Set It Off

Aidan and Noah watch a classic for the first time with 1996's Set It Off starring Jada Pinkett, Queen Latifah, Vivica A. Fox and Kimberly Elise.

Yes there are two Vivica Fox episodes in a month.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:15

Welcome back, no takers. I'm Aiden and I did not rob a bank.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Well, I'm Noah Aaron, and maybe I did. What's it to you?

SPEAKER_03 0:23

Ooh, I think you threatened to blow the bank up. Noah wanna blow the bank up. Joke, you know, comedic purposes, comedic purposes, since.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

Yeah, we're not we're not blowing up.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

We don't know what state we live in today, truthfully.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Why? Well, and you know, we don't we don't know how to make explosives. We don't we don't do that.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Literally, all I know how to do is pedal products across these United States. That is my only joke.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Period, period.

SPEAKER_03 0:49

And running my mouth and being cute. And having the best hairline in New York City. But that's enough about me.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 0:57

This week we are getting into Set It All, a 1990 Tex Classic. And I think in our appropriate closing out to Black History Month, it is a star-studded cast for a heist movie, a prime action film, with Jada Pinkett, Queen Latifah, Vivica Fox, and Kimberly Elise in her film acting debut. Who knows as the rest, you know, by name recognition, but I think Kimberly Elise is at least she's who I think of when I think of the term black famous. Because she's been there after like every black movie. So shout out to her and her discography, her filmography.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

And good for her always having a role, good for her always finding a damn role.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

Right?

SPEAKER_00 1:39

I I booked this. I love an actor that stays work and it's got a long ass discography. When I see an actor that's been working for like decades and they have like a relatively like small discography, I'm like, oh you pretentious bitch.

SPEAKER_03 1:56

Well, sometimes if you if if you hit a big area like Rupert Grit, you can just do whatever. Just do a bunch of bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Right? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:04

But you know, set it all follows four close friends in Los Angeles, California, who plan to execute a bank robbery, each do himself for different reasons to achieve better for themselves and their families. So classic, you know, tearjerker crime movie. But you know, as we discussed while watching it, it was very much the life of Grand Theft Auto with the emotional heartbeats of like an HBL show. So it really was. It was something. It was something. But this was a kind of a classic film, something I I had never seen, but is known to be a cult classic. But Noah, you had have you ever even heard of it when I mentioned it? I brought it up to you.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

No, I literally had no idea. And the thing is, is like going into it, even though I knew what movie we were gonna be watching for the podcast, I looked nothing up. I didn't even look at the premise. Like I literally went into it having no idea. Like I knew literally all I knew is that I didn't even know that Jada was in it. I just knew that Queen Latifa and Vivica were in it. Like I literally um I literally came in like just completely like not all I knew was that the only indication I had of what I was getting into was when I when I searched for it on Tubi, the movies that I got suggested instead. Um that that that that's all that really let me know, like kind of give me a hint of what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

I don't know you went in that blind. I thought you had at least, you know, looked up a premise or something.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

So no, I went in completely blind.

SPEAKER_03 3:31

Which makes it we had to watch it together for the viewers, you know.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

So we were getting each other's reactions live, and pretty much this movie starts off with a bang. It is a high ski pride movie, they don't play you're wrong for that. They don't pull any bunches. That was not intentional, but they don't pull any punches, it essentially starts with a heist robbery. That's not them, but Vivica's character, Frankie, is working at the bank that gets robbed. She loses her job because she just happens to know the robber.

unknown 4:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:07

There's a lot of action. There's a lot of action.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Yeah, I was like, I was like, hey, what kind of movie is this? And then like the thing is, is like after that first scene when we were getting more of like the friends themselves, like, I thought it was going maybe in more of like a comedic route. I was like, okay, okay. I was like, we can we can do this. And then there was all the there was a lot of moments about the movie that carried a lot of emotional weight. And by the end of it, I was like, hey, what did you convince me to watch? This is this is sad, this is depressing.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

You're not really a movie crier, but I I can tell the emotional beach we're getting to you. I definitely tear it up a bit with my dramatic ass.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

Well, yes, yeah, you that's it. You you're you're a little more theatrical than I am with that when it comes to the.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

Now it's theatrics, now it's theatrics. Now I'm pulling out a cry angle. Now I'm pulling out a cry angle.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

I think if Candace tried to selling those cryangles, like I think she should, I I believe you would own some. I believe you would own some.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

Only if I was attending your funeral.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

What?

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Well now we said with the rest of these girls.

SPEAKER_03 5:11

Uh no, I didn't say all that. I didn't say all that.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

You said you were gonna have me smoked.

SPEAKER_03 5:19

You're acting like Karen Huger. We need to get back to the picture.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Which I wonder if she watched that at all.

SPEAKER_03 5:24

I wonder if she watched that at all. I wonder if she watched that at all.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

How Karen Huger's watched this movie.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

Yeah. I mean she might be saw it in theaters. She might be saw it on theaters. I didn't she was acting like too classy for it. Like, I'm not watching that.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

My mom kind of knew what it was.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Oh, that queen. Did she see it in theaters?

SPEAKER_00 5:44

I don't think she saw it in theaters, but she knew what it was. Well, I'm pr I'm pretty sure she was pregnant with you when this was out, so yeah, no, this movie literally came out the year I was born, 1996.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

Which you know, I usually don't like movies from the 90s. I usually I'm just kind of annoyed by them, but this had good camera quality, and I think it aged well. It's not all like we're in 90s, you know? Like a kind of like a backdrop, and you could tell. And you can kind of tell with the clothing and whatnot, but the slang ages quite well. I mean, obviously, because phones and stuff didn't exist, but people robbing banks don't we need to be using phones anyway, so they don't really have that. But there's something about it that just like feels I don't necessarily modern, but just doesn't feel dated.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

Yeah, no, I think they definitely uh I think well, I think A, the story itself is kind of timeless. I think the characters I think the thing is, is the characters are so the characters to me felt very like real for the most part. Like they didn't necessarily feel like because you know sometimes when you're watching especially when you're watching an older movie, like the characters are almost so like stereotypes of their time. Like the characters just feel so much like it's kind of like I saw an early interesting Reddit thread the other day about mean girls and how like when you watch mean girls, it is just it's just 2004, like it's just it's so of its time, and not in a bad way, but it's just like it's so blatantly of its time, and like it's set in such a specific, very like short window of like an era of time and culture. Um, these characters feel very timeless, the story feels timeless. Um, I think it helps, like you mentioned kind of the phones and technology. I feel like there wasn't much of a focus on tech in this movie, like you didn't really see them using they don't need to be. I guess those guns are told this out, but yeah, but I mean they weren't using like phones really, they weren't using like the computers of the time. Like, there just wasn't a lot of focus on technology, which I think helps it age better. Um, and then also it probably helps that like 90s fashion trends have been having a comeback. So a lot of the outfits that the characters were wearing, I was like, Oh, I see I see girl I see like little Gen Z girls wearing this on TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 7:50

Right? Oh no, definitely a lot of what Jada was wearing, a lot of the flannel and whatnot.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

I don't think the performances were just good, like the characters really threw themselves into it. And while reading more about the movie, the director really, really cared about chemistry amongst the girls. So making sure they hung out together and then they liked each other and kind of like you know, making sure to build the group together. And you know, Vivika talked about how she kind of knew Queen Latifa and that helped, and then they got she got to know, you know, Vivika, uh she's Vivica, that she got to know she got to know Jada a little better through this project and got to know Kimberly Elites who have previously come from theater, which makes sense because she was very expressive. You know, the theater girls they know how to unmouth.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Right. They they play for the back, they play for the back row. Yeah, and definitely the chemistry shows because I mean like watching this movie, I mean these girls like real they really felt like a tight friend group, you know, like you could you could feel it, and I think that is really what adds so much because I think I think that in this movie the characters didn't necessarily get a lot of time on their own. Like we didn't get very many solo scenes to the characters. Um a lot of it was their group dynamic, but I think it worked because I think that just their group dynamic alone and their friendship really allowed there to be so much emotional weight for later in the movie as things became much more tragic.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Oh, yeah, for sure. And I think the structure was kind of built up quite nicely because you kind of get to know each character's their motivations behind robbing a damn bank in the beginning, so everyone kind of well, except for Cleo, Queen Latifa's character, but everyone kind of has something that happens very majorly in the beginning of the story that kind of motivates them to be in this position and kind of shows you how life was beating them the fuck up. It kind of gets you into them.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

Yeah, it kind of gives you that moment. That moment where they kind of have their breaking point where it's like the system, you know.

SPEAKER_03 9:47

Yeah. But essentially we'll we'll start with Miss Stoney. I feel like she's the main character. That's Jada's character.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Yeah, it definitely feels like her story.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

It's definitely her story. But you know, she what you call it. She works at the uh janitor service with her best friends, Cleo and T T. Who are uh, you know, Tifa's character and Kimberly Elise's character. She's our brother Stevie, who just got to UCLA. She really cares about her family. Her parents have recently passed away. So she's really just trying to make it work for her and her brother. She's really gone through a lot. And we find out very early on that her story is gonna end tragically when her brother gets caught up with some gang shit because he doesn't want to be a preppy college boy, he wants to go be down. So even though he did get into UCLA, he lies to her and starts hanging around with the hood rat who initially robbed the bank and gets the same haircut as them. So the police got his ass down, like in their apartment complex. So still is going through it within the first you know, 15-20 minutes of the movie. And we also kind of get the landscape of you know, distrusting the cops, the racial tensions in the movie, also the circumstances that they're living in. And how this was you know, he had the opportunity to go to college, get out, and kind of, you know, the character we're all rooting for, which would be the first of many deaths in this movie.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Right. What I think it's so interesting to me that um her brother, who's a character that we get almost no time with before he's killed, um, it's still like that death, even before she gets there to react to it, which adds another layer to it. But just that death alone has so much emotional weight, I think, because it's so it's so like visceral and like realistic. And like that's an and that's another thing, is that like the unfortunately part of why this movie I think ages so well is because the commentary has really like the situation has not necessarily changed, so the commentary has aged well.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

It has not gotten bad.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

I think that thing it it feels it feels just still so relevant, so it's kind of like like watching it, you really like it feels like it's happening like right now today in this moment. You know, it's not like it's uh sometimes you watch an older movie and they're like addressing something that's kind of like an issue of the past, so it doesn't it doesn't hit you as hard versus something that's still going on, it really hits you in that way.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

No, this was constructed quite well. The director they hate that, they hate that. F. Gary Gray, F. Gary Gray. He's a he directed the waterfalls music video by TLC.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

Okay, so he he he could just do he can just do it all, huh?

SPEAKER_03 12:25

And the eighth installment of the Fast and Furious franchise, he has quite a series of work cutters, but I love the variety. He needs to cast me in something. But on top of her, we have Frankie, who's played by Vivica Fox, who works at the bank. You know, as we said, she gets that gets robbed. And they accuse her of being an accomplished just because she knows it. She wants somebody to get shot in front of her face, had a gun pointed to her face, got blood all over her blazer, her nice blazer.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

I know that's what gagged me is like it's like, damn, she's like sitting there being interrogated, and she still has that late that she still has that that customer's blood on her face and in her wig, and she's being interrogated, and now she's getting fired. That's crazy to me.

SPEAKER_03 13:09

Being accused of doing an entire job would piss me off. Yeah, I think I got a cut from that, get a blood all over me. You think I would agree to that?

SPEAKER_00 13:17

That's like, yeah, you think you think I was a part of this shit? Um, yeah, and I will say, I feel like her character, because I feel like the other characters like uh TT and um and Stony, I feel like they still have some like con, even though like they have their breaking point and they decide to participate in this, they still kind of have their conflict throughout the movie, like, oh, should we still be doing this? Or oh, is this gonna but like Frankie just like once Frankie gets fired, she goes all in, she's like, fuck all this shit, let's blow the bank up, let's rob these bitches.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

You know, that's her pretty quick, losing her nice good job.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

Yeah, and she and she really doesn't slow down throughout the movie. She kind of like like and in some ways she becomes like the most ruthless one of the group.

SPEAKER_03 14:02

Yeah, no, she quickly is like, you know what? That's how they want to play it. That's how they want to play it, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Which I mean, I feel like in a in a way where like Stoney's kind of like moment that pushes her over is the police brutality and the injustice. I feel like I feel like Frankie's is interesting too because you know, she's someone that was trying to like rise above her circumstances. She got this job, she's been working there, work like she's like you know, kind of like playing the part and trying to build a better life for herself and get something out of it, and she does everything right and still gets fucked over. So I can kind of see like where the radicalization came from.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

You know, that would definitely set me off just a little bit, just a little bit. I could I can see what she means. I also forgot to add Stony had to bust it open for her old boss, trying to get money for her brother before the whole death situation. So that's even more angered behind it. And she ripped that check the fuck up. She never cashed that check. And that man is still trying to balance his checkbook. He's still trying to balance his checkbook.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

To this day, to this day.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

Well, that was old ass because it was a type that deal with that. He was balancing his shit every week.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Well, right. Well, because the thing is, her brother tells her, like, oh, you know, we can't afford it or whatever. Um, and then like, you know, immediately after that, she goes and fucks this old nasty old man to get some money. And then when she brings the money back, he's like, Okay, well, you know, I actually just didn't get in. And she's like, you know what?

SPEAKER_03 15:26

Which he did, he just hid the letters. She found it after he died.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Yeah. So it's just like he he he he kept he kept lying about the reason just to avoid going. Meanwhile, she's out here hooking.

SPEAKER_03 15:39

Just because he he didn't want to be perceived as a college boy. He wants to be pretending to be like that.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

I know the it's kind and it adds to the tragedy, I think, the fact that like she she's trying so hard to provide like a better future for her brother who doesn't like seem to really want it. Um and then meanwhile, like she could I guess she I mean even after he died, you know, she could have had a better future for herself and she still didn't get it. I think it's uh I think that that's I think what's so uh heavy about the story is that in some ways, like, all four of these women could have had happy endings and all four of them were denied of it.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

I think that is what's so sad, and they all kind of come kind of close, it's like because they they do almost get away with it, which we'll get into the major plot beats. I do want to introduce T T who's kind of like you know, the shyer one, the one who's kind of like, oh, you know, a little nervous and scared the whole time. And her motivation is that she doesn't get child care one day, so she brings her son to work with them to clean, and he gets into some bleach channel. That's the end of that. CPS is CPS is like, uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

I know, which is like it's like, damn, y'all, y'all were click, y'all were quick to take that child, but there's some other kids getting a lot worse, and they're they're staying though.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

Right? One time, one one thing of bleach. But that kid could have decided he was thirsty. He went right for some bleach.

unknown 17:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

He could have won his.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

Yeah, I mean it I mean it was kind of crazy and reckless, but still. I was like, I was like, I was like, damn, first offense, and they snatching him up.

unknown 17:32

Right?

SPEAKER_03 17:34

We're letting kids drink bleach. Nothing happened to that. Right, no.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

That's saying CPS wasn't involved that day.

SPEAKER_03 17:42

Talking on productions and shit.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Yeah, and I and I mean T T is very much like the one who's like really just in for the ride the entire time. Like, she like at no point is she having a good time with the slice.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

She knows she is stressed out the whole time. You can see her face.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

Yeah, like she she's the one who's struggling the most with it. Um which I mean, I I I think it makes sense. I think you kind of and I think that Kimberly does a great job at kind of portraying the duality of like someone who is like who's so desperate to get her child back and to provide that life for her child that she'll engage in this really dangerous activity. But then at the same time, there's the conflict of like, oh my god, I'm in this extremely dangerous situation that could separate me from my child permanently. Um so I I f yeah, I found her character really interesting, even if she maybe didn't necessarily get to have as much of a screen presence as the other three women.

SPEAKER_03 18:51

Like mix-up of personalities of the four. Not that the other three were all the same, but it was like they were though they were three bad bitches, and TT was kind of just like, you know, a medium bad bitch, if you will.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yeah. She was on her way. She was on her way.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

Right, she was on her way, and also allowed for some development, which because it in the major heist in the last one, they they they used TT her roles kind of like to be the plant inside. So she went from the the first heist they pull off, she she freaking bailed on them, took the bus out. So then in the end, they are like, okay, you just stay there with the crowd, pretend to be a hostage, do some crowd control. One guy tries to be a hero and she she grabs a gun from his ass. She claps his ass. So there's no narrative building with TT.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Right. Yeah, no, absolutely. And and yeah, by the time they do their their final heist, which we'll get into it, does not necessarily become a successful heist. Um, you know, she she's she's she's all in it. She's all in it. So she definitely does get her development, she gets her arc. Um, all of them do. I felt like all of them, even though their arcs were tragic, all of them did have pretty fantastic character arcs, in my opinion. Um I really didn't finish the movie feeling disappointed at all with anybody.

SPEAKER_03 20:08

No, I think it was good closure, wrapped everything up. And you know, I love to complain about our runtime, but I think this was a little, I think it was nice. Everything got wrapped up neatly. Although I felt there was a problem, but y'all wanted to give Stony a whole other movie. Inside this movie. Right. I think they just wanted to have the sex scene with Blair Underwood. That storyline didn't need to be as long, but I'm not saying I didn't appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

You know, what I kind of thought about it because I I saw a Reddit thread, and I think you and I were looking at the same Reddit threads. There was someone that said that they like wish that um Stony's romance like arc wasn't like her that storyline wasn't involved so they could have had more time for the other characters. But what I kind of like in it, and it kind of uh harkens back to what I was saying earlier about how she was trying to give her brother a better life and she couldn't. And like I feel like when she's with um Blair Underwood's character Keith, um she kind of once again, like she kind of gets exposed to and sees like what her life could potentially be, like under different circumstances. Like, you know, she could be with him, she could be living this really she could be living the high life, you know, they could be really happy and in a better, you know, in a better finances. That's that thing, yeah. Like that's saying I and I feel like that adds like even more so to the tragedy that she doesn't get that happy ending that she could have had, you know. So I I actually really appreciated her kind of side plot with uh Blair Underwood's character.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

I definitely appreciated it. I was just like, oh, this is this is a lot. But it definitely because I went at the game was like, oh, you know, it's an equal for leading ladies, but which it is, but it's kind of stuff Stony and Jada are the main characters, you know? Like it was that storyline that solidified it for me, like, oh, this is Stony and Jada's movie. Right. She'll be getting the lead actress or nominee if this was getting Oscars. Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:59

Right, that's Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

Well off.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Well, I was just gonna say, yeah, definitely I agree that between the storyline with her brother and the storyline with the love, you know, the romance uh with Keith, um, definitely she gets a little bit more than the other girls, so to speak.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

And then we get Cleopatra, Cleo Simps, who is the common bitch. The free spirit. And the character. She is a bitch with a gun. She's a bitch with a gun. Which is her quote from herself. And she's the only character of the four who didn't need a tragic backstory motivation to rob debate Cleo. Yeah. Cleo seeded something to do for real. Cleo's she she was about it anyway. Which I just love her zest for life. Cleo's definitely the comic relief, but also just a real character. Also very visible queer representation in 1996. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

Yeah, I love and that's the thing is I love that for Cleo, you know, she's like a very proud queer woman. There's like never. There's never any I what I like is there's never any point where she like there's no storyline of her feeling shame about her queerness. There's no storyline, you know, we don't get any like unaccepting family members. Like the people in her, like all of her friends, the people in her commute, like literally, like, I don't think there's a single character in this movie that says anything like negative about her being with a woman.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

The boss called her a power ranger or something, kept calling her a man and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Oh, he called Oh, he called he called her a mighty morph and power ranger.

SPEAKER_03 23:37

He kept saying, ladies and gentlemen, no, they were all ladies in there. But aside from Luca's rude ass, who they do kill him in the end, so he had a comment.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Yeah, well, he he was dragging everybody though. And uh he had a reckless mouth, but also Cleo don't give a fuck. She's like, oh fuck you, Luther. Um but that thing, yeah, no, I like the fact that she was like, she was just so unashamed of her identity, and it was it was nice because especially in an older movie like this, 100% I can see them throwing in a scene where her grandma's giving her a dirty look or something.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

You know, Cleo got supposed to whip you, huh? Yeah, no, for sure. It's just so casually embedded and Queen of Tiva played the fuck out of that, bro.

SPEAKER_02 24:22

Oh, she did.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

And apparently when she auditioned, she just told them in the room, Oh, I am this bitch. Give me the wrong.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Which I believe.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

I mean I believe. That thing, yeah. I mean, she and it's it's crazy to me, like how quickly in a single scene, too, like how quickly, like tonally she can change from like comedic to very like angry and pissed off to in the zone to like emotional. Like the range of emotions that you can see Cleo go through in any given scene was like insane to watch uh Queen Lativa pull off as an actor.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Right. No, she definitely has a lot of rage.

SPEAKER_00 25:01

Yeah. And I think even though Cleo doesn't necessarily, like we said, she doesn't necessarily get that whole like her own like little storyline of like, oh, this is a reason why she's doing this and whatnot. I still find her to be a really comp like a really complex character. Um, I think watching her dynamic with her friends because she kind of is in a lot of ways the leader. Um and she has like these moments of conflict with her friends that are always resolved, but like you kind of still see them. Um you see, I think I think her story overall is very tragic. Um one scene in particular, I think, was like she had that interaction with Stone Stoney where Sony trying to be like, you know, we need to think about our future. And like that, this is the moment where I got worried for her when she's basically talking, like, I'm not thinking about five years in the future, I don't have a future. Um I was like, oh no, they're gonna just that's it. I was like, they're gonna do some sad shit with Cleo. I already know it. Um but yeah, she's a better character.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

Cleo's gonna die or someone's in a day.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Little did you know that's what that's what gagged me is I I I thought one person was like from the very beginning, I was like, one of them's gonna die. And then at that moment, I was like, oh, Cleo, it's gonna be Cleo. Um, but they decided to gag me anyway. Um Cleo is a tragic character to me in this in the sense that she's one of those characters where she is clearly a product and a victim of her circumstances. Like she like you like she's just like someone who did not get Dell a fair deck in life, and this is where it ended up.

SPEAKER_03 26:46

Poor Cleo. Yeah, we don't get much backstory either. It's kind of just like Cleo's been trapping, turned up in this garage with her girlfriend. It's kind of us against the world.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:57

But she but she gets shit the fuck done in the movies because they make these robberies off. So pretty much everyone gets their roles. We know Frankie used to work at the bank, she knows the inside job. Stony is about that life. Stony and TG, they're no more, you know, they're the talkers, they're the sweet charmers. So, you know, they're gonna go case the bank. Well, I think Frankie and you know Cleo, they're the muscle. They're about it. But you know, Frankie's also a the strategist a bit. But they pull off of the first robbery, but it's not that much money. They waste it blow it in a couple of weeks, and then they're back to square one.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

Yeah. Like basically, it's time we escalate and upgrade a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 27:41

And now the block is hot. The cop who killed Frankie not Frankie, the cop who killed um Jayna's brother is going up after them. He starts to piece it together. Because he knows Frankie has a connection to the earlier robbery, Cleo has a past, and Stony, you know, has her brother. So he started to piece them all together from this neighborhood with his nosy ass. So the block is getting hot, but they still go for the next robbery. And they pull this shit off, a good one, a big one. T Temps up, they driving shit up in the car. Well, is that the last one?

SPEAKER_00 28:14

I think that's the one. No, that no, that was that was that that that that was this one. That was this one where Cleo like comes like it because basically, like, as they're kind of pulling off the heist, they're about to make their exit. Um, and Clio's waiting for them with the getaway car outside. And basically, unlucky coincidence, there's a drunk, you know, turned up homeless man outside going doing a lot. So the cops show up to arrest him, and then like literally as they're about to run out the door, they realize they're like, oh shit, there's like a cop right out front waiting for us. Um and then and then before that even has to become a problem to be resolved, suddenly Cleo just comes busting, like she drives the whole fucking getaway car through the entrance of the bank, just busting through, like, get in, bitches.

SPEAKER_03 28:57

We were cackling the whole time.

SPEAKER_00 28:59

We were gagged. We were gagged. I did feel bad though when they backed up and then hit that wall, and like apparently there's a hibachi restaurant like in the next room over. And this this man that's working the grill, he gets flung back and lands on his back on the grill. I was like, oh no. I was like, God save this man, God save this man. Cause he he had nothing to do with none of it.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

Right, no scallops on that grill, just his back. At least he had that shirt on. At least he had his little you know, chef apron.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

I know, and he he kind of like rolled off of it, but I was like, oh, that burnt his back. I just know he's got burnt, he's gonna have to go to the hospital.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

I know them hibachi girls be high, they got all that oil chuck.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Uh I hope he has insurance.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Maybe he moved so quick, he just went over.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Ah, I hope he has insurance. I hope he has insurance.

SPEAKER_03 29:45

We better you better bring up Cleo's ass. Because if they get away with that robbery, and they get a good chunk of change, about like 80, 90,000 each, they end up with enough money to get out of the city, figure something out, especially back then. But that was their plan. Yeah. And you know, they gotta wait for TT to get her kid back from CPS, and they don't want to hide it in their house. Because they know that's where she's gonna look. So they hide it at work in the air van. Which come to find out, Luther's scamming ass, the rude ass boss, he finds the money. So this causes up the panic and pretty much the final catalyst of the plot, because now they're freaking the fuck out. So now they're gonna rob another bank. And instead of planning to do one, they're just like, fuck it, we're gonna rob federal bank, which is where Stoney's man works.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

And it's the big one.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

And it's the big one. And maybe that is where we reach our climax.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

Well, yeah, well, because I mean first they got what I mean, first they go in and and kill Luther. Um in front of his horse.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

Oh yes, oh yes. They do kill Luther. They regroup some coins, but nowhere near all the money.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

Yeah, one thing, yeah. They track Luther down. Um, he's with some hooker. Uh, he's been he's been buying all kinds of expensive shit with that money. He he already went on shopping spree. That thing, yeah. He's buying all kinds of nice things. Um, and and the funny thing is because this is like TT, uh, this is TT, Cleo, and Frankie doing this while frickin' Stony is on her own little side quest. Oh, okay. Going to some fancy black tie event with with uh Keith.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

Uh and having and having like a second-hand embarrassment when they had Jada show up in that Chinese pajama set.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

I mean, I thought it was cute, but I was like, that's that I he told you black tie. He told you black tie. I think she had her pretty that's saying, yeah, she that thing, yes. Yeah, she had her pretty woman moment where he went and got her a nice gown and and and somehow got her hair done. Uh it looked like it was dark outside, so it was later at night. Um I don't know where she went and got her hair done in time to go to this event, but that's what they did. Um and then they proceeded to have like the most sensual love scene we've ever seen in a film. It felt like a damn music video.

SPEAKER_03 32:09

Yeah, that love scene was something. With the music and all. The soundtrack to this movie was great, by the way. Very accurate sound scene and all. Very fun RB kind of rap feel.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 32:22

That was probably one of the most sensual sections I've never seen in the movie. The movie takes you through a lot. You're gonna cackle, you're gonna cry, you're gonna be turned up by the action sequences, you're gonna be turned down by that one scene with Blair Underwood and Jaida wrote their body oils and everything.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

You're gonna laugh at Cleo's shenanigans.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

Yeah, I know. There's one time where after they pull off the first heist, Cleo just turned up in the back dancing and celebrating. The girl's arguing about something to the point where Cleo shoots a shot up in the air. Sent off the gun, they're all sitting there silent. And then Tony get up like Cleo, sit your ass down.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

I love just like the entire time of her just like well, they're kind of like talking and everything, and she just dancing in the background with the gun it, waving it around.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

She was in her life. She was a bitch with a gun in that moment, too.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

As she should, as she should. I mean, honestly, I mean, if you pull off a heist out successfully like that, you you gotta you gotta celebrate. You gotta celebrate.

SPEAKER_03 33:19

Right, before the anxiety kicks in, cuz now you gotta look over your shoulder every day. Now you gotta look over your shoulder every damn day. But you know, they're pulling off the final heist, and then we got the first casualty when a random security guard who's not even in it, so that same white policeman who killed Stony Brother, he's trying to have his moment. He wants to get a Nobel Peace Prize or something. He's gonna single-handedly fix the LA race riots. He's trying to negotiate peace and talk them down and shit. But this random security guard comes in and shoots TT. So I know we get our first cause of T.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Well, I think because I literally we were watching, cause like I think, because yeah, they were having the negotiation scene, like the you know, the the cop was trying to talk them out of it and everything, and they like everything was kind of calming down, and then this security guard, yeah, he just pops out of fucking nowhere to shoot TT and then and then next thing you know, it's a big shot. Yeah, and I like the second he popped out and shot, like I literally said, Who the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_03 34:20

And it was literally like on Grand Theft Auto when you like do something in a mission, then it goes from no red circles to 18 red circles shooting at you.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

What the fuck turns in a second? It's literally that moment where you think everything's good and then suddenly your health bar starts getting done. You're like, who's shooting me?

SPEAKER_03 34:37

And yeah, we get a full-on shootout. And then it's not looking good for the girls. It is not looking for good for the girls. Alright. Sunsets for T.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

T's death was like that was hard to watch. That was hard. I was like, because like I'm sitting here like, oh my god. And I was like, of course, of course, the per the person who gets who gets a fatal hit in the fucking shootout is the is the mother. I was like, I was like, that baby, I was like, she has a baby at home. I was like, no, damn. I mean he wasn't at home, but oh well he was in he was in productive care, but still, like she was but she was like about to get her baby back. I was like, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_03 35:23

It was it was it was looking good. Things were looking up.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Yeah. So that that was horrible. That was so horrible. And I think just the fact too that like I mean, uh like we love them all, but like just the fact that I think she was like the closest to an innocent one in all of this. I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

You know, with her, it was definitely unfortunate circumstances. It was like, you wouldn't even want to do this, girl. You wouldn't even want to do this for real.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

That's saying, like, she was kind of like the one more than anyone who kind of got roped into it. I was like, oh, this is this is very tragic. This is very tragic.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

Which I should have seen coming, they would have had her be the first to go. Since they killed off the brothers, innocent. This director was hopeful and no punches. Which then leads us to Creo. She gets into a tunnel, but then they corner her essentially with two helicopters on both sides. She does nowhere to go. She's realizing the gig is up, so she gives Stony and Frankie the money. She tells them to run one way, she's gonna figure something out. They're pleading with her, like, no, no, we can do it, and then they're like, she's like, no, we gotta split up. I know what this is. So they take off on it.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

When it's hard because she even tells them, like, I'm gonna catch up with you guys later, and um and like the the way that they like kiss her goodbye and everything, I'm like, oh, everybody knows, like it's like we're not seeing each other again, it's over.

SPEAKER_03 36:48

You know, that it was definitely a heartfelt goodbye. Like they were just saying, like, maybe there's a small one percent chance, but no, even Cleo knew it was it was time. Yeah, so she drives her car right into the helicopter and trying to hit it. It narrowly not too off in time, but she drives pretty much into a standoff and gets surrounded by the cops, quite literally. I know, and then like the scenes of the movie shoots they asses up and gets shot up. I know, like to that sad ass song.

SPEAKER_00 37:25

I know, like what like right, like the moment before she gets out of the car when she's like whitened up for the last time and you can see her tearing up and everything, I'm like, oh no. I'm like, I was like, I was like, I was like, Cleo, like you can't just let them take you alive. I mean, I I I was like, I guess you I guess you'd rather I guess you'd rather die than let them take you alive, but damn girl.

SPEAKER_03 37:48

Yeah, Lori Perry up against the wind.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

I know it was their day that that was that was hard too. Every death scene was hard, but like I was like, oh and I I hate I hated it too because every fucking time the cops were shooting somebody up, it was never like a pistol or a glock, it was always fucking like machine guns and shit. So bitches were just getting lit up full of holes.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

They were getting lit up. And I feel like with Cleo's death, especially there was a lot of build up to it, like the drive up, the shoot and her being in the car, thinking like, oh, it's over.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Right. Well, I think you knew it was coming for so long, and it just made the dread of it build. I feel like TT was like such a like like out of nowhere gag versus like Cleo, there was it was there, you you just felt the dread building up for so long.

SPEAKER_03 38:35

Versus the next one is kind of anticlimatic, but after Cleo, they find Frankie's ass. Now how would you react when I'm playing it to your face? What's the protocol? Why you ain't follow protocol? Yeah, you low call back, but she then turns and gets shot up right in front of Stony, who's on the bus with a bunch of tourists going to Mexico.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

Yeah. And Stony's the only one that survives and gets away, which like I mean, with all the trauma she's living with, I don't know if that was a blessing or a curse to get to be the survivor of this.

SPEAKER_03 39:18

Right. She lost her parents, her brother, and her three best friends.

SPEAKER_00 39:22

Yeah, like literally that's saying she lost her chance with her with her love and whatnot. Like, literally everything is taken from this woman. She could never return to the United States.

SPEAKER_03 39:37

I like to think she found a nice little life down there.

SPEAKER_00 39:40

I'm about to say, honestly, like, because this was in '96, with with the direction the United States would go into this day, she probably it was good that she got out.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

You found a little Mexican man there. Got a little job at a stand or something, a little store. Or teaching English or something.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

I would like to believe that. I would like to believe that. She had some cool culture. Well, once she once she gets to Mexico, we get a scene of her, like, she's kind of in her hotel room. She has the dress that uh Keith bought for her, and she kind of just like is on the bed with the money and everything, and we kind of get like her memories with her friends and everything, and it's kind of like a it's kind of like a compilation of the more joyful moments throughout the movie, the moments of friendship and everything. And that just makes it even sadder because I'm like, oh my god. Yeah, oh my god. That that scene of them up on the roof to me, it's just so even though I live they were just chilling. Yeah, they were just friends, they were just like friends, and it like just shows the chemistry between these women so well. And like, I don't know. To me, it's like one of those scenes that's just so iconic in a movie, you know. Like, like I feel like the them up on the roof and everything, like that's like the shot of the movie to me, you know.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

Um tackling shooting the shit. You know how it was improv when um Frankie was just like, you look like sugar bear to Queen of the Yeah. Oh really? Yeah, yeah. And see, that's the kind of that's best.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

That's the kind of shit though that makes it just feel so real, and it makes it so sad because it's like Jada Stoney said that.

SPEAKER_03 41:12

Would that sound like something Jada would say?

SPEAKER_00 41:16

Right. And it's like I don't know. It just it's so that's it. I still haven't shook this damn movie yet 24 hours later because it like I was like, damn, this is sad.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

And you accuse me of setting you up like that white woman that made watch precious on Instagram.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

Well, I mean, I d definitely I was I was absolutely not prepared for what we were gonna be watching. I I really was not prepared for nor was I, nor was I nothing, because like I mean I like I'm glad we watched. Pretty much, yeah. I thought it was gonna be like a comedy like crime heist movie or something. Like, I don't know. Um, but like yeah, it's like I'm glad we watched it, but I I almost wish there was another week for Black History Month for us to end on a like a more positive, like something, something a little more joyful and not so sad.

SPEAKER_03 42:12

Well maybe we should we should have said black magic for last. We should have said black magic for last.

SPEAKER_00 42:19

Without that. Possibly, possibly. Possibly, possibly. Oh my gosh. Oh, that would have been cute. That would have been cute. Not them shooting some fake guns in the air and bitches screaming. Well, that they they had a routine with guns, didn't they?

SPEAKER_03 42:40

I think so. At least some army vest or something. Oh yeah, I think it was like a military.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

He's already armed in dangerous at any given moment. Any given moment. Um but yeah, I mean, overall, I've kind of gone over the plot, like like what we're I mean, I guess we kind of already discussed our our feelings on the movie. I mean, overall, I think we both agree that like, you know, great story, great writing, great, you know, and what I liked about this movie is and what I didn't get too when I kind of like looked up some of the reviews and everything of this movie, both from critics as well as just from bitches talking shit on left. Um, when I looked up some of the reviews, I saw people saying, like, oh, just cliche predictable plot and everything, you know, just a regular heist movie. And to me, I didn't see and I didn't really get that because like for me, and maybe it's maybe I'm not that familiar with the genre because I don't necessarily watch a lot of heist movies and crime dramas and stuff. But like to me, I feel like whenever I have seen like a movie like this, like a heist movie, um, I feel like it's always like this very over the top, like these people that like the people doing the heist are like these crazy, like, savant, like super geniuses that are doing all this crazy stuff. And like the And like they're always using this this like super like high budget high tech technology to pull off these elaborate heists and stuff. This to me felt very different with this these like just four women who kind of in a lot of ways came into it having no fucking clue what they're doing. Um and just kind of like going and and just like going for it, you know, and just you know, they don't have all the high-tech technology and stuff, they're just robbing banks with what they got.

SPEAKER_03 44:23

Right? And I think it's you know the plot is them robbing banks, it's so character-driven in a way that like the heist movies are not yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

That's like I feel like a lot of heist movies are about the action sequences, about the gag and like and I don't know, like this just felt so different to me. So I really did not understand those critiques of the movie. I didn't agree at all.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

That's random to me, but I feel like they feel like maybe had like a bit of a rated R, kind of tins that people really weren't focused on. And then also starring not you know, not only just four black people, but for black women. They weren't even sure like a lot of distributors like in people turned this movie down because they weren't sure that like the male audience would go out to see it.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

Right. And that's a thing too, is like usually like heist movies, action movies, and stuff, it's so it's so male dominated. Um that yeah, that's another. I mean, I'm glad you got that extra because I didn't even think about that. The fact that like literally this cast for this kind like genre of movie, like I can't think of any other example where we've seen this before or after.

SPEAKER_03 45:30

Well, besides Ocean's Weak Ass 8.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

Not Ocean's Weak Ass 8.

SPEAKER_03 45:35

I mean the there's the heat with Sandra Billick and Melissa McCarthy, but that's just a straight-up comedy.

SPEAKER_00 45:40

Right, yeah. And and once again, just like Spring Breakers, Spring Breakers. Yeah, I guess. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

I I haven't even seen it, I'm just joking. But I mean, I've I saw one of them with the gun in the movie.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

I don't know if they shot it or not, but they had a gun though. They had a gun.

SPEAKER_03 46:00

Is Selena Gomez the Cleo? Or is she the French?

SPEAKER_00 46:02

Oh, I don't remember. I don't remember. I feel like I saw, I feel like I've only seen bits and pieces of that movie. Uh all I remember are is uh James Franco and his tragic Corn Rose.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

Oh god. But some interesting tidbits about the casting and all. As per usual, a movie in the 90s, they cast it around Jay the Pinkinsmith, because she was Jay the Pinkinsmith.

SPEAKER_00 46:25

She was that girl. She was that girl. Well, like and like all four of these women that thing about all like honestly, all four of these women were either like on the brink of like kind of their commercial breakthrough, or they were like in the peak of it, you know. Like they like they really they really got some stars. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 46:51

And Vivek just on Independence Day, but it hadn't come out yet, but there was a lot of buzz around it. So she was kind of having on the precipice of her stuff. Creative was just starting to get into acting from her um music scene and doing that crossover. Which is so wild because as a kid, I just mainly knew her as an act. When I found out she did music too, I was like, what?

SPEAKER_00 47:11

Right, that's what and the thing is, is like part of like what gagged me and had me so I I was so impressed with her acting in this movie because like all I had ever seen her in it was like shit like last holiday or whatever. Like I I had just seen her in kind of like her very like just like her very kind of like silly like comedy movies and stuff like that. So like that's like how what I knew of her as an actress, you know. Like to to watch her play such a complex character and to do it so well, like I was like, damn. I was like, she didn't get an Oscar for this, I don't even have a nomination.

SPEAKER_03 47:43

Right. Yeah, I know. The they definitely snubbed this, they were not taking it serious. I don't know if it's an R-rating or the demographic or what.

SPEAKER_00 47:51

Probably a mix of everything.

SPEAKER_03 47:54

But if a queen about this shit, and then she really wanted the role. She called them up on the phone, was like, I'm this bitch. I know this bitch. This bitch is me. And then they were like, you know what, you're right, you're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Right. That's what I'm saying. You could tell, you could tell that you could tell, because I think sometimes like you see actors that are kind of just doing, like, kind of just doing the job, you know, just playing the role, getting their check and everything. But you see some actors who like they really care about the character they're playing. And I felt I like really felt that with Queen Latifah and this character, like it felt like she really was taking it seriously. She really like wanted to bring this character's story to life and like give it and kind of give it that moment on screen and everything like that. Like you could tell she really cared.

SPEAKER_03 48:40

Yeah, she seemed like a hard work. She wasn't about to have to phone anything in with all she succeeded across industry. Like she's never given me phone to then. So I I I believe that you know what I mean. Wait, what were you gonna ask me?

SPEAKER_00 48:56

Well, I was just gonna say, Quinn Latifa, I didn't know this until I was like looking some stuff up for this movie, but I didn't know that she released her debut album at only 19 years old. That's crazy to me. She's always been that bitch.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

Okay, Dana. Okay, Dana.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

Yeah, and the fact that her and the fact that her the fact that her debut album was called She's 19 years old. This is her first album. She called it All Hail the Queen. I'm like, okay, you you are that bitch.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

I mean, that's her stage, name that's her stage, name.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

Yeah, well, and what's really cool is her debut album um in 2023, it was selected for preservation in the United States National Um Recording Registry by the Library of Congress. It has been deemed culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant, and I believe it achieves all three.

SPEAKER_03 49:41

Right, right. Just like our episode about making a motto with Yolanda Hadid.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

That should be preserved.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

If that's what the episode that got us nominated for something that I'll take it.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

I mean, I don't know if I see the vision, but I'll take it.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

Right. So I actually have a question. If you have to guess which five 90s man almost played Blair Underwoods role, who who would you guess?

SPEAKER_00 50:04

Oh was it TJ? I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_03 50:10

You know, damn probably wasn't bugs, buddy.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

That's it. We we couldn't have two queens on the cast. Oh my god. Um wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. Let me let me think for a second. Let me think for a second.

SPEAKER_03 50:27

I I I can give a little hit, but I might give it away.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Okay, you wait, okay, wait, give me the hit. Give me the hit.

SPEAKER_03 50:34

His son is just as fine as him. Well, he was. His son is finer.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

His son. Okay, wait, his son is finer than him. And he was bit he was big in the 90s.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

Yeah, girl. Wait. Wait. Do do do do do do. Cuba good?

SPEAKER_03 50:59

Yeah, girl. Oh, yo, you got it, you got it. I got it. You know, Cuba Good Cuba Gooding Jr. was um he was considered for the Blair Underwood like lead male part. Which I could see in it. I could see him in it. I don't know if he would give it in the sex scene as much as Blair. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

I don't know. I feel like Blair just has that factor. He's got that X factor, like Maxine.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

Okay, Maxine. I'm crying that I got that right. Getting some accolades in his acting.

SPEAKER_00 51:30

His son being finer than him really to give it away.

SPEAKER_03 51:33

Wow. I mean, it still took you a minute, too. It still took you a minute too.

SPEAKER_00 51:36

Yeah, I had to think about it. I was like, who's got a fine ass son? I was like, Mason. Cuba.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

Cuba.

SPEAKER_00 51:46

Well, his son is fine. Even even if he is a Zionist apologist, allegedly.

SPEAKER_03 51:52

And his and Cuba did a great job as OJ.

SPEAKER_00 51:55

He did do a great job in that role. That was that that that show was good as hell.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

You know, everyone had a fun time with this role playing on this movie. So the movie, you know, had a slow impact, but still did some things. Well, I don't think it was slow. I don't think it was like a slow ride. I think they were doing great from the box office right away, which surprised people, but definitely probably exceeded expectations of uh, you know, a nine million budget and lots of people turning the movie down. Right. It was New Line Cinema's highest grossing film in 1996, so they did something right. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 52:30

I don't know. I just like one in New Line Cinema, they they really they really like to do that shit too, because I remember um they were like because they originally got like New Line Cinema, they originally kind of had their breakthrough like as a as a company, was what when they did a nightmare on Elm Street, which they were the only uh bitches that wanted to do that movie too. So I guess I I guess I like to have some faith. Um Yeah, and I honestly I love when a project like this just like proves everyone wrong, like when they like manage to get like get it off the ground and then it becomes a huge success.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

Right, definitely like I told you bitches. I know the directors be cackling after that. Like I told you I asked this, I told you I asked this.

SPEAKER_00 53:12

Right. Well, and it's like people always like underestimate want to underestimate like that. It's like, no, there's an audience for this.

SPEAKER_03 53:23

But they always want to make a same damn movie or do a reboot. Speaking of reboots, there's always talks about rebooting this, and even at one point people have asked our I don't know about accused, or Issa Right actually signed on to it, but they mentioned that she was involved with a potential reboot. But I don't know if that's in the light of day. I think people Jada was definitely like, well, I'm not doing it without the rest of them. And obviously the characters are dead, so I think that's her saying I'm not doing this.

SPEAKER_00 53:46

So yeah, yeah. I don't think it'll happen.

SPEAKER_03 53:51

I think it needs to be left alone. Just make an original high story because it really is like it's the characters and the actresses that made it. It's a character-driven story at this point. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:00

So that's the that's the thing is it's one of those movies that was just done so because like literally watch it. Like there's not a thing I would change. Like, there's literally not a thing I can think of that I would change. So, like, I think when you when you nail it that perfectly, like, there's what would be the reason to reboot or redo or remake or like what would be the reason, you know?

SPEAKER_03 54:21

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

There's literally nowhere to go but down.

unknown 54:24

Right.

SPEAKER_03 54:24

If Issa Ray wanted to do a heist movie, she should have made Siza and Kiki Palmer be shooting people in that movie. Should have went a different direction. I don't know if Scizor has the range.

SPEAKER_00 54:34

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 54:35

Well, yeah, I mean I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 54:38

I don't know why I act like that was shady. That was just trip.

SPEAKER_03 54:41

Right, I don't I'm being nice. She could at most be the T T, but I feel like she would not she would be just not given what Kimberly Elise was given with the emotion. And even Kiki, I love Kiki, but um I thought that movie where she was playing the stud that was pimping people out, and it was not believable.

SPEAKER_00 54:59

The hell movie was that? I didn't see that movie. And you know I love a stud.

SPEAKER_03 55:07

It's literally called Pip 2018. I watched this very recently with my friend because we she was talking about the what movie are you talking about? I had the same reaction as you. But to quite literally, I I had to go get Tubi and put it on because I was in disbelief.

SPEAKER_00 55:23

But yeah, well, I think I know I think I know what I'm gonna be watching after we finish this recording.

SPEAKER_03 55:28

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Oh, wait, no, actually, I gotta edit this, so no, I won't be watching it, but maybe another day.

SPEAKER_03 55:33

It is not a good film. But I it follows similar beats. It's it follows similar beats to set it off.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

Okay, not a good cloud.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

But you know what? If there was a set it off, if there was, if there was, I would put Kiki on the short list. I'd put Kiki on the short list.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Right. And I I would want a cameo being like one of the one of the one of the people that's told to get the fuck on the floor in the bank.

SPEAKER_03 55:58

I was about to say the only white characters were hostages in the banks and cops know.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

And I won't I'm I'm I'm not playing a cop, so I guess I'm gonna be a hostage in the bank.

SPEAKER_03 56:10

Oh, you don't you don't be the cop Vivica goes up to you? Not even gonna offer me a glass of water, sister.

SPEAKER_00 56:17

I would I I I would if she if she said exactly that line to me, I don't think I could take it seriously. Oh, you break character, you break character. I would I'd start cackling. And I and I and I know Vivica would be I know Vivica would be pissed. She'd be like, I she'd be like, I'll work with Tarantino, I don't need to do this shit.

SPEAKER_03 56:36

No, I think she'd cackle. I think she cackle.

SPEAKER_00 56:39

She might, she might. I don't I don't I don't know. You you saw how she you know you saw how she got into some of them dancers' asses on on Black Magic.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

Well they were a waste of their money.

SPEAKER_00 56:48

But yeah, no, I just yeah, if if for some reason they decide they want to remake this, I will gladly cameo as a as a as a bank hostage. I'll I'll even be the guy that wants to be a hero and get and get a gun in his face. Why not? See, and that's that's my thing. That's my thing. I've never understood, especially okay, so like I get wanting to be a hero like once it turns violent. Like if somebody gets shot, it's like, okay, somebody gotta step in and do something because this is getting out of control. But like most bank robberies, like normally the goal is not to actually shoot anybody, they just want to get the money and go. So I've never understood people that want to try to be a hero and that. I'm like, just let them take the money and go so nobody gets hurt.

SPEAKER_03 57:27

Like, why do you want to start something? They want to get interviewed on the local ass news.

SPEAKER_00 57:32

Uh that's okay. Like, I've never I've never said that I've never understood the be a hero mentality. Like, uh no.

SPEAKER_03 57:38

Well, maybe some bitches just stick they have on there. I don't know. If I was an A V SEO or something, I would do it. Because I think I'm I would train to be like if I was trained enough to be an A V CL, I could I could take it out a bitch with a gun, but I'm not an A V SEO, so I won't do that.

SPEAKER_00 57:50

Yeah, that's yeah, I just if it seems like there if if nobody's been harmed yet and it's like the the money's being loaded up, these girls are getting ready to leave. Well, I why why I gotta why do I have to jump up and now turn it into a shootout? You know, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 58:03

Right now, why am I in it?

SPEAKER_00 58:05

That's it. If if fucking if Queen Latifah comes up to me with in a wig and sunglasses talking about I'm a bitch with a gun, I'm gonna be like, okay, I'm hands-up.

SPEAKER_03 58:15

If they try to make an example out of me and pistol whip me in front of the rest of the bank, I will get mad. I will try to fuck it up.

SPEAKER_00 58:22

Not nothing.

SPEAKER_03 58:24

Why am I getting pistol whipped?

SPEAKER_00 58:25

You you didn't have to do me like that, Clea.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

I would be like, you don't have to do me like that, Clea. You could have pistol whipped one of these Caucasians.

SPEAKER_00 58:37

And if she went over and pistol up two Caucasians and said happy now, would you be happy?

SPEAKER_03 58:44

I think I I think I would just I think I'd keep my black ass shut in that moment. I think I've really smoked too much for a house for somebody who doesn't have the gun, you know?

SPEAKER_00 58:54

Not that two people that just got pistoled up scowling at you for the rest of the day while they're doing police interviews.

SPEAKER_03 59:01

I'd refuse to do those. I'd be trying to go home. Like, I'm I'm I'm over this.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

Oh no, they don't they don't they don't let you go home in that situation.

SPEAKER_03 59:08

You can't Well, because I because I was the host even after they got the robbers, I have to go talk to them.

SPEAKER_00 59:15

Oh yeah, no, that that's you know the and the funny thing is, um because that you know I'm the Frankie, I'm the bitch that has bank experience. Um that's the thing is like especially I mean I don't know as much for like the hostages, but especially for like the employees, like like the customer hostages, but especially for the employees, it's like once it's over, like you literally like you have to go and like you have to go be separated from everybody else and wait for the cops. Like you can't even talk to your coworkers, you have to wait to talk to the cops.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

No collusion of stories. We gotta, we gotta do it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 59:50

Basically, every employee has to be sequestered off. Nobody gets to talk to anybody, nobody gets to talk to the uh your coworkers, to your manager, the uh you don't get to call home to your family or anything. Like you do not speak to anybody until you talk to a police officer in that situation.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

Well, I'll be on my cell phone going live on TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

And when a cop snatches your phone from you.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:13

Well, I guess we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

But yeah, no, that's that that's how that goes down. That's how that goes down.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:24

Um but also summon off reboot, you know, like fingerprint technology and cameras have gotten too good.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

Yeah, that's the thing, is I don't know, because like at least nowadays, I kind of think it's crazy when I hear about a bank robbery, because I'm like, honestly, well, because first of all, like banks don't carry the amount. That's part of it too, is like maybe in the 90s it was different, but like a lot of banks, even the big ones, because there's not as much like cash flow and because people use cards and shit now, you know. People people use Apple Pay, they they got their tap to pay. Like, people just aren't carrying on cash like they used to. So with the demand and everything, like banks, like these individual branches, they're not like carrying really that much cash like uh in the whole building. Um, and like all of the the tellers and stuff themselves, they have pretty low drawer limits, so they're not carrying that much in their drawer. So, like, really like and because of like how unlikely it is that you'll actually get away with unarmed bank robbery these days, like you like it's like almost a guarantee that you're gonna get caught if you do. So it's like unl like I think the only way it would make sense is if it was an inside job, like what they thought Frankie was doing, like a bitch that knows like how to get the most money and then get the fuck out of here to Mexico or wherever. But yeah, no, like a bank robbery nowadays, you're gonna get caught, they're gonna know who the fuck did it. Like, really, the only thing you can do is like take that money and get to Mexico and hope that it's enough money to live luxuriously.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:55

Well, don't Mexico be doing the extradition now? So maybe.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:59

Oh, maybe. So you've got to go somewhere else now. That's the answer. I mean, it's it's really like I don't know. I I would say the message is if you're gonna do crime, don't do bank robberies. It's really not worth it. Find something else to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:16

That's the right thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:22

Oh, you don't want to get it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:24

Fraud is probably like I mean, you're still gonna get caught, but you probably don't have to go to Mexico right away if you're doing Wendy shit, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:32

Right. I feel like fraud it takes longer for them to catch you, so you get to live it up a little bit longer. And I mean and the thing is like, I mean, there are some people that get away with fraud for like years before it catches up to them, so versus like a bank robbery, they might have you like at an hour. They might have you in custody in an hour.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:49

I wonder if there's like old people to start doing fraud if it's don't work out. Like what they're gonna do, lock me up for my life. I wonder.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:56

I mean, yeah. I mean, if I if I hit like 90 or something and I'm still like I'm still breathing, uh like at this point I might as well just do fraud. It's kinda like it's kinda like um when people try to tell some 90-year-old bitch that's been smoking for for 80 years to stop smoking. It's like that's like at that point, like you're gonna tell this bitch to stop smoking and drinking liquor.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

Let her live. Let her live.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:22

That's that's like what's the point? What's the point?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:24

But we enjoyed set it off, and we hope you did too enjoy our recap of it. And if you have not watched the film, take yourself over to Pluto TV and watch it today. And if you are much classier than I, you probably have it on DVD or VHS.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:37

Oh DVDs.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:43

I bet you can play DVDs, but I don't I it might be only Blu-ray, actually. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

Uh yeah, I don't think it plays regular DVDs, but you know, just just hope that Cleo doesn't carjack you and throw your CDs and shit out the window.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:53

Oh, so she didn't love to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:55

Every time she stole a car, I immediately see throwing people's shit out the window. I'm like, girl, you're gonna ditch that car and it's gonna be a recovery for the other. You can't leave their shit in there for them when they get it back. Damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:07

Well, I don't think they'll get it back.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:10

Yeah, that they'll get the car. The car will be retrieved.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:14

I guess they were dead.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:17

Oh, really? You know what's funny is um when I was a PS4 girly, now I'm a PS5 girly, but when I was a PS4 girly, like I don't know why I assume the P I just assumed the PS4 could play like 4K, um, but it can't.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:34

So when I tr when I tried because I have a I have a 4K collection of like classic like slasher movies. Like I like and any of them that's been that thing, yeah. Any like classic slashers that have been remastered for 4K, I probably have it. Um I wanted to play when I'm uh and at one point I wanted to play that on my PlayStation 4 and I couldn't. It literally was like, bitch, what the fuck is this when I put the disc in?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:55

Listen, we don't have the processing power.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:57

That's an but now that I have a PlayStation 5, um, and please don't please don't take that as an invitation to rob my home. Um now that I have a PlayStation 5, I I can play 4K. I can play 4K.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:10

I think they're more likely to get robbed on the way to robbing your home.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:14

Well, you know, my mom is dramatic. Every time she comes over here, she she she she's always talking about, like, I'm not she she she's always talking about I don't really want to leave my car parked out there for too long.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:23

I'm like Oh now she's giving Candy Barber suck. That's giving Kim Kim talking about Candy's neighborhood. I heard this is a bad neighborhood.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:30

Literally, my mom act my mom acts like she knows like carjacked just pulling up to my to my apartment building, and it it is not like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:37

I heard she was clutching her purse real tight.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:40

She just likes she just likes to shade.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:43

Well, I mean the the the stories you tell about your neighborhood. I cla you know, I I clutch my purse. I clutch my tile fire.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:56

Well, I I've been I've been to your neighborhood where the elevators don't work whenever. I got my suitcase.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:02

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SPEAKER_00 1:06:19

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