Academy Awards Recap (2026)

Sinners, One Battle, and Marty, oh my! Today we cover the Academy Awards. Who won, who should have won? Why was the presentation so rough? And why did some performances make us weep!?

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:19

Hello, hello, welcome to another episode of a Mostly Film Podcast. We are the revered real watchers, the pursuers of picture shows. We are the fanatics of flicks. I'm saying we like movies. I am Brandon. With me as always is Ricky. Ricky, how are you today?

SPEAKER_01 0:40

I'm doing pretty good. I'm I'm excited for this episode.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

Uh you know, I I was feeling pretty excited too, but I I mean, I don't think anything interesting in movies happened this past week. Uh do we have a topic today? I I mean, did anything happen? I'm looking online. It says something called the Academy Awards happen. I I'm not familiar. What what are the academia awards?

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Oh, yeah, they're uh named for uh Oscar the Grouch, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Gotcha. Okay, so I thought it was an Oscar Award, so it is an Oscar. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Great. I mean it could be.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

I'm not great at pronunciation, so yeah, we I'm not big in etymology, so I'm not sure. This is fantastic. So from my understanding, these uh Oscars, as they are called, are a big celebration. I believe it's the 98th Academy Award celebration. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Yeah, and um yeah, I'm pretty sure like if you're not like the only way to tell if a movie's good is if you're nominated. Like if you're not nominated.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Sorry, your movie's not did you make billions of dollars but no awards? You're not good. Did you make no money and no awards?

SPEAKER_01 1:51

These are the only good movies ever.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Yeah, Timothy Chalamet approves of this.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

As long as it's not ballet or opera. Opera, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

That man, that man hates art that isn't about ping pong, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

I guess we we can start on that. Like, like um it's just like like uh it's just uh like why? Like, what did he think was going to to happen, like saying that? It's like I I don't know. Everyone's gonna agree with me.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

Yeah, I guess it'd say for those who don't know, uh Chalamet was doing an interview with I believe Matthew McConaughey, where he was asked a pretty good question about should movies start slow or fast, what have you? And one of Timmy's responses was I can call him Timmy, I'm I'm familiar with his buddy, I guess. Um Timothy's response was essentially, oh, I I want to keep making interesting movies because I don't want my art form to die out like ballet or opera, something along those lines, something that uh or that uh an art form nobody cares about anymore. Which turns out a lot of people care about. So they got all sorts of backlash from different artists, and I I think the strange thing is that it came from Chalamet, who I mean, any interview I've seen of him, he tries to really hold himself up as an artist, so it seemed odd that he would belittle other art so freeingly. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Like, I I understand, like, uh I feel like ballet and opera are more niche, I guess. You know, like maybe like they aren't as popular, but like they have like people who who love them, like love them. And I mean it's like, you know, why just like uh like I I don't know, maybe he like said it and he didn't think it was gonna be such a big deal.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Um maybe he thought it was gonna just be like a fun get a laugh, move on, and not think or think of it. But it also kind of makes me worry that some people do look at art as only successful if you make money, if you make awards, because there's definitely been movies that are amazing that don't get award recognition, that don't win money. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say how great Rocky Horror Picture Show is, and that movie bombed when it came out. People did not see it. It did not win Academy Awards.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Yeah, that is where the occult classic thing comes into play. It's like, you know, these these films don't get recognition until years later. I don't really know like when Rocky Horror like uh became the phenomenon. That is like the right.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

I know it came out the same year as Greece, which is a very weird one-two punch of musicals, if I if I recall correctly. Um you know, it's it's funny that people do say that, or that he was saying that oh, no one cares about dance or ballet or whatever, because I actually just saw the Martha Graham Dance Company recently. They toured nearby and I got to go see them, and it was an absolutely moving experience. Everyone in that pretty big theater was just feeling it. Like it it if you tell me dance is dead, you're just wrong. You know, I I got to see dance, and I'm not from like a big city, I'm not living in New York or anything. So it's it's alive and well, as far as I can tell.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

Yeah, it is like um because you you know, like l like like you said, he does consider himself, you know. Well, like, I mean how he carries himself and everything, and I guess talks about himself like, you know, like a real artist and everything. It's like you would think he would, you know, just like wanna be more mindful. Yeah, and want to celebrate art, um you know, instead of like Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Like It makes me wonder Oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

I I feel like it's like one of those things that like it it'll blow over, I mean, eventually.

SPEAKER_00 6:08

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

But like I do feel like So I've had kind of an issue, like like he's kind of I I don't know, been been getting on my my nerves, I guess, just like and I don't really know why. I mean it's just he he strikes me as someone who's very like full of himself, which I mean, you know, you you need to have confidence and everything, but I I hope he like grows he learns he like grows more humble, I guess. Um is like the end.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Yeah. I mean, how old was he when he did Call Me by Your Name? Because he was pretty young in that, right? Was he just like I feel like he might have been like 21 or so. Yeah. Um I mean, being that young and already getting pretty big recognition and then it continued. It's not like his career just kind of floundered after that.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

Skyrocket to him.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Yeah, it turns out he's uh kind of an everything.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Yeah. And I mean he's a great actor and everything. It's just I was talking to a co-worker about this, it's and he uh brought up um a good example, like Colin Farrell, I feel like, early on. Like he wasn't like, you know, getting nominated for Oscars and everything, but like he was kind of like rubbing people the the wrong way, and like now I feel like he's very like beloved and everything, he kind of like toned down and like um seems like a very likable person.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

So I mean it I think even on a micro level, we've been in theaters with people, like been in plays or musicals or something with you know, very small time theaters, we're not going for awards, we're doing it because we love it. But then we've definitely been with these not famous actors who think that they are the most famous, most talented actors. So I mean it just happens on all levels where you can just get that ego. You know, it it almost makes me wonder, like, the way that he kind of shot down a whole other art medium. Like, does that happen in any other area? Like, do you see football players like being like, phew, baseball sucks, no one cares about that? Like, I feel like you just don't see that the same way.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

I actually, um I didn't really l look into to this, but I saw today, I guess Tom Brady had like made a comment about the WWE or or something. So like there were like these wrestlers, like, you know, clapping back at him or something. Like to look into that. Yeah, so um that is like one one thing I just saw like like randomly. I don't know exactly what he said.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

But um maybe some people get too big for their britches and just think my thing is better than all other things.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

Yeah, and I think it's like you know, just not thinking be before you say things too. It's like not realizing like how big it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

But obviously it was a big deal to a lot of people because it was even addressed in Conan O'Brien's opening monologue. I believe it was his opening joke, talking about how there was danger, uh, because the dance community and the opera community might attack at any moment. So clearly it it made some waves. I think that's a great segue. I think we should talk about the Oscars. Ricky, what did you think? What did you feel about the whole vibe about the whole Academy Awards in general?

SPEAKER_01 9:41

So, um this the the ceremony as a whole, I had two big issues, and they kind of like combine, I guess, for like the same issue. I'm kind of curious if um you had the same feelings. But um So I understand it's a television show, and like I re remember like the ones from like the 90s that were running like four or five hours long, right? You know, and everything. So it's like, you know, you have a time frame, you want to try and like get it in. I do not agree with like how quickly they will play some people off.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

Oh, it's heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Like, I mean, it's like a lot of these people like this is their moment. Yeah. Like, I mean, this is like the the greatest moment of their their life to this point. It's like, you know, they wanna be able to, you know, speak about it. And like I didn't even realize this, but it was both um both times for K-pop demon hunters, like when it won for animated film, like one of them started getting played off, but they let her finish. And then the second one for Best Song for Golden. EJ, you know, does like her speech and everything, and then there were like five or six other guys up there with her, and then the one guy goes to speak, and they literally like took the mic down like like they like and it cut to Conan who's just like laughing, being like, What is going on? Like, that was just like I was like, This is just awful. It's and so like going into that, they they have celebrities like come out, you know, and present the awards and everything. And it's like, I don't know about you, but like all the jokes they were like doing were falling flat.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Like I'm curious because there was a few moments where I I will say this was one of the sloppiest Oscars I've seen in a long time in terms of audio quality, the the camera control. There was there was a couple times where they tried to cut to someone in the audience and the camera was just pointing at the ground and it tries to go back up and it just goes back to Conan instead. And so, like, for a while I thought Conan was kind of struggling because the audience seemed to be dead, but then there was a moment where I saw people do a standing ovation. I believe it maybe was for um it might have been when K-pop won for one of their awards where it got a standing ovation, but then like you listen to the audience and you're not hearing much clapping. So I that's when I went, oh, maybe the audio mixing is just really, really bad. The audience isn't mic'. I don't I don't know. I mean, that it was quite confusing to watch at times.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

And there was the one time when uh Conan like he wasn't sure if like they were back, and like he was just on there for a while, and it's like and he's just talking to the audience. Okay, and yeah, so I don't know what it what it was, but like the communication wasn't there like to him, I think. I I don't think it was him, I think it was you know, like whoever was like communicating with him.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Yeah, I've I mean there's always gonna be flubs on live TV, but yeah, I don't think I've ever seen an Oscars be this chaotic in terms of just basic editing cuts audio, which is very ironic for an award show that is honoring almost all of those things at a certain point.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

But uh yeah, what I was saying, like like the one that uh really cut comes to mind, Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr., whatever the hell they were doing, but but like that was like falling flat as hell. But it's like why do you need this? So you you need this, but people who are winning, you know, and like you're gonna cut them off, like come on.

SPEAKER_00 13:56

You know, it's funny you mentioned that because I I kinda hit the same feeling. Like, I get they need to have their like viral internet moment because like that's it as much as we want the movies to be for mov like the Oscars to be for movie fans, it is still an event for casual audience members who I was watching it with people who did not see a single movie that was nominated. They didn't know anything, they didn't understand some of the jokes because they were just like the opening bit where Conan's doing the weapons parody, they had no idea what that was about. So that's probably why they have those like Chris Evan, Rob Gunny Jr. like Avengers reunion, and like uh okay. But like I'm completely with you. I would much rather watch a three-minute acceptance speech than watch the you know five-minute comedy bits that sometimes don't land. The the ones with the uh the bridesmaids, they they I thought did a great job with theirs. That was that was probably one of the best best ones that were the in between, but a lot of them just oof.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Even with the bridesmaid one, like like that was kind of awkward when they were like cutting to the people in the audience. It's like, uh you know, it was like but i it was just cool like seeing them all together there, and you know, I love all of them, so yeah. Um but yeah, other than than that, there is one thing. Um I think the in memorium, one of the best they've ever done.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Absolutely. Yeah, I want to talk about this.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

That that was I was tearing up, not not gonna lie, like that uh that definitely got me. But um, that that was really cool.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

It's interesting because it hit me about halfway through they did, I believe, the the song from Sinners, and then I realized like, have have they not done any other musical numbers? And I think they did one from they did K-pop, they did uh Golden, but those are the only two they they were doing, yeah, and I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Well, yeah, that that was another thing. Um, because like usually I'm pretty sure like m almost always you'll um get all the the songs.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

Yeah, but and I assume they did that just because one, it was kind of obvious that that might have been the easiest Oscar to predict was K-pop Demon Hunters winning animated in song. That was an easy pick for everybody. But I think it's because they did want to make the In Memorium a bit more special and real, and my god, Billy Crystal talking about Rob Reiner was so heartfelt and so magical, and it does make you forget one, Rob Reiner did so many amazing movies just from start to finish. That man was a powerhouse and a storyteller, but it does it it really did make me, and it's gonna sound sappy, but it really did make me realize man, I really love movies, I really love this art form, and Billy Crystal, I think, did a phenomenal job more or less giving like a eulogy and celebrating Rob Reiner and his wife's work and movies as a whole. You had Barbara Streisand out there singing. Um I mean there's just so many wonderful moments in that uh in the mid-memorium.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Yeah, Streisand talking about Redford was um really sweet. Um the the cast um from all of Reiner's movies, that was pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_00 17:43

Yeah, I got chills just thinking about it again. It's wonderful. It's absolutely wonderful.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

Mick Adams talking about Diane Keaton was really sweet.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Yeah, that's the I completely forgot Diane Keaton passed away this year, and my god, just some major legends. Yeah, love Catherine O'Hara got a pretty good shout-out too.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

The one she's that I was really hoping was you Eugene Levy was gonna come out and talk about Catherine.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

But um Oh man, I'm sure that would have been so difficult.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Yeah. But um they they had Rachel McCadams kind of like talking about her there, like before she went into Diane Keaton. Um but but yeah, it was just it was really sweet. It was one of the best um they they've done.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

Um But again, like that that's what I love as a movie admirer, and that will that that's what we love as people who love cinema and the artistry of it all. I remember looking online shortly after, or maybe near the end of it, and saw a lot of comments that were just like, oh my god, this is so long, this is so boring, get back to the awards, and I'm just thinking, Oh my god, why do you people hate art? Like, what the hell? This is for the people who love this shit. I broke my heart, man.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

I I do, like, um, because I think it's funny. Um like when I was a kid, you know, I didn't give a shit about the this kind of stuff. And like now it's funny, um, like best editing and best s cinematography, two of my favorite categories, and like um, you know, back in the day, like I didn't even know what these things were. I'm like, I don't care, like, you know, so yeah, I mean I do like that as like the the whole casual thing.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Also, I want to kind of go back to what you were saying really quickly just to touch up on how they would cut award ceremony or award speeches off. It happens the most to people in those categories in like editing and cinematography and things, uh you know, hair, makeup, set design, production design. That's it happens to them because they're not, you know, quote unquote stars, they're not famous. And that's so disrespectful to those artists because they are artists.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

It was years ago, um, they were talking about like cutting those categories like from the show, like completely, and like people people like you know had the backlash, like, are you serious? Um Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Yeah, it's uh and um so I I don't know if we we want to go ahead and t talk about this, but um we had the the the first female cinematography winner, um which is awesome. I was like so like when when she's like speaking, I was like, oh, are they gonna cut her off?

SPEAKER_00 20:53

I was like, are you really gonna gonna do this? Like you gonna cut off the first woman to win cinematography? Fucking annihilated.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

The uh thought, you know, came into my head, like, oh yeah, go go ahead, see how how this goes.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Like, yeah, good luck. Yeah. But um remember a couple years ago when they had the whole Oscar is so white?

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Like, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

You want that again?

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Is that what you won Academy Awards? Yeah. Um but yeah, that that was another like really cool moment. It's funny because like I had had her as my front runner for a while, and then one battle started winning in cinematography pretty much everywhere. I th I I think it won ACA. Um, and I was like, alright, well, you know, which I mean I'm fine with. I think you know, one one battle's beautiful, some really awesome shots there. Um But yes, sinners centers came came through.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Um Yeah, let's I think let's get into it. Uh obviously the big winners of the nights were centers and One battle after another, those were the two. I think everyone kind of was saying that for a while.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Um yeah, if anybody follows it, I feel like that's you know, pretty easy.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

This this actually might have been one of the first Academy Awards where like there weren't really any winners that made me mad or sh super shocked.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

I felt like everything you you said that because I feel the the the exact same like little like weird when that happens. Pretty much all the nominees, I was like, Well, yeah, there were like a lot of categories where where I'm like, Yeah, I mean I'm cool with a lot of these. Like Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Yeah, it it really was like uh I did my predictions. I believe I was 15 out of 24. Uh so I got 15 right. I think I was eighteen. Eighteen, yeah. And basically, if I got it wrong, most of the time the person who won was who I wanted to win. Right. So like it was either who I think will win or who I wanted to win, and even the people that I thought would win were still people I'd be completely fine if they won. So that was actually kind of nice to watch. There wasn't really a moment where I was like, oh, really? You're gonna give it to this person? Okay, fine. Like every single person who won, I went, yeah, that makes sense. And it would have also made sense if they chose one of the other people.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Yeah, if I had gone with like the front runners more, I would have gotten some more. But I thought I thought centers was coming on strong there. Um more more so. Like that was what I picked for uh best picture, thought that that could get it. Um the the most shocking one to me was was casting. But I mean, you know, it's like this is the first year for it. We have nothing to go off of.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Right. I I honestly chose uh one battle after another to win best casting just because I was like, it has the most quote unquote recognizable names in that movie. And I know that's probably not like the you know, that it's not a judgment of anything, but I was like, I don't know, that's if it's the first one, that's probably gonna get the most like views online to be like, hey, look, Leonardo DiCaprio and Benicio del Toro, and you know, so on and so forth. They totally were a great cast.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

So I mean But I mean, you know, is that how how it's gonna play out, you know, here in the next uh ten years or so? Are are we gonna see that that trend? Or are we gonna see casting and best picture match up pretty much every year?

SPEAKER_00 24:37

Um yeah, that's true. Best casting and best picture did win the same say for the same movie. Yeah, I I I don't know. I will say I'm happy this award exists because there are movies where I go, I I don't know who you give the best actor or actress or who you nominate from this movie because the whole cast is so tightly dynamic and wonderful. So I love that they added this award to the movies, to the Oscars. I think it's a great addition.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Yeah, it's kind of crazy that it's taken 98 years.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

Yeah, and and I love that Cassandra's speech, she does mention, like, hey, this is for all the people who've been fighting for this for decades. Like, we've been trying to make this an award for a long time because this is huge. Like, casting directors have to do some wild stuff to make these casts.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

I really loved the uh presentation too. I I I would be be cool if like that is how they do it every year, like like have someone from the cast like come out and just like um speak about them. Like I thought that was really cool on like Chase Chase Infinity, like saying how you know, I mean, she pretty much gave her her big break.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Um Chase was a fantastic in it. Yeah. I remember after watching one battle that I was like, Who is this? And I looked her up and I was like, Oh, she has no other credits. Like she has like I think she had like a music video or something. Like it was something really small, I can't even remember.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Yeah, for for some reason I felt like I had like heard her her name be beef before, but maybe I I hadn't. But uh yeah, and she was like um she sh she looked go gorgeous too. Her and uh Renata Rhines from Sentimental Value. Like, I don't really, you know, get into like the whole like best restored or whatever, but I was like, man, like they're absolutely gorgeous.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

Um I remember last year they did something very similar for costume where they would have actors from the movies come out in their costume. When I actually I think the bit was only Bowen Gang came out in his costume for wicked, which was hysterical. But like they they I love that where they actually have someone from the movie say, Hey, you are awesome, thank you for this. I I just find that really endearing and wonderful. And I know some people go like, oh, it's a bunch of like celebrities just you know jerking each other off, but it's like put put your cynicism away for like 10 minutes and just enjoy that these are people that really love working with each other and are proud, like proud of each other's work. That's how I saw it, and I love that shit. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Yeah, I always loved those uh speeches too where where it's like you know, shouting out like everyone and like how it is um like a real team effort. Um because yeah, I mean there are a lot of categories that uh like you know the uh the assistant directors and everything and the gaffers and all th this stuff so so much goes into like a film. Oh yeah. I don't know. I'd like heard, and like maybe this is just like a people like wishful thinking thing, like that stunts was gonna become a category. Yeah, you're right. I I did hear something about that. So I don't know if it's coming up or if it's just like people are like, hey, this should be a category.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

It would be nice just because I I know action movies are very uh not represented at the Oscars typically, besides things like maybe sound design or sometimes visuals. You know, shout out to Avatar for winning uh visual effects.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

That was I mean, it's like Avatar's such a beast, like Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

That was another like, yeah, of course it's gonna win.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

As long as it's a movie, like, yeah, it's it's got the visual effect effects lot locked up.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

Uh really quickly, I want to jump over to maybe my favorite uh Oscar win. Maybe I would say the biggest surprise that I had, one that I was quite happy with, that I was happy she won, but I was kind of like, wow, I was not expecting that, and that was Amy Madigan winning for Weapons. Weapons only got nominated for one Oscar and it walked away with it, which is incredible.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

Yeah, um people were saying, um I wanna uh g give a shout out to the the awards contender on you YouTube, a guy um I've gotten into in the past uh year or so. Like, um really great, like like love his uh content, but you know, he uh kept saying, you know, um it's very hard in the history to like win when you're the only nomination um for your film. Right. Um the track record isn't great. But um yeah, like once she had gotten the actor award, formerly the SAG award, um I was like, I think she can do it. And it was what forty years after her only other nomination.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

God, that's incredible. And for a horror film, by the way. Which my god, can we build a time machine so we can go get Tony Collette her fucking Oscar nomination for hereditary? Can we please make this happen? This this was a great year for oh, sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

Well, I mean, I I was j just gonna say so everybody uh knows Brandon and I are very big horror fans. Um and um yeah, I I was like thinking back, um, you know, it has it's actually happened, I guess, more than I had thought, like The Exorcist, um, Silence of the Lambs, those, but it's like it's just so weird because like, alright, for for example, I rewatched uh Ready or not the other movie.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Oh very nice, wonderful movie.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

And like Samara Weaving, amazing. Like those sounds she makes in that movie, it's like, how the hell? Like, like, and it's like I don't I politics are always gonna play a part in like the Oscars and everything, and it's like I don't know. I'm just um like it's like, oh, this is too wild, like this is too like crazy to get like a nomination or whatever. But it's like, yeah, uh I know you love Tony Collette and Hereditary. I was big on L Lapita Niango and Us. Yeah. Like that was like I think my like top performance fr from that year, and I thought she could sneak in. I feel like that was like a Tony Collette um where like I don't think it was the the same year, I think they were a year apart. I believe so. But I feel like both of them were like very close.

SPEAKER_00 32:04

Um yeah, I mean there are these amazing horror performances. This is gonna throw it back a little bit, but uh Jennifer Carpenter, uh The Exorcism of Emily Rose, a movie that I think did just so so, but I think she's incredible in that. Like, as you said, like with Samara Weaving, the voices that Jennifer makes in that movie are just so haunting and horrifying that like you know, you just wish that people gave a shit about horror at the Oscars, but this year they kind of did. Going with Amy Madigan for weapons and Sinners being just the powerhouse that it was. And I know some people can argue Sinners isn't traditional horror, that it's more action horror or, you know, whatever, but it's still horror. And I think it's a step in the right direction.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

I guess that is like another thing, right? Like, um I have it's funny because I don't think of sinners as like horror, but it is, right? Like it's a vampire movie. Um but it's like, yeah, like like it's not like Scream, um, it's not, you know. Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Texas Chainsaw.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

Um Well, I we've had this conversation off-mic before of I think I looked up, you know, Bez horror films, and one of them that's on there is Jaws, and you don't consider Jaws a horror film, correct?

SPEAKER_01 33:27

I like I I get it. Um I don't know. You know, it's like what do we say? Like, film is subjective. Like, I mean, it's like, oh, here we go, is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Like we'll save that for a Christmas episode. Yeah, it's like um, you know, but it's the the uh same thing, but it's like, you know, I guess Alien is a horror film. I mean, Jaws, you know, it's kind of like a monster movie, right? I mean, yeah, like um, so yeah, I mean I I I guess I just that isn't what I jump to. Um and it's like they don't they don't really scare me, but I mean there are like a lot of horror movies that I love that you know don't really sare scare me necessarily. I mean The Exorcist doesn't really scare me, but I consider that a horror movie. So so it's like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 34:30

Well we'll definitely have to uh table this topic for Halloween, I think, because I think we have a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Yeah, yeah, we we can definitely like we have some some topics that we can definitely devote episodes to.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Uh but for now, I I kind of want to jump back into some thoughts uh about Sinners. Uh Sinners was probably my number one movie of the year. I absolutely loved it. I've seen some people have weird backlash against it or say that it's overrated, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. That happens with every movie that someone likes, you know. So we're not gonna worry about that or just dwell on that. I really just wanted to shout out Ryan Kugler for finally getting an award he won for best uh original screenplay, which was amazing. He and Michael B. Jordan both walked away with Oscars that night, and man, is that just the best movie couple right now? Like they are just the best power dynamic. I mean, Fruitvale Station years and years and years ago, we can jump ahead to Black Panther, which was obviously a massive hit, you know, uh outpacing almost every other Marvel film. I think the only one that beat it was Endgame, probably. And then of course, here with Centers, which is just fantastic. Uh, I kind of going back to um uh Autumn winning for best cinematography, that scene in the barn where they do the music is without a doubt one of the coolest scenes I've seen in my life. It is so beautiful. And to me, as we talked at the top of the show about art being art and art being loved and respected, that's how you do it. Where you have all of these different kinds of art forms from the past, the present, and the future, and what what kind of power it has, that's truly a magical moment in cinema. It was phenomenal, and I will never shut up about that scene. It's so good.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Yeah, I mean, I I think it's uh like you I don't know if I can say, you know, one of the greatest of all time, but possibly. Um you know, it's definitely the best scene uh of the year. Um like I can't really think of uh a scene in recent memory that was as cool as that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

Um it's wonderful.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

I I watched the movie with with my uh dad. He loved that uh scene, and you know, my my my dad is not a big like uh rap fan. And um, you know, it's just like how it just cuts through like you know, yeah, the evolution of like black culture and music and stuff. It's just oh man, it's it's so so cool.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

And during the live performance at the Oscars of I Lied to You, they brought up Misty Copeland, who is a very, very well-known ballet dancer, which was just another nice moment of fuck yeah, art, you know.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

I I had like been like s seeing her like l like uh pictures from like the award ceremony and everything. Um it's like, yeah, I didn't know who who she was. I wonder if they uh did that as like another fuck you to Timmy.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

It it might have been. I mean, who knows? I I kind of want to re-watch Sinners because like I don't remember clocking her in the movie. So I was like, is she in there? And I just didn't know it, or did they be or were they like, we should just add her in this as like a hey. Not only is art is important, but black art, black artists need to be heard.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

Yeah, they they like did that with uh some of the other artists like per performing it. Um like they weren't uh in the the movie. Um I was glad that uh buddy guy got in there and ca 'cause like w when he was out there, I was like, are they not gonna put a guitar in his hand? And then I think, you know, he was playing. Um and um oh the the uh big guy, um I think his name's like Kingfish or or something. Um he's like uh a really great good guitarist.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

I'm trying to remember, I think was Thundercat there? I could be wrong and you double check that.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

Thundercat could have been there too.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

Yeah, it I mean I I can talk about Sinners forever just because it really was one of my favorites, and I I was I mean it came out early in the year too, so I was shocked that it still held that momentum to get all this Oscar love.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

One one thing I really loved, um, because like after I watched it well like during like while I was watching it for the first time, I I think I had texted you about like like the uh script. So I just like that was that was one one of my favorite scripts from fr from the uh year and like just like the dialogue and that Kugelers like grabbing from like old classic like the use of coups and like just like killed me and like um yeah, like like I I was like oh man the the script is so so great and like gosh it that is like such a heartwarming thing. Um Michael B. Jordan, like when I was thinking about he's been in every single one of Ryan Kugler's films.

SPEAKER_00 40:22

I believe so.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

I I believe, and like for them to like get one together is just really sweet.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

Oh yeah, perfect like story.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

I don't I don't know if um Michael B. Jordan like in that was like my my favorite per performance uh of the the year, but it goes back to I have no issue with him winning. Right. Like, I mean he's playing two characters and like I was like thinking about it and I'm like the way he's like I wonder if Ryan like stood in for him like when they were like so like Michael could like talk to Ryan someone he um probably bounces well off of anyway to have that actual Yeah because it's like like Michael B. Jordan is not a twin. It's like they're both him, but it's like and also like the I want to give a shout out to the visual effects and that. Oh yeah like I don't really know exactly like if they're to credit for that. Um I'm sure some editing like comes into play, some of Autumn's work probably comes into play there. Like it's really a team effort there, but like it's just seamless. Like I because like back in the day you you could like kind of like tell, like, okay, like you you can like see some glitches, I guess how they're trying to like mash it up. Right. But like you don't see that at all. Like it's like it's crazy how well that works and that.

SPEAKER_00 42:09

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Um but yeah, it's just uh it's a really amazing film. Um do you uh did you come up with like uh a top five of the year or anything?

SPEAKER_00 42:28

So based out of strictly these Oscars, I mean Weapons was in one of my top of the year as well, and obviously it only got the one nomination. Um but specifically looking at the best picture for this, I believe my top five was Sinners at number one. I actually had Hamnet as number two. I I could talk about the movie, and we will because I want to just say Jesse Buckley. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

She's so adorable. Broke my heart.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

I love her, absolutely broke my heart in that movie. Her and Rose Byrne were two that I was like, I don't know who wins it between these two. I I went with Jesse, but I again would have been just as happy if if Rose won because if I had legs, I'd kick you is a very unique movie, and she's a powerhouse in it. She's so good.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

Hell, if Emma Stone hadn't won two B four, I mean Yeah, she she could have won that.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

Like she's very good in it. And uh what's it has it? Bagonia. Um I I kind of wish Jesse Plemens got like a Dark Horse nomination, just because I would not have been upset by that at all. Yeah, he wouldn't have won by any means, but I would have loved if he just got the recognition 'cause I I do like him in it.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Did did you notice when Michael B. was uh leaving the the stage how he pointed to uh Jesse? No. Yeah, that that was really sweet 'cause they were on Friday night lights together. Oh my god, I didn't know that. And uh

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Yeah, that that was really, really cool. I I love when actors support actors or you know, everyone supports each other, because even when uh Amy Madigan won, the first person up was Taylor, who who I thought would have won for one battle after another. If you go back and watch Amy Madigan's win, Tiana Taylor is I was very, very happy with that. Yes, so happy for Amy.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Because like Tiana's still like fairly new to like the Hollywood scene, and like I was like, this could go either way. She could be upset, but but yeah, she was like, she was just so happy to like be there and everything, and she got the the golden globe, so she got something.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

Her career is gonna be fine. She was wonderful in one battle after another. I actually I want to talk about her really quickly. I I know your question was top five, but I feel like we're we're bouncing all over the place. Um I I want to say, because I remember watching her performance and really liking her in one battle after another and being very shocked that she's only in it for a very, very short time. Like, I remember thinking that she was gonna be in it for I just assumed for some reason she was gonna be in it for uh most of the movie. She's gone, what, 35-40 minutes into the movie and does not come back for the rest of that runtime, and it's almost a push- it's kind of pushing three hours if I recall correct, or maybe it's like that 2.30 mark. Um and I remember reading some articles saying, like, well, why was she nominated? She was barely in it, and I saw one of the greatest kind of encapsulations of why she was nominated, and it's like it basically said, because when she's gone, all you can think for the longest time is when is she coming back? I want to see more of her. And I really love that. It's that kind of leave them wanting more take because she was so just captivating and just fun to watch in just that short amount of time that you're like, I want to know where this character goes, but then she's just gone. And I kind of think that's a cool way to think of sometimes these supporting roles, like even what Anthony Hopkins for Signs of the Lambs, doesn't he only have yeah, it doesn't only have like 14 minutes? Am I like it's wrong?

SPEAKER_01 46:11

I believe he's in it a little over 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

Yeah, it's not a lot, but you think of him when you think about it.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

I mean Hannibal Lecter. Yeah, that uh character.

SPEAKER_00 46:22

And I I think you're gonna get the same thing with Tiana's character where you're gonna when you think of this movie, you're gonna think of that opening few minutes with her interacting with Sean Penn. Like that's what you're gonna think of. Yep. Um cool year for movies.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

Uh speaking of Sha Sean Penn, um, you know, I I picked Delroy Lindo um to win. I I thought that they were gonna give it to him. Um, but I think Sean Penn was the best per performance in the category. Um maybe my my favorite performance of his. It it probably is. I mean, he's great in milk.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

It's one of the weirdest performances I've ever seen by Sean Penn.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

Right? Like, like it's just like his walk in that movie is just like, I'm like, what the hell is he doing?

SPEAKER_00 47:17

I am so glad I didn't watch that movie with any of my loved ones because I don't know how I would be able to like explain. When when he walks up behind Leonardo DiCaprio and just goes, I love black women. I'm just like, Alright, man. You do you. Like, like it was both threatening and also really racist sounding. Like it it Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:41

I mean, it it's clearly like like yeah, I mean, you know, racism is a big thing in that movie. And um yeah, it's just and like that is like one of those things it's like that that you question um about w one battle is uh Tiana's relationship with Sean Penn and that I mean like at first I was like, oh, she didn't, you know, care about him. But I mean I it seems like, you know, she had a thing for him.

SPEAKER_00 48:11

Yeah, is it is it that she's playing him to try to get the advantage? Is she that much of a uh extremist where she's gonna manipulate him for her benefit? W or is she kind of fine with it? Like it's it's it makes you want to rewatch it and really dissect dissect that performance more. It's it's just a fascinating topic. Because as far as like a lot of times when you see racism in movie, it's very part in the pun black and white, where it's very direct, where it's like someone saying racial slurs, and you go, Okay, that guy's a racist. But when you have someone who is claiming they are sexually attracted to someone of a different race while also really despising them, it does touch on that subject you don't hear as much about, which is the fetish the fetishization, I can't even say the word, just fetishizing someone. Like saying I want to have sex with someone of a different race does not make you from not being a racist. And I think that's a really nice, subtle take that you don't really see a whole lot in movies. Usually it's very like, you know, I'm a clan member, and no one no one clipped that out of context.

SPEAKER_01 49:22

That is gonna start an amount of episode now. Welcome to the mostly a film podcast. I'm a clan great, now I said it. Now we both said it. My podcast gave over what happened? What's going on?

SPEAKER_00 49:37

But I I do think that's a really nice, subtle thing. Because I I do know people, I've literally heard people be like, I'm not racist, I masturbate to black porn. I'm like, well, that doesn't mean anything else, so why are you telling me that? I'm just trying to do good. I'm working at Coles right now. Why are you telling me that, sir? But I I think that's a really cool, uh, subtle knob that PTA, Pa Paul Thomas Anderson, did. And I think it's time to talk about some PTA because 14 Oscar nominations finally gets his first win, and ends up technically winning three of them with Best Directing, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Picture. An amazing night for Paul Thomas Anderson, and so well deserved. That is a name that's been around for I mean, what was his first one for? Boogie Nights, probably.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

Like, I mean, it it's his first nominations came for Boogie Knights. I believe that was his second film. I s I I I believe Hard Eight is his first film, which I still haven't seen. That one's the only one I haven't seen.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

But you know, Licorice Pizza, um, Phantom Thread. Man has been putting out movies that have been getting him nomination after nomination and just he said it best, you guys really make a guy work for this, I believe was his line. Very funny. Yeah. Very funny line.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

Um yeah, he was very overdue. Um yeah, w one of my favorites. Um you know, I think about like directors now who I get excited for their uh next film. David Fenture is one, um, Tarantino, of course, and you know, Paul Paul Thomas Anderson is in there for for sure. Um And yeah, it's like sometimes, you know, people get them, you know, they like say for the wrong movie. Um, you know, it's just like, oh, it's his time. Let let's get it.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Jeff Bridges winning for Crazy Heart.

SPEAKER_01 51:43

Yep, that is a good example. It definitely happens in the acting categories um a lot, but like this this film very well deserved, I think, my my number one of the year that Sinners and the the secret agent are very close for for me. Um But yeah, this is one one of my favorites of his. Um it's up there with Phantom Thread for for me, I think.

SPEAKER_00 52:13

Um yeah, it's it's like you said, it is nice when it doesn't feel like a about time award. Because sometimes that does happen and it does kind of make you go, oh man, like should have won for this or that. Yeah. So it is nice because I I did love one battle after another. I found I think one thing I really was surprised by it was the pacing. I remember watching it and being like, oh my god, this movie's almost over, and it's it's long. It's not a short movie, but it it just clips along. And I think, especially now when I I admittedly my attention span is getting worse. I like to pretend that like I'm a sophisticate, I read a book once some like one time, you know. But like, yeah, no, I'm I'm the same way where like if a movie starts to lull, I I my brain goes, Oh, what's on my phone? You know, like it's so easy and it's embarrassing to say out loud, but the fact that one battle after another being nearly three hours and I'm just locked in, I mean uh quite a few movies did that. Hamnet and uh Sinners were both movies that I was just stuck to. Like I I did not look away.

SPEAKER_01 53:21

Yeah, and I I do like I I didn't really think think about this, but um I think uh the the credit really needs to go, I guess, to the editing of one one battle. Um you know, that that helps with the apace. It's like nothing's really wasted there and the flow is just great. Um and yeah, it made me think, oh, you know, these movies that really do like fly fly by that are longer, um yeah, you know, the editing and the uh direction are both um you know hand in hand there. And you know, it did win best editing. Um very well deserved. Absolutely. Um so yeah, that that is a really good point. And um, yeah, we we can talk about Hamnet.

SPEAKER_00 54:17

Um Yes please.

SPEAKER_01 54:20

Uh yeah, let like I've loved Jesse Buckley now for you know, she hasn't been around for very long, but I've loved her, you know, ever since I I saw her. And um women talking I thought she really deserved a nomination for Yes.

SPEAKER_00 54:39

I remember you telling me how much you loved women talking, like that was Yeah, like that was just great.

SPEAKER_01 54:45

Her and Claire Foy in that both are um great, but um yeah, it it it was like her her Oscar's coming soon. Um and yeah, this so when I was thinking about her and Rose Byrne, it it it's like I guess um I don't know, may maybe I'm wrong in saying this, but I but I feel like Jesse has to do a lot internally, um where like Roseburn like this doesn't take away like from the performance at all, but I feel like Roseburn's more hers is more out there for us to see, whereas Jesse has to internalize a lot, being a mother who like loses a child and everything. And I mean she does have like some you know crazy like moments that are out there just like breaking down.

SPEAKER_00 55:38

Yeah, her weeping over her son is just so brutal to watch, and then she has to have that kind of contempt for her husband who wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01 55:50

Like Yeah. I I think you know, going back to the I Lied to You scene in Sinners, um like the end scene of Hamnet is right up there, like for for for me, probably my my number two uh of the the year, just like re-re-creating like like the globe and everything, and um just like Jessie watching that like is just it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 56:21

Getting a chance to kind of in a way say goodbye to her son again and god it I'm trying not to like break down, it's it's really moving. It's and it almost feels like it could have been so hokey because there was a moment where she, of course, reaches out to him on stage and he the you know the actor playing Hamlet reaches back and I feel like there are so many other directors that could have messed that up. And so this is a absolute masterclass by Chloe. Uh Chloe, uh I don't want to mispronounce her last name. Chloe Zhao. Is it Zhao? Okay, perfect. That's that was my guess, but I didn't want to be incorrect there. Uh which, of course, for those who don't know, I believe she won for Nomad Land. So she is an Oscar-winning director already. But that scene is absolutely stunning. And it's funny because even before that, you can kind of get a little bit of like dark laughter where she's constantly like talking and people around her are kind of like shushing her. Like being like, hey, a play's on, you know, knock it off. And then she, you know, it's it's such a delicate balance that I thought if this wins best picture, I will be pretty happy. I know a lot of people will be very upset, maybe the same way like when Shakespeare and Love won over Saving Private Ryan, where a lot of people got furious, even though you know Shakespeare and Love is a fine movie, like it's not like it's an awful film by any means. So uh yeah, Jesse Buckley in it is absolutely wonderful. Um, and I I could absolutely watch that movie so frequently, but also I'm biased because I'm a you know theater kid, so I love theater and Shakespeare.

SPEAKER_01 58:15

I feel like us coming from from theater, um like you know, I thought it was cool how the audience was reacting um in uh the end. It's like, and I wonder if that's how uh you know people were back in the day. You know, like this was their movies and like just like seeing these things and not really understanding. Um because I mean like like Shakespeare, you know, this is like he's not as well well known then.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

Right, he's not Shakespeare like we know Shakespeare to them. He was just like some guy's like, yeah, he's he's written a couple cool things, that's cool.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

Yeah, and I I I thought that was really cool how like you know, because you don't know like like how accurate, you know, this is this film is based off of a book that um Maggie O'Farrell wrote. And um but it's like this really cool idea. I mean, maybe, you know, there is some some truth to it, and like I I love how like Shakespeare doesn't know how to handle it. So like this is, you know, and this is him showing his wife You know, like this is how I'm showing This is how I process And it's like he's kinda doing it for her in a way too. Um, like you know, as a tribute to his son and also Yeah, I mean it's just it it is really beautiful how how it comes together. Um and like I I can definitely see like how it wouldn't be for everyone. Like y you know, those romantic movies like like they're they're not going to to be, but um yeah, I I loved it. I I thought s the s cinematography's gorgeous, I wouldn't have been upset that it gotten a nomination.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:19

Um a little surprising. Train Dreams got, I think, the nomination for cinematography, which I thought was also well deserved, because that movie's got some gorgeous, gorgeous scenes.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:32

Yeah, like like when they r were were were showing the nomination package um again, I was like, man, if Train Dreams wins, I can't really argue. Can't be mad. Can't be mad.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:45

That movie ruined my day. It is real quite depressing. That movie's the most real movie I've seen. And boy. Turns out reality kind of a bummer. Uh we have probably a little bit of a few minutes left. Uh one thing I would do want to talk about uh was I was sort of shocked Marty Supreme, nine nominations, zero wins. How do you feel about that? Do you think it should have won, or is it kind of the same thing of, you know, if it did, great, if it didn't, who cares?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

Yeah, I mean, I uh I would probably put it in like my my top five. Um d did uh what uh best picture movies did you you not see?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:27

Did did you not get around uh uh I did not see F1, uh I did not see Sentimental Value or Secret Agent, unfortunately. I I was not able to make those happen right away. I've only heard beautiful things about those films. I actually heard F1's pretty fun, but um I just never got around to them, unfortunately. I still plan on watching them, but once it kind of became clear, I was like, okay, it's not gonna win probably much, if anything, that I was like, I'll get to it as soon as I can. So I wanted to try to make priority for the movies that I thought would probably get a bit more.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

Yeah, so I I loved F1. Um, it's uh r really great. I think I had and uh sentimental value I think is like close there and might might be like my my six. I think Marty Su Supreme snuck into my top five. Um I like it is one of those that I definitely would have been cool if it had won. Um you know, Timmy's great in it. Um, you know, if he had won, cool. Um I don't know, you know, because he was like campaigning hard, like, hey, uh I I should get this Oscar. And I mean maybe it has, you know, rubbed some people the wrong way.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:55

Wouldn't it be surprised if that one one little flub costed like I kind of wouldn't be surprised.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:02

Michael B seems like an awesome dude, um, very humble. Um, it was great, you know, when he won. Like, hey mama, like brought his mom like uh look at me, mom, like that that was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

Yeah, you love to see that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:22

You know, so Marty S Supreme, a great movie. Um, very well, well made. The uh character, Marty Mauser, I hate him, like he's such a hateable character. Um, but it's a very well well made movie that makes up for the character being so awful.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:45

Yeah. I mean, there's always been movies where there are unlikable characters. I remember Flight being one of the last big ones I remember where Denzel Washington is just the worst in it, you know. His is uh the worst character. He he was obviously phenomenal and well acted, but like sometimes that's okay when a movie has a very unlikable person with really no arc to become better. Because sometimes people are just miserable people from start to end.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

Yeah, and I mean I feel like when it is that uh case, you know, you need to like build around it, and it is like like the editing's f phenomenal, the cast is really great. Um it's such a weird cast, which I love. Like Tyler the creator's in it. Yeah, why is Tyler the creator in it? Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:40

Um, like uh yeah, it's just uh the cast we were all just begging for.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

Abel Ferreira, uh well-known director, um, is in it. Like, like it's such uh yeah, it's so weird.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:56

Yeah. Um yeah, and I I did like Marty Supreme as well quite a bit. In fact, I think I was kind of thinking it was gonna win original screenplay. That was in my head, it was either that or Timothy was probably their best shot in award that night, and once they didn't get either of those, I it was clear as like it's it's gonna get swept, like it's not gonna get a thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:19

Yeah, and um, you know, that that was another thing, like centers set the the the record for most Oscar nominations. Did it really? So my yeah, 16. Wow. It uh the old record was it was for 15. No, no. Um Color Purple might have the record for most without a single win.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:44

Yeah, because Color Purple had 11 Oscar nominations, zero wins. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

Yeah, so La La Land, I believe, Titanic, and there's one more. All about Eve, maybe? Um were were tied for the record with fourteen and centers just broke it with sixteen. So I was wondering like, hey, this set the record, how many awards are they going to give to it? Because they clearly loved it and it got four. Um set second most to uh one battle. Um one battle, which got six, I believe. Correct. Um so yeah, um it's tough, man. It's tough to win those awards so it it's Yeah and like you know s sometimes I mean it is like, you know, a nomination is like with how many films come out a year.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:42

It's like sometimes like it is like like you know everyone's like, oh I'm shocked this didn't win. But it's like sometimes the nomination is the the win.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:51

So yeah it's I know it's like a cliche to say like I'm just happy to be nominated but like at the same time I'm sure they are just happy to be nominated just because it is insanely difficult to you know actually win an award. Because I I kind of remember I wanna I'm looking it up right now. Yeah Everything Everywhere all at once won seven and it looks like it was nominated for ten. So like that was probably the last really big like almost winning everything it was nominated for and it's just so difficult for a movie to do that to get, you know, ten plus nominations and walk away with eighty percent of your awards.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:32

Yeah I mean so that that is the the thing, yeah. Um just because a film's getting a l a ton of nominations doesn't mean it's gonna win.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

Um yeah I think like the equivalent for like theater would be most recently Hamilton winning all the basically everything that it was nominated for except like maybe a couple because I believe the producer still holds the record for most Tony wins. But I mean it's it's I think so. Yeah weird right last thoughts anything that you really want to talk about I feel like we could talk about the Oscars for god easily another hour. There's so many other fun storylines to pull from but we're running a little long on time here so any last thoughts?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:17

Um I just want to say yeah yeah the uh films we we didn't talk about and like the uh categories like like we uh said in the b beginning I mean like this is like one of those years where like all the best picture nominees I enjoyed um to a a great deal. Yeah um strong strong and like that that you know it was a very strong year for uh film and um yeah so just cause we didn't talk about them doesn't mean uh they aren't great movies it's just yeah I mean more stood out than others but um yeah if you're you're curious I I can't say you know avoid any of the best picture nominees you should definitely seek all of them out especially the uh secret agent which is at this moment streaming on Hulu hey alright br Brazilian film um definitely suggest checking that one out I still have to watch it again um I've only seen it once but uh yeah it was definitely in my top five um and also shout out to all of the other awards we didn't really get to talk about too much like costume design makeup hair uh documentary just I mean I unfortunately was unable to see any of the documentary films they just didn't play around my area uh which is a shame I I wish I lived in a more um film city but I don't uh but they all looked phenomenal and a big win for Mr. Nobody against Putin which looked incredibly dangerous to make and again I we you know didn't get to talk about them at all today but your accomplishments were warranted so congratulations to everyone nominated everyone who won anyone who wasn't nominated this was a great year for movies we'll have to do actually like a full like 2025 recap maybe soon because that could be pretty interesting to go into maybe I'll catch up on some of these other ones that I didn't get to yeah I'd definitely be be down for for that we have a lot of topics that you know we can uh go over and that we've planned on so we have a lot of future episodes that we want to make so definitely be on the lookout for for that absolutely well thank you all for listening I've been Brandon with me as always is Ricky this has been a mostly filmed podcast now go watch the movies bye