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This episode starts with NBA playoff predictions but quickly turns into a heated debate about the Spurs, rising stars, and what really wins games in today’s league. From LeBron talk to Cooper Flagg hype to whether the Spurs should trade for shooters, this one gets real fast.

🎙️ In this episode:
 • NBA playoff predictions and matchups
 • Lakers vs Rockets breakdown
 • Thunder vs Warriors discussion
 • LeBron legacy and GOAT debate
 • Spurs roster analysis and future outlook
 • Harper vs Knipple debate
 • Importance of shooters vs playmakers
 • Is today’s NBA easier to score in?
 • Cooper Flagg hype vs reality

🧠 What you'll learn:
 • How real fans break down playoff matchups
 • Why team fit matters more than raw talent
 • The difference between stats vs “eye test”
 • What the Spurs actually need to win
 • Why modern NBA scoring is changing perspectives

⏱️ CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS
 00:00 Intro
 00:10 Playoff predictions begin
 01:00 Lakers vs Rockets debate
 01:40 LeBron GOAT conversation
 02:00 Spurs player discussion
 03:30 Fox role and expectations
 04:40 Harper vs Knipple debate begins
 06:00 Cooper Flagg discussion
 07:30 NBA scoring “curve” debate
 09:00 Eye test vs stats argument
 10:30 Spurs roster construction talk
 12:00 Shooter vs playmaker debate
 14:00 Should Spurs make trades?
 16:00 Final takes on Harper vs Knipple

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SPEAKER_02

Anyway, we need to get back to the regular playoffs. The playoffs that uh are going on right now. Okay, so who do I have coming out of uh let me see, my bad. You know, run through it real quick.

SPEAKER_03

I'll run through it. I've got Lakers, Rockets. Rockets shit the bed big time, man. They can't get thrown head out of their ass.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, and the Lakers are just like I'll take the Rockets. Yeah, it's it's the Rockets on the Lakers.

SPEAKER_03

Just because I hate just because again.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Okay, so um Y'all think that okay, so how many games?

SPEAKER_03

Well let's run through it.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm not done with that one. Because you skipped Thunder Sons and War any of those.

SPEAKER_03

I mean shit.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm I'm saying that the Thunder is gonna play or or they're gonna play the uh most likely the Warriors. Well that one's not set yet.

SPEAKER_03

How does that even work? That's the the play-in as well.

SPEAKER_02

That's the last spot of the play-in.

SPEAKER_03

That's the last spot. So you have to play two games to get into the actual playoffs?

SPEAKER_02

The last spot, correct.

SPEAKER_03

That's fucking crazy, but alright, go for it.

SPEAKER_02

So anyway, um So we can skip them. Lakers Rockets. Well, okay, so I mean, if you want, I think that they're gonna play the Warriors, and I got the Thunder over the Warriors, obviously. Gentleman Sweep.

SPEAKER_03

That's fine. Lakers Rockets, how many?

SPEAKER_02

No, this is the question. I don't uh Gentleman Sweep as well, but how much is LeBron going to average? Because that's the only way that he could save his little whatever if he averages 30. You think he's gonna average 30? X? I'm not even close. No, 26, 25. That's still pretty good. Well, well, at the same time, too, he's gonna be the only one for them. They're just crying and bitching. So you okay, okay, and the and then what they're saying too is if he wins that series. If he wins that series, that makes him the goat. Who was that? I was looking at something. That's what uh that's what Kendrick said. Kendrick Preference. If he wins that series, that unequivocally makes him the GOAT because he wins the first round versus the Rockets.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna go off topic real quick. Go for it. Uh with the Blazers, we're kind of wrong. 15 to 19 shot attempts.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh. That's what he was getting with him?

SPEAKER_00

15 to 21.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, it's close, but he still dropped buckets.

SPEAKER_02

And then tell me what he averaged with us and with them.

SPEAKER_00

Uh he was averaged like two points more with the Blazers. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

But Matt's only fucking sucked.

SPEAKER_02

I never said he fucking suck. He just didn't play like him.

SPEAKER_03

When you say shit the bet, it doesn't mean that he did well.

SPEAKER_00

It means he's like, I don't think he did well, bro. So he sucks. I think he did. I think he was more consistent with the Spurs as well as much important than Fox's with the Spurs as he was comparison to Sacramento.

SPEAKER_02

Say that again.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that he's not relying. In fairness to Fox, Fox, you didn't rely on him to score here because Fox took a step back knowing he was going to take a step back. When he came here, he said, I'm good. I'll just be the PG. I'm gonna distribute it to you guys.

SPEAKER_00

If I need to score, I'll score. I don't need him to score. I just want to be him consistent with his field goal percentage.

SPEAKER_03

But again, how do you expect somebody to be consistent with a field goal percentage when they're taking a step back and not taking many shots?

SPEAKER_00

Kids of the free throw line?

SPEAKER_02

Look, no, no, no, no. See, see, this is this see, this is where Drew like misses it sometimes big time. What we what we what we need Fox to do is we need him to be the veteran on the floor. We need him to handle the ball, we need him to distribute the ball, we need him to corral our youngsters. He's not doing that. So, what is he doing? I don't he's just going one-on-one sometimes. He's getting jammed up, is what he's doing. He's going all the way in the lane and he's getting jammed up, or he's just taking these ill-advised shots. That's not that's not what we need. So we need him to play better in that sense.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like he's playing without pressure, bro. That's what he's doing. He's what? He's playing without pressure because everybody's baited him out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So he's playing however he wants. You know what I'm saying? Like with it's nice to be free and not have to be the main focus of stuff with no urgency, you know what I'm saying? And he needs to take more control, in my opinion. I like Fox.

SPEAKER_03

And I mean, you're not wrong. I love him. I like Fox. I love him. He's great.

SPEAKER_02

And we're gonna need him big time if we're gonna win it. We can't have him playing the way that he's been playing if we're gonna win at all. We can't win it without him? No, no, no, no, at all. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03

Your young guy, your young guys are good, but they're not that's they're not there yet.

SPEAKER_02

That's what we need. That's what we need.

SPEAKER_03

Your young guys are coming up. I'm very impressed with with Carter. He's been hitting some pretty good shots. And the other guy are you impressed with?

SPEAKER_02

Telesco. Who Khan Kanipple? Huh?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that you said you would take over. Yeah, so yeah. Yeah, yeah. Breaking the NBA, breaking the NBA record and breaking the franchise record for threes, but Matt's like, you can keep them.

SPEAKER_00

If Harper got as many minutes as nipple, you think he'd be up for no, no, you don't think he'll be talking about guys.

SPEAKER_02

You tell me in the comments, could you show you? And you know what? I'm trying, I'm trying to get it uh a lot from non-Spurs fans because this guy says that we're just biased. Would you trade Harper for Khan Knipple right now? I said no, I'm sticking with Harper. This guy thinks it's blasphemy. Let us know.

SPEAKER_03

Let us know in the comments. I'm like, dog, I'm just saying again, if I'm taking a kid that has broken the NBA record for made threes, right? And his franchise record for the NBA record or rookie? Yes, it was the NBA rookie record. Yeah, for the rookie, for a rookie. No, man, it might be for the whole hold up. Let me see.

SPEAKER_02

It's for the rookies, but at the same time, too. See, he's taking it out of context, bro.

SPEAKER_03

He's not saying not saying you can have him. That's what he said. He said that about Harper. That's what he said about Cooper.

SPEAKER_00

No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_03

He's acting like I'm crazy. No, because the kid, I'm not saying Harper sucks by any stretch of the imagination. What I'm saying is that you got this dude doing things that are who else is doing what Cooper and what Connor doing right now that are just regular NBA players right now? Because we have that discussion, we're like, oh well, oh well. Matt just like if it's a Spur that does it, man. If the Spur, if it's a Spurs player that orders orders his own food from Bill Millers by himself, he's like, You did it at 19. Did you see that? That was amazing. Oh my he got extra sauce too. I give Coop the same Cooper Flag drops 50 like three times. He's like, it's all right.

SPEAKER_02

I never said that. You see, he wants me to be as happy for Coop as much as he is because Coop went to Duke. Well, because that's what he's all happy all over.

SPEAKER_03

If any player did something like that, dude, that name me anybody that's anybody else right now besides Cooper Flag that's dropped 50 this. I'm big on Cooper.

SPEAKER_00

Matt's not. I'm big on Coop. I I love Coop. I'm I was big on him too.

SPEAKER_02

This is what I said. This is what I said to piss this dude off. This is what I said to piss this dude off. Generational player? Give me a second. This is what I what I said this piss this dude off. I said, Yeah, I said, dude, let's just slow down a little bit. Okay, let's just slow down with him because they're making it seem like you said, they're making it seem just like what you said. You said the the perfect uh term right now. Like if he's generational talent, which I do not think he is, bro. Now, there's a difference though. Not everybody starts off as generational talent. Like Kobe, he was not. Right? Yeah, Shaq was.

SPEAKER_03

Cooper can be right now. He is not. Cooper is doing things that nobody has ever done. Not LeBron, not Mike, not not Steph, not Kobe. Hold up, pause. Not Timmy, none of them. But that's the thing that I get upset with you about is that you sit there and go, no, no, no, no. Like it's no big deal when this kid is doing stuff that's like this kid is doing stuff that nobody in the league is doing. None of the superstars have done what he's done this year.

SPEAKER_02

Look, this is why. You you want to know why? And he's gonna call me a big time hater. You might even call me a hater, too. You have to grade what's going on right now on a fucking curve, bro. On a curve. You know why? Because Bam Atabayo scored 84 fucking points. That's why. Uh, what's his name's averaging a triple double? That's aver the 30 right now.

SPEAKER_03

Who's averaging a triple double?

SPEAKER_02

Jokic. 30 is the new 20, bro. 30 is the new 20. So all of these records, all of this shit that everybody's breaking, all of these things. Cool, so it's kind of like same thing for Wemby. Same thing for Wemby. Same thing for Wemby. Yeah, same thing for Wimby. All of them. Superstars. Yeah. No, bro. Everybody scores 30 now. Who? Every oh, so I looked up a stat the other day and it said, how many players scored uh 40 points or more? Guess how many?

SPEAKER_00

I'm sure it's gone up because it's the offensive league now. So you know what? Guess how many? No, no, give me a guess.

SPEAKER_03

But that's again like why I'm wearing this shirt too. Bro, because it's a product of the of the of the weak, weak, weak. Thank you. So let's pump the brakes. Thank you. But you're watching this kid play. You're watching the eyeball test shows you that this kid is sick.

SPEAKER_01

Great kid.

SPEAKER_00

Great. Great in the 90s, multiple time all-star. In the 90s, multiple time all-star. If the NBA was this week in the 90s, you don't think the averages will go up? Well, yeah. Then what do you why are you even talking about? But it wasn't. That's the point.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I'm saying. It wasn't. That's the point. Who cares? What cares is when people like him start saying, look, he scored 50 points. Bam scored 83. It's like, yeah, but let's chill out. We all know that it's a fucking cakewalk right now.

SPEAKER_03

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

I'm not.

SPEAKER_03

I just said on Wimby too. Did I not? You watch when you sit there and watch these, you watch Wimby play, amazing. You watch Cooper play, amazing. Like they're just gifted. Did I not just say Coop was good?

SPEAKER_02

I said he's great.

SPEAKER_03

That's the thing is the eyeball test for me. I'm not a stats person. I don't care about stats.

SPEAKER_02

You're not a stats person all of a sudden.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you. I watch way more basketball than you first off.

SPEAKER_02

So I get to the fuck up. No, you don't.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you know what you probably do. There you go. But you don't know more than me. You don't know more? You remember a lot of remember or no? Matt's like, did you know that he was? I'm like, I'll have to I'm like, how did you know that, dog? He had a hot dog that day and a diet coke. Because I'm like, what? Shit. I like it as dub use and number twos, baby. I get dub use and number twos. You know how they do those stupid stats. They're like the first player to ever do that with fucking blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02

On a Tuesday.

SPEAKER_03

On a Tuesday, while eating water while eating water burger with four spicy ketchup. I'm like, ah, okay, makes sense.

SPEAKER_02

No, I get two and two. I get two regular, two spicy, and I mix them together. But usually I don't need the other two. I just get them just in case. Just in case I'm feeling froggy. You got the got the drawer full of ketchups. Yeah, and every couple of months I have to like clean that shit out. I'm like, I don't even know how old these fucking ketchup are.

SPEAKER_00

All right, we've been on this one for a while. Would you think differently? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

Don't get mad because I I I I smoked you on Coop finally. And we haven't, we haven't we haven't on the interweb forever now. I am uh I am a Cooper fan. I told you. I was all happy when we almost got him, bro. We almost got him. Who's the first person that called Drew? Who's the first person that called it? I said, Dog, if we would have got Coop. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

And now he's see, that's what he does. Would you be as high on Harper if he was with Dallas doing the same thing Harper was doing? No.

SPEAKER_02

If I saw him, he didn't even know he was until he got to the fucking team. So it hold on. If I saw him doing what he did, but chances are no, I wouldn't be watching Dallas play. He's all Carter Briny, though. See, I'm gonna be 100% honest with you. But now no, but now that I see what Harper's doing for us, I'll watch every one of our games, obviously. And I'll tell you, I will take him over Con Kanippo. Yes, I will.

SPEAKER_03

No other basketball players.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I will. No other games.

SPEAKER_00

I think we need a shooter. I think we need a shooter, a consistent shooter. Bingo. That's not what I asked you, Johnny. And I would I told you earlier. We'll take Khan Kanippo.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. It's not an easy decision.

SPEAKER_02

See, okay, so this dude, this dude, you can get the fuck out of here. See, see, he crucifies me because I I I would just do it automatically, right? You have a little bit more of a 52-48 or something like that, right? X, who would you take?

SPEAKER_01

Khan Knipple or Dylan Harper. To me, it's all about the system, dude. It's all the way how how players mash it. Basketball's not, you know, just player A versus player B. Right. Yeah, it doesn't work that way, especially when they're that good. Well, they they call they they call them the slash brothers and everything like that. The way we attack the basket with multiple driving, slashing, and everything. I don't know, man. I like it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's why great take, Xavier. That's why I think Kanippo will be good here because he just sits in the corner stuff.

SPEAKER_02

What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00

Khan just sitting there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but Dylan Harper is like a pressure release for us. Remember when we we used to play a pressure release? Long jump. It was okay. Now we're gonna pass it this way, it's gonna, it's gonna go this way. And Doc Matt, Miguel, whatever, boom, he's gonna take that dude that way.

SPEAKER_03

But again, what I'm saying is if you're switching out players and you're switching out this guy into that system and you're getting rid of Harper and you're putting Khan Knipple, you guys are a better team.

SPEAKER_02

Uh no, you're that better. And the older that's not that's not definitive. That's not definitive. No, no, he's a better player. Okay, so like let's let's say let's say this way.

SPEAKER_00

If you if you take out three-point shooter, if you no, he's not a better player.

SPEAKER_03

Good defender, good defender, good ball handler, good three-point shooter. Not as not as good as a finisher. I would take Harper.

SPEAKER_02

He's not a better ball handler than Harper. I think and Harper, he could dictate the offense as well. Also, too, you know what Harper's better at and trend transition than than Khan Knipple. I mean, Con Knipple shoot the lights out, no problem whatsoever. But the intangibles that Harper brings to our team in particular, when we have a Fox that is just kind of being not Fox right now, dude, he's on his ass right now.

SPEAKER_00

But that's why I would take Knipple right now because we have multiple guards that could do what Harper's doing. Now for longevity, no, no, no, no. Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_01

Well, at the same time, that's what that's what's making us good right now. Correct. Correct. So you know what chat said? Just like he said, you need a knockdown.

SPEAKER_03

You need a knockdown.

SPEAKER_02

Champagne, but you're a three-point shooter. Yeah, but guys, look, the system that we have right now, we're number two in the league, bro. Yeah, see what I'm saying? Okay, y'all are acting like if our system is failing. It's not.

SPEAKER_03

No, you have Wemby. That's what we're talking about. Exactly. I'm saying you put Wemby. Because you're swapping out who are the starters who are your starters right now, X? Who are your starters? Fox, Wemby, Champagny?

SPEAKER_00

Are we gonna depend?

SPEAKER_03

Are we gonna try to improve next year?

SPEAKER_02

Do you think no no? Do you think that's the first one? Because that's that's that's a loaded question. Because wait, wait a minute. Yes, we're waiting for the first time. No, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, because I because I think I know what you're asking. I think I know what you're asking. Are you asking, are we gonna try and improve by trading players and things like that?

SPEAKER_00

Trading, adding, whatever, whatever, or developing our players more.

SPEAKER_02

Keep the same players. There's a difference.

SPEAKER_00

Keep the same players you got.

SPEAKER_02

Boom. That's where I'm at. We're fine.

SPEAKER_00

You're not fine.

SPEAKER_02

No, well, you're not we could, we could wait a minute. We we could we could add shooters, of course, right? But not at the sake, okay. So put it this way the whole thing was Gianish before the season started, right? Remember that? And we were talking about giving up Castle, which would have been giving up Harper, I don't think Barnes giving up everybody in one chingaso, and even people like me, even people like me were like, I think we should do it. But because we hadn't seen these kids play. I didn't see now that we saw them. We're like, oh no, no, no, no, no. Now you know what? Now you know what? No, yeah, but you but yeah, I bet you didn't call them. See, and y'all had all this time and y'all still didn't call them. We never said they were good players, like we didn't know where they were gonna go. What do you mean? So when we got castle, Jeremy's not gonna be a little bit more. I'd rather try to not castle or harper. Y'all were happy about it.

SPEAKER_03

I told you they were good. I told you they were good playoffs. What do you mean? You thought they're they're good explosives. So you you thought do you make a broken approach?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I do you? No, he doesn't know any know who they are, he doesn't know any of the team. So what you didn't think that they were gonna do it. We knew who uh they put so so we knew we knew we knew who Zion was. That don't make no difference.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, it does. How? Because you know these players, you know where you could sit there and see that stuff these guys play and say, Man, this dude would good do well here. You would think this guy would do well here. You would think that's the whole point. That doesn't happen all the time. But you sit back and you just watch and they go, Yeah, let's get rid of him.

SPEAKER_02

As a matter of fact, you know what I was saying about Harper? I was saying, dog, he looks great, right?

SPEAKER_03

It doesn't really matter because you didn't even know. He's just watching the regular season.

SPEAKER_02

So I was saying, I was saying, you know, you know what it's great about? I was like, man, he looks great, but the way he's finishing and the way that he could get to the rack, he ain't gonna do that in the league. You know why I like and I was wrong.

SPEAKER_00

I like Harper because he's he's improved since day one to now, right? Yeah, Kanippo's been a hot shooter and hasn't changed. That's all he's done. He's just been cold. He's been cold. That's why it's so hard. Like it's it's not a it's not an easy oh yeah, I'm gonna trade him. Oh, real easy, real easy. No.

SPEAKER_02

But that's how it makes it like that. That's what no, that's what you say, not me. You're the one that has it just automatic. It's a trade. Harper for Knipple.

SPEAKER_03

Automatic, right? I'm saying if that was an let's do this, right? Let's do this real quick. If right now you had Con Kanipple on your team, who would he start over? Everybody. He'd start over fucking Champagny, he'd start over Carter, he'd start over Harper, he'd start over Barnes, he'd start over everybody. That's the point that I'm making is that even if this guy was just on your team and you had all these guys, he still starts over all these guys. I I like what you did there, but that's taken out of context.

SPEAKER_02

Isn't that good?

SPEAKER_03

That's taken out of context. Like totally, yes, it is. Put that man in your starting lineup right now, any of your starters right now. Give me your starters, just give me the starters, and he's gonna be better than everybody besides Fox and Lindy.

SPEAKER_02

Because he's a superior shooter.

SPEAKER_03

That's the point that I'm making.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. But wait, you're all you're almost there, but that doesn't mean that we're a better team. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, it does. No, it doesn't. You put him on that team and you're a better team. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00

I think a shooter opens up doors, huh? A great shooter opens up doors.

SPEAKER_02

So wait, wait a minute. Wait, so so so put it this way.

SPEAKER_00

Y'all think y'all think that what did you say in the beginning? Fox, he gets he gets uh trapped, right? He jumped he dribbles in and gets trapped because they're helping, because we have no shooters. But if Fox goes on Knipple's side, can he help? Well, well, this is the thing.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no, no, no. Right, right. And that's that's one way that it would it would benefit us, right? But but another another way that we're playing right now is we have Fox attacking, we have um uh that's the uh Dylan Harper attacking, we have um uh Castle attacking, and that's better than and that's what's working for us. Okay, you see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

So then having a three-point shooter won't work for you.

SPEAKER_02

It will, but what we're taking away, I don't think that Khan is gonna do more for us. So again, take all around.

SPEAKER_03

Take away those guys.

SPEAKER_02

We're 60 wins in. So y'all think that with going with Khan, we're gonna get what 70? Yeah, right. Dog, you're tripping. No, you're not.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think us doing as good as we're doing right now is all because we're driving it in in those rookies. No, no, no, no. It's because our defense is really good, too. Because of who? Boom. Only because of it.

SPEAKER_02

No, dog, he's a great perimeter defender, and he's 6'6. I think he is. Dude, these kids are all over the place.

SPEAKER_00

I think he is 6'6.

SPEAKER_03

6'4?

SPEAKER_00

6'6.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, he can defend like Harper.

SPEAKER_00

I don't I would say Harper's a better defense player, but Harper's not the only person that's playing defense.

SPEAKER_02

I never said that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you're making it seem like anything. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

Because of the style of the hold on, because of the style that we're playing, all of these kids together.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and see what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I and and and you know, and you know what the smoking gun is for me? 60 wins, bro. When's the last time we had 60 wins?

SPEAKER_00

That's great. I'm not saying we won't have 60 wins. I'm not saying we'll have a lot more. I think I think we'll be right there with OKC if we had Kadipple. Because we have a shooter, you got a shooter, dog.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so you got a shooter, man. That thing just does.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm just talking about right now. I'm just talking about right now.

SPEAKER_02

Not necessarily because you live and die by those shots as well. What did he just do last game? Oh for six. I knew you're gonna bring that up.

SPEAKER_03

But how many did Lamelo take? Lamelo took 37 shots and only had 30 points. Yeah, but at the same time, everybody was cold.

SPEAKER_02

See, everybody was that that's where it's kind of like look, is it and you're talking shit about one game. No, no, no, no, no, but I I said you live and die by that. You know what I'm saying? There's so much more that Harper can do than this guy's shots.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so again, right? What what is it? He's just more explosive finishing the basket. That's really the thing.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, that's it.

SPEAKER_03

That's really the case.

SPEAKER_02

He could create his own shot better.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_02

And he dictates the offense, handles the ball. Cool.

SPEAKER_03

Because he can't do that.

SPEAKER_02

Defense?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you can't do that. Yeah, Khan could do that.

SPEAKER_02

He could do all of those better than Khan by just leaps and bounds. Not necessarily, but he's a better player.

SPEAKER_03

Not a better player.

SPEAKER_02

I oh, so what does he do? What does Khan do better? Other than shoot, other than shoot, what does he do better than?

SPEAKER_00

At the end of the day, I think Harper will be a better player than Kanipple.

SPEAKER_02

Ah, Postchinga. What do we just do?

SPEAKER_00

Rewind the tape. Rewind it. No, that's his opinion. That's fine. He's a better defender. He handles the ball better. I just want I just want a shooter. That's all I want for the Spurs is a shooter. That's fine.

SPEAKER_03

Slightly better defender, slightly better ball handler. And more explosive.

SPEAKER_00

I think he's not I think he's more than slightly better defender. Not as far as white, okay. No, if and I'm gonna say if we gave anybody up, it will be Harper. I would give Harper up for Knipple if we did it. I would because we need a shooter. No, I'd rather you keep him.

SPEAKER_03

You need a shooter.

SPEAKER_00

I'd rather keep him too. I'm not gonna be like you and give up Castle, Bassell, Barnes for Giannis. No, no, no, no, no. That was before the season started. Harper and Kanippo. Totally different is a lot better than everybody want to give up for Giannis.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. Well, yes. Well, now in hindsight, yes. Even before you can't do that.

SPEAKER_00

I said no before.

SPEAKER_02

You liar. Everybody wanted Giannis.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, you're a liar.

SPEAKER_02

Also, you, you're like, roll it. No, no. You were like roll it. I said it would be. You know why? You know why? Because you know what everybody was saying? Everybody was saying, yeah, because we don't know what this Kid Harper's gonna end up being. Remember when everybody was saying that? So you might as well get the two-time MVP.

SPEAKER_00

I think the only player I said that was is valuable to the Spurs right now to give up, or not that they're not all valuable because they are, is Vassell and Barnes and a couple draft picks.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but you're not gonna get you're not gonna get Giannis for that. So they want the number one picks. That's what they want. I didn't I didn't think you'd have to.

SPEAKER_00

If you give them several first round picks, why wouldn't they do it? Well they did it. They're gonna be in a rule book. Well, they did it. We never offered it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I think we did. Well, we don't know that.

SPEAKER_00

Like three first rounders? Like actually.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. No, I think they wanted like eight or something stupid like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well they're retarded.

SPEAKER_02

That's that's what that's why I