Real Estate, Poker & Entrepreneur Mindset | Breaking the Matrix

Most people think buying a home is just about having a place to live—but what if it’s actually your first step to breaking out of the cycle and building real wealth? In this episode, we dive into mindset, entrepreneurship, real estate investing, poker psychology, and how calculated risks shape success. From first-time home buyers to entrepreneurial ambition, this conversation gets real about how people think, how they make decisions, and what separates those who stay stuck from those who move forward.

🎙️ In this episode:

• Why homeownership can be the first step to financial freedom
 • The mindset shift from survival mode to investment thinking
 • First-time home buyers and the education they actually need
 • Duplexes, leverage, and long-term wealth building
 • Entrepreneur spirit vs simply wanting stability
 • Poker lessons that apply directly to business and life
 • Calculated risks vs reckless gambling
 • Personality, networking, and how success really works

🧠 What you'll learn:

• Why buying a home may be the wisest move—not the easiest
 • How to think beyond just monthly payments
 • Why some people succeed with side hustles and others fail
 • The connection between poker strategy and business decisions
 • How personality impacts networking and entrepreneurship
 • Why “just showing up” matters more than most people realize

⏱️ CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Breaking the Matrix Through Homeownership
 01:20 The Wisest Way vs The Easiest Way
 02:00 Entrepreneur Mindset vs Stability
 02:30 First-Time Buyer Education Process
 03:18 Preferences, Lifestyle & Financial Reality
 04:16 Side Hustles and Real Hustle Mentality
 05:06 Dana White, Poker & Playing Big
 05:52 Life Lessons From the Poker Table
 06:19 Tournament Stories and Poker Psychology
 07:09 What Gambling Reveals About People
 08:00 Calculated Risks vs Gambling
 09:12 Building the Right Poker Table
 09:41 Personality, Networking & Success
 10:44 The Common Trait of Successful People

📢 About the Podcast

Anything and Everything with Matt Reyna is where real conversations happen—real estate, entrepreneurship, mindset, sports, business, and life. No fluff, just honest conversations with people who bring value and perspective.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Um now do you think, man, that people can switch their mentality, can get out of whatever they're doing now. See, I okay, so there's like a full plan that I have whenever it comes to one of my clients. Not only do I want to just sell them a house, you know, I want them, I want to spark their mind. And I want them to get into not necessarily, not necessarily an entrepreneurial spirit per se, like go and uh you know, you know, do something extraordinary, but at least start investing, not be so nearsighted. Correct. I see what you're saying. And I I want them to see that there's a way to break the code of the matrix that we're all in, to use uh an Andrew Tate analogy. But I mean, because when you are kind of stuck in a position of keep on making ends meet, going round and round, which we've all been before, you know, you kind of think to yourself, man, it may just stay this way forever, but the investment is the property that you're living in, by my perspective. Obviously, you could always do the SP and you could do other things, but um, I think this this is the easiest way because you're living in the property and it takes three and a half percent down, you know, down payment assistance, this and that, whatever, right? You can leverage that property eventually, and now it gets the mind going. And now you're like, Well, what else can I do now? Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 1:20

I would stop saying easiest way, I would start saying the wisest way. Okay. Only only because none of that is easy. No, none none of it is. Uh, even if you've got your stuff together, it's still not gonna be easy. Sure. Um, is it worth it? Well, that's up to you to do the math to find out if it is worth it. But more times than not, it's how long are you gonna stay in the home? That's you you do that equation every time you buy a house, you'll probably do well. And if you can overcome the the break-even point of any home purchase you buy. That's the truth of the matter. Sure. Uh, does that make sense? Yeah, no, no, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

I I feel that in some cases, right? We look at it from entrepreneur spirit, which is is great, but a lot of times they just want to know where they're gonna lay their head, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:09

That that's where Martin always brings me to like, whoa, yeah, like uh you can't not I don't want to say help everybody, but you can't make everybody see that's correct the vision that you that you have, which that's why I kind of love bouncing ideas off of y'all because I'm like, well, I I always say if I could do it, then anybody can do it. Yeah, right. But not everybody wants what I want.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

I think I think like as an example of I think what you're trying to say, or for me, every single first-time home buyer that I help in our Zoom call, I go over the concept of buying a duplex, buying a this, so that you can whether they want it or not, it's just a part of the education process when I meet with them. There are a small select few that go, you know what? I read about that. That is something that we'd be interested in. Okay, great. On the others, I'm gonna educate them if it piques their interest. Okay, we'll we'll dig, we'll dive further down that road. But if it doesn't, no problem, let's get back on track, type concept. Does that make sense? Like I don't want to be the white guy that goes or or that they say, well, he never told me that.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

So I I remember one time this guy he asked me, he's all why do you drive the GMC? I said, because I like it. You're you're they're all like, you're exactly right. Why are you not driving uh Mercedes? I said, because I prefer the GMC. I yeah, and and then the the concept goes to well, you're gonna like what you like. I'm gonna like what I like. And everybody else is gonna do whatever they're gonna want to do. So at the moment, it's just whatever they're gonna want to do at that time. So you can't pick and choose, hey, just because it's a great idea for me doesn't mean it's gonna be a great idea for everybody else. A lot of times people get so stuck with like, oh shoot, I gotta make sure my mortgage gets paid. Like, I can't step into entrepreneur spirit when I am barely just making it. How am I gonna be able to take my time away from this in order to start doing these side hustles? And then some of those side hustles are also distractions too. Yeah, they're costing you more money. Yesterday I met this guy, he was all like, Oh yeah, I made $12,000.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

I was playing poker yesterday, so Mike were just talking about that right now.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

So he wins $12,000, right? And then after he was up, he's all like, All right, this has been a good day. I'm gonna go do Uber for the rest of the day. Whoa. And I was all like, Well, how much money are you gonna make? He's all like, maybe like $200. And then I was all like, okay, I was all you just want $12,000. Like, that is so many days of Ubering. Why would you do that? He's all because I'll lose this money again. I could make it back up. So I was all like, Damn, this guy's about to go hustle for another five, six hours to make $200.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Where me and you would just try and bluff somebody out of the next hand for the $200 that I was gonna make today.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

That's the thing. Like, he has his comfortability. That extra is like the entrepreneur spirit, the little extras, little little jerry, uh cherries or or gems, right?

SPEAKER_01 5:06

Well, y'all know the way that Dana plays, right? Dana White. Oh, he's massive. He's like, dude, I play fast and I play big. And he, you know, he does his things or whatever. He goes, Y'all's problem is y'all go in there and you start you start trying yeah, 300 bucks and you're trying to, he goes, I go in there with 200 grand. If I double up that 200 grand, if I double it up in five minutes, seven minutes, I'm done. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, and that's where I think a lot of people kind of just keep on going back and back. And it's it that now that that whole mentality, and I think it goes to our mentality as entrepreneurs and thinking that we can make magic happen that man, we just need that one more card, or we need a I know that we we I know that we think that but we also think that we could outplay, you know, outplay the hand or outplay whatever, and I think that that reflects in life as well, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Oh man, I just yeah, uh I learned a great deal of life behind a round table, behind an oval table.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

My friend used to say, Man, all I need is a chip and a chair. Yeah, he would say that all I need is a chip in a chair, and you never know what can happen. That may be true in a tournament.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Cash, you it might be out.

SPEAKER_01 6:11

We were all at the same tournament, right? At the the Henry B uh that that wasn't Henry B.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

It was um it was for um Ray Fail.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

They had that's right, uh the fiesta thing. That's what it was. I was saying that me and Mark, we were at the same table. So we had no idea. So we were we're we're at the same table, right? And we kept on getting into like these bloodbaths a little bit, right? It was gonna get there, like we're gonna have full combustion. No, no, no, no, no, no. But it's funny though, because like the players end up always clashing, you know what I'm saying? So I ended up getting to his table and we were playing, and I'm like, I kept on checking down the table, and I'm like, You got it, Mark? And and people are getting a kick out of me because I was already like whiskeys in, right? And I'm like, You got it, Mark? And and everybody was like, just checking out the action. And Mark was just like stone cold, dude. And I'm like, he's got it, bro. And I I would just like I would just fold, right? We had his headphones on the whole time. He wasn't really listening to me the whole team. I was like, you were talking to me.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

You you learn so much about people whenever you watch them gamble, right? True. I've never seen Mark lose. He might have lost, he might have had some bad beats, but he always gets it in good. Too many people gamble. Oh, yeah, and they gamble a lot in life. Yeah, definitely. Or they risk the house not knowing they got you know any type of backup. I already know. Shoot, if marks for whatever getting it in, it it has to be good. Like every like every time that we've played together, I haven't seen you.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Well, the idea is is people and I've I've been playing poker, Texas Hold'em since I was 17, started dealing cards at 18, started running a go game at 19. So I've been, I mean, that's how I that's why I don't have any student loan debt, but I've got four years of college under my belt.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

It reminds me of uh Boiler Room. Remember how he's running that running that little game or whatever?

SPEAKER_00 8:00

But people will say, Why do you gamble? If you make so much money over here doing your job and these entrepreneur things, why do you gamble? I'm not gambling, guys. I'm not gambling. I'm taking very calculated risks, no doubt. Um, but it's the same concept of investing in the stocks. You're gambling, you got less control than I do.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Very true. With a bank road that you could afford to gamble with, or or or that you could 100% that you could afford to take a uh calculated risk with, and uh guys, y'all don't want it with these guys. So if you if you think yourself hey man set up a game and we'll all play no no no, these guys playing pretty pretty pretty fast and pretty big. Did I remember that one time we were all playing? It was uh because you said um he has some of those on on uh on stream or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were all together, bro. He don't remember me there. I got busted up okay like that, bro. And busted me at present.

SPEAKER_02 9:01

Well, you you fucking shoved into me. I had a set.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

What do you want me to do? It was the first one though, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:06

No, well, he went twice. He bought in twice. Yeah, I bought in twice.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

But it was at the first time first. Okay, that makes sense. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

We need to do it again, man. Um, yeah, we were talking about it, but I think we'll probably start a little lower.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

What was the buying that time? Some people last longer. Oh, yeah. That's uh yeah, that's that's yeah, you know, you start just playing totally different at that point, you know. And then you get the Scots and the Cody's, and you know what I'm saying? They just start saying, dude, last I like playing against both of them, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

It's always good action, too. Yeah, I think we get a pretty good table.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

Whenever we do that, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

Now, um, tell me guys, whenever you see, I guess, like a particular do you recognize the person speaking of Scott and and and Cody? I mean, those are almost two like um polar opposites as far as personality. Where does that come into play with people's success and people being able to network and kind of who you know type of thing? Is does that come into play or not really?

SPEAKER_00 10:05

I would say that your personality is something that can enhance the mindset depend so you can leverage your personality. If you're more of a uh introvert, well then you're probably going to be pretty good if you've got a mindset of an entrepreneur type person at working behind the scenes and shaking hands and kissing babies the other way, whereas somebody extroverted is gonna use their personality to actually shake hands and kiss babies, if that makes sense. That's definitely but other than that, no, I've seen many blump on a wall log uh type people make plenty of entrepreneurial decisions and and succeed and fail, etc.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

I guess what I was trying to kind of get uh that that question I was trying to is there something in common? Mindset.

SPEAKER_02 10:51

I think yeah, just showing up is one of the biggest things. There it is, there it is. Gotcha.