're not we not not trying to Don't rush it. Yeah, don't rush it. Don't rush it. Don't rush it. Because every time you rush something, it never pans out how you probably think it's gonna pan out.

Whitney 14:41

Okay. Then I feel like when it comes to situationships, there has to be some type of you know boundaries of you know, things like that. Because at the end of the day, you don't want to hurt that person either.

Twonn 14:52

Or do you?

Whitney 14:55

Yeah, I'm not the person to be out here playing with.

Twonn 14:58

Are you you crash out?

unknown 15:00

Huh?

Twonn 15:00

Are you a crash out?

Whitney 15:01

Am I a crash out?

Twonn 15:02

Recovering?

Whitney 15:03

It depends on the situation. I ain't gonna sit here and be like, oh, I don't get one off, or I don't definitely petty.

Twonn 15:10

All right, I give you that. I give you that, I give you that. Recovering, crash out.

unknown 15:15

Reflag, ref.

Whitney 15:16

No, I I am a work in progress. Okay. Whatever. What was your other question? Let's let's get to it.

Twonn 15:24

Alright, so I had a um I had a discussion with my homeboy. Um, so he's a stereo dater.

Whitney 15:31

I'm a friend, that's a stereo dater.

Twonn 15:32

It's a real stereo dater. I didn't think this is the real thing.

Whitney 15:34

When I heard when I heard of the stereo dater, a real thing.

Twonn 15:38

So he's a stereo dater. Um, it's this girl that he's been talking to that he um, I guess he's been talking to for a while, and he's like her comfort zone or his comfort zone, somebody's whoever comfort, they're comforting each other. So he brings her home to meet the family. And for me, I'm I know I've known him to do this plenty of times. But for her, it's like, oh my gosh, he's introducing me to his family. And I'm just like, oh man. So now she is heavily invested, as we probably she is heavily invested. But for him, this is a norm thing of introducing women that he's talking to to his family. Like, mom's probably got a whole bunch of daughter in law. Well, she probably thinks, oh, that's gonna be my mom-in-law. She probably has a bunch of daughter-in-laws running around in the streets. And I just want to get your is that a red flag? Like bringing your girlfriend or your or your significant other to your to meet your family.

Whitney 16:51

Um, I think, well, what you're saying as a serial dater, yes, it's definitely a red flag. It's definitely a red flag. It's a setup for something to pop off because family, like, even with me, like I have a friend that's a serial dater too. And every time, like I said, I'm not gonna sit here and judge her by what she does. But sometimes, like, I lose track of the names and the persons and the people that she's talking to. I think it would be the same thing with the family. So if you're constantly bringing, you're a serial dater, you're constantly bringing, you know, different women to your mom's house, what happens when your mom slips up and be like, say the wrong name? Because just last week, yeah, yeah, it was something it was Katie, and now this week it's Christy, and the week before it was Latanya. Like, yeah, definitely. It's too, it's too much. So I feel like if you want to be a serial dater, like, I don't think you should involve your family. I think when you bring somebody home to meet your family, it should be somebody that you're, you know, you can see yourself being with long term. Uh yeah, he definitely a red flag. He needs to tone it down.

Twonn 17:55

Alright, so is this the same concept when you introduce him to your friends?

Whitney 18:00

Um, uh, I don't think in that aspect, because when you're friends, like you said, you're his friend. You already know he's a serial daddy. You already know he's gonna be bringing different women around.

Twonn 18:10

So I mean, but family, the family knows, the family knows too.

Whitney 18:14

Then I mean it is what it is. You and your friend need to prey on it. Definitely prey on it because I tell them all the time, man.

Twonn 18:24

You shouldn't be introducing women to your family. That's kind of like an intimate thing. Like, I don't, I'm not introducing, like, I think my mom, my mom probably thought I was gay for a while. I kid you not. I kid you, I'm not bringing nobody home to meet my mom's. I'm not, I'm not bringing no body home to meet my mom's. That's like a secret thing.

Whitney 18:43

Even if you're not bringing them home, at least you tell your mom, oh yeah, you know I got this nice girl I'm talking to. Nah.

Twonn 18:48

Nah, because then my mom, oh, you should bring. And then she starts asking about her all the time. I don't want that pressure. I don't want that pressure. Oh, such and such. Oh, you tell me oh, she sounds like a good woman.

unknown 18:59

Nah, mom. Nah.

Twonn 19:01

Nah. I've seen some red flags this one.

Whitney 19:04

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Twonn 19:06

All right.

Whitney 19:08

All right, so so just off of that, so the next question I'm gonna ask, I'm kind of gonna jump around a question, but okay, so is privacy more important than transparency in a relationship?

Twonn 19:19

Hmm. I'm trying to think uh what I like. I like privacy. I'm a private person. Um I could be transparent with my person, but as far as like the world, nah. I don't like to include the world in my endeavors and what I'm doing. Like I'm just a private person.

Whitney 19:44

Okay, but I'm talking about like in a relationship. So when it comes, like, do you feel you need more privacy from your partner or transparency?

Twonn 19:52

Like, um, my partner, I think I need more transparency.

Whitney 19:58

Oh, you're talking about me.

Twonn 20:00

Oh, you know.

Whitney 20:01

You need more transparency. Wait. Oh, you're here. You're giving me more transparency or you need you more transparency? Because I'm I need to know.

Twonn 20:09

Either or the the shoe fits on both foots.

Whitney 20:12

Oh, okay. Well, are you done answering your question?

Twonn 20:16

Shoot.

Whitney 20:18

Now.

Twonn 20:19

Start shooting.

Whitney 20:21

Okay. Matter of fact, let me sit up in my seat real quick. Nah, I'm just okay. I no, I'm not gonna shoot. I'm not gonna shoot at you. I love you, man. I'm not gonna shoot at you. But what I'm gonna say is that I think privacy and transparency, I don't think there is no, like, I don't put one or like one over the other because I feel like for a healthy relationship, you need both. So we are still individual people. I don't feel like I need to tell you everything, and I'm sure you don't feel like you need to tell me everything. But being transparent as to where I stand with you or where you stand with me. Um, but there's gonna be times where you have like your privacy thoughts, and maybe you're not really to share that. It's not my place to sit there and pride. Like, say if I had a journal or something like that, would you go through my journal? Oh wow. You want to go through my journal. That is crazy. I would not go through his personal things because that is if I saw Tuan had a journal, which I don't think he does, but if you had like a butch, even if you had like a do have a journal. Even if you had like a what in your notes?

Twonn 21:44

I read in my notes every day.

Whitney 21:46

So even if you had in your notes, and it's your private notes, you could title it private thoughts. I don't think it's my place to go in there and look at your private thoughts. Like you're an individual person. I feel like if you wanted to share those thoughts with me. Then you would share those thoughts with me.

Twonn 22:01

And if not, then I need to know what's going on in that head of yours. No, you don't. I do.

Whitney 22:09

I need to know So why is it okay for you to have privacy, but you need to know all my thoughts?

Twonn 22:13

I need to no, I'm at privacy of I thought that question was like privacy in your relationship or your friendship. Like against the world. In today's relationship. No, no, no, no. I'm I'm I'm more of a transplant. Like the privacy is the part. Like I'm we we shower together. Like, how much more prior privacy can you get? There's not really much privacy in a relationship. Um so transparency is like the the next best thing.

Whitney 22:41

So yeah, but for a healthy relationship, I think there has to be some type of privacy because it's there's boundary, you know.

Twonn 22:46

Yeah, there's there's there's things like I'm pretty yeah, healthy boundaries. Like I've times I've seen you play your thousand rounds of candy crush, and I just let you have your moment. I let you, I don't I don't bother you. I go in my office and I just do my own thing. Okay, so yeah, but I would I would read your journal just to see what's going on in that head of yours.

Whitney 23:12

Those are my private thoughts, they're not yours.

Twonn 23:14

No, they're not yours. And if I want they're our private thoughts, they're not our private thoughts. Our private thoughts.

Whitney 23:20

Our we French, baby. We we, we, no, they're my private thoughts. You stay on your side of the bed with your notes and your journal, and I'll stay on my side of the bed with my privacy.

Twonn 23:35

Wow.

Whitney 23:36

And if I want to share my thoughts with you, I'll share my thoughts with you.

Twonn 23:39

All right, this is about to get heated anyway, so we should get into another segment.

Whitney 23:43

But you know where you stand with me, right?

Twonn 23:46

We should get into another segment. Let's start.

Whitney 23:49

Yeah, let's start another. You're getting on my nerves.

Twonn 23:52

Let's start flag on the play. Yeah, yeah. Rapid fire, baby.

Whitney 23:59

I don't know about no rapid fire. Rapid fire is no, like I like you said, this is my segment, and mine's is not called no rapid fire, okay? It's called pick a side.

Twonn 24:10

Oh, so flag on the play, pick a side.

Whitney 24:13

Flag on the play, pick a side. So I'm just gonna say a few things and you're gonna tell me the side that you picked on. All right, and it might get a little, you know, because clearly you you got time today.

Twonn 24:26

I always got time.

Whitney 24:28

Alright, so let's see. Flag on the play, pick a side. The first question is gonna be entertaining DMs or instantly block.

Twonn 24:42

Um to be honest, I'm entertaining. I wanna see what the where is this going? Like where where what do you want? I'm gonna give you, all right. I'm gonna give you um, I'm gonna give you some tea. So yesterday no, the day before yesterday, I'm on TikTok. I get a random here we go. I get a random hit up. A random hit.

Whitney 25:13

Yeah, it is my time.

Twonn 25:14

I get a random I get a random hit up. And the person's like, hello. I usually don't hello. Um, what's up? I'm I'm cool, what's up? Oh, nothing, I'm just so bored. What the fuck? Alright. Oh, where are you located? I picked, I picked the most random spot that I can possibly pick. Because I knew my antennas was up. My antennas was up. Oh, where you go, where you from? I picked somewhere that ain't nobody from here. They picked the random address down the block. All of a sudden you're there. And I was just like, oh, alright. And I blacked. Ah, blacked.

unknown 25:58

You stupid motherfucker.

Twonn 25:59

You lying, and then that, and then blocked, then blocked.

Whitney 26:03

So that's you had a little fun for you.

Twonn 26:05

Yeah, I had a little fun beforehand, but before, it's like, why are you why are you like, why are you contacting me? Like, who sent you? I honestly thought it was you. I kid you not. Oh, I just got time. I kid you not. I thought it was you. And now I'm like, oh, all right, all right.

Whitney 26:23

I'm gonna see where this comes up. Let me see where this goes. Okay, well, it definitely wasn't me. Um, okay, I guess. Since when they just said, no, I I just I don't I just don't I don't entertain. It just depends, like somebody just says hi.

Twonn 26:40

It's just random hi.

Whitney 26:41

You just like and I mean I have some people too who sign the DM and they just, you know, go on the room, oh you're so beautiful, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Sometimes, depending on what the content or why I feel like they're trying to go, I just I just sometimes I don't even block, I just don't respond. Leave them on red or whatever the case.

Twonn 27:00

Some people they just be trying to sell, nah, they be trying to sell, they be trying to sell you something or trying to get some information. I honestly want to know the game. I want to know the game. There's no reason for you to hit me up when honestly you're on my page. You know, I post you not frequently, but I post you, and it's just like And it's crazy because every time you post me, I always missed it.

Whitney 27:22

Cause you say you be posted, but I don't never see it. I don't see it for real.

Twonn 27:25

But you're not a social media, like you be on like every two days. A story only lasts 24 hours, baby girl. So it's all good.

Whitney 27:33

Yeah, so I guess that's next question.

Twonn 27:36

Thank God for stories.

Whitney 27:39

Oh, I guess we already answered this in one of our questions, but it's uh we're just talking or exclusive from day one.

Twonn 27:49

Uh yeah, I think we just answered this one. Um, I think we're just talking. Just talking. Just talking. I'm with you on that one. We're just talking. Just talking. Because saying put it on. Yeah, red flag, red flag.

Whitney 28:01

That's the I mean, that should be me. I should be exclusive from day one because I'm on the red flag side, right? That's what I should pick.

Twonn 28:07

You should definitely.

Whitney 28:08

You know what? When I met you, and I decided, like, yeah, that's gonna be my man. You didn't know it, but I knew it.

Twonn 28:18

You knew it? I knew it. When when exactly did you know it?

Whitney 28:21

Don't worry about it. Just know that I knew, and here you are.

Twonn 28:23

Oh, oh my life. We go back to that delusional part. You're delusional, yeah. You're delusional until it works.

Whitney 28:31

Until it works. Well, like I said, I spoke it into existence, and here we are, just as happy as we want to be, right, babe. All right, we on camera, so I'm gonna let you. Let's see. Here we go. Liking other people's pics, or that's disrespect.

Twonn 29:01

Um liking other people's pics. Um, this is social media. This is social media. Like, I'm I'm here on social media to like pictures. Commenting, that's a different, that's a whole different monster. Like, that's uh, you know, putting eyes or putting fire emojis or the hard eyes. The hard eyes, yeah. That that's that's where the line gets bended and twisted and whatnot. But liking, like, do we have a do you have a do you do you like men's pictures? Huh? Do you like, do you when you go on social media, are there's pictures of men? Do you just go down and you like, oh, he's cute.

Whitney 29:45

Like, I like them when they're in in a couple's picture, you know, but if they're standing on the beach with their shirt off, I look, but I ain't gonna like because you probably out here looking and lurking to see who I'm liking. So no, I don't, no, I don't like men's pictures. Oh, yeah, good at you. I like women's pictures. Oh, me too. Men with women. Oh, you like women's pictures too? Oh, so you don't like no men's pictures, but you like women's picture.

Twonn 30:13

Uh so great eyes. Uh uh, I do double both. Like it's social media. Like, I don't, I don't. It's what I'm here for to be social.

Whitney 30:22

Okay. Uh the next one is phone privacy or open access anytime.

Twonn 30:28

I do open access. Me too. It's plenty of times you picked up my phone and just be like, no wonder who you've been talking to. And I just gotta sit there. But it's a it's annoying. I t I kid you not. Like my blood starts boiling.

Whitney 30:40

When's the last time I picked up your phone? I sometimes I pick up your phone and click on your messages just to see if you're gonna stop me, but I don't ever go in your messages.

Twonn 30:48

Yeah, but it's just been years. But it's it ain't been years.

Whitney 30:52

It has been since I picked up your phone and looked at something.

Twonn 30:55

It's a privacy thing, and then I noticed that when you do it, I'm like, I Who opened up that Pandora box though?

unknown 31:04

Crickets, crickets, crickets.

Whitney 31:06

Yeah, you did.

Twonn 31:07

I don't remember.

Whitney 31:07

I never touched your phone until you touched my phone.

Twonn 31:09

But that was an old relationship. I had trauma. That was that was trauma bleeding on into our relationship. And that's some stuff I had to unlearn.

Whitney 31:17

You cannot bring your past relationships into your new relationship or current relationship because we wanted to problems like him.

Twonn 31:28

There's some stuff that I had to unlearn, and I had to do it in a healthy uh situation ship.

Whitney 31:38

So what you calling us a situation?

Twonn 31:41

We were a situation.

Whitney 31:43

We were not a situation ship. You asked me to be your girlfriend.

Twonn 31:46

Yeah, after, alright. So you want to go into this story? Why I asked you to be my relationship?

Whitney 31:53

Because you blackmailed me. Because I'm telling everybody that I forced him. I didn't force you to do anything. I blackmailed you to be in a relationship with me is crazy.

Twonn 32:01

Yo, alright, I'm gonna let you get this one. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead.

Whitney 32:04

Tell the people your lies.

Twonn 32:05

You blackmailed me.

Whitney 32:06

How did I blackmail you?

Twonn 32:08

Because you told me. She was like, oh, since we're not exclusive, um, I'm just gonna weigh my options. And you know, after you done, you done, you done done everything that uh I needed to be done. Oh hell nah. You can't go nowhere. First and foremost, I didn't even live here.

Whitney 32:24

I didn't blackmail here. You didn't live here, but you were sitting here trying to be like, oh, that's my girl, that's my woman. I said, I don't recall you making me your girlfriend. That's what I said. I didn't blackmail you to make me ask you.

Twonn 32:44

Instead of showing you things that I gotta ask you, like So you want me to assume that we're in a relationship? Yes, I want you to be delusional.

Whitney 32:52

Absolutely not. Absolutely not, absolutely not. Because I need I need the transparency, I need to know where I stand in your life. Like you said, you lived all the way in New York, I lived all the way in Texas.

Twonn 33:06

Why are you just gonna be delusional?

Whitney 33:08

You know what? You messing up my game because I had enough of you. Why can't I be delusional? No, you just wanted your cake and eat it too. It's no, no, no, no. I know the same. But you know what? No. When I put cake in front of you, you don't eat this cake and that cake, you just eat the cake that's in front of you, which was me and the moment.

Twonn 33:26

I was hungry. Yeah, okay. I was very hungry.

Whitney 33:29

I cannot. Okay, so let's let's get to this one. Cause yeah, healing. Okay, one time cheat. Do you work it out or walk away?

Twonn 33:45

Um I'm a man, I'm gonna walk away. I'm not strong enough to deal with, you know how women be like, oh, I'm gonna take him back after he cheat. I'm not that strong. I'm not that strong. I'm not even gonna say an act like because then it's like, yo, you did this? You did you you did this? You did that? You're like, oh yeah, that is a part of my stomach is gonna turn.

unknown 34:08

Wow.

Twonn 34:09

Yeah. I'm not I'm not built mentally strong for that.

Whitney 34:13

And that's crazy because you men say you guys are not built strong for cheating, but you're gone and cheat and expect the woman to still be there when you're done doing your dirt.

Twonn 34:22

It is an emotional thing for men. We can cheat and still be okay. Like, I don't have any type of emotional ties to this person. But women, in order to get somebody in your thighs, you have to have some type of feeling or some type of emotion. I mean, unless you're a loosey goose, then you know it is what it is. Put the $40 on the table and go your way. But there are my my woman, if I feel like you cheated, that means you let this man inside and you're feeling him some type of way. What about you?

Whitney 34:59

Nope, we're gonna get on that topic another time. Double standards and how you um I've been I've been cheated on. I'm not gonna say multiple times, one person that I know of and that I was aware. Um, but no, I stayed.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

You stayed?

Whitney 35:18

I did stay. Okay. And it ended up, you know, working out nicely. Okay. But, you know, I just feel like, you know. Yeah. You know how they do like the uh the positives and the negatives? The positives outweigh the negatives, and I kind of looked at that aspect and you know, gave him a little pow pow and just told him not to do it again. But you know, I don't know if it was done. Maybe he and nah, it probably wasn't because he's not smart enough to you know figure some stuff out. But uh, next question flirting while in a relationship, or is that cheating?

Twonn 35:59

Flirting while you're in a relationship. Um, I think everybody flirts. Everybody flirts. It could be a ha ha ha ha, or it could be, you know, uh a conversation, or even just keeping it real with somebody, they might take it as flirting. So I don't think that's cheating. I think that's just like a reaching like you're gonna talk to the opposite sex, and they might take what you're saying or how you look or as cheating.

Whitney 36:28

Because you could be leading someone on with your words. I can see you doing that, but I guess we'll just that's neither here nor there.

Twonn 36:37

Uh I don't think so. I think I think laughing with somebody, you can take that as leading somebody on.

Whitney 36:43

Laughing?

Twonn 36:44

Yeah.

Whitney 36:44

No, but what you're saying to that person can, you know, laughing and the content behind the conversation can be very leading at times.

Twonn 36:59

Okay. It's got weird.

Whitney 37:04

Okay, all right, last one. Um, do you soft launch your partner or post them loud and proud? Oh, definitely a soft launch.

Twonn 37:14

Oh, yeah, definitely. Elbow first, a knee, you know, an ankle.

Whitney 37:20

I'm definitely with that because I think I start off with your feet, right? Your your feet?

Twonn 37:25

You definitely started off with my feet.

Whitney 37:27

With his feet. I had to make sure he wasn't defective before I go ahead and full-blown out post him, you know.

Twonn 37:33

Yeah.

Whitney 37:34

Making sure he was a keeper and not putting him back on the shelf.

Twonn 37:37

Yeah, I've done that before. Yeah.

Whitney 37:39

I'm gonna say on the self, not not the streets, you know. Because you're a little bit better than that. So I'm just gonna put you back on the shelf for somebody else to.

Twonn 37:46

Oh, on the shelf? Oh, okay. Long as you know that I belong on the shelf and not in the streets.

Whitney 37:50

Yeah.

Twonn 37:51

I'm cool with that.

Whitney 37:52

Are you?

Twonn 37:53

I'm cool with that.

Whitney 37:53

See, look at no shots fired.

Twonn 37:56

Alright, uh, you finished with the flag on the play? Yes. Alright, that was a good, clippable, um, clippable moment. Uh definitely got weird, but alright. I got I'm gonna shoot at you after this. I got some bullets for you.

Whitney 38:11

Okay, but I still got a few more questions. Okay, so um, let's see, just getting back to the you know, old school, uh, new school dating. Um, when it comes to like roles, do you think roles should still exist? Like men leading and women being like more of the nurturing.

Twonn 38:33

Um I do believe that works for a household, but uh that was an old school, you know, old school way of thinking. Now it's like the woman wants to be included, or the woman does more now. They do way more now. So it's like um sometimes it's not 50-50 all the time, sometimes it's 25-75, sometimes it's 80-20, you know. But as I think the women have got more, how would I say this? Uh masculine with their with their energy now.

Whitney 39:13

It's like more of an independence.

Twonn 39:15

Yeah, independent, masculine, yeah. Well, so they have uh definitely uh came a long way with that. So now it's like the generals are kind of like I ain't gonna say they switched, but the women are taking more more responsibility now than it was back in the day before they used to cook dinner. Now they're going to work and they gotta cook dinner, and they they're not having the, you know, the extra curricular activity that the men are going outside and doing because they gotta do majority of the work.

unknown 39:48

Yes.

Whitney 39:49

I do see that. I do see a lot of that. I do see like, you know, sometimes, like you said, it's not always 50-50, but um nowadays it's more of like, you know, some of these men don't want to do everything, they want somebody to do the half. Or um so does it still exist? Maybe in you know, those older relationships. Um, I would like to bring it back.

Twonn 40:18

You would like to bring it back?

Whitney 40:19

Yeah, because at first I want to be very independent and do my own thing and not need a man for anything, but I don't want to work anymore. I don't want to work, I want to stay at home.

Twonn 40:28

So you would I don't want to work. You would bring back the uh the old school. I would bring it back.

Whitney 40:34

Let I let you lead, be the provider, I'll clean your house, cook your bread. I don't want to go to work no more. I'm tired of working. It's hard out here. And I don't want to do it.

Twonn 40:47

I'm gonna take that into consideration.

Whitney 40:49

But then also back in the day, too, by allowing men to lead, like, you didn't really have a say-so in certain things. It's like, oh, I pay the bills, you do what I say, or you do how I say it, like, type thing. So I say bring it back to a certain extent. Like, yeah, you know, allowing you to lead and me just fall in line. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, nah, I'm okay. No, thank you. Uh, I'll be at work first thing tomorrow morning, doing my part because this man.

Twonn 41:22

You would love it. You would love it.

Whitney 41:23

He's too much. He too much, he wants too much.

Twonn 41:27

You would love it here.

Whitney 41:28

I do love it here, but sometimes I need my time away.

Twonn 41:33

All right, uh so yeah.

Whitney 41:36

Okay, so with that being said, do people I would say so, do people um date for love or more for convenience?

Twonn 41:49

Um I'm gonna take it old school with this one. Um before it used to be for love, like there was there was no real reason for a man to be with you other than he loved you. Like you couldn't, you can do anything for him. And I used to I used to hear about this, like, oh, I'm only with you because I love you, and stuff like that. You hear stuff like that, like it's just like a lion. But now it's like now it seems more convenient now compared to you know, old school ways of just being with somebody because you just genuinely love them or you really, really like them. Now it's like, all right, I gotta be with this chick because I need a place to live. I gotta be with this shit because I need her car.

Whitney 42:36

Yeah, so I definitely think nowadays it's more of like, what can you do for me? What can you bring to the table type aspect? Not necessarily like, oh, you know, I love this man's dirty draws, so I'm just gonna be with him for it. No, it's always like, okay, so yeah, I love you, but you could love somebody, but if they're not a provider, you feel like they don't, you know, benefit your lifestyle or contribute to where you're trying to go, that's where you see people like jump ship, regardless of you know how much they love that person. It's kind of like, yeah, but I'm trying to get to the next, next thing. I'm not trying to struggle, you know, my whole time, you know, because in past relationships, like, you know, with my mom growing up or whatever the case might be, it was more of like, you know, I really love this person. They started from the bottom and they built, built, built. But that's not that's not nowadays. It's kind of like okay, I like him and we vibe, but he ain't got no car. He lives at home with his mom. Like, where are we supposed to go? He thinks he's gonna come to my house type thing, and people like look at that stuff rather than yeah, and that's you know, it sucks, but that's the reality.

Twonn 43:53

So if you had to choose between old school love or new school love, who you which one would you?

Whitney 44:07

I can't say. I feel like I would take a little bit from here and I'll take a little bit from there and kind of like put it together. So there's some stuff that old school does or did that I prefer to go in that direction, but new school I prefer to go this direction just because of the generation we live or you know the world we live in now and what people are like you know accustomed to. Like so I can't really say I'm going old school, I'm going new school, because sometimes new school ain't always the way.

Twonn 44:38

I just like oh I wish people just yeah, I think uh I noticed that uh old school, they had a lot of chivalry. Like they did things for women, and now it's like now it's like you can't do nothing for a woman because she you think she's trying to get over on you, or something like that. So um I honestly will go back to the old school way. I honestly will go back to the old school way. I like the way they did, I like the way they loved, and I like the way um they I ain't gonna say they communicated because it was a lot of yelling, a lot of Ike and Tina situations going on, but I guess they kept it private.

Whitney 45:17

Yeah, a lot, yeah. But how does that work out for the women? In private, you're you're being mistreated privately, but because this person provides for you is supposed to be okay, or they can go out and do what they wanted. Like a lot of these old school movies that we watch, and you see like the man's cheating, but the woman just has to deal with it because where is she gonna go? She relies solely on that.

Twonn 45:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I still would pick the old school way. Um that's just my take on it. I don't like the old school. Yeah, I'm gonna pick the old school way. I'm an old school lover.

Whitney 46:01

Who are you?

Twonn 46:02

Yes, I am.

Whitney 46:04

Okay.

Twonn 46:05

Chivalry is not dead over here. I open doors.

Whitney 46:08

Chivalry is not dead over here. Open doors. I do things. I'm not gonna school lover.

Twonn 46:13

Yeah, I'm an old school lover.

Whitney 46:15

I would say you're a very good partner. With a new school feel. But sometimes you had to get well. All right. Didn't you have something you wanted? Some questions you wanted? Um then you got something you want to add?

Twonn 46:32

Nah. Nah, we could wrap this one up. Um, old school versus new school love. This is a really good um episode.

Whitney 46:41

Why thank you?

Twonn 46:42

Whitney with the wise words, Tuan with the red flags.

unknown 46:46

Of course.

Whitney 46:48

We're starting to see his true red flags are starting to come out. I think we might need to swap seats while he got the green behind him and I got the red behind him.

Twonn 46:58

Yeah, you're it's a glow. It's a glow, girl.

Whitney 47:01

You're glowing. Oh, am I? You're glowing. I think I can glow in the green too. Which I think.

Twonn 47:08

Anyway, uh, this is Flag Us. Uh, please like, comment, subscribe. Uh like all of our stuff. We are on social, all social media.

Whitney 47:17

Oh, do we have a TikTok? We don't have a TikTok. We don't have a TikTok, no. Um, we should create a TikTok.

Twonn 47:24

Okay. But please like, comment, subscribe. Um, somebody asked me to do like a live and uh like a live call-in, like a flag calling.

Whitney 47:36

Oh, that would be fun.

Twonn 47:37

Yeah, that's what I thought so too. And I was like, uh, I'll think about it. He's like, Yeah, you should call me. I'll say, no.

Whitney 47:44

I think we should. I think we should do that because it'll kind of like throw us off too, because we don't know what people are gonna ask. And you guys are definitely gonna put us on the spot with that.

Twonn 47:52

And yeah, they've been putting us on the spot. Some of the answers that we get in some of the comments, I'll be like, oh yeah. That was good. Like, we got one off.

Whitney 47:59

He got one off.

Twonn 48:00

He got one off.

Whitney 48:01

Yeah, so yeah, if you guys have any um, you know, questions you guys want us to answer, or any questions you guys want to ask us, please put it in our comments.

Twonn 48:12

Yeah, put it in the comments.

Whitney 48:13

Put it in the comments, put it in the comments.

Twonn 48:15

We will pull it up and answer. We might even put you in the pod. Yep your picture and all that, all that, all that.

Whitney 48:21

Yes, yes, yes.

Twonn 48:22

All right, anyway, uh, I'm Tuan. I'm with and this is Flying Gus. The D music is playing, you hear it? You don't hear it?

Whitney 48:40

I don't.