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Welcome to the deep dive. I'm your host, ready to get into it.

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And I am your resident financial and pop culture analyst. Glad to be here.

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Glad to have you. Today we are wading into a really fascinating high-stakes financial battleground. It sits right at the intersection of pop culture, global logistics, and you know, alternative asset classes.

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Aaron Powell It really does. We are talking about the sprawling economies of global anime franchises and their trading card games.

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Right. Specifically, we're taking the historic Titan of the entire industry Pokemon and analyzing its head-to-head battle with the surging record-breaking challenger One Piece.

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Aaron Powell It's just a phenomenal case study in modern entertainment economics. We are looking at properties that have entirely transcended their original mediums. Oh, absolutely. I mean, they aren't just cartoons or comic books anymore, they are foundational pillars of global culture. And increasingly, they're massive financial ecosystems attracting half billion dollar corporate investments.

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Aaron Powell And to figure out how we got here, we've pulled together an incredible stack of sources for you today. We are looking at corporate financial statements straight from Bandai Namco.

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We also have real-time market watch reports from Athlon Sports.

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Yep. Plus a really thorough academic business analysis focusing on the Pokemon company. And we're even taking the pulse of passionate collector and investor communities over on Reddit.

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There is a lot to cover.

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There is. So our mission for you today is to uncover the financial and cultural mechanics of these mega franchises. We want to understand how ink on paper and cardboard translates into billion-dollar global economies. Okay, let's unpack this.

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I think it has to start with understanding the sheer unprecedented scale of what One Piece has accomplished recently.

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Right, because for a long time it dominated the Japanese market, but was perceived as, you know, slightly more niche in the wax.

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Exactly. But that narrative has completely shifted. If you look at the early 2026 data, the One Piece franchise's net worth has surged to an estimated $30.2 billion.

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I just want you to let that number sink in for a second. $30.2 billion. To put that in perspective for you, that surpasses absolute cultural behemoths that have been ingrained in the Western consciousness for nearly a century.

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It's staggering.

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It is now worth more than Barbie, which sits around $26.2 billion. It's worth more than Batman at $28 billion. It has even passed Spider-Man, which is currently valued at $29 billion.

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It's wild.

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Right. A story about a stretchy pirate on a boat is out-earning Bruce Wayne and Peter Parker.

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And a huge driver of that value remains the original source material, the manga. Global physical sales of the One Piece manga have likely surpassed 550 million copies.

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Which is just an ocean of books.

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It is. They're actively closing in on the all-time comic sales record held by Superman. And to frame that achievement, Superman has been in print since 1938. Wow. One Piece started in 1997. They are catching up to an 80-year legacy in a fraction of the time.

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That raises a really interesting point about timing, though. One Piece has been running for over 25 years, but the last two years feel like it hit warp speed globally. From our sources, a massive part of that explosion seems tied directly to streaming.

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Yes, we can confidently attribute a lot of this recent surge to the Netflix effect. The live action Netflix adaptation of One Piece acted as a massive global catalyst.

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Which is rare because historically, live-action anime adaptations have a notoriously spotty track record with Western mainstream audiences.

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Oh, absolutely. They often alienate the core fan base while totally failing to capture new viewers. But Netflix managed to thread the needle here. They created a bridge between the hardcore fans and the mainstream consumer.

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And the data backs that up.

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It does. The tangible data from our sources illustrates this perfectly. In France, which is already a massive market for manga, total sales of the physical One Piece books saw an incredible 30% bump, directly coinciding with the hype surrounding the Netflix release.

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It essentially gave mainstream Western consumers permission to jump into a massive, intimidating 25-year-old story. And the creator of the series, Akiro Oda, is really reaping the benefits of that global onboarding.

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He certainly is.

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Our sources note he has an estimated net worth between $250 million. He benefits from a highly unusual 10% royalty structure on the intellectual property.

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Which is incredibly rare in the Japanese publishing industry, where flat fees for creators are much more the standard.

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Exactly. He secured generational wealth by maintaining a tighter grip on his IP than most of his peers. But while the manga and the streaming show act as the engine bringing people into the ecosystem, the absolute rocket fuel for this franchise's valuation right now is the trading card game.

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The TCG market is a whole different beast.

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Here's where it gets really interesting. Because the One Piece trading card game is experiencing an absolute gold rush. We are looking at the December 2025 market explosion, and the numbers I'm reading from the Athlon Sports Reports are staggering.

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The price jumps are aggressive.

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Take the OP13 set called Carrying On His Will. In just one month, the secondary market price of a single booster box surged from $157 to over $280.

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And that upward pressure only intensifies when you look at bulk sealed product. If an investor wanted a sealed case of OP13, which contains multiple booster boxes, they were looking at dropping around $4,000.

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That's just for the unopened cardboard. The secondary market for individual rare cards is a whole different stratosphere. The Chase cards right now are the manga alternate arts.

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The artwork on those is incredible.

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It is. I'm looking at the data for a specific Monkey D Luffy card, set number OP13-118, and it recently sold at auction for $8,566 for one piece of cardboard.

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It sounds absurd on its face, but it really requires the context of the wider industry, specifically Pokemon. Based on the academic analysis and historical data we looked at, Pokemon is the highest grossing media franchise to ever exist.

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Valued at over $92 billion.

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Right. And since 1996, they have printed over 75 billion cards.

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That history is impressive, but doesn't a 30-year backlog of 75 billion cards make it incredibly daunting for a new collector or investor to enter the Pokemon market today?

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That is precisely the friction point. During the pandemic era boom, we saw Pokemon cards reach absolute frenzy levels. Influencers like Logan Paul were buying vintage boxes for millions of dollars, hyping up the community, and it caused extreme supply shortages.

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I remember that.

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Exactly. And massive retailers like Target and Walmart had to temporarily pull the products off their physical shelves because adult collectors were getting into physical altercations in the aisles.

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Just crazy times.

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Prices spiked to irrational highs. What we are seeing right now with One Piece is a very similar speculative gold rush, but with a ground floor appeal. Investors and collectors who feel they missed the boat on vintage Pokemon are chasing that same high with One Piece.

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Let's talk about those collectors. Because looking through the Reddit communities, specifically places like R slash Pokeinvesting and R slash One Piece TCG Finance, you see a very distinct shift in sentiment. People are actively moving their capital from Pokemon to One Piece.

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You can see it happening in real time on the message boards.

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But if the gameplay is cited as a major draw, why are investors hoarding sealed boxes in their closets instead of actually playing with the cards? Are they just betting on the player base growing over time?

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What's fascinating here is the structural difference in how Bandai Namco packages One Piece compared to how the Pokemon Company packages its products. The hoarding of sealed boxes comes down to pure mathematics.

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Oh so?

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In One Piece, if you buy a sealed case of booster boxes for $4,000, you are mathematically guaranteed a specific ratio of high-tier hits or rare cards.

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So it's not just a blind lottery.

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Not at all. If an investor knows a $4,000 case mathematically guarantees at least three cards that can be sold for $1,500 each, the risk profile completely changes.

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It becomes an arbitrage opportunity.

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Exactly. You open the case, grade the guaranteed hits, sell them to cover your initial cost, and everything else you pull is pure profit. Pokemon, conversely, is almost entirely random in its standard sets.

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Right. You could open a thousand packs and hit absolutely nothing.

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Or open one pack and pull the rarest card in the set.

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Which explains why the Reddit investors are frustrated with Pokemon right now. They prefer the predictable math of bandby's distribution. But let's be fair to Pikachu here.

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They are still the undisputed king.

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And even if their physical card sales are cooling slightly from the pandemic highs, they just launched the Digital Pokemon TCG Pocket app, which brought in a record-breaking $1.25 billion in its first year alone.

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They have brilliantly hedged their physical decline with digital dominance, and that is the core debate happening in the investment community.

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The old guard versus the new challenger.

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Right. One Piece has the current momentum, the explosive growth, and the arbitrage-friendly packaging. But Pokemon has a 30-year track record. It is the blue chip stock of the collectible world.

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It's proven.

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It offers a level of brand stability and long-term value that a game as young as One Piece simply cannot guarantee yet. One Piece is the hot tech startup. Pokemon is Apple.

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Which brings us perfectly to the corporate chess board, because the big multinational players know exactly how much money is on the table here. In July 2025, a massive corporate development flew under the radar for a lot of people.

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The really significant move.

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Sony acquired a 2.5% stake in Bandai Namco for approximately $464 million. Our sources also note that Nintendo quietly holds a 1.77% stake in Bandai Namco. It seems like everyone's trying to buy a seat at the table.

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If we connect this to the bigger picture, the motive behind Sony's half billion dollar investment becomes incredibly clear. This is a strategic partnership aimed at transmedia dominance.

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Transmedia dominance, meaning controlling the IP across every format.

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Yes. Sony owns Crunchyroll, the largest anime streaming platform in the world. By partnering with Bandai Namco, who controls massive toys, games, and merchandise pipelines, Sony is building an integrated global flywheel.

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How does that flywheel actually function in practice, though?

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Think about the data. Sony can use Crunchyroll viewership metrics to see exactly which one piece characters or specific story arcs are trending globally in real time.

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Oh wow.

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They feed that data directly to Bandynamco, who then immediately prints high-value chase cards featuring those specific characters in the next trading card set.

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That is wild.

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They are locking down the pipeline from the moment an episode streams on your television to the moment you buy the physical cardboard at your local game store.

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That is an incredibly aggressive vertical strategy. But how does that compare to how Pokemon operates? With their massive lead, you would think they have an even more streamlined machine.

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It's actually the opposite, largely due to the unique ownership structure of Pokemon. The Pokemon Company isn't a traditional corporation owned by one single entity.

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Who owns it then?

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It's a tripartite joint venture, divided equally between Nintendo, who publishes the video games, Game Freak, the developers who code the core games, and Creatures, the company that manages the trading card game and toys.

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So the three-headed dragon trying to make singular corporate decisions?

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Precisely. And this complex structure has historically been Pokemon's greatest shield. It prevents the brand from being aggressively over milked or run into the ground by any one single corporate owner looking for a quick quarterly profit. That makes sense. But the downside is that it creates immense bureaucratic drag. Getting three separate massive entities to agree on a new aggressive transmedia strategy takes years.

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Like trying to turn a cruise ship.

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Exactly. It's a big reason why it took decades for Pokemon to release a live-action movie, or why their embrace of mobile gaming was initially so slow. Compared to the streamlined, data-driven push we are seeing from Sony and Bandai right now, Pokemon moves like a very wealthy but very slow behemoth.

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So what does this all mean? If you're listening to this and you are trying to figure out the actual takeaways, whether you're an investor eyeing that $4,000 booster case, or a business professional trying to understand where entertainment economics are heading, what are the immediate risks? Because this can't all be endless upward growth.

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The risks are significant, starting with extreme market volatility. Because the One Piece TCG is relatively young, our sources show secondary market prices swinging wildly. We're talking 20% to 50% fluctuations week over week on single cards.

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Which is terrifying if you just treated an $8,500 Luffy card as a serious alternative asset.

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High-end counterfeits and fakes are currently plaguing the One Piece card market, creating hesitation among serious buyers.

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And what about the publisher itself?

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That might be the biggest risk cited by the Reddit communities. Bandai Namco's own history. They do not have the 30-year pristine track record of the Pokemon company.

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They've had some missteps.

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Investors are quick to point out that Bandai has launched and subsequently abandoned several trading card games in the past. This includes multiple iterations of Dragon Ball Supercard games and various Digimon reboots.

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So there's a trust issue.

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There is a lingering fear that if the market cools, Bandai might just pivot to the next hot anime IP and leave One Piece investors holding the bag.

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You mentioned the crazy price swings. Part of that volatility isn't even about the game itself or Bandai's history. It's about whether they can actually print and ship the cards fast enough. And our academic source points out a massive sobering vulnerability there regarding global supply chains.

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It is a critical point that grounds this entire discussion. We tend to think of these franchises as existing in digital fantasy worlds or isolated entertainment bubbles, but they rely on highly complex, fragile physical supply chains.

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Right, because at the end of the day, it's still ink and foil on paper.

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Exactly. The academic analysis notes that ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and geopolitical tensions in the Middle East have caused severe disruptions to this industry. We're just reporting what the sources highlight here, but the logistical impact is undeniable.

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How does a geopolitical conflict directly impact the price of a pirate trading card on Reddit?

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It comes down to raw materials and logistics. Trading cards, especially the high-end chase cards, require specialized holographic foil and specific printing presses. A significant portion of the raw materials and specialized manufacturing for that foil is tied up in Eastern European supply chains.

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Okay, so when those are disrupted, production slows down.

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Yes. Then, if a major shipping lane in the Middle East faces delays, Bandai's global shipping costs quadruple. They are forced to print fewer cards and ship them slower.

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Which creates immediate artificial scarcity at your local game store.

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And that instantly spikes the secondary market price of that monkey D Luffy card online. It doesn't matter how popular your manga is. If the foil is stuck in Europe and the boats are delayed, the entire billion-dollar ecosystem feels the shockwave.

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It really snaps you back to reality. The macroeconomics dictate the microtransactions. So bringing this all together from our stack of sources today, we are witnessing a truly historic moment in pop culture and finance.

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A huge shift.

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You have a 25-year-old pirate manga that is masterfully leveraging a hit Netflix adaptation, a flawlessly executed and arbitrage-friendly trading card game, and a half billion dollar transmedia partnership with Sony to legitimately challenge Pokemon's 30-year global dominance.

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And this is exactly why you should care about this space, regardless of whether you personally collect cards, watch anime, or have never even heard of Monkey D. Luffy.

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It's bigger than the game.

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It is. If you are a business professional, an investor, or just a keen observer of market trends, this is a masterclass in modern economics. It shows us exactly how intellectual property is monetized across multiple mediums, utilizing streaming data to drive physical cardboard sales to create fiercely loyal billion-dollar global communities.

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It's an incredible evolution of entertainment. Now, before we wrap up this deep dive, we want to leave you with a final provocative thought to mull over on your own.

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A look into the future.

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We've spent a lot of time today talking about the immense value of physical printed cardboard and the supply chains required to move it around the globe. But as technology marches forward, we are inevitably reaching a point where augmented reality glasses will become a seamless part of daily life.

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It's only a matter of time.

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When those AR glasses can perfectly simulate the weight, the tactile shine, and the intricate holographic glimmer of a rare trading card sitting right there on your kitchen table, what happens?

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Will the multi billion dollar physical cardboard market completely crash because the digital version is practically indistinguishable?

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Or will the tangible physical scarcity of paper become even more incredibly valuable precisely because we live in an entirely digital world? Something to think about. Thanks for diving deep with us today.