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Memphis lands the No. 3 pick and the mood shifts from survival to possibility. We sit down with Anthony Sain from ESPN Radio and Bluff City Media to unpack what the 2026 NBA Draft lottery result means for the Grizzlies, how fans in the city actually reacted in real time, and why this moment feels like a rare reset button for a franchise that’s taken some bruises.
We dig into the lottery board and the tanking conversation, including which teams drew the loudest side-eye and why the league landscape could change quickly, especially out East. Then we move into the NBA Draft combine, where we separate useful signals from noise: measurements that clarify upside, athletic testing that can break a tie, and the tricky truth that coaching roles can hide a player’s real defense, rebounding, or shot profile.
From there it’s all Memphis: whether moving up from 16 should be the priority, what it costs, and how a front office builds a two-man foundation that can actually scale into playoff basketball. We break down top prospects like Cameron Boozer, Darryn Peterson, and Caleb Wilson with an eye on fit next to the current roster, plus the leadership lessons the organization has to internalize after the Ja Morant era. If you care about the Grizzlies, the 2026 NBA Draft, or how teams turn picks into a plan, this one is for you.
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Welcome And Why Memphis Matters
SPEAKER_00What is up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draft and Stash Podcast. It is May 13, 2026. I'm your host, Andrew. On today's show, we now know the lot results, the draft combine stuff's about to be wrapped up, and I've got a special guest that's gonna help me kind of like you know get all this stuff in order, but before we can do that, gotta hit the intro.
SPEAKER_03With the first pick, Victor Wimblingum, Shaquille O'Neal, the Sean Hornets select Hobby Bron. The Chicago Holmes picked Michael Jordan. Stephen Hurley, Rumbling James. One of the most exciting drafts I can remember, and in the years I've been doing this, I think this craft is the best and the deepest.
SPEAKER_00Alright, on today's show, we're gonna be handling a couple things a little bit more grizzlies in here. I am from the region, and not just that, but they have a really interesting path going forward. But I need somebody of uh of note here to actually help me out. So, all right, Memphis, my guest today. Uh, you can catch him on ESPN Radio Talking Grizz with Jason and John. You can catch his personal takes on X at Sane Asylum. You can catch him holding it down on the Bluff City on the Bluff City Media Network on the Anthony Sane show. He's a new mouth from the south coming off the top rope with that MBA knowledge, the man in the room for all things Memphis, the big dog himself, Anthony Sane.
SPEAKER_01My man. What is up, man? I'm good, brother. I appreciate the intro, bro.
SPEAKER_00I was like, if anybody can you know fully appreciate that, you know, it's you.
SPEAKER_01So and the train is going a little longer, man.
SPEAKER_00You know, I wasn't sure if you liked that intro or the or it's old one, or or if you're more of like a trick whims guy now.
SPEAKER_01No, I'm I'm cool, but I'm still I I am no longer the tribal chief of Grizz Twitter. I go by the underground king of Mivis. Okay, but hey, we could go either way. Devin, don't play the don't play the Triple H music for me, though. I don't want King of Kings, man. So I don't need that, but I am the Underground King for sure.
SPEAKER_00At first I was thinking maybe the rock, but then I was, I was like, nah, like you know, I'm feeling like a little bit of a room.
SPEAKER_01You did right with Roman, man. You did right with Roman.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, all right, straight. All right, on today, we're just gonna be, you know, like kind of handling things. And I I don't like to be in this like this personal like echo chamber myself. So it's always great to have somebody else come on to toss me their thoughts on things because it can really help me grow just in general. And I thought, you know, you are if anybody here in Memphis, I think your your hand is or your fingers is like firmly on the vibes in terms
Lottery Night Reactions In Memphis
SPEAKER_00of just how people feel. After we got the third pick, what was your your immediate reaction from like everybody else?
SPEAKER_01Oh man, trying to recover my voice, man. I'm still doing it. They they told me I need to start drinking cold water and drink some hot water, but I lost my voice screaming. I was out with my man Rusty Wynn at uh Grind City Brewing, doing our thing, watching the watch part of there. And just the initial excitement of I ain't gonna lie, man, the way Adam Silver got it, is you know, is is they do the commercial, they get they get to they go through the bottom teams, then they announce the top four, then they take you to break. And that that time during those commercials, man, was just euphoric. You had time to check your text messages, see what Twitter was saying, and uh the haters were already coming out saying, man, they got the they got the most egregious tanking teams in the top four, right? You know what I mean? For the for the final, the final draft lottery that involves tanking. Like, you know, this is the last one where teams even have been able to tank. But it was just the excitement, the anticipation, man, the relief that, you know, it was a tough season having to uh watch or not watch this team tank, man. And to see it pay off to get into that top four and land at three, uh, it was a super dope feeling. And I was with my guy Rusty Witten at the time. I wanted to make sure I was around at least one fan. And I was with a few of them. I was I was there with some, I was in good company at uh Grind City Broom.
SPEAKER_00Man, I I guess let's just kind of like hop into the exact results here. So what's kind of crazy is I feel bad for the Kings a little bit. Like that they were the only team that that legitimately was not good, right? You know, and like everybody else, most of the roster was was injured, you know. I mean, the Jags.
SPEAKER_01It's pretty egregious at the top, man. Uh just traded for two all-stars and played neither one of them after the trade, after the trade deadline. Utah traded for Jared did the same thing. And Utah's so egregious, man. Utah has been they've been tanking with teams that have had talent for the last four or five years. Those teams have been good enough to compete, man. And they tanked again, and now they're probably they may mess around and get AJ the banster after all. Us did some pretty egregious stuff uh at the end by not signing the center, not playing the center at all.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. I mean, well, like I think the Pacers, I don't want to say like got unlucky. I think that they made a pretty risky gamble. You know, I think we were all pretty shocked. I I think maybe you and I had talked about, you know, maybe trading Jaron there for their pick, you know, and you had said, like, you know, that there's no way that they're gonna like, you know, trade that. And then like a few weeks later, they did, and it had some light protections, and you know, it just didn't fall their way. So now that they had a terrible year, they tanked all year and and they lost their pick. And the Clippers really needed this, man. Like, like they have been drained from the Thunder for like three seasons now. They just keep taking all their assets. So, do you think that the Clippers have a path here to to actually draft somebody and maybe get back, or is their team just not really just in general, not really strong enough?
SPEAKER_01Man, if I were the Clippers, I would move that pick, man. I mean, you know, once you get past four, you're getting into that awesome run of high-level guards. And I think that, you know, you've already got Darius Garland there. And not that he's, you know, just some world-beating guard, but you could you, you may need to, it may be better for you to trade that fifth pick to a team like Memphis, for instance, that has a real first round picks. They may be willing to trade you some future picks that you could definitely use to retool after you gave away deals, uh, picks in the OKC deal. You barely got a you know, luck gave you a uh a pick this year. Uh the Clippers, I would consider moving,
The Full Lottery Board And Tanking
SPEAKER_01uh moving that pick for more talent just because of the guys that are there. You know what I mean? You got could you take a Keenan Waggler and put him at the two next to Garland? Sure. But I'll this is probably just me being, you know, optimistic for the Grizzlies. This is me definitely showing bias, but but yeah, you could definitely get a good player there. You could definitely get a franchise piece there as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like I just don't know where they go. Because, you know, you could say maybe like a Daimara as their like new center, but I uh you know kind of wild taking that. Yeah, and then like you obviously can't take Acuff there because like you know, him and Garland, you know, they're not gonna guard anybody. You know, you could maybe do Wagler there, but you know, like I just I don't know. It's it's so tricky there. So like I kind of agree with you that I could see them maybe trading back and maybe getting like a few other pieces or something, like here and there. But like based on how this fell, do you think that this will affect the the overall like landscape in the NBA for like like you know, for the good, or do you think that this just really won't affect anything?
SPEAKER_01My Grizz conspiracy brain when I saw a lot of these things go down. If you could I don't know if you could pull that graphic up and keep me on or not, but yeah, just going back, looking at this, Washington's kind of set up to compete, man. Like that Eastern Conference really needed a boost. And you look at it, Watson's gonna get a really good player there. I'm talking about the Eastern Conference now. The Chicago Bulls are gonna get a good player. That team was was pretty good before they broke things up. They still got some good pieces there. Brooklyn, that's not gonna affect much anything. But Atlanta at eight can do some. This could be a really big summer for the Hawks, man. If they get you get a lead, let's say you get a lead guard there, right? You get a good guard at eight, or you can move up a little bit and get an even better guard. And then you do a deal with like maybe an OKC and you get an Isaiah Hardenstein or somebody like that, right? This could be a very big summer for Atlanta. The Bucks, who knows what's gonna happen with them as far as East goes. Miami, don't know, don't care. Charlotte could get a good player that can make them even better. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think that the Eastern Conference could get a little stronger after this draft for sure.
SPEAKER_00Man, it's kind of crazy. I feel bad for the Bucs. Like they that they won the title and then they have just been mismanaged for like four straight years, that they've lost all the talent, all their draft picks have been bad, and now that they're just down to just Giannis and guys. I'm like, man, this is what an awful run for him.
SPEAKER_01But then was when they got Dame. When they when it could have they should have kept it the way they gave up too much to give up Dame, and then it just got really bad after that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Like the fact that they they they traded all that for Dame and then paid him to like not play anymore is is just insane.
SPEAKER_01I will say that's the sign Miles Turner, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly, right? And like I'll say that I'm I'm happy that Dallas moved back. Like, I I didn't want them getting like you know anything else, you know. I I I still feel like it was kind of cheating last year that they got you know, flag out of nowhere. And then like as it started, I was like, I was hoping that let like 12 and 11 were the Thunder and the Warriors because it's just like man, if there was any type of real conspiracy, like it was gonna be them popping up, right? And so it felt good for them to just not get any better because I'm tired of of Curry and the Warriors. It's it's been a great 12 years. Damn, man. I mean, like, it's just time to be done with it. Finally.
SPEAKER_01I think you're muted, but I was locked onto the TV saying this thing better go Charlotte, Miami, OKC. Yeah. It better not, it better not be any different than how it's laid out. But I I didn't really expect that. A lot of people, you know, my my fellow Grizz conspirators, they were looking at the Steve Kerr thing when he said he was coming back for two years and oh, they they got guaranteed number one pick. I said, No, that feels more like hey, we're gonna get Draymond out of here this summer thing. It sounded more like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, so let's move into the combine here. Like, so for you personally, like I know that we've talked and you said that normally you're not a big draft guy unless obviously the critics are really bad. So this year, I'm assuming they gave you paying attention more.
SPEAKER_02They gave me a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Do you care about the combine at all? I mean, like, it like like are you just hearing numbers and thinking like, yeah, I don't care. Like, like the guy hoop or not.
SPEAKER_01It's not gonna make me like a guy less than I already like, but it will like me make a will make me like a guy more that I already like. Uh case in point is I've been debating about you know Boozer versus Caleb Wilson, right? I've liked Boozer. And seeing that his measurements are so close to uh Caleb Wilson, and Caleb Wilson might be a little smaller in some areas.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Those those type of things, and seeing uh the shuttle speed and all those type of things, that's those things have been impressive. It's got me back on the A-Cup train, man. It's it's A-Cuff in season for me again. I was kind of off of him. But seeing that he's right there with the rest of those guys in the top of the list on those guards and the wings that he has. I've also got a thought process that his defense was a product of John Calipari. Like, you hear a lot of weird stories about these coaches giving these guys like strange instructions, right? Like, don't play defense at all. Like, we you know we've got we've got other guys that can defend. We need you to play 40 minutes a game. I can very much see that being something that Calipari said. Because if you watch A Cup play defense, man, like bro, this it looks like, okay, bro, this looks like I I put it on three. It looked like the scene from Blue Chips when when when Tony was was uh say was point shaven. I'm like, no, bro, there's no way. Like there's no way that's real, bro. Like that's not real, like there's no way that's him actually playing defense.
SPEAKER_00Damn, yeah. Shit. That's man, well, but it that's a great cut. I just thought I was great.
SPEAKER_01Like, there's no way, bro. Like, it looks like he's being instructed to defense, yeah.
SPEAKER_00What's so like I was kind of like hoping a little bit that maybe his measurables were closer to like where Kingston Fleming fell. Because then I'm like, like, okay, now I get him not having the you know these great stats on defense.
SPEAKER_01But he had a better body than Kingston Fleming.
SPEAKER_00But he's got yeah, he's bigger than Kingston. Like, you know, I mean his wingspan is almost 6'8. Like, like you should accidentally get over a steal a game. You know, it's so it's wild.
SPEAKER_01When you look at him, he looks like a dude that's a dog that's gonna go hard on both ends. Yeah. Like, bro, there's no way. Like, he looks like Caliper told him, dude, you're playing on a bad ankle. I need you to play 40 minutes a game. You got elite defenders all around you. Like, get somewhere and sit down, man. It looks, it looks like he's being told to do that. It didn't look like this effort issue with him.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, I mean, like, honestly, if if a cuff can just be like, there's like I let's say as good as Ja was, you know, and like I think that that's fine, right? Because, you know, for for the most part, Ja Morant, like, really tried on defense. He was just so damn small, it just didn't matter. Like, you know, so but on certain nights, I mean, like, he's always taken like, you know, hard hits and he's going around screens, he's getting crushed and and like chase down blocks. It's just that, you know, he can't hold the guy in front of him. So A Cup's got like, you know, he's already over like 190, right? So, you know, he's already got like like around the same height, he's got longer arms than like Ja did. Um, he's a much better shooter. So guys have to actually like you know play up on him. So, you know, that'll give him more room to actually like cut corners and stuff on people. It's just he's such a bad rebounder. Like, like, so that's that's one of my main issues with him. He's he might be the worst, you know, guard in terms of like rebounding in this class, you know. So that that to me, it could be like a calibre thing where where he's telling him not to like hit the glass or something, but I don't know. So it's just that there's too many things that are maybe this, maybe that. And so that's what like really worries me. Now it let's say that we're at 12 and he's there, then then cool, dope. Now I at like three, I'm just you know, like if we landed at six or seven, cool. But at three, he's just not on that board.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, definitely not three. I'm not I'm not nearly suggesting I'm also of the belief that the Grizzlies are going to move up in this draft. They've done it in every draft, they've they've moved up.
SPEAKER_00That's true.
SPEAKER_01Everyone. You know what I mean? So I believe that they will move up from 16. Like I said, you've got a ton of first-round picks, and you know, going future in the draft, you know, we what pick you have, or like whether your team's good or bad, really don't even matter. If you got more shots to move up in to the draft, those are the things that matter. You know what I mean? So the Greeks do have a lot of future first-round picks that don't belong to them that are from other teams. So I could definitely see them moving up in this draft like they've done every other draft.
SPEAKER_00Is there anybody that you think was just so bad at the combine that they just cost themselves like a lot of money?
SPEAKER_01No, not a lot of money type stuff. I think that you know, the the Caleb
Clippers Options And Trade Scenarios
SPEAKER_01Wilson stuff may have solidified some things if for teams that are debating, you know, Boozer versus Caleb Wilson.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um I mean, but not not to the point where because me personally, when it comes down to Memphis, if we have Caleb Wilson or Cam Boozer, I'm gonna, you know, run down the street excited, you know, after Raf Knight. So I don't I don't care either one. I'll be super cool with, but you know, but I think to some people it may be, you know, that may be a decision like that for sure.
SPEAKER_00Uh for me, like the the two guys that kind of stand out, and like Koa Pete out of like Arizona, he just he has not, I mean, like he's his like the entire time, you know, he's been built as this like big power forward, strong body, great, like you know he can jump, and all this, all this like shit, you know, just wasn't good. Like, you know, his his like his overall measurables weren't great, his like pop off the ground wasn't great, he missed every damn shot he took. Like, I'm just like this dude is not gonna not going very well for him. And then you mentioned you know, Flemings who who was supposed to be 6'4 with these long arms, he's actually like barely 6'2, and his arms are like 6'3, and you're just like, oh shit, but you know, I mean, besides that, like all this other combine stuff was you know good though. So, you know, like I guess it just kind of like is what it is. So let's just kind of move on. We're gonna get more into the grizzlies here in general. Let's see, where did I have that? I'm so sorry. So we had talked a little bit the other night, and you are very much of the mindset, let's just empty the the the the chess now, right? And and and and just try to like move up now. So what are so like how much are you willing to give up to move up from 16 into that top 10?
SPEAKER_01Whatever whatever it costs for for Thanos to snap the world, whatever, bro. Like for real, like my thing is if you if you go if you got a guy in the top three, whether you go on Boozer, whether you land a Darren Peterson, whatever happens, right? You know, we we said things might get weird in their top two. If you get if you could get your big, go get your guard. If you draft a guard, go get your big. Like, make this, make your get your two-man game, establish your two-man game this year. Like, go get your dudes now. So you can peek, you can compete next season. Whatever happens after that, it happens. But go solidify your roster now, man. If you if you can turn this thing around quickly as far as the rebuild is concerned, do that, man. Like, because you've already got Cedric Howard, you've already got Zach Edy. You got a ton of great role players around those guys that are still young on great deals. Go get you two more players this year, get you two picks in the top 10, two in the top eight, two in the top seven. Whatever you gotta do to get this roster where it needs to be. Whether I say, like I said, whether that's a big and a guard, you know, go big first and go chase a guard later, or draft a guard high and chase a big, go get what you need to solidify the roster, man. Go get your get your roster together now. That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_00I can't I can't argue with that. You know, I like for everybody that I hate it that people on on like on Twitter and everything, just they they make it seem like that is the entire fan base talking, which I know isn't true, but that they're so that they're so loud and aggressive, and just the the John Morant, you know, people, it makes me mad because you and I are both older. We've been watching the Grizzlies literally since they came here. Like, you know, I was like I was a casual basketball fan, you know, in the 90s, like I was a big, you know, Sean Kemp guy, Larry Johnson. Like, like I loved all the like angry guys. When we were good, we're I forget the exact year, but when we were announced to have a team, I went and watched the finals. That was the year that Allen Iverson drops Tyloo, and then I went out and started playing basketball like five and six times a week. Like I like it got me fully back in. And people don't understand, like, we used to get clowned on. Like, you know, I mean, like, like people think that the the ESPNs mean to us now. Like, we were the joke in movies. I mean, like TV shows, they would openly laugh at us, like on all these broadcasts. It was awful. Then Pow and them came in, made the playoffs, but then they couldn't win any damn games, you know, there. And so then when the grit and grind stuff happened, I think that it really just culminated. We just were finally over Yeah, just finally like in that conversation. People can clown on us anymore. It was now like just it was an actual rock fight all of a sudden. So when we got John Morant, it was like, yo, we finally got that guy that for 20 years we have been hearing about is needed, da da da. He he loves Memphis, he's a high flyer. Fans are out in droves. They they also draft Brandon Clark and this guy and Desmond Bain, and Jaron's already here, and you're just like, damn. And then ESPN's like handing us flowers, saying that we're the next best team for the next five, six years.
SPEAKER_01How many championships will the Memphis Grizzlies win? That was a that was a that was a conversation point to lead off a sports center, ESPN or one of those shows.
SPEAKER_00And and then to just have it all fall apart how it did, you know, and and now you know with this with this news now, it just was his team just cursed in in like a way in that like sports world where because you couldn't write this, you know, you you couldn't write all all the antics with Ja and Dylan, you know, with all this stuff on the court, with with just this and that. It just man, it just hurts. So to get another like quote unquote like chance out of Ja Morant is just man, it feels so good. It it just I was so scared that we were gonna be bad for another like five or six years, but you know, being able to land maybe Darren Peterson at this point because you know Cam Boucher's starting to like slowly like look like pass him. And Darren Peterson's awesome. So I mean, like, you know, people are people are like yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Man, yeah, and I was we were talking about that today on my show as well. It's it's a good feeling, man, to feel like I never thought they'd be down, you know, four or five years. I didn't I didn't think that was gonna be the case, but it could definitely be a much faster rebuild, especially if you come out of this with guy with bro, two guys in the top ten or two in the, you know, if you come out with two in the 16, you can make some things happen, man. You know what I mean? There's a lot of things you can do, uh, even if you stand pat at 16. But, you know, it's it's a good feeling to know that they have an opportunity to get that guy. But when you talk about like what went wrong, I think the key word is just leadership, man. Like whether you're talking about front office that you want to blame that, not having a you gotta remember, Ja's rookie year was Zach Kleiman's rookie year. So you had a very green, inexperienced rookie GM who came in with Ja. They came into this together, figuring this thing out.
SPEAKER_00Coach was new too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the coach is pretty new. He was your team. It was his yeah, it was his first year. Him and Ja came in together. All these guys came in together. And, you know, because of his inexperience, you know, he he came in, got some early success, got full of himself, head got big, and he kind of made some moves that weren't the smartest moves coming in. I could, I'm so good at this drafting thing. Um, I'll just double down and go get I'll go get the radio. I'll go get uh David Roddy David Right. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you know, those type of things. Yeah, those are things that I'm I'm pretty confident that Kleinman, you know, can fix this time around. Being, you know, been been there, done that. And I think we saw some of that last year. Last season, there were a lot of subtle things that he did. For one, he, if you remember the draft that we got Zaire, they moved from from I think 19 up to 10, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01The Grizzlies were trying to move up again. You remember that? They were trying to get up into, you know, the uh the Franz Faulkner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the kid's name for Chicago?
SPEAKER_00Um Giddy. Yeah, and Josh Giddy.
SPEAKER_01They were trying to get in that range, right? To get one of those guys. They weren't able to give up enough or weren't willing enough to give up that much, right? And you heard stories about they tried to get a Denny Avia and they didn't want to give up what Portland wanted and all these type of things. And people ask, do you feel like you gave up too much to get Cedric Howard? And he said, My biggest fear is no longer giving up too much, but did did I give up is if not giving up enough is a fear I have now. And you saw he went out, he he gave a first round pick to go get his guy. He wanted Cedric Howard and he gave up whatever it took to go get him, right? A couple years ago with Zach Edy, he didn't pull the trigger to go get Clingen.
Combine Takeaways That Change Minds
SPEAKER_01Probably Clinton because I think that Edie's gonna be a better player than Clingen. But also, like you Saw him go get a Ty Jerome in free agency, right? Who is a veteran guard who could come in. And whether you're rebuilding or not, he's a guy that could fit in, be a steadying guard on this team, whether he's starting or coming off the bench. Imagine bringing in a young point guard to this team, and then you've got a Ty Jerome here who's happy coming off the bench, starting whatever you want to do. And then you go out and you get a Taj Gibson, who's the team dad who you play. I'm hoping he keeps him around, you know, going forward or whatever. I think that those are moves that you're seeing that he's he's moving a little different as far as how those things go. Then you talk about, like I said, leaders is the issue, right? You identify John Moran as the best player and leader of this team. He clearly was not equipped to do that. He clearly was not equipped to be the actual leader of this team. Those type of, those type of things. There's there's so many mistakes that Ja made that, you know, he just wasn't cut out for it, man. Like there's certain, like I hear people say, you know, Ja's a star. I heard a guy today say Ja's a megastar. I said, brother, I hate to tell you this, man, but there's just certain things the superstars do. There's certain things that megastars do, man. That Ja just just has not done. And it's it's easy to call a guy a star because he's he's marketable, he sells shoes, and kids want to be like him, and he's got an international following. But man, so did David Beckham, bro. So did Reggie Bush. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Like those things.
SPEAKER_01Like you have to actually be a star on the court.
SPEAKER_00So did Yuki Kalamara, okay? Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01You gotta be a star on the court, man. Stars play a lot of games, you know what I mean? They sacrifice, they they get an injury in one series, and and they're able to wheel their team from the bench to get to the next series, and they're they're back super early, like Anthony Elwitz did. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Man, that dude.
SPEAKER_01Like, you know what I mean? Guys, stars do star stuff, man. You know what I mean? Like, stars work on their game. You know what I mean? SG Gay came into the league as one player. Anthony Elvis came into the league as one player. These guys have taken their game to a whole nother level since then, man. Stars do, stars do what stars do, man. Like it's it's not just a label. You know what I mean? It has to be a lifestyle, bro. And and Ja just wasn't cut out for that, man. And and that was that was, you know, that goes back to the front office leadership too. Fawksley identifying that, not keeping guys around him when he was young.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_01Help him with that, man. You know what I mean? But now that he's a now that he's damn near pushing on 30, you know, you can we can't get Ja a mentor now, man. He's he's almost 30. You know what I mean? He's got he's got easy, he's gotta do it himself, man. But yeah, that's that's what I think failed. Just the word leadership. No matter who you're talking about, this leadership.
SPEAKER_00It's funny that that you you bring up him you know as a rookie, because like for years now, and like I get it, like it was back in 2019, but I'm I'm still thinking that they shouldn't have traded Winslow. I'm sorry, not uh not him. Jay Crowder, right? Crowder. Like, like, like they they loved that guy. He was the only adult in the room, and all I heard was, yeah, but but he's not he's not on their timeline. I'm like, whose timeline? Like, you know, he's he he's 28 and they have it like you can't all be 23. You just you just can't, man. You know, because somebody has to teach them how to watch film and and actually go to practice and listen and practice and do and and they just didn't, you know, have that. And then, you know, they just began to run the like asylum, you know, and stuff. And then, you know, and it just never got better. And I don't know, it's just hopefully with with coward, like I know that's not gonna be an issue. That that dude as a rookie is grabbing the vets and like pulling him over and talking, like, like he's gonna be our like uh like the grizzlies version of like a Derek Jeter. Like, you know, he I just I I feel that like his as him as this like Grizzly's legacy guy. Yeah, and then you know, if if if the guy, I mean, I just this pick makes it so so close. So let's just kind of like you know, like, you know, uh there because I know that you don't have a lot of time here. So let's I guess let's just start with you know, Cameron Boozer, right? You talk a little bit and then I'll play like a little catch-up.
SPEAKER_01Boozer, I think he's a great prospect, man. I would absolutely love for us to grab him. I I've had to do my homework on him even since uh since uh uh uh eat the potatoes big, they can pop a little bit, he can knock down some shots, create a little offense a little bit, kind of a little bit. But I start watching a guy myself, man, and just watching what other people that I respect their opinion or saying, like you see now, he's a guy, man, that can create out the dribble, and not just in the half court. Uh he's a guy that can you know grab the rebound, bring the ball out court, get things going. And I like that about his game. And then I went and said, I said, okay, so the way that people describe him, like you're you're describing kind of like a Palo Bancaro, right? So I said, well, let me go back and look at Palo Banquero in college. And I started watching, yeah, like they used, he kind of, you would have thought he was just that kind of big too, that he was just kind of like a guy who, you know, kind of had a limited game offensively. You see Paolo now, he's got a lot more in his bag than he had to do. I don't think he learned that in the NBA. I think that was all part of his bag. A lot of times these guys, when they're in college, their coaches do not let them unlock their total games, right? As you see in the clips, he's he does a lot more things than people are willing to give him credit for. And then I wouldn't look at some Tobias Harris film, right? When he was in Okay, yeah. He was another guy that was used as a big in college when he got to the NBA. He drew him down a lot. You know, he was another guy who was getting transition. And also, if you think about Cam Boozer, if you go watch his high school film, he's a little smaller than he is. He did a lot of ball handling in college, right? I think he can get back down to that. I think he can feel for a lot of people like things in the power four. Like, there are a lot of you know for the NBA right now, right? A lot of things are playing with all the game. Even in the NBA.
Memphis Trade Up Plan And Leadership
SPEAKER_01He's not a primary or secondary ball.
SPEAKER_02You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? You know what I'm trying to say, bro.
SPEAKER_00Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01I think the whole thing is overrated. Like a lot of guys who are really good in this league aren't guys who are, you know, high-level athletes. Like SGA is not a high-level athlete. Yoke is not a high level athlete at all. Luca's not a high-level athlete, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm a fan of his game. I really love to see him there.
SPEAKER_00I think that people get confused with athleticism, and they think that being bouncy is what being like athletic is, and that's not really, you know, what I mean, like, there's a lot of guys that can just like you know, hop in the air like in like five feet and toss it down. But it's like you're wanting guys that are like functionally like like athletics. So guys that are able to like, you know, move, stop, go, pop off screens, you know, like take hits and and then and then have like high endurance and do things. So like great, like uh, like their their ability to process with their body and their mind, you know, like and is like really like you know high, high tension, like points. So with Cameron, like you know, he averaged over 22 a game, over 10 rebounds, he averaged over four assists, he shot like 62% from the field, almost 40 from three. His true shooting was like 60 uh six. He's he's 250, 6'9, his wingspan's over seven foot one. Like, I think people don't realize that he ran a lot of the actions for Duke. So, you know, he was on the ball like a good margin. Now, he's not some crazy like you know, ball handler like you know, Braun or somebody, but he's got really quick feet. So he like his like jab step, you know, is is super fast and he's able to get around people really, really fast. He has this like drop drop back, you know, pause and like a spin move. He he's actually like you know, he's good with both hands, you know, on the right and the left. You know, a few of his issues because like you know, there's no perfect process of like in a person or whatever, he's not good at you know, rim protection, right? So, you know, we I think people started to see that when he was having to play basically every role in March because his center and his point guard were out. But you know, so he's he's not gonna be the guy that is gonna stop everything, right? So he's he's a better, like you know, weak side guy. Now he can stay with power forwards and small forwards and stuff, but you know, if you have Zach Edy, then all of a sudden, you know, he's by himself always, and and now he's just gonna like you blow up by everybody. So, you know, he he has some some problems, and and I think his drills showed that he's not as not athletic as people for whatever reason assumed, you know.
SPEAKER_01I was like, okay, this dude is not no not what I thought. Like he's he's a lot more nimble and quick footed than people want to give him credit for. Same thing with Zach Edy last year, man. Yeah, my God, yeah. He's gonna be lurch, he's not dead at all. He's not Frankenstein, bro. Like he's that guy's a lot more athletic than we want to give him credit for.
SPEAKER_00It's so funny because everybody's talking about how like athletic, you know, Mara looks. Like, oh my god, Mara. And it's like Zach Edy posted better numbers than him, like all around. And it's like, for whatever reason, people like dogged on him, but people love Mara. It just it's it, I think people just didn't like him because he had won so much, you know, at that point. And so it was just better than that.
SPEAKER_01They were determined to make the narrative work. They wanted the narrative. Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_00So let's move on to the person that might be actually sliding to us, and that is Darren Peterson. He is like, people, I think I don't know. I I feel like this past year, there's a stain on him because he didn't play as much as people thought, or something. You know, people, you know, like because he wasn't like, you know, as flashy as like AJ and you know, just you know, let's this now, right? But for a while there, he was the top guy in this class. I think his biggest issue was he chose Kansas. You know, their their team overall wasn't very good. You know, so it kind of reminds me of if you go to the park and you're the guy that let's just say is like you know really good out of like all your friends, but your friends only play like once a month, and you're playing dudes that like are in like high school, you know, and stuff, and you're so you're trying to do everything and and your guys can't hit shots, can't get rebounds, can't like you bring the ball up, you're like, oh my god. Like, so I think he got worn down because he was literally having to do so much. His his assist numbers look bad, but they're actually if you I've watched maybe four or five games, you know, he makes a lot of really great reads. His teammates just don't, you know, hit shots or they don't cut correctly. You know, he'll he'll make really awesome cuts towards a basket on the ball, and his man just doesn't get out of his way. And so, you know, he gets locked up. I think once he gets to the NBA, he's gonna just all of a sudden people would be like, oh man, like Peterson's actually really good. It's like if that guy falls to the Grizzlies, man, dude, it's it's who I mean, like, you know, because to me, he's like like maybe a better version of like Ray Allen. Like, I just I think he's gonna be just awesome all around. And him and Coward would just be stupid to go.
SPEAKER_01I'm just gonna say Anthony Ellis, bro. It's okay to say Anthony Ellis, but come on. Hey, bro, hey, hey man, hey, it's okay, bro. If you want to say Kobe Bryant, you want to say Kobe Bryant, bro. I'm not, I'm not mad at you, bro. I'm not, it's okay, bro. It's okay to dream, bro. It's okay.
SPEAKER_00The only reason I can't say Kobe is and honestly, like one of his biggest flaws to me is his personality. He he doesn't have one, you know. Like, you know, he's he's he's he's like he said that he's he's a loner, he's very like into just being by himself. And I'm like, I I kind of don't like that type of that type of like a personality, really, uh, especially as your lead guy. But you know, quite leonard's also like that. So, you know, if he's built the same, yeah, exactly, right? So if he's like yeah, so I you know, I Kobe's great. I mean, like, no, like, I mean, like if it like if this is like you know, Kobe is is is coward, and then like you know, he's ant, then I mean, oh dude, it's over. Like come on now.
SPEAKER_01I mean he's really good though, man. Like you you mean like I mean like insane shot making. Like there's not a shot, there's not a shot he can't make, there's not a play he can't make. Like the skill in the mid-range, oh man, oh my god, bro. I would lose I would lose it, bro. And Memphis has never had we've never had the Ja brought instant excitement. Ja was an insane level athlete, insane playmaker,
Boozer Breakdown And Modern Athleticism
SPEAKER_01pass maker. Yeah, Ja was Ja's finish, insane finish, all those things. But bro, a guard with size that can make shots like him, yeah, like can dribble pass and shoot, defend. Oh my god, lose it, bro. I would lose it, bro. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you you that's the guy, those are the guys in the playoffs, man. You give the ball to and just hey, go go be magical, bro. And they do it. Like that's that's what the NBA is, man. Oh my God. I would I oh man, look.
SPEAKER_00You know, it's crazy. It's not a playoff, bro.
SPEAKER_01I'm down for it, bro. Trust me, man.
SPEAKER_00Not only like is he good on offense, he's a really good player on the other end of the ball as well, right? You know, so he is, man, like he's fully able to guard one, two, and three. He is he's 6'6 in shoes, his wingspan's almost 6'10, he's over 200 pounds already. Like, you know, he is the way that he navigates screens is so, so smart. Like, you know, he will just avoid him. He uses all of his length around people. Man, dude, he he processes on both ends so so well. I think him and Coward would just elevate each other to be nuts.
SPEAKER_01The nasty backcourt, bro. The nastiest backcourt, man. And they they like you said, they would push each other, they would push each other so much in practice. And the thing is, man, this is with him saying, bro, I had cramps make me feel like I was, I thought I was dying. Yep. Like I was going probably 70% speed. And you watch old film of him in high school, that dude looks absolutely ridiculous, bro. And like you said, he's had he had the stuff with the they found insane levels of creatine way in his blood system, way after he stopped using creatine, which shows you how much he was using. That dude is legit, man. If if if I want those two teams at the top to get goofy, like, dude, I would love Boozer here, but if y'all get goofy, do whatever y'all need to do. Because if that dude followed in Memphis, bro, I'm going to lose my mind for sure.
SPEAKER_00So, like, also, you know, he his so his like rate for steel is right under like a 3%, which is awesome. His uh percentage is over 2% for a guard, which is awesome. His hit his box plus minus is over a 12, which is as a freshman, is stupid. So, like, you know, boozer almost broke it at like a 17.8. Jaxel, who who was great all year, he's a 15, which is also historic. Like, Darren at a at a 12 is just is insane, man. Like, you know, just it would be it would be great. So let's move on to the other guy that for whatever reason people are beginning to like mock us over Boozer, and that is Caleb Wilson.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, I absolutely get it, man. Super athletic, young guy, wiry, has a nose for defense, and just finishes well, man. Like he was on he was on pace that just kind of destroys some some dunking records, you know, in college or whatever. And I hear people say, well, all he does is dunk. If I got a guy, if all you do is dunk, bro, that's a pretty easy, that's a highly efficient way of scoring, man. Like, if that's what you do, man. Like, I love it. I love, I love his game. He's got a tenacity about himself, he's got an edge about himself. He he you know, he he'll remind you that I played Cam Booz in them and I beat them, and I played against him. You know what I mean? He'll say those things, he'll let it be known that he's he had good games against other guys. He's and he wants to be a winner, he wants to be the best. He reminds me so much of my one of my favorite players of all time, Kevin Garnett, that uh that alone has me hype for him. I was a little surprised to hear that he was the same height as Boozer. I wasn't ready for that at all. I wouldn't I was totally expecting him to be tall than Boozer was.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think he's a four. If he could develop more of a four-three type game and guard wings and kind of have get some ball handling skills by himself too, I think he'd be a much better player. Like I said, man, if we walk out, I'm on the boozer train and Peterson trade if something comes down with Peterson. But yeah, man, if the Grizzlies decide, hey, we're gonna go uh for the high upside guy who could be an absolute machine in this league for years to come, I wouldn't be upset about that either. I'd be running down the street excited about the lead. I'd be three for three and running down the street excited.
SPEAKER_00I think I think people might be shocked to hear this, but like I've got AJ four, and like, you know, that's and like I get it. Look, like I'm like a nerd guy, and like I dive into everything, but that there's a lot of stuff that are holes in like AJ's games that I don't know if they'll translate correctly. Caleb, man, like so it's it's it's funny that you said a four-three. A lot of people try to say like four five. It's like he's not gonna be a five. He's just he just he's not. But I his his on-the-ball ability is really good. So so like you, him and Cameron will routinely bring the ball up. I will say I think Caleb is better at being able to maybe to you know, ball handle like in traffic. He has, you know, his his skill is a little bit lower, it's tighter. Boozers is is really effective at that straight line drive, but he won't be able to like put it on the floor like and make like you know five or six moves or anything. But Wilson, his his assist rate is also really good. It's right under like a 20, you know, and whenever he was the main guy on the on the court and his usage went up, his assist rate went to like a 25, which is like good point guard levels, and then also his his turnover rate is crazy low. So he's a super, super smart guy. I was a little disappointed that his wingspan's not better. The main issue you know people like to say is like, you know, he doesn't shoot threes, and that's true, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Neither the job is bro. Neither the jobs, like, yeah. I don't I hate that. I hate when people try that. Uh he's a he's gonna be a perimeter guy, he's gonna be an outside end guy. He's gonna find a way to score. I don't I don't care if he shoots threes and that, man.
SPEAKER_00Like, well, so like you know, he he he's super effective in that like mid-range as well. So so I like that, plus his his his above average ability at the free throw line, that stuff kind of tracks well for him to at least get to like a 33er or so, like in a percentage where it's usable, where guys can't just leave him out there. He's also, man, like his ability to get the rim is is also like super crazy. Like, I think he he's one of the top, you know, in this class. He draws so many fouls, he's so dangerous there, you know. And then you know, folks talk about like all he does is dunk, like he was almost at 50% on layups in the half court as well. So I don't know. I feel like once people start to see something, they kind of just like you know, say that only his defense, he's more theoretical at this point. He does have a lot of like really it's almost you know, people like are posting that that that drill of Cameron, like and Caleb both like running together and stuff. And there's and they're talking about how how Caleb's already like, you know, I'm sorry, that uh you Cameron's the way he runs and moves is more focused, and that Caleb was just like you know, pure like energy. Once he learned the same things that Cameron knows, like he's gonna be that much better, right? So, you know, he's he's currently just going off a pure fire. So once somebody can like take that fire and mold it into something, that dude is gonna be Pascal Siakam good. So I mean, like, you know, I'm like I'm totally down with him as well. You know, it's cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure, man. For sure. Man, he's good, bro. Oh, yeah. Man, good guy. But it is such a when I talked to Michael Cole about this, man. The Grizzlies spots I know this is a national podcast, but I'll speak for mine. But you got the Grizzlies at three, they got three, 16,
Peterson Vs Wilson And Draft Fit
SPEAKER_0132. Literally, the entire draft is at their disposal. Like if there's any guy in the league they want to have in outside of probably the banster, they can have that guy come to their gym. If they want to have a sit-down conversation, interview with anybody one through 30, I mean two through 30, they can have it. There is such an amazing place, and it just feels good to be in that top four, man, to be at three specifically. Yeah, for sure. Clearly, man, you you you are not gonna come out with a bad player.
SPEAKER_00Man, uh, so like I kind of feel like I need to defend myself before your like Saniacs, you know, come after me or something. So I I I do like AJ Dansa. I'm sorry, my bad, my bad. I mean, I mean I mean AJ's obviously he's he's got great size, he's got crazy hops, he's long, you know, he he gets to his spots. He just he's not a great playmaker right now at the level, and and and his usage is so high for him to do what he does well, which is like just go out like and ball out and score. I think he's gonna have issues finding his role early because you know he's not gonna be able to like hold the ball, you know, like over like 30% of the time. And then he didn't take enough threes, right? So like you know, he like his his rate at shooting threes is kind of lower. So if he can get to where he feels more comfortable doing like, you know, just like really like fast, you know, like off the triple threes, man, like he can be fucking awesome. But right now, I think that that's if that stuff stays, it makes it really hard for him to like grow to that you know, 30 point per game guy or whatever. So I know that you've you've really looked at the top four guys. I'm gonna throw like a few names at you at the 16 era that I think could be kind of cool. So I like I've been.
SPEAKER_01You know it's a good chance I ain't gonna know who these dudes are. But let's get what I got. What's mine is yours.
SPEAKER_00All right. So the guy that I've been in love with sit for like four months now is Morez Johnson out of Michigan, six foot nine, his wingspans at seven foot four, he's 250 pounds, he's 19 years old. Dude can guard one through five. He is he scored at the rim at like a 70-something you know percent clip. He he's crazy effective. He he's a bully, he's a straight bully in the paint. Like, you know, they that they routinely have to have two guys on him because he just punches through people. You know, if you if you watch him play, he'll get pushed in the back, held, he never complains, he just pushes right back. Uh, you know, he is no, no. So so he started. The the issue is that all three of them kind of got a little cannibalized because they're all so good, right? So it reminds me of like Horfer, Noah, and like Brewer, right? Because like all those guys, you know, for Florida were all great. All of them got picked, I think, top 10. And I think all these guys also have a chance at that, but all their stats are just not crazy because each of them, you know, kind of like, you know, did like a little bit of everything. His his offensive rebound rate is over like a 14%, which is awesome. You know, just in general, he man, dude, he's just he's got great touch. His only issues are he's not a good playmaker, which you don't really need him to be. And he doesn't really like he shoots threes at a a good percentage. He just doesn't take them. And a lot of his numbers in terms of scoring was very assist heavy. So he doesn't show a lot of like individual. Shot creation, but dude, he could come in right now at 16, start from Memphis, and he would be like, you would say he's like a tenure starter. Like, you know, like he just and that plus he's gonna punch everybody in the head. So Eric Grizzly's fan, you know, is gonna love him, you know. So he he's very much that like Zach Randolph type where he just out rebounds everybody, out muscles everybody, dunks on their heads. Well, I'm sorry, not dunks, but because you know Zach Zach didn't dunk on people, but like, you know, but you know, he and then the combine he he is top five in almost everything. So I think his stocks going from that mid-20 range to that 13-12 range, but he's definitely somebody that you need to be paying attention to.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, somebody said he's like uh super Isaiah Stewart. I think that's what somebody was saying. I think this is who they were talking about. But yeah.
SPEAKER_00The next guy that I like now is uh Cameron Carr. He's a guard out of Bagler. He hit the biggest concern was he was listed at 160 pounds in college. So people were like, so like all of his stats look good and everything else, but it was like, dude, like you know, at 160, like you know, this guy's gonna get killed. But at the combine, he came out at 187 pounds. So that is like a huge, huge difference. This guy shoots the hell out of the ball. He can switch on defense, he has a crazy block rate for a guard, he's tough. He man, he's just he he's gonna go probably late, late lottery now at this point, but he is definitely a guy that I could see him and coward just lighting it up out there on light because like he does what Wells does, except better. Like, you know, he I think his vert was like a 42 or something. His his like vert standing is better, it like his reach is like six six nine or six ten. Like he's gonna be like a real, real, like you know, awesome player for somebody. I think he's definitely worth noting.
SPEAKER_01You got my attention.
SPEAKER_00And the last guy that I want to talk about, I don't know if I have any specific things in terms of like a video, but another guy that I think at 32 who is pretty good is uh Zuby Edgefor. He is a little bit older, but he's like a 6'7, 6'8, you know, forward. He did it all for them. Like, so he he played on the ball, off the ball. He might be the best defender in this entire class. He like he's a big man that can guard every point guard. You know, he I think his reach was the longest in the class. I think he's got like I think he's six seven and his reaches like seven six or seven, something like that. It's stupid. He also hits threes, he he passes the hell of the ball. He just doesn't defensively rebound as well. And that could just be because you know he's he's everywhere on the floor, almost like Jerem was, where he's not always like at the rim, you know, at certain points.
SPEAKER_01So I don't want to hear that no more.
SPEAKER_00I know, yeah, yeah, hey.
SPEAKER_01That is yeah, we rolled that excuse for too long. No, I don't want to hear that. No, uh that is the Jackson problem now. I need dudes who rebound because they rebound.
SPEAKER_00I don't yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01I want to be able to say that dude don't rebound because he just can't rebound. Like, I don't know. No, no, so I'm not yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_00He he rebounds well. It's just if he's gonna be your primary center, it's just not as good as you would hope. I mean, like, you know, he I think like his his overall percentage is like an 18 or something. But but like, you know, at that range, you're hoping for a guy that's like boozer who's got like a like a 23% or something, right? So it's just not it's just not elite, but like, you know, he's I got you very very tough, also.
SPEAKER_02I'm triggered, man.
SPEAKER_00I'm trying to
Targets At 16 And 32
SPEAKER_00applaud that.
SPEAKER_01I applaud it.
SPEAKER_00I've been making that excuse also for like for like a very a very long time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh zill stop, man. You know, he's just he's gotta clean up the uh the tiki tacking.
SPEAKER_00And then a guy that I I think you would really like, he's out of Texas. His name is Dalen Swain. He is like a six foot five, six foot six, you know, wing. He's awesome on the ball. Like he, in terms of like offensive like ISO creation, he might be the best player in the entire draft. He gets to his spots so damn well. The issue is he turns it over a lot. So so you know, at Texas, he was kind of like the only really like NBA level player, so he was doing a lot there. And his defense, it's kind of like Caleb's, where he has every tool, he just hasn't figured out exactly how to do it yet. But him and Coward would be huge on the wings. I mean, like you're talking like those guys could switch one to four, you know. So I mean, like, there's just so much talent there. And then Alan Graves, right? He's another guy that is like six foot ten, power forward. He does everything. You know, he's kind of like the best version of Kyle Anderson. So if Kyle Anderson could like hit threes, right? You know, so I think he's a guy like a Jalen Williams or a coward that's gonna fly up boards and go around like 12 or 13. But all of those guys, I think, would be awesome in Memphis and they would be loved.
SPEAKER_01Sign me up, man. Sign me up for it.
SPEAKER_00All right, man. So I want to thank you again for coming on. I'm sorry that we held you a little late there.
SPEAKER_01You're good.
SPEAKER_00So like I know that you you've always got like, you know, a thousand things going on in in Memphis. Like, is there anything of like really big nut going on? Or like is it just you know your like other thousand things?
SPEAKER_01Oh, well, yeah, we got something big coming up. Uh, me and my wife have a nonprofit organization called Memphis Magic Volleyball Institute. It's an organization set up to uh provide services and resources for inner city girls and the sport of volleyball. A lot of our girls are unreached, under, under-resourced, all those type of things. So we're trying to create ways to close some of those gaps between the haves and the have nots in the sport of volleyball. We've got an exciting summer coming ahead where we have basically pretty much a clinic every every Monday
Memphis Magic Volleyball And Closing
SPEAKER_01during this summer with the uh partnership with the Memphis Park Commission. You can visit our website. I gotta update the website, but yeah, wait, give you till Monday, but check out MemphisMagicVBI.org and you can check out the stuff we got going on. Some exciting, exciting times uh for us with that, man, for sure.
SPEAKER_00Man, just like quickly, like I think that that's that's very cool. I don't think that people that don't have kids realize how privatized all that stuff is becoming. It's it's an absolute joke. Man, it it's it's crazy how at one point like sports were this like equalizer amongst like race and everything and and being poor. I mean, like if you were good at something, like you just got more opportunities. Now you have to have money. And it just I just hate how all this is going. It's absolutely stupid. Yeah, so you know, like hopefully we can maybe you know talk again around draft time or something, because like you know, it's only gonna get more exciting from here. Super man, I'm just I'm so pumped that that they got number three.
SPEAKER_01Damn, I mean it's up from here, bro. It's up from here, man. Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_00So, like it like last three years, I've been buying every rookie's jersey. So, like now, like I'm gonna have like another three to buy. So I'm just I'm super pumped, man.
SPEAKER_02All right, let's get it, man. Let's get it.
SPEAKER_00All right, guys. Next week, be on the lookout. I'm I'm gonna be putting on my general manager hat. I'm gonna be doing basically every team breakdown from one through four. Now but the Grizzlies, awesome. So I'm be going through all of their options in the roster, all of their salary, uh, talking about who they should draft. So be on the lookout for that. But as always, remember to watch more basketball. I've been doing this for 10 years.
SPEAKER_03This is he's two years away from being two years away, and then we'll see.