IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, and Letterboxd! Oh my!

Ricky and Brandon discuss online movie review sites. What is their value? Should they be taken seriously? And why is the IMDB Top 250 so insane?

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Please grab your popcorn with hand and large photo because it's time for a mostly film podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of a motely film podcast. We are the lovers of lists, the researchers of rankings, the criticizers of critics. My name is Brandon, and with me, as always, is Ricky. Ricky, how are you today?

SPEAKER_03 0:38

I'm doing pretty well, Brandon. How are you doing today?

SPEAKER_01 0:42

I'm doing quite well. I'm in a giggly mood because we were just telling uh fun stories off mic that uh are very silly. And sorry, audience, you're not gonna be able to hear them unless you pay for Ricky's uh go pay his OnlyFans. You can pay for Ricky's OnlyFans where we'll have all of our hilarious stories just tattooed on his taint.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

Man, I really wish like um I don't really totally know how OnlyFans works, but if it was like just like sure Ricky. Like I haven't been on it in a couple minutes.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

But um, yeah, so they changed their turf and services four minutes ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

I am not a fan of this. I'm gonna have to talk to Bill, my regular guy. Bill, Bill, Bill. But um, it's like if they like had like thumbnails or or whatever mine would just be like thumbs up. Like, what's up, man? Ready to see my taint.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Uh, this this is another perfect uh not film discussion to start off. I love it. You lost me. Film? I'm here for taint talk.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Ooh, now that sounds professional. It's another episode of Taint Talk here.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Welcome to Taint Talk. Uh, you can probably tell from the sound of my voice, but I am wearing a turtleneck and a turtleneck around my taint. We keep it classy here at Taint Talk.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

You're gonna have to speak up. I'm wearing a towel. Ricky, what is our episode about today besides Taints? Taints, and uh, there's this new site I've uh come across. I believe it's MDibd. However you pronounce it. Yeah. Um but uh yeah, it might be a big thing one day.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Yeah, you know what? I I got my fingers crossed for her. We're yeah, we are gonna be talking about IMDB, probably some Rotten Tomatoes, even some letterboxed, because that's probably the most uh popular one right now with the youngins, the young movie kids love letterboxed.

SPEAKER_03 2:45

Yeah, I um I still have never really gotten into uh let letterboxed, but I realized like that is like the the new thing. It seems like everyone uses l letterbox now, probably more than uh IMDB. But like, you know, I've rated over 3,000 movies on all on IMDB, so it's like, alright, I can't start over.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

I'm not switching up. No, I've I've told that to all my friends that are like, you need to make a letterbox, it's so much cooler than IMDB. And the exact same thing I said, like, I I don't want to start a brand new list, and I don't want to spend the hours it's gonna take for me to review every movie I've already ranked and reviewed on IMDb. I'm not doing it again. Uh it's funny, comparing the three of them, so like Rotten Tomatoes is probably the most quote unquote professional one, and that like most of the reviews you see are from critics, from papers or news outlets or online resources. Although they do have what, like the audience score, can I guess they can jump into.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

I feel like the audience score is fairly new. Like like it's only been around like a couple years, I feel like. Yeah. Because like back in the day it was just, you know, like the critics' scores and stuff. But like now it's like they add in both.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Yeah, and and like IMDB is strictly for audience members. Same with Letterboxd, but I think the major difference between those two is IMDb was definitely around when people were all trying to be like critics and reviewers. So that was just an outlet for them. Where Letterboxd, I think if you look up any movie, the top reviews are always just like a one-line joke, kind of like a memey line, and that's it. So it seems like it's less movie review. I don't know, there might be some people on there. Maybe you can need to follow the right people or whatever, but I feel like that's sort of the that audience is supposed to be more about like do your funny one line and have people thumbs up your comment as opposed to being like an actual review or take on the movie.

SPEAKER_03 4:48

Yeah, and I think like I guess I think you you you can do it with IMDB where like you you can make your profile like public. But um I think uh letterboxed is like um like I've heard, I guess like maybe like celebrities can like share like their list or something, or like post their like list, or like so like it's more social media basically.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

I I also am laughing because like I'm not trying to dismiss letterbox or sound elitist or better than I I can't in good conscience do that, seeing how we started this episode talking about taints. So hard for us to be snobby or raise our noses to letterbox. Go on. I would like to hear more about this taint. Uh actually, before we get too deep into IMDB, I want to talk some quick movie news. Ricky, did you see the Resident Evil trailer? I did. I was crazy. What did you think? Yeah, I thought it looked good. It looked creepy. Yeah. I'm a big fan of Zack Krager, so I'll watch anything he directs.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

Yeah, and like it seems I don't know what to like compare it to, um, but it seems very much like it's like his own original take, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Um It's what it seems like, which might be the best method not to get too deep into the Resident Evil lore, just because video game movies, man, do they always kinda suck because they don't know how to pull the stories.

SPEAKER_03 6:28

You know, yeah, and we have um we'll we'll probably do a video game specific episode, like um, probably around when Street Fighter comes out, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Oh hell yeah, I got some thoughts for that already.

SPEAKER_03 6:41

But but um yeah, I've still never seen any of the Resident Evil.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

Um like the Mila Joe Jove that she's at? She's in like all of them.

SPEAKER_03 6:51

Yeah, I I don't think she's in l like the last one, which was like Raccoon City or something. And I had like started watching that, but I didn't stick with it.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

I mean they must have done something right. They were getting that many sequels, so maybe they were at least getting decent box office numbers. I don't think I know anyone who likes them. Yeah, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

Yeah, and I think the reviews were were pretty bad. But yeah, I guess they they made some sort of money.

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Um Actu I'm sorry, finish up finish if you thought about resident evil because I wanted to touch on something we brought up a couple episodes ago.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

Um yeah, I'm just like I'm I'm very intrigued and like, you know, with um bar barbarian and weapons. It's like I have a whole lot of trust in him, so it's like I'm on board with whatever he's trying to do.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

Yeah, like I mean weapons and barbarian are both very horrifying in some spots and also very funny in others, and purposefully so, like he just knows how to balance both of those incredibly, incredibly well. Were you ever a Whitest Kids You Know fan? Did you ever watch his sketch group?

SPEAKER_03 8:00

No, um, you and another friend had like um would always like bring it up to me. And so like I've seen like like some sketches, um, but I've never I I was never really super into them. The uh sketches I've seen are good.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

There there's a skit that he does that people if you go to the YouTube comments, all they say is just, uh, the director of weapons, everybody. Because the the skit is him playing a director and he's like directing a really horrific like murder cop movie, and he's going up to the actors and he's like, Yeah, this is really good. You guys are in the moment, but I need you all to say these lines happier and with your mouth open. And they're just like, What? And so they're just like, so the body got murdered by the strange husband. Oh, that's pretty bad. He just keeps cutting them off, like, good, you're getting there. I want it happier, but with your mouth open. And just keeps doing that. And so the skit just ends with the two actors just going like, ah. I backed so far away from the mic, and it's still peeping like crazy. That's gonna be fun to edit later. So I highly recommend that skit. I mean, I recommend all their skits, they're very silly and fun. Some, of course, are dated, it's 2000s, like edgy humor, but you know, comedy's comedy. It it it ages, and you just have to, you know, understand that some things might be a bit uncouth.

SPEAKER_04 9:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

But yeah, I I 100% want to see the Resident Evil movie. I I trust Zack Krager immensely as a horror director.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

Yeah, for for sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

Uh another thing I wanted to touch on really fast. Uh we we 100% called it back in our biopics episode, Michael has come out, and uh we nailed it to a T. Apparently, it's insanely formulaic. Uh the critics despise it because it's so boring and formulaic and it made lots of money, and the audiences think it's the best movie ever made. We called it 2A T, man.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Yeah, like um tons of people like let like I've had my uh co-workers tell me they uh loved it. Like Yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean, like everyone's uh pretty much enjoyed it, and like one of my co-workers like keeps like acting like Michael Jackson to me. He like did it today. He like came in the uh back room and did it to me.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

And um like he was just going like just doing that.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

He like did the uh kick and stuff, and he was like, I didn't realize I was gonna be that close to you, and I was like, dude, you like you you you couldn't back out at at that that point.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

So the ghost got him. The ghost of Michael Jackson possessed him.

SPEAKER_03 10:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Yeah. I was watching some interviews with some of the actors, and I I can't I wish I could remember what outlet it was, because props to them, because they were like, so about the allegations, and they were just like, you know, we we don't really touch into this movie. Maybe, maybe in a sequel we'll discuss like they'll go into this. Like they dodged it so, so hard. Um, and uh by the way, no, they will never make a sequel that will address those allegations.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

Yeah, but like like that is what my uh co-worker w was telling me, and I was like, dude, I don't think they ever will, like no.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

No, no, oh man, yeah. So I just wanted to bring that up because we kind of nailed that prediction. It was the easiest prediction we could have made. I don't think there was any doubt in our minds that it was gonna be anything different, but yeah, I thought it was very funny that the audience was like, greatest movie ever, and I think Rotten Tomatoes had it at like a 14 or something at one point.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

Yeah, I think the last time I saw it was like 20 something.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Ooh, it's improving.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

Yeah. Still not great.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

But as we're on the subject of reviews and people's opinions, let's talk about our today's subject, which is IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, basically online criticisms, optimism. Uh, do you think IMDB is a good metric for rating? Do you how like I guess my question to you would be how often do you watch a movie go, this is like a nine or an eight or whatever, and you're kind of on par with IMDB? Or do you think you're more outside their ratings?

SPEAKER_03 12:28

I feel like for the most part I'm around there. But um. Like, cause but it's like I'm not going off of IMDB. Like, like, um I I don't know, it's like I made a list. The way I went about it was like I looked at the top 250 and I was like Oh, we're gonna talk about the top 250. But I was like, so like these are like the ones that I don't really agree with. Um these are films that should be in there, and then it's like these are some of my favorites that are in there. Um But like I I I feel like, you know, when you watch so many movies, there are so many movies out there, it's like I would say for the most part, my taste like matches up. But it's like so when I was looking at it, I was like, okay, I'd I wouldn't put this in the top 250. It's still a good movie. Like I I still like it, but it's like y you know, like top ten, like, you know, it's like that that's a little rich, and I think that is what IMDB can fall into. Sometimes it's like this movie, like in the top 50, like greatest of all time. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Yeah, I I would say when I was looking at IMDB versus like Rotten Tomatoes, uh, or even the Letterboxd uh top 500 films that they have, IMDB had the most um what I would call what? Because there were so many times I'd be scrolling and I would just say out loud, what? Because something was either even on the list or insanely high. I want to start with the very first movie on here. The number one movie on IMDb is the Shawl Shank Redemption. What? It's a great movie. I think it's very, very good. Fun fact, Ron Tomato's best 300 movies of all time, Shawl Shank is not on there at all. It didn't even hit crack the top 300 on that list, and IMDb is like best movie ever made. Ricky, is Shaw Shank the best movie ever made? Or are you on team what?

SPEAKER_03 14:58

I mean, no, it's not the the best movie ever made, but um I won't argue with someone if it's their their favorite movie. Like it's a great, great movie. Yeah. That's fair. I think I've been used to it because it's been the top movie for so long.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

It's not gonna get dethroned.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

On there, like um I think I think when like Dark Knight came out that that like dethroned it for a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

Um for those who do not know, the Dark Knight, number three of best movies of all time. It sure is. I'm looking at it right now. Number three, it goes Shaw Shank, Godfather, Dark Knight, or the top of the two.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

And then Godfather 2.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Then Godfather part. You know what? Let's just read the top ten, and then we'll we'll uh we'll get mad. Um so I will start actually with number 11, because the number 11 is uh Lord of the Rings Two Towers, and the reason I'm saying that is because Fellowship and Return of the King are in the top ten. So that trilogy is loved by these online nerds. Uh number ten. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Okay. Maybe the most iconic Western, I would argue. So sure. Uh number nine, Pulp Fiction. Okay. Uh maybe Quentin Tarantino's probably most known film until like, I don't know, Django or Inglorious Bastards. I I mean I think it's more known than like Reservoir Dogs or Jackie.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

I'd say it's still his best script. Like that just yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

Uh and then Fellowship of the Ring at eight. Uh your movie, Shindler's List, at seven, so alright. Return of the King, Twelve Angry Men, which I I actually kind of love that that's on there because I think it's an amazing script, and I also love the play. Uh Godfather Part 2, Dark Knight, Godfather, and Shawshank Redemption. So of the top ten movies, you know, top 11 movies, three of them are for one franchise, The Lord of the Rings, which, man. I actually I don't know if I told you. I've started watching them. I've watched uh Fellowship and Two Towers for the first time.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

Oh you didn't tell me that you had seen two towers.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Yeah. And they're both good. I like them. I was like, these are fun. I would not keep them in my top ten movies.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

No, um I love re Return of the King the the most. Um I They they hold like like a special place for me because like I still think it's so impressive, like what he was able to do and everything. Um and I definitely r respect the the hell out of them. Um I don't know, it's like it's tough because like uh I always say there are very few like uh films that I will like. It's like people's tastes are uh different. Y you know, and like w with me, I I like to talk about a lot of movies, so I separate I have ten movies that are my favorites, and then I have a separate list that is my greatest films of all time. Yeah, for sure. I love both of them. Both of them are like my my favorites, but it's like I'm just trying to, you know, show love to more, you know, we already have biodem on those lists.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Gosh damn it. I'm gonna bring it up every day. Y'all haunt me forever. Ever since you told me, like, that's my favorite childhood film or whatever, like one of your favorites.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

But is he?

SPEAKER_01 18:45

Well, I I think I brought up in a previous episode that IMDB's demographics were heavily male, heavily like in that 18 to 30 range. They have since removed the demographics. You cannot find them. I was I was trying to pull them up and I couldn't find it. I found threads of people saying, Where did they go? And so they did pull them, but uh, we were able to see an old screenshot where uh that is that was the case at least, that it was very heavily male, uh 18 to 30 range.

SPEAKER_03 19:12

I had uh Googled it because I was wondering about the algorithm, and then it said, you know, cause it's like regular voters, but they won't come out and say what what constitutes a regular voter, because you know, they don't want to like mess with, you know, the integrity I guess, but it's like, well, they can just, you know, who the hell knows what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Like, well, it also like there's people that review bomb things. Like exactly a weird uh online thing that I read about. It was uh fans of Breaking Bad and fans of one of the new Game of Thrones shows. I I'm not sure what it's called, House of the Dragon, maybe. I think is is that one of the spin-offs?

SPEAKER_03 19:53

Yeah, there's like a Kingdoms one that just came out too.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Maybe maybe it's that one. Um so it's whatever the latest Game of Thrones show is, one of their episodes was the highest-rated episode of anything ever. Uh dethroning uh that episode of Breaking Bad, I think it's called Osmandius or whatever. Uh one of the final seasons. Um yeah, I think it's like the pr um penultimate episode, maybe, of Breaking Bad. And Breaking Bad and this other show started review bombing each other's episodes, saying like this is the worst episode just because they wanted their show to have the highest score. I can't even get into that mindset of being that petty over a TV show or a movie to be like, you think that Avengers is better than Dark Knight? Well, I'm gonna go give Dark Knight a one-star review. And you shouldn't give Dark Knight a one because it's higher than your thing. You give it a one because Christopher Nolan directed it. And you saw it coming a mile away.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

Like, so I started like going through the uh top 250, and I was like, damn, Brandon's favorite director is on here a lot.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

Jumping down here, 14, Inception, 18, Interstellar. Uh man, people love Christopher Nolan, and they're wrong. It's and it's cool that they're wrong. I'm glad that they're allowed to be wrong. I think that's what makes movies interesting.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

Every single movie of his is in there.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

I I I honestly think Dunkirk is in here because Dunkirk is in there.

SPEAKER_03 21:24

Isn't uh Insomnia is God, I hate Dunkirk.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

I was so bored by it. But like looking at IMDBs, you see a lot of oh, there's Memento 58. Okay. Um I I like Memento. I'm okay with Memento. It's not my I mean, I guess it's my favorite Christopher Nolan film, but that's not saying a lot. No, Oppenheimer is. I do like Oppenheimer, genuinely like Oppenheimer. So good job, Nolan. You're one for 12. I'm such a fucking hater. Look, actually, let me say something. Before everyone listens to this and go, oh, Brandon's just a uh uh indie hit. Hipster, whatever. I'm gonna say something that's gonna blow your mind about Ricky here. Joker is number 90 on here, which is disgusting. Joker should not be in the top 500 films. It's an awful movie. But Ricky, what do you think about Joker part two?

SPEAKER_03 22:14

Uh, I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

There you go. You know, that is Ricky out hipsters me with that by genuinely liking Joker Part 2 Folia D.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

I actually like that I like it because pretty much everyone hates that. And I'm like, I don't mind it.

unknown 22:29

You know?

SPEAKER_01 22:30

So like I'm not a contrarian hipster because I hate McNolan. Ricky's a contrarian hipster because he loves part due compared to Joker.

SPEAKER_03 22:39

What is funny is, yeah, I think the first Joker is overrated. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

First Joker, first Joker's, like, there's some fun scenes in it, but like, it definitely feels like a weird, like, fetishistic, like, I'm a bad guy. Boo, boo. Like, oh my god. It reminds you know what there was? There was this kid I knew in high school. His name was Brandon. No, I'm not speaking in third person. But he was one of those people that like he would make crazy faces, and he's like, Do I look psychotic to you? And I'm like, no, man. Like, he he's someone who wanted to look so like, whoa, I'm so, I'm freaky, you I'm I'm dangerous. You want to stay away from me. And all I can picture is him just furiously masturbating watching Joker. Because I know he probably loves it, that fucking loser. Fuck you, Brandon. You're ruining my name. How do you really feel? This this is the kind of episode we get when we go more freeform and less lists. Yeah. You get me yelling at old high school people.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

Show us your taint, old Brandon.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

Alright, you got me there. Zip. Um I I did do a fun breakdown of IMDB because I was curious. Because as I as I said, I think a lot of the demographics probably were men from a age like 18 to 30, so I was curious what years are these movies from. So I went through and actually broke it down. We have six movies from the 20s, which you know that's the twenties. I don't expect everyone to see 20s movies. That's fine. Yeah, it's it's Chaplin and Keaton. That's it. There's no things, there's no Janet, yeah. There's no Janet Gaynor, which is ridiculous. Yeah. Um eight from the nineteen thirties, seven from the nineteen forties, and then we get a big jump in the fifties, twenty-one movies from the fifties. So could kind of cool there, and then back down to twelve movies for the sixties, eighteen for the seventies, and then here we go. Eighties, nineties, two thousands, twenty tens, twenty-six in the eighties, thirty-five in the nineties, forty-eight movies from two thousands, forty-four from the twenty tens, and then sixteen from the twenty twenties. This of course that decade's still going on. We are currently in it. But 109 of these movies are from 2000 and later, which definitely skews that IMDB is being used by people that were probably born in the 80s and 90s as opposed to people who maybe grew up or actively watch movies from the 40s, 50s, 60s, or really any other time period. Where if you look at Rotten Tomatoes, the top movies there, I think uh I think there's maybe two in the top 20 that don't have no, there's there's no, yeah, there's only two movies in the the top twenty that have a the year starting with a two. So uh those movies being Parasite and for some reason Top Gun Maverick is the 20th best movie, which that's that's a solid what for me, but did you still no never see it? Uh I know it uh I haven't, so maybe I shouldn't be saying what, but it just doesn't feel correct to me to have Top Gun Maverick be the 20th best movie of all time.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

No, I mean so I've I've told you you this I don't know if you've ever uh looked into it, but the one poll that I love um is the sight and sound greatest films of all time poll. Um and it's they they do it every 10 years. Um so it comes out in uh two like um I think the first one was 52 and then 62, 72, 82, you know, and all that. Um but what it does is they uh critics from all over the world and directors from all over the world, they like send it out a ballot, like give us your top ten greatest films, and then they like do that. Um and they compile the uh list and it's really cool because like these like directors you they're also a able to like make notes of like what they think um and everything. And um, so yeah, that is like the uh best list like for for me personally. Umd DB is very weird because like you like clearly have like you know, I think there are like two Avengers films and like the Atop 100 and stuff. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

That was one of the first things I did was I did you know Control F Avengers and I was like, oh, every single one I think is on the Yes, so like you you have those, um, and then you have like like um Barry Linden's and the A Top 250, one of the greatest films of all time. Um but surprisingly low, if I remember correctly.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

I mean it's like I I'm not hey, it it it makes what you can get, you know. Um the uh the apartments in there. Um they have a lot of foreign films in there. Um it's crazy because I looked and eight and a half isn't in there. I'm like, whoa, that is that is nuts to me. But yeah, it's like a a give and take. Um but like you know, the one thing about the uh sight and sound is like you're not getting like many like popular films. Like the the matrix is in there. Um some people like vote on like Star Wars and everything. Um and then you'll like get like a random director or critic who'll like vote for like Tite Titanic like one or something. It's like yeah. So I mean I I don't know, I feel like there isn't like a perfect like um list that is gonna like mix everything because you know it's no not at all. It's subjective, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Well yeah, like even looking at Rotten Tomatoes, they have quite a few documentaries and pretty high up when I was looking through it. Uh for example, Summer of Soul or When the Revolution could not be televised. That was a really still a Michael J. Fox movie. So like two documentaries that I I can't remember where they were, but I think they're both like in the top 30, even. And like that almost feels weird to compare a documentary to you know, The Godfather or whatever else is probably like considered.

SPEAKER_03 29:11

Yeah, I guess that IMDB, like, they don't include documentaries.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

I don't know if they do or not. Uh because it's hard to detect. I mean, what do you think is the the most prolific documentary of all time? Like, what what do you think we could look up that might theoretically crack that list? Um like I know the Cove was pretty big in the 2000s.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Uh Citizen 4, the uh the Edward Snowden one. Um not on this list. Um Shoah, the Holocaust one. Great. Um gosh. Great Great Gardens, I know, is a popular one.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

By the way, I found Barry Linden, 182.

SPEAKER_03 29:58

Yeah. I mean, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

It's uh fortunately it's just not as good as two spots above it, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows Part 2.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

It's just it Barry Linden's no Harry Potter. I won't listen to the Harry Potter hate on Harry Potter, but um no, of course it's not.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

I feel like I saw the soul leader eyes though for a split second.

SPEAKER_03 30:21

But of course, yeah, uh Barry Linden like belongs in the top ten, but you know.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Whatever. There is a movie on here that I did want to watch because it's the longest movie at six hours and fourteen minutes. I think it's an Italian film called The Best of Youth.

SPEAKER_03 30:46

That one might be um Do you have it where it'll tell you how many um you haven't uh seen?

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Uh I don't think I actually do. I I I mean it'll show me my ratings next to them, but it won't tell me like you need to see like six more movies.

SPEAKER_03 31:07

Yeah, so I've seen 208 of the 250.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

That's very impressive. Does it say that like on your screen itself?

SPEAKER_03 31:15

Yeah, yeah, because I like I I try and rate every movie like like after I watch it just to like it helps. Oh, there we go.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Uh 116 of 250. I haven't even seen half of them, just a little under half.

SPEAKER_03 31:30

Still pretty good though.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Yeah. Um maybe that'll be my next thing is go through all of them. Oh god, do I have to rewatch Christopher Nolan's stuff again?

SPEAKER_03 31:38

You watch and Green Book.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Yeah, Green Book's on there, and boy, as as anyone who's listened to this podcast knows, our favorite movie, and we definitely don't get up and walk away like spikely anytime it's brought up.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

Like, I understand if you like don't know anything about it, um, and like, you know, you like are just like a normal, like, hey, like, this story seems sweet, but if you learn about that movie, uh oh.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

The two things I did not know about us starting this podcast was that we were gonna talk about the Holocaust and then shit on Green Book. The two things that have happened, I think, in every episode.

SPEAKER_03 32:19

We didn't know that we were gonna do that.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

Come on, dude. That's why I have these two tattoos. One says learn about the Holocaust and fuck Green Book. You're you're telling me you had no clue.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Come on, Spike Lee, call me. Call me.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Um can I tell you my favorite IMDB memory?

SPEAKER_03 32:45

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

So when I was younger, maybe in my like late teens, early twenties, I loved IMDB because it was just the best place to read reviews at the time. This was kind of like before there was a lot of like, you know, YouTubers or streamers or whatever making it sounds like I'm talking like I'm fucking talking about smoke signals. I used to send messages by pigeons. Like, no. Uh, this was before, you know, you could just go type in, you know, uh usual suspect review on YouTube and watch 50 people review that movie and they're whacking it away.

SPEAKER_03 33:20

I mean, my my whole thing, I would just read like uh Roger Ebert reviews and then IMDb.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Leonard Moulton, you know, whoever. And and so I would read reviews online and I I became fascinated by it because it is, as you said, everyone has a different opinion, so you just never know who is saying what. And I remember one person, and they stuck with me for so long. Uh, I believe their name was like Chimera 9 or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 33:47

And shout out.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Shout out Chimera, because Chimera was someone who hated every movie and would also put like shitty puns in their title for every review. So it'd be like Titanic would be like, I have a sinking feeling this movie sucks, like stuff like that. Too soon. R.I.P. boat. Uh, or like, you know, this was like Raging Bull would be like, Raging Bull knocked me out with boredom. Like, it was always like shitty things like that. I remember one for Zodiac was just like a bunch of Z's. So it's like Zodiac, like they fell asleep during it, Ricky. Very clever.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

Oh, they might have been the real Zodiac killer.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

It was me the whole time, Chimera 1.

unknown 34:44

Praise.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Um they they hated every single thing. So it was Star Wars, one star, Casablanca, one star, Titanic, one star, Jurassic Park, one star, The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, ten stars. They love that movie so much, and they would just go on and on about how good uh Jason Alexander's performance was in it, in particular, as Boris. And and all I could think was like, is Chimera 1 Jason Alexander? Did we find his IMDB account?

SPEAKER_03 35:20

I wonder if they that they were like serious or if they were literally just like a huge troll.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

I I have no idea. Because like they would could they continue to do other reviews and just kept and went right back to like one star, one star, boring movie, overrated, overrated. The only thing that gave more than a one star was Rocky and Bullwinkle. So I truly hope they are someone that was just like just fucking with everybody, and this is their moment. If you're listening Chimera One or whatever your name was, please step forward. I want to keep it.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Um, there was this really great joke from uh The Office where um Evan Peters was uh playing Michael's nephew, and he's like uh, yeah, I'm a big fan of cinema. Um my uh favorite films are Citizen Kane and the Boondock Saints. And um just like combining the those two movies. It was like so great.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Uh I I've been watching Rooster with my wife, and there was a joke in there that fucking destroyed me. There's a comedian named Rory Scovile who plays the police officer in there, and he's just yelling at Steve Carell from like these bleachers at a hockey rink, and he's just like, Oh, I I left my badge at the movie theater last night. I was there because it was the 10th anniversary of We Bought a Zoo. And he's just like super into the We Bought a Zoo movie. It's like, I didn't you you won't believe how many animals they had. Did you know you can just buy a zoo? Matt Damon's in it. He's really good.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

I already wanted to watch this show. Now I have to watch it.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

It's very good. We're we're having a good time with it. Got Renee for season two. Shout out, Ruby. Nice.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

Have you actually written a review on IMDb before, or do you just rank them?

SPEAKER_03 37:15

Like, they used to have like the forums on there, and I would like comment. Um, I would like create like, hey, what do you you guys think about this? And um they're like, yo, go to hell, kid. I'm 49. Um, but yeah, like I I don't think I ever posted a re review. I would just comment in like the forums like, hey, uh young boy looking for friends. Like be my friend, please.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

I was very popular for some reason. I assume because of my great taste.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

What what about you, did I?

SPEAKER_01 38:02

Young boy looking for friends. You crazy, Ricky. Um, weirdly enough, I I was very anti-online commenting for the longest time. And I still kinda am. I I don't really comment on anything just because why? Um I I feel like a lot of times it's more so shouting into the ether and and who knows who's gonna read it or get mad. I I think I think I've told you before this story that how I used to make YouTube videos of just reviewing movies and more in a comedic sense. And I remember I did one of Casablanca and the first comment I got was just someone being like, I want to watch someone reacting to the movie, not reviewing it and being smarmy about it. And I was like, Well, you got me there. I'm I am very smarmy. That's very fair. Shout out to that YouTube lady. And that was also the same.

SPEAKER_03 39:05

You made me watch this video of you.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

Yeah. I wanted this video to be something else, and now I'm mad. Well, it's not I don't think I don't think you're watching things correctly.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

You YouTube automatically played this video, and I don't like it, alright? So I'm gonna blame you because YouTube's not a real person.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Yeah, it's it's so strange. I mean, it you'll never under you'll never truly understand how people think or feel about things, because like I when I did my review of Casablanca, I I did say it's a 10 out of 10. I think it's a really brilliant movie. I think it's the script is great, the writing's great, cinematography, there's a lot of wonderful moments in it. And I got people who were mad at me for not loving it more, and I got people mad at me because that they claimed I didn't understand it in my loving it. So I loved it, but I loved it wrong or not enough.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

I I believe you uh said someone said watch the movie. You should watch the movie beep beef before you talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 40:16

It's so funny, and like I thought I was nailing it too. I was like, these are some cool, astute observations. And then there was a lot of people that really liked my video too, but not not just saying I truly screwed up, but like it's very funny. You just never know who who is reviewing things, who is watching things, how people think. I mean, that's I I hope they're all everyone's just a chimera when you think about it, of just hating or liking exactly what they want to hate or like for sure. Has there ever been whether it's an IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes, has there ever been a a review that someone said to you of like a movie you really loved that like this movie sucks, and you're just like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Or vice versa, where someone really loves a movie that's terrible.

SPEAKER_03 41:04

Uh yeah. Um I have a friend who's not really um a big fan of Mad Max Fury Road. And um I think it's one of the greatest films of all time.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

Uh man, this friend sounds really handsome.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

Um, not really.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

Oh, interesting. Interesting. Because I I mean that just sounds like a very handsome opinion to have.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

No. Yeah, that one's probably the one that comes out uh first in my mind. Um Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:41

Well well, I know you you also hate uh Napoleon Dynamite, is that correct? Am I remembering that right?

SPEAKER_03 41:47

I I did. And um I still haven't watched it again. I had a coworker who was like talking to me about it and cause like I'm very much, you know, in the minority there, and it's like I don't I I don't know. There are some movies that, you know, I have only seen once, and it's like okay. That one's one of those that I do need to re-revisit. But yeah, when I saw it, I was like, I just don't care. Like this is just like so dumb to me.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

I I'm curious about some of your ratings themselves. Because right now we're we're criticizing these critics. We're we're telling everyone that their opinions are weird and wrong or silly or ridiculous, but maybe we should put ourselves in their shoes for a moment. Ricky, uh, in your IMDB, I believe you're able to see how many movies you've given, like uh one to ten. And I'm curious, have you given really any movies a one? And how many? Because I I'll say this to the audience. Ricky is the kind of person where I've talked to him before and he'll be like, yeah, I really didn't like this movie. I thought the acting was bad. I thought I thought the story just had some choppy moments. I gave it a seven. Like, yeah, like that.

SPEAKER_03 43:11

That is like one of those things that um I will own up to, and like recently I've tried to get like harder, I guess. Um what is it? Uh uh blue blue choose the new one, right? Yeah. No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

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SPEAKER_03 43:49

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SPEAKER_01 43:52

Do do do Sarify IMDb rating. Yeah, because I I'm also someone who it's very hard for me to get. A movie a truly low score because typically I can find something I liked about it. Like if it's a movie I didn't enjoy, usually the lowest I go for a movie I don't enjoy is like a three or a four. It's pretty rare for me to give a movie a one or a two just because like I said, there's something usually redeeming. Whether it's oh I like this one scene or oh I liked what they were going for, but they didn't quite land it, you know.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

And also, like most of the time with me, like I'm not going out on my way to like watch a film that I think I won't like. I guess it's like when I'm watching it, it's like I have a feeling.

SPEAKER_01 44:43

You're not a big hate watch person.

SPEAKER_03 44:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there are, you know, like some. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:50

I'm looking at my I'm looking at my IMDb right now. I accidentally ass sorted it by IMDB rating. There's a movie called Titanic 2 that uh came out in 2010, has a 1.7 on IMDb. I apparently gave it a six. I was apparently super into Titanic 2. Keep in mind I've given like Dunkirk like a three.

SPEAKER_03 45:17

So uh damn it. I'm trying to get it to where it'll show me um like the breakdown. Yeah, just my uh one rating. It used to be a lot simpler than this.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Yeah, I'm doing it on mobile right now. If you do sort by your rating, you can do like try that. So I I have it looks like I've only given four movies a one.

SPEAKER_03 45:44

That was where I was. That's probably around where I am. What are yours?

SPEAKER_01 45:51

Uh, so there's the movie that you and I watched called Crow's Nest.

SPEAKER_03 45:55

I I told a coworker about that.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

For those who don't remember or who've never seen that movie, because why would you? It's like a really low budget horror film. The only thing I remember about it was there was always this like truck that was like meep meep would like hit people like right before it happened.

SPEAKER_03 46:10

It was about a killer's truck truck, because like the title gives it away, right?

SPEAKER_01 46:14

Yeah, Crow's Nest, you know, trucks. Guys, we can't explain everything to you. We can't spoon feed you. Um Bird Demic, Shock and Terror. I watched that because I heard it was bad. Like, people are like, it's fun, like the room, and I was like, it really wasn't. Um the the most recent War of the Worlds, I gave a one. Because it's just Ice Cube uh making dumb faces, and I hate everything that movie stands for because it's just nothing but Amazon product placement.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

That's the worst movie ever made.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

And then what I have is my number one that I think is even worse is the emoji movie. I despise that movie. And I think I told you I did a double feature of Showgirls and the emoji movie. Um, which Showgirls I love, and I know it's bad, but I like the movie. Emoji movie just made me mad because again, same with War of the Worlds, I hate what it stands for. Whereas just a bunch of like Sony executives being like, We own these things, let's just make a movie about it and make money and put a bunch of ads like Just Dance and Candy Crush in there. And I was like, what a disrespectful movie to make for movies.

SPEAKER_03 47:22

So I'm very vocal about my my hatred for showgirls, but like when I I think I told my co-worker this the other day, it's like I think I would actually watch Showgirls again above emoji movie. And I always like like d defend showgirls in this way, at least it has naked women in it. You know? It's something. Yeah. Even though it's the most unsexy, sexy movie of all time. Yeah, I've never been so turned off by the female body than in that movie.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

But um Yeah, I oh, apparently I gave Dunkirk a two, because it's right next to Showgirls, which also has a two. Um but I actually like it's one of those things where I like Showgirls, but I still gave it a two because I know it's a bad movie. But I think it's more fun to watch than, you know, The Room or uh Bird Demic or any of those other like Sharknado, that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 48:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

Um, I only have a handful of twos. I have just very few ones. And then basically once you get to like threes and fours, that's when you start getting into my level of like, okay, this isn't really for me. Yeah, I want to hear some of your ones and twos, because again, you give a lot of high rankings to movies. And I I did two for the longest time where I would give everything like at worst like a seven, and it was only in the past like five years or so where I was like, I need to start knocking some of these down a peg.

SPEAKER_03 48:52

I have twelve ones? Given a one too.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

Ooh, okay, so I I'm assuming War of the Worlds is on there.

SPEAKER_03 49:01

Yep, worst movie ever made.

SPEAKER_01 49:03

I assume you have Showgirls on there.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:06

Uh is emoji movie on there. It should be.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Thank God. Um probably Crow's Nest. Yep. Yeah, good. So we have very similar ones at least. Although you have a lot more. You have more ones. I hope there's something really shocking on here, just like a movie everybody loves.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

Well, I mean, Napoleon Dynamites on there. Wow. But it's like that one, you know, I will re-watch. Um Sharknado.

SPEAKER_01 49:36

Um Sharknado Shore. Give me something juicy. What's a juicy like? Do you have like I want to hear something like The Matrix as a one? Like a movie that people love.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

No, I think the closest thing is uh Napoleon Dynamite.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

Yeah, that that's a big one to have as a one. But at the same time, I knew a lot of people who despise that movie too.

SPEAKER_03 49:58

Dude, do you do you see what emoji movies uh score is?

SPEAKER_01 50:04

A 3.5 year movie. Yeah, that is like insane. That's aggressively high. That's a lot higher than I would have ever imagined the emoji movie to have.

SPEAKER_03 50:15

Yeah, I have The Adventures of Pluto Nash.

SPEAKER_01 50:18

Oh, good, good choice. That's a great one-star choice.

SPEAKER_03 50:23

Uh, there was this film The Break In, which I saw in 2016. I think it was a horror movie.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

Yeah, I have a lot of horror movies pretty low, and that's just because they're like some horror movies are just very low budget and like clearly just made to make a quick buck kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

Um, Boat Trip with uh Cuba Gunning Jr. and Horatio Sands.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

Oh my god! I was like, why does that sound familiar? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That classic pairing. Uh good luck, Chuck with Oh, that's right! You know Dane Cook. Yeah. That remember when Dane Cook was in every movie in the 2000s for some reason?

SPEAKER_03 51:05

That is like the most gratuitous nudity movie. Like it's like literally just like let's show women's tits and like we will make all this money.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

Like Yeah. Yeah, I mean I don't remember that because I think I only saw it like I saw it like four times because it was always on Comedy Central or whatever when I would come home from school back in the day. Yeah, and so all that was added.

SPEAKER_03 51:30

Well, yeah, I had to masturbate on the the steel book and uh blue pill. We're listening. Uh When a Stranger Calls, um, the one from 2006. Yeah, like for the first time. That movie just just pisses me off. I guess like I feel like my whole thing is girl, just leave. Like, just leave the house.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

Uh I have a a horror film on here called Final Exam that I give two stars. Uh I think it came out after like Friday the 13th and Halloween, like that kind of stuff, so it was just trying to jump on the slasher trend. The only thing I remember about it is there's a scene where everyone's on college and then a bunch of like people come out and start shooting guns and shooting like the college students and then carry them into a van, and then like they take off their hats and they're like, it was just a prank. Like they shot them with like I don't remember if like the the students getting shot were in on it too, so they had like blood splatter, or if they were just shooting them with paintballs and made it look like they were dead. But I was like, This is an insane thing to put into a film.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

School school shooting. Like good or comedy, you know.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

This was like, yeah, this was in '81, so it's like it's a different time. School shootings are really funny. You know, this wasn't like this wasn't like a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

Yeah, it wasn't like so popular. Like, I mean, I feel like I don't have any like any big how do you have have that. Yeah, I'm like looking through my other like low ratings, and yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:06

Yeah, I'm looking through my low ratings right now. My big one, I see a Dunkirk at a two. Uh I don't think it's loved, but Amsterdam I had it a three.

SPEAKER_03 53:15

No, yeah, I think that's pretty hated.

SPEAKER_01 53:19

Polar Express, I have a three. God, I hate Polar Express.

SPEAKER_03 53:21

I've still never seen it.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

I see it every year. My wife loves it, so we watch it for Christmas. And I just I can't handle it. Oh, I have your favorite movie on here. Movie 43.

SPEAKER_03 53:33

Oh, dear lord. Like audience. I don't understand why everyone light like hated me for like having us watch that. Because it's like, I knew it was gonna be bad. Everyone was like, you dude, like like uh Ricky like like thinks this is gonna be the greatest movie. No, no, no. No, I knew it was gonna be bad.

SPEAKER_01 53:57

So for those who are listening, back in college, Ricky's like, we have to watch this movie. You were adamant in my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 54:05

Yeah, yeah, because it had all these like insane stars, and it was supposed to be like awful.

SPEAKER_01 54:11

I don't think you translated it or like told us that it was supposed to be a bad movie. You were just like, we have to watch this. In my mind, you saw it before and were like, I I hadn't seen it.

SPEAKER_03 54:22

Trust me, I I I hate that on movie.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Oh man. God I I remember watching that with you and all of our like college friends, and it was everyone was like we were mad at you. We were furious at you that you directed it. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 54:39

Ricky, why did you write and direct and reduce this? That's pretty much what happened. Like, guys, I didn't make this. You're making us watch it. Oh, God.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Oh, Transformers. That's a big one. I've that as a at a three. That that's a one that people seem to really like. Um that's a 7.1 on IMDb, so I'm I'm really under shooting it.

SPEAKER_03 55:03

That one's probably the the the best no Bumblebee's the best uh Transformers movie. But um Yeah, like out of like the main series, that one's probably the the best. But just Michael Bay's not the greatest, you know.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Sorry, Michael Bay fans. He just ain't the greatest.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

I I mean so it seems like as far as our ratings are concerned, we don't have too many shocking ones. Oh, this this might piss off some people. I apparently gave Land Before Time a four. Uh I'm not crazy about Land Before Time.

SPEAKER_03 55:38

Me neither. Loved it as a kid. That that would have been a good one. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 55:42

If if you have anything to say to us, audience, find us. Yeah, Ricky. Ricky, give out your address. Ricky's not scared of you folks.

SPEAKER_03 55:50

Alright, here's my social. And uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:59

You know what? Uh I I think our opinions are great, and uh everyone else is wrong. I think that's what we're taking away from this episode.

SPEAKER_03 56:05

Yeah, pr pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 56:07

Um, let's let's try to end on uh a philosophical note, Ricky. Do you think that there are there is any value in IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes or really opinions that align at all?

SPEAKER_03 56:22

I think the value in all of it is like what I used it for is like I found this is how I found movies. Like looking at a list, reading re reviews and everything, like this is how I was able to like broaden my my film knowledge and like get into like more like foreign films and like classic films. Cause if I hadn't like like nobody really, you know, talks about them or anything, like they aren't like promoted um that uh much. So like I think that's the uh biggest thing. Um having like rankings and everything, that is what I enjoy them for. It's like, oh, like this is a really well-loved movie, let me like check this out. But it's like just because like it's well loved doesn't mean you have to love it. Like it's like you're not a bad person because you don't like this. It's like unless you're a Brandon and like doesn't like Mad Max Curry Road, like you know.

SPEAKER_01 57:32

I don't believe you said Brandon was the one, you just said your friend, so must be a different Brandon.

SPEAKER_03 57:37

Yeah, yeah, that uh one you were talking about earlier with the tank. Very handsome and the tank, yeah. Yeah, the handsome tank. But but yeah, and it's like just cause like people like like the Amases hate on a movie you love, it's like, oh man, like that doesn't make you a bad person or anything. It's like love w what you love. You know, it's like you you don't have to like take them like so so seriously, yeah, but like look at them and be like, oh, this could be cool, that could be cool, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 58:12

Yeah, I I I would absolutely agree. I it's hard to know now because I I feel like we are in a bit more of a social media age, so people are probably writing reviews to be seen, as opposed to making like a actual point or like having like more outrageous takes or whatever. Yeah, like it it's we definitely live more in a time where you need to say the most outrageous thing, which is like pick a popular movie and just make a YouTube video called like this is why this movie sucks. Yeah, yeah. And yes, I mean I I think you're right. I think using IMDB as a tool for keeping your lists or ranking things, or even just a nice reminder. Sometimes it's fun to see where it says like you rated this movie on you know this date of 2001. You're like, oh but man, I wonder what I was doing in 2001, like watching this movie, because obviously your views are gonna change in 20 years.

SPEAKER_03 59:08

I I watched a movie not not that uh long ago, and I went to raid it, and I had already seen it, and I had rated it the same thing that I was gonna give it, and I'm gonna do it. That's amazing. Remember having seen it like at all. It was like the hell.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

I mean, you could spend an entire afternoon going through every movie you rated, and you'll just be like, I could not tell you a thing about this movie.

SPEAKER_03 59:33

Dude, it's kind of scary because like the older I'm getting, I'm like, oh shit. Like, I don't remember this at all.

SPEAKER_01 59:42

Actually, really quickly, I want to just scroll down. So I feel like I remember the movies I love more, so I just want to quickly look to see if I hit a movie that I gave a high score to that I just go, I don't even know what this is. Right now I'm seeing you know, everything I I recognize pretty well, so that's good. Hopefully it won't take too, too long. But I bet if I get I bet like in the eights is probably where I'll start going, oh, I don't know what this movie's even about. Uh Bridge of Spies, I gave a nine. I don't actually remember a whole lot about Bridge of Spies. I remember liking it though. So it's not it's I have the I remember the feeling of liking it, but I can't tell you a whole lot about what happened. Oh, here's a good one. Inherent Vice. I could not tell you a thing about that movie. What did you give it? Apparently I gave it a nine. We probably watched it in college.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:35

We know you and I saw it in theaters.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:37

Did we really? Good for us.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

I yeah, that might be the first one. I could not tell you a thing about Inherent Vice, but apparently I liked it.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:46

I enjoyed it quite a bit. I think I was feeling it wouldn't hold up for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

IMDB has a 6.6. Why do you think it won't hold up? Is there a lot of like weird gratuities?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

Well, I mean it's it's just a weird Paul Thomas Anderson one. It's like I feel like it's not as good as like his others. Like, cause I loved it too, but I feel like I'm like, uh, you know, yeah, comparing it to the others.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

Apparently I gave storks a nine. I remember being funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:14

I liked storks. I don't think I gave it a nine.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:19

It has that's IMDB for it. This is my Rocky and Bullwinkle. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:26

Citizen Kane is shit, but let's talk about storks.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

Storks uh loving Vincent, that's another movie that I I think I I gave a nine, but I remember nothing about it besides the actual like the whole thing was painted like a Yeah, it was like the animated Vincent Ringo.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

Yeah, I mean that's it's just so funny and how how quickly your brain can forget things.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:50

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

Man, maybe I'll do that after this podcast. I'm just gonna Okay, good. Toy Story I have a nine. I've seen Toy Story a million times. I remember I memorized that movie as a kid.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:00

Yeah, that that is another thing. It's like you're like a rating based off when like you last saw it, and then it's like, oh my gosh, this does not hold up at all.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:10

Oh yeah, there I'm sure we can that could be a whole episode we can do of just movies that don't hold, as opposed to like kid moves movies, but just movies that like, oh, I did not remember a lot of this. Which I feel like that list is gonna be a lot of like 2000s comedies, because again, comedies are the first thing to age poorly.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:30

Well, Ricky, do you have any final thoughts on IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, Letterboxd, people's opinions in general?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:40

No, um, I think it's like uh the one thing I'll say is like try like the uh big thing about today's day and age, you know, you were talking about, it's like the internet's just like, you know, people are out there being shitty in general, and it's like just try and like be r respectful of like people's opinions, unless you're like just like straight up trying to be a troll, like like, you know, it's like if you're like like a serious person, it's like you y you can like disagree, but I mean there's a way to go about it, like r r respecting what someone likes and everything, and you can have a discussion and instead of just being like, yo, you're you're shit. Um right. You know, you don't know anything.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:28

I think I'm definitely at the age where like too much negativity just bums me out after a while. Oh, for sure. I I've started blocking YouTubers that if I look at their channel and every video is like worst movie ever, worst movie of the year, worst movie I saw this week. I'm like, just maybe make a video about a thing you enjoy. Just just once. Just just try it. See, see how it feels. Right. I've started blocking those people because I'm like, how do you even have that much hate for things? Like, I get it, it's rage, rage bait's always gonna win over positivity, unfortunately. But yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:02

So our last message is try and be happy.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:04

Uh you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna end on a negative note here. This you know what, I'm gonna join the rage bait for a second. I my least favorite thing about the IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes list, they are both missing Beverly Hills Chihuahuas, and that's so why would you even take them seriously, you know? It is the Drew Barrymore Joe George Lopez bot like buddy pick that we've all been clamoring for over years, and it's just not giving the respect it deserves.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:33

I I don't have anything to add. I mean, I look hard to that is that is the perfect way to uh to end this episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:42

Justice for Beverly Hills Chihuahuas. BHC. Thank you for listening to BHC tattoo. Thank you for listening to another episode of a mostly film podcast. I almost got the title of our show wrong. I almost said a very film podcast. Um, is it too late to rebrand? Oh, thank you for listening to another episode of a mostly film podcast. I've been brand, and with me as always, is Ricky. And please go watch some movies.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:18

Bye.