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SPEAKER_03: Revelation 16 is going to record the final outpouring of God's wrath upon a rebellious world through these seven bold judgments.
SPEAKER_03: If we remember, the seals introduced the judgments, the trumpets would intensify judgments, and now the balls are bringing a completion in this.
SPEAKER_03: These judgments occur near the end of the tribulation, and part of their completion purpose is to prepare the way for Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_03: This chapter is going to demonstrate both holiness of God and the hardness of sinful humanity.
SPEAKER_03: Despite overwhelming evidence of God's power, many still refuse to repent, and instead they continue to blaspheme Him.
SPEAKER_03: God's an overall theme of this chapter is God's final judgments reveal both his perfect justice and humanity's persistent rebellion.
SPEAKER_03: And though God's wrath is poured out upon the earth, many will continue rejecting him, proving that only God's grace can transform the human heart.
SPEAKER_03: Now, again, this is going to fall in one of those categories.
SPEAKER_03: When you get to reading this stuff, we would sit here and say, how can anyone continue to rebel or deny or just totally reject God?
SPEAKER_03: And the answer is, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: Why does anyone, even at this point in life, without judgments or wraths being poured out right now, how does anyone reject God?
SPEAKER_03: I was thinking last night, there's a comedian, and I'm not saying to go watch this guy because I know he can get foul language at times, but he did have a little funny bit.
SPEAKER_03: Um, saying he's Pete Holmes, and he talks about atheists and how ridiculous it is to be an atheist.
SPEAKER_03: And his whole spill is, you believe that there's nothing.
SPEAKER_03: And he goes, Do you know what comes from nothing?
SPEAKER_03: Nothing.
SPEAKER_03: There has to be something.
SPEAKER_03: And someone, and it is one of the funniest things ever.
SPEAKER_03: And it's actually that little probably three-minute bit, it's probably clean, about one of the few things that's clean.
SPEAKER_03: So if you catch that clip, you know, but it is funny.
SPEAKER_03: You sit and you think of somebody like that and go, how do you believe that?
SPEAKER_03: And honestly, in my opinion, it takes more faith to be an atheist in that side of it.
SPEAKER_03: But how does anybody, with the wickedness that we see in the world, or pain or suffering, or hardships, or trials, how does anyone continue to rebel God outside of having a reprobate mind?
SPEAKER_03: Now, um, you know, Romans 1 gives us understanding that you can have uh get to a point to where God will turn you over to a reprobate mind.
SPEAKER_03: And when you're turned over to a reprobate mind, repentance is off the table.
SPEAKER_03: I mean, your mind is forever locked in that, and that's a dangerous place to be.
SPEAKER_03: I don't think it's as simply a thing to which we could say, oh, they're all reprobates.
SPEAKER_03: I don't know that it's that simple.
SPEAKER_03: Um, because I think that there's still the opportunity because we know we've seen the opportunity for people to become martyrs, so we know that people somewhere along the way receive Christ.
SPEAKER_03: And the fact that to believe that God would just turn over everybody to a reprobate before judgment or the wrath is poured out, that doesn't have the heart of the Father.
SPEAKER_03: He's always had a plan of redemption and hope and restoration and renewal.
SPEAKER_03: That's always been the heart, and I don't think we ever need to lose sight of that.
SPEAKER_03: So, verse one.
SPEAKER_03: And I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, Go and pour out the seven bowls of the wrath of God into the earth.
SPEAKER_03: So the man come, the command comes directly from the temple.
SPEAKER_03: Now, in Revelation 15 and 8, it declared that no one could enter the temple because it was filled with God's glory.
SPEAKER_03: So we imagine that at this point, that command has got to be coming from God.
SPEAKER_03: Because if we remember, no one was allowed in.
SPEAKER_03: The glory filled the temple, and now we're getting this verse where there's a command that comes from the temple.
SPEAKER_03: So we can more than likely say that this is God.
SPEAKER_03: Can we say it 100%?
SPEAKER_03: Well, no, because it doesn't say this is God Himself.
SPEAKER_03: Um, but we can kind of connect the dots here.
SPEAKER_03: These judgments, the interesting thing about these, if you kind of remember back to some of the others, is these judgments are not initiated by angels.
SPEAKER_03: They're initiated from the temple.
SPEAKER_03: We could say initiated by God.
SPEAKER_03: Now, these bold judgments correspond with that third woe that was introduced earlier in Revelation.
SPEAKER_03: The seals prepared the way, the trumpets intensify the warnings, and now the bowls is bringing this wrath.
SPEAKER_03: The bold judgments strongly are going to represent the plagues of Egypt.
SPEAKER_03: For example, we're going to see boils, blood, darkness, and there's going to be these similarities.
SPEAKER_03: And again, this should not be surprising to us.
SPEAKER_03: We've seen many similarities going back to the days of Egypt throughout the book of Revelation.
SPEAKER_03: Just as God judged Egypt while delivering Israel, he's now going to judge a rebellious world while preserving his people.
SPEAKER_03: So the God who judged Egypt is the same God who's going to judge the world.
SPEAKER_03: We have to remember God's final judgments proceed directly from his authority and his holiness.
SPEAKER_03: Verse 2.
SPEAKER_03: And the first angel went and poured out his bowl into the earth, and it became a loathsome and a malignant sore upon the men who had the mark of the beast and who worshipped his image.
SPEAKER_03: Now, there is a sheet.
SPEAKER_03: If you have it or you don't have it now, there's a hook there, you know, I gave you a sheet that had the seals, the trumpets.
SPEAKER_03: You also have one with all the bowls as well.
SPEAKER_03: It's uh red, black, or no, I think it's black and white for y'all, sorry.
SPEAKER_03: But I have another one that we can go ahead and put on the screen, just leave for the rest of the class.
SPEAKER_03: Because this is going to give you a breakdown of the seven bowls.
SPEAKER_03: So the number one bowl coming out, those with the mark of the beast who worship its image breaks out in sores, particularly what's known as boils.
SPEAKER_03: Now, in thinking about that, is that a mild case?
SPEAKER_03: More than likely not.
SPEAKER_03: You're going to be ate up in massive sores.
SPEAKER_03: And who is going to have these?
SPEAKER_03: Those that accepted the mark, right?
SPEAKER_03: And those who worship the image.
SPEAKER_03: Now, I want to say something here.
SPEAKER_03: This is more than likely the same category here.
SPEAKER_03: Those that accept the mark are also going to be those who worship the beast.
SPEAKER_03: However, there is kind of something you do have to take in consideration.
SPEAKER_03: There could be a people, and I don't know how this would be possible, but just you kind of have to hypothetically think some things through.
SPEAKER_03: There could be some people that never took the mark and yet they worship the beast.
SPEAKER_03: Now, why you would worship the beast and not take the mark, I don't know, or the image.
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: More than likely, if you took the mark, you're going to worship the image.
SPEAKER_03: But I don't ever want to discredit the fact because this is an and.
SPEAKER_03: And the reason I bring that up is it doesn't simply say those who took the mark.
SPEAKER_03: Because if it said those that took the mark, then that would be the only category of those that received the bowls.
SPEAKER_03: But it says those that took the mark and worship the image.
SPEAKER_03: So it does give you a little bit of a possibility that there could be someone.
SPEAKER_03: My mind just can't fathom how.
SPEAKER_03: Listen, there are some things that are without a doubt predestined.
SPEAKER_03: It was predestined that Jesus was going to be crucified and he was going to raise from the dead.
SPEAKER_03: That was predestined.
SPEAKER_03: There's a predestined date that the tribulation period will start, Daniel 70th week.
SPEAKER_03: These things are going to occur, and Jesus is definitely going to come back.
SPEAKER_03: He's going to put his foot on the Mount of Olives.
SPEAKER_03: He's going to walk down, bust open the eastern gate.
SPEAKER_03: All that is predestined.
SPEAKER_03: But when you read this, this does not further validate the idea that God, when you're born, God goes, okay, you go to hell, you go to heaven.
SPEAKER_03: That's not how that works.
SPEAKER_03: And this doesn't validate that at all.
SPEAKER_03: Number one reason it doesn't validate it is you get your prize for the mark of the beast is free boils.
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's how you got it.
SPEAKER_03: It's not because God randomly assigned it.
SPEAKER_03: Verse 3.
SPEAKER_03: And the second angel poured out his bowl into the sea, and it became blood like that of a dead man, and every living thing in the sea died.
SPEAKER_03: Everything this time is going to die.
SPEAKER_03: If we remember earlier, when we got into the seals and we got into the blood turning, the sea turning blood, and the rivers turning blood, we knew that at that time a third of the things.
SPEAKER_03: But now it's going to kill everything in the ocean.
SPEAKER_03: Everything.
SPEAKER_03: Every sea creature that you could possibly imagine is going to be dead.
SPEAKER_03: Which you can imagine how that smells going to be when those fish and giant whales.
SPEAKER_03: Now, I don't know why this is a debate, but so many people love to argue this that, oh, it's not going to be actual blood.
SPEAKER_03: The sea's going to have some kind of algae effect into it, and it's going to turn it red and all this.
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: You know, it can that happen?
SPEAKER_03: Yes, that can happen.
SPEAKER_03: Matter of fact, it does happen.
SPEAKER_03: It happens in a lot of countries, and it has happened for centuries.
SPEAKER_03: You can have a type of infestation that can hit a waterway, and it actually turns the water like a blood red, and it kills wildlife.
SPEAKER_03: So, yes, that can happen.
SPEAKER_03: Is this the case?
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: Could it actually be blood?
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_03: It could be blood the same way.
SPEAKER_03: If you put blood, if you turn the sea into blood, ain't no wildlife gonna swim and make it through that either.
SPEAKER_03: So either way, it's not worth trying to get into a debate over what is what is it gonna be?
SPEAKER_03: Is it gonna be some kind of algae?
SPEAKER_03: Is it gonna be actual blood?
SPEAKER_03: You know what it's gonna be?
SPEAKER_03: Red and dead.
SPEAKER_03: That's what it's going to be.
SPEAKER_03: And you'd be surprised at the people I've had conversations with about this one thing, and they get hung up on it.
SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, of all the things to get bent out of shape over, like, God, but people are funny.
SPEAKER_03: So could again, it could be any of those things.
SPEAKER_03: Just know that it's gonna be corrupt, it's gonna be decaying, and it's gonna be a mess.
SPEAKER_03: You know, my idea is it gonna be some kind of algae-infested thing?
SPEAKER_03: Sure, that seems like the easiest thing, uh, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: I don't ever want to discredit something.
SPEAKER_03: Again, I never want to pigeonhole God into something.
SPEAKER_03: It could be, like I said, just what I know, red and dead.
SPEAKER_03: So, uh, verse 4.
SPEAKER_03: And the third angel poured out his bowl into the rivers and the springs of the water, and they became blood.
SPEAKER_03: Now, this one is a little more interesting to me.
SPEAKER_03: Because it's the sea that turns blood in the second one.
SPEAKER_03: But the third one is now rivers and springs.
SPEAKER_03: Where do rivers flow to to begin with?
SPEAKER_03: To the ocean, right?
SPEAKER_03: So it's interesting here because the sea is not going to infiltrate the land.
SPEAKER_03: But now we see that this is now going to infiltrate the sea from the land.
SPEAKER_03: But this happens afterwards.
SPEAKER_03: It seems like that would have been placed in the second one, as it would flow into the sea.
SPEAKER_03: So it doesn't, though.
SPEAKER_03: Now, here's the question: why would this be third and not second?
SPEAKER_03: I love that answer.
SPEAKER_03: Because he can.
SPEAKER_03: It's a great theological standpoint there.
SPEAKER_03: And it's my crutch every single time.
SPEAKER_03: You know, not to try to sound like a parent, but you just want to throw out because God said so.
SPEAKER_03: You know, that's just sometimes that's the only answer you can give.
SPEAKER_03: I think this is the thing that fascinates me the most.
SPEAKER_03: If you got boils, you're you're probably in a lot of pain, right?
SPEAKER_03: And interesting enough, one of the things that could potentially help boils is salt water.
SPEAKER_03: But now salt water is gonna become toxic.
SPEAKER_03: What's the most important thing to man?
SPEAKER_03: Water.
SPEAKER_03: So now the rivers, and it doesn't just say the rivers, it says the springs.
SPEAKER_03: So get this, out of the earth, this is gonna start coming through here.
SPEAKER_03: So the thing that you need the most to survive, you're not gonna have access to it.
SPEAKER_03: And so much for bottled water are my bougie water that everybody calls bougie, but you can buy it at Walmart.
SPEAKER_03: It's good water though.
SPEAKER_03: I mean, y'all are just jealous.
SPEAKER_03: That's good water.
SPEAKER_03: And it's clear.
SPEAKER_03: Here, the sea, the rivers, and the spring, every access of water is completed.
SPEAKER_03: Think about not only do we need it for drinking water, we need it for our crops.
SPEAKER_03: We need it for sanitation.
SPEAKER_03: Without any fresh water, how long do you think survival will be?
SPEAKER_03: Well, alone, I don't think it would be real long.
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you can go um I mean you can go 40 days without food and drink water and be for the most part pretty good.
SPEAKER_03: But if you're in extreme heat, I don't know that you can even get is it 10 days you can go without water in extreme heat?
SPEAKER_03: Is that three days?
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: You can tell I don't do the extreme heat without water.
SPEAKER_03: So I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: Three hours, yeah.
SPEAKER_03: That would be for real.
SPEAKER_03: So let's think about this for a second.
SPEAKER_03: Well, we know it's not God calling.
SPEAKER_03: It's always the pastor.
SPEAKER_03: Somebody's gonna have to take her phone away from her.
SPEAKER_03: All right, let's think about this just for a second.
SPEAKER_03: If the natural body can't last very long, and then mankind goes crazy, and they find out you got water, what's gonna happen?
SPEAKER_03: Rioting and all this, lawlessness and all this.
SPEAKER_03: All this, we're only on the third bowl.
SPEAKER_03: What is it truly a sign of?
SPEAKER_03: The return is imminent.
SPEAKER_03: Verse five through seven.
SPEAKER_03: And I heard the angel of the waters saying, Righteous art thou who art and who wast.
SPEAKER_03: O holy one, because thou dost judge these things, for they poured out the blood of the saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink.
SPEAKER_03: They deserve it.
SPEAKER_03: What a statement.
SPEAKER_03: Verse 7.
SPEAKER_03: And I heard the altar saying, Yes, O Lord God, the Almighty, true, and righteous are thy judgments.
SPEAKER_03: There's this these three verses are just like loaded.
SPEAKER_03: First of all, angel of what?
SPEAKER_03: Angel of waters.
SPEAKER_03: Now, I bring this up again because we talked about this before in the past, but this is fascinating.
SPEAKER_03: Remember, Satan can't ever create anything, he can only manipulate what God has already established.
SPEAKER_03: So if there's an angel of waters, could Satan have water spirits?
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean that's it for Americans that's so hard to wrap our mind around.
SPEAKER_03: But go to Thailand or go to Taiwan, and they're worshiping these things.
SPEAKER_03: Many other nations that are I'm not just picking on those.
SPEAKER_03: The Philippines has a lot.
SPEAKER_03: Um Philippines are kind of loaded with.
SPEAKER_03: That and stuff and everything.
SPEAKER_03: But anyway, the angel of the waters declares, you are righteous.
SPEAKER_03: For what reason?
SPEAKER_03: You poured out the blood.
SPEAKER_03: The blood of who?
SPEAKER_03: Saints and prophets.
SPEAKER_03: Now you've been given the blood to drink.
SPEAKER_03: And man, what a statement.
SPEAKER_03: They deserve it.
SPEAKER_03: Interesting enough, this punishment really kind of reflects the crime.
SPEAKER_03: Humanity has delighted in violence.
SPEAKER_03: For years, Christians have been martyred, and it may feel like it's slowed down some, but in a lot of foreign nations, it's not really slowed down that much.
SPEAKER_03: In America, obviously, it has.
SPEAKER_03: Well, at least in the United States, North America, too, potentially.
SPEAKER_03: But there's definitely some stuff happening in Central America, I would think.
SPEAKER_03: Just not big world reports and all that.
SPEAKER_03: But it's interesting.
SPEAKER_03: We're going to see this increase during the tribulation period.
SPEAKER_03: We're going to see the martyrs.
SPEAKER_03: We're going to see the violence ramp up.
SPEAKER_03: So this is not just about God's revenge or God being vindictive because people are doing this.
SPEAKER_03: This is about justice.
SPEAKER_03: Now, there's an interesting statement here.
SPEAKER_03: There is another voice.
SPEAKER_03: Where does the voice come from?
SPEAKER_03: The altar.
SPEAKER_03: And I heard the altar saying, Yes, O Lord God.
SPEAKER_03: Let me ask you a question.
SPEAKER_03: What is that?
SPEAKER_03: Are we talking about the furniture itself talking?
SPEAKER_03: Are we talking about angels at the altar?
SPEAKER_03: What are we talking about here?
SPEAKER_03: Martyrs under the altar?
SPEAKER_03: That's a good callback.
SPEAKER_03: Very good callback.
SPEAKER_03: Well, we know one thing.
SPEAKER_03: Let's go back all the way to Moses.
SPEAKER_03: Moses in the tabernacle is patterned after what?
SPEAKER_03: Heaven's tabernacle, right?
SPEAKER_03: Everything except the brazen altar and the wash basin.
SPEAKER_03: Those are earthly assignments.
SPEAKER_03: But everything else is a model that is in heaven.
SPEAKER_03: When we go into the first court, that first veil we go through, there's the table of showbread, the menorah, and then right there in the center is this altar of incense.
SPEAKER_03: And what is the altar of incense carrying?
SPEAKER_03: The prayers of the saints.
SPEAKER_03: Now, we remember this earlier in Revelation because this is specifically talked about.
SPEAKER_03: Remember the cistern?
SPEAKER_03: Remember them taking the prayers of the saints and the martyrs.
SPEAKER_03: So when this is saying here that this is the, I heard the altar saying, what he's actually saying is the artifact itself is not talking.
SPEAKER_03: He's saying he's hearing the voice of the saints and the martyrs that are agreeing with God's justice.
SPEAKER_03: It's another reminder that the prayers that we pray never cease.
SPEAKER_03: It's another reminder that the words that we declare never cease.
SPEAKER_03: It's also another reminder that how important our words are.
SPEAKER_03: They carry not only weight on this earth, they carry weight in eternity.
SPEAKER_03: Verse eight through nine.
SPEAKER_03: And the fourth angel poured out his bowl upon the sun, and it was given to it, scorch, given to it to scorch men with fire.
SPEAKER_03: And men were scorched with fierce heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has the power over these plagues, and they did not repent so as to give him glory.
SPEAKER_03: Now, couldn't I?
SPEAKER_03: This is the one I couldn't imagine.
SPEAKER_03: Verse the fourth bolt.
SPEAKER_03: Now this one just it this one's tough for me.
SPEAKER_03: We were in Texas a couple weeks ago, and one day it was 1, I can't remember if it was like 114 or something, 112, somewhere around in there.
SPEAKER_03: And I honestly thought I was gonna melt because sugar melts when it gets hot.
SPEAKER_03: And it you humidity is bad in general, but like Texas is like another another level it feels like in the dead of summer.
SPEAKER_03: You walk out of a house that's air conditioning, if you have glasses, it's rough.
SPEAKER_03: Because you walk out and it's like this wall hits you, and you can't see nothing because all of a sudden there's just a film of fog on your glasses.
SPEAKER_03: And it's just you're instantly sweating, and it's just miserable.
SPEAKER_03: So I just think about that and go, ooh, I don't want that.
SPEAKER_03: And we were in uh New Boston, Texas, and it was it was hot that day too.
SPEAKER_03: It was like, I think we were at 99, somewhere around in there, like at 4 o'clock.
SPEAKER_03: And I'll tell you one thing.
SPEAKER_03: Well, let me back up.
SPEAKER_03: We were in Arlington, and at 10.30 at night, it was 98 degrees at 10.30 at night.
SPEAKER_03: So when we were in New Boston, it was right like 4 o'clock on a Sunday evening, and it was like 99 degrees, and they go, What's the temperature back home where you live?
SPEAKER_03: And I pulled it up and it said 83.
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, Oh, this is where God lives.
SPEAKER_03: It's 83, and we're here licking the flames of hell.
SPEAKER_03: You know, but this one just really gets me so it I can't imagine this.
SPEAKER_03: Now, I read this though, and of course the next verse says, they blaspheme God.
SPEAKER_03: Right?
SPEAKER_03: And again, my mind goes, What in the world?
SPEAKER_03: How could you not at least at this point start crying out to him?
SPEAKER_03: But then let's go back to the plagues of Egypt.
SPEAKER_03: The Egyptians did the exact same thing.
SPEAKER_03: And Pharaoh took it even to another level in some of this.
SPEAKER_03: So this is not really a mystery of mankind.
SPEAKER_03: Mankind has a very stubborn soul in this when it comes to this stuff.
SPEAKER_03: Now, I don't know how this is going to work.
SPEAKER_03: People ask, how is this going to happen?
SPEAKER_03: Is the sun and the earth going to move closer to one another?
SPEAKER_03: Um, it could possibly be that.
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't feel like it would be that simply because how it would tilt the earth and cause all this stuff issues with the with the moon and all this stuff.
SPEAKER_03: I think there's a key in this, though.
SPEAKER_03: When it starts out, it says the fourth angel poured out his bowl upon the sun.
SPEAKER_03: He didn't pour it upon the earth and cause something, he poured it in the sun.
SPEAKER_03: So it makes it think in my mind, first of all, we remember the sun is one massive star, right?
SPEAKER_03: And if you get close to it, you can actually see like flames kind of you know shooting out.
SPEAKER_03: My mind tells me, and I can't prove this, but my mind tells me is that is when that ball is poured out, it's like all of a sudden fire shoots out from the sun.
SPEAKER_03: Now, I don't know that, but that's just kind of what I think in that.
SPEAKER_03: Could the sun move closer to the earth or the earth closer to the sun?
SPEAKER_03: Sure, I guess, but I don't, it just, you know, and and there is a possibility of that, and I'll explain it here in just a moment, uh, of some things.
SPEAKER_03: But I don't know how this is gonna happen.
SPEAKER_03: What I do know is people are gonna be burned and they're still gonna blaspheme God.
SPEAKER_03: Hang on.
SPEAKER_03: All right, hold on.
SPEAKER_03: Let me let me all right.
SPEAKER_03: I saw two hands go up at the same time, so let's just all right, hold on, we're gonna get a microphone.
SPEAKER_01: My question is, even if they repented at this point, they've already taken the mark of the beast, if they've already gotten all this to this point, it's not gonna matter anyway.
SPEAKER_03: Those with the mark of the beast will not have a chance at all.
SPEAKER_01: So even if they repent at this point.
SPEAKER_03: But that is only that first bowl is only for those with the mark of the beast.
SPEAKER_03: We know that there will be people on the earth still at this time that have not received the mark yet.
SPEAKER_03: So that's how these things can affect.
unknown: But only those only the bees people.
SPEAKER_03: The beast people hits the first.
SPEAKER_03: This is going to hit everybody.
unknown: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_03: This is everybody.
SPEAKER_03: Everybody's going to be affected in two, three, four, and we'll see.
SPEAKER_03: They could.
SPEAKER_03: Those without the mark.
SPEAKER_03: That's a great question.
SPEAKER_03: Very valid point.
SPEAKER_03: Kyle.
SPEAKER_03: I love that question.
SPEAKER_02: So I was thinking um the sun is made up of hydrogen and helium and plasma.
SPEAKER_02: So it's volatile gas and plasma.
SPEAKER_02: Do you think it is possible that the sun actually explodes during the fourth plague?
SPEAKER_02: Because the fifth plague is darkness falls on the kingdom of the beast's throne.
SPEAKER_02: So is it do you think it's possible that the sun explodes and the plasma and gas is rained down on earth, and that's what scorches people and burns people, and why the darkness falls on the beast throne.
SPEAKER_03: That's what follows.
SPEAKER_03: I think it's a very good concept, idea, and probability.
SPEAKER_03: Um, it's a very, very realistic aspect.
SPEAKER_03: The only thing that would probably counter to that is what would be the light thereafter.
SPEAKER_03: Because after the sun is gone, we get no light from the moon.
SPEAKER_03: Because the moon doesn't have light, the moon reflects light from the sun.
SPEAKER_03: And if the moon is not there at that time, how does that affect gravitational pull?
SPEAKER_03: How does that affect um, you know, well, most of the well, all the sea life's gone by this point.
SPEAKER_03: But how does that affect the waters and that?
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: It it's a really good way to think of.
SPEAKER_03: The other side of it is God would have to institute some kind of light relatively quickly because we're gonna be surprised the timeline of this, by the way.
SPEAKER_03: Um, whereas, you know, other things have taken a progressive time.
SPEAKER_03: This is gonna be a shocking timeline.
SPEAKER_03: Now, in saying that too, we also know that God Himself is light.
SPEAKER_03: So does that light just emanate from him into that?
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: But it's a really good thought process.
SPEAKER_03: Those are really both of those are good questions, and I like that way of thinking.
SPEAKER_03: Which, by the way, there's no, when we get into this stuff, there's not really a wrong answer because this is these are the things that we can only speculate upon.
SPEAKER_03: We cannot give 100% guarantee of an answer on some of this stuff.
SPEAKER_03: How that sun scorches the earth, could it explode?
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's a fear of scientists right now.
SPEAKER_03: All the time, right?
SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, you could have some kind of massive.
SPEAKER_03: You could even, I'd say you could possibly, that thing could probably split in half and still, you know, give some light and then scorch, you know, some and the others.
SPEAKER_03: So I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: Great thought, though.
SPEAKER_03: Verse 10.
SPEAKER_03: The fifth angel poured out his bow upon the throne of the beast, and his kingdom became darkened, and they gnawed their tongues because of pain, and they blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and they did not repent of their deeds.
SPEAKER_03: Well, this one's interesting.
SPEAKER_03: Now darkness covers what?
SPEAKER_03: The beast kingdom.
SPEAKER_03: Where is the beast kingdom?
SPEAKER_03: On earth, where?
SPEAKER_03: I thought I heard somebody say it over here.
SPEAKER_03: Huh?
SPEAKER_03: Israel.
SPEAKER_03: Where does he set up his throne?
SPEAKER_03: In the temple.
SPEAKER_03: So if we're talking about a physical location, where does the darkness happen?
SPEAKER_03: At the temple, Jerusalem, Israel.
SPEAKER_03: Now, if we're talking about people, now we're talking about an expansive darkness.
SPEAKER_03: Because it could be a lot more than just that local region, obviously, right?
SPEAKER_03: Then that gives to that about could the sun explode and darkness cover the whole earth.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if we're talking about people, does Satan have a kingdom?
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_03: And it's it's it's not hell, though.
SPEAKER_03: Everybody thinks Satan's kingdom is hell, and it's not.
SPEAKER_03: Hell is Satan's punishment for until he goes into the cast into the lake of fire.
SPEAKER_03: It's not like he's captain of the party ship USS Hell.
SPEAKER_03: That's not that's not what he is in that.
SPEAKER_03: People gnaw on their tongues.
SPEAKER_03: I love that word, by the way.
SPEAKER_03: It reminds me of sitting at the old country store back in the day when men used to gnaw on tobacco.
SPEAKER_03: Can you imagine just seeing a bunch of people gnawing on their tongues because they're in pain?
SPEAKER_03: Now, what's interesting about that?
SPEAKER_03: What kind of what kind of picture does that set for y'all?
SPEAKER_03: Interesting enough, that's a future image of what they're gonna be doing if they don't repent and they'll be in hell.
SPEAKER_03: Weeping, gnashing of teeth, and they will, and you gotta know in gnashing of teeth, they gotta be gnawing on that tongue some.
SPEAKER_03: Now, could it be too that they're gnawing on their tongue because that's what they're using to blaspheme?
SPEAKER_03: Just something to think about.
SPEAKER_03: This darkness, by the way, in Exodus 10, verse 21 and 22, the ninth plague that fell upon Egypt was darkness.
SPEAKER_03: Now, where did that happen?
SPEAKER_03: Only in Egypt.
SPEAKER_03: If this is a type and shadow of the plague, that would mean that kingdom would be where the temple's at.
SPEAKER_03: If it is a type and shadow.
SPEAKER_03: If it is not, and it's more like a spiritual kingdom, then it can be a lot larger.
SPEAKER_03: Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: Humanity continues to suffer intensely, yet once again, they don't repent.
SPEAKER_03: Now, what's interesting about this is Jesus describes hell as outer darkness.
SPEAKER_03: And this bowl is giving you such a foreshadow of things coming.
SPEAKER_03: Outer darkness, rejected by God, gnawing on your tongue, and refusing to repent.
SPEAKER_03: Verse 12 through 16.
SPEAKER_03: And the sixth angel poured out his bowl upon the great river of the Euphrates, and its waters which dried up, that the way might be prepared for the kings from the east.
SPEAKER_03: And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits, like frogs.
SPEAKER_03: For they are spirits of demons, performing signs which go out to the kings of the whole world to gather them together for the war of the great day of God the Almighty.
SPEAKER_03: Behold, I am coming like a thief.
SPEAKER_03: Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his garments, lest he walk about naked and man see his shame.
SPEAKER_03: And they gathered them together to the place which in the Hebrew is called Har Megedon.
SPEAKER_03: What's happening?
SPEAKER_03: We're about to see the war is the end of wars.
SPEAKER_03: Which again, they sort of tell us the timeline is different than most.
SPEAKER_03: So what's interesting is this bowl is poured out on the Euphrates River and it dries up to allow the kings to cross dry ground for battle.
SPEAKER_03: But who summons the kings for battle?
SPEAKER_03: These demonic frogs.
SPEAKER_03: My mom hates frogs, which has always been a joke for us because we like, we always want to try to threaten to buy one and give it to her and stuff and everything.
SPEAKER_03: This may be the reason why I've never even thought about it.
SPEAKER_03: But she hates frogs.
SPEAKER_03: This remind you of Egypt at all.
SPEAKER_03: Right?
SPEAKER_03: So, why the Euphrates River?
SPEAKER_03: Euphrates River is one of those rivers that's mentioned a lot in the Bible.
SPEAKER_03: But why the Euphrates River?
SPEAKER_03: Where are the kings coming from?
SPEAKER_03: The east.
SPEAKER_03: So the Euphrates River, if we were to look at a mount, it's a big barrier.
SPEAKER_03: So if it dries up, what does it do?
SPEAKER_03: Open the way for all these kings to come together.
SPEAKER_03: So these demonic spirits, where do they come from?
SPEAKER_03: The dragon, the beast, and the false prophet.
SPEAKER_03: Who's the dragon?
SPEAKER_03: Satan.
SPEAKER_03: Who's the beast?
SPEAKER_03: Antichrist.
SPEAKER_03: So I can't remember which movie it is.
SPEAKER_03: I've seen a movie before where somebody like spit out and things came out of their mouth.
SPEAKER_03: This is exactly how I see it.
SPEAKER_03: I can't help it.
SPEAKER_03: I see it this way when I read it.
SPEAKER_03: Satan, frogs come out, and Tie bees, zh.
SPEAKER_03: And the false prophet, just frogs coming out.
SPEAKER_03: Now the size of these frogs, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03: But just, ooh.
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03: When you go to the aquarium and you see the frogs, think of this.
SPEAKER_03: Because it's not gonna.
SPEAKER_03: I can't imagine anybody going, that was awesome.
SPEAKER_03: Unless you are demonically filled, then yeah, you might think that's awesome.
SPEAKER_03: Why frogs though?
SPEAKER_03: It's interesting.
SPEAKER_03: Because honestly, frogs are known to be very unclean.
SPEAKER_03: They're in a lot of cultures, they're actually considered repulsive.
SPEAKER_03: Why?
SPEAKER_03: What are they notorious to give you?
SPEAKER_03: Warts.
SPEAKER_03: What's another issue about frogs?
SPEAKER_03: They aren't very quiet, are they?
SPEAKER_03: When we lived in Florida, we lived in Florida and we lived right in the bay, and there was these little bitty frogs that would get on the windows and the doors.
SPEAKER_03: And I don't care.
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you literally could walk out and there'd be ten of them.
SPEAKER_03: And it would just be all night.
SPEAKER_03: You feel like going outside and go, shut up! For the life of me, would you just shut up?
SPEAKER_03: And then they just get louder.
SPEAKER_03: Imagine if that's the case and these frogs come out, you know?
SPEAKER_03: Now, here's the thing about this, though.
SPEAKER_03: I laugh at this and I read this.
SPEAKER_03: I find it funny and I can't help it.
SPEAKER_03: I know that's my sick, twisted humor there.
SPEAKER_03: But think about how frogs are placed in culture.
SPEAKER_03: There's a famous story that if you kiss the frog, he'll turn into a prince.
SPEAKER_03: And then there's actually in some cultures frog kings where the culture would actually worship these kings that were actually frogs.
SPEAKER_03: Now, we don't think much about that being children's stories, but nations gather together at this place.
SPEAKER_03: Anyone know the name that you're most familiar with?
SPEAKER_03: Bruce Willis played in the movie with it.
SPEAKER_03: They were going to do an you know stop an asteroid.
SPEAKER_03: Armageddon.
SPEAKER_03: And Brenda went, oh.
SPEAKER_03: So you saw the movie.
SPEAKER_03: Now, here's the thing.
SPEAKER_03: Nations are not fighting one another.
SPEAKER_03: Got to remember, all the nations have already turned against Israel.
SPEAKER_03: They're not going to fight one another.
SPEAKER_03: What are they coming together to fight?
SPEAKER_03: God.
SPEAKER_03: They're going to fight the Messiah and they're going to fight his kingdom.
SPEAKER_03: Psalm 2 clearly tells us this.
SPEAKER_03: In the middle of this passage, though, Jesus says in verse 15, there's a key right here in verse 15.
SPEAKER_03: Behold, I am coming like a thief.
SPEAKER_03: What isn't that?
SPEAKER_03: Isn't verse 15 kind of peculiar to be thrown in the middle of this?
SPEAKER_03: It's now, here's the thing.
SPEAKER_03: Does your translation have this in parentheses?
SPEAKER_03: I'm just asking in that verse.
SPEAKER_03: It's in red.
SPEAKER_03: Some translation, which means who said it?
SPEAKER_03: Jesus.
SPEAKER_03: Now, where is it coming from?
SPEAKER_03: Is there a reference to this?
SPEAKER_03: Has Jesus ever said, Behold, I'm coming like a thief?
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_03: He said this.
SPEAKER_03: I'm coming as a thief.
SPEAKER_03: He even talks about it in one passage, there'll be two in the field.
SPEAKER_03: Remember?
SPEAKER_03: All right.
SPEAKER_03: And he says, Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his garments, lest he walk about naked and man see his shame.
SPEAKER_03: What in the world?
SPEAKER_03: This is strange to be put in here on this.
SPEAKER_03: It's like all of a sudden there's this one little break, and everything seems really bad, and Jesus reminds believers, you got to be watchful, you got to be ready, and you got to be faithful.
SPEAKER_03: But here's the thing: who's he talking to?
SPEAKER_03: If every Christian is already in heaven, what's verse 15 talking to?
SPEAKER_03: Who's 15 talking to?
SPEAKER_03: Those on the earth.
SPEAKER_03: And that's important.
SPEAKER_03: Now, why would you say, keep your garments?
SPEAKER_03: Well, first of all, we have to remember before we ever have a relationship with Jesus Christ, even though in the natural we're clothed, spiritually speaking, we're unclothed.
SPEAKER_03: Because when you see receive salvation, you're given what?
SPEAKER_03: A what?
SPEAKER_03: Not at first salvation, you're given a gown of salvation, a new garment, gown of salvation.
SPEAKER_03: Everybody that's born again has been given that gown of salvation.
SPEAKER_03: You're dressed, you've got that.
SPEAKER_03: Our faithfulness merits the transition to a robe of righteousness.
SPEAKER_03: That's why sometimes you'll hear me joke, and I've said it for years, I am working my way to a robe of righteousness because I just don't think I'd look right in a gown.
SPEAKER_03: Now, Marvin may, but I'm gonna need a robe.
SPEAKER_03: Verse 17 And the seventh angel poured out his bow upon the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple, saying from the throne, saying, It is done.
SPEAKER_03: And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder, and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came upon the earth.
SPEAKER_03: So great an earthquake was it, and so mighty.
SPEAKER_03: And the great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell.
SPEAKER_03: And Babylon, the great, was remembered before God to give her the cup of the wine of his fierce wrath, and every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
SPEAKER_03: That breaks my heart.
SPEAKER_03: And a huge hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, came down from heaven upon men, and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hell, because its plague was so was extremely severe.
SPEAKER_03: Now, the seventh angel pours the blood, the bowl out.
SPEAKER_03: What happens?
SPEAKER_03: Earthquake collapses cities, splits the great city into three parts.
SPEAKER_03: What is the great city?
SPEAKER_03: What?
SPEAKER_03: Babylon?
SPEAKER_03: Are we 100% sure?
SPEAKER_03: I love the look I get on somebody's faces because some of y'all like, you're you're you're trying to set me up for something here.
SPEAKER_03: All right, how do we know it's Babylon?
SPEAKER_03: It says so.
SPEAKER_03: That's how you know.
SPEAKER_03: It removes the speculation of it.
SPEAKER_03: It's always good when you can see it clearly in Scripture, right?
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: So now there's no more delay.
SPEAKER_03: What comes out of the temple?
SPEAKER_03: And again, this the voice comes out of the temple from the throne.
SPEAKER_03: More than likely, this is who?
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_03: Now, let's think about something.
SPEAKER_03: Can we say 100% that it is God?
SPEAKER_03: If it just said the temple, we could possibly say it's more likely God.
SPEAKER_03: But who's on the throne at this point?
SPEAKER_03: Remember the lamb that was put on the throne?
SPEAKER_03: So I'm saying this to say this could possibly also be Jesus.
SPEAKER_03: Okay?
SPEAKER_03: The temple and the throne could be the Father and the Son.
SPEAKER_03: Or it could just be God, or it could just be Jesus.
SPEAKER_03: Does that make sense to what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03: Because remember, he early in Revelation, he's put on the throne.
SPEAKER_03: Now, that's not the throne he's going to forever dwell on, right?
SPEAKER_03: We remember that?
SPEAKER_03: Because eventually, what's going to happen?
SPEAKER_03: He's going to sit on the throne of David.
SPEAKER_03: But at this moment, we know that he's there.
SPEAKER_03: We know that he's there doing what from the throne?
SPEAKER_03: Making what?
SPEAKER_03: Making intercession.
SPEAKER_03: At this point, he's actually making judgments.
SPEAKER_03: It's hard for us to remember this sometimes, but there will be a day to when like he sits on the throne as to make judgments in this.
SPEAKER_03: And this is happening in this process right here.
SPEAKER_03: And this is this is tough.
SPEAKER_03: So the great earthquake is obviously going to be one unlike any human history.
SPEAKER_03: Now, again, this kind of gives the idea possibly could the sun explode and the moon and all this.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_03: What could happen if the sun explodes and the moon goes away?
SPEAKER_03: There's probably going to be an earthquake.
SPEAKER_03: It could potentially be that because all those things affect the earth to some degree.
SPEAKER_03: And those things could be happening.
SPEAKER_03: Cities are going to collapse, which is just wild to think about.
SPEAKER_03: That you can just have these massive cities just dropping.
SPEAKER_03: But then regions around it not.
SPEAKER_03: But the cities go away.
SPEAKER_03: Babylon is judged.
SPEAKER_03: Islands are going to disappear.
SPEAKER_03: Mountains are going to collapse.
SPEAKER_03: And that just breaks my heart because I love these mountains.
SPEAKER_03: But the entire world is shaken.
SPEAKER_03: God remembers Great Babylon and the complete destruction.
SPEAKER_03: Now we have these giant hellstones, which is just unreal to imagine.
SPEAKER_03: Roughly a hundred pounds falling from heaven.
SPEAKER_03: I am sorry.
SPEAKER_03: I have such a hard time wrapping my mind around how men are going to blaspheme, getting knocked in the head with a hundred-pound hell, you know, hailstone.
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03: That's just like, oh my gosh, that's unreal.
SPEAKER_03: But then, what does it say?
SPEAKER_03: Men still blasphemed him.
SPEAKER_03: Now, all this is leading up for what?
SPEAKER_03: The battle.
SPEAKER_03: One of the things that we're going to see going forward, though, is the battle is going to introduce who?
SPEAKER_03: Jesus.
SPEAKER_03: Jesus is going to come to earth then.
SPEAKER_03: And the battle is going to really intensify.
SPEAKER_03: I'll better leave this open just in case.
SPEAKER_03: Going forward.
SPEAKER_03: So, in saying all this, all these things are very, very terrifying.
SPEAKER_03: But let's talk about something.
SPEAKER_03: This is towards the end of the tribulation period.
SPEAKER_03: How do we know that?
SPEAKER_03: Well, we finally get the name Armageddon, right?
SPEAKER_03: And we see that the kings are coming from the east, so the battle's ramping up, so we know this is towards the end.
SPEAKER_03: We can say that with guarantee.
SPEAKER_03: How long is this battle?
SPEAKER_03: I mean, not battle, these bowls.
SPEAKER_03: Anybody got an idea?
SPEAKER_03: No guesses?
SPEAKER_03: How long?
SPEAKER_03: Well, it won't be three and a half years.
SPEAKER_03: We can know that with a fact because it never mentions 1260 days.
SPEAKER_03: Or um three and a half years.
SPEAKER_03: Remember that?
SPEAKER_03: Remember every time we know we're kind of halfway at members of that three and a half years?
SPEAKER_03: Anybody else got a guess?
SPEAKER_03: Days.
SPEAKER_03: Be more specific.
SPEAKER_03: I gotta have a little bit more roundabout guess.
SPEAKER_03: Seven days.
SPEAKER_03: That would be pretty interesting, wouldn't it?
SPEAKER_03: Why would that be interesting?
SPEAKER_03: And you know, seven days of creation.
SPEAKER_03: Why not?
SPEAKER_03: That would be kind of cool.
SPEAKER_03: Um, and it it logistically, you know, it kind of would make sense in a lot of ways.
SPEAKER_03: You know, I would only want to suffer with bulls for seven days.
SPEAKER_03: To be honest with you, I wouldn't want to suffer for one day, but I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_03: anybody else got a guess?
SPEAKER_03: No?
SPEAKER_03: How many, okay.
SPEAKER_03: Here is the common idea.
SPEAKER_03: Thirty days or less.
SPEAKER_03: So could it be seven days?
SPEAKER_03: Could it be twenty-one days?
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_03: You know, technically can it be more than 30 days?
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
SPEAKER_03: Anything's possible.
SPEAKER_03: But the reason I'm bringing this up is when this wrath kicks in, it is a very quick process.
SPEAKER_03: Why?
SPEAKER_03: Man ain't gonna be able to live long.
SPEAKER_03: You just, it it's impossible.
SPEAKER_03: You could you could start on one and maybe that lasts seven days.
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_03: But once these two kick in, you ain't gonna have many days left.
SPEAKER_03: When two and three kick in, we're talking about speeding this thing up really, really quickly.
SPEAKER_03: And then you might be somewhat, here you're gonna be okay if it's just darkness over the temple.
SPEAKER_03: You can make some days out of that.
SPEAKER_03: But this right here is a major issue.
SPEAKER_03: So it's not gonna be something that's gonna be stretched out.
SPEAKER_03: And the reason I bring this up is this is another reminder that God's wrath isn't about just being vindictive.
SPEAKER_03: God's wrath is about justice.
SPEAKER_03: And it's a quick justice.
SPEAKER_03: For what reason?
SPEAKER_03: These things right here is what's going to accelerate the battle.
SPEAKER_03: All this other stuff that we've read beforehand, none of that has accelerated the battle.
SPEAKER_03: But once this happens, let's go to war.
SPEAKER_03: That's the mentality.
SPEAKER_03: Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_03: Any questions?
SPEAKER_03: Everybody's good.
SPEAKER_03: Nobody's confused, right?
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, it's one of these things that this ain't the most yay chapters.
SPEAKER_03: This is this is an unnerving chapter, in all honesty.
SPEAKER_03: It's very unnerving.
SPEAKER_03: What I would, if I could encourage you to do anything, here's what I'd I'd encourage you to do.
SPEAKER_03: Go back and read about Egypt again.
SPEAKER_03: Go back and refresh your mind about that and see how the people reacted and see why God did what he did.
SPEAKER_03: The big picture of it all is about deliverance.
SPEAKER_03: The big picture of all is still about deliverance.