On a Real Note

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A lot of RHOP, a little bit of RHONJ, the Tyla drama and Whitney Leavitt's rise to success.

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome back, Note Takers. This is Noah Aaron with the Honor Real Note podcast.

SPEAKER_02

And this is Aiden. I just saw Meredith Marks have a terrible DJ set.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, and and and and that's actually because usually you just say some crazy shit that's not even for real, but that that's for real. That's for real. You actually didn't do that. Now why are you acting like I'm such a liar? I don't think you're a liar. I just said that you like to you like to say things for a for a little gag, a little gag, but that was for real.

SPEAKER_02

I I do like to say things for a gag. But sometimes I say what I'm not. But no, this time I did indeed see Meredith Marks at her little DJ set. It was every bit as bad as I read it, I read it thread I saw that outlined it. But for me, the person in the thread, they paid some VIP ticket experience, like hundred of dollars, and they didn't even get their bump of Meredith Marks caviar. But me, I bought my tickets early and just paid, you know, the regular GA price. And I found out if you go upstairs, it's less crowded, you get a little nice little view. So I I was chilling for the price point, and I expected to be it to be Meredith being a mess. But if I paid the hundreds, I'd be upset. I'd be upset, yes.

SPEAKER_00

Did you witness anybody getting a bump of their Meredith Marks ketamine?

SPEAKER_02

You know, I I can't say that I experienced that. I didn't see Georgia from the show. I believe that they were filming season two of Next Gen NYC because I walked into the the little sign that said truly original. But they were calling it untitled New York Project, which is just like, why continue using a code name if the show was on season two? But like, what else would they be filming? I didn't see anyone else. And I didn't even know I saw Georgia until the guy ahead of me was like, oh my god, that was Georgia. And I was like, Oh, that was Georgia.

SPEAKER_00

Like, okay, Georgia. Okay, well that's cute. Okay, we we got a little a little tee on the on the filming uh.

SPEAKER_02

But she did indeed knock over her little DJ laptop four minutes in, and a lot of it was just her shaking her hips rhythmically and turning up. And then she brought out her daughter, but I was like, is this her daughter or just some blonde girl? And then the girl played like 20 seconds of some song that sounded like a Tate McRae cut, like something Tate McRae would, you know, give back to the writers. And then she was like, give it up for Chloe, which I was like, okay, that is her daughter, because I know her name is Chloe, but she should have just she should have introduced me, like, oh, this is my daughter, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean, just the way you describe the whole thing, it's exactly what I would expect something like this to be.

SPEAKER_02

It wasn't a cash grab. If I got there close to the front, I could have grabbed some caviar she was throwing out, but I did not get any caviar now. Throw throwing out caviar is crazy to me. Right? It's a little cans. I'm like, she could have took somebody's eye out, but you know, she was real careful with the throw-in. And yeah, a little a little white boy would run over every so often, press buttons, and move shit around, and Meredith's looking in her life. I don't know. I guess as long as she had fun, right? Right. It was as every bit of camp as I expected, but um from the reviews I've seen, the VIP seems like a scam. If you're somehow listening to this, you have tickets for down the line in the tour. I know the New York show was relatively earlier on in the tour. You know, you're wondering. It's worth about$30. More if you have more disposable income than I. I don't know what how you get in down. If your husband is rich or something, you know, do you well?

SPEAKER_00

You know, I I hope I hope that those of you that want to see Meredith get to see Meredith, but just manage your expectations and manage your expectations for this episode because we're doing hot topicslash current events, and you know what? America's always on to something. America's always on some bullshit. So we're gonna be talking about some some silly ass topics today. But that's what we were kind of feeling. That's the vibe. You know, it's been a long time since we've done a hot topic slash current events episode. So I feel like this is long overdue, especially as we kind of come near the end of the year. Like, we might as well just throw some of this shit in, right? We might as well talk about this about what's going on. And I promise you, um, we are only bringing very like light and fun topics today. Like, we don't have anything that's gonna depress you, that's gonna make you be like, oh god, I hate I hate living here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we're not talking about Charlie Kirk or that guy who shot his his mom and dad. We're not doing that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we're not talking about anything. So no pal no politics today. Um, unless you consider talking about a Mormon bitch politics, which I mean I guess it could be. But uh, but all overall, we're keeping it light and fun today. So that that's our little that's our Christmas gift to you. That's our early Christmas gift to you.

SPEAKER_02

And we have an even special surprise for our little Christmas special next week. But you know, we'll get to that.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, we'll get to that. You better tune in next week. That's all I gotta say. Um, but yeah, let's start. Let's start the hot topics with what I've been enjoying very much this television season. I've been very much enjoying Potomac so far this season, The Real House with the Potomac. And I mean, there's been some things that have been irritating me, but overall, I feel like I'm having a good time watching it. You know, it's I feel like we're out of the dark ages a few seasons ago where I was dreading watching each episode. So that's good. That's progress.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's definitely been one of the better Potomac seasons of like, you know, the later few. I will say that. I've enjoying every watching, I'm enjoying the new cast members, things are meshing well, even though there's no big overarching story, it's kind of alternating between jumping Stacy and being unsuccessful, and jumping Angel and being successful because Angel is a terrible housewife, seems like a very sweet woman, gorgeous lady, terrible reality star. And it's just like, okay, you know, now it's like far enough like okay, this is just the season. I wish there was like an overarching gag or something, and I think it just reinforces that we we are missing the presence of our quarterback, Karen Huger, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and it seems like from what I saw, it seems like the season that like people are enjoying the season because what I saw is it looks like gradually um in the last few episodes, the viewership has been going up. So the season for a while was struggling to crack um 500,000, but it looks like these last few episodes actually did crack that. And it's but it's kind of gone up a little bit. So I feel like the viewers are liking it so far.

SPEAKER_02

That's good, especially because they're coming up on like the holidays and award season to start competing with. So it might be a little tougher. I think they're coming up on the end of the season because Andy was asking for reunion questions recently, so yeah, that's it. That means the ladies are about to be in New York.

SPEAKER_00

What I think the most recent episode that came out was like episode 11, and I think Potomac, including the three-part reunion, usually does like 19 or 20 episodes.

SPEAKER_01

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, so we're almost there because we have the Colorado trip, which will probably be two, three episodes. I don't know, the one like you know, gapway episode, and then a fucking finale event that probably some bullshit Astre throws and tries to sing it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think, and then we're probably gonna get some footage of when they picked up cameras after like Karen's release and and and Wendy's arrest and everything. So I forgot about that. They didn't pick up cameras. I don't know if that's just gonna be like maybe the second half of the season finale or if that's gonna be its own episode. I don't I don't know. We'll see. Between Karen and Wendy, that could be its own episode. Right. I'll say between like Karen and Wendy's stuff, interviewing them. I mean, and I know Andy's gonna interview at some point. I don't know like what that's gonna look like if that's gonna be its own episode. Like, I don't know. I just know we think. Maybe because like, yeah, because in the in the mid-season preview, that's what they showed was like Andy actually having like a full-on sit-down with Karen. Uh they could have that on the episode too.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm intrigued now that you they did bring cameras back up, so a lot could happen.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. One so you mentioned um, well, it seems like honestly, the first half of the season, while it has gone back and forth between Stacy and Angel, I do feel feel like Stacey has been more so the focus, and attacking her has been more so the focus. But based off the previews that we've seen coming up, it almost feels like it's gonna switch more towards they're gonna go after Angel more. Um which honestly at this point I'm fine with because I'm really the the Stacy stuff has been tired. Like, I don't know, like especially like Kiarna is just whatever. It seems like she's just determined, like Kiana's confusing to me because she like literally like pops off and yells and screams at Stacy every single time she sees her almost, and then she's confused, like, why Stacy like doesn't like her, and it's like, well, you you're mean to her every single time you see her. Like, why would she why would she keep it cute with you? And then also just like Giselle and Ashley, their like desperation to do this mean girl shit with Stacy is so annoying because like you have Ashley who like is just like point-blank, like lying about Stacy on camera and does not give a shit if it's like easily disproven. Like, pretty much every time she's like Stacy lied about this, and then you know, there's an explanation that, like, well, maybe Stacy didn't actually lie about this, or it's not what you're portraying it as, and she just doubles she just doubles.

SPEAKER_02

She doesn't owe you the truth, so it's like she could say what she wants.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so it's just whatever, but so there's that, and like you know, it seems like essentially all Ashley's like really had this entire season is just her bullshit with Stacy and then using her sister for some drama, uh family bullshit, and then like making her having her sister cry on camera about their daddy, about her daddy, sorry. Um, and then Giselle, like Giselle, it's been you know, Giselle's always been a mean girl, but like her thing with Stacy this year has been like a new low, if just like pathetic for me. Because like it's just like every little thing, like on their little girls' trip they did originally where she like intentionally left Stacy's name off of like everything while putting the other girls' names on things, and the bad breath stuff at the beginning of the season.

SPEAKER_02

Um I think Giselle's truly frazzled because like Candace, Monique, they were so easy to rage bait, even Mia like you know, Mia go turn up, and Angel's like I would have called it easy to rage bait, but Angel just fumble it. So Stacey's a tough cookie to crack, and you can tell Giselle's she sweating a little bit, she don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_00

One thing, yeah, because I mean like a few episodes ago at the GNA event, like Stacey showed up, was being kind and supporting Ashley and Giselle's GNA event, despite them being nasty to her this entire season. Um, she like kept it cute even as like Cookie and Kiana were trying to like turn it into some mess. And then she like was like, you know what, I'm just gonna leave. And then like Giselle like chased her to the elevator, and like Stacy had already pressed the L the button to like leave, and then Giselle like comes over and starts slamming the button, like you need to go. Like she's kicking her out. It's like you're not she was already leaving, like, why are you trying to kick her out? And then also just like her weird thing of like we can't trust Stacey around our children and our husbands. It's like what is that even about? Like, what do you mean you can't trust her around your husbands and children?

SPEAKER_02

First of all, right?

SPEAKER_00

Well, especially what was crazy to me, I I guess I guess with the husbands thing, it's like, okay, I guess like because of her allegedly being with Chris, but even that's like a reach. But then that's like, what do you mean we can't hear it at the time? Yeah, and she didn't even know Monique. Um, and then also, like, what do you mean by we can't trust her around our children? It's like, what do you think she's gonna like? What do you think she's gonna do?

SPEAKER_02

And just to turn around and have a family event two episodes later, she's she's there and all five. Like, you trying to say some shit. You tried to say some shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then even down to like the moment they mentioned Stacy was making the potato salad, I'm not eating Stacy's potato salad. It's like, okay, no, nobody said you had to. Nobody said you had to, Neck. We know you're about to. Right. Well, I mean, just my thing is I'm like, okay, Neck, we know that your diabetic ass is going straight to the desserts table. Like, we know. Oh, Giselle pissed you off this episode. She really did. She's really been agitated. Because the thing is, like, Giselle for a while, like for a while, she had kind of like I had kind of like gotten a little bit less irritated by her. Um, but now she's just pissing me off all over again.

SPEAKER_02

I bet we swapped positions because I'm just like taking Giselle at face value cackling. But I think because Daisy just rushes it off her shoulder. I'm just like, whatever. Although I was not, I was cackling when she was like, Oh, I heard he doesn't like the guys, pretending that like um Angel's man had beef with the Rast and she's like, okay, I just made that up. And I thought she was like, the way she immediately and the way Wendy cackled. Wendy was looking at her like, bitch, I know you lied. She likes to make shit up. Because I was believing her for a second too.

SPEAKER_00

Like, now who told you this, T? Where'd you get this from? I will say Giselle has been more transparent this season with her bullshit. Like, she's more so just like, yeah, this is what I'm doing. Right?

SPEAKER_02

The show's definitely, you know, breaking more of the fourth wall. It's definitely Giselle's. You can see a lot of like Giselle, you know, trying to coach up the new girls and you know get them to the swing of things.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know what they think jumping Angel will do. Do they think it's gonna like save the show? Are they trying to get her off for good? You know, make more time for Karen to get here. I feel like overall, this season might just be seen as like, oh, you remember when we jumped that girl to wait till Karen got back?

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, that's the thing, and that's that that's the angel of it all. Is Angel is just a hard one because I feel like, and I think what I realized about Kiara and Angel, and like what that bothers me about them, is that like when something upsets them or pisses them off or offends them, they like say nothing in the moment, and then they sit and like stew in it for a few days, and then they like get really mad, and then suddenly they're really mad, and it's like everybody else has moved on and they're pissed about it.

SPEAKER_02

Ryan and they want to not even directly confront the person or do a little dinner, but just like little snide comments like it was the same day. I was like, Angel is the worst at it, because it's always like she's crashing her online as we speak, probably. Right. In the last few days, I've seen her arguing everyone, everything. She apparently called Claudia Jordan about what people said on you know her uh podcast with Carlos King and Dustin. So it was a lot. She's reacting to everyone and everything, and after every scene, she goes to like a separate dinner to complain instead of saying something to them, call them up, right? It's housewives. Like, this is the one setting where you're allowed to you know crash out on somebody at a group event.

SPEAKER_00

I just feel like Angel, and I think I've said this before, but maybe even on TikTok. I feel like Angel just is not meant for the this isn't the right show for her, which is disappointing for me to say because I think if you remember, like before the season we were talking about the cast, the previews and everything, like in the premiere, like I was actually really excited Yeah, I was like based off what we knew of her and saw of her initially, I was really excited for Angel, and she's been a letdown for sure.

unknown

Right?

SPEAKER_02

For that make her seem so lit in the trailer with that one lit moment talking about I'm that motherfucker. That's where BR all season is crazy. I know that's I know they were I know they were screaming trying to find lit clips of Angel for the trailer with all this bullshit. I would have put a clip to her packing up her house and made it about that. Right. But I'm but I'm messy, so I know.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I I I sent it to you either today or yesterday, but they they tracked down the Airbnb that Angel was renting that she claimed wasn't an Airbnb. They tracked that down on the website. You you can you can rent the house.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Well, I do think like a lot of places like that, they'll probably list on multiple things. So they'll probably be on Airbnb if you want it for like seven days. But if you want it for Angel for filming per Purges out, and you want it for six months, maybe there's like another avenue. Because I'm sure you can probably get it cheaper than what Airbnb says.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm gonna give Angel the benefit of the doubt there. But I do think I do think there's credence to the claim. When she admitted she didn't know the end date and she didn't want to say it on camera, I was like, oh girl, you got the house to film in. But that shouldn't be a problem. It shouldn't be a storyline used against her. Like she got cast for a show. This is a job, she's working.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, I think part of the problem is I think while a lot of the other girls, especially the ones that have been there for a while, it seems like they're starting to feel very comfortable breaking the fourth wall. It almost feels like like when Angel's explaining it, it feels like she's trying not to, like, she's trying to avoid breaking the fourth wall. And that's like what's getting her in some mess. That's why she sounds ridiculous because she's trying so hard to get around that and explaining it, and I think it's like limiting like what she can really say and how she can like word it.

SPEAKER_02

And Angel, that's not your job, baby. That's product that's production job. Say what you feel. That's what I'll treat. If I was on reality TV, like I know I'm breaking the fourth wall, but you a lying bitch. Right. And that's what you leave the productions to fix.

SPEAKER_00

Well, my thing is if like if the other girls are gonna break the fourth wall, if someone, especially an OG that's been on there for a decade, is gonna say, like, oh, you you just rented that house for filming for the show. I'm like, okay, okay, well, we're talking about the show then. Okay, we're gonna talk about the show. And you bring up bullshit for the show while you lie about what you go out of your leg. Right? That's what I'm saying. It's like just go there. But I don't know. Angel's just not Angel's just I don't see it for Angel. Like, and that I feel like you and I, you and I are always really big advocates against one season wonders. Like, we're always like, no, give someone a sophomore season.

SPEAKER_02

But I just don't, I really I think especially if like I'm not saying NECA was the best housewike of all time, but if NECA got chopped after one season for three times better performance, at least.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Like Angels. Well, I just feel like at least at least with NECA, there was like an effort. I feel like she was trying. I feel like Angel's not even trying.

SPEAKER_02

Right. I think when what did NECA in was that lackluster reunion, even me had to be like, girl, Vince, do do something. Even her husband had to step in and be like, you gotta talk. He's like, girl, you want this job or not, bitch. We moved to Potomac, we bought this house.

SPEAKER_00

She was sitting there backstage talking about like I thought this was gonna be a chance for me to air out, and then let's like, well, girl, do you think like do you think you just like wait there for your like 10 minutes to speak uninterrupted? Like, you gotta jump in.

SPEAKER_02

Right? Which it does seem hard that reunions seem like everyone's talking, and you know, Andy wasn't asking that a lot of questions. You know, she was it, she wasn't on too many index alerts.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, aside from her situation with Wendy, what else was there to ask her about? That's true.

SPEAKER_02

She was just friends with everyone else, and it's not like everyone else made shady confessions about her to address. Because at least Angel could turn it around with a strong reunion performance. It could. I just doubt it'll happen. But stranger things have happened in reality. Maybe she's good, maybe that's a setting for her. Maybe that's a setting for her.

SPEAKER_00

That's saying there are, I mean, we have seen it before. There are some Housewives or reality stars or whatever, Bravo Liberties, whatever you want to say, that are like really good at the show itself, but bad at reunions, and vice versa, where they're not great at the show itself, but they're great at reunions, you know.

SPEAKER_02

If she knows she's the end fire, why don't you be the one to pop Giselle? We all want someone to do it.

SPEAKER_00

I just feel like the the thing is about Angel is based off what we know of her, it seems to me at least, because like the thing is people are talking about like her being broke. Like, I don't think she's broke. Like, I don't think this is a financial thing. I think I think it literally is just as simple as she rented this shit for like as I said on the show that she rented this for the house. Filming went on longer than she expected, and like this, and this is where we're at. But my thing is, I feel like outside of the show, like prior to signing up for the show, I think that Angel has like a beautiful life. Like, she's got a good life, she's got a good thing going on. So I almost feel like it would benefit her more to just leave the show because her husband already seems sick and tired of this shit after one season.

SPEAKER_02

I think she was like, This shit's going bad. Now I'm getting kicked out the house. This is a sign, I'm done. Back to Colorado. And maybe let her off the hook and they were like, no, bitch.

SPEAKER_00

Right. You gotta finish the other.

SPEAKER_02

If I was her, I think she knows filming went terribly. I'd be like, uh, I'm done. The leash is over. That's it. I I filmed enough. Y'all got a show. I'm clearly not coming back. Yeah, these girls don't like me. I'm going home. It's been real, but that's not what the contract says. So right.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and it's just like it almost seems to me like I feel like her husband might bring more energy to the reunion than she would. Because he he seems really pissed. Like, he seems agitated. He doesn't he is not happy with how this has worked out. Um, that uprooted his death, got him running around.

SPEAKER_02

They're probably trying to manage their business from here because they got the whole business in Colorado.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no. If I were Angel, I would definitely just willingly just leave the show at this point. Well, that's the thing. Like, I feel like if she if they do give her another season, she sticks around. Like, I could see her and her husband like ending up divorced over this damn show.

SPEAKER_02

Oh Lord, I hope not. Angel don't come back.

SPEAKER_00

But that that's the thing, though, is I feel like you can tell when a husband doesn't like being on the show, and I feel like it really does ruin marriages.

SPEAKER_02

You know, I I I would love to see Angel, you know, every once in a while at a Kiarna event. If Kiara stays on it, but that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think I don't know if I see it for Kiara either. Oh move.

SPEAKER_02

Wow! It depends on how many spots we have next season with Karen coming back. So I don't I don't know, she's on the cuss. But I don't I don't I still appreciate it. I would chop Ashley before Kay personally.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, I guess. Because Kay Well Kay's just had well, Kay's had a really bad season, but Ashley's also had a number of lackluster seasons, so it is what it is.

SPEAKER_02

If I were to do a performance review, it'd be like, okay, Kay. On thin ice, but Ashley, you've you've been slightly too low. Yeah, Ashley doesn't. And I think it would weaken, it would continue to weaken that Giselle power core. Because now no Rafa, no Ashley. What you gonna do next?

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well thing, yeah. No, I definitely Ashley needs to go. I just at this point though, I just don't I'm just not convinced they're gonna get rid of her. Because it seems like they're for some for one reason, the only reason I can think of why at this point they're still keeping her is because I feel like she's so willing to just do whatever production tells her to do or say.

SPEAKER_02

Like I feel like production's pet.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like she's just very like willing just to do like anything she's told to. I feel like that's why they're keeping her around at this point.

unknown

Right?

SPEAKER_02

Because what has she even talked about or opened up about it's like the same kind of recycled using Sheila for shit. Now she's using her her sister for shit. I hope she paid that girl. I hope she's paid her tuition.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like honestly, the last time she truly like gave us like main flute holder energy was like season four, like honestly.

SPEAKER_01

And even with her big divorce, there's still she still barely talked about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, she like she like made nothing about divorce storyline. You know, I just feel like honestly, from season four.

SPEAKER_02

Like, they're like four or five now on the most recent episode. I'm like, she hasn't been doing shit for that long. Because well, but she had them babies. She clocked down.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, right. One thing, yeah, and that's what's my thing is I feel like season five onwards, like she's been friend of energy at best and special guest at worst.

SPEAKER_02

Right? There's no substance. I don't know. She always passes on by because everyone else just seems to be worse, or gets into legal trouble. That's another thing is Wendy's gonna return, is she gonna go to jail? So that might open up a spot for Ashley and Kay, potentially.

SPEAKER_00

Oh lord. Okay, could they could.

SPEAKER_02

Alright, we can get the Candace return, but the girls aren't ready.

SPEAKER_00

They're not ready for that. Especially enough Monique is still gonna be around.

SPEAKER_02

That's another thing. Monique has a spot up for grabs potentially too if she wants it. So Kay might be cooked.

SPEAKER_00

The thing is though, is Monique is kind of like obviously in the season she's been showing she's on this whole healing shit. And I just feel like if she's if she's gonna come back as like uh like as a flute holder, she's gonna have to drop that and actually fight with the girls.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I right? I'm surprised Giselle was so kind with her. Maybe she did it for the show. Maybe if she signs on full time, Giselle will go in for the kill. I'm sure she would.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe she's scared. Maybe she's scared.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

There's no way that this Giselle and Monique, like whatever is going on, this friendship. If you if you want to call it that, there's no way it lasts if Monique actually sticks around in a larger capacity.

SPEAKER_02

You know what? I think I would like to see that. I would like to see that.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, would do do you want to move on to our other housewives over in Jersey? Over in Jersey.

SPEAKER_02

What these hoes got going on?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, as I'm sure any of you that are in the Bravo fandom know, I mean, Jersey has been on hiatus for a long ass time. And I guess casting has just been a nightmare for Jersey. Like they've done test filming and stuff like that with different dynamics, and it just hasn't worked out. Um, but basically at BravoCon, Teresa and Melissa, they kind of like essentially, I guess, went public with the fact that they've made up and they're like allegedly on good terms again now. I personally think it's 100% strategic. Well, I mean, my thing is like I think they still hate each other. I think Joe still likes his sister. Like, I think it's still they feel the same way, but I feel like they honestly made up to try to save their jobs because I feel like that's part of what's been keeping uh Jersey from returning is like this back and forth of like of production basically be in Bravo basically like we can't keep both of them around, but like which one do we get rid of? And like who like works better with like the other cast members or the new girls or like whatever. So I feel like that's been a major problem, and so I feel like they like our fake making up just to make sure that they can like be on the show when it comes back. Um and it seems to have worked because the the rumor out there is that they will both Teresa and Melissa will return. Um, and then like some there's gonna be, I think, possibly someone else that sticks around while some new girls are brought in. And um the um the new the other one sticking around is allegedly Dolores.

SPEAKER_02

Interesting. I thought Dolores was going to Rhode Island.

SPEAKER_00

She's not going to Rhode Island? I don't know. I mean I feel I feel like she could fit in there perfectly, but it looks like this guy's recurring for Rhode Island, though.

SPEAKER_02

I guess she's not like a official friend. She's just popping up to give it some legitimacy.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, I think, yeah, because they're uh what I'm seeing is they're saying that it's Melissa, Teresa, Dolores, and Jen Fessler who will be returning. Um, and then Mark like Margaret Joseph's, um, Jackie, um, Jen Adien. Um, apparently they're all fired. The other new girls that had just come on were fired. And then so it's basically gonna be Dolo, Melissa, and and Teresa with new girls, is what I'm seeing.

SPEAKER_02

I liked what I saw of that crazy Jen in the clips, but she was on the show.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like the thing with Jen is she's kind of like a Brandy Glanville type of casting thing where it's like she she's she's crazy and creates these really entertaining moments, but it's just not necessarily sustainable, I feel like, because she just pisses the other women off and she can't like keep a friendship. Like it feels like aside like it feels like Teresa is the only person that she could really stay on good terms with in the long run. It feels like everybody else, the moment she like makes a friend or an ally, she pisses them off.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I guess she has one of those explosive personalities.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I'm saying. So I think with Jen, like it's just it I feel like it just wasn't gonna work for her. But um, I don't know. Personally, I haven't really watched Jersey lately. And I mean, I was never a huge Jersey fan in the first place, but it used to be at least like somewhat good. But I feel like the last few years, Jersey's been kind of just bleh. And honestly, I'm not gonna lie, and this could be an unpopular opinion because I know that like a lot of people see Teresa as like the reason to watch Jersey, but I'm over Teresa. Like, if if I'm being 100% honest, I'm very much over Teresa. Like, I have no interest in her at this point.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I feel like Jersey has done little to keep it fresh. Even if someone doesn't watch it, I'm like, oh, it's it's like the same thing again, some variation of Teresa versus Melissa and they're goo, you know, their hooligans or their crews. And maybe the other girls turn up a little bit, but at its core, like that's what they made the show about with the casting, putting Melissa on.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for like a decade or over a decade.

SPEAKER_02

They're never gonna get away from this. It's about this damn family drama, and it's so entwined with their lives at this point. It's just like yeah. At this point, it should just be called the Judice show or something, you know, featuring these other girls.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm saying I'm just I'm not excited about the idea of Melissa and Teresa sticking out because similar to like Monique and Giselle with their like makeup or whatever, like I it's not gonna last. Like, that's like they're they may they've made up to save their positions on the show, but 100% they're gonna fall out again and it's gonna just go back to the same.

SPEAKER_02

Could be give them their own shows like the Teresa stands have something to watch, Melissa can work and you know be on TV, walk around with a camera, they can find their own show and do like a soft jersey reboot. Because I want to see like a new Jen Jersey vibe of you know women. Like I'd be interested.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it almost it almost feels to me like like Rhode Island could be the replacement for Jersey. Like, it could be. Well, especially because like after after Rhode Island was like announced and like we actually got confirmation that like they had a cast, they had filming, and then we got a trailer and everything at BravoCon. Like, I honestly was surprised to even hear that Jersey they were still trying to bring Jersey back. Like, I thought they were gonna give up on Jersey with Rhode Island coming out.

SPEAKER_02

Alright. With those seven to ten Dolores copy and paste.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and the thing is, is because they still aren't filming jersey, they still haven't finalized a cast, like nothing has really happened with Jersey. Like, there's these rumors about Calce, but nothing's actually happened. So part of me wonders, because I think Rhode Island is coming pretty soon. So I'm wondering if like if Rhode Island comes out and like does like decent like does what they're wanting in terms of viewership and like gets like good reception. I'm wondering if that'll be the final nail in Jersey's coffin. If if probably like, well, we got Rhode Island.

SPEAKER_02

It might be it and they'll just phase their favorites into these alleged spin-offs, like freaking Housewives Road Trip and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, like you could like fucking like I don't know, you could just show you could just have Teresa pop up more on next gen.

SPEAKER_02

That's true. She could walk around with Gia. Speaking of next gen, Gia was also there at the merit show. She was briefly on stage, but I was getting a drink, so I did not know what she was doing. But I saw her on the stage.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, Gia.

SPEAKER_02

But while I did briefly mention, you know, Real Housewives spin-off series. Did you see the rumor that Neene Leaks may be returning for the ultimate road trip?

SPEAKER_00

I did see that. I was very confused at first with the way they were wording it because it it at first it made it sound like they were saying she was joining Potomac. I was like, what? Um because like the headlines were like Nini Leaks joining RHLP stars, Giselle, and I was like, what? And then I thought like, oh, it's for like a it's for a road trip show. I was like, okay. Um no, I thought that was really interesting, especially because that new that those headlines and that news on Nini has been gaining a lot of traction, which makes me feel like it might be real because I might I think that like the powers that be at like NBC Universal and Bravo may be pushing it more into the news cycle to like get people hyped up. Um I mean that would be interesting because I definitely feel like I mean Andy has been because for a long time Andy wouldn't even mention Nini. Um versus like now he's been kind of mentioning her every now and again, like in positive ways, mentioning moments involving her from Atlanta. Nini's like kind of said multiple times that she's open to returning to Bravo. So I I definitely feel like there's been like these things with like groundwork being laid for her return for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Right. I'll seem that the signs are there. It's not the good little avenue for her. I just hope they pay her what she's worth. And she seems to have been-I mean, she talked about pretty much being confirmed for traitors or being asked for traitors, and then having a situation with her son. So show that like that's the same NBCU umbrella on Peacock, so clearly they're favorable towards her.

SPEAKER_00

Right. I feel like it's just like enough time has passed that they're kind of ready to maybe like reevaluate having a real a working relationship with her. Um which I hope so, because I feel like A, I want to I want to see, I want to see good things for Nene, and then also I think I want to see good things for us because I think we we it would be great for us to have her back on our screens.

SPEAKER_02

Right? No, I'd be so into that. I'd be recapping every episode, like Nene Lee.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because I think that they're trying to get like all of the iconic housewives and Giselle Bryant on it. Because other rumored names I saw were like the other rumor names I saw were like the Teresa's, the Vickies. I think that echelon of Housewives.

SPEAKER_00

Well, like the Mount More girlies. The Mount Rushmore girls.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the Mount Rushmore girlies, you know, tantamount to their franchise. Or at least, you know, they're the pushed one, like Kyle Richards and Giselle Bryant's case, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Now I see it.

SPEAKER_02

And I definitely think Karen Hooper must have like restrictions or she can't drive, because why are they calling her? But I don't think we I don't think Karen's the first choice for a road trip right now.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Imagine she gets goes get behind the wheels. They'd be like, oh wait a minute, wait a minute. I know Nene would go walking up like now wait now now, wait a minute. We don't got no Maserati's in here today, just an RV. Sh sh she'd be talking about like no, wait a minute, flu.

SPEAKER_02

Because we'd actually want to have you flip the RV over at fucking media.

SPEAKER_00

That'd be crazy. Um but no, and honestly, I feel like I could definitely see, depending on how if this ends up being true, depending on how this goes for Nini and how she plays it, I could definitely see it being an avenue for her to go back to Atlanta. Um because it kind of like in a similar way where like season two of Ultimate Girls Trip, the ex-wives club at uh at the Bluestone Manor, that kind of felt like that almost felt like an audition for like these all these women that have been fired for like possibly like, hey, maybe you might get to come back to your show, depending on how things go on here. And so and some of them did get to go back to their show. Um at least got to go into trainers. Right, it wasn't so I feel like if Nini and the thing is I feel as much as I love Nini, I feel like she is the type that screws things up for herself. So if Nini plays this right correctly, though, if she doesn't, you know, do some of her bullshit, uh, this could be a great opportunity for her to like really kind of like have her comeback moment for reality television.

SPEAKER_02

And they better pay her every set that she wants because she's worth every penny.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I don't think they're gonna pay her what she wants, I'm just saying. She's gonna have to take a pay cut from what she was getting back in the day.

SPEAKER_02

I think they should give her at least 350,000.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, yeah, because I mean before she was making like two million per season on Atlanta, so I don't know if she's gonna get that. She's definitely not getting that back.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe at least a million. I think a million on the high end. But I mean I think those adult diaper period pandas are whatever she promoted paid her a lot.

SPEAKER_00

So Well, I think I think a million is like the absolute maximum they'll pay a housewife now. And that's like if you and that's if you manage to be on the show for a decade plus. And you're iconic. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

Oh nee.

SPEAKER_00

Well, let's talk about someone who's tried and failed to be iconic, Tyla. Um you know, and the thing is I have nothing against Tyla, but like I feel like aside from the theory.

SPEAKER_02

I don't either, but I feel like she hacked her way into my Spotify top five, because like when have you heard me mention her? Right. I and and do you listen to other songs besides Water? Um, there were a few I like this this this year, I won't lie, but like top five worthy, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, so what's funny is that Tyla somehow managed to get into the Nicki Minaj mess that's been going on lately. Um for for any of you that are like chronically online like I am, I'm sure you've noticed um you know Nicki Minaj's crash out very much becoming you know Mag um doing her whole thing. I mean and you know, she she's she must be getting a check for it, I imagine. Because I mean she'd been even beefing with my governor, Gavin Newsom.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Um I guess he's her governor, so maybe she thinks she's gonna go to a pardon for her man. I don't know. I don't know where her endgame is, but I am concerned.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's been very unf it's been very unfortunate to watch, especially as somebody that's been a barb for a very long time. It's been very unfortunate to watch how this has all been playing out. But basically, um how Tyla got involved is the other day, um she re like she like retweeted or reposted or whatever they call it now on X, nothing on Twitter no more. Um she retweeted a message that basically was targeted at Nicki Minaj by some like fucking like random stan account, you know, basically saying, go away, delete social media, you're unweb. Um and what's funny to me is this article says was interpreted by fans as public shade. Well duh. Like what well how how else is that supposed to be interpreted? But uh so the barbs were going after Tyla. I don't think Nikki has mentioned this at all yet, which surprises me because you know she likes to go on a on a Twitter or ex fucking rant. Um but then the tweet was deleted, and basically Tyla is now like today claiming that she was hacked pretty much. She um she posted a picture on Instagram in which she used Your Love by Nicki Minaj as the song play. Um and she said In Trouble on the Net again. And I guess I don't know, I don't know about her claims of hackation. I mean, it's possible. I would have believed her more if she especially the fact that it was deleted pretty quickly afterwards. I would have believed her more if she just said that she accidentally retweeted it rather than she was hacked.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, is it like someone or maybe she didn't do it, like someone on her team made a mistake and they're trying to cover it up? Right. She's somebody that's there's definitely like an agency with you know access to the account on handle control, but I don't know what that was. But that is how Tyla approaches like controversy or messy questions. She just plays it off, tries to laugh. So the fact that she posted your love and talked about I'm in trouble in the net again is very on brand with her.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, because I've seen like TikTok compilations of like her entry chain questions, she'll just start dancing or laughing and sing out something. Like she's got some deflection, so she'll probably find her way through with this. But I don't know. The barbs are relentless.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I definitely think that she's pissed off the barbs a lot. I don't know if the barbs were ever like really like her fan. I don't know, but I actually I have the full tweet here now because I didn't have it for a second there, but she'll tell her reposted. What sends me too is the person's name. Um well first their their handle is full fat Cowsman, which I I found interesting. Okay, oh no. But but then but then their little like header name is Gag City Political Prisoner. Um and and they said they said keep that album, delete social media, and hide yourself from the public. Just go away and never come back. You're done, it's done. You are too mentally insane to be in the public eye anymore. This is all about Nikki. Um, it was a good run. You accomplished a lot, revived an entire genre, but it's over now.

SPEAKER_02

Um Gag City Political Prisoner is crazy, but you were referenced.

SPEAKER_00

That's hilarious to me. Well, you know, there's there are a lot of there are a lot of former barbs now. There's a lot of former barbs now.

SPEAKER_02

Imagine being like a diehard stand in communities and shit for a year. You do probably feel like a man without a nation.

SPEAKER_00

Like it's hard for me because you know I've defended Nikki's through some crazy shit. I mean, I I I I I was I was up I was up in the place of singing Bigfoot, you know. Like I was really riding for her. But you know, when she started going like MAGA and transphobic, I was like, ooh, I don't know about this. I don't know about this big dog. Um but yeah, that's the tweet. Okay, gospel.

SPEAKER_02

It seems far gone now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you but you know what? I will still continue to stream Carol Mirage, but that's that's neither here nor there. Um But you know, yeah, I really I don't think this is gonna be I don't think this is gonna like ruin Tyler's career in the same way that maybe it ruined Ice Spice's career to go against Nikki. Um because the thing is like pretty much everyone's pissed at Nikki right now. I feel like she she didn't necessarily share an unpopular opinion.

SPEAKER_02

You know, I think it's like the final domino has fell with Nikki, it seems like our fan base. I mean, there's still a contingent going hard for her, but I think if you if they didn't see it before, a lot of fans were like now, like, oh okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02

It makes me wonder what will happen with the album and the rollout, how it'll perform commercially, what the fan base will actually like be like.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, if I'm being honest, I really don't believe that an album is coming. Like, I don't think the I I really don't think an album's actually coming. Like I don't think just based off the behavior and like what's going on, like I don't necessarily believe she actually has like anything in the works. Like, I don't I feel like she's just dropping that date, doing what like saying whatever she wants, but I don't think it's real.

SPEAKER_02

I've been scared ever since you talked about people were getting into her credit cards and there were numbers people that had no didn't have before you being used to purchase shit.

SPEAKER_00

See, my thing is especially if like one of my greatest ops like made that accusation that like people were using my credit cards and shit, like I would never own up to it publicly. I would never confess like the fact that she owned up to that, I was like, Nikki. I I felt like Ash I felt like Ash would be talking to her at the reunion. Now, Nikki, hold on. It's like that man is in your purse, bitch. Keep it in the room with you. One thing, but my thing is like if if I had if it had already been pointed out by like my biggest cop, like I would not publicly admit I uh I would never fess up to it happening.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. It's given, yeah, that's his number. Well, that's unfortunate.

SPEAKER_00

That's like, yeah, that I felt like Candace, that's unfortunate. Um but yeah, no, overall, I think Tyla will be fine. I think she's gonna continue on the same trajectory she's been on, which is not necessarily to the icon status, but I think she'll you know keep putting out music, doing her thing.

SPEAKER_02

Shout them along. She'll have a solid one hit a year and thirst it out.

SPEAKER_00

And she'll be happy with it, I think. Nikki, I don't I don't really know what's going on. I don't really know where that train is going, but you know, we'll we'll be here to report on it, I guess. Or maybe not, I don't know. It's too depressing. Um, but let's talk about somebody who is absolutely on the upswing. One of our favorites from The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, uh, Miss Miss Snoop. Noop Dog herself, Whitney Levin.

SPEAKER_02

Miss, I want a scripted series. Well, you got a movie, girl. You got a movie.

SPEAKER_00

Yep, and well, and she's gonna be on Broadway too. Broadway, a movie.

SPEAKER_02

That's true. She did get Roxy Hart, which they're giving that role out.

SPEAKER_00

Right. I mean, that thing, she kind of continues a long-standing tradition of reality TV stars getting to play Roxy Hart. That's true.

SPEAKER_02

I hope Britney gets it next. Because she could actually, you know, she actually has some Broadway stage presence.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, Britney who?

SPEAKER_02

From some from Salt Lake City.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I thought you meant Britney Spears. I was like, I don't know if she's really in the Broadway.

SPEAKER_02

No, uh I I we'd be lucky if we could get a set a residency out of Britney.

SPEAKER_00

But no, is all she is in her movie era. Uh Tunnel City. You know what's well what's funny to me is, you know, like you know, Taylor, um, Frank Paul, she's like the main character basically of the Real Housewives, uh not the Real Housewives, um, the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. But I feel like uh Whitney has been the real breakout star because I mean she did because I feel like A, her image had like I feel like while people still drag her a little bit, like I feel like the fandom has become more positive towards her and Connor than they were in the first season. So I feel like she's become she's definitely become a lot more well-liked on by the fandom of the show and the general public. And then on top of that, she got dancing with the stars, she did great on there, um, damn near made it to the end. And then she was announced like a week, a few weeks ago, that she was gonna be playing Roxy Art on in Chicago on Broadway, and then she's been kind of teasing for a little bit now, like a potential movie role. And I think she might have multiple because like A, she was announced today to be in a rom-com called All For Love, and I believe this is going to be on Lifetime.

SPEAKER_02

I I think this is like I don't think the network is confirmed, but the production company has done other lifetime stuff, which makes me believe that it's like you know, the the the vibe is very Lifetime Hallmark or like the new era of Netflix Christmas movies, so they're probably shopping it to all of them and seeing the best, but well, because if I had to guess Lifetime loves a reality star, it's probably Lifetime.

SPEAKER_00

One thing, well, on top of that, I've seen her teasing like something with Disney Channel too, as well. So I don't know if she's doing like a Disney movie or a Disney TV show. Um, but I think she's doing something with Disney too that has not actually been announced yet. So I mean she's like out of everyone, I mean she's getting the best game.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean they let her do this with the stars, but one thing like on them leaks.

SPEAKER_00

One thing, because I mean Disney because I mean Disney not Disney, um Taylor, she obviously is doing the Bachelorette, which we're excited for. But I mean, like, that's like one thing. It's like it's that's like one big thing. Like Whitney's getting a lot of big things over and over again.

SPEAKER_02

So it's takes advantage of it. Yeah, but does I don't know, like Taylor, it's not that she doesn't want to be famous. I don't think Taylor has like the hustle and grind and work ethic that Whitney does. Taylor too busy chasing a man, you know?

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, I think like Taylor's like willing to do like well, I think that's the thing is she's willing to do kind of like some low effort stuff. Like Taylor would never commit to like dancing with the stars, she would never commit to like a major acting role, she would never commit to a Broadway schedule.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, definitely not. She doesn't, I don't think she has the chops, the work ethic.

SPEAKER_00

That's the thing, and I mean like obviously like Whitney went on Dancing with the Stars and we saw like how dance her.

SPEAKER_02

She was a dance major at um the youth, the little what's the young I think so, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And we we we saw a lot of talent from her. We saw a lot of talent from her. Like, I I think she really does have it, and like she kind of has like that level of just being a performer. So I mean, I don't think acting is out of the question. We're gonna have to see how it goes for her, but I I have like a certain level of confidence that she can actually do this.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I no, I agree. I feel like a Hallmark movie is definitely in her purview. Like, this is you know, in her wheelhouse, or it's not, you know, a Tarantino film. I don't think it's gonna be anything too tough. And she's literally playing a podcaster who's doing a an app who's doing a brand deal for a love app and have to go on dates for it, which is very on-brand for her.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right. Um yeah, overall, like I I think this is good for her, and what I wonder is I wonder if like if this trajectory she's on continues, like I wonder if she's gonna leave the the Secret Lives of Mormon was. Like, I wonder if she's gonna leave the show. Because it feels like she doesn't really want to do the show in the first place, anyway. Like, she literally admitted this last season, season three, that she was just there for the Dancing with the Stars opportunity.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Um I mean, I think she tried to do that, and I think she'll do it if it's taken off, but she'll definitely come back if it doesn't work, like in Mimi Leagues. But I definitely think she has the like, oh, I'm bigger than this kind of vibe.

SPEAKER_00

Right, one thing, yeah, because I mean they're I think they're filming season four right now of Secret, or they're gonna start filming season four soon if or whatever, or maybe they already filmed it. I don't know. They have a very fast like turnaround filming schedule on that show. But so I'm I sh I think she is confirmed for season four of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, but I'm wondering if she's gonna go if she's gonna like quit beyond that, if like this continues.

SPEAKER_02

Probably. I mean, like a more limited filming schedule or like move the show to LA. Because I think with that show, because it's not like as formulaic or established as housewives, they can kind of do whatever. And if the show is filming the girls all in LA, you know, trying to make it, like kind of how dance moms became and evolved, and you know, by season five or six, they were in LA. Like I can see the show going there because there's no like precedent to keep them in Utah.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Yeah, no. I mean, I just for me, I definitely I can see Whitney leaving it because I think between like these gigs she's getting, the way her career's taking off, the you know, the huge social media presence she's built, and like how much money she can make, you know, doing brand deals and stuff like that. Like honestly, I I'm at a point where I'm thinking she's probably getting to a point where she's making significantly more from all these other things than she's ever gonna make from this fucking Hulu show.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, for sure. I mean, you know I know how much you charge for a post.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Well and the thing is one, I mean, she just got I mean, even just the first season of uh the Sea Realize Mormon Wives, she was talking about doing a fucking vibrator ad for like$10,000. And that was the first season. She's gotten a lot bigger since then.

SPEAKER_02

No, the lines definitely went up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so I mean, I think yeah, I mean, honestly, and I think at this point she kind of is above the show. Like I th I think she is.

SPEAKER_02

Like, might as well be like I think she definitely is, but you know, this momentum can fleet. She's definitely having a moment now, but yeah. You know, one one lifetime movie, we'll see what happens with Disney and you know the Roxy Hart role, but they're all like kind of like blip things, not like long-term things. Like, I see how Nini you're getting a series regular on a Ryan Murphy show. You can potentially think, like, oh, this is new. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I'm not gonna see Ryan Murphy taking a liking to Whitney. Maybe she's getting on American Horror Story or something.

SPEAKER_00

I was about to say, can you imagine it? I mean, honestly, the way Ryan Murphy operates, he might launch it on the show.

SPEAKER_02

All sphere season two? Maybe she's getting on all sphere season two. I can see her on a side.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm about to say with the random ass moves that Ryan Murphy makes, he might launch a whole new show starring her. Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_02

I would I'd be intrigued to see her at all sphere.

SPEAKER_00

Let's let's make it happen. I I would watch her I would watch her in a Scream Queens reboot. Who's she gonna play?

SPEAKER_02

Dean Lunch?

SPEAKER_00

No, she's she's about the same age, if not younger, than those girls were when they were making Scream Queens.

SPEAKER_02

That's true.

SPEAKER_00

She could she could pass as a college student. She could pass as a college student. Well, good for Whitney. You know, I I I support it. I went from being like a certified Whitney hater in season one of Secret Lives of Mormon Wise, well, I actually liked her by the end of season three, so I'm feeling her. I'm I'm cool with her, I'm cool with her little gay husband. Like, it's all good.

SPEAKER_02

Um you wouldn't need to do that to Connor.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I I think I did need to do it, but it's okay because he's you know, he's doing the right thing, but he's doing right by her. He's taking care of the kids, he's support, he's being very supportive while she's getting all these gigs. So I support it. But if y'all want to support us, make sure you rate this podcast uh five stars if you haven't already. Go follow us on our socials. We are at on a real note pod on TikTok, X, uh, Instagram, YouTube, Blue Sky. We are all over the place. And you know, we're everywhere except for the alt-right websites. So you can find us everywhere else besides there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and rate and review so we can charge$10,000 for a vibrator ad.

SPEAKER_00

Right, exactly. I want I want to do, I wanna plug a fucking rose toy for$10,000. I'll do it. Well, thank y'all so much for listening to another episode, and we will see you next week for Christmas. We're so excited, but um, have a good rest of your day. We'll see y'all later. Thank you so much.