Remembering My Own ft. Carter & Jon

MTV’s My Own was a short lived dating competition built around superfans competing to impersonate their favorite celebrities in trivia performances and surreal challenges that blurred sincerity and satire

We interview two contestants from the Omarion episode to unpack how the show actually worked from casting tto filming and what it actually felt like behind the scenes on the set of a 2000s MTV reality show

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Welcome back, No Takers. We are here with yet another interview episode. And I'm very excited to get into it with both John and Carter because they were on the show My Own, which took 20 years ago, MTV took that unscripted genre by storm with a series of shows that we all know and love. But one that people constantly forget, and I think is very underrated was My Own. A dating show premiered in January 2006 and was focused on an obsessed fan of a specific celebrity. In this case, the episode we're talking about was Omarion, but it featured many celebrities, even some such as Beyonce, Rihanna. And they must select a romantic partner from a group of professional impersonators, replicating that celebrity's look, voice, and performance style. The series ran for one season for 12 episodes, each dedicated to a different celebrity idol. Wild concept. But John Carter, thank you so much for being here with us.

SPEAKER_04 0:58

Thank you guys. Welcome, welcome.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

You know, really appreciate having you. I you know, I'd posted a TikTok about my own actually a couple years ago, and Carter, you had come on and responded to it because you wanted to post your own experience. So it was so cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

So appreciate you reaching out, but just by a butt, fluke, it was all because of that. What were you doing in a 90s, 2000s trend? And I was like, you know what? 2000s? I was on my own. I was on MTV. I was living in Cali. So I'm like, you know, I'm gonna dice this up and then put on uh my own. And holy that that posted very well. Uh people are like, oh my god, Carter, you gotta post up uh the episode. And then I was like, you know what, let me reminisce. I just went in this rabbit hole. I went to all YouTube's Instagrams, I just put my own MTV and Aiden, you're like top search, man. So it popped up ASAP. So thank you for posting that content and it allows us now to have a reunion today.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

Yeah, after 20 years. Yeah, it's cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

I know a lot of a lot of getting come out of a little tech talk video.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Right. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

All right, now I can say I hosted a reality TV reunion, even though not in the same vein, not in the same vein. 20 years later. 20 years later, no, but it's it's a good it's amazing you guys have you know have used our podcast to come on that and discuss the episode. But with getting it started, being on MTV, I feel like in 2006 was a much bigger accomplishment than maybe in 2026. I feel like a lot more notoriety, a lot cooler, but fun fact. So I want you to walk us through step by step for both of you how you ended up even auditioning. Like what was the entry point for either of you like actively in the entertainment industry, like going on auditions? How does this work?

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Well, I can just go real quick. Um, well, I I was trying to be um get into the entertainment industry, so I was like going to auditions everywhere. Like I was I was Google freaking BT, MTV, auditions, like all types of reality shows. So I auditioned for um to uh it was 50 cent show, Get Rich or Die Trying. Yeah, I remember that. You have like a brand.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Yeah, it was like Apprentice S, right?

SPEAKER_03 3:03

Kind of like that, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. And then um I auditioned for um becoming B2K. And uh that's where they um so basically I I took one of my friends with me just to like ride along, but he ended up getting my fucking spot. Oh dad. What the heck? Oh, that's how it goes. Yeah, and I was so pissed. I was like, what? Like I like because I was auditioning for a Marion for the B2K because the becoming was like you basically lived a life for them for one day. So you shoot the music video and so forth and all that. You go shopping, and but he ended up getting the the ro the spot. So then, like, I want to say like a year later, I just got a phone call like from MTV, like, hey, we have this new show, blah, blah, blah. I know you tried out for a Marion a couple years ago. We'd like you to join. So I was like, all right, freaking cool. So my drive down there wasn't for nothing, you know. So gotcha. Yeah, I auditioned. Oh, I didn't even audition, actually, because I technically the B the becoming audition was my audition, you know.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

So gotcha. So yeah, they had you in the files. They're like, well, I'll get back to him. And they they actually did. That's cool. And then how about you, Carter?

SPEAKER_01 4:04

I completely the opposite. I I was not in the entertainment uh industry at all. Um, I was in California living, uh going to school. Uh I I my sister lived in Orange County and I was there for school. And uh I was working part-time at Abercrombie and Fitch at South Coast Plaza, Costa Mesa. And my coworker goes to me, he's like, Hey, yo, do you have a car? I'm like, Yeah. He's like, I got yeah, day off. I'm like, yeah, tomorrow. He's like, let's go to MTV. I gotta, we gotta audition for this show.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

You know, I'm not gonna go to the MTV. Like, I thought it was like, you know, I'm like, you're just I mean, yeah, it sounded. And I explained it to him and he was like, oh no, it's cool. So then, you know, so then I um I, you know, I took off of work and went down there. And uh yeah, I don't know if you want me to continue, wait for him to see I go I can wait for him so he can, you know, say his little piece or yeah, we we can wait for him, but I feel like in the meantime, I'm actually very curious since you did an audition for this show.

SPEAKER_00 5:05

What was the kind of auditional interview process like for becoming? Like, did you like set on audition tape for that? Or were you like already in their pool from previous reality shows?

SPEAKER_03 5:13

No, actually, we um we had to go down there and then they first asked you a whole bunch of questions. I forgot what the questions was, and then they had you perform for the producers. So you know it turned on B2K and you had to like do dance and all that crap, you know.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Oh, so then they wanted like vocals, they wanted uh kind of a little bit but I got a fun way. They wanted like entertainment of the colour.

SPEAKER_03 5:37

Even when they shot the the actual, like when they did the show, the guys who got picked, like my friend, they actually were singing and rapping, and it was pretty cool. Like that one was because they they lived the lights for them for a day. Like they they had the limo, they took them shopping, they kept all the clothes. That's like when sidekicks were in. So they uh they gave them sidekicks, like it was it was pretty cool, you know. Then they shot the video and then they uh went home, but they didn't get paid. They just that's a different like for the uh my own show. We got like as you as you each time you advance, you got paid, you know, a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

Yeah, it's okay, that kinda makes sense, kind of incentivizes you to do something. But that was gonna be one of the questions. Like, do you guys get paid for this experience? It's just like flat full fee stipend. So good to know you were compensated for your time.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

Oh yeah, no, so like if you if you make it to like if you get late, if you got kicked off the first round, then like they gave you a couple hundred. And then if you get kicked off on the second round, you get a little bit more than the first person, and then if you made it to the third, yeah, you got even more. And if you were the guy that got picked, then you even got more money, you know. So it was pretty cool. Yeah, I was surprised. I was like, oh shit, y'all paid? Hell yeah. It was cool. It was like it was, it was I think it was like if the first round, I think you got um well, I'm the complete opposite.

SPEAKER_01 6:55

I am not in entertainment, I wasn't adult. I was working part-time at Abercrombie and Fitch. I was in California for school, living with my sister, and my coworker comes to me and is like, hey man, uh, do you have a car? I'm like, yeah. He's like, Do you have a day off tomorrow? I'm like, yeah. It's like, hey, let's go to MTV. It's auditioned for the show. It's called My Own. I was like, all right, let's roll. Like, I have a bit of a performing arts kind of experience in high school, like acting, drama class, choir, and all that. So I'm like, ah, I could kick it, right? Uh so I get there, it's like 500 dudes, like surfer dudes, white guys, tanned up, pop collar, uh, tank tops. I was like, all right. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know, I don't know if this is uh I have a chance at this at all, but they put us in a row of five guys and they just shoot us questions. Uh, they made me sing. Uh, and I originally was auditioning for the Kelly Clarkson episode. I was actually supposed to be the dude of the day there, yeah. Yeah, Kelly Clarkson. And you know what's crazy? I had Kelly Clarkson the week before at a bowling alley. I had a selfie with her. It's crazy. So I was like, okay, I got a little upper edge on there.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Wait, was Kelly predetermined for that? Or was it kind of were they asking, like, oh, are you obsessed with any celebrity?

SPEAKER_01 8:13

No, the Kelly Clarkson. So that episode is like, oh yeah, this is the episode for Kelly Clarkson. So they had for the auditions, they had pre-populated all the artists and everyone, right? So uh then about maybe uh three weeks later, I get a call from M MTV on my Samsung flip phone, and uh he's like, Yeah, you made it, but we don't want you for Kelly Clarkson. You're gonna be one of the dudes that's in the Omarion B2K episode.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

So, what's your first reaction to that?

SPEAKER_01 8:44

I was like, what? I'm Asian. I don't know how am I gonna be uh qualified for uh Omarion dude? So I was like, oh my god. So I remember going on my computer after and hitting up Google and like researching Omarion and B2K. It's like, all right, he's from Inglewood. Um I listened to that song bump up. I knew that song was big at the time. It was on like TRL and like heavy rotation, but um, yeah, no, Omarion. I was like, okay, I know a little bit about him, but uh yeah, I had to do uh some research. I did a little homework, yes. Right homework.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Well, it showed in the trivia round because you you you're going two for two. I did one for two. Either way, you got through it. Yeah, my favorite part was when he was like, Inglewood.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

Ingle wood.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

And I thought John was going all the way because he he he knew like, oh my god, like he this dude got the cornrose like O'Mario on. We're all done. John was one for sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

And John, you know you're trivia. I did not know that when Marquez they were like Marcus House.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

I didn't know. But basically, uh before we even went to that that portion of the show, didn't they give us like a little study guide or something in the they did.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

They had a little like fun facts about Amario.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Yeah, gotcha. Okay, so it was like a little pop quiz before class, like it was like a little study. One, two, three.

SPEAKER_03 10:09

What is this for? We didn't even know what we're gonna do next. We're just like, what is this for me? Just like just go over it and you know, make sure you know a little bit about him. You're like, all right, so gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

That makes sense. I was wondering whatever production trickery they had afoot. But you want to take a step back, John. You mentioned them like calling you for this show specifically. So was it pitched exactly as like the show was where they're like, oh, you'll be you know my own, you'll be for Amarion. This is exactly what it is. Or was it more vague?

SPEAKER_03 10:34

Oh no, they said that it was like a um, there was like it was a they basically explained the show as a super fan who's who wants to pick their own Amarion, so you're all be competing, dancing, blah, blah, blah, to to be their own Omarion. Um, but I did hear something about her saying that they didn't tell her that. Did you read hear about that, Carter, or no?

SPEAKER_01 10:52

I saw that too. She did comment on my YouTube post and she made it sound like she was gonna meet Omarion. And I do belie I do believe we thought that maybe we might be meeting Omarion too. Right? We thought we're we thought maybe the winner would get to like go kick it with them or something, but none of that happened.

SPEAKER_03 11:08

Oh, poor Britannia, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess she told I guess she was saying that um she didn't know it was a dating show. It was like she thought it was like guys competing to be him, and she was just judging to see who was the guy.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

Okay, so for some people they may have not gotten the full picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

But yeah, they they pretty much told me exactly what you mean.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Especially the quote unquote obsessed one, which makes sense. A lot of those sets seemed very over the top and dramatic, but I mean MTV 2000's reality shows we obviously now know are fake, but then you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Center realism to it. But I'm assuming they set up all those Amarion posters and the other one's even her room.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Right. Yeah, but guys, I gotta say the production of that studio was major. Like, John, do you remember walking into that studio? It was huge. It was Hollywood Studio. This they had multiple sets. Yeah, the the place where she's sitting is like all lit up, like MTV in the 2000s. Yeah, top quality production, I'm telling you. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Oh no, no, of course. I'm sure they had a very streamlined. So, you know, walk us through that. So, how long after being called, finalized for the casting process, do you go to filming and and how is that situation? Is filming all in one day? How does it all go?

SPEAKER_03 12:18

It was, I want to say well, it was like a week. Three days. It was yeah, it was three days, yeah. And then they picked, they had a limo. If you live far, they had a limo pick you up. And like it was it was cool. And then my driver, he was like some young, like hood gangster guy. It's like he was all like smoking weed. And I'm just like, what the hell? I mean, I'm like nine, I think I was like 20, like 2010, just like what the hell? And then he stopped by Denny's, he was like, Oh, real little earl, we're gonna go eat. Blah blah blah. Sure, right? Why not? It was just funny. Like, he was he was cool though, but I was just like, okay. I was kind of scared at first. I'm like, is this the right thing? You're like this right, like this this ITV or something else. Comfortable with me, he was just like, Oh, you mind? Like, uh, like, yeah, this is your car, you know. Yeah, and then we went to the the studio, so it was cool.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Yeah, my limo was like uh I remember it was a Russian mobster type dude. He's like, Oh, I remember I brought my Kodak, you know, camera. I was like, I was like, I got something to take some pictures to me going to MTV. I was taking pictures inside the limo, and he's like, hey, you must be quiet to be secret or something. I thought I thought he was maybe like like uh trying to be on the DL running from the law or something type deals. But uh, I think the coolest part of that MTV production is they had a cameraman come to my house, my place, and they did uh the guy's basic is like, hey, we're doing MTV Cribs type interviews, so just kick it and show off. And uh that's where I'm like talking about my cooking skills and getting the roads in my bedroom and all that. So I think that was one of the funnest parts. But uh yeah, the limo rides uh to the studio was great. I lived in Orange County, so it was about an hour and a half.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

So gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

Oh wow, LA traffic sucks, as you know, Noah John Ray. Like you're just chilling in this big limo, and uh yeah, I was I was feeling like a superstar. It was good.

unknown 14:09

Right?

SPEAKER_03 14:11

You can just chill on the back. I know you're not driving, so it was cool. Yeah, and I and I lived in um I lived in the inland empire during that time, so it was like an hour and a half drive too. So yeah, it was it was cool because he wasn't driving and it was just kicked back, you know, and just chill. And then mentioning the um the coming to the the the house for the filming for like the crib style, that was pretty cool too, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Oh, you know, I was gonna ask those little video intro packages. I wasn't sure if they like had filmed those afterwards or you got to create them yourselves, but it's cool to know that they came and filmed though. So that was before you guys had the three-day filming, or was it after?

SPEAKER_03 14:45

It's before, yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

unknown 14:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

One that I was curious as far as the actual production side of it goes, like, how much were you guys kind of getting tips? Were they kind of giving you prompts, ideas, kind of like, oh, you should do this, you should do that, or were they just completely just like just go for it, say whatever you want to say?

SPEAKER_03 15:07

I think they let us say whatever we want to say. They really wasn't giving us too many like any type of guidance, especially when it came to the house. It was basically just be yourself, like when you're at home, what do you do? What do you like, like things like that. So we're basically just being ourselves. And then the only time they really did kind of guide us was with the study guide, just about the question. Other than that, the rest of the show, it was pretty much like us, like we were just we had ourselves. Yeah, so it was cool.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Okay. Oh, John, my I was a bit different. They actually wanted me to cause some beef with uh the white dude, Brett. Oh, they did? I didn't know. Uh yeah, what do you think about Brett? What do you think about his uh his chances are? And I'm like, oh, he has no chances and he smells.

SPEAKER_00 15:49

Oh, so you're you were playing it up, you were ready.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

I was playing it up, man, because I watched The Bachelor. This is like The Bachelor, man. There's gonna be a little drama, a little geek, right? Yeah, we doubt yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:01

They didn't show, they didn't, they didn't um show any of that on the actual show because we did have like confessionals. I do remember them now, and then we asked us about different they'll ask us about each different uh member, and then yeah, they're like, What do you think about this guy?

SPEAKER_01 16:13

And then you sure like text there's all one huge part they never put in John. Remember they took us to like the carnival before and we got to hang out with her friends and we had like a group date type deal.

SPEAKER_03 16:23

Like we competed against like the little what is that dance machine the when you dance in yeah, yeah, dance. Yeah, so we were like they didn't show any of that like a whole day doing that shit, and it was like long.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

I don't know why they didn't put any of it, right? So yeah, MTV will shoot a lot of B roll. There's a lot of B-roll that they do, then they're like, hey, you know what? It's not gonna work, or we don't have enough time for this. So, but yeah, that was a full day of shooting. But it we we were having a great time, John. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was fun.

SPEAKER_04 16:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

You guys had fun on their diet. Yeah, it makes sense. The show only was like, you know, after commercials and stuff, about 22 minutes when airing. So there's only so much that they could put in. So much on the cutting room floor. Yeah, which is why I was surprised that you guys had filmed for three days. I thought it was just like a one-day shoot or something. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

And it was like, oh, I was happy though, because I got to because I got eliminated later on. And uh I was actually pretty happy. I was like, bad. I am uh I'm all done. I'm gonna be on MTV. That was because I talked to I talked to uh a Nick uh Johnny is like, you're so lucky, man. We had to stay like an extra night, and and uh I I was like, no, I was good. I actually took the limo back and I uh got my limo driver to stop off at In N Out. So I had a double double animal style at the limo on the way home just to like top it all off. I was feeling really hard with there, right? Uh just like Michael B. Jordan, right? So there you go. I was the trend center there.

SPEAKER_03 17:48

Yeah, because after the second day, like that third day, uh, I was drained because the days were like literally like I want to say like eight or nine hours, right? Like they were long. So that third was very long.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

TV work is like a lot of hours, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

I don't think I'm gonna do it. Hurry up and wait. Yeah, no, I heard there's a lot of hurry up and wait, lots of early call times, but you don't need to be there for actually that early. And yeah, it was wearing the same outfit because they need to reposition you. Yeah, I couldn't.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

Yeah, because they kept they kept our clothes, right? I remember they kept our the the clothes.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Yeah, and then they were like and we styled ourselves too, John. Like your our all our outfits we did on our own. So yeah, because I remember you had like the camo tank top. I was dressed in American apparel. I was like, okay, I'm gonna look like a colorful, uh uh, you know, entertaining kind of guy here. So I was like, I'm gonna go pop collar, American pot apparel, orange shirt, green polo. That's how I was rocking, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

Yeah, so I took the standout.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:47

You could have the round. You were you were eliminated the was it the second round or yeah, second round. I may pass the past the first, but uh surprised because I thought you it was I thought it was gonna be me, you, and Nick. I didn't know the the what's the name? Brit, the white guy.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Breton for the the heat, the drama. So I I was uh I was middle ground guy. Yeah, so I I knew my I knew my time was out, but I was uh I was happy to go. I already had my 15 minutes and uh you know and then after so so after the show, I'm going back to my Abercrombie and Fitch shift. I'm getting little Asian girls coming up to me and saying hello and asking for autographs. So I was definitely uh I had my 15 minutes and I was definitely noticed uh at South Coast Plaza for two months going forward at my Abercrombie and Fitch shift.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

So it was uh it was asked because MTV 2006 is big. I bet a lot of people are watching it. It's like probably were you getting like messages, calls? Like, was that you at MTV? I had a couple hours.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

I went to the DMV to um like renew my license or something, and I saw like two little teenage like black girls. They was like, that's the guy that Marion died. Like that's back when you know B2K and Marion was like big, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

Well, and just nowadays in general, I mean reality TV, it's so oversaturated, viewership is so down. Like you can do a show and people are gonna have no idea who the hell you are. You're not gonna get recognized anyway. Right, right, exactly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

No, everyone had uh of my own never shared on got aired in Canada because in Canada that time we didn't have MTV. So what I did was I took my VHS dub that was dubbed from VHS, and that's how we got it on YouTube. I put on the YouTube, and then I would just I I emailed the YouTube link to my friends in Canada, and it just got blown up. But I did have one friend maybe in 2011. He's like in a hotel room in Iceland in Europe, and he's like, Oh my god, I had to call you. You're on MTV right now in Iceland in 2011. I was like, wow. So, John, we're uh we were on rotation all over the world. Yeah, somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

It was, yeah. Pop up, it would just pop like the show would just pop up anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

Yeah, right. I don't know. It's the power of MTV's catalog. They own so much now. I mean, they could decide tomorrow they want to put the episode on Paramount Plus, so it could be reactivated. Who knows? Yeah, John.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

I hope we get royalties if that happens, right? We're gonna get royalties, yeah. Checks in the mail. Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

These actors now don't even get royalty. They give up two dollars for like the copy showing.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Right for streaming. Scarlett Johansson had to sue for that. Like, oh yeah, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 21:29

So yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

But yeah, the jump back to filming really quickly. Like, did they give you insight to the tone of the show? Because the show was very like dramatic, over-the-top comedic. Like, were they encouraging you to do a little bit of improv comedy or were they kind of leaving you to figure it out yourself?

SPEAKER_03 21:46

No, I think everyone like like Carter, everybody was Carter because he was like funny. So everybody was just doing themselves, actually. And then the other guy, the white guy, he was he was just like more of the I don't know about how to say it, but he just like would do just the wild car. Yeah. Like I did just start doing the worm on the ground.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

We're like, what the hell are you doing? Like he was just being silly, right? He was like uh he was like screech from the uh hit by the bell. Exactly. Yeah, that was his character, right? Yeah, but I felt too John. I felt bad for the two dudes that got kicked out in the first round because the Jesse and then the bigger dude were like they they were so nervous. Oh yeah. They were like, yeah, right? The bigger dude because he had to show his he had to show his abs, but he had a belly. You know, I was like, I got a belly too. So that's when I was like, hey, you had fun with it, you owned it. I got I gotta brace the kegger, right? But the other guy was like, I remember he was super like Hollywood serious, like he was like a young Denzel Washington or something. He's like, Oh, he was so serious.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

You shouldn't have done the show then. Yeah, like being something else. I was like, dude, just be what else, like who cares? Like, just do whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

So yeah, that's he got kicked off. He was he had mad attitude. He's like, What? I didn't it was so bad. He's like, What you clowns got through?

SPEAKER_00 23:02

I was like, that's probably why they knew you're too serious, you're not a bud. It's uh unserious show.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

Yeah, he's probably like, how this Asian guy got through and I'm black.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

I will say that seemed to be their bet on that show to maybe cause controversy or get the fans angry. Because I remember watching the Rihanna episode as a kid, and one of the final three girls, like this Latina girl with a thick accent. And I just remember I was very young when the show came on. I probably shouldn't have been watching it. But I was like, no, that's not Rihanna, she's not Rihanna, she can't even sing SOS. I was just very, very upset, very frantic. So it seemed like that was part of their bit. Like throwing a wild card, somebody doesn't look the part, racially unmatching, which part for the course in MTV in 2006. Yeah, right. So interesting that they didn't they did it again in the air episode. That was definitely probably their production stuff.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

If you look at MTV, they're pumping out as many reality shows and uh content as much as possible because that that's all they have, right? They got they got away from the music videos and uh no John. I think we got in at the right time because I don't that that's not happening today. There's no auditions for MTV in 2026. So I am really proud and I'm really uh appreciative of for our time, right? So we're we're lucky. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

Well, there's still Arantine Mom in Jersey Shores, it's not gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

Well, that was, I mean, that was at that time too. Like Aiden mentioned earlier with Next and Room Raiders and stuff. Like they were just like taking, like, okay, dating show, add like some wild, silly twist to it, and just get it going, air it.

SPEAKER_03 24:42

I remember that show next. That's when they like go on dates and they just like cancel them like next.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

Yeah, yeah. They would be on the bus and get off, and they could yeah, they could next them at any point during the day, go to the next person on the bus. That one was the leader. That one got easy.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Oh, yeah, I know, right? Yeah, but it was a good time. I had a heard of a really good time, and I made it to the the last round, and then um we had to like they gave they gave us like vocal lessons. We were in the studio. Yeah, and then um we had a stylist, so that we had somebody come in, like fit us, even though my fucking outfit was just like a tank top and jeans and I mean that's what Omarion wore, though. And then um we had dance lessons, so we had to learn after learning the routine. I did the video. Um what video did I do? I forgot what video I did, but we had to I had to learn to dance. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Maybe icebox? I don't know. I'm trying to think what song was hot. That was the one. Uh uh. I'm trying to.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

I'm trying to, I'm trying to want to be with you. Yeah, that one. So we had to learn that in like 20 minutes the whole, and I was all I could.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

How much time did they give you for that?

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Yeah, 20, like it was like 20 minutes, because you know, they had to do the whole that was the last day of the show to get everything in. So I remember was like the one part, like one little part. So every time that part came on, I would just do that, but everything else I was like freestyle and just bullshit, you know. And then it was at the end of the day, so we all were super tired. They didn't give us any like energy drinks or anything, so and we had to perform. So I wasn't like a hundred percent. Yeah, it was like literally, I want to say like 5 p.m. was like the end of the day, and I was just like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

You're like ready to just pass out. I'm I wanna be in bed. I'm over I don't really think I thought about check and record.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

Yeah, so I made it to it was just me and then the last like Nick and then uh channel picture.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Yeah, yeah, like the final performance.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

Because he was dope, I ain't gonna lie, he was like pop-up dinner and shit. Like he was he did the song when he like Omarion was dancing, I forgot what it was called, but it was like a video that everybody loves. So he definitely knew the moves and everything, so he was pretty dope.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

I think sometimes you just got the showman chef.

SPEAKER_03 26:47

Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, most definitely. He definitely I think he's even like I think he he he's been in a couple of shows and everything because he was uh also trying to be, I think, an actor or something, but he actually actually been in other like actual TV shows and things like that. So he's a cool guy, right? He was pretty cool too. I think it was just me, Carter, and Nick that was like cool, like Mira. Yeah, like we were like close, and then the the other ones, especially the other guy, we're just like Brad was like, but the time it was great, it's crazy because this it was all the start of uh social media basically.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

John John, you uh we all connected through MySpace, I remember. Yeah, that's yeah, that's a start of my yeah, that's a start of MySpace, right? I remember we we would post pictures and uh yeah, and after the show, me and John kicked it. Uh I remember picking picking it up and we went we went clubbing, right? So uh yeah, John, and I so it's great to reconnect with John. I end up moving back to Canada. Um and uh yeah, no, I but I my sister ended up moving to Vegas, so uh I I got I get back to California like last time I started maybe four years ago. So uh but yeah, I still have family there and I'll go back and uh John will definitely gotta kick him, man. And when I go to Canada, I want to go visit, so I hit you up. Hey, I'll tell you all the food spots, I'll show you where where to heat at.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

He knows.

unknown 28:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

When I'm curious though, well, going into it, did you both expect to make it as far as you did? Did you think you're like, oh, I'll be out early and it'll be a quick day at work? Or like what were your expectations versus how far you both made in the competition?

SPEAKER_01 28:21

You wanna go, Carter? I was happy to make it for through the first job because uh one, no entertainment background whatsoever. Yeah. Um, and then yeah, just me being like the the only Asian guy there. I think that would and even in the all the other episodes, there's no other Asian guys, right? I guess Asian guys didn't really audition for MTV reality shows in 2000, but uh, I don't know, I did because my Abercrombie and Fitch co-worker got there. But uh no, I was just happy to make it past the first round and uh meet all of y'all. Uh it was a great experience. So I had a great time.

SPEAKER_03 28:55

Yeah, I was just happy just to get the damn call to go on the show. Shit.

SPEAKER_04 29:00

I was cool. I know it's fun.

SPEAKER_03 29:02

Yeah, and I was like, y'all paying for my gas, and I mean y'all driving me there, giving me a little couple hundred dollars, you know, a little start shaking for a day. I'm not tripping, so I was I wasn't even really tripping.

SPEAKER_00 29:14

But yeah, but I'm excited. So it's like a fun opportunity, an experience. It sounds very fun.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

Right, right. So if I if I had to leave the first round, I would have been cool. I wouldn't have been crying and all upset. I would have been like, all right, cool.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

So it's not like the show became like flavor of love. Right.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Yeah, yeah. No, but uh top-notch uh production from MTF uh MTV, they were uh very, very professional. Uh I loved all the staff. We had great makeup artists, uh the directors behind the scene people. Uh yeah, very professional. And you can tell lots of uh experience on that end. So any time, and I've been a part of like movie sets and TV shows kind of after as like extra work here and there. I'm like, man, you know, compared to MTV, MTV, like top here, man. Yeah. So I seen other, I'm like, oh my God, this is low budget. I'm like, this ain't MTV quality.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

Right, right, right. Even for our little show, they treated us like we were like actual stars, you know what I'm saying? Like it wasn't like that's nice. Oh, they just forget just some little game show. No, no, they treated us like like legit. They were really nice.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

We had like a green room with like all the all the drinks and all the all the snacks and food and all that. Kick it in. There was a PlayStation, we played some video games. I do remember that. Yeah, yeah. We were we were taken care of. It was good.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

That's I mean, that's nice to hear too, because I mean, even nowadays, you hear about these reality shows that are like they're like big productions where it's like a whole season being put together and stuff, and some of these people, the horror stories they have of just like getting treated awful on set and like the conditions that they're working in.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

Right.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:49

Especially like um, I heard that uh Zeus, like all those daddies and all that. Like I heard that all they do was give them like a couple soups, and all they do is eat like couple soups and chips and shit, like during the whole yeah, so I'm just like, yeah, all that money they make.

SPEAKER_00 31:02

The snacks and liquor, the snacks and liquor.

SPEAKER_03 31:05

Yeah, a couple soup and hot.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Yeah. Like Hennessy and Hot Pockets is not a sustainable diet. That's why they asked to be going crazy, they hungry shit. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 31:17

Yeah, but they took care of us. I uh it was a good experience, yeah. And then luckily, my um, I didn't even tape it, but one of my coworkers I used to work with, she was all like shucked. Oh my god, that's I saw you on TV and I I DV, as it Dvo, or she put it on a DVD, basically. I can DVD. Oh yeah, TVO. Yeah, I do have a DVD, but I don't even have a fucking DVD player. Right?

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Yeah, yeah, computers don't even have them. I think the closest thing I got is my PS5, has a little DVD slot, but it only plays Blu-ray.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

I don't know. That's me. So I can I can plug up the attachment.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Sean, you gotta plug that in and get get that on uh like on a on the iPhone so we get it on our phone.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

Yeah, yeah, I'll do that.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Yeah, because I haven't get the whole I want to see the whole episode because yeah, have the whole thing. I just have my YouTube channel. That's some lost needle.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

You have the whole season? Uh so that's all I have. The whole show. Wow, yeah. I want to see that Rihanna episode again. So you might have some lost needle. Oh, you're don't show, don't show, don't show. Your episode. Well, well, you know, still uh I would love to see after the other.

SPEAKER_03 32:18

I don't remember the Rihanna, I remember Pink and Um Shakira. Shakira. I remember Shakira too.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

I mean, I do when I was like going back and watching clips, that guy with like just all the pink posters on his wall and everything.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

It was they went over the top with it. Right. You know, I was gonna ask if they if MTV gave you a copy of the episode or anything, but I guess not. But did they give you a heads up when it aired, or is it just like you were on TV one day? Oh, so they just didn't even like episode out March 3rd.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

No, just you're on TV. Like once once like I saw the uh the promo for the show, and then I tried to keep up, but then the one day I didn't I wasn't thinking about it. One of my friends called out, like, um, I think I see you on TV. And I was like, what? And then that's why that's when like you know, and then my coworker the next day, that's when she was like, Oh my gosh, I was watching T. I saw you, I DVD it for you. And I was like, Oh, that was nice. That's so nice. Yeah, it was nice, and I still have it, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Carter, we were just asking John if MTV gave a heads up when it would air or not, but he was just saying he just saw the commercial in promo one day.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Yeah, tell us anything. And it was like That's wild. Two, I'm gonna say about two months later, no? It was a long time. I thought we were trying to get the damn show. Yeah, it was a long time. I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

I were checking on the TV, the TV guide, you know, every day, seeing if there was gonna be a my own on MTV. I scroll through it, right? The whole week. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

Oh, you were ready. You were looking for it, you were looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

Oh yeah. Well, what was um what was, I guess, that feeling when you first finally did see it, like in its completion. Like, were you kind of happy with how it came out? Were you excited?

SPEAKER_03 34:02

Yeah, I I was happy. I was just kind of mad that they didn't put in the other shit that we did because I'm like, we wasted all that time trained, and then you guys didn't even put those pieces of the show in on actual TV. I mean, which I understand they only had a limited of time, but I was just like, what the heck? We did all that for nothing. But then I was just like, you know what? I'm on MTV, I'm a star. You know, right?

SPEAKER_04 34:24

Yeah. No, especially.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

I I was really yeah, I was happy with my involvement. It was good. They uh they definitely had my comical parts and all the best parts, and uh I didn't look too I didn't look too silly like Brett did, so I was good. And then I did the good edit to have. And then her yeah, her friends love me. Britannia was not feeling me really, because uh, I don't know. She she's really I feel like she was really picky, John, right? She wanted only a Marion, she didn't want to want it any of us. Yeah, she's like just a Marion.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

Yeah, she's like, who are these fools? I don't want them.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Yeah, that's how I felt the whole time.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

Poor MTV lie to that girl. I need to interview her. I want to get her sat. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 35:19

We I have her YouTube. I I'll I'll I'll message her. I'll message her on the on the comment section, uh, and I'll set and get the link of this uh team and I'll uh I'll I'll put it on to her and like, hey, we got a podcast about this. So uh maybe we can do a part two and get Britannia on with this, John.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Come set the record.

SPEAKER_04 35:37

She's a YouTuber?

SPEAKER_01 35:39

Yeah. I'll youtubers.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

All right, nice.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

I feel like I think if I were in the judge role on this show, I think I'd be taking it pretty serious too.

SPEAKER_03 35:48

Okay, right. I think her friends had a lot to uh I think they were part of the judge, the judges too, right? They were like, Yeah, like that. Yeah, that's what it happened there. Like, so they were yeah, they were nice too. Her friends were really nice. They're one of them was really funny, the one on the left. I think it was like her. Oh, yeah. She was funny as hell.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

They were more funnier than Britannia. I liked I liked her friends more. They were my type.

SPEAKER_03 36:12

They were more like outspoken and like there is you would think that they were their show, you know? She was more attacked. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

Well, and aside from kicking it with each other, like did you guys have any like real commun like any more communication long term with anyone else from the show?

SPEAKER_03 36:30

Um, I I I kind of kept after the show for like a couple, like I'll say two years, um, me and Nick were just like checking on each other here and there on like social media, but then we kind of um stop. But once again, he's like on big time shows. I think he's like on the Doppler. Like he's on shows. Oh yeah. Like really. Nick is Nick, yeah. If you look at him. He has a what's it? The M D M D M D B M, whatever that shit is. He has that. Oh, I M D B. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can see the I mean I'm pretty sure they're not like I don't I don't think they're like starring rules, but he plays some parts of the shows, you know. So that's a working actor. It's good to know what one of us made it, Chobas. I knew I knew he was because he actually has he has like that star power. Like, I don't know, like his presence. I can tell I was like, this guy's gonna do a little something more. You know what I'm saying? He's gonna be something, so yeah. I kind of knew him.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

Oh guys, I did do one one reality show after I did uh you know American Idol? You know American Idol? Yes. You are on the first season of Canadian Idol. Oh, yeah? Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

There you go. Is that the one with Carly Ray Jabson? Or was she on a different one?

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she's like a judge on that one, but yeah, basically it was American Idol, but Canadian Idol.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

So all Canadian judges and yeah, that's pretty good. So can you sing actually, or are you like a joke comedy act? Like what was the vibe?

SPEAKER_01 37:55

I I'm uh I'm like a karaoke singer today. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 37:58

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

You gotta have that touch.

unknown 38:01

Touch.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

Period.

SPEAKER_00 38:03

Right, you need to do some Amaria. Did you sing Amaria?

SPEAKER_01 38:07

I did I did. I remember him, I remember I did, I did sing bump bump. Like let me turn around and say bump bump bump. And then I was oh I thought that's gonna be on the show for sure, but they're and they bumped them up.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

I don't know how to put the right stuff on, maybe so well, and I know because John, you mentioned kind of like uh having experience with like entertainment type stuff and performing. So did this show kind of present like doing it or working with MTV, did it kind of present other opportunities afterwards or not really?

SPEAKER_03 38:39

Um honestly, after that that show, I was just thinking like, okay, I don't think this is for me because like I said, the the whole and I'm kind of glad I did it because I would have tried to pursue a per a career or something in entertainment and then like not like it, like just the long days, like, and I'm just thinking like how actors and everyone what they go through for like a movie or show is like for two months, you're just stuck there for 10, 12 hours. Yeah, just that just those three days, I was just so drained, like and I just like nah, I don't think this is for me because it was like it burnt me out just those three days and it for a little seven MTV show or anything else. I was like, no. So then I kind of went more towards like behind scenes. So then I like um trying to uh do signing for like um artists and shit, like you know, workers and like things like that. Because that's just more like behind scenes, and especially now you can pick out you know an outfit and then just have it delivered to them, you're not sitting there, you know, for hours and hours. Yeah, but it kind of gave me like a a light bulb in my hair, like, yeah, this is not for me. Because I really was trying to do that. Like it was I was especially in today, I was dancing all through like my high school, college. So I was trying to be like a backup dancer for like a senior art or something like that. Yeah, I know they act they go through the same process as well, like long days of rehearsals and I don't know. I was just like, uh, it's not like I'm not dealing with that. Yeah, no, like no, it's all but just it kind of gave me like a an uh view of what it is how the industry is, and it will be, you know.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

So it's well, at least you kind of got to have that taste and realize you didn't like it in a way that wasn't necessarily too crazy or like detrimental in any way. Yeah. Cause you know, some people they get involved in reality TV, entertainment, whatever, and it ends up going like real bad for them. It's like a real disaster, and that's how they find out they don't like it. Yeah, yeah, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 40:32

I'm not even gonna lie, I did I did um um auditions for the uh this was uh years ago, the the Bad Boys Club. Wait, the Bad Boys Club. Oh, you didn't. I just I just did it just might as well just to see, you know, just to like it.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

I wasn't really gonna do this shit, but I just want to let me just see what happens.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

Not that I throw your hat in the ring.

SPEAKER_02 41:00

I joked a million times about going to Bad Boys Club Auditions, and it ends like you're gonna get like jumped and beat up at the audition. You're not even you won't even get the shot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

Because I can't fight. Right. And I'll and I I just fight for no reason just on TV. I'm not gonna make myself look stupid like that. But I just audition just to see if I get picked, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

Yeah, no, sometimes it'd be like that. Sometimes I'm you know, I want to audition for a show just to see. Yeah, you know, what is the interview process like? What are you gonna ask me?

SPEAKER_04 41:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:29

But you know what's crazy? It's like how like now in this era and like this nowadays, it's you don't see shows like I own or next or anything like that. Reality, you know, everything. You don't see shows like that anymore. So you're kind of like a like a dying breed, you know? Yeah. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

Yeah, I feel like in a lot of ways, reality TV back then was very much like throw anything at the wall, see what sticks, try everything. And like pretty much any idea could get greenlit. Yeah. Now I feel like they don't want to take the risk on things that may or may not be successful or may or may not work. So it's a lot like you see a lot of shows that are just kind of the same. Like you see a million real housewives shows, and then you see other shows that aren't real housewives, but they're almost the same format, or a million shows like Survivor, like the legacy shows like Survivor, Big Brother. That's stuff that they know is gonna work. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Selling sunset, selling sunset, yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:24

Yeah, there's not a lot of shows where it's like regular everyday people and it's like a new person every week. It's usually like set casts, and I feel like they need to go back to that. I feel like people are kind of missing it, and you're not really, I don't know. I feel like the fame aspect of reality TV is kind of dwindling, unless you're on Love Island, apparently. So you might as well just have fun with it, cycle them in and out, and call it a day. Yeah. But oh, last little question I want to ask, we're getting to the end of the interview, but is there anything like you want to share about the show or your experience at all that we haven't asked you about, you want to elaborate on? Is there anything you felt like we maybe missed?

SPEAKER_03 43:01

No, I'll just I had a good time. I just say it was it was it was a good time in my life. Like I'm glad. And then uh like I say, when I did the the the performance or video portion of the show, that's I like it made me feel like a star because I have my backdrop and my props and shit, and I'm just like I'm like I'm actually on the stage about the perform, you know. So it was it was a really good time. I had like I feel like a star for three days, so it was a good experience, you know.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

So I feel like the show um definitely is a segue to my life today. I'm a content creator today, and it got me create creative, comfortable in front of the camera, right? So yeah, I think it's like going today, like doing your own content. But back then we were in the content, OG content, M T V. So right, that's the start of all reality TV, right? And uh just how actual like real reality TV was back then in 2000. That was the real deal. Like we Have much script. That was all the cuff. That was all John. That was all Carter. That was all us. So uh pretty cool we were able to do that. And it's uh it was an international show.

SPEAKER_03 44:10

And I'm glad that we got to do it because once again, that the reality TV and anything nowadays is so like washed, you know, it's not yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

So yeah, it's past the golden age for sure.

SPEAKER_04 44:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

And there's no more fun formats anymore, like my own. Just the concept was absurd, like even explaining it for the episodes is like ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04 44:29

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

I feel like a modern my own would be kind of interesting. I feel like they should like put consider a reboot because I feel like there's some people a lot of different actors, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:39

Make it better, you know. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

I almost see like uh I almost see like a content creator on social media or YouTube or something doing that before a major network does that. Oh yeah, right. Yeah, you're gonna get like Mr.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Yeah, that'd be a fun little YouTube show. Yeah, because people really don't want to be stable anymore. Everything's on you know, podcast or YouTube or something, so yeah. It should be a uh YouTube or something that does it because you can't really watch TV anymore anyway.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

So yeah, yeah. I those say a lot of like famous celebrities will have like look-alike contests, like those heated rivalry boys had a big look-alike contest. So maybe that's like the modern version of my own. Like, yeah, they'll be like, oh, we're coming to this park in the city if you look like the so-and-so come, and there'll be massive turnout. Oh, wow. Like my friend went to the heat of rivalry one, and like they had to move to a second park because the police shut it down. It was like a massive crowd of people. It was like, yes. The turnout just to see just to see boys in person that looked like these boys from heated rivalry. It was it was something. Well, I saw footage. That one got a little spicy too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:44

Like hiding or spicy.

SPEAKER_02 45:46

Oh no, no, like like making out and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

Oh, dang.

SPEAKER_02 45:49

Yeah. Oh they were going for it. A little bit of both.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

In the park. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04 45:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:58

Yeah, that's all.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

Oh my gosh. Um well, I guess just over. I mean, overall, it it's awesome. It sounds like you guys just had such a positive experience, and it's nice to be able to have such like a good outlook on it too, all these years later, and be like, okay, that was cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:15

Um remember like it was yesterday, it was a good time, you know.

unknown 46:18

Right.

SPEAKER_03 46:18

I was happy they kept my my audition to even call me because like I said, I was just right.

SPEAKER_00 46:23

Oh, they did.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

It's like there is a good to be able to say, like, oh, I'm a part of kind of like this lost media and everything. There's a little bit of like interest to it too. Like people, you because I mean you kind of see people when you look it up online, like kind of digging for it too, like wanting to know more, wanting to be like, oh, I saw this episode years ago. I can't find it anywhere, I want to see it again, you know. So kind of getting to be a part of that is cool.

SPEAKER_03 46:45

When I talk to like, it just depends on like the like the age group. Like, I guess like people like my age. Like, I'll mention it. Like when I did a training for one of my jobs, and then we had to like do questions and like name something list something unique about yourself. And I put all those on the MTV. And then one of the girls was like, Oh my gosh, I remember that show. Which one you're on? And I was like, Amart and guy. She was like, Oh my god, I remember that show. Yeah. And she's like, Oh, that was you. Like, they're just you remember it, you know, just depending on you know if you actually watch MTV during that time and things like that.

unknown 47:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

I think that's one good thing this show has going for it because it was like one celebrity per episode. It's easy for people to remember like your specific episode. Whereas if you were like on next or room raiders or something, it's probably like, well, they're like 300 episodes of that.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

So it's like so many guy and the girls and just like well those, yeah, those are the ones where you have to be someone who did something crazy and probably embarrassing to be remembered. Right, right. Something stupid or outrageous to like I'm that guy. Yeah. Yeah, something that haunts you more than maybe you're necessarily proud of. Right.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

But would you do reality TV again today if like a similar situation arose or like a competition show of some sort? Are you fully like behind the scenes behind the camera?

SPEAKER_03 47:58

I would do a I'm gonna probably do a reality show, yeah. Nothing like that fighting crap. No, nothing like No Zeus Network. Because I'm just I'm not like doing all that, you know, fighting every day. Oh yeah. But like if it was something like a like a reality show, like I don't know, like it'll have to it'll have to be something that I'm interested in, or I like to go out, like I I like to go out a lot like in like clubs, or maybe it's like about nightlife or something like that. I can do something like that, yeah. But that'd be cool. And not nothing exciting.

SPEAKER_00 48:30

Yeah. And you, Carter, would you do reality TV again in the future? Any kind of TV are you you like producing your own content and being the the producer?

SPEAKER_01 48:38

Uh if there was a reality TV show about foodie content creators, I'm all in. I I think I'd be that would be my jam. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 48:47

I could see you for sure on one show.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

Well, while we're here, Carter, can you plug your handles for the people, the listeners? Where could they find you? Well, no one know what to eat.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

Follow me at Ritzcraka. It's R-I-T-Z-C-R-A-K-C-A on Instagram and on TikTok. Um, yeah, I do a lot of food content, but a lot of fun events, uh positive vibes, and uh yeah, just have fun.

SPEAKER_03 49:14

I always watch your videos and all of them get hungry. I just sit there and I'm watching, I look so good. I gotta go to Canada. Like I would spend so much money on food. Like I don't buy Jordans and Nikes and all that. I won't spend money on shoes, but I'll spend money on food, like good quality food.

SPEAKER_01 49:33

I'll take you out to eat and I got the tab. You don't gotta pull your wallet because the content pays for the bill. I think order whatever you want on the menu.

SPEAKER_03 49:43

You're gonna get it.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

I love that. What about you, John? Anything you want to plug or promote?

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Um, my um handle for TikTok, John Vetty, J-O-N-V-E-T-T-I. Um, but I do a lot of styling and I'm all into like fashion and things like that. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:00

What's up? Well, again, thank you both so much for your time. It was great hearing your stories today, your experience on my own. Yeah, I appreciate it. I'm glad you guys remember us. Of course.

SPEAKER_01 50:09

Thank you for remembering us.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

Listen, I think the show was very underrated, definitely deserves more clout. Hopefully, maybe they'll add it to Paramount Plus or something. There'll be another wave of fans to come.

SPEAKER_01 50:21

Right.

SPEAKER_00 50:22

Yeah, thank you guys so much.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

All right, thanks for being data.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

Thank you so much. John, we're gonna kick it, man. I'll come see you. All right. I got you, homie. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

Alrighty. All right, you guys definitely gotta make some content for us to watch that when you when you link up.

SPEAKER_00 50:38

Wow, that was fun. It was great getting to know about the casting and production side of it all. I really wanted to know what was put on because we know the era of MTV reality was very structured. So I really wanted to know what was put on and what wasn't. And I'm happy like how much like memories they had to see reignited because we were asking about a show from like 20 years ago. So Right.

SPEAKER_02 50:57

Well, and also I think just the fact that we got to get so much information about a show that is so much lost media, like that's pretty cool. Like, you don't really get, you know, unless you can find the exact source to go talk to. I mean, you don't really get that necessarily. Usually lost media is just that lost media. So I love how much intel we were able to get about it.

SPEAKER_00 51:19

Right? No, for sure. But I do want to ask, like, even I do feel like they lied to that girl and told her it was a different show, the one who was the The Bachelorette, if you will. If you were presented to be on my own, who who would are you finding your own version of?

SPEAKER_02 51:33

Oh, that's a good one. I mean, probably Montero. Probably Montero, yeah. A little Nodvax. Yeah. Although, although you you you know I've grown quite fond of that Hudson Williams lately.

SPEAKER_00 51:47

Oh, that's true. That's true. Yeah. I might get you a Wasion Warrior on the lineup.

SPEAKER_02 51:53

Oh my god. Why not? I I'd be so curious to see who they bring on for that.

SPEAKER_00 51:59

I mean, the casting call, I feel like that you could definitely fulfill that casting call in LA of all places. Right. Like Northern California, the Bay Area, you don't even need a casting call.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

You just need to walk around the mall, I think. They they might they might cast for Montero, but then be like, actually, you guys are doing I mean they might throw in one wild card. They might throw in one wild card. Right. Well, thank you all so much for listening to another episode of the On a Real Not Podcast. As always, if you want to keep up with us, we are at On a Real Not Pod across pretty much every social media platform. We've got us on TikTok. We've been getting more active on Instagram lately, we're on Threads, we're on X, or you might be watching us on YouTube or on YouTube. Um we're not on Facebook because we're you know a little young we're a little young for that.

SPEAKER_00 52:44

We're a little short. But if your mom likes us, tell her to check Spotify show. Or Pandora. We're not on Pandora. Does Pandora have a podcast option? I don't know. A certain generation loves Pandora. They're like 20 years late to the party, but maybe 15, but they love it.

SPEAKER_02 53:02

They do love it, but think think y'all. And give us five stars if we're on a platform you can rate us because we deserve it.