How Far Will The Spurs Go In The Playoffs? Call It Now!

The conversation starts off with NBA playoff matchups… but quickly turns into a heated debate about the Spurs, player comparisons, and what it really takes to win in today’s league. From Giannis vs AD to bold playoff predictions, this episode gets real fast.

🎙️ In this episode:
 • Eastern Conference playoff predictions
 • Spurs playoff ceiling and expectations
 • Giannis vs Anthony Davis debate
 • Shaq vs Jokic comparison breakdown
 • Coaching vs players in big moments
 • Wemby’s mentality and impact
 • Spurs vs Bulls franchise debate

🧠 What you'll learn:
 • How matchups impact playoff success
 • Why “skill vs winning” is always debated
 • What separates contenders from pretenders
 • How mindset (like Wemby’s) affects team performance
 • Why coaching adjustments matter in the playoffs

⏱️ CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS
 00:00 Intro
 00:10 Eastern Conference breakdown
 00:45 Top teams debate (Cavs, Pistons, Celtics)
 01:20 Giannis vs AD argument
 03:30 Shaq vs Jokic comparison
 04:50 Spurs playoff expectations
 06:10 Wemby mentality discussion
 07:15 Coaching vs players debate
 08:30 Spurs franchise history talk
 09:00 Spurs vs Bulls argument

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Anyway, so uh who do we got? We got the Blazers. Do y'all even want to talk about the Eastern Conference? The League of Eastern Conference. Well, the Pistons. Okay, we got the Pistons over the Magics or the Hornets. Easy. Cavs, Raptors, Cavs, right? Or no? Hawks, Knicks, that's gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Shit, the Hawks always give the Knicks fucking pro trouble. Suck. I don't like Zesty Cat anyways, but the Knicks will win that one. So uh well pass me the ball.

unknown 0:28

Pass it.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

We got Celtic Sixers. Who are your top two teams in the Easter Conference before the channel?

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Who?

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Easter Conference.

SPEAKER_02 0:34

Eastern two teams. The Cam uh the Cavs and the Pistons.

SPEAKER_00 0:37

The Pistons are sneaky, man.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

Oh, you know what? Boston too is coming up right now.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

But is Cade coming back? Yeah, he's already back. He's been back. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Yeah, he's I I like them. They were playing, they're playing the game.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

It's for the Pistons, Boston, and Cavs for me. I didn't know Cade was back already.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Yeah, Cade's back, and they went they were winning without him. They're playing very well. They're actually playing really well. Um, I got the Blazers, and I'm just playing. I got the Pistons, I go Cavs, I'll go Knicks. The Sixers are sneaky, but nah, Celtics. Joel and B's hurt for like the 97th time. It doesn't even matter. Yeah. They got VJ Ed VJ Edgecombe on that team. He's he's gonna be solid.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

What's your boy doing?

unknown 1:12

Who?

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Mr. Glass. Did you ever did did you take the win? Did you take the L for that one? That's the old that was the one. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22

No, was it close? Because I won on we put it on Facebook and I won that one. I put Facebook at least even even when he even when he loses, he puts it to a vote himself and lost.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Y'all were all wrong. What he doesn't he doesn't get that he'll he think he thinks because he won the poll and everybody was wrong, that that makes him right.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Hey, hey, but that's funny because if it was his, he'd be like, oh yeah, take her out, take her out. So, guys, guys, but put this on me.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Guys, what we were talking about a couple of years back is this was right after Giannis had won his second uh defensive player of the year award, if I'm not mistaken. And I said, Who are you gonna take in your prime? Giannis or AD? We put it to a vote, and unanimously everybody picked A D and me, along with a uh a few others picked Giannis. Y'all were wrong about that one, obviously. And just because the the majority said ad and they were wrong, he thinks he was annoyed. That makes him right. Well, because it could make still sense.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

Him putting it up the post, you'd be fucking a thousand percent right, right? I picked A D and I think. But here's the thing because AD, thank you, Johnny. AD, we're talking about him as far as skill for skill, right? We're not talking about the injuries. The thing is, the dude's injured all the time. I get that. That's the whole point that I'm trying to make. If a guy's injured, doesn't mean he sucks, it means he fucking he's a pussy, or it means that he fucking just gets hurt all the time. But a skill for skill, fucking what does Jonas do better than fucking AD? Win game, win basketball games? They said stupid shit like that. Win basketball game, skillful, not a better shooter, not a better ball handler, probably just as quick and fast as he is, or whatever. A great finisher, good defender. They're both John's better defender, slightly. I go, but bro, come on, like come on. But who would you take? Skill for skill in their prime, prime, no injuries. So who would you take? So put it this way put it take if you knew nobody was gonna get injured.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

Be honest, see, he likes that easy, he's also the broader. It's like this. See, see what he tries to do. See what he tries to do, he tries to like win an argument one way, right? Like, let's just go skill way. Put it put it like this what's the fucking matter? Watch, watch, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Watch, watch. I'm gonna show you a good example. I'm gonna show you a good example. Watch. What does Shaq do better than Joker? He's just a big motherfucker.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Dunks the ball.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

No, yeah, okay. So what does Joker do better than Shaq? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Right, right? Everything. Who would you take in their prime? Shoot.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

But he does better, shoot.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

You you already know that. 2001, who would you take in their prime? Like, it's not even close. It depends what's gonna win.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

That's all he does better is shoot. X pass, pass, and shoot. It's hands. I take Shaq. That's fine. See, but that's why your argument failed. Here's the thing is again, like, what what is it? You saw what I just did, Johnny. Giannis has tried to get a better shot. He's tried to be better at those type of things, right? I just like more well-rounded players. You guys like guys every fucking life. Oh, you just gotta like guys like Shaq. I mean, that dude, it's it's a skillful motherfucker. Like, what do you want to fucking do?

SPEAKER_02 4:18

So just because he's skillful doesn't mean it's gonna equate to more wins, brother. Not all the time.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

What team was he on the while taking about my team so we can win the basketball game? Who was he with? Who 80 when he originally came in when he originally came into the league?

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Pelicans.

SPEAKER_01 4:33

He was with and then he was a boogie.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Anyway, preparing for that. Okay, so um obviously the unbiased fan, but the biased Spurs fans here. You gotta give me that, man. I'm a pretty unbiased. Like, if I I'll tell you, okay. Well then, well, let's hear your input uh as well. Too well, how how far are the Spurs gonna go? Call it right now.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

I think y'all are. I think y'all are talented enough. I mean, with what we have as far as where you guys are matching up with, I think you beat Portland. Nuggets, I think, are gonna give you some trouble if they get through.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

I think second round, no matter what, Nuggets or Minnesota.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

I think the Nuggets or Minnesota's gonna give you a hard time.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

If we get through second round, we're at Championship. Think so.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Yeah, if you guys can get past the Nuggets, Nuggets or Timberwolves, man, because then if not, then you're seeing the thunder of the Rockets.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Man, I honestly I'm still I I don't man, I don't know. It it's hard for me because check this out. If we play, which we're probably gonna play the Nuggets, man. I don't know, man. Minnesota could probably take the Nuggers first.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

And I mean you're getting you're getting Anthony Edwards rested coming back. Well, that's the big thing. You're getting Anthony Edwards coming back rested because he was injured, right? What happened to him? I didn't see what happened to him. What do you what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 5:43

I mean, well, he's gonna he's gonna they're gonna play though, they're gonna have a series. So whoever comes out of the second round for us, they're gonna be beat up no matter what, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:53

I hope it's a long series.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

That's what I'm saying. I think it's going six games. Easy.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

I hope it goes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

I hope it was six to seven. So whoever, whoever we get, which is most likely gonna be the Nuggets, I still think we got a good shot. I just think OKC is gonna be different, man, in the playoffs. That's what I think, even though we have their number.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

The only reason I feel that Yeah, it was a knee injury. Got hurt for he had a knee injury.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Didn't I say the meniscus? Was that wrong?

SPEAKER_01 6:19

I don't know. It just said knee injury he was out for a while.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

I don't know if it's the meniscus, so I think it might be basically.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

Is because of Wimby's mentality.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Yeah, man. But I mean, again, dude, that's the thing with their kids.

SPEAKER_00 6:33

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

Yeah, it's it's it's all about the matchups, man.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Without a Wimby mentality, a Kobe mentality, a Jordan mentality, you're you're not gonna play as hard as if if you have something.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

Wemby moves the needle massively.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Now, is it enough to move?

SPEAKER_02 6:49

That's what I'm saying. Who knows? But they're gonna play they're gonna step it up just like everybody else. See, like I I appreciate that, like the Wimby's you know, Koraha that he has, but at the same time, I think it's more so about the matchups, it's more so about the the um the way that we respond. And you know what it's gonna be, man? It's gonna come down to coaching and the way that we make adjustments. That's what it comes down to. That's what playoff ball is all about.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Spreading spreading it out, spreading it out, and then fucking playing them back to back to back to back.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Regular season 14-digit game uh point leads that we lost. You think that was more players or coaching? Both. Yeah, both.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

Yeah, it it depends. I mean, you could pick one game and it could have been the coaching. I don't mean to be like, you know, like on the line.

SPEAKER_01 7:35

But I mean shit. Shit. Y'all are hard on Mitch.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

He's fucking doing great, man. Wow, man.

SPEAKER_01 7:39

Do you know how many Spurs friends are like me?

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Nah, fuck that.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Dude, goddamn.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

I think he was number two for coach of the year, right? Yeah, something like that.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

They haven't picked it.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

And and what really earned Mitch's stripes is the the run that we went on when Wimby was wasn't there. You know what I'm saying? I mean, he was showing that man, we could we could survive without him. I think we won more games, you know. We won more games without Wimby than you know. He's putting he put players in in positions to be successful. He's doing great, man. Yeah, I think it was a good thing. He's doing awesome.

SPEAKER_00 8:06

As a matter of fact, too, he's got a good job, Mitch. Is this our second best record?

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Uh I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Yeah.

unknown 8:14

No.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

When did y'all want 60? I think it is, right? Is it the second best in franchise history? I think it's the second best record. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

Um I remember I had taken uh taking a picture of it, right? Let me see.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Yeah, so what are you looking at? I I think if we get all the second round, we're in the Western Conference Finals.

SPEAKER_02 8:32

So oh, so what what do we win? So we won 60 shit.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

We had 20 losses, 60 wins.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

How many?

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

How many 60 wins? 60, I believe. We have won 67, 61, 62, 63, and 62. Oh, and 61 again. So one, two, three, four, five, six. This is our seventh, seventh best. I mean, which which takes me to my next uh topic. Obviously, we are a better franchise than the Bulls. It's like not even.

SPEAKER_03 9:02

How many three peats do y'all got?

SPEAKER_02 9:03

That's it.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

How many three-peats? I mean, I have more rings than you. Fuck are we talking about? So that's it. That's it. You win the player of all time.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

So greatest player of all time. And then greatest player of all time, more rings, more three-peats. Go give me some french fries, bro. Give me something to eat.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

You think you think the Bulls have a greater franchise than us? Give me a water burger with you. 50 uh like what uh uh 20, 50 win seasons. Look at all these 60 win seasons. I mean, we have all that in fewer rings. I mean, we're gonna go back to one fewer ring.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

One is one.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Oh, y'all just happen to have the greatest player of all time.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Mine's better.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

You said LeBron's Bruce Clear.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

Huh?

SPEAKER_00 9:40

You said LeBron's grid's clear, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02 9:42

Shut the fuck up. Yeah, I don't even think it's close at this point. At the same time, too, they've squandered so much talent, it's not even funny. It's not even close either.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Go fuck yourself, Josh Primo.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

You see?

unknown 9:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Matt was like, hey, let me see your chile.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

And he's like, I mean, if he was showing it already. Hey, where did Josh Primo play college bot? Alabama, no? Oh shit, he actually got it right. I don't know. Don't you don't want to try and uh like ask me these questions.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Now, if you if you if you ask me, where did Vinito Negro play bad college?

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Vinito Negro? Vinito. Utah State. You're right. Uh man, I don't know. Who knows? Where did uh Sean Elliott play? I was just watching this. Arizona. Shut up. Oh fuck, I was saying him. Fucking pick another one. He was at the game. Huh? He went?

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Wasn't he at the Arizona game?

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Oh yeah. Uh who's the second best Arizona player? Or uh, I mean, who could who could go at?

SPEAKER_01 10:37

Larry Johnson was at the UN.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Who could go against Sean? Xavier knows. Nah, maybe not. Who?

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Charles was at oh no, Charles went to Auburn.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Yeah. Yeah. Richard Jefferson. You know who it was? Richard Jefferson, yeah. Richard Jefferson played. He's better than Richard Jefferson. Gilbert Renus. Oh, that's right. Oh, he played with Jefferson.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

Agent Zero.

SPEAKER_02 11:00

He played with Jeffers.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

Gilbert Renus was cold. Yeah. So he started shooting his teammates.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

And then having ditty parties of his own. Fifteen minutes.