Current Events: Libra Edition

The recent mess recapped. Britney Spears' and Jennifer Lopez' unemployed exes coming from the woodwork. Real Housewives of Potomac recap. Tyler the Creator reaped what he sowed while Bella Hadid did not.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:13

Welcome back, No Takers. This is Noah Aaron with the Honorale Note Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

And this is Aiden. I did not get chin chat. Oh? Not yet. You better not cross me in front of Giselle down at the table, man. Oh well.

SPEAKER_03 0:30

Today we are going to be talking about some missiles being launched, both figurative and possibly literally. Um we're going to be talking about weapons of mass destruction. We're going to be talking about Potomac. We're going to be talking about loser ass ex-boyfriends and husbands coming for you. We might be talking about some credit card fraud. And we might be touching a little bit on, you know, racism, but we'll save that for later. But Aiden, how are you feeling today? How are you feeling about all these headlines out there, right now?

SPEAKER_01 1:04

You know what? I feel like everyone's getting their reckoning. I don't know if it's something in the teams in the moon, but I feel like a lot of people are getting dragged or exposed. There's tell-os, which is usually, you know, a norm in the celebrity sphere. But I've never seen so many, I feel like, in like a five-day period. I don't know if it's just me, but a lot of people are getting dragged. There's not even one focus on it. It's just like there's so much going on that. It's kind of like nothing's going on.

SPEAKER_03 1:32

Right. It's it's just like all these grenades are being thrown in every which direction, and you're like, what the heck? It's giving Peter and his thinking grenades. What's going on?

SPEAKER_01 1:43

What's happening? Quite exactly, quite exactly. Dive into it. I'll be like K Fed talking again, which Kevin Fed a lot. I told you this before recording, but I feel like I am old enough to know his name and his relation to Britney. But young enough, I don't know what he was famous for to begin with in the first place. Like why why he was in the sphere. You know, I always thought he was one of the jackass boys, because he just seemed so jackass toted, but apparently he was a dancer, so there I go stereotyping people. Well, that's okay. He deserves that. Oh, you know, I do know him from his WWE era, 2006. He he was on he was on WWE for a few weeks. Wow, so I'm like So I was always like, okay, he's from there, but I knew he was famous, but I don't know for what. And like him being a guest star in WWE definitely makes sense in terms of me rec remembering his ass. But I always kind of knew him as a leech, and I guess the 18 years is up, so here's the book. Because he didn't work out a revenue stream. You couldn't, I don't know, you could have franchised a McDonald's or something.

SPEAKER_03 2:53

Well, I mean, that's the thing is he's definitely in the last few years, he's definitely been talking more than he did, you know, and however however long. Um, but yeah, he is finally putting it down into words on his memoir, which is titled You Thought You Knew, which I'm like, okay, that's kind of a boring title, but whatever. Right.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

It's given a housewife and her second teason trying to get a quick little book view.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

Right, right. It's a little, it's a little like who's asking for this, but I guess nobody is because from what I saw, it's like flopping hard. Like nobody is buying this book. Like, it's it's a New York Times worst seller, from what I can see. Is that a real list? I don't think so, but in my head. The list is in my head.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Well, we're probably gonna honor real. We're we're putting this on the code. It's like the reverse of the Oprah's book club. Do not buy this.

SPEAKER_03 3:45

Right. Well, what's weird to me is it feels like he's looking for sympathy. Like he's looking like, oh, everyone's on Britney's side, and everyone's gotten to hear Britney's side of the story, and nobody cares to hear my side of the story.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

She's the one that we like and we know.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

One thing, yeah, she's the star. You were the star fucker. Like, I don't know what you I don't know what you expect.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

If you wanted sympathy, you should have stayed with Shar Jackson. He would have probably took your side. Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

But it's just also like he's like, it seems like he's wanting us to feel sorry for him, but then like when you look at the headlines that are coming out, it's talking about how in his memoir he's talking about like his divorce settlement from Britney and how he was getting$20,000 per month in child support, as well as an additional um$20,000 per month in alimony for half the duration of their 26-month marriage. Um, and then he's like making comments about he says um that it does it doesn't stretch as far as you would think. And it's like, I don't think that's gonna make most people feel bad for you. And also, hearing that you got if you finished your thought. Well, I'm just saying, hearing that you got over a million dollars out of the deal, and like and you want to say feel bad for you, I I feel like Mama Joyce right now. What are you getting out of it? I'm like, I'm motioning to the whole house.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Right, especially because you know, it is kind of some trying economic times. A lot of people don't even get that money from going to work for 40 hours a week. You talking about right, right? For lack of better terms, a handout is insane.

SPEAKER_00 5:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

But I'm saying even then he has the opportunity to do all these little weak ass celebrity shows. Like I'm sure you saw Dancing with the Stars, maybe he might be too little low-brow. They love a stun over there. He could have done Dancing with the Stars. I don't know if the traders wants him, but he could definitely do I'm a Celebrity, get me out of here, or something, you know, of similar line. Oh, special forces, bitch. They they would love him on special forces. I know they got a good little bag getting lit up on fire and shit. Like, there were avenues to make some money, Kevin. He should have brought his ass on special forces before I did this fucking book.

unknown 5:56

Right.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

Kenya Moore did one thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

No, if if it's if it's good enough for Kenya Moore, it's definitely good enough for Kenya.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

I saw Eva Marcel like drowning damn near dying on that show to get a little check. And and she's a woman, Kevin. So you could have gotten your grown ass, your grown ass man, get flown to Kuwait or wherever they film special forces. And started carrying bitches to get your check. Christy Carso Romano can do it, so can you.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

Right. Well, that's the thing is I just I don't I just see I just have I have no reason to feel bad for him. That's the problem here, is it's kind of like I have you know, at least like with Britney's memoir, I'm like, oh, this is sad.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Like, you know, you know what I'm saying? I think he thinks it's such a dichotomy that people are gonna be like, oh, it's Kevin R. Brittany. But I think it's just like, well, we knew all we knew Britney was a little crazy. There were always like these things coming out. Yeah. I remember as a kid, like, I just always thought Michael Jackson and Britney Spears are bad parents because like the photos I saw of like the baby being hung around and Michael Jackson holding his over the balcony. So just as a kid, that was what was always in my head. So it's not like this is a new thing with Britney. It's not.

unknown 7:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

It's not like people thinking you're an un an unemployed leech on Britney is a new thing either. And they're both, it appears to be both true. Well, let's get to some of the specific stories that he's trying to share about Britney, which are kind of wild, but also just like, you know, that seems that seems accurate. It seems. Like, I don't not believe him. Unfortunately. But you know, so some of the incidents are just like verbally berating them. Once woke up Jaden at midnight to put lotion on his face on a school night. Uh she gave Jaden shellfish knowing he was allergic to it. Forced him to continue horse riding despite allergies to horses. A lot of shit like that. Bleaching their hair down to the scalp, leaving that with burns. Preston once asked when he was 10 or 11 why Spears kept forcing him to bathe with her. So these are just like the the major, you know, the major headlines and drops, which do do seem consistent with somebody of Britney's mental health. Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:02

What's the yeah, Brittany, and that's the thing is I think there was a period of time like with the Free Britney movement, especially like when she was kind of speaking for herself in court and everything. Um, and she sounded very like c like she sounded very competent, she sounded very with it and together and everything. I think there was a moment in time where people were actually like, oh, okay, like Britney's gonna get it together, like this is gonna be something, and then and then we freed her and she's just been doing whatever she's been doing, twirling around looking crazy as hell.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

There are also like previous stories of like bodyguards and housekeepers speaking out, which are consistent with what K Fed is saying, so unfortunately he's telling some truth, but and I hope he got the little$40,000 advance from the book, because there ain't more money selling. So I hope you put it into an investment fund or something. Cause you're gonna need another con in a few years, Kevin.

SPEAKER_03 9:03

Oh yeah, no, this definitely feels like this this feels like the last ditch effort to like squeeze whatever else he can out of his Britney Spears marriage. Like, this is like the final the final moment to monetize this for like whatever it's worth.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

At least, you know what? I'll give him that. He never tried to make them kid stars. At least he did that. Right, yeah, he did that right. But I'm sure kids can dance their ass off with with you know Britney's dancing ability and Kevin's, you know, slight talent. You know, if if you if you could dance in the Christina Million. Oh, he was in Pink Get the Party Started? Okay. That's a cute little discography. Christina Million, AM the PM, Pink Get the Party Started. That's true. Those are two cute ass music videos. Okay, K Fan, I see you. Sabrina Carpenter may have him.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

What I kind of understand, like I definitely feel like the narrative over the like, there's definitely been a narrative in place that like he's like partially responsible for like ruining Britney's life, basically. Like, that's kind of been part of it because at least as far as the public's concerned, and what the public was privy to, you know, her kind of downward spiral began around the same time that she got involved with Kevin. Um so I can I can kind of see maybe like a motivation between behind being like, well, I wanna I wanna speak for myself on this, but also just in general, it feels it feels very like petty and disingenuous because like he says things like um, I've never been against Britney, um, I only want good things for her, um, as he's like dragging out all this stuff that's obviously gonna make Britney look terrible and that's obviously gonna be like upsetting and hurtful to her. So I mean and you know, and my thing is I'm like, if you gotta if you know if she did all these things and you want to expose it, then go for it. But my thing is like don't say these nicey nice things about her as you're doing it, you know, and like play try to play both sides of it.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

Like and haven't you got enough media off of her, sir? Because I'm real I'm reading now that he has that failed album funded mostly by Britney Spears in 2006. And it was it was a hip-hop album, mind you. I don't know who tells him he wanted to do this. Oh my god, we can't so fucking messy.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

That was that was pissing out.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

He went on tour now. I have to read this. He commenced the playing with fire tour at Webster Hall of New York City, mediocre venue, out of a total seating capacity of 1500. He performed to an estimated audience of 300, of which two-thirds left before the end of the show. God damn.

SPEAKER_03 11:58

I mean, and when the thing is, like, I I remember seeing pictures of Kevin Federaline at that time, and like back in like the mid-2000s, he like walked around LA like looking and dressed the same way that like Justin Bieber does now.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Um that would be like a taxi uh without without the tech company. I'm saying, yeah, like that because he he on Facebook, bitch. You don't own Facebook.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

Well, and just like definitely, I think a lot of this has backfired on Kevin because the reaction hasn't been nice. Obviously, Britney's fans are like tearing him to shreds, the general public isn't really isn't really falling for it. Um, you know, the the poor book sales are being reported in the media. You're getting articles like this one I told you about before the recording. The the with fucking Yahoo Entertainment of all places, the fucking headline sent me, Kevin Federline is ready to move on from his Britney Spears era, but first, a memo. Just like shady as hell, and then you even have Britney Spears herself speaking out, and what she put out there, which is funny because I don't think she wrote this because usually um usually her social media posts are significantly less literate. But um what she posted was the constant gaslighting from my ex-husband is extremely hurtful and exhausting. I have always pleaded and screamed to have a life with my boys. Relationships with teenage boys is complex. I have felt demoralized by this situation and have always asked and almost begged for them to be a part of my life. Sadly, they have always witnessed the lack of respect shown by their own father for me. They need to take responsibility for themselves. With one son only seeing me 45 minutes in the past five years, and the other with only four visits in the past five years. I have pride too. From now on, I will let them know when I am available. Trust me, those white lies in that book, they are going straight to the bank, and I am the only one who genuinely gets hurt here. I will always love them, and if you really know me, you won't pay any attention to the tabloids of my mental health and drinking. I am actually a pretty intelligent woman who has been trying to live a s uh a sacred and private life for the past five years. I speak on this because I have had enough, and any real woman would do the same.

SPEAKER_01 14:24

Period. I mean, definitely doctor, definitely some chat GPT. Our team used chat GPT. Somebody used chat GPT. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

So see, nobody would nobody wants to nobody wants to put in the proper the proper effort to put out like a notes like statement that they wrote themselves. Now they gotta have AI do it.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

I missed the iOS note press release era. Right, that was a moment.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

Because you you knew they actually wrote that shit.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

But then Canva came around and ended that shit. Fucking Canva. Um got in like Sam Asgari and just moved on and got into work.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

Right. Right, that's that that's true. Uh, did you want to move on to the other the other feuding exits?

SPEAKER_01 15:21

I mean, could could we call it a feud? I feel like she likes to not acknowledge people's existence. Even when they're dragging the fuck out of her. Let's get into the J-Lo of it all.

SPEAKER_03 15:33

Yes, J Lo and her and her ex-husband are are beefing. They're beefing now. Like, well, I mean, he it's it seems like one side, like he's beefing.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

He was in response to something else that she said. Because she was talking about all of her marriages and like, oh, I've never been properly loved, I've never been this, which he seemed to take offense too, which I think he just wanted a little moment responding to that. Like Jennifer was clearly just you know, venting and reflecting. Wasn't necessarily a fair thing to say. Like, no, but I mean I I I wasn't there in the words of Kiki Palmer. You weren't there, so uh you know, I can't say whether or not she's been loved, but he said I gotta he said I have the things some things to say.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

Oh, he's I didn't even know this is one of the marriages she had before, you know, we were really born, so well that well, I mean, they were married from 97 to 98, so we were, you know, we were we were born.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

We were infant. We were infant. We were we were breastfeeding, we were sucking our mama cities. We didn't have time for J-Lo.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

We did not have time for J Lo and her man. Uh, but it it just set me that his response started with, let me just say, stop putting us down, stop putting me down with your victim card, the personal frame Zach wrote on Instagram Friday, the problem is not us, not me. The problem is you. Why is he saying us like he's a fuck their fucking union?

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Like it's a joint statement.

SPEAKER_03 16:55

Right? Like that's a he he really does, he really is actually. And if you read over the whole like rant, he really does seem like he's like he's speaking for all of her ex-husbands. Right?

SPEAKER_01 17:06

I mean, maybe he is speaking for Casper, but I don't know if she ever married Casper, but not Casper. Oh my god, I don't think she ever married him, but she dated Casper as a backup.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

I I just cried that the problem is you, you're the one who couldn't keep it in your pants. You have been loved four times. You have been married four times, and I've had countless relationships in between.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Well, honestly, this Cuban man is fine. Why work out with J Lo and him? Well, I mean, at his age, I went to his Instagram, he's posting Thurstrap, so I think he's just as much of a fucking whore. He has an OnlyFans? He has an OnlyFans.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

See, I should I should have I should have known when they listed, I should have fucking known. When they when Paige Six listed his occupation as a personal trainer, I should have just known.

unknown 17:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

He's trying to if I was J Lar, I wouldn't respond either. This looks his page looks like a low, it's like looks like a I don't know, a go-go boys fucking feed.

SPEAKER_03 18:08

What's the so basically I mean he is a fine man. What's it? So basically her ex-husband is showing hole on OnlyFans and doing celebrity boxing matches with Joe Judice in the box.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

I cannot. I cannot. And he wants to call her off for not keeping it in her papers. So this man is broke.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'll let you spoil the detail of the story. Well, no, it's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

I was just getting I kept getting guess more so it's more so he's just been ranting and raving about her. I mean, like I said, he was accusing her of not being able to keep it in her pants. She was talking about I I was in love with you. I moved out of the state, leaving my job, my family, and friends to support you. I tried to protect you. I'm an amazing person. I'm a great human being. I'm I was faithful to you, never lied, never misbehaved, and never cheated on you.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Honestly.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

And he said, he said, you chose fame and fortune, moving a part of our relationship. You decided to lie to cheat on me. And even though I stayed, I even tried to keep the marriage going and alive. You even begged me to stay because at the time you didn't want bad press.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

That sounds about right. Especially Jennifer 99 trying to build her star. She definitely would say that shit.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

When he said you should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Yeah, he seems like he seems like a lot. The thing is, this was her first husband. Did she even remember this one? I don't. I feel like she's like, You know how I love JLo, but I'm kind of on her side. It just seemed like an angry ass ex, but it's funny as hell.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

One thing, I feel like it definitely seems to me. I I would think that like maybe like when she made that statement, she was kind of expecting like someone, like a more relevant ex-husband to speak out. She was probably a little surprised when it was this one. Like I think she was like prepared for like someone to speak out and like get a little backlash, but I don't think she was prepared for this one to be doing all this.

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Right? She's like, that that one? But I think it's no surprise that this was on page six. Because only the messiest of the publications will probably reach out to him, like, oh, do you have a response to what Jennifer said? I know Ben's team was probably just like, um, we're not dealing with this. They said uh they said ask Jen Afflack about that.

SPEAKER_03 20:44

She's busy. Oh my god. This man, Jennifer's expelling, he is charging$21.99 per month on his OnlyFans. Who's paying for this?

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Some some probably old, unfortunate Cuban gay, probably. I'm just gonna say four letters L P S N G, and we'll leave it there.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Oh he's probably not even showing that much.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Well maybe, maybe he's going there.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

One thing, I mean, he's just like but on top of that, like on his Instagram in the last few days since all this happened, he's like still he's like posting things like stay tuned and breaking news, and it's his middle finger.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Um he seems a little mentally unstable, but I hope he's gotten traffic driven to the OnlyFans page. I'm sure visits are spiking. And hopefully subscriptions are too, for his sake. Because LA rent seems expensive. And I know he don't own. I know he don't own. I mean, yeah, I don't know. It's it's it's all crazy. It's it's like the Britney and Kevin thing. I think they're both telling the truth. I think they're both just like I think both demanders come off as, you know, hating that. Bitches who are trying to hang on out to touch a woman. Who probably is a little crazy.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

Yeah. I'm crying at um I'm crying at the the this this article for with the mirror described him as Jennifer Lopez's forgotten first husband. I mean. Because I honestly I didn't realize how many times she had been married.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

I didn't know it was four either. I knew I knew Mark Anthony and Ben Affleck, but I figured there was like one before that. I don't know there were two before that.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

Well, and the thing is, this guy, he's been talking about Jennifer like before because I found an article with the free free press journal. Um and Jennifer Husband's first husband, um, O Johnny Noah says marriage with Ben Affleck won't last. And this is from 2022. That's I mean I mean a lot of people are saying that, but yeah, that is messy. So he's he's been saying stuff about her. It seems like every few years he he does some interviews about Jennifer.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

Well it seems like if a publication asks, he's gonna say. And it seems like every few years Jennifer does something that, you know, a low-tier publication like page six or The Shade Room or the Honorable No podcast.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Or reach out to him, well yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Yes. Well, I don't know if I'd reach out to him, but I might ask about the celebrity boxing matches with Joe Judice. I'm very curious about that.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

I am very curious about that. 100%. I'm just like, excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

Like if y'all ever do one of those in New York, I might I might attend.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

Oh, I would if if you know, if it was possible, I would love to to be in New York and watch that shit. That sounds iconic.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Anything else on The Queen who started in the 2002 hit film Made in Manhattan?

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Um no, nothing else on you know the flop.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Uh no, not too much. Made in Manhattan is up there with the godfather. She she brought her heart in those films. If you ask me. If you ask me, I know I don't know if you ask the movie boss, if you ask our movies on Reddit, they might disagree, but I think Main if like if the Godfather is number seven, Maiden Manhattan is eight. You know, they're close.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

Okay, okay, I hear you, I hear you. I honor you. I I I can receive that.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Speaking of maids, let's go over to the real hotwise of Potomac, who probably all cannot afford a maid. But maybe. I mean, you know, let's get into it. Who on Potomac do you think can afford a maid?

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Well, I feel like, at least from what we've seen so far, I feel like these new girls, Tia and Angel, they got enough money for that.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

That's true. That we see, that we see. Well, now I'm now skeptical about Tia's coins because the whole thing was them talking about like childcare and how to balance that with her husband. Who one, I thought she'd have a more dignified, classy husband or something. He seems like just some guy. Two, shouldn't you have a nanny to be if you that rich, shouldn't you have a nanny to be managing these kids in their schedules? And then you ask the 13-year-old to watch a nine-year-old, and you got the 16-year-old terrorizing the whole house.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Well, her husband kinda has a her husband kind of has a gay voice, too.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Oh, you know, you know, you I don't I'm just saying. Well I feel like Azealia Banks in the Breakfast Club. Well, what not?

SPEAKER_03 25:42

Well, anyway. I mean, I'm just saying, it's especially noticeable when you compare him to the other new housewife's husband, you know, Angels may.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

Ooh, that is a fine man. Definitely not gonna be. You know, lost it and got charged with fraud in the same week.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

What's I'm saying, yeah. Between Angel's husband showing up and these fraud charges, Eddie is suddenly a lot less sexy.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Right? Now you don't have no job. You got federal charges. I'm sure you're losing the weed. I think you probably need no charges to own like a marijuana business is very regular right now.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

So I mean, yeah, I feel like they're pretty they're pretty hard. I mean, it's I feel like the rules are pretty strict. There's a lot of regulations. I it's not easy. It's not easy being in cannabis.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

So you might have to start the OnlyFans soon. Oh Lord. I I know Wendy would be guest. I think Wendy would be setting up props and doing the shooting. I don't know. Oh Lord. Setting him up in some Black Panther ass outfits talking about Wakanda.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

And and we would review it on TikTok. We would review his his only hand. Not a big ass emoji covering thing. That'll get us fucking banned. Right?

SPEAKER_01 27:05

No, we we were in TikTok jail for a little moment. It's been a while. Violation. We've been good. We've been good.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

Yeah, we we've stayed out of TikTok shit list. Um, but yeah, Potomac, we uh well, first of all, have you been I've so so far, because we're three episodes in, and I've been enjoying this season, but how have you been feeling?

SPEAKER_01 27:27

I've definitely been enjoying it, though. I'm having a good time. It's not I'm not getting bad vibes like I have in previous seasons, and things seem to be moving along fairly quickly. Like I thought that they'd be harping on the Stacey jumping, but thankfully we've kind of moved on to trying to blow up Keart on Angel's friendship. And there seem to be more things developing. So I'm like, okay, we're not jumping Stacy for too long. They'll probably circle back to it, but we seem to be moving on quickly, which I like. And I think the new girls are being introduced very well. Like, I don't know. Sometimes maybe having two at a time was very helpful, and they can have an well, they're not really friends, but Angel kind of has K and T is kind of doing it all on her own, but they both seem strong enough on their own. They both have nice houses they can film in. They both have like interesting. I mean, not really storylines, but I'm I still want to get to know them at this point, and so I don't find them boring, right? So it's fine. So yeah, I think the newbies are working well, and there's enough going on between the casts, mainly because Kiana is really real thirsty. It's kind of annoying, but it's giving something to the show. So Yeah, no, but it's allowed to ask her to do her fucking coasting as per usual, but you know, I'm I'm having a good time, but who is Kiana having a fall from Grace?

SPEAKER_03 28:41

Yeah, it's really unfortunate, especially because I feel like we've been very big advocates for her on this on this podcast. Um, you know, since since her very first season as a friend, we've been kind of like cheering her on. I feel like we've made excuses for her for like because the thing is like in pat her past season she's just kind of been boring and has fallen flat. Um and then this season though, it's like she's having the whole other opposite problem of like she's she's just trying like she's trying everything, she's trying to do anything she possibly can to keep this job.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

She said every thought I have is going out there. I'm gonna start yelling at my friend, I'm gonna be a little too forward and too aggressive. Like it's just off-putting sometimes, like in the scenes. She's like just turning the fuck up. But it's like, girl, we're not there. It's how it's how I feel like they thought about Candace, but Candace was saying something a little cute and you know, kind of move on. That's like girl, we don't be just trying to f start a fight right now.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

What I feel like usually Candace was at least like provoked, like, and like she was poked and prodded at first because I feel like Kiarna, like I like with Wendy, for example, I feel like she's like just grasping at straws. Like I agree with Wendy when she said you're gonna it's it's a little uncomfortable with you like at every turn trying to have an issue with me. Like, she's like she wants to fight with Wendy so badly, and it just feels so forced and so desperate that it's like Wendy doesn't even have to try, Wendy can just sit there and laugh in her face. Which she did. That was hilarious. Her and Kiana flipping each other up on that bed.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

You know what's messy when they're filming on a park bed like you don't want that bitch in your house? I remember Kiara and Mia did one of those in their business casual handshake.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Well, I thought that was because Mia's apartment was too cramped to get a camera crew in there, but they eventually figured it out.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

And when they just isn't taking it seriously at all, because like I said, she like crap just laughed in Kiana's face, and she continued to laugh in Kiana's face as Kiara got more pissed off. And then when they were walking away, she tried to put her arm around Kiana and got shot.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Right? Just like so, like a girl shout out. What is this?

SPEAKER_03 30:49

It reminded me of that hot mic moment um after Monique and Candace got into it like at a at a table at a restaurant, and then you like the there was no footage, but then afterwards outside the restaurant, you hear the you hear the you hear the audio of like Monique cackling and and like trying to like hug Candace and Candace like crying and tell her to get off.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

Yeah. I don't know. Katie's looks like an angry ass child, especially because like the reasoning is like, oh, I don't think Wendy's as much of a friend as I want to be. She's like a TV friend. It's like the kind of conversation that you don't need to bring to the show that you kind of just like internalize and move on about. It's like does this need to be an on-camera discussion? I don't feel like she'd rather I'd rather you just try to be sneaky and messy, be like, does Eddie still talking to the booty models or something? Like, I don't I don't know. Right.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

Well that's the thing. It's like just like I guess if you if you want to fight with Wendy, like bring something, you know, worth fighting over. Because like, what is this?

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Or if you want to just go for somebody, go for Giselle. I know you know her and all, but go for go for the queen. Why not? Take a shot. Go for that bitch. Production might try to stop, production might fuck you, but it's worth the try. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

Yeah, it's definitely unless things turn around. I definitely am getting the feeling that this is Kiana's last season. Like, I I don't I don't know if I see her continuing on after this. I I I just feel like unless there's a really good reunion.

SPEAKER_01 32:21

Like an amazing reunion.

SPEAKER_03 32:23

Yeah, because I just feel like production gave her a talking to, and she took the wrong lessons from it, and she's not doing herself any favors now.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

And it's and like Angel and T are fitting in so far, so they're coming for her spot. Monique was a friend of, so she's potentially floating around as like the champagne that season. You know, Karen's coming back for sure. Like, yes, Wendy's probably not returning, so there is an extra spot open, but though there's also Monique and Karen making their return. And you know, I'm a candy boy, so I'm always gonna throw candice in the ring. And you know what? You know what? 60 Days of Rehab, Katie Ross can do to be a friend of too. So she has a lot of competition.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

What I and you know, I'm I would like for Kiana to get it together, A, because like we've been kind of advocates for her since the beginning, but also B, because I I want her to to occupy a spot because I I I so desperately want the Ashley Darby firing. And I swear to God, if Ashley squeaks by yet again because Kate can't get it together.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

The moment Wendy got around. I saw that Wendy Muggshot and this fucking bitch actually that survived another season. She will after the apocalypse, it will be Ashley Darby on her fucking forehead and the cockroaches. Cause when Ashley last had a storyline, like for real.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

Well, you're 100% correct because like Ashley literally for the last I don't know how many seasons, they it should have been her final season. She should have been around.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

I know we've we we've been saying it. Okay, let's do all the episodes. We've been saying it.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

We've been doing it saying it over and over again, and it's just like every single fucking time, she literally gets she literally is saved by somebody else's mess.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

Somebody plays a fucking idol or something.

SPEAKER_03 34:07

One thing, yeah. Fucking Robin does her bullshit, Candace quits, Karen gets arrested.

SPEAKER_01 34:12

Yeah, exactly. Wendy's doing fraud. I mean, we don't know if Wendy will leave, but Wendy's doing fraud.

SPEAKER_03 34:19

It's just like every fucking time.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

And fucking next year we'll find out Tia's a whole fucking scammer until he saves again. Right. At this rate.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

Next year, Giselle actually will get herpes. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

But you know what? I feel like Angel and Ashley have some contention. That's why I want Ashley Angel to stay on the show, I mean. Because I want I want people to go check Ashley, and I think we're starting to get that.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

Well, Stacy's defin Stacy is not playing with these bitches. Like, as we've seen in the episode so far, and as we've seen from reviews for the rest of them. And I am so happy to see it. But I've I was already pissed off though at the end of this episode, just like when Stacy kind of clapped back at Kiana and Ashley's like, oh, that's too far. That's too far. Like, why would you say that? And it's just it just irritates me because I'm like, y'all have been like you, Kiana, fucking Giselle, Wendy to something. Like, y'all have been jumping her every episode for the first three episodes, and like you don't like, but the moment she says anything back, like it's too far. It it's giving the same way they treated Candace.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

The line is always moving.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

Literally, and it's just like, and like honestly, like what she said, like I don't understand the whole too far thing. It's like all sh she just made a joke about the chin checking and like the about the fact that Karen likes to fight. Like what was so bad about that?

SPEAKER_01 35:45

Especially coming from you. Unless she said another line they edited out, like specifically referencing a fight or getting violent, then they should have relaxed. But even then, it was a big end today. Like one now. And Angel had brought it up earlier. And actually, you started that whole shit because you brought your Muppet looking friend in the start shit.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

Fucking Big Deb. They brought Big Deb on in to do some do some crazy assets.

SPEAKER_01 36:16

I think it ended up being that like, you know, like Deborah wasn't found with anything, or she didn't get any coins, so I would still curse Ashley. I would still find a way to blame Ashley. I don't know. Right, I would too much. If somebody instigated got me hit with glass, bitch.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

Like, she kind of like let Ashley have it a little bit last season. But like I I I don't understand how she doesn't have more spot. Like, you have all the smoke for fucking for fucking Wendy and Stacey. And even your own friend Angel.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

But not for Ashley. Go jump Ashley, go jump Ashley. Show up to her, little sweat box of a house.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

Yeah. And that's the other thing is the Kiarna and Angel dynamic has really confused me thus far because they've really pushed this whole thing about like that's like their thing. It's like, oh, they've been friends for 20 years, they have this long-established relationship. Right. But like they they've kind of already started turning on each other even faster than Mia and Jacqueline did, which is insane to me.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Oh, that was crazy. I know, but tell me it seems like Giselle. Something about her gets in the way of these friendships, because the moment she involved, these people at each other's throats. I don't know what she does.

SPEAKER_03 37:35

That's it. She's determined. It's it's just her it's just her and her broad shoulder bush buddy. They're the only friends on the show.

SPEAKER_01 37:42

I mean, it's a good way to keep yourself at the center. This is why Giselle needs to play Survivor. Giselle would have ran the fuck out of a mid-20s Survivor season. I'm sorry. At least the trainers. At least to the at least to the fucking trainers.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

Right? Isn't she? She should. I know she wants to do it. She needs to do the trainers. I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01 38:01

She would have those gamers got because they wouldn't be thinking she's of the shit she's up to. Right. Oh my god. But the thing is, I don't know if I don't know if I don't know if just like looking away and looking sternly at Andy is gonna, you know, round, you know, survive the round tables. You can't just look at Alan and get people to move on. They're gonna keep asking questions, just uh Right.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

Not her just not not someone accusing her of being the traitor and she just scrunches her face at and says nothing.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

Like Alan the left that's just slide, boo. You're gonna have to say something.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

I like I wonder like if she would get confused and like if somebody accused her of being the traitor, then she'd like bring up their marriage or something.

SPEAKER_01 38:41

Probably, or some tea that she has up on the line, make something up, add some hot sauce or something somebody else told her. That's what she's like. Well, she told me you were a traitor, Noah.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

Well, the bitch lies, so do you are you gonna trust that neck? Um but yeah, a b a big a big topic of conversation this episode was the was the chin checking and whether or not it was said or not. And Kiana went back and forth because she like said it, obviously, but then she when it was brought up, she's like, Oh, I didn't say that. She's like, I wouldn't say that. And then she apparently went back to Angel off camera and admitted to saying it and apologized. But then when it was brought back up again with all the women around, then she like went around and tried to say again that she didn't say it, and basically Giselle made that shit up. And I love that Giselle is self-aware enough to in her confessional be like, I want I don't even She's like, these ladies are so messy and doing foolishness, I don't even have to lie anymore. At least you're admitted to it finally, bitch. Anymore. She's like, I don't even have to lie anymore.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

I'll be like, there it is, and there it is. I know Candace felt vindicated. She'll gotta add her little fake spin. I know Giselle's the master of the fake spin, not actually. But I know I'm very intrigued where Angel and Kiana's relationship is going to go. I hope it survives because seeing your friendships die on Housewives is like actually very sad.

SPEAKER_03 40:16

Well, yeah, like a 20-year friendship that started when they were teenagers. Like, yeah, I don't want to see that fall apart. It's the same thing with like when Robin and Giselle were on the show together and they would really irritate the fuck out of me. Like, I wanted like one of them to go because I was sick of it, but I didn't want their friendship to like suffer. Like, I just wanted like I just wanted one of them off the show, you know, but I didn't like want their friendship to go up in flames and end.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

I wonder how Rob and Giselle fight would actually go down if it was on the show. Now Robin come back as a friend up to spill some tea. That'd be crazy.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

I just I can't imagine a world where Giselle and Robin like really like actually fall out, especially not on camera. And like even like there's been like a few moments where they've kind of had like a little bit of tension, but honestly, every time they have, it's a it's almost felt scripted to me. It almost felt like they self-produced that shit.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Even if it wasn't, I feel like if they had a little something, they would figure it out off camera quick. Which Angel and Kay need to learn. But I think Kay began angry be losing the script, and then Angel's like, well, what now, bitch? This is my first time.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

One I kind of see Angel processing her first ever housewives dinner ambush like on that bus. Like, damn, bitches got me, and I still gotta film, huh?

SPEAKER_03 41:37

Right. One thing, and I I feel bad for Angel too, because like the women were kind of trying to portray her as if she's like a punk or something. Right. Because like they were like, Oh, you had all that energy at the store. One thing, yeah, you had all that energy at the store, but it's different now. And like I and the thing is, like, she put it perfectly. She was like, because I was really upset that day. And like now I've calmed down. Like, that's pretty much what she was saying. And these women, like, were fast.

SPEAKER_01 42:00

Do you not understand now? Y'all y'all worked before.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

I mean, no, because like Giselle and Ashley are both like so they're so willing, they're like so willfully dense, you know. Like they choose to be dense as hell.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Yeah. And they're definitely all waiting. They're definitely trying their little hazing, the new girls thing. And the new girls are gonna have to figure it out soon. But I hope at least like maybe by the trip or halfway through the season, like Stacey, Tia, Angel, and Kay can be like, you know what? We outnumber that, huh? We don't gotta take her shit. And Wendy might do it too. And next thing we know is just them versus Giselle and Ashley. Speaking of Giselle and Ashley, is GN can we add G and A to the list of failed ventures on both of their behalf?

SPEAKER_03 42:42

Because I mean, yeah, because I mean, even last season they basically were like, well, now it's like a non-profit. It's like, what do you mean at the nonprofit?

SPEAKER_01 42:51

I thought y'all were sounding close. Cause then cheap ass leggings from fucking China ain't set with the ugly ass logo.

SPEAKER_00 42:57

Right.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

Storyline ass business. I just I hate the seasonal, just one season ass businesses. Can we can we try to start something to stay in a bowl? Something that requires a little seed funding? Like if you don't do it, do it right. Hire me. Hire Babson.

SPEAKER_03 43:12

Well, my thing is like I don't need like every single woman on every last one of these shows to be some Boss Bay businesswoman CEO. Like I don't like some like you know, I think when it's like a Bethany.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

It's so 2014.

SPEAKER_03 43:28

One thing, I feel like when it's like a Bethany or something where you know they are like like it's an like someone who's like actually an entrepreneur who's actually a businesswoman, it's interesting to watch and to see the process and like watch them do like go kind of how they go about it on the show. That's interesting when that's like really what they're about. But when it's someone just doing fake businesses for a storyline, it's just so it's like it's just so annoying. It makes me I've never been someone who fast forwards through like scenes on Housewise, but sometimes I get tempted to during those types of scenes with like an obviously fake business. Venture.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Right. I'm like, okay, girl. I mean, I like when it's interesting. Like embellish was cute, the hatch with the satin lining. Yeah. But I'm sure he just got undercut and bitches were finding cheaper pieces in China. But she should have at least tried to continue that. Do you know switch up the design, do something seasonal? But we all know Robin Lacey. She can't even wake up her kids for school. But you're right. At least can you sell something that I can I could buy? Like, well, at least the Marlowe has a tequila that I can't find in any fucking liquor stores. I love tequila. But could someone come up with I don't know. A video game? A couple a brand of teas.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

Did I tell you? I can't remember. I have to go look. I can't remember the like the name off the top of my head, but I tell you my my mom for my birthday, she got she brought me tequila home from Mexico.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

Okay. I didn't see your Instagram.

SPEAKER_03 44:50

Oh, okay. And I I'm I might have to I might have to bring it for the pregame on our little trip coming up here. Okay, girl. I haven't tasted it, but she said it's strong.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

Oh. I think you put a knot in your fucking luggage.

SPEAKER_03 45:07

Well, I I think I I think I I think I can get it. I think I can get it there. I think I can get it there.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Well, it it is a short little trip for you. A little gallivant.

SPEAKER_03 45:18

A little gallivant down to down to the Los Angeles. Um But before we before we kind of transition into the next topic, kind of my final thoughts on Potomac right now. I really want because this this bitch, Ashley Darby, she's really pissing me off because she is so jealous of Stacy and it's so obvious. And it's like I feel like it's because Stacy is like she's like an educated, smart, successful, like self-made woman. While Ashley got like plucked out of the trailer park by some gross, perverted old man. And the all the only thing she ever did was that right was like her two brain cells managed to come up with the idea to pop up two cash registers before he got born with her. Um and and she upgraded Sheila from you know a tent on the roadside to a house, so I'll give her that. But like Angel said, she was a bottle girl looking for a comma. Yeah, and she got it, but it's like it's like girl, you didn't even last that long in your in your little penthouse in the sky before he got bored and moved on to some claims.

SPEAKER_01 46:33

And I know my uh if there's a any divorce on the outside where I think Sawadi got shafted, it is that one because I think Michael Darby is unfortunately a very smart and connected ass man, and a very rich ass man, and a very sneaky ass man.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

I I I'm actually gonna be like Kayfett in 15 years. So there's that's that.

SPEAKER_03 46:55

I hope Sheila's got that tent in storage for her daughter in 15 years.

SPEAKER_01 46:59

You know what? That's crazy. Do you think Dean and Dylan hang out with their siblings, like their 30-year-old siblings?

SPEAKER_03 47:07

No, I don't think so. I don't I'm not even convinced they hang out with their father at this point. Now the divorce is final.

SPEAKER_01 47:14

Do you think those kids even like send a present? Are they just like, I don't care. That's what I was thinking about.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

I don't think I don't think those kids want anything to do with Ashley or them kids.

SPEAKER_01 47:23

Well, we know Ashley's daddy didn't send a present because she wasn't even listed in the obituary, neither were Dylan R.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

Well, I mean, we could have guessed it.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

But if you watch the show, you know, it's part for the course with their relationship. That I don't know why she felt the need to share that, but she should she should have showed up to the she should have showed up to the funeral with the Bravo cameras anyway. Just to be a bit. Like I think that was like she's bag.

SPEAKER_03 47:47

Just like she showed up at the front door with the Bravo cameras. Right. All them years ago.

SPEAKER_01 47:51

I think she should have tried at the funeral and put it on TV. That would have kept her another season.

SPEAKER_03 47:56

Right. That that that would have been a moment. That could that could have even gotten her first chair, maybe, at the reunion. Um but yeah, I mean K might accidentally get first chair beefing with everybody. But just about after it. I mean, what whatever whatever Ashley Darby is getting paid, she's getting paid too much. And I also think that ICE is being paid too much because why are they gonna because let's talk about this? Y'all know about ICE. Y'all know what I'm talking about. Um I'm not talking about it.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Well, Ice Bites. And I was like, wait, I know the agenda of the episode. We're not talking about ice bites.

SPEAKER_03 48:31

No, we are talking about ice, which is basically like a domestic terrorism organization, if you ask me. Um but so let like this this this gagged me. So this is from the New Republic. Um, they were saying, so ICE spent 700% more on weapons. What they bought will terrify you. Um so they said Donald Trump is arming his mass immigration agents with increasingly lethal weapons. So it says here, President Donald Trump is reportedly spending millions more on weapons for his mass militia descending on American cities who will now have access to guided missile warheads. Which I'm like, why do they need that?

SPEAKER_01 49:12

Right? That's not like something you don't need on Grand Death Armo. But you get anyway.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

Well they I swear, I they they want to be the NYPD so bad. Like they they really want to be the NYPD so bad. But the thing is, at least with the NYPD, like they don't wear these damn maps, they don't wear these damn ski masks. You get to see like some fine Dominican mess every now and again.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

You went to New York once now. You talking about the NYPD, like you run into the wild.

SPEAKER_03 49:38

And I learned a lot in my days in New York. I learned a lot. You didn't lose a phone, so um, but also this so this this really made me a little pissed off. Um this made me glad I went to the protest the other day because clearly I was protesting the right thing.

SPEAKER_01 49:55

Um as you said.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

There you go, as you said. In the last nine months, ISA spent a whopping$71 million on purchases of small arms ordnance and ordnance accessories manufacturing.$71 million is insane in nine months. Oh, that is and they put one thing, and they put here in comparison, um, back in 2019, I spent just$5.7 million. So we've gone from$1.7 million to s in in a year to 70, like one or whatever million in nine months.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

Oh, this is scary. They're purchasing chemical weaponry in there, for they barely need to like exist like that. Why do they need weapons? Like this is exactly what they are talking about when they're saying there are signs.

SPEAKER_03 50:53

Right, exactly. And it's just like I don't understand why I don't really understand like any logical reason why well, first of all, why we're doing any of what we're doing with ice, but also just the fact that they need to be armed so heavily, it's like they're already fucking people up with what they got. Like, do they need this? Um but it it it just really pisses me off. And this is like a little bit, you know, the rest of our topics today are like more fun, silly, whatever. This is a little bit more serious. Um but it really does like it really does like energize me though, like getting this information to where and I think it should energize anybody listening to kind of just make sure that A, you know, you are protesting, boycotting, kind of participating in whatever way is like safe for you to do so. I know, I know, um, I think being able to protest and not feel afraid is a privilege that a lot of people have, and then a lot of people don't have. Um and I think that you know, boycotting obviously for some people it is very realistic. For other people, maybe it's not so realistic just based off their own economic situation. Um, but I think if you can participate in resisting in whatever way you can, you should, and I think this should energize you, like when information like this kind of comes out and when it actually does reach our ears, because clearly they don't want us to hear about it.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

They don't want a child to be educated either, which is why they're fucking gunning the departments of education. Exactly. Read your books and read a book to a child. I don't know if you got kids or nieces and nephews or something, make sure they can read. And then you have to decipher information.

SPEAKER_00 52:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

And they're like Robin Dixon, they can't get their kids to school, do it for them.

SPEAKER_03 52:46

I I don't I don't know if you should be picking up people's kids and taking them to school.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

Well, only if it's like your niece and nephew or something.

SPEAKER_03 52:52

Not like your neighbor. Don't keep that kidnapping. Okay, okay, okay. I was about to say don't don't be going and picking up if you see Robin Dixon's kids walking to school, just leave them be.

SPEAKER_01 53:08

Okay, well let's let's talk about something and then do what? Should we just give Nikki for time?

SPEAKER_03 53:15

Yeah, let's skip that. Okay, I'll I'll cut this part out, but we'll skip that. Alright. Um on to another topic that's really not funny, but is actually very serious. Um, but also kind of funny just in the just in the ridiculousness of it. I mean it's a little like, oh Right. Well, and we were kind of talking about this earlier about how everyone's kind of catching strays like it like these last few days, like every celebrity's getting it. And right now, I'm sure you did not think you did not expect to hear these two names together, but Tyler the Creator and Bella Hadid, they're both getting it right now over racism of all things.

SPEAKER_01 53:51

Right. And then it it really started because of one of each other. It started with Tyler, and then they got stuff of Tyler and Bella together, and then they started going into Bella's background. So it really was Tyler opening his big old mouth that got both of them clocked here, but the basis of this is Tyler the Creator being frustrated and liking tweets about oh, I hate my fan base. I'm trying to educate them about black music and the truth, but they're not landing, they don't care about it. Whatever, whatever. Which if you don't know, he has a very historically, like, I don't know, cringy white boy. Oh like I've never liked Tyler the Creator, like there's some music I create appreciate, but the humor aesthetic was never really right, and that's recent, I didn't say 2025. But historically, it's always seemed like I don't know, cringe white boy humor. I don't know. Or just like bisexual, odd artsy boy, I guess a lot of aesthetics and esoteric shit that just wasn't me. And the music was you know very hit or miss. It wasn't really you know for me, but I definitely knew the fan base there and I was like, oh, I thought that's what he liked. He liked twit. And people always talk about how he likes like white twigs and that's his type, and and Jalen Smith. I was always like, oh, that's who you want to make music for. But then I noticed this most more recent music has been a little, you know, for the people. Like he joined the Black Senior Union in his senior year, and now he's oh my god, this one tweet is crazy. And whose fault is that besides his own? Like, y'all pretend like that nigga wasn't a self-hating incel in the beginning of his career. He can re-rent all he wants, but that's his true cult following. Oh wow. Right. And that is that goes out to Bei Hanjo, B-E-Y-H-O-N-G-A-O to g accredit them. But I mean, that's essentially how I feel. They put it into more statistic words.

SPEAKER_03 55:38

Well, and I think and and the that's the thing, is I feel like I think Tyler the Creator, like, this is on a I feel like this is on a more he's on a like a larger scale, it's more I think more famous. But like you see this too with like maybe like online content creators and stuff that maybe used to do like very offensive humor or used to do very offensive like rage bait type shit. It's kind of like if you and you know, Tyler the Creator at the beginning of his career, his music was it was like very like just like very just like kind of cringe, violent, just throwing out slurs, throwing out anything that was kind of like offensive or inflammatory or whatever. That was like his music, and it's kind of like you know, you can't really build up that kind of fan base and then be mad about the fan base that it's kind of like with bitches like with the algorithm, you built the algorithm brick by brick, honey. Now you're mad.

SPEAKER_01 56:29

Right? Oh my, I'm just looking at some of these tweets. I I don't even want to read these. They're kind of ridiculous. One of them was Kelly Pete on a fucking channel and got away with it. That is the most swagged out shit I've ever heard in my life. Like, what the hell? That is dated February 3rd, 2011. Ha ha ha, some black chick works here. Affirmative nigga. Dated May 8th, 2011. This one, I can't even say the words. It's crackers, N-word tardiar, Asian slur, Hispanic slur. Come on, nigga, let's fucking vote. 7 28 2011.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 57:03

And this is to advertise himself for video of the year. It's not like saying vote with the election. No, it's vote for video of the year. Because I understand, like, oh, he's promoting elections. Okay, no, it was 2011.

SPEAKER_00 57:13

He was doing a lot of 2011.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

He was doing a lot of 2011. Oh no, and then there's still some 2014. So one of the Black History Month. It's just a lot.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

Well, very like Edgelord shit. Very edge lord type shit.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Exactly. His his whole, like I said, that person said, very incel brand coded, like, I don't know, closeted incels or incel gays that think they're bisexual. Is that messy to say?

SPEAKER_03 57:40

No, it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 57:41

This is a safe space. That's his brand. Oh, he has to do Bella Hadid when she had her old face.

SPEAKER_03 57:51

Not her old face. Back when she was being starved to death in Yolanda's household.

SPEAKER_01 57:58

And she also had just as crazy tweets. Got all my black bitches mad because my main bitch Vanilla. Is this a song lyric or she's just saying that?

SPEAKER_03 58:05

I don't know what she meant by that. I don't I really don't. She when like her honestly, her tweets are very much like I feel like that's the thing is whenever these like girl, like girls like her, like uh have like a scandal like this where like old racist tweets come up. It's always um it's always like the same type of shit. Like you know what I mean? Like the tweets always look exactly the same. It's just like it's like some fucking like random lyrics with the N-word and some cringy ass jokes, like just kind of like mixed up. I have not seen that photo. I I even like looking at this shit today, I haven't seen that photo. I must end it to you.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

The color's actually pretty. They could have just done anything else. They could have just done anything else. Let's let's say that's a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 59:09

Oh wow, and I mean that's like with her newer face too, so this isn't that old. Yeah, well, apparently it's like 2016. Well, it looks like there's other white girls doing wearing the same shit behind her.

SPEAKER_01 59:19

Yeah, I guess this was just what they were going for. So we can't totally blame her for that.

SPEAKER_03 59:25

Yeah, but I mean Bella Hadid, I mean it looks like she's just she kept them in and was walking around. Well, I mean, it's not like she it's not like she's some like up and coming, it's not like she's some model that needed to beg for jobs and do whatever they told her to do. Like you she could be she could be selective about her job if she wanted to be.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

I know she wanted to wear them dreads. You know, why does it feel like white teenager need to go through this phase? Why is it Eddie just be a racist ass bitch? Like you can't, I don't know, you can't bully dogs or something? That has to be black people?

SPEAKER_03 59:56

What I noticed, um I noticed in a discussion thread on Reddit of all places about this. Um I noticed something interesting that people were pointing out is that um is that a lot of people, like a lot of the fans or people that defend these celebrities when they have these scandals, they that they in a lot of ways they try to like normalize this. Like basically you said, like, like, oh, every every white teenager has a racist face. Um isn't that okay? Well, I think, yeah, and like it's like they're kind of trying to normalize it and make it like oh it's just it's just normal, it's whatever. And it's kind of like and it's and like it's kind of there's always kind of the added there's always the added like thing of like, oh she was 16 years old, and it's like okay, but I mean like at 16 years old, like you're not like you're not completely like brain dead, like you like you I feel like you kind of like you know some things, you're a little bit aware. Um what also and like the thing is is it's like if you and if you are if you are a bellhead even if you did something like this, like either I don't know, either be smart enough to fucking clear your socials when you become famous, um or like apologize for the shit instead of like having to get called out for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

The damn mess. I wonder if Bella's gonna do an iOS note press release or chat GPT statement.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:23

She'll probably just ignore it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:24

I know she's not because I'm she's like, oh why am I in there?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:28

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:29

It was just because they were picking up Tyler's shit and they were just like, oh look what I found too, bitch.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:34

Literally, literally. They they just have they just kind of like happened to find her mess while looking at Tyler's mess. That would that would piss that would piss me off if like someone that I was like loosely associated with was in the middle of some drama and suddenly I somehow got dragged into it because someone found a fucking tweet from 2014. I'd be like, uh excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:56

I know she is upset. But you reap what you sell how how's that nigga? Until I said that. I feel like you want Cersei to know what was here? A little bit, a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:14

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:15

Well, I mean I'm in agreement with the popular consciousness that, oh, with Bella and Tyler's kind of reaping what he settled. Right, well, honestly, I feel like not falling off. I don't I mean, I feel like the he needs are definitely not at their peak. I feel like I don't know, the late 2010s, like they were running shit. Now it's just like I guess they were in the Victoria's Secret show, but I heard more press about Angel Reese than about them. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:43

Well, yeah, no, I d I think, you know, it's just it's just whatever, you know, like like Bella, well what's interesting to me is I feel like cause a lot of the screenshots of her like when you look a lot of the screenshots of her old tweets, like and you know, maybe she did clear out her Twitter at some point, I don't know. But when you look at the screenshots of her whole post, like these are like the old ass like interfaces for these social media platforms. So these are screenshots that have like existed for years, you know. Like it's not it's not like when someone brings up old tweets and it's like the modern fucking X interface, like these are like old ass mid 2010s like interfaces and stuff. So it's like these tweets have these screenshots have existed for years, they're just happening to go viral now.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:27

Oh yeah, but this TI's been out, like I said on a Tumblr page or something somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:33

Right. Well, and that's the thing is usually I feel like I feel like this happens though a lot, like whenever like a celebrity gets cancelled, and it be kind of com it becomes like more part of the public consciousness or part of the general public's consciousness, like what you will see is it's like, oh, this tea's been out there for a long time. It's just a lot of people have just been pretending it doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:56

Not the ballie.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:58

Well, I mean you see that a lot though when like someone gets canceled but it's like someone's fave. Like, you know, if like if if like you're if like if like one of the pop girls that people like gets canceled for like something really fucked up, like I don't know, they said something racist or they were like transphobic or like homophobic or whatever. Like usually what you'll see is people will kind of like ignore it and then be quiet and then like wait a little bit and then like once the next like good single comes out, they'll protect they'll act like they have no idea what you're talking about if you bring it up. You'll but oh oh you are you don't don't you don't you remember don't you remember when she said the n-word and they're like what are you talking about, Robin?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

But the the haters, the anti-stands, they're gonna keep their receipt, they're gonna hold on to that shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:37

Oh yeah, you know, I have my whole folder on Belcalese. Every time her fans try to celebrate a win, I'm gonna reminder. I'ma say, here here's here's this girl's asshole. Oh Lord. And here's this girl say is here's this girl saying disparaging thing about ch this things about children.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:59

But we know she does that.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:01

I I I'm I'm just a professional hater, and that's fine. That that that's my that's my reputation.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:08

And I'm the professional pacifist.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:13

Maybe on the camera. You know what? You lying ass bitch. I'm gonna laugh at you like I'm Wendy, like I'm Dr. Wendy.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:24

Oh, and I'm I might hit you like I'm Kiara. I might chin check you like I'm Kiarna. I don't know. I mean we have the same size apartment. I might no husband. I might be Kiarna. I don't want a men spa though.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:37

Well, well you know, we're gonna have our trip soon. We'll be I'm sure we'll be sitting on a bench at some point flipping each other off. Maybe on our hike.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

Kelly Farrow from R HOA has hired Faint Parks to represent her in a court battle. Well, good luck with that, Kelly.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:56

Well, and I think on that note, that's a good place to end the current events. Episode. I think we're good. I think we're done. We're done here. Thank y'all for listening to yet another episode of the On a Real Note Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:09

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SPEAKER_03 1:06:13

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