Something Was Watching From the Dark | True Paranormal Police Stories

Police officers and first responders are often called into the strange, dangerous, and unexplained. But sometimes the call itself is the mystery.

In this episode, we share paranormal and supernatural stories involving law enforcement, EMTs, firefighters, dispatchers, and other first responders—from a woman in white who should have been dead, to a fatal crash with an impossible fleeing driver, to a 911 call that may have come from beyond the grave.

Some stories are chilling. Some are strangely comforting. And some leave everyone involved asking the same question:

What exactly did they respond to?

New episodes released regularly.

Join Paranormal Mystery Author Terri Reid and researcher Andrew T. Reid as they explore ghosts, cryptids, alien encounters, and other unexplained mysteries.

If you'd like to share your opinion, thoughts, or your own paranormal experience with us, please contact us at vftattic@gmail.com. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Two patrol officers found a woman in white, barefoot, wandering around a graveyard past midnight. They asked her what she was doing, and she said she was lost. So they brought her back to the station. At the station, this detective was on duty with his partner, who handled the woman's case. His partner took down her details and let her go. The detective never saw her face, only his partner did. But he remembers seeing her back as she walked out of the station. And for some reason, she was tiptoeing as she left. His partner ran her ID and her name through the system after she left. And apparently, she was supposed to be dead.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Listen closely. Old walls still speak. Some things are hidden, not to be forgotten, but to be kept. The old house remembers what others forget.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

What is remembered is never true.

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Listen closely, and you too may just hear voices from the attic.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Also, I'm a son. I always forget that one. I know it. I know it, but I always forget it until I look over. I'm like, oh crap, she's a mom. I'm a son.

SPEAKER_03 1:45

I don't know if I love oh crap, she's a mom, but hi, I'm Terry Reed. Oh crap, she's a mom. Guys, scatter. Right? That's um, hi, I'm Terry Reed. I'm an author, um, a podcaster, a researcher, um, a mom, and a lover of all things ghostly and paranormal and scary and spooky and doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. Boogie boogie boogie boogie. But I have to admit, sometimes a coward because I've been invited to scary places. I was like, yeah, I'll just write about them.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Although I have been in some scary places, but I mean I will say, um this is a huge detour, a huge sidetrack. We've mentioned that we we uh live near the city of Freeport. Uh recently I did a thing at the Masonic Temple, and I was talking to one of the guys who works there, and he talked about, he mentioned the ghost tours that they do at the Masonic Temple. Um and I may or may not go to one of those if I can. Um I don't know what they do there. I hope that they don't do anything, you know. I I hope that they just go in there with typical equipment and they don't do anything like, you know. Ouija's? Yeah. I don't I don't want there to be a Luigi board. Yeah. Um, I don't want the board to go, yahoo! Uh, because that would be bad. Um but like the joke. Thank you. Thank you. I had to I had to double down on that joke to make sure. No, you said because that would be bad, and I said like your joke. Oh, like my joke. I'm like I said, I'm gonna double down on that joke. Um it was a great joke in my mind, anyway. Um but yeah, also with the story, you mentioned she you mentioned that she's standing on her tiptoes. Yeah, she's tiptoeing as she left. And so that then thought that that made me think in my mind, you probably haven't seen um Insidious.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

No.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

There's uh so yeah, so Insidious is a scary movie. Okay, and it took the the song from Tiny Tim.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Tiptoe through the woods.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

I can't, I can't, yeah, with the with the and made it super creepy.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

And so I gotta say, it started off fairly creepy.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

The first time I heard it, it was in Spongebob, and so it made it a little less creepy because of association, but now again because of association, it is like extra creepy because it, you know, spooky things happen. So they slow it.

SPEAKER_05 4:20

No, no, they slow it.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

No, it's just it's it starts playing on a um on some kind of I I don't was some kind of recorder. I don't think it was tape, I think it's the the like a record or something, like a record player.

SPEAKER_03 4:34

Could it be like a music box? Is it the ting ting ting?

SPEAKER_01 4:37

No, no, no. It was it was the normal, it was a recording of it. And but you could hear like the the hiss of of the the record.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

Right, okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

And so and and as a I think as it's playing, there's like there's a window that is open and you see a shadow just kind of like go past. Incious is one of those movies that the first watch is terrifying. It is so scary. The second watch is hilarious because they rely a little bit on startled jump scares. Okay. And so, you know, when you there's there's a scene where you know they're they're cutting back and forth. It's the most iconic scene of the of the thing. Uh, and there's a guy who everyone now says is uh discount uh Darth Maul. Um and so you know they're they're cutting back and forth, and then they cut back to the guy, and it's like out of nowhere, this this red demon dude is like staring down at this guy and kind of like almost at the camera. Uh, and then it cuts back to the other reaction. She's like in the theater, that was horrifying.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:43

Now that is so funny because it's just like, are you okay, guy? What's wrong? Who hurt you? But uh do you need a tie-in on? Are you EP? Do you need a nap? Okay, so now going back to the that was that was a huge squirrel. That was a huge detour.

SPEAKER_03 6:03

We have warned you though that we're both ADHD, and so this often happens in our podcast. So hopefully you enjoy the side trips that we take.

SPEAKER_05 6:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:11

We are quest. Actually, recording this um Memorial Weekend. And um, and uh hopefully from the cold open, you could tell that we are gonna be talking about police officers. Yep, yep. Police officers, law enforcement people, first responders. Um, and and we just, you know, want to take the time to say how much we appreciate those those men and women, first of all, our armed services, the men and women who um gave the ultimate sacrifice for us that we should be thinking about over this memorial weekend. And um, and and their families, you know, as a mom who had two sons serving, I can tell you that families deal with uh a lot of emotional trauma, terror, as you know, it's is especially when there's no communication and your son is in like Afghanistan and you're thinking, well, you don't even have to have a writer's mind to imagine all the things you're imagining. So I know that every day when um the spouses and the families of police officers um watch their loved one go to work, they realize, you know, there's a real potential that they're not coming home. So we want to uh thank the first responders, their families, um, and and especially those who are families of those who have made the ultimate sacrifice for us because we know that the freedoms that we enjoy are not free. People have paid for them. And so um thank you.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Yeah, thank you. Thank you. And and um part of uh part of this episode in honor of that, and in honor of you know, remembering everything that you've done. We did want to um have this episode come from um come from stories that you guys have, uh those who are who are serving, uh especially and and we're focusing on the people who are serving, probably whether it's a I'm probably mostly the United States, but just law enforcement in general. Um, we're focusing on on uh their stories uh because you know, we've kind of mentioned that um there are certain careers, certain jobs that have more uh uh opportunities to experience paranormal things. Um, you know, hospitals, I think they're they definitely have that potential, but it's usually more of a of a spiritual side of things. But when it comes to experiencing all the other things, there are two careers that definitely I think experience the most weirdness, and that's gonna be number one, the military, which we won't be talking about this time around. Um that might be saved for you know like Veterans Day or something like that. That's a good idea. Yeah, I I th I thought so too. Um but this one, uh the second one, and it the second one we're gonna be talking, or the the the second career that has a lot of opportunity is um law enforcement. Because I mean law enforcement are the people who get called in when something weird is happening, when something's going down. Like there are so many times where you like they have to go and put themselves in danger to go look at something. And and sometimes even a mundane call can become super odd and bizarre. Uh, and it's not only just that too, like there are just so many opportunities that people in law enforcement can um run into something that is completely unexplainable. And so that's what we're gonna be mostly talking about today.

SPEAKER_03 9:52

I just have to throw in a real short story. Absolutely. Because, you know, I do so I I do reason we did research for this, but also every time um in in my books, every year, I do uh a short story that's a compilation of shorter stories called Tales Around the Jack-o-Lantern, and it's Mary O'Reilly's family who are mostly police officers. Yeah, or police officers, and that what they have to do is on Halloween night after the trick-or-treaters have gone home, they sit around in a living room or something around a jack-o'-lantern, and they all have to tell a story, a true story that happened to them.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

Which I gotta say, that premise I think is hilarious. Not hilarious, but I think the frequency of times like I have had a few paranormal encounters. I can't say that I've had a new one every year reliably. And so the fact that they can do that, and and granted, if you're going out, if you're a police officer, you do have more opportunities for that. But I know of some several police officers who've never had, or at least will never admit to ever having anything weird happen. Um, but um, yeah, they the the frequency that they have to all like a lot of weird things happening, I think is that's that's I think a fun part of of the story.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

And it's fictional.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

It's also fictional.

SPEAKER_03 11:12

So they can have they can't they can do whatever I want them to do. So basically, though, to get these stories, I will comb through um like Reddits and um websites that that police officers will will tell these stories, and then I'll take them and fictionalize them for my characters. And and so, and and some of the stories are not specifically law enforcement, some of them are will go back, they'll go back to their childhood and say, well, this happened, or you know, those kinds of things happened. So, but they are all true stories that I then fictionalize to fit the this. So I've done a lot of research into these kinds of stories, and and they're really interesting. But uh, as I was doing one, there's one, it's just real short, but it was like, I totally get this one. It says about three in the morning, the sound activated alarms at the local school were triggered. The reason? They picked up on small children laughing. Mmm, the cop gave that a big nope, just half-heartedly shown a spotlight on the area from his moving car. And I thought, totally get that. Understandable. You gotta there's sometimes you just gotta say nope, nope, nope. Yep, yes, yep.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

No, so I mean, and I understand, I understand the reasoning, the thought process behind it, especially if like the the lights are off right in this building. No child is going to be in an in an old school in the dark at three o'clock in the morning. Yeah, three at the witching hour. No child is doing that. And so I absolutely understand. You're not gonna go in and and no child that you want to meet. That's true. That is very true. Yeah, maybe Satan's child would would be in there giggling. Um but as yeah, police officers, you know, they bullets won't stop the undead. So um Yeah. So that was uh so uh I mean I was gonna say you've had experiences working with uh police where similar things have you had you have your own spooky police I okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:27

So I have two stories. One uh I wasn't involved in. The one was um there was a there's a store in downtown Freeport that at one point was like a they call it an okie dokie store. It's like a 7-Eleven, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Okay, like a gas station.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Yeah, but it was not it was just a convenience. A convenience store that yes, very convenient, very convenient, and it actually backed up to this old brownstone that was a multi-apartment brownstone. And and in the early days of this store, you the residents of the old brownstone would cut through the store. There was a front entrance and a back entrance and uh uh early days, and I'm you know talking like 50s, you know, 1950s. 1950s, okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

Because early days in Freeport can go like that's that's eighteen hundreds.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

I don't know if they had convenience stores, but it was like it was an early convenience, yeah, 50s, 60s. This and so um so the owner of this okie dokie store is the one that told me the story. So they um they knew they had a ghost, you know, and what would happen is yeah, it was it was a small store, and uh they usually had just one employee, you know, a cashier during during hours, and um these cashiers would, you know, hear something, cans falling off of shelves, um, back where they had like the fresh coffee, somebody would move the um the coffee crafts off of the out of the way where the coffee dripped into it and put it on the counter so the the coffee would just spill out onto the floor.

SPEAKER_05 15:00

That's rude.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

And they're just all these things, but they would also see this little old man in a brown suit, and he'd come in and then he wouldn't leave. And um he wouldn't be there. And he said he kind of lost a lot of cashiers that way. They just didn't understand.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Well, if you're if you have your cashiers be there by themselves, right? And that I mean, there are games uh that are like uh convenience store simulators that are also like they're scary convenience store simulators. Okay. Where everything you just described are things that happen in these games where you are a convenience, yeah, you are uh cashier in a convenience store and all these spooky things happen, and it's like, okay, that's you know, when you can choose to do it, it's fun. Right. When you are employed to do it and and like you actually have to be there for hours, it becomes a lot less fun, a lot more stressful.

SPEAKER_03 15:54

Well, and let me add, I didn't add, so uh when he owned it, it was beyond, you know, it was sooner. It it it was um probably in the 80s or 90s. Gotcha. And so the the the cut through that the people used to use was no longer cut through. They had put um oh, what are the the locks that are bolts? Um dead bolts deadbolts, dead bolts, but with a key and it locked from the inside. So um nobody so the employees couldn't even open it. You know, it was it was dead bolt. It was deadbolted, but it wasn't undeadbolted. That was very good.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 16:29

Um so he said one night he gets a call in the middle of the night from um the police, and there was an officer doing foot patrol in downtown Freeport, and he saw somebody in their the store. So he called other patrols, so they all kind of went around. So nobody nobody exited the building from when he saw the initial perpetrator, what he thought. And so he called this fellow to come with his keys and unlock the the the store so they could get in and arrest this. You know, so he gave them the keys, they unlocked it, and he was saying, you know, there can't be anybody in my store because I have a motion detective alarm system, and uh it it's really not detecting anything, nothing.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

No motion has been detected.

SPEAKER_03 17:20

No motion has been they said, no, no, no, visual. We visually saw, and so a whole bunch of policemen went in and you know they did the Charlie Angels, you know, they held up their guns and and so they checked.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

There was one police officer who was crouched down back to back with another police officer who was standing up, right? Both their guns pointed up to the to the ceiling.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

That's right, and their hair is blowing in the wind. Anyway, so they go through all of the the aisles, they check everything out, they confirm that that back door is locked tight, and they can't find anybody. And so the original cop who had seen somebody came out to the owner, gave him his keys, and said and the the owner said, So who did you see? And the cop said it was this little old man in a brown suit. And the owner said, Well, oh, you just saw our ghost. You just saw Earl, Earl. So, yeah, just saw the ghost. And so that was one. And then the other experience I had was, and we're gonna talk about theaters. We're gonna do another show about theater.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

We have one planned out, but it's gonna be a little bit later because we're gonna have a special guest on here for that one.

SPEAKER_03 18:31

So who has theater experience in ghosts? Really good ghost story about a theater, a local theater. She is a vespian. Yes, and so our my daughter Jenny is coming to visit. And so, and she shout out to Jenny and shout out to Eric. Eric uh texted me and said, Grandma, I love your podcast. So I love that. So Eric, how's it going?

SPEAKER_01 18:55

I'm glad you're liking this. If you want us to shout you out, then go ahead and just you know, let us let us know. Not not I'm talking to everyone, but also Eric, if you want us to shout you out, it's too late. We've already done it. We will do it again.

SPEAKER_03 19:07

So he's doing this.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Yeah, please stop talking about me. I don't want this.

SPEAKER_03 19:13

So, anyway, so um I'm at Winnichek because I helped write a um a play.

SPEAKER_01 19:24

Winnishek um is our local community theater. Uh, the community theater itself, not the building, but the community theater itself is the longest running community theater in the United States. Um longest consecutive. Oh, longest running amateur. There we go. Um community theater. Yes. Yeah, I forgot the amateur part. It is not the longest running theater in general, but yeah, the longest running amateur community theater in the United States. Thank you, Ash. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Uh Ash, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

Ash with the facts. Um Ash who knows what what was it? What was the comment that said? Ash who knows all. Who knows all? Who knows all. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Um, and that was his wife. So, you know, very rare for a woman to admit that.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

So it's gonna be a lot more difficult for her to win arguments later. Yeah, she's just banking, you know, points. Smart. Smart woman. But that's that's the way our relationship goes. It works. I'm not messing with it. I'm not gonna, I I like the formula. I'm not gonna switch it up.

SPEAKER_03 20:25

But so anyway, so we're we've uh it's a Saturday morning, and um uh we're we're doing auditions for this because it's a musical. So I need we need to hear people sing, and you know, so I open the front door and then I go into the back and I open the back door, and the back door is basically where we're holding. Through the back door, you get to the stage and stuff, and so that's where we're holding the auditions. And so we have auditions for about two or three hours. It's a long Saturday morning, and then we're done, and we leave through the back door, lock everything up, I get in my car, and I'm probably a mile or two away heading home, and I realize, oh crap, I left the front door open.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

So I know.

SPEAKER_03 21:10

So I turn around and I go back and I park my uh car in front of the theater, and then I walk in through the front door and I hear footsteps on the second floor above me. And the second floor is is that's where the costuming is, that's where the sound equipment is. I mean, it's it there's some good stuff up there. And so, okay, so this was not very smart. So then I go into the ticket booth, I don't exit the building, I go into the ticket area and I call and this is kind of before cell phones, or it's cell phones weren't a big thing. So I need to use a phone.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

So I go in and what uh what what decade was this nineties?

SPEAKER_03 21:50

I was pregnant with you.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Okay, so this is nineties.

SPEAKER_03 21:52

So yeah. Mid nineties. So I um call the police and I say, Hey, and they say, Where are you? and I say, Oh, I'm Standing in the building. I said, um, ma'am, get out of the building.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

She oh she's trying to have the uh the beginning of every single scary movie happen where she is she is the the the first white woman to get killed by someone.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

Someone, yeah. So um so the only exits to the building, there's there's the backstage and the front and the front. And um, but if you stand on the corner, you can view both of those at the same time. And so I stood on the corner waiting for the police. I went outside, stood on the corner, and nobody exited the building. So police come and it's several units that come. And um they ask me what I saw, and they say, okay, stand in, and they say, if anyone comes out, shout.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

I'm thinking won't be too difficult.

SPEAKER_03 22:50

I probably will do that anyway, without you even asking. So they all go in, and I I'm thinking there's like six uh policemen going through this fairly small community.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

It's decent, it's got three floors, you know, it's got a basement, it's got uh a first a creepy, scary, awful basement. Yeah, I mean, everything everything in that building is creepy, like it with uh it was probably built in like the 60s or the 70s.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

It looks like a Brady Bunch.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Earlier.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

No, the thirties. I yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

It was it was built, yeah, 1930s. Uh it's brick, it's it's a beautiful stage. It's a smaller theater. Uh at least like the the the seating room. When I I guess when I say smaller, I'm talking like compared to other theater. It's like what seats a hundred? Do you do you know how many?

SPEAKER_03 23:38

It might be two hundred.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

Go ahead. I think it seats about 198. It's just under 200. Okay. Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

So but but like any there there are there's a lobby, there's a theater, then there's like the back theater area where that's where the stairs up to the green room slash uh light system and everything. That's where, but every single room sound booth. And sound booth. And then also there's the basement where they they hold all of the old furniture. And sets and things like that. And that's all got cloth over it, which adds that extra creepy spooky.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

And it's like a limestone basement.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything about this building. I don't understand. I've been in other theaters where it's not nearly as creepy. Everything about this theater is creepy, it sets off the creep factor with the, especially if you're by yourself with the lights off.

SPEAKER_03 24:28

Yes. So, policemen go obviously, check out all three floors, come out and say to me, this obviously pregnant woman who uh is all by herself. Um, so we've checked it out. We couldn't find anybody, and they hand me the keys and they said, So you can go back in and turn off all the lights. I think, well, thank you so much. So I have to say, turning off because the basement, you have to walk down to the basement to turn off those lights.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

That's why they didn't do it. I know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:01

And you still heard stuff.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

I was gonna say the implication there absolutely is we didn't find anything. We didn't, we were find anybody. Yeah, we didn't find anybody. We there was no place for somebody to be hiding. We know that there is nobody in the building, but we still are hearing things. That's right. So here you go. You can deal with that because we can't we can't handle that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

Good luck, sweetie.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

So I mean, that that building, I mean, this is a tangent again, but like don't give away stuff that we're gonna talk about in the theater thing. I'm not gonna, okay. I I retract anything I was gonna say. That's a special sneak peek for an upcoming video we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

So, yes, so I have had, and you know what? I have to say, I I don't know the motivation. I didn't say, well, wait, why didn't you, you know, maybe that's protocol, maybe that's what they do. I I don't know. Freaked me out. But but I uh these stories will once again reiterate the crazy stuff that police officers, law enforcement people have to deal with, not just uh pregnant women hearing noises in a theater. So, Andrew, do you want me to turn it over to you for a story? Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

Okay, good. Uh so this one is from officer.com. Uh officer.com. There there are two um, I guess three technically, if you include Reddit, but there are there are primarily two websites that I use to find stories for. The first one is officer.com, which is um there are a lot of police officers and whatnot that uh law enforcement officers that use this uh website. And this particular forum, which I will say the original data back to 2018.

SPEAKER_03 26:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

Um, but it's um the story itself says we tell a few stories about paranormal supernatural encounters and experiences the law officers had while in the line of duty. They basically called out and said, Hey, everyone who's who's uses officer.com, who uses this forum site, um, or forumslash, you know, um news site and whatnot. Um, what are some experiences that you've had? And then they reshared them. Oh, okay. In this thing. That's what uh police won, which is the other uh uh website that I'll be using. That's also what they did. But this one's called Bumps in the Night. And so this was uh contributed by um a retired deputy, James Aiken. I think that's how you pronounce that name, or Aken. Anyway. The following uh the following happenings took place during the fall of 1993 to the spring of 1994. The complaint, the complainant was an elderly man and his wife who lived on a remote farm in rural Pike County, Georgia. It seems that he had been experiencing a prowler on and off for several weeks. However, the prowler was never actually clearly seen, neither was there much evidence, at least until the end of these events, to corroborate there actually was anyone or anything causing a real disturbance. I would arrive at the home, I would exit the patrol car, and I would smell the monster, as the old man liked to describe the intruder, the smell which I then attributed to the swamp or a nearby neighbor's livestock. Then after exiting the car, it was a quick walk up the stairs and a knock on the door, as he wouldn't open until the door uh as he wouldn't open the door until he heard a human voice. Yeah, that I already right there. I mean, I get I get two vibes. I either get there's something weird going on, or probably what he's thinking, this guy has been on something either in the past or current.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Or or if he's elderly, yeah, onsets of dementia and things like that. That's also fair.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

They were elderly, so that that's also fair. So he's probably not he's probably thinking they're not thinking too clearly. Right. Anyway, sheriff's department, I'd call to the interior of his home. The door would rattle and he'd open the door. Often he would be visibly shaken. He was an elderly man and his vision was failing him. Did you see anything when you came in? He'd ask. No, sir, I'd reply. Well, it's been at it tonight. It was tapping on the house and it was trying to see us in here. It even came to the front door and it was trying to open the doorknob. The complaint uh the complainant would share it with me. Then after some brief discussion, I would sweep around the outside of the house and look over the yard area. Generally I'd see nothing. Mostly I smell the awful smell. So something like a pig pen with wet dog and rotting garbage all combined. I gotta say, I'm thinking dogman Bigfoot as I'm listening. Sorry. Yeah, no, no. I mean, that that's I know that there's a lot of smells. We didn't even talk about that with our last dogman episode, but there is definitely a smell associated with that, and that could be it. I will also say I've been on a pig farm. Pig is the worst smell. Oh, yeah. It's awful. And so pig pen mixed with anything is terrible. Right. Um, but he even though he smelled that, going back to it, but never anything substantial in the terms of physical evidence. I'll admit that I was often spooked when it uh when I did the normal prowler prowler survey. The hair on my arm would stand up and I'd have that being watched feeling. Then I'd check back with the homeowner, report that I had found nothing, and I would go back into service. This scenario was repeated over the several months. I had to respond to this man's calls for help. Please don't think that I minded attempting to help him. I was a sworn deputy, and it was my duty to answer all calls and provide service. I attempted to take it all seriously, but in all honesty, I had my doubts of the veracity of his complaints. In my mind, I thought that this man was the victim of some type of prank. I figured that he was being harassed, and I felt like someone was trying to uh was going to great lengths to drive the old man and his wife out of their home. Like Scooby-Doo almost. Yeah, yeah. Meddling kids. Yeah. Well, I it seems like most um most Scooby-Doo villains tend to be people who are looking for real estate. They're trying to scare everyone out of the and so, you know, I mean the writer of Scooby-Doo had a bad experience with a real estate person. Well, I mean obviously what other reason is there for somebody to scare everyone off their property. That's right. I mean, I I mean I get it. There's oil in them their hills. There's gold. There's gold in them, their hills. Black gold, Texas T. At the very least, I thought some natural phenomena was causing the him disquiet and that he was mistaking it for a human presence. In fact, it slowly was escalating, and as I'll document, you'll see an intensification of nighttime activities and an increase in the level of threat or violence toward the elderly couple. In the beginning, during the first weeks, the victim complained of some person tapping on his home and attempting to see inside the domicile. He stated that between the hours of 12 AM and 6 a.m., a strange light tapping would take place on the exterior of his home. He described it as a drumming sound. Like fingertips on a school desk. Like I don't know if you can hear that. Can you hear this? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

How about Does that kill you? Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

What I just in case. I'm gonna I'm gonna what what around what time is that? Just to I just Okay. I'm I'm only checking that to, you know.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Okay. In case I blow everybody away.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

In case I need to I in case I need to turn down the volume of that a little bit. So he stated that these unknown that the unknown assailant would circle the exterior of the home making these noises. Of course the couple was in bed and at first didn't make much of the noises. I thought they were from a bird's oh quote, I thought they were from a bird's wings or some kind of animal, he described to me. So they would remain in in their bed and listen to the darkness. Strangely, he shared that his small chihuahua, Peanut, would hide under the living room couch or under the covers of their bed. It seemed that Peanut was terrified of the unknown exterior intruder. It's also a Chihuahua.

SPEAKER_03 33:38

And so Well, you know though, Chihuahuas can they tend to be very aggressive. Yeah, they can be very aggressive. And I gotta say, there must be a bazillion chihuahuas named Peanut out there, because that that's a common Chihuahua name. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

But yeah, I mean, what else are you gonna name?

SPEAKER_03 33:55

Uh a tiny Be careful, there might be Chihuahua lovers out there.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

I I love, I'm a dog person. I do love dogs. I tend to like big dogs. And chihuahuas are not. Go right ahead. Anyway, peanut. Peanut. No, well, so he described how it was as if all the normal nighttime sounds of crickets and tree frogs would cease when the drumming sound started. You're right. That this is sounding more and more Yeah. Uh dogman slash Bigfoot. Yeah. In essence, it was as if everything around attempted to hunker down and be quiet when the nighttime visitor arrived and hide until it left the property. Which I think is also uh just a normal predator thing in general. If animals tend to die down, usually that means there's a predator around.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

So it could have been Wily Coyote.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

A very stinky Wily Coyote uh with acme uh dynamite. All the normal sounds of the night would cease as an early warning signal that the nightly visitor was approaching from the bottom land to the west. I will catalog some of the behaviors that were reported to me. Peeping Tom. He began to he began to notice that someone or something was attempting to see into the interior of their home. His sight was failing him, but he would catch glimpses of a head or half of a face. He described it as an ape man looking into the windows of his home.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

Ding ding ding, codlet.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

Fleeting glimpses of an odd football-shaped head. It was Hey Arnold.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

Um that would scare me.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

I mean, yeah, honestly, if Hey Arnold was a real person with that tiny neck and that huge head, I would be I would be scared for multiple reasons. He is defying the laws of gravity. Um fleeting glimpses of an odd football-shaped head that seemed to be very much in tune with their internal household movements during the night. This became worse as the days wore on, and the couple were more aware of the nature of this intruder. Later they would often cut out all the lights within the home and could sit in a central hallway which allowed them to see several windows at once, and they could watch the intruder move from window to window in an attempt to localize where they physically were located within the home. I hate that. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

So it could they sniff him? I mean, could he smell where they were? Because they're on the other side of a wall.

SPEAKER_01 36:27

Yeah, so he's trying to look in the window and figure out where they are. Yeah, they see because he can't see very clearly. Right. They can see, they can both see the shadow of something coming up to various windows, peeping. I mean, this this one's still part of that peeping Tom. So it's seeing something trying to locate where they are, and as they're they can watch the progress as he goes around the house. You know what it is.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

It's missionaries.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Sir, or or or we have a message to share. Or are they not Sir? We've been trying to contact you about your car's extended warranty. Please, please stop, stop trying to deny our calls. Okay, so I'm sorry, being serious again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, yeah, have you heard about our Lord and Savior, uh, Ape Man? Um, that didn't come out very well at all.

SPEAKER_03 37:17

Well, no, because it's Ape Man is saying that. Yeah, exactly. That was much better than what it sounded like.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

This is a missionary for cryptids.

SPEAKER_03 37:24

Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Okay, because you said, have you heard about our Lord and Savior Ape Man? Yeah, like that.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Because they they think he's a Lord and Savior. The the Ape Man, the people who worship were cryptids. I'm not saying it's it's any other missionaries other than the missionaries for Ape Man. Ape Man. Yeah, the the Church of Ape Man. Bigfoot. Um Bigfoot. I mean, they could be different people. Who knows? Anyway, so the next the next cataloged event. Whispers in the dark. In time, the old man began to report that the nighttime intruder was whispering to them through the walls of his home. See, this is now less this this is Hello! This is starting to go well, so okay. He described it as a guttural, deep sort of rumbling sound.

unknown 38:12

Hello.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

That the closer to the he stated that this would often turn into a huffing sound and on occasion a scream. I will admit that I began to question his competence at this point. I asked the old man if the intruder ever said anything he could understand. He shared that once the intruder had emulated his way of calling the small house dog, he said it growled. He he said it had growled out very low. P not it's the dog's fault. So, so two thoughts. One, that is really funny. I mean, if I were in the dark and I heard something go, peanut, I would actually be terrified. But in in the attic, in the light, in the broad light of day, that is kind of funny. But two, I think it's interesting. I don't know, I don't know how much property they have, but if they happen to have like a yard where they would let their dog out, right, that makes sense because they'd probably call out the peanut, calling him back. And so if he's trying to emulate their speech, okay, that's what they hear. That's what it's hearing. And so it makes sense. That would be the thing they would be able to emulate the most. And probably in that same way, too. Peanut, like you know, calling for their butt but he's you know trying to say something, a call that he knows they make regularly, not understanding.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

He just wants to play with their puppy.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

I'm sure that's exactly what it is. Just, you know, hey, can I play with peanut? Please. It's just misunderstood. Um okay. The next the next one tractor tire. So a tractor tire, a large near pushing type tire, was found launched in a tree approximately 25 or 30 feet in some high branches. Jeez! That's a big tire, and that's high up in the high up in a tree. It was no mean feat throwing that tire to such a height, as those tires can weigh several hundred pounds. Right. I could never discern where anyone had used a block and tackle to lift the tire. So one was left to wonder.

SPEAKER_03 40:29

And you know Peanut didn't pull it over there.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Peanut Peanut can barely pull the dog bone. Yeah, yeah, uh a Hot Wheels tire. Corn dog slash food. Sorry, corn slash dog food. Oh, that's better. That's a lot. Corn dogs would be delicious. Yeah, I don't know. This is this is not corn dog. This is corn slash dog food. Okay. The nightly intruder burgled the old man's little barn. Okay, so they had a barn, which means they had property. So they probably did, so that's probably what I what I called was probably true. They were probably let their dog out and they would call him back in if they have a farm.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

How far do chihuahuas go from I mean, do they just kind of go outside the house, pee, and run back in? Uh you know, that's a I don't picture the lassie kind of running through the fields with a chihuahua.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

No, but also if they're elderly, they probably don't want to go outside to go get a so anyway, something had twisted off a last lock slash bolt and hasp without the help of tools and had stolen, perhaps eaten some there as well, several bags of dog food and some cracked corn. That is amazing. If it broke off a master lock and bolt and hasp So why didn't it break into the house then if it could do that? Okay. That's a good question. One uh one morning I walked behind his home toward the creek. So those were some of the things. Now we're going back to the story. Okay. One one morning I walked behind his home toward the creek. I'd asked him the pr for permission to walk further back onto his land to see if I could find any tire tracks or sign of people along the creek. Okay, so more and more this sound like he's got a lot of property, yeah. Once I reached the creek, I walked along the bank for a bit and saw a place, a a copse of trees overhanging the creek where something had crossed the creek. I saw silt drifting in the creek's water and could plainly see several large footprints that were underwater, and one imprint on a small mud bank, kind of shaped like a boomerang. It was shaped oh it it was shaped like a large footprint. It was huge, and I immediately stopped and looked around to see if the provider of that track was still in the vicinity. This was not long after daybreak, between 7 to 8 a.m., and I had a feeling of being watched. I exited the area. I climbed down to the creek and saw that the imprint was huge, was a huge human-like footprint. However, the entire time I had a fight or flight response. Plainly I became terrified and decided to retreat for my own safety. In the air was a strong ozone-like, slightly sulfurous smell, stronger than the normal landfill pig pan rotting smell that normally accompanied the activity. Further, there seemed to be a static electrical type charge in the air. Basically, was enough to make the hair on uh to make my hair rise on my arms and neck. Later, this feeling and the other senses subsided and eventually seemed to dissipate. Being off duty, as I had asked the victim if it were okay to return during the daytime to survey the yard, I walked back to my privately owned car and retrieved a bucket of plaster of Paris. I determined to make a cast of the imprint. I clamped. Back into the creek and walked over to the mud bank. It was composed of a muddy, pebbly mix of clay. I used the creek water to make the casting mix and poured the cast. It took its time drying, and I looked at the tracks leading to the muddy bank. The track path was hard to determine with any measured accuracy. However, by estimating the length between opposite the between opposite steps, I roughly figured that the stride length varied between sixty-four inches and seventy inches.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Jeez.

SPEAKER_03 44:29

Between five and six feet.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Yep, so a forward swing of a leg would cover roughly five point three feet to five point eight feet.

unknown 44:37

Whoa.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

Um and it's metric, roughly 1.6256 meters to 1.778 meters.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

Can we make a note that we need to start carrying Plaster Paris in our cars?

SPEAKER_01 44:50

I also like I also like the fact that it's I mean, he he he tells us like the plaster, like I I I have never used Plaster Paris, but I like the fact that it's called Plaster of Paris.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

Yeah, it sounds like uh You know, when I think about the things that I should have in my car emergency kit, that never even occurred to me.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Well, I mean, you also hope that the emergency wouldn't be, oh, here's Bigfoot's uh footprint. Let me go ahead and and you know. Right. Uh but I do agree. I think it wouldn't be a bad thing to carry, just you know. Um it was an incredible stride. Suddenly my mind sprang back to the description the old man uh of the old man and his report of the intruder peeking into his windows, later measured at approximately 7.5 to 8 feet in height.

SPEAKER_03 45:34

Ooh, see that would have been a good bit of information.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the ground, from the ground to the structure. Yeah, no, absolutely. That's uh that changes things a little bit. I was thinking like a tiny little farmhouse.

SPEAKER_03 45:48

I'm thinking he's on like the porch and he's just looking in through the front room window.

SPEAKER_01 45:52

No, this is this I don't like I don't like the size of this guy. My mind reeled at the possibility of such a creature actually existing. I still sought a practical human explanation for these events. I figured it was a hoax. So I took the cast and pumped the left with giant giant feet below. Who also carried uh carried a cologne that just happened to smell O to Big Bigfoot? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Bigfoot musk by uh Polo. By Polo. It's got a mixture of uh pig pen, dog, um garbage, ozone, and a little bit of sulfur.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

Yeah, a little pheromone thrown in there too.

SPEAKER_01 46:35

A little bit of uh fart. Um that's what that's what sulfur smells like. It smells like fart.

SPEAKER_03 46:40

You're right.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

Anyway, go right ahead. Um strangely, over the next few weeks, the activity declined and eventually stopped altogether. In my mind, this had never had any explanation other than some sort of prank. It was some person or group of people who wanted to drive the old man away from the property. Then, as if on cue, the entire process stopped, and it seemed that my hypothesis was correct. Whoever decided to cause the disturbance moved on, and it was over. Perhaps I was in some form of d denial, you think?

SPEAKER_03 47:16

Right in the middle of that denial river, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

He's living in Egypt right now. I placed the cast in a closet at my home and really forgot about it. It became a curiosity to me, and one of those mementos that one keeps for no reason than to have an object of discussion and or speculation. I let the entire thing go and it faded into the back of my mind. Later, after examination, it was confirmed by Dr. Jeff Meldrum of Idaho State University to be an actual example of a Bigfoot track. And Mr. Jimmy uh Chilcott, I think is how you pronounce that last name, Jimmy Mr. Jimmy Chilcutt, forensic fingerprint expert, examined the cast and stated that it had pre contained primate biological identifiers and skin markings. So it really had been some type of creature. Frankly, the incident changed my view of our world. It altered what I had previously thought as reality. Before this incident, my world didn't contain any non-human monsters. Afterward, I found myself pondering what entities or things are stalking our planet concealed within the darkness of night. Still today, I can't understand any questions about the origins of the of the maker of that footprint that left its mark on Elkins Creek. However, in certainty, I can say that something dangerously bizarre, unknown, and unexplained passed my way 24 years ago. That's been a little bit longer than 24 years. And then the last the last line calling back to the title. Apparently, it seems that sometimes monsters really do make bumps in the night. Ooh. It was a longer one.

unknown 49:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

But it was good. It was a good one.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

So um this next story I'm gonna read, I it it was one of those stories from Tales Around the Jack-o-Lantern. But and usually what I do is, you know, I'll go find these stories and I'll copy them in and and documents and use them. And I can't find the original story. So I'm gonna read you the fictionalized story, but this is a true story.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

Based on a true story. Well, and and more that yeah inspired by real events, maybe would be. Is it how how close to very, very, very close. Based on a true story.

SPEAKER_03 49:36

I mean, the names have been changed to protect the innocent, is probably closer to what we're doing here. So and because it's fictionalized, there's gonna be a little bit more flowery uh speak to it.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Is there gonna be some purple pros?

SPEAKER_03 49:50

Um potentially. I like that. Purple pros, potentially.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

Potentially, purple pros.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

The autumn night was clear and cold. The heat in the squad car had been turned up high, and patrolman Timothy O'Reilly and his partner Frank Thomas were cruising through one of the rougher areas in their district. They drove through a residential area with Halloween decorations in the windows or on the porches, but at this time of night most of the house windows were dark, and their occupants were sound asleep. They rounded a corner to a strip mall that had deteriorated over time. The parking lot was cracked and filled with tall dried weeds. An overflowing dumpster was parked in the center of the lot, with old mattresses and tires stacked around it. The only store that was still viable in the strip mall was a liquor and cigarette store with bars over the windows and doors and large liquor ads covering almost every inch of the glass. As they passed the mall, they noticed a car parked on the far side of the liquor store. We should check that out, Timothy suggested. As soon as they pulled into the lot, the car turned and drove out another exit. That's not good, Frank said, putting on the flashing lights and pursuing the car. Rather than pull over, the car increased in speed. This is squad 294 in pursuit of an older model, Chevy Sedan, dark color headed in the direction of Foster and Cicero, Timothy called in. They continued to pursue the car. Sure that he would pull onto the Eatons Expressway, but instead he continued down residential streets, recklessly increasing his speed. Suspect is continuing past Cicero towards Milwaukee Avenue, Timothy reported. Vehicle is traveling at speeds over 100 miles per hour. He's going to kill someone, Frank said, his jaw tight as he kept up with the fleeting car's pace. The car turned right onto Milwaukee Avenue, hit the curb, spun around, and crashed full speed into the concrete center pier of the viaduct. There's no way he survived, Timothy began to say. Um but stopped but stopped as they saw the driver's side window roll down and the driver climb out and run down the street under the viaduct. What the hell? Frank exclaimed. Drivers on foot, repeat, drivers on foot headed south under the viaduct on Milwaukee Avenue, Timothy called into the radio. We're pursuing. The car blocked the entrance to that side of the viaduct, so Timothy and Frank jumped out of their cruiser and pursued the man down the long, dark tunnel. The other side of this tunnel is the bridge over the Kennedy Expressway, Timothy called as they ran. There's no place for him to go. The position of streetlights only gave them glimpses of the man as he ran from one shadowed area to the next. They saw him run out of the tunnel, straight ahead onto the bridge, over the highway. They were gaining on him. He was only a few yards ahead of them. Then suddenly he wasn't there. Both police officers stopped in the middle of the road and looked around. Where did he go? Frank asked, frantically looking around. Timothy walked over to the east edge of edge excuse me, Timothy walked over to the east edge of the bridge and looked down. He didn't jump, he said. Frank walked to the other side and looked down at the expressway underneath. He's not here either. Timothy turned and looked down the road. I don't understand. There's nowhere he could have gone, he said. I guess we need to call it in. They walked back down through the tunnel and approached the car, which had been completely crumpled by the thick concrete pier. I still don't know how he survived, Timothy began, and then he stopped. He walked closer to the car and saw that the window was no longer rolled down. The airbag had been deployed, and the body of the lifeless driver was wedged tightly in the wreck. He's in here, Timothy said. Frank looked at the driver, then turned to Timothy. We both saw him, right? We both saw him running away from the car. Timothy nodded. Aye, we did.

SPEAKER_01 54:02

Dang. I mean, his ghost was like, I can't go back to jail. I I just think I yeah. That's so there's a that that does remind me of a there's a video that I've seen, and I I won't be able to find it. Um I I don't know how popular it was. So there's might be some of you who recognize the story, and I I don't remember the specifics, but I I remember it was dash cam uh footage, but it was like police dash cam. They were chasing a guy and they go off road. Um and I believe that the footage either the guy vanishes when they get to a fence, or what I I actually think what ends up happening is the guy, the this this car they're chasing somehow drives through a fence. But like it's it's uh um it's it's like a barbed wire fence, and he pass like the car passes through it. So it doesn't take down the fence, it doesn't take down the fence because the the police car has to stop because the fence is you know right there and the car just keeps going. Somehow it just phased through the fence.

SPEAKER_03 55:19

So it's like this phantom car.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

Yeah. And so I don't remember if it was that or if it vanished at the fence. I do remember there was a fence they had to stop at. I'm pretty sure it it phased through this fence. I'm gonna have to see if I can find that.

SPEAKER_03 55:31

If you find it, link it to the yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:33

I will, but uh, but yeah, uh I just I remember seeing that and going, how what? Like that it's just and this was before this was like a few years ago.

SPEAKER_03 55:44

Okay, so it's not an AI.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

It was before AI was a big thing. Um it could have been special effects, technically, because it was it was I mean, camera dash cam footage is never particularly uh high definition. Right. It was it was pretty clear or pretty fuzzy. Right. Um, but I mean, who knows? I don't I I'll have to look for I'm pretty sure it was it was I'm pretty sure it was dash cam footage that was like Russian, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 56:09

Oh. Um so the car was moving quickly. It was Russian. Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_01 56:16

Yep, exactly, exactly. Yeah, um they uh the the police officers were um putting their car into gear.

SPEAKER_03 56:23

Oh, that was very good.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 56:26

Okay, I've got another quick one while you look for one. Yeah. My boyfriend is a police officer, and he once told me uh a story about responding to a house where a lady said she heard something in her kitchen. He and his partner cleared the house and were talking to the lady in the living room, telling her that everything to everything seemed to be in order when they heard a noise in the kitchen. When they all went into the kitchen, all the cabinets were open, and all of the chairs at the table were leaning against the table. He said the lady who lived in the house freaked out and left with them.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

Understandable.

SPEAKER_03 57:02

Understandable.

SPEAKER_01 57:03

Yes, like that scene from Poltergeist when he when he comes in and she's like, she comes in, she's like, What's this is the original poltergeist? She's like, you know, what it basically, like all of these events that are happening, he's able to like perfectly replicate and they're all happening like at the same time, and they're just she's like walking through like amazed. I I I probably described that really poorly, but that's kind of what that reminded me of a little bit, where it's you know, there's like uh he like I think he places the ball on uh I don't remember exactly what happens, like place the ball on the the floor and like it rolls by itself and then kind of like rolls back. I do you remember what scene I'm trying to to well you have the scene at when um Craig T.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

Nelson comes home and his wife's got all the marks laid out on the kitchen floor. That's that's it. That's what it is. She, you know, the daughter gets sucked across the floor.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

That's right. Yeah, that's it wasn't a ball, it was the daughter. He placed the the daughter on the floor and then she just slides to the other side of the room. That's terrifying. Well, and it was just it was one of those things where like the house for some reason had all these uh repeatable paranormal phenomena that happened.

SPEAKER_05 58:14

Phenomena.

SPEAKER_01 58:15

Uh if do do do do do if only paranormal stuff was repeatable, then people would actually, you know, then scientists would be able to study it and all that fun stuff. But alas, that's not what happens. It's not.

SPEAKER_03 58:29

Go ahead, tell a story.

SPEAKER_01 58:31

Uh so I'm gonna share some shorter stories. Um I've got a few fun ones from Reddit, but I'm gonna I'll I'll save those. Actually, you know what? No, I'm gonna there's one from Reddit that is actually not it's a first responder, but it's not police.

SPEAKER_03 58:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 58:47

It's uh firefight. Firefighters.

SPEAKER_03 58:49

I hate I love firefighters, so go for it.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

So I'm gonna do this one. It's uh this is from Reddit. Um there's I think it was on R slash police, if I remember correctly, uh, where somebody said, What's your what's your police ghost story? Uh this is from Rusted Death Taxes, which is a fantastic name.

SPEAKER_03 59:10

That is a great name.

SPEAKER_01 59:12

Um I'm a second generation firefighter. My father spent the latter days of his career as a fire safety director at a massive mental asylum. Our state version of OSHA has to come and do inspections at all facilities. His was no exception. So the OSHA inspectors made their way to an abandoned part of the facility that used that used to house the criminally insane. The absolute worst of the worst. Serial killers, cannibals, uh, another word that will get us demonetized, etc.

SPEAKER_03 59:49

Not that we're monetized at this point, but I mean just in case in the future.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

In hopes that we ever get monetized. I don't want to call that into question now.

SPEAKER_03 59:58

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 59:59

My father left them um with keys and a flashlight because the electricity didn't work. That already I'm not a fan of. Uh the inspectors were redoing. Oh, were you gonna say something?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

You know, I have this story on my list, but go for it. But I'm just thinking, you know, here's the keys to the criminally insane area, and here's a flashlight, because you know, we don't have electricity there. But have fun. Have fun, good luck.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

The the flash, I mean, I don't know what I I haven't I haven't read fully. I saw this one, I saw the end. I haven't read the whole thing, but I guess the flashlight works. Okay, I just I'm imagining just like as they're going, no, this is this is creepy creepy. So it's creepy creepy. Yeah, creepy creepy. Okay. The inspectors were radioing back to my father that they kept hearing talking and footsteps, which was impossible. Not even squatters could move around because each section is isolated with locked doors to prevent escape. Eventually, the inspectors give up and actually flee without finishing. That's a nope situation. Yeah, nope. Yeah. So I guess Didosha, Didosha passed them, like, you know, and this this haunted section of the continue. He'll tell you. Oh boy, okay. Oh boy. My dad decides to stick around. That's he's a brave guy. Yeah, good, good for him.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:16

He's he's got the he's like the reader that so one of our readers, hi there, thanks for commenting, told us his own dogman story. And we're gonna we're gonna use that if he gives us a lot of time. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm sorry. You're used to uh I'm used to yes, listeners. He commented, commenters, and he told us his dogman story, and he approached this dogman. So I've asked his permission to use it the next time we talk about dogman. But brave men, very brave men. So go ahead and talk about this nice brave man.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:46

My dad decides to stick around and check the alarm boxes. They didn't. As he's checking one of the alarms, he feels as if someone is watching him from down the hall. Something in down the hallway was trying to clear its throat. It had something. I turned it was a cat. Sorry. No, this is this is spooky. Anyway, as he looks, a shadow forms with a head, shoulders, torso, but no legs, and just two holes where there should be eyes. My dad noped on out of there. Sorry, my dad noped the hell on out of there. Which yeah, yeah, that is that is horrifying. And then there's since the hospital was has shut down, it has been on ghost adventures, ghost hunters, and a myriad of other shows and movies. My dad has been in some of some of them. Jason from Ghost Hunters called it the scariest place he's ever investigated.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:50

Which means it's terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:52

Yeah. I mean, if somebody who goes who is part of a team called Ghost Hunters uh says, Yeah, this place is extra spooky. It's the scariest place I've ever done stuff, then you know, you know you've got something.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:06

I I mean, can you imagine this armless, legless torso with bull with no eyes? Ugh.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:12

I don't want to. No, I don't want to imagine that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:15

Um, so I've got one to change the the atmosphere. Okay. It happened in the canyon near Spanish Fork, Utah. A fisherman noticed a partially submerged car in the river underneath a bridge. He said that if he hadn't been fishing in the river, he was sure he wouldn't have seen it because it was invisible from the road. He called the local police and they hurried out. We could see a person in the front seat, and then we heard a voice saying, Help me, we're in here. It was as clear as day, said Officer Tyler Beddows of the Spanish Fork Police Department, one of the four men who pulled an unconscious 18-month-old girl from a car which had been submerged in near freezing water for 14 hours. This, I'm sorry, is from um the Provo News. Um, and I don't think I have the the it's it's from the newspaper.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:06

The Deseret or is that another newspaper?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:08

You know what? You write me it might be right. The Deseret News. So, and okay, so I'll continue. Um we replied, we replied back, hang in there. We're trying what we can. The voice motivated them to push harder because they believe there may be somebody inside who is still alive. With their adrenaline pumping, they pulled the heavy water-filled car onto its side and discovered the driver was dead. The little girl was hanging upside down in her car seat, but her head was not touching the water. The responders did not even see her initially, but when they got the car turned over, they spotted her and raced to get her out. The officers had no explanation for the mysterious voice that appeared to come from the inside of the car. Beto said that he wouldn't believe it really happened had not the other officers heard it as well. I know what I I thought I heard, he said. I'm not typically a religious guy. It's hard to explain. It was definitely something. Where and why it came from, I'm not sure. Um, so I want to make sure that that's that's that's all they say there. So basically, I I love this story. I think I use it for Mother's Day. You know, it's like these mom guardian angels who they that mom stayed by that car because she wanted them to rescue her daughter.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:32

Yeah, I I don't have we done I feel like that story sounds familiar. I don't know if we've done on the podcast before.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:38

We you know, I was wondering if we had talked about angels or something like that, we might have done this.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

It sounds it sounds familiar. Yeah. But I mean, hey, it's a great story that I think it fits for for this. And I I mean, good on good on her and good on them for you know investigating and and it's hard. It's hard to keep an open mind when you are uh a police officer when it cause there are certain things that you need to just for your own sanity and protection, you kind of need to guard yourself, including including, you know, mentally. And uh, and so good on them for being able to have that open mind.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:17

Well, and and I and I guess when this story came out, I remember seeing it on on um the internet, a news story, and he was interviewed over and over again. And you know, it was interesting that he said he wasn't a religious person because I'd love to know, you know, five, ten years later if that has changed his view on religious. Yeah, it's like whoa, there is life after death, or you know, whatever that that means.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:41

So yeah, that's true. Um it's gonna change. I mean, so I I could. Go ahead. Okay, so I'm gonna change. I'm it was a very nice, happy, we had a good spirit, so I gotta change that. That's right, exactly. Uh, this is a story from police1.com, okay, uh, which was the other website that I mentioned. And this um this was a forum like I mentioned before. They asked their audience, which primarily consists of local or former uh local, sorry, current or former police officers or law enforcement officials to share their own personal paranormal couchers. This one is called A Different Kind of Evil. Ooh. I know. Several years ago, I took a 911 call for a family reporting their teenage daughter was possessed. What a banger way to start out the story. Just yeah, I took a call because that somebody's daughter was possessed.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:39

So they said, so what else is new? Yeah. Dealt with teenagers before.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

Ah, you and me both look to the camera. Audience laughs. This was recorded in a live studio audience. Anyway, they claimed no possibility of drugs or history of mental health issues, which I, of course, didn't believe for a second. Right. My family members are holding her down, and I could hear two people screaming at each other in the background. I asked the caller to tell whoever was yelling at her to stop. The caller said, It's her. I responded that I knew it was her, but whoever was yelling at her at the same time to stop. The caller again said, It's her. Both voices.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:25

Ooh. Ooh.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:27

I kid you not, it was the creepiest thing I have ever heard. I've been doing this for 25 years and I've heard many things. I know of man's inhumanity and the horrible things people do to each other, but this was a different kind of evil. I was clearly hearing a young girl screaming at the same time an adult male was yelling back.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:50

Next year she went on America's uh talented. Yeah, America's got talent.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:56

And sang a duet. Yeah, great. You know, it's it was a it was a creepy scream, but he's got a really good bass.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:04

And she was a high soprano.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:06

Yeah. Uh no, anyway, I couldn't understand either language, but they were clearly two different voices. The family swore both voices were coming from her at the same time. It made my skin crawl. The lieutenant listened to the tape letter, uh, the the tape later, and he looked at me and said, Do you ever wonder ellipses? Yes. Yes, I do. And it's then it it's uh uh from Meredith uh Shireman is is who So we don't know what happened or what policeman went there? Yeah, we don't yeah, that it's because she was only this is only the person who's taking the call. She, I mean, I she doesn't talk about who dispatched and and what happened afterwards. Yeah, I mean that would honestly whoever goes into that, like you know, hey, bring law enforcement, also bring your local whatever Father Guido Sarducci. Yes, yeah, take them out. Yeah, hey, uh uh you know, Catholic exorcist. You wanna you wanna hop into the to the car? Let's get rolling.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:10

It's uh holy water. Former EMT firefighter story. One night we got a call to do a wellness check on someone who dialed 911 but didn't respond to the operator. We pull up to the address and the house looks perfectly quaint. And a little old lady greets us at the door, and we asked her if she knew who placed the call, but she told us she lived alone since her husband died. We barely got back to the station before a call comes in again, same address as before. So we drive back out, talk to the old lady again, then leave again. And just as we get back to the station, same call, same address, no response. We drive out there again, believing that the old lady must have been confused. But this time when we pull into the driveway, the old lady wasn't at the door to greet us. There was no reply at the door, but it was unlocked. We take a peek inside to find the old lady was on the floor and wasn't breathing. We rush in to help her and got her to the hospital in stable condition. When she woke up in the ambulance, she still claimed that she never called us and that we arrived almost immediately after she had fallen. It was a 15-minute drive to her house from the station. Before she was admitted to the hospital, she asked me and another EMT if we could bring her knitting needles and bag of clothes to her in the hospital. Ah, it sounds like somebody in your family who would say something like that. I offered to pick her stuff up because I had a friend who lived in the area and we were gonna hang out anyway. I pick up my friend and drive to the lady's house. I ran inside to grab the bag and knitting stuff while my buddy sat in the car. Ah. But just as I was leaving, I swear I felt a hand on my back and heard a voice say thank you. Is it like the Bigfoot boys? Thank you. Probably not. Do you have any peanuts? That's that's what the issue was. When I get back in the car, my friend asked me, Why couldn't the husband's late the lady's husband bring her stuff to the hospital? Oh. I explained that her husband was dead. But when I say that, my friend said, But I saw an old guy in the window. No, he smiled and waved at me. No. At first, I refused to believe in anything supernatural. So I called the police and asked them to do a sweep of the house. I thought it was a squatter. Nothing was out of the ordinary, and no one was inside. I later brought my friend to visit the lady. He sh started describing the old dude who was in the window. But the old lady almost immediately started tearing up and said, That's my herald.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:05

I love that. I love that. But also, that is like heartwarmingly creepy. I'm like, right, but also, you know, I mean it's it'sn't that nice to know her husband's, he probably called 911 all three times.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:25

Yeah, you're right. And he's watching out for her.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:28

But also, I I don't know. I so I I think that I think that it's it's awesome. It's also maybe to me anyway, it would be a little much if I was going to get her stuff, and then he from the afterlife thanked me for doing it. I'm like, you know, I appreciate it. I don't need you to thank me. Good manners. Just good manners. It's kind, it's polite, but also it's a little spine-dingling.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

But you I think, okay, so it's not that we ever do this, but a little bit off topic. What? Yeah, I know. Um I remember uh when the director of the Stevenson County Historical Society, um because we that the Taylor House is is haunted. Oh, absolutely. I think we all agreed to that. Um and so the alarm system, because it's it's a museum and it has valuable things in it, so there's an alarm system. So when you would leave for the night, you'd have to turn off all the lights and then you would tap in the alarm code that was right by the door, and then you had to quickly, within a certain amount of time, open the door, close the door and you know, and lock it, because then the alarm system was on. And so she would be fun little game. Yeah, it was. And so she would turn, and the back door had um glass windows, you know, it was like a kitchen door because that's actually where she came out. So you would be looking back into this darkened museum, house museum. Love that, and she would say old Victorian house in the darkness in the middle of that you know is haunted, and yeah, it's nighttime now because it's dark at like five o'clock. So you're leaving at five. So she would quickly do it. She'd close the door, lock it, and say, Good night, I'll see you tomorrow. And then she would stop and say, I mean, I I don't want to see you tomorrow, but I will be here tomorrow. I'll I you will see me tomorrow. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:23

I would prefer not to see you tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:25

And I remember um one night I'm working late, and I have it's here in the house. I've got my office door open, and and I might have told the story again, but I'm old and I forget stuff, so you're gonna hear it again. So I'm I'm sitting here typing, and and I feel like somebody's watching me from the doorway. And somebody's watching me. Okay, so it's really annoying because you cannot think clearly and type and write with if somebody's staring at you. A lot of pressure. It is, and and it's like so. Finally, I look up, obviously, there's nobody there. I turn to this open doorway and I say, I really have to write tonight. I've got to get this done. And if you're standing there watching me, it's not gonna work. And I this feeling goes away. The watching feeling, and I I picture my mind this this ghost, ooh, ooh, sorry, sorry, sorry, and backing. Yeah, my bad. I'll go play with peanut. No, it wasn't a bigfoot, it probably it wasn't a bigfoot. But you you just need to let the ghost know. Please don't say thank you. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:31

Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Well, exactly. Send flowers, yeah, and say thank you. Yeah, and especially don't touch me on the back. Like, even if I heard like I'm okay with hearing like the impression of thank you. Right. I don't want, I don't want to feel like somebody touching my back when I know that I'm alone in the house. That's I think the part that I like the least. Where you know, touching, and I get he's like wanting to alert the person to to you know to be aware of the like when somebody touches somebody's back in general. You know, you're touching it to to get somebody's attention.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:02

Maybe he was walking and he's gonna step on poor Harold. Maybe it was stepping back. We're in Harold's space.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:07

You know, that's fair. I also feel like I hope no they know that if we pass them, like we can't interact with them anywhere. So I don't know how weird it feels for us to pass through them. Uh for to them. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:19

I wonder if it feels warm because it feels cold when they pass through us.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:22

Are they leaking leaching the energy out of us when we pass through us?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:25

I'll say maybe that's why they stopped him. I don't want to leech.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:28

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:30

But it it tapped him on the back though. Yeah. So that's I don't know. Anyway. Anyway, so then now it's your turn. Yeah. Are you gonna tell this? Was kind of other than slightly creepy, it was kind of warm and heartwarming and lovely. What are you gonna do to us? This one, this one is I it's a little creepy.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:46

Okay, but it's I think it's a little funny. Okay, as well. This was Yeah, but you think insidious is funny. Well, on a second viewing, oh okay, all right. The first viewing is really scary. But no, this is this one's called Rural Encounter. Okay. I work on country roads and I had a signal 100 at at 0300, and my closest bathroom was 30 minutes out.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:09

Oh, so now I know what a signal 100 means. That was exactly when I was reading this, I was like, what's a signal 100?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:15

Oh, that's what a signal 100 is.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:17

We're gonna have to use that. Uh signal 100.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:19

I got a signal 100.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:21

Stop recording. Signal 100, everybody.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:24

Well, and that's that's anyway. So that that's that's that's where this starts. And so that's why I think this is a fun okay. I mean, it's also again, it's a little creepy, but it's fun. So I pulled down a dark gravel road and started my business. As one does. That's the beautiful thing about being a guy. The world is your urinal. Um, depending on where you are, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:47

You can get a ticket for having that attitude.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:50

On a dark gravel road when there's no one around. But I felt like somebody was watching me. Ooh. Looking toward the rear bumper of my unit, his car. Uh thank you. Yep. And approximately 20 feet beyond my rear bumper, I saw a shadowy figure standing there. Sorry. Because this part, this part is creepy, but we're giggling right now because you walked right into that. I mean, yeah, yeah. I just want to clarify what he was talking about when he says unit. He's obviously talking about his car. I I feel like that'd be a self-aggrandizing uh nickname.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:46

I'm glad you cleared me.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:49

Because I was thinking, what a bumper.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:51

Yeah, yeah. What yeah. What do you mean, unit and bumper? What are you talking about? We are the model of professionalism. Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:59

We try so hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:01

Yeah. Okay. It is getting spooky though, everyone. So put on your put on your serious faces. Yeah, put on your serious hands. Okay. Looking so uh so about sorry, approximately 20 feet beyond my rear bumper, I saw a shadowy figure standing there. I stop and zip up, parentheses, not finished, which that hurts. That sucks. Poor guy. Anyway.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:27

Too much information in this one.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:29

And I yell out to what I thought was a person.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:32

Mind your own beeswax.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:34

Yeah, well, probably just like a hey, like who's there? You know, that kind of thing. I got no reply from the figure. I start to apologize to the figure, thinking this was a landowner coming to see who was peeing on their driveway. Because he was in a driveway. I I'm I'm hoping, because he says it's a it's a it's a gravel road. So in rural areas, a a driveway could be like it could be a long driveway where it looks like a road. Um, but I'm hoping that he's he's not like in their front yard. Yeah, I'm I'm really hoping that he's he's exaggerating. You know, who's peeing in my driveway when he's clearly not in on anyone's driveway. Or I mean, there's also like we know on our rural roads, there's like there are tiny little driveways that go into various fields. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:15

Not really they're driveways, kind of, but they're not they're more entryways to the tractor. Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:21

Exactly. But anyway, okay. No response. I then go into tack mode, I'm assuming that means like tactical or something like that mode, and demand them to show their hands and identify themselves. But no answer. I finally get smart and use my light to see who it was, and as light passes over the area, the figure was gone. Keep in mind the conversation was about 20 seconds long, and I just saw something there. I look around and hear no running through the brush. I turn to get back into my unit, and I take one more look back and see a shadowy figure move towards me from where I last saw it. Needless to say, I got in my unit and sped off because bullets were not gonna stop the spirit. Okay, so what was that called again? It's called rural encounter. No, this the signal.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:13

This is so then when he saw the spirit, did he have another signal 100 but in his pants?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:19

Uh do you call that a signal 101? Maybe. I uh, you know, because you know it's it, yeah. Wow. Yeah. I uh uh a code brown. I just browned my pants. No, but that honestly though, like living in a rural area, that would be that would be terrifying. Like I because people are like, oh, he might probably just saw something. Yeah, your vision can kind of you can hallucinate a little bit, but there's enough light right where like even on a moonless night, your eyes can adjust to the amount of light that that comes out there. And a rural road is especially easy to adjust to because it's not like you're having all of this light pollution, exactly, and so you're gonna be able to see stuff fairly clearly.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:07

And I'm guessing he didn't turn off his car, he just and so there's probably headlights in in the rear, rear bumper area, right? Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:17

Yeah, so yeah, that's so I that that's it's fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:21

It's also a little creepy, very creepy, and I learned a whole bunch of new terminology. So a couple of years back, this is a policeman talking, not me. Okay, I was patrolling around 0300, 0400. I love when they use it like that. It's also uh about the witching hour. Yeah, that's true. I drive by a small airport in my jurisdiction that is in the middle of the woods, which has several hangars and one main office building. I drive by it a few times a night because it's been burglarized in the past. On this particular night, I'm driving by and I hear an audible alarm sounding from inside. I was not dispatched and did not receive any other calls about it. I call it in and walk up to the building, which is completely dark and not occupied. Every point of entry is secure. So I am now waiting on the key holder to let me in to clear the inside. I figure a loose door, the wind, something tripped the alarm. I clear the entire oh, the key holder comes out with his wife in a couple minutes and they open the door for me. I clear the entire office, a garage, everything. Nothing is disturbed. The key holder is confused as the alarm is not a motion alarm nor an alarm system. The key holder explains to me that the alarm is coming from a cash register that was opened inside of the office. The cash register could only be opened by pressing a hidden button, which I'll say was extremely well hidden without going into too much detail.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:58

And I would assume that it'd be difficult to press on accident or something bump into it. Right, right. I mean they don't clarify that, but that's that much.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:05

But if it's hidden, yeah. The only people who knew where the button was located was he, his wife, and his deceased father. He told me the cash register closes and locks, and without pressing this button, it couldn't possibly open. It was not an oversight either, as I had driven by several hours before and heard nothing. The money was not disturbed. However, the cash register was all the way opened. The key holder smiled and told me that his father had created and owned this airport before he passed away, and that airplanes in this place in particular were his passion and his life's work. The key holder told me that he believes his father does things like that to bring his family to the airport just to say hello and make his presence known. I don't have any other explanation for it. Hey, Dad.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:07

Yeah. Dad, come on. I'm I'm running the business properly. You don't have to keep checking up on me.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:13

I know, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:14

Also, I will say when you said it was an audible alarm, the first thing that went to my mind is this is audible.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:21

See, we've been yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:23

But that is a fun one. I do like that. I I do let's see. Um Okay. This one, I think this one sucks. I mean, it's it's I it's a it's a great story. It's a great story.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:40

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:42

The story's great. Okay. The situation sucks.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:44

Okay, all right, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:45

And that's why I'm just like, oh man, that, yeah, I feel bad for the okay. So this one, the the title is Good Conversation.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:55

I think you're gonna know where it's going, but based off the title as well as the first sentence. I was working at our jail, and while doing our watch tour, I was heading to the into medical and heard two people having a conversation and thought it was two inmates in a cell talking. I went to the first cell and no names on the door, so I didn't look in. I went to the next door and had one name on it. I opened the hatch to look in and there was a guy in there. I didn't say anything to him. Uh I didn't say anything at first to him, and as I was closing his hatch, he asked me if I could move his neighbors over because he was alone and liked some company. I then went over to the previous door and checked in the window just in case someone didn't put their names on the door. I looked in and nobody was in the cell. I went back to the guy in the other cell and asked him if he had heard people talking, and he stated yes. They'd have been talking a lot. I informed him that there was nobody next door and got out of there. Scott Rolson. I mean, poor guy. I mean, like, yeah, that's scary to him, but also like that guy we can have this conversation. Yeah, he can't get out of there. Welcome to hell. Yeah, yeah. There was a guy. I was, I was, we were having a nice conversation. I just want him to be in here. Yeah, there is no guy there. Uh, you're in here by yourself alone.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:20

Yeah, so now I'm gonna leave you totally alone.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:22

Peace out. I don't want to be here.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:23

I think I'm scared turning off the lights. Yeah. Poor woman.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:27

Oh, yeah. No, it's that just that sucks. But also, that's a little creepy.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:31

That is. So uh it says this is a good supernatural paranormal story rather than a creepy one. It is kind of a little bit creepy, but it's okay. So this is the fellow who did it. Is uh it's in first person. So I'm a detective and spent some time as an expert on sex crimes and crimes against children. It was the best slash worst assignment I've had. I was gonna say that would be a hard one. Hard career. One case I had came in at midnight. A young woman with a toddler comes into one of the precincts to report her ex-boyfriend raped her during a custody argument. Long story short, it was legit, and it was one of the most violent and sadistic cases I have ever had, so I'll spare the gruesome details. I still have no idea how this woman made her own way to the precinct with a toddler. Part of the investigation requires me to talk to the toddler. The victim said the toddler was present for everything, which is heartbreaking. I'm a child forensic interviewer as well. During the interview, the toddler recalls that their recalls their father becoming angry and hitting the mom. Then the toddler said that the nice woman showed up and she couldn't see past the nice woman. The nice woman held her and told her that they were going both going to be safe and sang her a song in a different language. The toddler said the nice woman went over to the front door and knocked on the door. Then the nice woman helped them and their mom to the car before flying away. In the victim's interview, she said that her ex-boyfriend had a knife to her throat and put it to her skin to cut her throat open. But he got distracted for some reason, then ran out of the apartment. She had no explanation why. The suspect was caught about eight hours later. He confessed to absolutely everything. When I asked him about the knife to the throat, he said this. I swear to God I was gonna cut her throat open. But I thought I heard a knock at the door and thought it was the police. Once I saw it was clear, I ran outside. He is now serving life in prison. Good. And the mom and toddler are safe and doing well. I'd love to know more about the nice woman.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:15

Dang.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:17

I'm very glad that the nice woman was there.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:20

Yeah. It would be really, I mean, it it reminds me of the is it the Cokeville? The Cokeville miracle. Yes. Where the ancestors or the the grandparents or you know, relatives who had passed away came down and prevented these children from this explosion. Explosion, yeah. Yes. It's like it was this like a grandmother or something like that, especially since she sang her a song in a different language.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:45

Yeah. Yeah. I'm wondering what the language was. I'm wondering who who it might have been previously. Um this one's back from the um back from the first website, officer.com. Okay. Um and so this one is I uh I believe it's called drumming. I've I've lost the first and the first page only has the uh the title of it. Okay. Um actually let me let me try to see if I can. I think I think this is gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:20

Do you want me to read one while you like it?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:22

No, it's called On the Beat. Found it. So On the Beat. Uh and here's an editor's note. Uh this story is as told to us by Jamie either Dubai or Dub, a former patrol officer from Maine.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:37

I would say Dubai.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:38

Dubai, probably D-U-B-E. Probably Dubai.

unknown 1:32:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:41

While he no longer takes on cases, he was one of the founding members of the East Coast Ghost Trackers. Dubai is the author of Where You Walk, where he shares his narratives and insights from his lifelong connection and work with the paranormal. And they also have a link to his book on Amazon.com. So this is uh so it it sounds as I as I read this, uh, it sounded like an interview. Okay. And so it's not gonna be grammatically correct, um, but I love it because of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:10

So I got a call one night. It was early, probably around 2200. This woman got uh this woman called the PD and said that there was drumming going on in her house, Native American drumming. I said, Well, I didn't say anything. I was dispatched to go there. See, that right there, that's like I said, realizing that I didn't have any action before it, and I said, I didn't say anything. Just went. So I get out of the vehicle and walk up to the house. When I opened the door, I could hear drumming. I thought they were just messing with me.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:39

I won't do this again.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:41

Oh. Uh when I opened the door, I could hear drumming. I thought they were just messing with me. It was faint, but I could hear it, and it was coming from downstairs in the basement. She's like, Do you hear it? Yeah, I hear it. Is there kids in the uh is there kids downstairs or something? I don't think so, but I hear this drumming and it's not the first time. Will you go down and look? Sure, I don't mind. I opened the door nice and slow. You never know what people do. And when I opened it wider, it was getting louder and louder. This was drumming. I could hear some chanting too, like Native American chanting with the drums and singing. I see the light switch and say to the lady, okay, I'm gonna go downstairs to check this out. I make a call back to the PD and say, Hey, I'm here and I do hear drumming. I hear it. I'm gonna go investigate it. The minute I flick the lights on for the stairs, uh the minute the minute I flicked the light switch for the stairs up and put the lights on, silence. Just complete silence. I'm thinking there's gotta be kids down there. It was too loud. Or a radio or something, maybe a tape player. But I went downstairs and there was nothing. Just a regular basement with basement stuff in it. Furniture and whatever, nothing. I went back upstairs thinking if it was light action, you know, nothing happened. I turned it back on, nothing happened. Turned it off, nothing happened. I did that maybe five times, but it never came back. I told her, if this happens again, call me. I'm a PD, I'll I'll come right back over. She wasn't impressed that it was happening, but wanted someone else to hear it because she thought she was going crazy. To my knowledge, the lady never called the PD again.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:35

Interesting. I was thinking about that children's book, The Indian in the Cupboard. Mm, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:40

So, you know, maybe they're all hiding out in this little dollhouse, you know, like Well, I would imagine if they're if it's a dollhouse, it I don't know how I was kidding. The the pitch of the drum might be a little, you know, might be like as opposed to, you know, what the the drum actually would sound like.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:59

Yeah, I I like that story. That's that that's good. Worked as a police officer in a small town in rural Nebraska. Ooh. Back in the 90s, I was pulling through town in winter. We had several abandoned houses in town, but one seemed to have attract to have the attraction of copper thieves. So we were told to keep an um an eye on it. So because copper was is is is still um very expensive, people would go in and yeah, and people would go in and steal all of the plumbing from especially old houses, because old houses were either iron, uh what lead, either with lead or copper. I mean I mean lead was terrible.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:42

Yeah, I was gonna say, I hope I hope there aren't too many pipes that are lead pipes anymore.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:46

But yeah, but so anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:47

Definitely makes the uh the water sweeter.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:50

Yeah. Uh so I drove by at around 7 p.m. Since it sat on a corner lot, I had a clear view of all four sides of the house. As I drove around the corner, nothing looks out of the ordinary. About two hours later, I drive by again, and the back door is wide open. I know that the back door was not open when I drove by earlier. Looking at the snow on the ground around the house, there were no footprints. So I think, what the hell? I called dispatch, I tell them I'm investigating an open door at that address and ask for a county sheriff to start my way. I walked to the open door, pull out my flashlight, and shine it inside. The house has obviously been gutted for the most part. The plaster walls have been torn down, debris piles are everywhere. Since there were no footprints in the snow around the door other than mine, and with all the dust on the floor not showing any footprints, I chalk it up to the wind, or maybe the door just opened on its own. I was about to secure the door when I hear a loud thump come from upstairs. And what sounded like kids laughing. So obviously he didn't talk to the guy from the beginning of our podcast that just said nope. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:09

If you hear kids laughing, you don't, I mean, no, you probably should need to to make sure they're not, you know, physical kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:17

So I enter the house and yell out, police department, come downstairs. Um, more of what sounds like kids playing. I tell dispatch that it sounds like there are kids in the house, and I start making my way through the kitchen into the living room where the stairs are, all of the while cautiously checking the main floor. Two more times I hear something upstairs, but since I have had no response, I start thinking maybe it's an animal.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:45

Still, I it's an animal that sounds like kids laughing. We you know, there are animals, but I feel like all the animals that I that I hear when it comes to like their their calls that sound human, they sound like either men or women.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:59

I don't think they sound like screaming, not kids laughing. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:03

I think the closest that I have heard, besides like birds mimicking a laugh or something like that, uh cats sound a little bit, but they they sound like closer to infants cooing as opposed to they don't sound like laughing. Right, kids laughing.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:17

Right, right, right. So um and he says, still, I hear what I swear was kids laughing. There it is. I head upstairs and it all gets quiet. The upstairs is relatively small with a hallway at the top of the stairs that has one bedroom on the right, one straight ahead at the end of the hall, and one bedroom at the left. As I get to the top of the stairs, I hear a thump in the bedroom to the left. I carefully peek around the door, and it's an empty room with a small pile of plaster and wood debris in the middle. No kidding. Sitting on top of the pile of debris was a page torn out of a child's book with a picture of a police officer on it.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:11

Does a police like the somebody knows?

SPEAKER_03 1:40:14

Some no, it's just out of a child's book. Like a like a coloring book, like somebody had taken and it's just a page that's sitting on top of this pile of plaster and wood in the middle of this empty room after he hears children laughing. Somebody has put his a picture of a police officer all by itself.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:36

General Akbar is yelling right now. It's a trap.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:42

The hair stood up on the back of my neck. I got out of that room, quickly cleared the other rooms upstairs, and got the heck out of there. Told dispatch nobody was in the house, locked the back door, and never went back in there again. Dun dun dun.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:03

Jeez. I don't blame him for not. That's that's horrifying.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:07

Well, yeah. It's like, who's there?

SPEAKER_01 1:41:12

Yeah, he here's a picture of a police officer who's checking up on things.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:17

Well, and to me, it was like, we know who you are.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:21

Yeah. Oh yeah. And we we were we were watching you. Or or even like we were expecting you.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:27

See, now that's creepier.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:29

Yep. Yep. I always I mean, I love it, but also I hate it when someone's like, Yeah, we were we were expecting you. And it's like, no, but you shouldn't have been, though. There's no reason that you should have been expecting me.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:39

Um all of these little spirit children are looking out the window on the snowy dark Nebraska night, and they see the policeman and they're hee hee hee, let's freak him out, let's find that book. And then they rip the page and they just leave it for us.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:54

Are we thinking maybe one more of each? Yeah, you go ahead and I'll find one while you tell it yours. This one I I I've skimmed it. I don't fully I can't tell how creepy it's gonna be how creepy it's gonna be. But it starts off pretty creepy. Um, this is from uh Landy uh thirty four. Um this is from Reddit. This is that same post that uh the other the firefighter one came from. Um starts cop, real call. I've been on patrol for several years and I love stuff like this. Uh I had a backup officer with me who witnessed everything. Dispatch sent me to a call in a mountain area late one night. Dispatch said the caller reported several people holding a baby above their heads and chanting while standing on their property. The call sounded ridiculous, and I smirked as Dispatch gave the details. I arrived at the property address after driving about 20 minutes along a country uh excuse me, along a along a mountain road. There's not much else up there, and it was extremely quiet. No one walks around out here, and there aren't very many cars driving this late. I'm curious which mountain area is. I'm guessing western. Okay. Uh that'd be my guess, only just because I have more experience with western mountain roads than, you know, eastern. So I don't know. Um I walked along a gated driveway through a light wooded area. I found the collar's house with two dim lights near the front door. The house was surrounded by three sides of uh sorry, the house was surrounded on three sides by heavy woods. I felt a little uneasy just looking at the house. I knocked on the front door of the house while standing on a large patio. I heard something move to my left, which startled me because it was close. It sounded like a person, something big. I looked to the left and used my flashlight to light up the patio. I didn't see anyone. I continued to knock. I heard two voices from inside the house. I clearly heard a male and a female. This made me feel a little better. I thought I heard someone on the patio, but it must have been someone inside. The female eventually opened the door. She was terrified, almost crying. She asked me to come in, uh to come inside and to close the door. She led me to the living room where I saw a very cheap security monitor, almost like a baby monitor camera setup, with audio and video playing. The camera setup only provided live feed. The camera was positioned to view the front door and patio area where I was just standing. The audio was silent as I watched the monitor for a few seconds. The woman began to explain when I interrupted and asked where the male was inside the house. I had heard his voice. She looked confused and said she was here alone. I was surprised because I know for a fact I heard a male's voice when I knocked. I asked her several times and initially thought she was lying to me. The woman said she was reading while sitting on the couch when she heard two sorry, when she heard something over the security camera. She looked at this at the display and saw two people on the patio standing at the front door. She heard knocking at the door and called the police. I looked at the monitor, and although it was low quality, I could see the patio and front door area with decent clarity. Clarity, excuse me. As the woman continued to explain, the audio on the monitor went from quiet to extremely loud. We all stopped talking. The collar was shaking. I looked at the monitor but didn't see anyone. Loud audio continued to blast from the speakers. The audio sounded like wind, but it was not windy that night. I asked the woman, what is that? And she said uh and she said it's them. I looked at my partner who was nervous. Understandable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The woman gives me her cell phone stating she took pictures of the monitor showing the two people on her patio. I looked through several low-quality pictures and didn't see anything. I continued to scroll, and sure enough, I see what looks like two tall figures standing at the door. One of the figures is holding something. The figures looked strange, all dark and featureless, in contrast to the video I saw on the monitor. I was in disbelief and thought, Oh my gosh, she's telling the truth. I continued to scroll and saw one figure holding something up over its head. Another picture showed an the item at the base of the door, which both figures state uh with both figures standing near it. I tried to reason to explain that it could have to explain what could have caused these images. But it was pretty apparent that there had been two subjects on her patio. We checked outside, walking the property to tree line. I mentioned the movement on the patio and the male's voice from inside the house. My partner asks me to stop talking about it. Understandable. Uh also, maybe not the best thing, but you know. We finish checking and return to speak to with the caller. She says she will be driving into town and staying at a hotel because she is too scared to stay there tonight. We walk along the driveway back to our cars. My partner jumps into the patrol car and takes off. I laughed, but I felt really uneasy standing there in the dark. I leave shortly afterward. That's the end of that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:47

I'm thinking California mountains.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:50

Could honestly, that makes sense. It could be California. Um because I'm thinking about an experience you had in California that to me is I mean, it's similar but different. Right. I mean, yeah, because that that one I never saw anything. Right. It was definitely I I I heard something. Um, but I mean, the only area that this sounds like it could be, especially since it's wooded, I mean, uh, with the areas that I've I've I've lived in near, um I could see it being like a Topanga type of area, Topanga woods. Um gorgeous area, but also I could see at night, because it's it's kind of it's one of the few places in Southern California that's like very forest, very wooded still. And um it it I could see that being really chilling and isolated, yes. Uh especially considering where it's at. Well, and the whole idea of them holding a baby over or something, or something, and that's the thing, because because so what what the officer sees is uh because they don't say when this took place, but this the story is at the very least about five to eight years old already. Right. And this is from the the the person's past, and so this is low quality image taken of a low quality image. But yeah, I mean, you know, it's very little wonder why she could barely see anything, but even still, she mentioned that like even though you could see the patio clearly, if these it it sounds like it's one of those types of of security lights, uh security cameras, excuse me, that have to have their their, I think it would be ISO or whatever, just blown way out. Right, which means it's gonna be very grainy, very noisy, it's not gonna look you won't be able to see clear details. You really, for a security camera like that, you only want to see the the bare, like the most essential details. You don't need to see clear. And so if somebody's holding something, whether it's a child or something else, I doubt you'd be able to clearly tell, especially if they're holding it up and there were tall figures, it might be off camera. Right or or it's definitely not gonna be in the place of of focus. Uh so I'm curious to see what it was. And also, I just don't know. Like was it was it cultists? Was it something closer to like a black-eyed kids situation? Right. Um, there wasn't a knock. Elementals right? Yeah. I mean I mean, yeah. It's just sounds like shadowy figures. It's it's it's a it's a creepy, spooky something. That's right. Uh in in a wooded mountainous area. So I love the fact that they have no clue. I honestly those those are the are my least favorite, but also my favorite. Because at the end of the day, it could just be nothing. And and maybe Oh no, it was something. It was de it was probably something, but I mean, still, like there's there was enough evidence for there to probably be something, but we've got no clue.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:46

Well, and it's like you can't, I mean, it there was something, but what do you do about it?

SPEAKER_01 1:50:50

Exactly. I mean, that's it. Are you gonna go check the woods?

SPEAKER_03 1:50:53

The mouse on Ghostbusters? I mean, you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:56

Yeah, put it on the report it onto that um the dogman uh website.

unknown 1:51:02

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:02

That's I mean, I guess it's not really dogman. There needs to be like just a paranormal website for all paranormal encounters. Yeah, yeah, that's true. If you know where that that uh website is, comment in the comments and let us know. Because I I want to know where these where where people should be reporting these kinds of uh encounters that are happening.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:20

Yeah. Cool. All right, I'm gonna do one more. Yeah, this is the last, last one. Okay, and it's a short one, but it's uh one. So wait, it's uh it's what one? What was that?

SPEAKER_01 1:51:32

Oh, okay. I didn't hear you first, but now okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:36

So one night I'm driving, obviously, this is the policeman's first person story. So one night I'm driving along the highway, and the only light source is the one coming from my high beams. So I don't mistakenly run over any animals. Totally get that. And you know what? Living in the rural country area, I totally understand that. Yeah. About 150 meters in front of me, so obviously not a US story. About 150 meters in front of me. Yep. Not Canada either. Yeah. I see a man run across the highway and jump into the ranch. Um, so the ranch, I believe, is like the culvert or the uh the ditch. Gotcha. It's another term for that. Next, I pull over to the area where I last saw the man and I turn on my flashlight to scan the area. While looking, all that I was thinking was that it smelled horrible, like something had died. I brushed it off as uh as normal because there are all types of wildlife and things to die on that stretch of road. After about five minutes of scanning, I saw the man lying down with his hoodie covering his head behind some bushes. I identify myself as law enforcement and command him in both English and Spanish, okay, so now we have an idea where this is to stand up because I see him and he doesn't budge an inch.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:58

It could still be the United States. Right. And he just used meters. Yeah, because that I mean, if it's a hundred meters, like I think we can get a decent idea of anyway. Sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:07

I get a little closer to the man and grab his shoulder and turn him around. That's when I jump and gasp in disbelief because the man is deceased.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:18

I kind of had that suspicion when he smelled something dead.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:23

When the coroner arrived, they said the man had been dead for at least a day or two. So it was not possible that he had duh died when I had seen him cross the road.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:36

I didn't even think of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:38

This ultimately led me to believe that the man's spirit wanted us to find his body, and we did.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:46

So this answers the age-old question why did the ghost cross the road? Signaled the police officer on the other side.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:54

That's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:56

Yeah. And that other side pun can work in more ways than one. Oh, ooh. Yeah. Guys, uh sometimes my genius surprises even myself.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:09

We're we're always, we're always surprised by your genius.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:13

As yeah, as you should be. As you should be.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:16

Hey, thanks for listening to these stories with us today. This was this was fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:21

This was a yeah, this was a great one.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:23

And you know, please, if you've got stories, if you know people who are law enforcement, or you just have a scary, spooky story yourself. We would love to hear it. Also, let us know. This is going to be 12, episode 12, I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:37

Uh yes, yep. Yeah, episode 12.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:39

This is gonna be episode 12. So let us know um what kinds of things you like. You know, so far as we've done what, you know, I we did get the Bigfoot memo, so we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:51

Well, we'll be looking into that. Yeah. The hard thing with Bigfoot as just like a topic is that there are there are people who focus on Bigfoot specifically. So there's a lot of research out there when it comes to Bigfoot. So we're gonna try to find it's almost like ghosts, where it's like you can't just do an episode about ghosts, you have to like narrow the topic down. And so we'll be trying to find some Bigfoot related subjects to talk about because I agree. I want to talk about Bigfoot. It's just we kind of did, and we we yeah, dog many today. Uh, we also did, yeah, we did because that was Bigfoot. That's true. That's also true. Enforcement Bigfoot. Uh and and our dogman episode, which has has been for for our channel, has been incredibly well received, and we're we're incredibly happy that that there are people out there who are interested in in the topic and everything. But uh, you know, we did mention uh Bigfoot in that one a little bit too, because I definitely feel like when it comes to the cryptid community, they're cousins, yeah, yeah. They're they're related in some way, um, or at the very least, they have a lot of commonalities.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:51

And now we've insulted both Bigfoot potentially and dogman because we said they were related, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:57

So if you are uh dogman or Bigfoot watching this, then uh actually we would love for you to come onto the show uh and share your own side of things. Uh let us know, you know, why do you keep crossing the road?

SPEAKER_03 1:56:10

Or or or just let us know if you're related in some way to dogman or send us some DNA, we'll do some testing and whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:18

Yeah, send send us a hair sample.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:20

That's gross. Okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:23

Why is that why is that a hair sample? We so we can find, you know, what your deed your DNA is.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:28

It'll be canine. Okay. Yeah, I mean we're right. If uh unless it's Bigfoot, then people say But if you're not a Bigfoot or a dogman, we don't want your hair samples. Yeah, it that's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:39

Normal, yes, yes. If you are just a normal listener, please do not send us your hair samples. Um because I will file a restraining order and cry, probably. Crying first, yeah, crying first, restraining order second.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:54

But let us know what you like, let us know what we can do more of. Please um like, subscribe, and share.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:04

Yeah, follow us where you can. Yeah. Um, you know, with with more Memorial Day coming up and with this episode um being released probably the day after Memorial Day, I will be doing my best to um do a little bit of extra stuff so we can, you know, have have some extra more fun content out there as well. Um, you know, it it it is always the the the big challenge is just balancing, you know, with both of us, balancing our our our jobs with this, which we hope to be able to grow so we can be able to, you know, justify spending more time and attention into it. So, you know, um, so also if you would like us to to be able to do more with this, uh please share it with as many people as you can so that our community can grow and so that you know eventually we'll be able to uh have the resources needed to be able to do more research and be able to um uh yeah, focus on this more and and then you know continue to grow it. Because the more time that we have to be able to dedicate to it, we will absolutely be putting into this and you know, other eventually it'd be great to be able to, you know, grow this even further.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:09

But so how many subscribers do we need to um to like monetize this?

SPEAKER_01 1:58:15

A thousand subscribers.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:17

Okay, if we can get two thousand subscribers, we'll send Andrew out to that rural uh driveway to find out what that was behind that man's unit.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:32

I don't know if I want to be looking behind any man's unit. Gotta say. I uh that's but at the very least.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:48

I thought that that was better than sending you to California in the woods and finding out what those two things standing on the paddock. I mean, you could do more research then.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:56

I mean, yeah, I honestly if I if we could get to a point where I'm able to go and to to to places, I mean, one place I absolutely want to go to, partially because I have some friends close to the area. Um I would love to go to uh Skinwalker Ranch? No, no. Oh, good. Okay. That was I mean, I I already have uh uh another story from a buddy who who who went to there. Okay. Um, which if we ever do an episode, we probably eventually will. But also, there's been so much coverage on that one. I almost feel like, you know, what else can we add to that besides my friend's you know, personal story uh about that, and that's a fun one. Um I actually wrote a short story inspired by that one, but I'm gonna have to reach out to him to So now where would you like to go? I would like to go to Land Between the Lakes. Oh camp there. Um I've got uh my my friend who um you can't say that. Well, no, I I I said it was for he the my friend from Tennessee. Right. I was gonna say, I actually need to make a quick clarification. I I the story about, so I'm I'm gonna, yeah. So the story that I told about the mimic way back when in Tennessee, I I need to correct myself. He actually let me know that the the story that I told was mostly correct, but it wasn't totally correct. What he said, uh let me let me try to remember. Um what scared him was I believe it wasn't the fact that she wasn't there. Um it was I believe she was actually at home. Oh and she was in the house, and he actually responded to it because he couldn't understand, and then it responded back again in a weird gibberish way, and that's what scared him. There was a response. Oh and then he went inside, yes, and so I needed to clarify that was how the story went. Um and that's from our our one that we did mimics, the mimics. It was the cold open for the mimic one, yeah. Um, and yeah, the the this when I say that, you know, these are stories like when I talk about my friends' personal stories, these are real stories from my my real friends.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:14

And Andrew has friends.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:15

I do, a few at least. Um I yeah, so they're but also I'm I I love to I I'm weird when I with my friends I talk about, you know, we it's me. I'm gonna talk about ghost story stuff with them, and I want to hear their stories too. Um, so I just am very bad at at remembering certain details unless I write them down right away.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:35

So uh that is a good creepy detail.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:38

That's really cool. Yeah, that's that's what frightened him the most. That I would think so. And I forgot that specific part.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:44

It's like when I had that experience seeing a ghost when somebody confirmed what the ghost would be wearing and confirmed what the ghost would it was almost scarier than having that the actual experience because it it made it more real and something like that, yeah, a response. It's like, okay, so this isn't like a tree frog making funny sounds that sound like my wife.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:04

Right, or or it wasn't it, you're not hallucinating. I mean, it could still technically be hallucinating, but he's never had an experience like that since then. And so that doesn't read like a hallucination to me. Right.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:15

Um, but you know, I could then why would you have a hallucinate a hallucination in the middle of the day after you're parking your car?

SPEAKER_01 2:02:22

Well, it was it was at night.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:23

Okay, well, still.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:25

Still, you're right, you're right. But um, yeah, I just wanted to make that clarification. I I meant to make that clarification a long time ago, but I just have been forgetting. And so um now that was brought up.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:35

You have it.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:35

Yeah. Anyway, but yeah, I mean if we got to the point where I could go and and do, you know, field research.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:41

Yeah, that'd be cool.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:43

Wherever. Yeah, that'd be awesome. And I would be very I'd be more than happy. So please help us throw the channel.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:50

Tell a hundred of your friends, it would be good.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:52

Exactly. Yeah, yeah, you know, all all of your friends, tell all of your friends about you know what?

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Thank you for subscribing. Yes, thank you for for listening to us and um and commenting, and and it's just this is this is so fun. Yeah. So thank you very much for being here with us. And um you will have already celebrated Memorial Day by the time this drops, but happy Memorial Day.

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Yes, and uh yeah, thanks for uh spending some time in the attic with us. Bye.