The Twisted Lies of Daniel Wozniak

In Episode 7 of SoCal Slaughters, we dive into the disturbing and manipulative case of Daniel Wozniak - an aspiring actor whose greed, lies, and desperation led to one of Southern California’s most shocking murders.

Hosts break down the murders of Sam Herr and Julie Kibuishi, the chilling interrogation details, and the investigation that unraveled Wozniak’s web of deception. From stolen money and fake alibis to the horrifying aftermath, this case shocked Orange County and left lasting questions behind.

The full interrogation video referenced in this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxh1ft_WdV0

⚠️ Trigger Warning: Graphic content, murder, assault, and violence.

Drink Feature ~ Curtain Call
• 1oz Elderflower liqueur
• 0.5oz fresh lemon juice
• 0.5oz gin
• 2–3oz Prosecco
• Dash of orange bitters
• Garnish with a lemon twist

Directions: Add elderflower liqueur, lemon juice, gin, and bitters to a shaker with ice. Shake and strain into a chilled coupe. Slowly top with Prosecco and garnish with a lemon twist.

Bri-lixer Version
• 1oz elderflower syrup
• 0.5oz fresh lemon juice
• 0.5oz alcohol-free gin (or omit)
• 2–3oz sparkling water
• Dash of orange bitters
• Garnish with a lemon twist

Sources referenced include People Magazine Investigates, Oxygen, CBS News, ABC News, OC Register, and additional public case records.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Well, are you guys ready to start the show? Yeah, I think so. Yes. Okay. I'm excited to try your drink. Oh, me too. So just to start things off, hi, I'm Brie.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

I'm Joey. I'm Rachel.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

And this is SoCal Slaughters.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

Welcome to the Podcasket.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Welcome to the Podcasket. Um, so today's drink is going to be the curtain call. Our story today does involve a little bit of theater. I wish that it, you know, got to highlight better. Actors and actresses. Shout out Alchemy Theater, Tucker, and Lorely Boys. Okay. Check them out. Anyways, my stepsister and my oh, okay. Anyways, so the curtain call. Yes. It is a lovely genie Prosecco cocktail. It was very popular in theaters at one point. Oh. It started during like the golden age of theater, which was the 60s for sure. That was the thing in the place to be, you know. So I didn't know that. I didn't either until until I was finding a cocktail thing. So it's very exciting. And yeah. Cheers.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

Yeah. That's really good. I like that. Yeah. It's just so light. Yeah. It is. It's very refreshing. And then it has that little sparkle. Yeah. Yeah. Mine is soda water, sound. Yeah. I mean, mine is delish. Yeah. It's just perfectly like light and easy to drink. Yeah. Really good. During intermission. Yeah. Yeah. You could get definitely a little bit seen in it, that's for sure. Maybe two.

unknown 2:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

I'll take, I'll take two and then just easily. Throw them back. Well, um, do you guys have anything else other than our little commentary that we were already? I know.

SPEAKER_02 2:20

We started early on that one.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Um, I know we could talk about you're going to the sphere.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Yeah, I'm going to see no doubt at the sphere, my favorite band of all time. Um, really excited about it.

unknown 2:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Shout out Orange County Bands. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Orange County Bands like grew up on them. Uh, super excited, have gone to every um reunion that they've done that um mine is Coachella, just I couldn't afford Coachella. I don't know who affords Coachella in real life.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Maybe um someday we will have those tickets sent to us.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

Well, I mean, if they're doing Coachella again, yeah. But but yeah, I mean yeah. So um as soon as I heard they were gonna uh be at the sphere, oh yeah, right away. I bought them on pre-sale the day, the minute the second that they did. They went out. So um I'm really excited because that was a while back and now finally it's approached and it's here.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

It all came quick.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

It did. It it did actually, I felt like it was gonna be forever, and it actually came a lot quicker than I thought. So I'm I'm gonna I'll be there uh next week. So that sounds like that's right. I'm really excited.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

I remember in high school when no doubt was still, they were still, they hadn't peaked yet in any way, shape or form. They were still coming out and they were still doing surprise shows. Yeah. How many people ditched school and Brea to go to the private show that they were doing at uh Cal State Fuller's yeah? Yeah. Uh amazing.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

They did one um uh like a K like K-Rock put on, like they K- Rock used to put on like uh little like pop-up concerts. And they did one and uh my friends and I ditched school and we went to it. And we actually got to go backstage um at that one because it was like no only people that like heard about it on the radio that morning like were able to go to it. So it wasn't like a time, I mean, there were still a lot of people there, but it wasn't like a ton of people. No, it was the people that could get to it. Yeah, and get in. And so like we were able to go backstage like during that one, and they had these like orange um nerf, like nerfs balls. Yeah, and like, but they were because their thing was oranges, right? It's Orange County. And um, and so we got an orange like nerf ball, and like um we got them signed, like we got the uh nerf balls signed, and I have no idea what happened to it.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Oh, I remember those pop-up shows. That was my 18th birthday. We got because they would they would say, hey, we're gonna give tickets to the first however many people that show up at this location. Yeah. And my 18th birthday, there was one, there was a location in Brea. They were giving away Rage Against the Machine, live at the Roxy tickets. Oh wow. I had to lick peanut butter off of some dude's shaved head. It was the middle of July, mind you.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

I don't think I want to see anyone that much.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

Horrible. Um, it was one of the last shows that Rage ever put on. Yeah. One of my very first concerts at the Roxy, they were right there. Yeah. Like that's it was so fucking epic.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Yeah. But oh gosh.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

See, K Rock used to be great.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

It used to be so, like, there's just so there were so many things. There were so much, so many things. And then when there were like underage clubs, I remember going to an underage club, even though I wasn't 16 still. Yeah. I was still not there legally, but like they MX Pix played, and we were like, and same. It was like, here I am, and MXPix was playing right there, and it was just like so much fun. Sorry, but being like a pre-teen in the 90s at that time was the best.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

Like the best ever. I don't, I honestly I don't know how these kids nowadays do anything fun. There's no malls, which I was the biggest mall rat of all time. Raya, hello. Biggest mall rat of all time. We had underage clubs or all ages clubs. We had places that stayed open all the time. We had arcades that stayed open late. We had uh shut ins at the local uh roller skating rink, which why were you allowing preteens and teenagers to stay overnight? Ever. I slept on a dirty floor and I loved it. Like, and imagine if we had cell phones, that entire thing would have been ruined. Totally. Yeah. It would have gotten shut down. There'd be so many issues, but honestly, it was so I always did the bowling alley Friday nights in high school. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

It was like neon bowling and it was like a party. What was that called? Black cosmic. I am not a fan at all, but I am a serious bowler. Oh, we loved it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

I I will have 15 years of friendship, ladies and gentlemen. Wait, Breezer, wait, Breeza a pro bowler. We? Were you? We've been bowling.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Were you carrying Goozle? I think we've gone to one bowling event, but I couldn't go to another. And it was probably because of a migraine. But you know, that's life. But um, do you want me to go get my bowling ball and my bowling shoes? I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 7:18

I just this is not something you have bowling shoes? Yes, I have bowling shoes and a bowling ball. We need to go bowling.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

We've only known about Jamie. Yeah. Okay. Because Jamie was a junior uh junior probably. Jamie, she came to the Jamie.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

Who else was with us? Is that when we went to the one where we had the private lady? Shut up. We're talking about ballet? Jamie Ballet? Yeah. Uh-huh. It was when they had this, we they had the little, the little school guy and the little remember there's a yeah, it was the private lady and the private lady. In like Costa Mesa or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

We went to that. We weren't there? No. You weren't there. You weren't there. I don't know. And then the only other time we went bowling. I've never been bowling with this girl, and all of a sudden she's a very serious bowler. I don't even know what to do right now.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

We need a new bowling. Are you kidding me? Uh especially like I keep on trying to ask the uh like You're not asking us.

SPEAKER_03 8:06

Look at the professionals. Listen, listen.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

I don't have all the time in the world, but even I was asking uh because Graham wants to go bowling too. Grab for more work, shout out. Um and the only time I can really go is Saturday night. Yeah. You gotta get up early. You work now. So what I'm like, honestly, I'm just gonna take myself on a bowling date.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

Yeah. But we'll we'll figure something out. That's new on our I had now I have to experience this. Yeah. Professional bowling.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

I feel like I've told you this because um I talked a lot of crap to my younger sister because I am a beater at everything.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

I mean, that's just being an older sister.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Yeah, but she kept telling me. I mean, dude, so she was very serious. Her and her boyfriend bowled all the time. I think that they were in a league. It was like, I loved going with them. Yeah. But she talked so much shit. And man, I won so many games in a row, and I was like, what happened?

SPEAKER_00 9:04

What's high score mean?

SPEAKER_01 9:06

What's high score mean, you guys? What's this?

SPEAKER_03 9:08

300? That's it.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

I'm really bad.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

Oh, yeah, I'm not great. Oh, I love it. I might hit like a strike in the beginning, and then it's just all of yours.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

My my post. It's like the one thing that I'm not good at in life. And I am really competitive, so I'm in a yeah, bad mood.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

I can be, I've gotten better, but Zoe stopped going, wanted to stop going bowling with me because she was like, if she wasn't doing well, I was like, we have to leave. This is the one thing that she was like so upset with for the rest of the day. I was like, we're not going. I'm not doing this again.

SPEAKER_03 9:42

Um, I've gotten better though, but I used to also just be a really, really sore loser. Um you can ask my sister, she'll tell you.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

I'm not a sore loser. I'm just a terrible, gloaty winner. Uh oh yeah, I was an awful winner too. Like you just couldn't play with me because Yeah, I I will always gloat. I'm gonna better than I will cheer you on if you win.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

I'm fine with that. Sportsmanship is real, but when I win, I'm all fucking about it.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

Yeah, like I mean, I'm I'm still like, yay, good job. Like, that was so good. Like, and I'll take like videos of you, like while you're like bowling and like stuff. But I'm like every time I get up there and I'm bad, then I'm just like I'm going, I'm storming back. And then I go again. You are like, oh, it's not even over. I have to do it, I have to go again. Like, it's the worst. I'm like, oh, you won, you must have like I'm just gonna sit the rest of this. It's gonna say the same anyway. It's a score. I'll just sit down.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

I'm a big fan. Yeah. So yeah, we'll go. Yeah, we'll go. But I only like the old school bowling alleys. Not the ones that are already. You know what that means? I don't know what that means either. So they have the new um, what is it? Is it um is it strike? Like luck strike? Strike, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

I don't think I've ever been to one of those.

unknown 10:57

I'm not a fan.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

So you don't want like any kind of like flashy at all. Like you want to be able to tell that the big Lebowski smoking, yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

I want to be able to tell that somebody used to smoke in that fucking um and in that bowling alley. I want to see an old man bar that's also attached to it. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 11:17

I need to. Well then maybe when we're in Vegas, they have one of those.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Oh, they for sure.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

They for sure have because it sounds like in like the Tropicana before it comes on hotels.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

I think they're I'm so sorry. Can you repeat that? I said I think that they have bowling alleys inside of some of those. Oh, they for sure do. What? Yeah, yeah. Wow. I do remember from the real world Las Vegas that at least the Palms does.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

That was a long time ago. Yeah. Do you think the Palms has not been touched since then? Like in Reed?

SPEAKER_03 11:44

On the OC, um, Seth Cohen's uh hotel room had uh a bowling alley in it, too.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Well, so it's probably still on the OC. I never watched the OCD. Neither of us. You have to watch it. The movie.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

I watched the movie died. For sure. Yeah. But I'm all set on that.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

But also the movie did not accurately depict any part of Orange County that I have ever spent time in.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Yeah, I would say probably like this. But it's still a good movie. It's a hilarious movie. I mean Jock Black. Yeah. Anything with Jack Black, I will watch. Okay. All right. Whatever. The dude abides. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Let's go. Yeah. Let's go. Jesus. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

And I'm so mad that I'm gonna got too excited and not gonna drink.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

We're going to switch gears quite a bit, but this does take place in Orange County, so that's also the neck of the woods. So um that led right into it. We are gonna go back to 2010.

unknown 12:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Uh I lived in my very first apartment by myself, and I love the actual apartment, but the apartment complex was one of those like real nice complexes where they have multiple pools and it's all gated and, you know, workout center. I've I had never lived in a place like that before. But it was a lot of layers. There were so many floors to every single building. And my parking was underground. And even though my space was like really close, it's still there was something about those apartments that creeped me out. Yeah. And it was right across the street from Orange Coast College. So there was always like a lot of young people that lived there. And I I mean, if I tried to go to the pool or something, it was packed and I'm not that person. I'm like, shut up. I want to just relax kind of a person. So that did not interest me at all. But so that year I was pregnant with Zoe and we had to move to a two-bedroom. And I'm telling you, I was so relieved when we moved out of those apartments because they just creeped me out so much. So we move out in May, in the middle of May, as soon as we could. And a week later, there's a news report on it's like breaking news. The body of um a young girl, Julie Kibuishi, was found. She was found dead and assaulted in her boyfriend, Sam Hers apartment. Guess where Sam lived? In there, in there. In that one. Two floors below me. Oh, yeah. Two floors below me. And I was like, I knew this place had some weird energy. So I'm a just small world. Super. This was two weeks after you moved out? Yes. That's like the week that I moved out, like within the week. Yeah. So that it was a lot. And I mean, honestly, I I knew it. I knew it in my heart. Yeah. But like trust trust your instincts.

SPEAKER_02 14:46

Yeah, that's serious. I mean, subterranean parking is always scary, but if you get that vibe and that feeling, like when you're living in your apartment anywhere you go out, it's like oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

Even taking the elevator up, I was like, oh my God, I just please I don't want to get hurt. Yeah, you know. Oh my gosh. I mean, I came home alone a lot because I was getting off of work from the bar. So it was it was not ideal. But regardless, yeah. Over the next few days, this story began to just unfold. So the case would take police detectives on like the craziest, twisty, winding road. And the end of it would be nothing that anybody would ever have guessed that would have taken place. It's super, it's super gnarly. But regardless, let's start out by introducing Julie Kibuishi and Sam Hurst. Okay. So Sam Hurst, 26-year-old, 26 years old, by all accounts, the nicest guy. He was known as being loyal, like a big teddy bear, and he was very athletic, always wanting to like help you move or do anything that had to do with like lifting anything. And everything was just in his life was centered around exercise. Um, after his tour, he traveled a tour of Afghanistan because he was an ex-veteran. Okay, he toured the world with his army buddy, and he would just say that Sam was a great guy, but cheap. Great guy, but super cheap. And I find that hilarious because that seems to be the man in my life, too. So um, although everybody cites Sam as being this great guy, Sam did have some trouble in his past. He had been arrested along with 20 other individuals for the stabbing death of a 19-year-old.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

20 other people? What? So Sam at the time was 18 years old and he started to hang out with a gang. Okay. So that is how that transpired. Okay. Sam did not actually take part in the stabbing, but he was still arrested along with all of those other. Yes. He was 18 years old, so he was going to be tried for this. Yeah. Sam ended up getting acquitted of all those charges, but that situation ended up changing his life. He immediately dropped those friends, and then he ended up joining the army.

SPEAKER_04 17:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

So Sam is what is known as a sky soldier in the 173rd Airborne Brigade. Now that is just as cool as it sounds. You have to go through your special training and you are put in a lot more dangerous situations. So because of the heightened danger of that position, Sam received what's known as danger pay, which means that he would end up saving around $62,000 from this time that he served. And it's all tax-free. So when he returned home after he traveled the world with his friend, he enrolled at Orange Coast College under the GI Bill, which so he was growing and achieving a lot of things. So he completely changed his life.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

So now we go, we're moving on to Julie Kibuishi. Okay. She's 21 years old. She was a dancer, an aspiring clothing designer. She was known to be sweet and really silly and would do anything for her family and friends. She's just the cutest thing, honestly. Well, post pictures. She's the sweetest. Okay, so she lived at home with her parents in Irvine, California. She was extremely close with her parents and her older brother Taca. Julie was a part of the fashion program at OCC. In fact, just before her death, she received the Outstanding Fashion Student of the Year Award. Wow. These two would end up meeting in an anthropology class while they were both attending OCC. Okay. And according to them, they had a bond that was more like brother and sister than romantic. Their friendship led to them hanging out a lot. And they did a lot of that outside of school at Sam's apartment building where a lot of the youth would actually gather. And like I said, they would gather in the pool area. There were like fire pits and stuff like that, and hang out with neighbors. And um, so it was because of that like trust and that bond that they were forming that Julie ended up tutoring Sam in the anthropology class that they were taking because he was actually failing it. And Julie is like star in academics, and she just received that award because she really is really good.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Yeah, really well.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

So even though these two people they were seemingly very close and like brother and sister, how did Julie end up dead in Sandy? In his apartment. Apartment. Yeah. Yeah. May 21st, 2010. That's a lot of 21s. Julie was having dinner with her brother Taca and his fiancee, and they presented her with a tiara and asked her to be a bridesmaid in their upcoming wedding. So of course she says yes and immediately puts on the tiara. Yeah, which you know. I understand because I am all about a tiara.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

100% everybody. I mean, if you go if you got a tiara in your presence.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Yeah, it's it's going on. It's going on. So at this dinner, you know, it's supposed to be a celebration and Julie is celebrating, but her brother Taca notices that she is constantly on her phone because she keeps receiving text messages, one after another. And these texts were from Sam. According to phone records, this was their text exchange. Sam, can you come over tonight at midnight alone? Going to be going to go out for a bit. Very upset. Need to talk. Julie, yeah, that's fine, Sam. I'm here. I'm like your family. Sam, please. No sex. I need to talk to someone. Julie, L O L ew, Sam. We're like bro and sis. No sex. Sam, I'm hurting. Bad family crap. Don't want anyone else to know what's going on. So with that, Julie headed to Sam's place at midnight, like she said she would. And she told Taca that she would text him when she arrived. At 12 30 a.m., Julie texts Taca. I got to Sam's. That was the last text that Taca would ever receive from his sister.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Wouldn't like you be a little like wary if you got a text from your friend that you are platonic with that said no sex. Yeah. Right. Like I would be like, who are who is this? Like this person obviously does not know sexy.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Don't worry, I'm not trying to ask you to come over to have sex. I really want to talk. I mean, but it's just an interesting preface.

SPEAKER_03 21:39

Like, yeah, it's not something that's happened.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

So why even say so that's I mean, that would make me either like this isn't him or he's like drunk or something.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Well, she just trusts that it's Sam. And she wants to help him because that's who she is. She just is always there for her friends and family. So the last. Text in this exchange between Julie and Sam is Julie saying, Hey buddy, where are you? I'm freezing. And Sam's saying, I'll come right down. The next day, May 22nd, Julie's mom woke up and Julie had not come home. She calls her, she texts her, and she doesn't answer. So she starts to get worried. And so she knows that she had dinner with Taca, and she calls him and goes, Hey, is Julie with you? And he says, No, she went to her friend, Sam's house last night. And because she's not answering, they're both super worried. So they decide they're gonna look through their phones and call all of Julie's friends that they know and see if they can get contact information for Sam. On the other side of Orange County and Anaheim Hills, Sam's parents are actually experiencing something very similar. Sam was supposed to stop by that day and he hasn't called them, hasn't come by. And then Sam's dad, Steve Her already knows that something's off because it's just that's not how his son is how his son is. But him and Sam are like they're best friends. That's how close they are. So after a while of not hearing from him anymore, Steve Her gets in his car and is like, I'm just gonna drive over and see if he's okay. So while he's driving over to Sam's house, Julie's mom is calling the police to file a missing person. Yeah. And they're like, of course, you know, she'll probably come home soon. And she's just adamant. This is not like my daughter. Yeah. She would never do this. She doesn't just not come home. She answers her phone. This is completely out of character. Something's really wrong. Okay. When Steve Hare got to his son's apartment, he didn't get an answer when he knocked at the door. So he let himself in. When he went into the apartment, he calls out to Sam and he doesn't hear from him and he doesn't see him immediately. So he walks back into Sam's bedroom. When he walks in, that's where he finds the dead body of a young girl who's positioned bent over the edge of the bed. Her pants have either been torn or ripped off, and they're down almost to her knees. She's got something written on her back. And through the dark mess of hair, he sees the sparkle, and it's that tiara. Oh. So he rushes outside and he calls the police. Frantically, he's like, I'm at my son's house. There's a dead body in this home, and I don't know who she is, and I can't find my son. So police and a team of friends.

SPEAKER_03 24:40

So they were while they were getting called from her mom, he calls them immediately after.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Yeah, but they're coming from but they're different. Like she's calling Irvine, it's going to an Irvine dispatch, and he's calling and it's Costa Mesa. So they haven't really put it together yet because he doesn't know who this is. And the first with her. Yeah, he doesn't know who she is. He can't tell who she is because there's just a whole mess of hair. She's been shot, and you can't tell anyways. Sorry. I didn't know. Okay. I forgot to say that. Okay. But, anyways, police arrive along with forensics. And when they get there, they do find next, not far from the body, a purse with the wallet still inside. And they do confirm that it is Julie Kibbuishi. And not far from that is her phone. So they have that, but they don't have Sam anywhere. No one can get a hold of him. His phone, his passport, and his car are all missing. And his dad is like, no, something had to have happened to him. Like, my son would not have done this. He would never have hurt her. And they're like, okay, well, on the back of her shirt is written, fuck you, she's all yours. So something happened. The police are thinking it's either a lover's quarrel gone wrong, or there was a love triangle of some sort that happened. But either way, they need to find Sam. They need to know what's going on. Yeah. And of course, Steve Hurz, like, whatever you need, I'm here to help, you know. So police interview, they start interviewing all the neighbors in the building. And it this included his downstairs neighbors, Daniel Wozniak and his fiancee, Rachel Buffett. The couple were friends with her in Kibuishi. And Wozniak actually said he saw Sam the day before at around 2:30, saw him getting into a car with a guy dressed in black, but he couldn't make out who the guy was and he didn't, he didn't recognize the car. So, I mean, at least they knew that Sam had been there and he wasn't, he didn't leave under like dress or anything like that. So around this time when police are doing their investigation, this is when they get a hold of Sam's prior arrest record and they see that it's connected to a murder. So this is not looking good for Sam. Right. You know, so May 23rd, this is when that news report that I saw came out because they were doing like basically not at all points bulletin, but they were really putting out to the public like, look at at this point, we have an ex-combat veteran who could have possibly had a PTSD episode. Yeah. The body of, and they claimed that of his girlfriend was found in his apartments. Which was not the case, but yeah, that's that was early reports. So that got released. And at this time, his dad is still working really closely with the lead detectives in order to try to find him. So he gives the lead detectives access to Sam's phone records, his bank account, and um, along with all of his contacts in his phone. So they're able to really comb through everything. That's when they discover the text message thread between Sam and Julie. And so honestly, it's it's just really not looking good. Yeah, you know. So shortly after Julie's body is discovered, and they because they're final they're tracking his baking information, they get a hit on an ATM that Sam's ATM card has taken out $400 at a place in Long Beach. So right now they're just thinking, okay, we're catching him on his route to escape. So they keep a close eye on that. And still, Steve Herr is like, no, something's going on. Like, this is not like my son in any way. But there's not much you can do other than try to be helpful and steer them in the right direction. Yes. I know I would be doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

I mean, it's like looking, I mean, I can understand how this is looking bad.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

It really is.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

Yeah, like a trail. Yeah. Essentially, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

It really is. So the next day or the next hit is at a pizza place in Long Beach. And so Steve, being the father that he is and trying to look out for his son, drove over to that pizza parlor. Oh, yeah. The police are doing whatever they're doing, and he was like, do-do-do, and he parked out in front of the pizza. Yeah, exactly. He parked in front of the pizza parlor and he just waited and hoping to see his son come and pick up that pizza so he can, you know, at least do something. Find him, make sure he's okay, but Sam never comes. If he would have stayed, he would have known the police contacted the pizza parlor and found out that it was connected to a delivery order that they received. Oh. So police get this address and they go directly to this home. They, I mean, reports later say that never mind. Oh, well, we're not gonna jump ahead. Okay. Okay. So they go to this house and they have it surrounded and they knock on the door, and they're fully expecting Sam Herr to open the door and they're gonna surprise them. Yeah. But it's not him, it is a 16-year-old boy named Wesley Freilich. Turns out this kid has no idea who Sam Herr is, and he's never met him before. How does he have his card? So when police questioned him about how he got his hands on Sam's ATM card, the story that Wesley would tell them would flip this whole story completely upside down.

SPEAKER_03 30:19

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Wesley tells police that his friend worked as a bail bail bondsman and that Sam had skipped bail, and now his friend owed the money for that bail. So Wesley Frelick was presented with what looked like government documents proving that Sam had skipped bail and that his friend had covered it, and now his friend owed all that money. So he wanted to help his friend. So because they had Sam's ATM card, the plan that his friend had set up with him is I'm gonna slowly get this money out, $400 a day from ATMs. If you'll help me do that, you know, like be my pal, essentially, because he's an older man. Okay. You can get a pizza every now and then. I'm confused. Okay. So who skipped bail?

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Sam. Okay. Is that and true? Hold please. Okay, but so Sam supposedly skipped bail. Yes. And this kid ha knows about that because of this other person.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

Who I am about to tell you.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

And this person is supposedly friends with Sam.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Yes. So no, well, no, he's the bail bondsman for the bail bondsman that covered Sam's bail. Okay, and now Sam is taken off and skipped bail, and the bail bondsman, who is the friend of Wesley, is now stuck essentially holding the bag. But how does he have Sam's card? The kid's 16. Yeah. This kid is 16. He's just buying the story that he's helping out a friend who has essentially been ripped off.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

Yeah. So just because this is such a crazy story, the friend, it turns out, is Sam's downstairs neighbor, Daniel Wozniak.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

Oh, okay. The Bale Bondsman. Yes. Is it is Daniel Wozniak. Downstairs neighbor. The one that they talked to. Yeah, the one they're friends with.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

Yeah. Yes. With the couple. The couple friends. Yeah. So Daniel Wozniak is 26 years old at this time. He's a community theater actor. Okay. He's engaged to his fellow actress, Rachel Buffett. Who he lived with. Who are downstairs.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

See your upstairs neighbors.

unknown 32:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Um, no, they were both my downstairs neighbors. Oh. Yeah. I was up. You were okay. Okay, I had it backwards up. Yeah. Okay. I was up. They were up. Okay. So please try to contact Daniel Wozniak and under the guise just to get him to come back in. Like, we we have more questions because you obviously saw him before. You're his neighbor. We want to find out more information from you. But he puts them off and is like, listen, I'm way too busy. I have a show coming up that I'm like the leading role in. And then him and Rachel are set to get married in a couple days. So he's like, I just don't have enough time. Police wholeheartedly don't believe that he's, you know, just busy. So they end up finding Daniel at his bachelor party at tsunami. Oh, tsunami. I loved tsunami. Like when I read this episode so bombed. Yeah. I mean, fine, rip pizza, wonderful. Rip was great. It's so good. But tsunami. Tsunami. Tsunami days were like the best. I love that. That was my Ninzoe's favorite date night.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

They did like club events and stuff there sometimes. They did fun stuff. It was really, it was a good spot.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

Thanks for ruining what ruining it, Wozniac. Regardless. So they pick him up at his bachelor party under ATM fraud. They were able to arrest him.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Okay. Bring him in. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:04

Lead detectives, Mike Cohen. I just want to know like, did the rest of them keep partying or was the party just over?

SPEAKER_01 34:11

No, it was a complete shock to everybody that was there. Okay. Like everybody. So lead detectives, Mike Cohen, Michael Delgadillo, and Lieutenant Ed Everett sit down for some questioning. Rosniak tells police that he and Sam had a plan hatched to use Sam's ATM card to do a little white-collar crime. They said that he tried to play off of this bail bond situation and said that Sam actually was in debt and he needed quick money to cover this bail bond situation, but that he also needed money because of his upcoming wedding, you know. And so he agreed just to help his friend. So he enlisted Wesley, who had no idea what was actually going on. Just he was a trusting kid. And when pressed, he about like, why would you have his ATM card? Right. At the same time, that this young woman's body's turning up in his house. Like something ain't right here. Yeah. You either are a part of it or you know way more than what you're saying. So he said, you know, this is all that I did. I was just helping a friend. Yeah. And I had no idea that anything had happened to Julie.

unknown 35:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:33

Well, some said this? No, this is Sam said Daniel. Daniel said, Yeah, this is Daniel. I know. It's a whole thing. Sam and Dan. Okay. Okay. No. So now Daniel gets booked, and the next time the detectives bring him back into interrogation, they ask him, can we take a DNA swab? Because we want to just rule you out. And he says, sure. Anything I can do, anything I can do so that I can get released so I can get married in a couple days. And they're like, so they swab him. Okay. And then as he's leaving, they're like, you know, you're not getting out anytime soon, right? This is like bank fraud. You're this isn't just, this isn't nothing, you know. Yeah. No amount of help is going to clear that, you know. So he does that and they lead him back out, but they know they have to keep pressing him. So later on, they put him through another interrogation. So total, the amount of hours that this man sat in interrogation is it's crazy, but that's how it works. Because later, during that interrogation, this the detectives on the case decided just to turn the heat up a little bit on them. They believe he knows more than what he's saying, possibly Sam's whereabout. And this is when Dan changes his story. He says that Sam called him in a panic. And when he got to Sam's apartment, he saw Julie's body from the living room. And he hadn't gone into the room, but she was already dead. So these seasoned detectives just knew there was more to the story. So that's when they tell Dan a little lie. They were like, Well, if you didn't go anywhere near this body, why did we find your DNA on the body and on furniture in Sam's room?

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

And to that, good one. Yeah. To that, Dan police, Dan tells police, well, I saw that she was dead from the other room. And so I went in just to make sure. And I checked her pulse.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

And they were like, okay, so what did you bent over the bed in this position?

SPEAKER_01 37:45

So the police were like, Oh, okay. So what'd you see when you went in there? And he goes, I don't know. I saw, I saw her dead body. She'd been shot twice in the back of the head. Like, that's what I saw. It was with this that Lieutenant Ed Everett knows that Daniel Wozniak's involvement is much more than he's letting on. You see, there was absolutely no way for Daniel Wozniak to know that she had been shot twice. Yeah. You couldn't tell. Yeah. It wasn't until they had done her autopsy that they were able to tell that she'd been shot twice. So something ain't had enough. Absolutely. So they sent him back to his cell and they know that they have to do some more investigation. So just detectives decide to bring in Daniel's fiancee, Rachel. So they have Rachel come in and they already are like on high alert because they know we have the fiance of this man who's they're supposed to be getting married in a couple days. So they have a bride whose wedding is possibly not going to happen, whose neighbor just has a dead body in his apartment, and now that guy's missing too. And somehow her fiance's tied up in all of this. So they're like, she's gonna be on edge. Do you have any idea?

SPEAKER_02 39:02

To say the least, like if I was getting hit, like all this was happening, and now it was a week before my wedding. Like this, oh no, this is dead.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

This is on like a Tuesday, and they're supposed to be getting married on Friday.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

This is no, this is like the wedding week of hell. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Yeah, yeah, right. Well, that's not what happened. She's not distraught, she's completely calm and seemingly emotionless. Like, this is not what you would expect. She tells detectives that the night of Sam's disappearance, she and Daniel had just performed like on stage together in the nine. Sorry, the night of the murder? Yeah. Okay. And that Daniel seemed fine. Rachel told police that she knows Sam had been having some family problems, but otherwise, like, he's a good guy. She had no idea where he was. But the last time she saw him, it was the same as Daniel. He was getting into the car with some guy dressed all in black, that they had no idea who they were. So because she agreed at that time to help in any way that she could and answer any other questions that they might have, they let her go because she wasn't tied to anything. But they knew that they just needed to like keep an eye on her. You know?

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

So as the night went on, the detectives brought Daniel back in for more questioning. They decided to just let Daniel talk because that's what he does. This man loves to perform himself talk.

unknown 40:25

True. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

He's lover. And that's exactly what happens. And then he talked himself into a corner. And Dan changed his story again. Again, perfect. Third time's a charm. Yeah, third time's a charm. Yeah. So Daniel ends up admitting that he was there and he witnessed Sam killing Julie. He said that Sam flew into a rage and he shot Julie in the head and then turned and put the gun on him and said, if you say anything and you don't help me escape and get money, yeah, I will kill, I will kill Rachel. Now they're victims. Yes. So he actually went into the room with them, and it was because he saw Julie murdered that he was like, Listen, I'll help you in whatever way you need. Just don't hurt me and don't kill Rachel. So he said that he took him to, he took him in his car. He drove Sam's car. They went to an ATM and then he dropped Sam off with some guy. He doesn't know who he was, but it was the guy dressed all in black. This alleged guy. And then he drove off. That was what that was his story. So Dan said he was terrified and he was just being like protective, if you will, of himself and Rachel. But that's he was just too afraid that Sam was gonna come back and kill them. That's why he had been dishonest with police.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

There have been now three times that this man in black in the car has been like brought up. Is there a man in black in the car in any way, shape, or form? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

So you're such a tease. I know. I feel like this has been said before. Um again, so he's the last time he sees him is Sam's driving off. Right. On May 27th, Daniel and Rachel share a phone conversation while he's in jail. And this is a transcript from that. Okay. Rachel. Tim told me that there's evidence that there's a bag. Dan is a bag. Who's Tim? Dan. Then I'm doomed. Rachel. What was in the bag, Dan? Dan. The worst. Just imagine the worst. That's what's in there. Rachel. Was it the gun? Dan. Yes. Rachel. Did you kill them, Dan? Dan. I did it for us. I wanted us to have everything. I didn't want to be a failure. So Dan, knowing that he'd implemented his brother Tim in this, decides he has to talk to police to save his brother. Rachel even says, you know that this is being recorded, right? I was gonna say, does he not know that all these phone calls are recorded? So he does. So the next question, or excuse me, the next time that Daniel meets with detectives, he tells them a story that is just worse than you could even imagine.

SPEAKER_02 43:45

Fourth time. So we're changing the story. Changing the story. Is this the real story? This is the real story. This is the real story. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

This is the real story of what happened on May 21st. Daniel Wozniak was deeply in debt. He, like all Narcissist loved to be center stage and have all the attention on him. So instead of getting a real job or maintaining a real job, which by all accounts he was unemployable doing anything else, but he chose to be the leading man, the leading man in theater productions, which is not easy work, but they're actually leading men are in high demand. So the fact that he could act and sing and all those things, he did it, but there was no money in it. So between that getting married and having no money, and then they police find out that Daniel and Rachel are actually being evicted from their apartments, they would be out by the end of the month. So Dan hatched a plan. And he maybe put off the wedding. I know, right?

SPEAKER_02 44:51

It also doesn't really cost that much money to get married if you don't have a wedding. Yeah, if you don't. You can still get married.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

But having to be the center of attention.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

Yeah, it's got to be a show. Yeah, yeah. It does.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

It's for the wedding. It's not for the marriage.

SPEAKER_02 45:02

Of course.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

Dan lured his friend and neighbor, Sam Her to the Liberty Theater in Los Alamitos under the pretense that he had some heavy theater equipment that he needed help getting down from an attic. And of course, physical activity. Sam, being the ever helpful friend that he was, was more than help happy to go along and to help them out.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

When they got up to the attic, Dan shot Sam twice in the back of the head.

SPEAKER_00 45:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

And then he left to go and perform in the play The Nine. So his body is in there? Is it still there? Is in the attic.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Well, not at this moment. Yes. In the attic again with attics. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_01 45:43

Yes. So he left it there and went to a, he went to another, I'll be very theater to perform the nine. But still, he left him up there. Wait. Okay. So he wasn't even performing at the theater that he needed to move somewhere. No, but he needed, that's why he needed to get some theater equipment out of there to take it over.

SPEAKER_03 46:02

Okay. So And because that's not where the play is, he knew nobody would be there. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 46:06

And no, this is located on the Los Alamados base. Oh. So it's not like it's in use all the time. Right. So that night, castmates and people that were in attendance would say that this was the best performance of Daniel's career. Wow. After the show's over, they have like the little rap party, and while all the cast is celebrating, Daniel's in the back with Sam's phone texting Julie about coming over. And that's why. See, it wasn't because of the sex thing. Because he needed to carry out the second phase of his plan, framing Sam. Just two hours later, Dan would run into Julie outside of Sam's apartment, and he would say, Oh, Sam's been messaging me too. I'm so worried about him. And you know what? I have a spare key, and it's super cold outside. Do you want to just wait inside for him? He's probably gonna be right back. And that's when he lured her into the bedroom and was like, Oh my god, I found something on this bed. You have to see it. And then he shot her twice in the back of the head. And then he positioned her. And as a cutter, staged the scene, yeah. She wasn't actually assaulted, he just wanted it to look like it was so that he could throw police off. Okay. That way he could dispose of Sam's body.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

So after he killed Julie, he went home, took a shower, had sex with Rachel, and then went to bed. I bet that was his best performance, too. Slept like a baby that night. So the next day he went back to the Liberty Theater and he dismembered Sam. He took the appendages and Sam's head and he scattered them around nearby El Dorado Nature Park in Long Beach. I have two. Zoe and I used to go on walks through there. I'm telling you what. I'm telling you, Zoe and I both say the same thing when we go on certain hiking trails. We'll go, oh yeah, there somebody's died here. Oh yeah. For sure. And there'll be photos linked. It's the perfect place to just hide some bodies. But he left the torso in the attic because how was he gonna get rid of it? Basically, he didn't know. So, and regardless, so he goes and does that, and then he takes off his bloody clothes, he takes the instruments that he used to dismember the body and the gun, he puts it in a backpack, and then he gave that backpack to his brother Tim and asked him to get rid of it. Oh, but he didn't. Did Tim know what was in it? I I don't think he opened it until his brother got arrested at the bachelor party. And then it was like, what's going on? Right, you know? Yeah. And honestly, Daniel Wozniak comes from a really good family from all accounts. Like they're good people. It's it's crazy to me that somebody like him could come from a family like that.

SPEAKER_02 49:04

I don't understand why he killed Julie. So like why he could have just Sam could have just vanished.

SPEAKER_01 49:10

The whole point of that was that it wasn't just for him to vanish, you know. He needed that $62,000 that Sam had earned and he had saved because, yes, he was cheap, but he had life goals, you know. He wanted to finish college and then he was going to apply for a higher position within the army and he needed a degree for it. He had his life set. And Daniel needed to go on a honeymoon. In fact, when they during the investigation, they found the Google searches, and in them it was how to murder someone, how to get rid of a body. But then also how to murder someone. Why do people do this? Also trying to look up vacation destinations and cruises to Mexico and shit like that. How was he gonna get a few more?

SPEAKER_03 49:58

How much for $52? Get me.

SPEAKER_02 50:00

He's not like $400 at a time. So that was his plan. That was so long. Just to pull $400 at a time out of his ATM? Exactly. That's math I can't even do anymore. So basically, the only reason he killed Julie was to cover that Sam killed her, so he bailed and had to get out of town. Yes.

unknown 50:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:19

That's why you couldn't. But he's pulling the this money out of the ATMs. ATMs have cameras.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

They're gonna like how much I mean it's still under his name, so they're assumedly like that Sam himself is supposedly pulling this money out, $400 at a time.

SPEAKER_01 50:32

Well, let's just say he's not.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

Well that's why he gave Wesley the card.

SPEAKER_01 50:35

Exactly. Okay. This kid was also in theater with him. So he just thinks, oh my gosh, this is just uh like the leading man. He wants to get good like points with them. He wants, you know, that kind of thing. He just took advantage of these innocent people. It's horrible. So during the interrogation, while he's saying this, police are like, What are you doing? What are you talking? Like, why would you do this? And it's so fucking cringy. And we will link the interrogation video because you have to hear it. He does the worst, like crappy joker laugh, and he's like, I'm crazy. And he proceeds to like laugh. And they're like, You're crazy. What did you do? And he goes, I killed them. I killed Sam and Julie. Trying to get like the insanity pleasing. Like it's so fucking weird, cackly. And he's, I was like, listen, that better have been his best performance that night before because this is horrible. This is talking.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

I'm like, uh, then he wasn't that good of an actor.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

No, he wasn't. Like from what I could tell, and just through the interrogation, I was like, oh yeah, this guy's guilty. Like the police were right to pick up on that end. So regardless, that was in 2010. So in December of 2015 is when he was finally tried. But over that five-year period, Daniel appeared on multiple media outlets. Of course, ABC's 28 hours. Yeah, he's gonna be looking for CBS's 48 hours. He was on MMS NBC's lockup during which he was like, I'm a good guy. Like the perception is just wrong. I'm like, you are not a good guy. You're a fucking psychopath. I just cannot. So he was convicted on December 16th of two counts of first degree murder with special circumstances, including murder for financial gain. The jury's decision took less than two hours. Perfect. Yeah. And then when he was sentenced in September of 2026, it was to death. So 2026? Oh, excuse me. December 2016. Oh, that is 2016. Okay. I've written 2026 three times today. But yeah, sentenced to death. Very happy about that.

SPEAKER_03 52:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:49

So yeah, I mean, just uh presented at a time where just the insane Google searches. They, I mean, it was so sad. I watched this interview with Sam's dad, and he's just like a couple days after they found after um Daniel confessed to murdering his son, was actually Sam's birthday. And on Sam's birthday, they're searching El Dorado Nature Center for his son's body parts, and all he can remember wishing is I hope that they find Sam's head. Like that's what I'm wishing on my son's birthday is that they find his head. That's awful. I just I cannot. So I want to get back to fiance Rachel Buffett. Yeah. Because detectives knew that she was lying. They knew she was lying after Daniel's confession because she told the same bullshit lie. Yeah, I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:44

She was obviously she saw him get into the guy in the street. Yeah, she was obviously like told what to say.

SPEAKER_01 53:50

And then Sam was having family problems, but Sam's literally best friends with his dad. Stop it. I mean, just stop. So a jury believed the same thing, and she was tried and convicted of accessory after the fact. Yeah. She was, I think she was convicted to 50 months in prison.

SPEAKER_03 54:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

In between this time, over that five years before she was actually put on trial, she also went on TV. She went on the Dr. Phil show. She's an actress too. Yeah. Yeah. But surprise, Steve Hare was waiting for her on that Dr. Phil show to tell her what a piece of garbage she was. I need to find this episode. Like, you're going to use my son's death to try to make yours make you look like a victim. Like you had some role in this. Like just sit all the way down.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

Well, I mean, just alone the you know, correspondence that she had about what was in it. Was it the gun? That means she knew also that he had killed them. And did you go then?

SPEAKER_03 54:50

Because they didn't know he was dead at the time.

SPEAKER_02 54:52

Yeah. And that's the thing. Like, there wouldn't have been any reason for her to assume that there it would have been a gun if she didn't know that he shot them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

But her what she was trying to say is like, I was trying to help police. I was, I was just trying to lead him down that path.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

And if you were trying to help police, then instead of saying the exact same story that he told you, you would have said no. He told me that he killed them. Yes. Like exactly.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

And you're also in a relationship with this guy. So you're gonna marry this guy. It is yeah. So that happened to in my life in 2010. I have Zoe. That is uh around the time that my parents actually got together. So it's you know, I don't know, maybe Zoe was a year at this point, and they went over and I was having dinner at their house. And like I said, my stepsister and her husband, most amazing, wonderful, caring, light of the world people. We were all sitting around at dinner, and I was talking about how happy I was to have moved. And I said the story, and they were like, Oh my god, some of our friends, well, they didn't. I will I will change that because neither one of them would ever talk gossip about anybody. It's just not who they are.

SPEAKER_04 56:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

But other people at the table who were also their friends were like, Oh yeah, some of our friends were at that bachelor party. Dang. While we hear from a lot of guys that knew him were like, No, I we didn't know any of this about Daniel Wozniak. And he like was just an actor and he was the carefree guy and all that stuff. The girls were like, uh-uh, I knew something was wrong with him. And I was like, Yeah, seeing trust your instincts. Yeah, trust your instincts. But I'm just saying, like, such a fucking small world. Wow. How is this world so tiny that we live in? It's it's wild. This whole story just it makes my heart so sad because you didn't need to involve either one of them. Like, just fucking rob him or something, right?

SPEAKER_02 56:45

I mean, that's the other thing. Like, I mean, obviously the murder of Julie was completely unnecessary. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 56:53

I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

Yeah. So she's out then in Rome. Rachel. Oh, yeah, Rachel's out.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

Yeah, been out.

SPEAKER_03 56:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:59

Wow. It's 16 years old. She'd been on Dr. Phil after she was out, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 57:03

I think it was before.

SPEAKER_03 57:04

Oh, okay. Yeah, it was before, but um before she was like indicted? But yeah. For sure. Okay. I think so. In between.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

I'll have to double check on that. But I really do believe that it was before she actually went to prison. Okay. Because it took a while for those charges to be brought up.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

Of course. Yeah. Yeah. So wow. I mean, yeah, it's just this is like This is wild. The fact that that was the whole point was to get to this money $400 at a time. This is the worst plan I've ever heard in my life. The worst. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

I'm gonna go between trying to find ways to murder people then to looking forward to the city.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

Plan my yeah, planning my honeymoon.

SPEAKER_01 57:43

Ugh. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 57:45

Garbage.

SPEAKER_01 57:45

It is garbage and he's gross.

SPEAKER_02 57:47

And the fact that he could just like kill him and then go perform in a best performance of his life.

SPEAKER_03 57:55

He was on cloud nine.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

Yes. That's insane.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

That's just ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 57:59

And these are, I mean, look. I'm not saying that it's easier or should be easier to off somebody that you don't like, but these were two really good people that everybody liked. They, I mean, they spent time together. It just blows my mind. But he's exactly where he deserves to be.

SPEAKER_04 58:22

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 58:23

And that makes me happy. That's a good ending, but I feel so bad for the kibuishis and the hairs. Makes me heart sad. Yeah. That is the story of um POS Daniel Wozniak. Yeah. And yeah, just trust your instincts.

unknown 58:41

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:42

Well. That was a wild ride. Guy in black in the cart.

SPEAKER_01 58:45

No guy in black.

SPEAKER_02 58:46

Okay. That was just, it was just. It just came up so many times that I was like, there has to be something going like having to do with this, but apparently not anything at all. Okay. Maybe.

SPEAKER_03 58:55

He's just trying to send them on a goose chase, trying to find this other guy.

SPEAKER_01 58:58

He really did. But ended up cracking because he's because he sucks and he's dumb.

SPEAKER_02 59:04

And he's obviously not a very good performer.

SPEAKER_01 59:06

No.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Because he can't lie. No, right? Which is not pretty much 90% of acting. Yeah. I mean, that's really what the acting is.

SPEAKER_00 59:14

I wish. I mean, maybe that's why I feel like I can never do it. No, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 59:25

Before we go, you guys, shout out to the girls that are in my class at Orange Coast College during our dental assisting program. These amazing queens constantly are so supportive of me and of us. They've done little videos and reels and stuff like that. They're just so sweet. They're the sweetest things on the planet. And I love all of you. And I'm so grateful.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

And thank you so much. And if you also want to find us, where could they do that?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:06

They could do that on Instagram and Facebook and TikTok. And you can email us thegirls at socalslaughters.com.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:15

And YouTube.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:16

And YouTube where you can watch us, or if you don't watch and you just want to listen, Apple and Spotify.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

Yeah. Yeah. And don't forget to subscribe. Subscribe. Like, comment, rent, rate, all those fun, amazing things. All the good things you can do.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:32

Every week we have new content. We have new drinks to try. Definitely give these drinks a try. Yeah. I mean, for me, you know, mine are always non-alcoholic, but they're so good. And we do come up with really good cocktails that can go both ways.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:49

And our and our episodes come out on Sundays, but um we do post the cocktail videos on uh Feral Friday. So it gives you enough time to get the ingredients you need together. So if you're gonna turn us on, drink along with you can drink along with us, you can sip with us. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:09

Yeah, you can sip with us.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:10

And then the community too, don't forget, YouTube community on. Let us know. Um, about the what were we talking about earlier? I was thinking about it before the case. We have bowling. You bowl? Are you good at bowling? Do you have bowling shoes? Do you bowl? How serious of a bowler are you? And how many of your friends have you never told this to? How long did it take you to get your first turkey?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:35

I don't know what that means. Real bowlers know what that means. Like it's not Thanksgiving. What are you talking about? Stop! But you know what? Bowling on Thanksgiving would be so much fun. Uh, are you guys ready to close the tab on tonight's cake?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:52

Till next time.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

Don't get sick.