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Welcome to Tell Me Something You Don't Know, where we explore curiosities without credentials. We're your factually adjacent hosts, Maddie and Sarah. Every week we exchange random topics with just enough research to keep things interesting and slightly accurate. So lower your bars and let's learn something you never knew you wanted to know. 

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

All of everyone sick. Oh no. And you know what the weirdest part is, is that I was the first one sick, which doesn't make any sense because usually the kids get sick, and then we care for the kids, and then we get sick. But this went backwards. I got sick first, and then the children got sick. Mom's a little sick as well. And so is Matt. We're all getting it out of the way. So by the time dad gets here, we won't get him sick because historically, every time he comes here, he gets sick.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Uh yeah. Historically, every time he goes anywhere, he gets sick. Um, and I would have to wager that he'll still get sick despite.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

Yeah, you know what? I can't, I can't disagree. If I was a Betton lady, yeah, I would uh definitely put money on him getting sick. But uh, you know, hopefully not. Welcome to Tell Me Something You Don't Know, where we explore curiosities without credentials.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

We're your factually adjacent hosts, Maddie and Sarah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Every week we exchange random topics with just enough research to keep things interesting and slightly accurate.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

So lower your bars and let's learn something you never knew you wanted to know. How are you? You know, pretty good. Uh not a lot to report, just hanging out.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Also, okay, so I feel like I constantly am like, here's something that I hate about us. Perfect. When we're um podcasting. But I I wanted to turn the tables and say something that I enjoy about us. How wonderfully optimistic of you. I know. I feel like it's a good one because it also still makes fun of us, which then I'm not committing fully, you know, to be nice to us. It's sort of like a a half, a halfy. So something that I really enjoy that maybe other people hate, but I think is so funny is our old man laughs. Oh my god. Because you know how an old man, I I can't like I can't reenact it, but like it's like the like wheezy sort of like I I can't even, but you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Oh yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

No, I'm very aware of the laugh.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

But I like it, I just think it's funny. It's kind of like, oh dang, like you're not even trying to be cute laughing, like you're nothing cute about it. Straight up old man ugly laughing. That was something that I enjoy, and I had no notes on things that I hate, because obviously we are now experts at not using the words literally or wild or 100%. Yeah, we've wiped those from our vocabulary and we're experts, expert level uh talking. Old man left. Old man laugh very true.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

Doing do you still use it though in your daily life when you know you're not on iPhone?

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Oh, I'm sure. I think mostly in work, which is the worst part because you should sound smarter at work. And I think that I but I think that's part of my approach is like I think that's how I seem disarming to people, is yeah sounding a little casual. Yeah. It's how I gain trust.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

I you know, I gotta dumb it down a little for the uh for the folks who know.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

I think it's like the way that you like get underestimated, which I view as a strength.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Yes, yeah, true, true, true, true.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Because I think you like build relationships quicker that way when you're like, hey man, I'm not a threat. Like, yeah, I use words like literally, yeah. You can go talk to me. I'm approachable. Yeah, I'm approachable. I'm uh I'm easy peasy lemon squeezy. And then once I get in, I'm like, guess what? I'm not so easy lemon squeezy. Now I have advice and feedback for you.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Yeah, that's a good one, especially for like you work in HR. So that's like plus, I don't know. I just like to talk like a regular person at work because I mean, you know, I don't, I'm not like we don't gotta I I don't have a lot of situations unless I'm presenting in which I have to be like truly like and even when I'm presenting, if I'm being quite honest, I like I throw a little joke here and there and like just add some humor.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

I remember one time uh when I worked like this was a few companies ago, and it was when everybody was in the office still. A lot of places have gone remote, obviously, but it was when I actually had to physically go into an office, and I we used to do like actual, like full blown on a stage with a microphone presentations, and my boss was out, so she was like, Can you present our department's like pieces? And I'm like, Yeah, not a problem. Secretly, though, I'm like, I what if I die on stage? Like, what if I just fall down and pass away, like you know, while I'm talking? Or like, what if I like what if my legs shake so severely that people are like, Are you all right? Like it's such a scary to stand up on a platform higher than everybody else while everyone in the room is staring at you. Yes, yes, yes, is so scary. And so I went up and I feel like I blacked out and I'm like talking and presenting the data. And then at one point I'm like, and we want to touch, like we want to touch people. And I'm like, wait a second. I'm like, that I'm like, wait a moment. That is not formal HR advice. Let's not touch people. And I got a laugh, which made me feel good about myself.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Most definitely it's a thrill. It is a thrill.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

It is a thrill. I'm like, I understand why not saying that that was like a stand-up comedian just really giving myself a lot of credit. But like I understand how stand-up comedic comedians comedians get like addicted to that feeling. Because you're just like, oh dang, I made it funny, and other people thought it was funny too. And that is like a very true. What a tumultuous job that must be.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Like, well, it's very it's like sad because yes, that is you get addicted to it, plus like statistically speaking, yeah, generally, like people are quite sad, like it's a sad which is really I think it's sort of like real time social media, like yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

As far as like an addiction, like you get so addicted to like the get like getting the the likes, but you get it in real time and experience it in real time by people laughing.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

And then if you're not getting those likes, you're immediately and which is even more intense in person, like people are not laughing. Maybe they're even actively booing you, like trolls, which like is the name of the game in that you know profession, but like experiencing it is even more intense. So it's almost like the real-time social media, and that's your whole job.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

Yeah, it's it's very true. It's really it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Check on your check on your comedian friends.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Well, I was gonna say the nice thing about improv, because like a lot of people who do improv also either end up doing, I think it's generally start an improv then end up doing stand-up, and you can just tell when somebody is gonna do like when they're meant for stand up, because like I've done improv with yeah, I've done improv with people, and they obviously improv is all about community and it's like passing, like it's it's a sport. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 8:10

It is, and it's so fun, and that's why I love it because you're never alone, and like if it's just great, it's awesome, but then they're taking bad shit into good shit, like to basically like this is going poorly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

You're like, let's use it, yes, yes, and also like things going bad just never feel too bad when you're like not alone on stage. Um and you can just kind of like feed off of each other's energy, but then you'll always come across people who like are like oh yeah, you're you're meant you you could do a standalone and like carry an entire show, no problem.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Um, and then like what a feeling to be that person. Absolutely. Like, I I totally understand the like it's like a cult of one.

SPEAKER_01 8:50

Yes, yes, yes. It's it is, it is. I I think if you can like let the shitty stuff roll off your back as well and like be like don't take yourself too seriously, which is always hard, especially when you're in something that's like a growing addiction. But like right, I do think like it's it does seem like a lot of fun. I have one friend that I did improv with, and he it now does stand up like when we're like out and about and stuff, he'll just like riff a few jokes. And I'm like, oh my god, that's so and I'm so fascinated by the process.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

I'm like that is too like and getting the cadence right, getting the like timing right, like getting the energy right, like for it to hit, it it's like you're creating an organic moment, but you're creating it, yeah. Like you're you're and you're co-creating it. So you do all of the prep to like set it up for success, but you still have to co-create it with the audience as well. So like they are participants and like they need to be, they need to be like set up to do it with you. Like what a crazy lightning in a bottle thing. Yes, yeah, most definitely.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

It's it's very impressive. It is, yeah. It's also just that a lot of fun. That whole community, that whole like world is just like so much fun. And I like it too because it's like if you're just like, I want to go tonight, but I don't know what I want to do, like go to an improv show or a stand-up, but don't and like the ones that are but then I get very nervous because if they're bad, I'm just like, I yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

And it is like ooh, I get the same feeling, but like amplified as when people are doing acceptance speeches and they get the music. They're just like, oh god, this is this is going bad. And we need to stop it.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Yeah, it's true. I think because I've been on I think because I've done it.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

No, but well, listen, I've I've just explained that I'm I've done it too.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

I did it that one time I was on the media when I was presenting our Q4 results. So it's true. But I mean, I think after having performed on stage like improv like a few times now, I uh I do I think that I think it makes sense that people who are new to it or don't know it that often or have only really been the audience member, like get that anxiety. I think when you've been on stage and you just like are you've fumbled and you're like, oh, this is fine, it's fine. It's like less concerning to watch improv people having done it before because you're like right, you're like, they've got it, it's they've got it. And like even if it's all there, yeah, exactly. Like people didn't pay a hundred dollars to be here. Like, we're coming in, these are like five dollars at the door, maybe it might be just a free like drop-in. Like the underground comedy scene is definitely the best. Um, so interesting.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Anyway, so I'm a comedian and uh I'm quitting my job and doing stand-up full time.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Yep. I think you would be actually good at it if you like my career.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Like, I mean I think I would, I think I would. I I don't like doing things that I know I will become obsessed with.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Yeah, I mean that's fair.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Like, I'm incredibly competitive with myself and with others, so like I but I don't like the feeling of competing, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

Like you're at odds often then.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Those are two different things. Those are two different things. Like, if I and I think it's probably because I like to win.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it might go, you might be one of those ones where it goes, it goes it goes bad.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

It goes really bad, but also speaking in front of people really terrifies me. So that does seem like a key skill set that you need in order to do that job.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Well, and this is why I think people start an improv and then do stand up because I think to go right into stand-up would be scary. Improv is quite honestly, especially if you're taking like levels one to three, you you there are people in there that are not doing it for the class. There are people whose company pay for them to take an improv class because they're like, look, this is gonna so many people. My first, my first level, like taking level one, um, there was three lawyers in the class. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

And they were like, yeah, like on stage.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

No, they were profile. It was cool. Well, it was cool to see because at the beginning, super like stiff, very uncomfortable. Pretty much like, I don't want to be here, but I literally have to sign off that I've done this. And then by the end, a lot more like like loosened up, quicker on the on their feet. Like, and then it was interesting.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

Obsessed with this. That is so because like what a good thing. If you're like, listen, you're gonna have to be extremely comfortable thinking on your feet and like presenting information and being in a court, like it's improv, but like they're against you, so like you need to be good at this. Exactly. Oh, I love that. That's very outside the box.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

I know. I actually wrote in my last job, I wrote a whole blog about how improv is important in the world of business.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

You're a massive nerd, and I love it. Um, but you here's the other thing I find about improv is that it is a cult, and like if you do it and you like it, it's like CrossFit. Like, I feel like you like it's like it's like getting a new boyfriend that you can't stop talking about, and you know that other people are starting to get annoyed that you're talking about him so frequently, but you can't help it because you like him so much, so you just keep talking about it, and as you talk about it, you're like, oh my god, that person doesn't actually care about what I'm talking about, but I I can't stop.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Yeah, it's true. Is this you?

SPEAKER_00 14:35

It's not a subtle way to say that I don't care. It's literally gonna ask like, okay, noted.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Oh damn, noted talk to Sarah about it, bruv. Got it.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

No, I love to hear about it. I just mean it has that flavor. You know what I mean? Yes, no, no, no. Where you're just like, for sure, I would I would never ever be tired of you talking about it. I'm very interested in it, but I can see it being one of those things.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Oh, definitely. I feel like unless the door is cracked open, I mean if the door is cracked open, I'll open it all the way up. But unless it is cracked open by somebody who doesn't do improv, like I it's it's it's yeah, it's super it is there is a cultiness to it.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

And also But I love cult, like cult. I I honestly like if you're not doing terrible things, which is obviously what cults do. But like, I don't know, are there positive cults?

SPEAKER_01 15:27

Like, you know, I think everything could probably be anything that has community could probably be categorized as a cult. Yeah, if I'm being totally like I mean some are bad, yeah, and drink laid together. Running exactly running groups, improv religion.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Yeah, it's anything all just looking for community.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Yeah, I mean, I think we're supposed to be seen and heard.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

That's right. We're human beings. This is part of our this is part of our what we do.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

And on that note, yeah, we have a podcast. Jesus. Oh god. I mean, that's fine. It's a warm-up. We're warming up. Listen, I don't think that I ever want to not do the back and forth banter because it's so fun. So if you guys don't like it, you can you get out of here. You get out of here. Or fast forward to the big stuff.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

That's true. You could easily, and sometimes I do that on podcasts. I'm like, oh, I I don't, I don't. I'm just here for the facts, please.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

I'm here for the hard-hitting facts, which obviously we provide 100% accuracy.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Okay, well I'm going first this week.

unknown 16:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Oh God, are you are you okay?

SPEAKER_00 16:42

I think I'm so excited about my topic. That's why I'm like, I wanted to just get it out of the way. But no, I'm also now shifting gears in my brain to be excited about your topic because I have no idea what you're gonna talk about, and I'm so excited to hear about it.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

I know mine's super random, but I did genuinely find it rather interesting. So what today I'm gonna talk to you about hemp.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Love that it's one syllable.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Yep, it's perfect, it's perfect.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

The delivery no notes.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

No notes. Okay, so the reason I'm talking to you about hemp is that it is considered the most versatile and sustainable plant in the world.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Which I did not, I knew that it was a versatile, yeah, like as in cannabis, sativa. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But obviously, this is the kind of cannabis that doesn't, it has like negligible levels of THC. So it's not, we're not like I mean, if we are talking about the versatility, that is another element to it, but that's not what we're talking about today. So gotcha. It is a plant that provides thousands of applications in food, clothing, healing, and uh housing humanity.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

Woe uh was not anticipating anticipating was not anticipating housing.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Okay, yeah. So like wild stuff. Uh also there, I'm gonna talk about a few, like, well, more than a few. I'm gonna talk about plenty of the facts. They're just like quick ones, but this isn't even really a dent in it, which what? Yeah, like I'm telling you, this plant is magic. So wow.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Uh so are there like hemp? Are there like who owns who capitalizes on hemp?

SPEAKER_03 18:46

Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 18:48

Probably the most would be so available, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, people who grow hemp, there are like there are there have been and continue to be like issues with like the trading of hemp, but it is like and it's continuing to have like purpose, like like new purposes keep emerging. Um it's been cultivated for over 10,000 years and is uh the source of over 25,000 different products. Whoa, lots, so lots and lots. The so I'm gonna talk a little bit about the agricultural and environmental elements first. So it is a natural weed suppression. Um, so hemp plant grows rapidly and forms a dense canopy, and it limits the growth of weed by restricting the amount of sunlight. So people will strategically use this as like a weed suppressor instead of using like shitty chemical things to do that. Yeah. It also helps to preserve essential nutrients in the soil. It's just used in general for like other forms of agriculture to like keep crops healthy. And there's like a ton of like there's a ton of stuff I could really go into, but we would be here all day. But like the specific things that it does for different kinds of crops. Yes, it absorbs toxic heavy metals, including lead, cadmium, and mercury from the soil and reduces toxicity. It can restore soil health affected by nearby industrial waste dumps. Quick callback, because it can also extract radioactive elements from soil, and it has, in fact, been used near the Chernobyl disaster site to decontaminate the soil.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

Whoa! This mighty little plant. Yes, very cool.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

100%, most definitely. My boss took a she has like she got her certification in porticulture. No, well, she did she might even have a little bit of that. What did my, I feel like I'm gonna butcher it and she may listen to this. Sorry in advance if I do. I think that she did like uh well, herbalist. Um, like herbalism, but like that she was explaining how like it's such it's like I scratched the smallest surface of like imagine we all like in school learned about this stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Yes, instead of good I know, you know, all the other stuff that we can't even think of a thing to say because I retained so much. I was trying to think of like a mathematical yeah, like algebra is the common one. Hi, also yeah, I'm like, yep, sure. Also I just I did a hard pee on that, so apologize. I apologize to everybody listening. Hi.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Are you drinking what do you think? Oh my god, I'm so sorry. No, no, no, that wasn't like a it's clinky. No, it's all good. I was just wondering if you were having a cocktail, although it's probably too early in the day to be doing that.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

So it is absolutely too early in the day.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Disregard. Okay, anyways, so it can also stabilize soil that has been damaged by wildfires. And it reduces greenhouse gases by capturing significant amounts of carbon dioxide from the air.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

What is happening? Why is this plant not just what zones does it cross?

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Like you don't even know, man. We're about to, I know. And let me also just quickly pause to say that the how I came across this was not in my head. I was like, I wonder if there's a crazy versatile plant.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

That's literally just, I was like, I wonder. I love that your brain does that.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

I was like, I bet you there's something that's just like got crazy amounts of use. And then I always think of a coconut. Literally, the whole time we've been talking.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

I'm like, coconut. Yeah, coconut.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

That is that's another good one. The second one that came up when I was Googling this is bamboo. I didn't even get into that because it regenerates quickly and requires few resources, making it very ideal for sustainable agriculture. Uh and it also, from a farming perspective, requires far less water than conventional fiber crops like cotton. So it's just, again, like a sustainable one. And it also disrupts the growth of pathogens, making it an excellent, excellent rotation crop for plants like potatoes. Wow. And after harvesting, hemp stalks and roots can be composted into the soil to increase organic content. So just like from the beginning. It just like starts-finish off. Yeah, exactly. It's useful. Moving into textiles and fabrics. So okay. Yep. On to the next. Again, there's like hundreds of agricultural things that it does, but I just we can't be we can't be. Yeah. Yeah. So hemp yields 250% more fiber than cotton.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

And 600% more than linen using the same amount of land.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Okay, wait. And you said that this was this has been around for like how long?

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Like thousands and thousands of years. Well, it says it's been cultivated for over 10,000 years. I don't know. Like weird.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

Like, why would we even enter kinds of well for for money purposes, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Right. Yeah. Hemp was one of the earliest plant fibers used for clothing in ancient civilizations. It was also used to make sails and ropes on sailing ships because of its durability, which obviously, if it's got that much more fiber than some of the more common ones we hear of, that makes sense. Armies also used it to rely uh uh for for making soldiers' uniforms, um, because again, it was like tough, it had a toughness to it. And it was also used specifically in World War II for making parachute cords due to its high tensile strength. Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Yeah. So it's like probably we went into cotton and bamboo and stuff like that, maybe for like a softer touch, because this sounds like I I yeah, I don't know, but I that could be part of it because I think a lot of the I think a lot of the stuff it is used for is just like it's the durability factor. For me and yeah, tough ends.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Exactly. So textiles made by hemp, obviously similar to like linen and stuff, can decompose naturally without polluting the environment. Denim manufacturers are making durable and eco-friendly jeans from hemp fibers. The textiles made from hemp have good breathability, similar to linen, and then also odor resistance, making it ideal for like active wear. It also hemp fabric blocks UV light, it fights mold, and so it is it has been often used for curtains for that reason as well, specifically.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

What on earth? Like, why are we not wrapped in this? Yeah, right at all times.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

I know it is used to make furniture, upholstery, and lampshades um because it is also fire resistant.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

What is happening? This feels pretend. It feels like you're lying.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

I know, I know, and like we again, I haven't even really gotten into it. Like it's crazy. Canvases made from the hemp were widely used during the Renaissance era due to their smooth texture.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

I feel like you're about to tell me they also like, while they're fire resistant, they're also excellent fire starters. Like this is the vibe. Like, it does it all.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

Well, it does it does. Like, I mean, I don't know about fire starting, but we are now moving into the energy sector.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Okay, energy sector.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Hemp's cellulose content makes it an excellent source for ethanol, a green alternative to gasoline.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

What is happening? Okay, so if there's basically my takeaway is if there's an apocalypse, like figure out how to grow hemp. Grow hemp. And everything else will work out.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

Exact this was my exact thought as well. Unlike gasoline, hemp ethanol does not produce sulfur emissions. Uh, hemp absorbs CO2 and offsets the carbon released with when ethanol is burned.

SPEAKER_00 27:10

What? So it's like a cleaner burning.

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like it it in fact is like okay to do it. Like maybe even a bit.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

So we just choose violence, basically, as a humanity. Definitely. We're just like, you know what? There is a plant that is cleaner to burn that we can grow that would be less ridiculously war, like mongering, starting powerless hungry, which is probably why they are like, yeah, no, don't look over there. We need to focus on petrol and gasoline and oil. Yep. Pretty much. We're just figuring out everything.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

Yeah. We're really doing it is possible to generate large amounts of electricity from hemp biomass.

unknown 28:02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

What the oh my god. Like now I feel like someone's gonna show up at our house and be like, stop talking about hemp.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

We don't want people to know about it. Hemp biomass can be converted into low emission charcoal briquettes. Compressed hemp pellets can be fuel for wood-burning stoves.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

So as I said, it is both fire retardant and also that is true, actually. I forgot about the pellets. It also says here pyrolysis changes hemp into sings, which is a clean alternative to coal. You might be asking what pyrolysis is. Um I looked it up. It is the thermal decomposition of organic materials at high temperatures in the complete or near complete absence of oxygen. Okay. Yes, hydrogen to power green vehicles can be obtained from hemp biomass as well. And hemp pyrolysis produces a sticky substance that can be an alternative to tar used for literal construction.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

What is happening? I feel like we it we have everything we need to be like we do closer society and like better to each other and better to the planet.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Yeah, this is why it's so sad, is it's like we've become we're such a cons well, at least Western society is such a consumerism charged environment that we don't the the planet has already given us everything that we needed from the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

Well, and it's also like a pat like there's a large power dynamic at play where it's like other people kind of decide what's important and we are like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, true. That is that's true. We are going, which like makes sense. Like these massive companies that are pumping out cars are tied to the people who I mean, I could go into a spiral, but I'm just you know, if we just like trusted in each other and like learned from each other, we we would be more aware of these things, I feel like, and would be like, hey, what if we created something that was beneficial to everybody that didn't have a high cost to the planet Earth and to us? Like, wouldn't that be nice? But then people who are already insanely wealthy would be like, Well, we can't profit off of that. Yeah, so we don't like you guys getting along either.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Yeah, it doesn't work for us. It's true. Hemp's bad. Oh my god, there's just so many. Okay, biodiesel can be made from hemp oil for reducing dependency on crude oil. Yep. Methanol from hemp can uh provide small communities with energy independence. So, yep. Okay, hemp seed oil was a main source of fuels for lamps before kerosene. So hemp oil lamps produce very little smoke, thus making it a clean option. And candles made from hemp oil are an eco-friendly replacement for petroleum wax. So that's that. Paper and packaging is an entire section, but I just pulled a few, like you're like, it exists. It exists, yeah, like it the list runs forever, but I pulled a few, like, just like fun ones. The first known paper source was hemp. It was the raw material of choice for making paper in China. Paper for ancient scripts and books, important historical manuscripts such as the Gutenberg Bible was printed on hemp paper.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

Currency and stock certificates, hemp paper was widely used for printing currency notes due to its durability. Early US government documents, so in 1776, the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution were drafted on hemp paper.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

Whoa. Hemp does not who where give hemp its flowers. Like it does not get enough acknowledgement.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

I know. Well, to be fair, I'm like, is it just my ignorance? There probably are a lot of hemp.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

No, this is a this this is a worldwide devastation. Absolutely. It wouldn't be our ignorance. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

Not just know how. Okay, then the last section to discuss is building. So hemp crete is a lightweight, breathable building material that regulates indoor humidity and temperature. It can be used for walls, roofing, fireproofing, and flooring. Alternative to sand and gravel, hemp shiv mixed with lime is a lightweight and durable construction material. Insulation, natural hemp fiber is ideal for thermal and sound insulation in homes. Lime-based hemp plasters, it makes wall coatings strong and flexible, reducing cracking. And uh hemp fiber board for furniture. It is an alternative to particular board used to make like cabinets and desks. And um yeah. Oh, this is not the last section. I'm so sorry I lied, but we only have a couple more to go. It's wild to me. I I know. Like, so your whole house from the bones in which it is built to what furnishes it can be just created.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

I also am like, okay, is that in play currently? Like, is it that we're not utilizing it? Or as you mentioned, is it like, well, yeah, no, we use we currently use that in so many situations, we just don't know it, or is it that I think maybe it might be a combination, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Like it might be a combination of both. And we do know, like to your point, like once something becomes like easily, sustainable. Yeah, yeah. Well, yes, yes. And then like when somebody's like marble everything, it's like then that becomes the desired, you know, the yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

Um when I think of hemp, I think of like hippie vibes.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Like, I don't think of like yeah, me too, lux or you know, expensive, or and I guess that's part of the point is like yeah, but I mean, and is that because we is that because that's what you know, that's like what we're indoctrinated to believe, or can you create things with hemp and they're still gonna be like have it be similar, yeah, like beautiful things, yeah, exactly. You still incorporate other materials to make it have that like luxe feel, but like is is it yeah? Okay, personal care and cosmetics, like this part is just I mean, you know, you can all it it's never ending.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Yeah, um, I feel like that's the one area that if you were like what else could you yeah, like when I think of hemp, I think of the 90s, yeah, and like that hemp we baked ourselves in this is terrible, but like when you would go to a sand, a suntan bed or like a tanning bed. Yes, yep, and they had the specific like hemp cream that you totally above. I need to get like a darker tan. I think it could smell it and it's combined with the smell of burning skin.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

Yep. God, yikes. That's an example of pairing something that's natural and good for you with something that like isn't ideal because because so hemp seed oil is rich in omega fatty acids, which hydrates and repairs dry skin without clogging pores. It has it's suitable for like anti-aging facial treatments and boosting skin elasticity. It also being UV resistant is used as an eco-friendly sunblock ingredient. I did know that because the sunblock, I don't use sunblock. So when I know I'm gonna be out in uh, which I know is like a big uh, you know, controversial, but I don't. And what but when I know I'm gonna be out in like the sun for a long time, I use this like hemp. It is like an oil, well, no, it it's like a more of a moisturizer than it is an oil. It's like mostly, if not, it's not all hemp, but it's mostly hemp. It's like pretty organic and uh and it doesn't have all the other. I mean, if you look at the ingredients list on Sunblock, it's deeply concerning.

SPEAKER_00 35:47

Anyways, right, right. So you don't need to prove yourself to me. I also don't wear suntan lotion. Yeah or whatever it's called, tanning SPF.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

Yeah, SPF, that stuff. It can be used in foundation, mascara, lipstick as a chemical-free, skin-friendly, raw material. Also has antioxidants and vitamins that reduce wrinkles and fine lines. So yeah, it's it's also used as a beard oil. I mean, the list goes on. And then moving into truly the uh second last one is uh there's so many. So food and nutrition. I think this is probably like some people will know this for sure.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

Hemp parts.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

Yeah, hemp parts.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

I literally was like, no, I can't think of a single thing. I have a full-blown Costco-sized bag of hemp hearts in my closet, right? Yes, nope, it's not in my closet. That would be weird. And my cupboard.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

In your cupboard. In my closet. Yeah, this one is just also cool because again, so like super high in protein. Obviously, not like a lot of plants have the amount of protein that some things do, like chia seeds and then also hemp hearts, but it's used as a must muscle recovery for athletes. So the high protein content in help in hemp helps muscle repair and grow after a workout. Hemp seeds have all nine essential amino acids, so it's a complete protein source, very similar to eggs. The fatty acids that we've already discussed, omega-3 for brain health, and there's a lot of like scientific-y stuff here, so but it also the fatty acids help with heart health, hormonal balance, joint and anti-inflammatory benefits, and just overall skin health. So it's like a versatile food ingredient, and then also is super high in vitamins, protein, and fat uh fatty uh acids.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

So this plant, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:40

So, like again, during an apocalypse, like this is what I want to have around. Not only, yeah, even if it was my only food source, I'm getting so many things.

SPEAKER_00 37:50

Yeah, you can like you can, it is okay. Like you could, everything will be. Are you having a steak dinner? No, but like are you finding a cow when the zombies take over? Probably not either. So yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 38:03

It also is uh used in medicine, so of course, yes, it has been used as medical use for multiple sclerosis symptom relief, Parkinson's disease symptom management, Alzheimer's and dementia support. It's also been used as a glaucoma treatment, and as a bronchodilator. So asthma symptom relief, reduction of mucus production, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, so COPD, like what grandpa had, hemp-based disinfectant and wound treatment.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

So happening. This thing is like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

So it's it's like you can have cannabis-based mouthwash. I had some of that before, antiseptic creams. It's also hemp-based autoimmune disease treatment, so lupus support, psoriasis and eczema management, Crohn's disease.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

I have eczema, I should try it on my hands.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Yeah, maybe, yeah. That would be nuts if that was the because that's been quite the journey for you.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

Can you imagine? It would just be like, hey, remember how your hand actually, you know what? They're doing much better. But like man alive, if I could get them to 100% with that'd be great.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

That'd be great. Yes, it's also been used for seizure and spasm relief. It's an anti-inflammatory medicine. It has also been used in psychotherapy and mental health. So anxiety and for example, anxiety and panic attack relief. Cannabidial, cannabidial helps calm the nervous system and eases anxiety. So we know a little bit about that with the CBD depression support. Studies suggest hemp-based CBD helps balance serotonin levels in the brain. That I used to take CBD like religiously, and I genuinely felt like it like just a few drops under my tongue, and I and like before bed.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

And I used to take it religiously when I was in university, like every single night I would have it. Yeah, I feel like it made me hallucinate a little bit. Oh, I would have really vivid dreams, but that also could just be maybe in a weirdo, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

Yeah, hard to say. Interesting. But yeah, it's also been used for to support alcohol and drug addiction recovery, insomnia and sleep disorders.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

So who like we don't even need anything else?

SPEAKER_01 40:24

Everyone should just have hemp everywhere, always.

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Everywhere, always.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

Yeah, there are more sections, just look it up sometime. There's so many articles that'll be like 531 facts about hemp, or like, or like the 1000 uses of hemp, or like there's there's a hemp and music.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Content is out. What?

SPEAKER_01 40:41

Yeah. Hemp and music is a section. Religious and ritualistic uses of hemp. We got uh naval and military uses of hemp. Oh my god. When you said naval, I thought you meant like your belly button.

SPEAKER_00 40:55

Oh, I mean, probably. It probably goes in your belly button as well and probably solves all of your health issues.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

Truly. So yeah, that's the hemp plant. Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

Kudos to you, hemp, for being such an all-star, just an unsung hero, it feels like.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Yes, it's incredible. And then obviously, yeah, it can have some um entertaining recreational qualities as well.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Okay, well, I loved that. That was so fun. Yay! Okay, now here's my problem is that I have to pee. Okay, I'll allow it. Thank you. Oh, one moment, please. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:35

Maybe while Sarah's gone, I'll tell you all a secret about her. No. That seems rude. Also, I don't know if I know any secrets about her. Also, I'm immediately insecure that I'm talking to myself. So I'm gonna go ahead and mute.

SPEAKER_00 41:56

I'm back. Okay, are you ready?

SPEAKER_01 42:02

Yep, I'm so ready. I cannot wait. I can't wait. The best thing about this podcast for me, honestly, is that we decided not to tell each other in advance the facts.

SPEAKER_00 42:11

I know it's the best thing because you literally and you're so faux. Oh, I almost just said literally. Oh, I think actually I haven't been paying attention, and I've probably said literally a few times after bumping our tires about being expert talkers. Yeah, it's the best part because I'm so focused on my topic and being like, hey, make sure that you get a good one that I that's all I'm focused on. And then once we actually start talking, I'm like, oh yeah, there's a whole other side.

SPEAKER_01 42:37

I know it's true. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Okay, so listen, I am a problem solver, I'm an educator, I am a I am trying to see the error of my ways and correct it. And so I feel like one thing that keeps coming up in our podcast is that I don't know ever when World War One is. So today I'm gonna tell you about World War One.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

Okay, I'm thrilled because I too like am embarrassed to say. And you know what though? It isn't just a U and me propos because I feel I've seen this like twice in the last like six months, whether a movie or a TV show where it's like, what did who was fighting who in that world war?

SPEAKER_00 43:36

Truly, I I just mostly am like I can envision it because I've watched movies about it. But if also I would not be like, oh yeah, that's World War One and that's World War II. And listen, I don't know anything about World War II. So, like, this truly just like that's not World War One. World War II is a whole other situation. Here we go. And it's a little bit of a traduckin, and I will explain to you why. Okay. So World War One, for everybody who has also been like, I don't know, maybe she's right in saying it's nineteen around nineteen thirty or like the nineteen twenties. Who knows? Well, I'm gonna tell you because I know now World War One lasted from nineteen fourteen to nineteen eighteen. Okay, got it. Four years. Perfect. Yes. Yes. So also here's like a quick breakdown. It began after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914. Also, it wasn't Franz Ferdinand the name of a band.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

I absolutely hope so. And good for them.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

Now that I'm thinking about it, Franz Ferdinand, or like a song or something. I'm now Googling it because oh, it was a band. A rock band. A rock band. Wow. Wow. Okay. Well, yeah. They uh oh my gosh, and they just recently had a recent album put out in 2025 called The Human Fear, which, you know, sounds very similar to why World War One started. Interesting. And they're Scottish. Good for them. And okay, so it's the Europe's Alliance system basically turned one conflict. So the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914. Europe's alliance system basically turned this one, there was gonna be like little conflict, which really diminishes the assassination of him, but one conflict into a full-blown global war. So there are obviously a couple different angles. So like one grouping of people are Britain, France, Russia, later the United States, plus countries like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. And I believe there are others too, but that's just like the high-level big boys and girls. Um and then the kind of like opposing forces, as it were, is Germany, Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire, and Bulgaria. Uh yes, yes, yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

Okay. Here's the Tredaken. I don't want to just tell you about World War One as the ins and outs, because when I'm connecting to a story, I feel like dates and like those sorts of facts, they just don't stick, obviously, because we've all learned about World War One and like, you know. Yeah. Did we really learn about World War One?

SPEAKER_01 46:43

I can so just absolutely confirm that, like, no, like, because I can't, I'm here to learn right now for the very first time.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

So let's let's go. So I'm gonna tell you and I'm gonna solidify in your brain that the dates of World War One were between 1914 and 1918 because I'm going to tell you about the unsung heroes who are the animals of World War One. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

I feel like you put a little bit of a twist in the situation. And I'm very excited about it. You're gonna tell me about the animals?

SPEAKER_00 47:25

Yes, which I think, to be honest, has some potential for some sadness because we're thinking about animals in World War One. You know, we didn't agree, but it is an interesting angle, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

Yeah, fair, and I'm thrilled. I mean, like I'm already sad, but I'm so excited to hear it. This perspective.

SPEAKER_00 47:46

There's a couple like overarching facts, I would say, from like an animal perspective. When we're thinking about World War One, we're thinking about like heavy gunfire and like, you know, tanks and like all of this stuff, and like sort of the mechanics of war. There's machine guns, there's chemical weapons, there's all sorts of these different pieces.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Right.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

But it was still very old-timey. Like horses were a significant part of the war. There were eight million horses used during World War One. So they were used for moving artillery, carrying supplies, ambulances, transporting food and ammunition. So, you know, you've got this sort of like contrast, I guess. When I'm thinking about World War One, I don't know that I immediately think about horses, but eight million horses. That's a lot of horses. It's so many. So many. Yeah. So many. And so the other animals that were like quite prevalent, just like as a large group. So the horses, and then we also have these trench cats. So trench cats were in the trenches with soldiers because they had significant rap problems. Oh my god. That's hilarious. I know. So they like you, I mean, not to the people who were in the trench. No, that's horrible, not funny at all.

SPEAKER_01 49:09

But like but a hilarious solution to a problem, like a very totally, yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

So they would like some, I was kind of like, okay, well, is this intentional or was this something that was just sort of like happened by accident? And it's a little bit of a column A, a little bit of column B. Cats would like come around looking for food and stuff like that. And then they discovered that they were so good at rodent control that they started bringing cats around. And then not only that, but they were just really good companions. So, like, you're in the throes of war, you're away from your family. It's obviously terrible. You're killing people, it's just not a good time, getting shot at, trying to stay alive. And these cats who are getting rid of these rats and like disease and all of those different pieces are also like, you know, cuddling up to you and like warming you up in the middle of the night, just being precious and adorable. So those are the trench cats. Oh my god, I love the trench cat.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

That sounds like the name for a band.

SPEAKER_00 50:03

That should absolutely be a name for a band. Oh my god. If no one is called the trench cat, I don't, I mean, what are we even doing? Honestly, the misuse of hemp and the misuse of the term trench cat for a band are the major travesties out of this whole scenario that we've identified that are significant. Well, you're welcome to whoever jumps on that because immediate immediate success, obviously. Uh okay, so that's sort of like general animals that were just like present during the war. Now I'm gonna tell you about specific animals. Okay. So the first story is about Cher Ami. And so this is a pigeon, and this pigeon saved nearly 200 soldiers. Oh my goodness. So communication during World War One constantly failed. There was always issues with it. There, I feel like are full-blown movies about how like treacherous it was, and how like the things would be intercepted or just quite simply wouldn't work. So radios were unreliable, phone lines were destroyed in like just the rubble of the war, runners were killed crossing battlefields, so like communication was very difficult. So armies actually relied heavily on pigeons. And so I know. Imagine uh hundreds of lives depending entirely on a bird, and like a bird that we do not have very high regard for.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

I was just gonna say, like, we're pretty, we're pretty awful. I personally paint a pigeon.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Get out of my way. Yeah, get out of here, you air rat. Like you're just it's not, they're not, you know, but apparently they're very intelligent. They were used heavily for communication um because they were very trainable, and and so they used them a lot if specifically for communication. So enter share me. An American battalion becomes trapped behind Emily. Emily Emily lines. And even worse, their own side mistakenly begins shelling them, which I can only assume means shooting at them. So they're stuck behind Emily. Oh my god, why can't I see Emily? We're stuck behind Emily. They were hanging out with Emily and they were pissed about it. No, they're stuck behind enemy lines, and we've got a bunch of people on the same team that are basically like, we see people over there, get them. They're obviously bad, they're behind enemy lines. So they're trapped and they send pigeons for help. They're basically like, we need to get these people to understand that like we are not bad guys, we're good guys, and we need to like get back to them, basically. So they send a pigeon. This is where it gets sad, shot. Second pigeon, shot. So sorry. And then they release the final and third pigeon that they have, and this is Cherami. So Cherami is actually kind of like shot at too, but the perseverance of this little bird keeps flying, and when the pigeon arrives, they see that it is shot through the chest, blinded in one eye, and a leg is nearly gone. Oh my god, that's so sad. But the message itself survives and the shelling stops. So basically, this 194 soldiers were saved because this pigeon passed, which is very, very sad. But also, like, imagine how reliant we are on how connected we are today. Like, can you imagine a situation where you're like, I need to send a pigeon to let somebody know anything at all, let alone life and death situation? Not one, but three and hope for the best. And hope for the best. And you're just like, well, if this third one doesn't work out, then I guess we are gonna get murdered by our own people. Like, how crazy.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

That is wild. I wonder if they named them before or after. Oh, that one made me. Let us name it.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

You deserve being named. The other two are pigeon one and pigeon two. Poor God. Let's pretend that they did name them. Okay, I like that. And probably held little acknowledgement funerals for them as well to put like thank you for your service. Excellent. I think I saw a note in there about that. So that is our little friend Pigeon. Now, now we have Surgent Stubby. Yes. And now this is a dog that actually outranked other soldiers. Oh my gosh. So the stray dog wanders into an American training camp and somehow becomes a war hero. Stubby, as he was so affectionately named, reportedly warns soldiers about gas attacks. So would like come in and basically warn them and alert them to the fact that a gas attack would be coming. He would go out and find wounded men. He would obviously boost morale because dogs are awesome.

SPEAKER_02 55:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:32

And then he would, he had learned military bugle calls. So he would like operate at follow the different calls, like operate with the battalion. Yes, he was a very, very amazing little fellow. And so he allegedly caught one of the his sort of like claims to fame was allegedly catching a German spy by the pants and refusing to let go. Oh my goodness. He became so famous. Newspapers covered him. He met presidents, he marched in parades. Obviously, he should get his dues. Eventually, he was promoted to being a sergeant. Is it I thought it was sergeant, but it's pr but it's spelled C-E-R-G-E-A-N-T. Surgent? Are we in a parallel universe?

SPEAKER_01 56:23

Right. I mean, you're asking the wrong person. I would say sergeant, but yeah, the spelling is confusing to me.

SPEAKER_00 56:29

Oh my god. Is sergeant even a thing?

SPEAKER_01 56:32

I don't know, but this could be next two weeks episode. I don't know. I feel like I would say sergeant. Yeah, I think sergeant feels worse. Sergeant. Isn't that a kind of fish as well? Anyway, that doesn't matter. Oh I know that's a sturgeon. Different. We got surgeons, we got sturgeons, we got surgeons.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

And it's user error on all fronts. Yeah, absolutely. I think so. I think it is actually no wait. It says, while it is pronounced with an R sound, the ear spelling reflects its French origins. Sargent is a very common misspelling, but is all it is not the official, no, but it is not I can't read. Good. But it is not the officially accepted spelling for the military or police rank. So it's actually it is spelt sergeant, but it's pronounced sergeant.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

Okay, I'm cool.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

Full of facts, you're welcome. Now you won't look foolish when you're talking to your sergeant friends. Anyways, so yes, he was promoted to a sergeant and he definitely said sergeant so many times. He was pronounced to a sergeant, which meant that he outranked many, many other officers. Wow. Yeah. I didn't just like if you're gonna get outranked, be have it be by a dog.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

Most definitely. I actually did know, not necessarily about Stubby, but I did know about other dogs. I was actually at one point gonna do a tell me something you don't know on dog heroes.

SPEAKER_00 58:13

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 58:14

And there was quite a few that were like involved in.

SPEAKER_00 58:18

You save that because I that's something I want to know about.

SPEAKER_01 58:21

Okay, I will.

SPEAKER_00 58:22

Now we're gonna move on to Jackie, and Jackie is a military baboon. Oh my god. So in South Africa, they actually enlisted Jackie the baboon into the military. Wow. An actual baboon. She wore a uniform. She sounded off. Oh, I assumed it was a woman just based on the name, but I suppose I should not have assumed that. Now that I'm looking at my notes, I don't actually see any sort of defining like whether it's a woman or but you know what? For the purposes of this story, it's definitely a woman. Perfect. So she wore a uniform, she saluted officers, she accompanied troops, and she reportedly warned soldiers about approaching danger. So again, like using the instincts of animals to kind of like be like, listen, you're on our team, you tell us when bad things are gonna happen and we'll protect you. It's a give-take. Oh my gosh. So the soldiers became obsessed with him. Damn it. That's okay. That's all right. That's all right. I bet there were lots of female bamboons that helped. Yes. So Jackie was reportedly injured during battle and later received a medal and was promoted to corporal and got military discharge papers. So like was treated as an actual soldier.

SPEAKER_01 59:48

Oh my goodness. That's incredible. I mean and and the like the morale. Like, I mean, I would just be like, please let me be. Please let me be part of the team that has a bam. Wait, what kind of wait?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

Nope. You I want to listen to you sound it out. Is that the kind of monkey? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. But wait, what what is the kind of monkey?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

Bam boom. Bam. Bam bam. Baboon. Yeah. Thank God.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

Oh no. That is a monkey, okay?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:30

Also, those guys are so intense looking. When I was in Arizona and we went to the zoo, they had a couple of them there, and I was just like, oh man, I would not want to run into you in the middle of the jungle. You are monkeys in general, actually, are like, think about a gorilla. Oh, they are strong. Yeah, like they are all muscle and so scary and would just like Yeah, yeah. I think that they are incredibly like territorial.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:55

I think if you're gonna come around and you pose a threat and they don't want you around, then you won't be around. It doesn't matter what you got on you.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:02

It does not matter. They will take you out. So you better befriend them. You try and be their friend first, and even still, yeah. Yikes to you. So those are the stories of the unsung heroes. And just to kind of put it again into perspective, we have the horses. The pigeons were a huge part as well. So eight million horses were used, more than 100,000 pigeons were used during the war. Oh my god. Because they were often more faster. That's what I was gonna say. They were often faster and more reliable than technology. So other animals that were used were horses, pigeons, dogs, obviously, cats, donkeys, camels, and even obviously the bamboo. No baboon! And it's even right in front of me. I'm literally reading it. That's so bad. That's awesome. Excellent. That is my story about animals in World War One, which again took place between 1914 and 1918. Okay, that's excellent.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

I feel I won't ever forget the dates, and I just I have a new appreciation for all animals. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

That's a but again, it's like sad because obviously they didn't have a choice. They were like, we are enlisting, we will also help.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:34

Like they were like it's at least nice to know that like the humanity side of it is like they did do things that honored the animals in ways where it's like the you you easily as a human beings could be like it's an animal, like forget about it. Like, thanks, but like bye, like you're an animal. Yeah, but like to do those kinds of things, it's like, yeah, let's please recognize the situation. Like, you wouldn't even be here, right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:00

And then also, like, again, morale. Like, I would if I was part of the battalion that had stubby, I'd be like, I was part of Sergeant Stubby's battalion, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:08

Most definitely I met that dog, so absolutely, yes, that would be the main thing that I would talk about afterwards.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:15

Well, that was the good one. Uh hemp and animals in World War One. And then, like, who knows what happened in World War II? Not me.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:25

Not me.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:26

Might be that'll have to be a topic for another day. That's right. Absolutely. I don't even know. I truthfully don't even know who was involved in World War II.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:36

Do you? Do you know who was involved in World War I?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:39

We yes. Oh Britain? I just told you. Okay, but like who was mad at who? Because here's the thing. Okay, here's my takeaway, and this could be totally wrong because this is not, this is just based off of like the quick notes that I read. I think this Franz Ferdinand guy got assassinated, and England was basically like unacceptable, or Britain was out was like, nope, absolutely not. And then it was, I think in a lot of cases when it comes to war, it's basically like one thing happens and they view it as like, okay, this is the thing that will allow us to go to war, so let's really ramp it up. I think it's like one thing happened in Britain, and then they were like, all right, guys, like all right, team, we're going in and you better back us. Yeah, yeah. And then we're like, Yes, we will back you because war is quite lucrative.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

Yes, for sure. Which is like how, yeah, which is to this day the main reason behind it. I do know that World War II, actually, between the two of them, I definitely know more about World War II, but that's just because I feel like we'd learned a lot about like Nazi Germany. But do I know the other players? Where that's tied in. Yeah, okay. But the other players involved, like, not necessarily I don't like know which is horrible. But like, like it's not great to not know these things, but I just, you know, don't. I feel like it would have been if I cared more in school about attaining information and like educating myself, I think history would have been one of the easier ones to like consume and sit in and listen on because it would have been it's just it's interesting to learn about all the stuff that's like happened before us, and ultimately it's going to be told to you in like a story format. But they didn't do a very, or at least I don't know, I feel like the school system doesn't do an excellent job of making they make it so boring.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:39

Yeah, they make it so boring, and also I just did a quick search, and Archiduke Franz Ferdinand is definitely from Austria. I'm like, I thought he was British because it said in my notes Oh my god. Lightly researched, folks. Lightly researched. Researched. Oh no. Yeah, it says here, Franz Ferdinand was the eldest son of the Archduke Carl Ludwig of Austria, the younger brother of Emperor Franz Joseph I of Austria. Following the death death of the Crown Prince Rudolf in 1889, the death of Carl Ludwig in 1896, Franz Ferdinand became the heir, presumptive to the Astro-Hungarian throne. His courtship. Oh, so okay, he's on the opposing side.

unknown 1:06:37

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

In my brain, Britain was like, uh-uh, you can't mess with our Ferdinand. And then they're like, we're going to war. But he was on the opposing side. Oh no. I did a terrible job, but now we know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

But we got there eventually.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:56

We at least got the dates in our brains. And then now. Yeah. Franz Ferdinand's assassination led to the July crisis and the and precipitated Austria-Hungary's declaration of war against Serbia, which in turn triggered a series of events that eventually led four weeks after his death to Austria-Hungary's allies and Serbia's allies declaring war on each other starting World War One. Okay. So why didn't we all get involved in that? Oh my God. I have more questions now than I did at the beginning. Oh my God. Yeah, I mean so I'm reframing mine to really just solidify the dates and not actually advise you anything about World War One aside from the dates of which it happened, which I do feel are gonna stick with me now.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

Plus, we do have the fun slash sad facts of the animals involved. So like indeed, we need these in we need it in bite-sized pieces for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:58

We can't be tackling all of World War One in one podcast episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:03

Yeah, no, we can't. And ultimately, I think that we can like summarize the reason and cause for most wars and the involvement of countries that don't need to like be involved, but somehow are, is like power, money, and then likely just like jump resources.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:24

Like behind the also like behind the door handshakes of being like, all right, are we doing this? We're doing this, we're doing this, we're doing this. Like, is this when we're gonna trigger it? Okay, cool. But looking at because looking at this, like I think his wife was maybe assassinated. Their assassination, yeah, his wife was assassinated as well. These people look so fancy. Like, if you Google them, Franz Ferdinand and his wife is Sophie. I mean, right, it is crazy that they triggered all of these people to go to war and like countries to go into full-blown depressions. Yeah, like what what everyone needs to buy hemp and be self-sufficient off of hemp so that when an archduke bishop of wherever the F gets assassinated, we are just over here being like, you know what, you guys sort that out. We have our hemp. Yeah, so we're good. So we're good over here. Thank you. We're good. Get over here. You're you big powers that be that are getting in a tizzy about about your assassinations. You go how go sit in a room and talk it out instead. And maybe utilize some of our hemp products to calm your nerves.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:36

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:38

So there it is. You're welcome for hard hitting journalism, as always, um, and educating you on probably 0.09% of a topic. Yep, that's correct. Bye. Bye.