Movie Club: The Devil Wears Prada 2

Was this a sequel worth making or just a recession indicator? 

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SPEAKER_01 0:06

Hello, note takers.

SPEAKER_02 0:07

Welcome back to the Honoral Note Podcast. This is Noah Aaron. And this is Aiden, and I did get fired from my job at Runway, but I am not taking questions about it. Now, did you get fired or did you quit? Because Well, they got rid of the global DEI director position, so Miranda said something about a diversity job and a quota. But then her lovely, very gorgeous assistant. Okay, Amari. Miss Amari. I was gonna call that girl Aisha. I don't know where I got that name from. Well, you know what I mean? That's a fine name too. That's a fine name too. Amari just offered me my settlement and said it was better if I just signed it and left the building.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Well let's let's enter this building and talk about talk about this damn movie because today we're gonna be talking about the new movie, The Devil Wears Prado 2. This is a, you know, very highly anticipated sequel to the original movie. I mean, the original movie is very much like iconic. It's this big fixture in pop culture. Um, and it's this year, 20 years old. So crazy enough, two decades have passed, and we're finally getting a sequel, which for a long time it seemed like this was one of those movies that would just never have a sequel.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

Um both, I think, just because I almost feel like with a movie as iconic as the first one, there's like a fear of touching it and like creating a disappointment or a movie that's just gonna bomb or whatever. Mixed with the fact that it's kind of hard to get this many A-listers that are involved in the in this franchise together for a movie and a project. Um, and also like I don't think Meryl Streep has ever confirmed this, but I've always heard these things about how Meryl Streep doesn't like to do sequels to her movies. And when I looked at her filmography, I was like, oh, she really hasn't done like really the only movies she's done sequels for have been like Mamma Mia and this.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

Damn. And those are like some some of the biggest franchises she's been in, probably. So that kind of makes sense. But does that mean I can hold off or death becomes her too? Yeah, I don't think we're getting that.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Well, Goldie Goldie Fawn's alive, right? Goldiehan is alive, yes. She is. Gohan. Did you call her Goldie Fawn? Maybe, maybe. Next topic, next topic. Next topic, yes, next topic. Well, so yeah, today we're gonna kind of be getting into the movie. We're gonna be talking a it's gonna be a mixture of things. So we're gonna kind of reflect back on the original movie just a little bit. We're gonna talk about the new movie, we're gonna talk about kind of our main characters and where they were in this movie, where we found them, what their kind of development and arcs were. We're gonna talk about the side characters we liked. We're gonna kind of go over whether or not this was like maybe a worthy sequel. And of course, this is not a spoiler-free review. So if you have not seen the movie yet, which it's been out for like 10 days as of this recording, so it's not like a few.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

I mean, I I I came from it literally an hour before recording.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

So yeah, I saw it on Saturday, just a few days ago.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Um, so I mean I was in the second row, honey. It was like it's so stalin, so you know they're giving people sometime. If you need to come back next week, come back next week.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Right. If you yeah, but that's what we are not gonna be shying away from mentioning major plot points, talking about major moments. So yeah, if you want to go in spoiler-free, pause this and visit us, you know, later once you've got the chance to see it.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

On the train or the car ride back from the theater.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

Right. That's a good time to listen to it. Or the walk, if you know you're living like that. Um but yeah. Aiden, um, let's talk, let's start with talking about, you know, rewinding it 20 years to the first movie, The Devil Wars Prada, which came out in 2006. Uh, it was based on the novel that had came out a few years earlier. Allegedly, allegedly, it's about the uh the original book is about um about our girl. About our our girl. Our girl from the You know who Ms. Bob, Miss Bob. Miss Bob and sunglasses. Um but yeah, so as far as the original movie goes, I don't feel like we've ever had a conversation about the original movie. What what I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

I just assumed we've both seen it because we're two gay boys, but right. And I definitely have seen it in my childhood. Yes, it is iconic. And I had an older sister who watched pretty much like all those kind of rom-com themed movies that would, you know, air in those little movie channels, and it'd be a little of that. I would tune in. And I just remember Double Wears Prada was one that like hooked me in at a younger age. I was like, oh, this is kind of enticing. You know, you're following the story, they're a little mean to her. And of course, I feel like Ann Hathaway has like, you know, recognizance. Is that the best word to use? With our generation. Just from Princess Diaries, I feel like they aired her like on Disney Channel all the time. That little commercial of her like stepping on the bleachers and falling. I I can see that in my memory because I feel like Disney Channel just played it all the damn time. They love that one. So, you know, I I felt I feel some attachment to Anne Hathaway. I love me some of Anna Hathaway. Like, I I think I love Anne Hathaway so much, I don't even remember that hate train she got for her late Miserab Oscar campaign. She still won, so it didn't work. She won, right? Yeah, it didn't work. They didn't they didn't Timothy her, they didn't Charlamagne her out. But no, I enjoyed the Devil Wars Prada. It's not one of my favorite go-to movies. I'm not a big fashion person, but I think you know what hits the beats. I definitely think it's part of you know one of the movies that made me think that I could graduate college in 2019 and be a journalist in New York, which is what I wanted to do in high school. But along the way, I ended up majoring in business. I don't I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

Well, you know, capitalism got in the way, and that's okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:33

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

Yeah. But um, yeah, no, Devil Wears Prada for me. It was a similar thing just from childhood. I just remember like seeing it around. Um, you know, I definitely I don't think I I don't think I went and saw the original in theaters, but definitely like, you know, watched it on DVD. Um, definitely watched VHS on TV and whatnot. Yeah. VHS. No, I don't were they still making VHSs in 2006? Probably not.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

VHS is more given Rugrats in Paris.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Right. The little orange VHS. Right. I don't know. Everyone had that. But um, yeah, and it's one of those movies. I wouldn't say I like watch it a lot, but I definitely I feel like every few years or so I'll put it on just to revisit. It's one of those movies for me. Like, I don't know, like I'll I'll have it on in the background while I'm doing something, or I'm like, I'm I'm gonna put this on while I'm on the walking path.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Um if I was on a plane, I told Double Wars Prada, I'd be like, okay. Yeah, like in a hotel, flipping through the channels and like Double Wars Prada like just started. I'd be okay, you know. I I I'd probably turn on Made of Manhattan before Double Wars Prada, but I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Okay, well see, I I think on the opposite, I think I'd probably put on, you know, Devil Worth Prada before any Jennifer Lopez movie, but that's just me.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

I don't know. She eats out of made in Manhattan. I feel like she should have uh, that's her bag. The little ROM comes.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

She should have should have stuck to that. Um I just remember her and Jane Fonda that movie Monster in Law. I remember that. I don't think I saw it, but I can like imagine the post. I have like vague memories of it, but yeah, no, that the Double Wars product overall, I think it um I think for me, especially because I am someone like I really do um, I'm not like super into fashion. I'm not like, you know, I don't I don't I don't run like a lookbook page on Instagram or anything like that. But um or anything, you know, any any of that business. But I do like fashion. I I like seeing what's going on. I like looking at like what celebrities wear to the red carpets. I like look looking at some of the runway shows, like what people are doing. So I've always kind of liked fashion a little bit. And so the Devil Wars Product was a fun movie for me. It's campy, it's got the fashion. Um, it's got like that very kind of like funny, dry sense of humor to it, um, and a little bit cynical. Um and yeah, I don't know. I just always enjoyed it. And so Same.

SPEAKER_02 7:44

I just enjoyed like also as a child. It's like a movie about a quirky girl going to work, you know? I just I I I I was sold every time.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

Right. And I think um like Meryl Strape in this movie, she like her in the original movie, she plays like the nightmare boss like so perfectly. Like, like it's it's insane like how well she just like has it down, you know.

SPEAKER_02 8:07

Right? And just it was natural, yeah. And then just like the franticness of everything, and I think just that's when journalism was uh you know at its peak, so to speak. So yeah, it's it's not a surprise that that was shown as like an idealistic career at the time. That's why every movie kind of had this journalist in New York. Yeah. And one one scene I always remember is when Miranda is dragging Andy, like, you think you're not making a fashion decision, but that was chosen for you off the rack of TJ Max. See, I and I was like, God, damn, that's me. She wasn't shit off the rack of TJ Max.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

I wanted to reference that scene today because I wanted to, I really for this, I wanted to wear a cerulean sweater and one of those little newsboy caps that Ann liked to wear in the first movie. But I don't own either of those scenes. So I wore red instead in honor of our girl Miranda being the devil. Um The Devil. The dev the devil, honey. What what did um what did Joanna say? Joanna Krupa after eight in her confessional for Adriana hit her on Miami. She's I she's the devil turned around and I saw the devil's face and the devil punched me.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

You know, she was always one for the the dramatics.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Right. Very theatrical, very theatrical.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

Um you know those Sagittariuses.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

I'm curious because like that's like a memorable for you. Um in the original movie, did you have a favorite character?

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Not really. I mean, probably Andy. It's not one I rewatched a lot that I would be like, no, like I love them. I love seeing them. But I think just think I was attached to the main character and you know her quirkiness, so to speak. Yeah. And Anne Hathaway. I appreciate me some Anne Hathaway.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Yeah. Yeah, no, Anne Hathaway, she's easy to love, in my opinion. Um, I oh I always liked um Emily, the character Emily. I mean, as well as the actress. Oh, of course you did. But no, Emily was always my favorite as a kid. Like, I don't know why. I thought she was just so funny. I just remember when I was young, I'd be like, why does girl want to go to Paris so damn bad?

unknown 10:07

Right?

SPEAKER_02 10:07

She at least wants the Paris trip. Well, in sh the if you go to Paris, you get free Couture outfits. Right, you do get to wear couture. I'm gonna say you're working the whole time. You even get your own hotel room. Or you just have to lay on Miranda's couch. Well, I'm sure Miranda don't want that, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

No, I think if I remember correctly, I think Andy when they went to Paris, she got her own hotel room.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Uh I know, I just want it to be messy. I just want it to be messy. You feel up a little mess. But um Sometimes, sometimes. Well, moving on to I.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

I guess I didn't like me some Nigel. Oh, Nigel, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:40

Nigel was fun.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Uh-huh. No, I agree. I I always like Nigel. Um, and I mean Stanley Tucci, he's just great. He's like I've I've never like seen him in something and been disappointed. Right. He always brings his best performance. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

And now I'm thinking that, like, oh, the guy from True Jackson VP, they were copying Nigel. Right. They want that Nigel ass wannabe bitch. And Emily was Amanda, that old that's a lady who was trifling on this teenager. But I don't know. If some if some middle schooler took my job, I'd be I'd be mad too.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

So yeah, no, I'd be like, excuse me. Like, I'd like I I went to school with this. I did an unpaid internship. I I broke my back to get to this role, and that now this little teenage girl is the is the VP. Just gallery to run with her friends after school.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

Right. First of all, the school day ends at three. The work day ends at five. She has to commute. We'll get into that later. Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:35

Oh, are are we gonna are we gonna are we gonna do a true Jackson VP retrospective?

SPEAKER_02 11:39

Um we might. We might need to. It might be what the world needs to heal right now. Right. It might be tough at economic times because I will say usually a sequel with this level of stars, you think the script will be strong, but I think Meryl Streep and Ed Hathaway just needed a chat. Right. Well, yeah, let's let's get into that. Well, I don't think Meryl Streep needed a chat.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

You know, you know what I mean. She wanted it. She wanted it. She wanted it. Um, but yeah, let's get into the Devil Wars Prada 2. So overall, I think for me, when they first announced that this there was gonna be a sequel, because like I said earlier, it's been 20 years since the original. So when they first announced there was gonna finally be a sequel, I think initially I was a little hesitant about it. I was like, ooh, ooh. I was like, well, because I just feel I think in my mind I was wondering how they would do it, especially because I was like, it's been so long. I feel like the original movie also, I feel like is such a time capsule and a product of its time. Like it comments on so much of what was going on at the time that I was kind of like, how's it gonna look, you know, doing this today? Um, which we'll get into it later, but I actually think they did a good job at adapting, like, kind of to the tone of today while still keeping the movie feeling like a true sequel to the original. Um, but I did get more confident when I saw when they announced um that, you know, Meryl Streep, uh, Ann Hathaway, Stanley Tucci, and Emily Blunt that all um four of them were all coming back. Cause like originally I was thinking, I was like, are we are we gonna get Meryl and Ann and it's just gonna be a bunch of new people? So when I had that like we were getting like the whole like core four of the original movie back, I was like, okay, that gives me some more confidence. Right?

SPEAKER_02 13:16

No, it definitely was a nice tie together having them all. I kind of expected Nigel, but I was like, is Emily, you know, I wasn't I I guess I didn't never put together that Emily was Emily Blunt. And like I was telling you before we recorded, I mostly knew Emily Blunt by like name, not really face. So to me, it's like, okay, Emily Blunt is John Krasinski's wife. Like I know that as like something I've read on the internet, but I didn't put together that was a old devil was proud of meme girl Emily. Yeah. But you know, she she lost the blue eyeshadow this time and done got a glow up. But I know when I heard it announced, I was like, okay, I'll probably go see this, but I don't really have much feeling. I was just like, this is the kind of IP that Hollywood would be right now because I heard most people would like, I'll see it.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

It doesn't have to be that great. Well, you know, I think we're kind of in the era of like, I because I feel like, you know, in the past, we've had like in past decades and stuff, we've had like the eras of like rapid fire sequels where like the moment a movie is successful, we gotta franchise it. We gotta have a sequel every year, every other year, um, to, you know, varying degrees of quality. Um, you know, and we've been in the era of remakes before, you know, before where it's like, you know, especially like in the 2000s and stuff, it's like every classic movie needs to be remade for a modern audience. Um, we had the era of requels. We had the, you know, where it's like we're gonna ignore the sequels we don't like and we're gonna promote this as like just a direct follow-up to the original. And I feel like I like the audacity of requels. I like the audacity of requels. I mean, it's fun. Um, but I feel like right now we're very much in an era of like, of like, of like the rebooting of those like kind of like classic, you know, like TV shows, movies, media that's kind of been out of the, that's kind of been inactive for a long time for several decades. We're kind of like, okay, we're gonna follow up on that now. Um with the Devil Wars Prada, you know, we've seen the last few years like a lot of older TV shows get the reboot treatment um and get revisited.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

Um whether it's the old characters or just whole new people in the same format, they've been letting that up. Yeah. And it's kind of tiring, especially sometimes with the show from the 70s I never heard of, like Night Court. I'm like, sure, I'll give it a try. I never watched Night Court. I think I watched an episode, but you know, it's okay, reboot. Like, I don't mind if it's that old of a reboot that you're kind of introducing something newer to a generation.

unknown 15:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:31

But maybe I just feel oh, because if it's something I remember, I'm like, does this need a reboot?

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Right. What I feel like to me, uh, like when it comes to like if we're gonna bring something back that, you know, if we're gonna follow up on something that's like older, that's been a while ago and stuff, like to me, it needs to not, even obviously all of them are cash grabs, like that's just the nature of the business, but it needs to not feel like a cash grab. Like it needs to feel like this needs to have a reason to exist, you know. It's kind of like um um with the sex in the city reboot and just like that. Like, you know, I I didn't watch all of it. I watched like maybe a couple of episodes, and I was like, this just doesn't feel like it has any purpose of like being here. Um it feels like y'all just wanted to bring this back and milk some more money out of this franchise.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Well I I think some of them probably just needed work. Right. I don't know. Well, Charlotte, I I forgot that lady name. Will she work it? I don't really see her in things. I see her podcast, but I don't really see her anywhere. Are you a Charlotte?

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Now you know damn well I hope Charlotte. And sometimes a Carrie.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

I'm not gonna But um But yeah, like I feel like we we've just been in that trend lately. Um and honestly, like I feel like even though I was like excited for this movie to come out, because like, oh, I want to see a Devil Wears prodigious, like I want to see that. Even though I was excited, there was a part of me that like all the way up until I actually went and watched it, like I did think I was like, this is just gonna be a cash ground, cash crowd, this is gonna be like nostalgia bait. But like after watching it, you know, I have like I have my pros, my cons, my praise, my criticism, and whatnot of the movie. But overall, I do feel like this movie felt like it had a reason to exist. And I felt like they did kind of do some interesting things with it and kind of advanced um the storylines of our characters that came back. So I I was I like, you know, I would say honestly, uh bravo to them for like making something that didn't necessarily just feel like a cash grab.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Yeah, I will agree that it didn't feel like a cash grab, but I don't necessarily think this movie like needed to exist after watching it. I was watching like, all right, like this was cute. Double Wars Prada, it was just giving Double Wars Prada 2. I don't know how to explain them other than that. Yeah, whatever. Like it was the revolution. Like Anna's not getting an Oscar for this, but she has her.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

She don't really, I don't think she's well I think Merrill or the original, she got I don't think she got the Academy Award, but I think she got an Academy Award nomination for the original. Right.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

But this this was just giving them having fun, like, oh, we want to go on location to Milan. Yeah. And I bet the four of them got together, like, we're gonna run them up. If they really want this movie, we're gonna get paid. We go on a location.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

I think they just had it was given having fun with your old co-workers, you know? Right. Well, I would be curious to know like what the salaries were for this, just because um I remember that kind of like like very like iconic interview that people like to talk about with Meryl Streep, where she was talking about how like, because she didn't say numbers, but she basically said that for the original Devil Wears Prada, they came to her with an offer and she said no and then asked for double what they offered her, and then they said yes, like right away.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

Oh damn. Yeah, so I should have a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

I'd be curious to know what yeah, I'd be curious to know like what she actually got paid for that one and then what she got paid for this one. Right?

SPEAKER_02 18:54

I'm sure she went to the bag. I know Anne loves to tell that story how she was like the ninth choice for Andy originally, which is so crazy to imagine because she, I mean, she is Andy to us, so we watch.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Right. I can't yeah, that's the thing, is I feel like with all four of our main characters, and we'll get more into like specifics with the characters later, but I feel like with all four of our main characters, like I really can't imagine anyone else playing these characters. Like I feel like they all just are their characters, like in such a in such a perfect way.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

I mean, if Whitney Levitt replaced Emily Blunt, I don't think I would have noticed, but I see what you mean.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Um but yeah, so I think as far as like the plot, I mean, just like the general, like a quick summary of the plot of the movie, basically the movie kind of opens with us kind of like revisiting Andy, um, Ann Hathaway's character. And she is still working as a journalist, you know, after leaving Runway 20 years ago. Um, she's it seems like she's had a pretty like esteemed career. Like she's done a lot of really great work and everything. We see her at the beginning, she's about to, you know, be she's about to be given an award. And then um, boom, boom, boom, like while she's right before she receives a award, her and all of her colleagues find out that essentially they're being fired or laid off or like whatever, like however you want to word it. Um and it's kind of giving us like that angle of like like journalism is a little bit dead in the modern era um and undervalued. And so basically, with her kind of now in need of a new job, this opportunity pops up for her to return to runway because Miranda Priestley is facing this huge scandal over um sweatshop working conditions and essentially lighting her ass up.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

They were lighting her ass up.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Essentially, that she took a bad deal because she was fooled into working with I think it was like a vendor or whatever that used those conditions and like they did not realize. And then that whole basically, you know, it was like the modern scandal that you kind of see. It's the kind of shit you would see in like the New York Times or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

The modern fast fashion brand. I don't think it was probably as gouched as you know, a fashion nova, but it was given Shapakira or something at the least.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

But yeah, so basically we kind of have this plot, these plot points that force these two characters back together because essentially there'd be no other reason for these characters to reconnect. Um so Andy ends up, you know, taking a new job as a journalist for Runaway. Um, what kind of task with trying to rehab the brand the brand and the image and kind of bring some legitimacy back? Um, we see, you know, Miranda Priestley still essentially in her same role, but she's gearing to move on up in the world and get a better position. We see Nigel still there. We find out that Emily is no longer with Runway, that she now works for Dior essentially as like a luxury shopping vendor. Um and of course her in a You need to call her a vendor. You might need to call her a vendor. Well, that's what they they that's what they do. They throw a shade calling her a vendor in the movie. Um but essentially she's been worse for idea. Yeah, her company. Works with Runway, which is like kind of what uh keeps her connected. So there's like a lot of little things that essentially kind of force these characters back together. Um, and then yeah, we kind of like that's kind of just where the movie goes from there. Um, and we kind of see some similar shenanigans from the first movie play out. Uh, you know, Miranda's still a bitch. Um Lily's still there, be being it, Andy's friend. Yeah. I think yeah. So I mean, and that's I mean, that's kind of just where the plot goes from there. I mean, we kind of see, I feel like the way the plot, like it's similar to the original, but there's a few twists and turns.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Yeah, definitely. And I feel like it started off a little slow. Like, we got the setup, and I'm just like, for the first hour, I'm like, okay, where's the bomb drop? I don't think this is the main conflict. And obviously, we know when the main conflict comes, I do what Cynthia Bailey gas. Woohoo! Like literally in my in my little theater seat, I guess. When so the main, I guess the movie starts heating up when Irv, who is the head of it all, he dies suddenly at the party when he's about to announce the promotion of uh Miranda as the global head of content, which in looking for a promotion at 70, uh, I I can't, I can't. I thought that was the lesson of the movie. Like, when is this ever gonna stop? But it doesn't seem to get to that point. But I don't know, there's a lot that's like dropped in and then not revisited overall. Like, even the first thing with like the fashion industry and like the conditions, I thought that was gonna be more of an overarching narrative rather than like tech is evil overall, which like I see what they're getting at, but I don't know, I feel like the fashion of his all of it all is much more specific to the industry. It would have been more interesting, but you know, I digress.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Well, I kind of throughout the movie, because I feel like whereas the first movie, like, they were very clearly like zoned in on commenting on the fashion industry, yeah. Um, and you know, and all and everything that kind of comes with that. This movie, it kind of felt like they couldn't fully commit to whether they wanted to focus on kind of like where journalism is in 2026 and or where the fashion industry is in 2026. I felt like they were kind of trying to cover both and splitting the focus a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

No, you're you're exactly right. And it was just like, what are we going for here? But it makes sense because Andy kind of had tradition between both worlds. But definitely Miranda had this whole thing about, you know, beauty and art. And then Andy's about like journalistic integrity and honesty. Yeah. Which I guess, you know, combined, you know, leads to the magic we get at the end of the movie. But it definitely did feel like clashy narratives overall.

SPEAKER_01 24:30

Right. Well, and you kind of see like you kind of see for both of them, like you said, Miranda with the, you know, with the integrity and the art and like everything about the fashion industry, and Andy with the journalism and everything. You kind of see both you kind of see how maybe some modern technology and advancements and optimization and stuff are kind of like really stifling out and downplaying both of those things.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

Yeah, pretty much. And we also see pretty much like how that impacts people on the ground level. We see Andy getting laid off from her job. Ryan, she got an award. We're seeing these restructuring efforts at um, I keep wanting to call it vogue, run away. Kind of impacting how Miranda's running her day to day until the point where they're like, well, we gotta bring in some help, which leads to Andy getting hired because Irv calls them up, which we later find out was Nigel behind the scenes the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

So I was like, ooh, look at Nigel having some power. I was glad that they tied that in at the end of the movie because the entire movie, I just remember, I was like, Who why would Irv even know who this woman, Andy, like really is? And like, why would he specifically? Because I mean, like, I mean, obviously he sees her in the news and everything, and I maybe he might somehow know that like once upon a time, 20 years ago, she worked for Miranda. But the entire time it made no sense to me. I'm like, why the fuck does he care about like all people?

SPEAKER_02 25:41

At first I thought BJ Novak was gonna be like the love interest. I didn't realize he was gonna be evil. I thought I was like, okay, that's maybe he got a little crutch on Ann, on Andy, and I thought he's gonna fold in, but no, it it was a lot going on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

So I was glad they brought that in. Um and then, you know, and that kind of leads to we see with the other kind of after Irv dying, we see then the next thing that kind of builds up is we see um Andy and Emily kind of teaming up to work together. Um, essentially with the idea of like, hey, we're gonna save runway because now they find out that like runway is gonna be getting all these cuts and it's gonna be, you know, getting reduced in capacity and you know, all the potentially all these jobs are getting in departments are getting wiped out. Um and people over five years, you gotta go. Yeah, that's all right. And I was w I was wondering, I was like, well, so does that count Andy or not? Because she came back after 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Um they probably it's probably gonna continue as service. So she probably only did the internship, that was whatever by the time, and then she's back now.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

So maybe a couple of years, but um Nigel's definitely getting up the fuck out of there. Yeah, and then obviously the big twist there is we find out that Emily was secretly plotting a takeover of Runway with her, you know, new billionary boyfriend who's Lucy Lou ex-husband.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Um I'd I was so excited to see Lucy Lou, which was definitely a whole like Jeff Bezos, McKenzie Scott, yeah, Lauren Bezos thing of it all, with the boyfriend of his new hairline being Jeff. Emily Whitney Levitt is um Lauren, and then Lucy Lou is McKenzie Scott.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Yeah, well, and because like even so much with like Lucy Liu's character, um, like being like, you know, I just want to give everything away. I want to give back, I want to do that. Like, I don't care about the money. Like, that's literally Jeff Bezos' ex-wife. Um, this McKenzie Scott. They were not being subtle about it at all.

SPEAKER_02 27:35

Um, yeah, no, it was definitely very much like this is what we're doing. But it makes sense because also like Lauren Bass was trying to like brand herself into a whole fashion girly now. Right. Paul Roach is styling her. And apparently it was like a whole thing that he almost bought Condé Nast for her just to gallop in and play around, which is kind of a gag. I did not realize there was some truth to that. But Emily's a little backdoor hostile takeover. I was thinking it kind of gagged because it was giving somebody on survivor trying to do a big move and then blowing up in their face the next week.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

And then come and say, hey girl. One of the frustrating thing is it's like fucking because Andy insisted that I don't know why Emily let her, because Andy was like, we need to tell Miranda about what's going on. And like Emily should have been like, no, let's let's not, let's not. Like Emily need to do a better job at like keeping her allies under control. Um, I think Andy was she probably realized Andy was gonna tell her anyway, because that's a determined girl. She's like, let me be present uh when the shoe drops. Back because I mean she would have succeeded had it not been for that. Right.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

And honestly, I feel like I was hoping for her or expecting a juicier story on like why Emily left. Because they were kind of like building up all of this stuff, like, oh, it must have been drama, must have been crazy. And it just turned out like Emily got quote unquote pushed out because Dior gave her this job. But it's not like she necessarily got fired, but maybe it was like too good of an offer that she couldn't refuse. Right. Miranda set up. Right.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

And then I don't know, it should have just been more nefarious, honestly. Like, I wouldn't. Right. No, I would have liked it better if it was a case of because it almost feels like like okay, like I understand being a little maybe bitter about getting pushed up, but at the same time, like you got pushed out into a really good position.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Which a lot of people don't get that. A lot of people just get laid off and get screwed.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

Uh I guess it's less close to the sun, but obviously she probably feels about it the same way Miranda does, because like she said, Miranda told you, you're not a visionary, you're a vendor. But you know, at in the retail space, which she kind of goes on about, luxury retail is where the money happens. This is where people make money. So it's not especially as creative, maybe not as like prestigious in that world.

unknown 29:36

Right.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

But she was getting to the bag, it scenes, with her man. I don't know. You should have gotten a ring. Chopped with a baby.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

Well, I think just especially because like in the first movie, we see like how obsessed um Emily is with her job at Runway and with the magazine in general, and like she is like sacrificing so many things in her life for it and everything. I think what they could have done is they literally could have had it been like Miranda just like cold ass bitch, just like throughout fired her, and she had to go rebuild elsewhere. Right. And like they could have tied in like how like how bitter she was about like how a magazine, everything. They could have done that, and it would have, I feel like, done a better like motivation for the revenge plot. Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

Or like if she tried to like blackball her, like, you know, she was interviewing and Miranda was like, try to get down, like keep her there or keep her little. Like, I don't know. And honestly, I don't like how they diminished Emily a little too much. Obviously, they have to position Andy as like, you know, moral good, it works out for her, but Emily clearly was good at her job, competent, nose-fashioned, succeeded in these circles. Clearly was getting to the bag and scam that man. So I don't know. I feel like the the movie didn't show enough to be like, you know, Emily's good too, just not as good as Andy, but Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Well, I think that like, and I mean that was the thing with the first movies. And I feel like, like, when you go back to the first movie, that is such like a common story trope in so many um pieces of media where you have like two characters in a similar like industry or job position where one like really cares and really wants it and is taking it very seriously and they're working hard for it. And the other one really doesn't give a fuck, doesn't take it seriously, thinks it's like stupid, which is like that was Andy in the first movie. She's like, Oh, this is all dumb. Um the Sharp. But then the one that doesn't take it seriously advances over the one that does. And like you see that trope in a lot of media, I've noticed. Um, for sure. And I I mean I mean, look at fucking high school musical, look at sharp.

SPEAKER_03 31:27

Right?

SPEAKER_01 31:28

I was saying he kept losing out, she kept losing out lead roles to a bitch that could care less.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Well, it's not like Gabriella, you know, didn't give a fuck, but she's about to study with her books. Now Troy was just that is a rolled out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

But Ryan didn't want the lead enough. Ryan didn't want the lead enough. He he wasn't determined enough, he wasn't determined enough. Well, he he also wasn't determined enough to be gay because suddenly he has a girlfriend by the by the time everything is said and done. But they wasn't changing clothes in the country club. Ooh, him and Chad. Ooh, Lord. Um, but yeah, so and basically obviously the the movie ends with Emily's plan failing. Miranda gets to keep her job. Andy, and actually, surprisingly, you know, because actually, you know what? Let's just get straight, let's just get directly into like focusing on some of the characters. Let's talk about Andy and kind of like her like her like overall journey she goes on this movie, which is like what I find interesting is that um when you look at like kind of like her ending in the first movie versus her ending in this movie, you know, in the first movie, you kind of see her, even though she ends up being really good at the job, she ends up leaving it to continue pursuing journalism in part because she sees like what Miranda's life is like and realizes that she doesn't want that for herself. She doesn't want to be in this. Um, and that's the end of the first movie. Um, versus in this movie, it's almost like she decides to stay with Runway in the industry and almost kind of come at it from a point. The first movie, it's like she's running away from it. And the movie, I feel like it's more like she's changing it from within.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

Or she thinks she is, but I bet she's still playing her interns like shit. Probably, probably. Oh girl, put the phone down and why you'd have that conversation.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

She deserved a race for that, but she did deserve a race for that. And we're gonna talk about her because she was my favorite side character. We're gonna talk about her. Oh, I loved her, I loved her. But um, yeah, I I did like um, I did like with Andy because in the original movie, like she was kind of like this hope, like this young, naive, like hopeful, kind of insecure character coming into this situation where she was kind of being thrown to the wolves in a way. Um, just kind of trying to, you know, get a start in her career. And I feel like in this movie, it felt like she very much slipped back, Anne Hathaway really slipped back into the character, and she still felt like Andy, but she felt like realistically like where Andy would be 20 years later. Like she felt like an older, more confident Andy. No, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

I definitely got that. Because you see the refinement in like her attire and her dress, but there's still some awkwardness, though it's like, oh, oh, you know, like she's so clacking in them heels because she can't walk to the point where I'll ask her, like, you should get that chance.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

Right. Well, and it makes sense because in the first movie, she kind of comes in portrayed as like this frumpy, like unstylish character, um, who's just kind of wearing like what's comfortable and not really, you know, caring much how it looks. And then obviously in the first movie, she gets like this major makeover where she's wearing all these like designer labels and all these really curated outfits. And by the end of the movie, she kind of ditches that. And I feel like in this movie and her style, you see a mixture of that where it is elevated and a little bit more stylish, but it's still her, and it's not necessarily like she's just wearing all the labels and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

I know, and I like that. It's cute. Yeah, definitely bury her and still getting dragged by Miranda sometimes. She she definitely got told to change in Milan.

unknown 34:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:43

And she took her ass back and changed.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

I know that. Well, and that's what I kind of like though, is I kind of like that like her and Miranda's dynamic is still similar, but you can kind of see like she's not as hurt by it as she was in the first movie. She's not, it's not hitting the same way because I think she is a little bit more of a self-assured person now.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Yeah. She's kind of like pushing back on Miranda a little bit, sometimes doesn't care.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

She's not like terrified of her like she was in the first movie.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

And I think in part society's change, Miranda can't be as, you know, such a behemoth. Because one, the industry isn't what it used to be, so she's adorned to some different people, but yeah, society isn't also what it used to be. And we see that in the movie, which is funny, because pretty much Simone Ashley's character, Miss Amari, Simone Ashley's so fucking gorgeous, beautiful girl. She is. But pretty much half of her lines were pretty much correct to Miranda saying problematic shit or advising her to use more HR-appropriate language, which is funny. And then at one point they show Miranda hanging up her coat, which is funny as well.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

I know Andy is like, is Miranda hanging up her own coat? And then she could be like, oh yeah, there was something about her throwing it at other people. Yeah, I know. Uh Jen, Andy's assistant, was like, yeah, no, like people some people complain to HR about her throwing her coat at people a while back. Um she was whispering it like it was tea, like Andy and experience that. Right. I think I know she literally, in the first movie, she literally always always likes throwing her coat in someone's face.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Making Andy get manuscripts from J.K. Rowland of unreleased fucking books.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Yeah. Um, I will say, like, oh, like overall from start to finish, I did enjoy Andy in this movie. One thing I was not here for is her love interest, like side plot to me was so pointless. Like, genuinely, you could have removed that love interest and it would change nothing about the movie.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Right? I I like the fact that it wasn't like a main focus, but this movie already felt so weirdly paced, so it just felt so shoehorned in, but truthfully, like not useful at all. Yeah. The only thing it did was give Lily something to do other than just reassure Ann. Yeah. I guess there was a I'm glad Tracy Tom got a check, but right. Yeah, no, yeah, though, just shoehorned in. And why were he a Merrill's nigga too? Like, while her young ass, first of all, the cat, I was so confused other than her son, but that's her man.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Hello, sugar baby. Hello, pound cake. Hello, boy toy. Right. Well, I feel like though, at least like with him, he was kind of more just like he was more kind of just like walking around like yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just kind of there, you know. He was just walking around doing it. Like, I feel like with with Andy's man, I can't remember his name. Um, I feel like the realtor with the Australian accent. Yeah. Here's the thing is I really I'm I don't I don't like I don't like the pointless love interest with the Australian accent. I have not liked that ever since um Vanessa Williams was on Desperate Housewives and they gave her a fuck ass Australian guy to be a love interest. I'm like, let her do other things. This is a waste of time.

unknown 37:34

All right.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

Let her be the other one. But they really didn't need this. I also feel like Andy's at the point in her life where she would date a light-skinned man and he was not that.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

Oh yeah. And then Andy did awkwardly kind of like mention her frozen eggs a few times. Um the first time she said that.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

I knew that's what she meant when she talked about 82nd Street. I was like, oh, she's talking about her frozen eggs.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

Well, I think I thought um that was an area where I feel like they kind of like subverted the expectation a little bit for me. Because I feel like most of the time in a franchise like this, they would like between Emily and um Andy's characters, they would make like Andy like the single mom that's like trying to balance having a kid and working. While Emily would be like the childless one, like the childless one. But I feel like they kind of switched that and I kind of liked that.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

No, Emily gave me like two babies, three nannies, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Well, yeah, I just feel I feel like I I feel like um for Emily, it was kind of like a nice way to soften her character, right? Like where like the moments where she's kind of like, oh yeah, look at my kids.

SPEAKER_04 38:36

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 38:38

Gave her some, you know, made her more well-rounded. And we do see like the walls between Emily and Andy come down a little bit, which leads to a very awkward scene in the end with a terrible blonde haircut, but you know, a friendship between them potentially blossoming for real this time.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

Yeah, well, I'll say, and and and I I do want to get more into Emily's character, but before we get to her, I did want to talk about Nigel. Um, because I feel like I feel like overall he was probably of the four main characters, he was probably the one that had the least story and least development between the two movies. But I feel like he still had a little something going on. Yeah, in a little arc. Yeah, and I feel like, you know, in a lot of ways in this movie, he served kind of the a similar purpose as he served in the first movie, where he's kind of just like a little shady, sassy, you know, guy running around and he's helping Andy and stuff, you know, kind of like um survive this rule. Um and and, you know, advising Miranda and everything. Um I will say, to me, it's kind of funny that he even still works for Miranda 20 years later. Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Because I mean she pulled in the first movie.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

Yeah, because she tried to snake the fuck out of him in the first movie. And then he even said um to Andy, he because Andy was like, Oh, you've forgiven her for that. And he's and and he's like, Well, she's done it to me like tw at least 20 times since then.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

And I'm sure he's gotten his lip back because he loves talking through a back channel. He brought Andy in to piss Miranda off. So I imagine, you know, what has he done before? But he's kept his job, he stayed on payroll, so right.

SPEAKER_01 40:09

Yeah, and um, I do I do like his little arc of like, I feel like you kind of see, and it's kind of tied into Miranda's arc as well, but you kind of see by the end of the movie, Miranda kind of finally coming to appreciate him more and like understanding like the fact that, like, hey, out of everybody, this is the only one that stuck by me for like decades. Um, and he's always been there, he's always been dependable.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

A soldier for Miranda, as Karen Huber would put it.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Yeah, and that and that's the thing is, you know, I mean, you know, it can be argued that for every, you know, um powerful businesswoman, there's a there's a homosexual man somewhere helping all the male. That she's probably keeping in a lower position. Right. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, he hasn't advanced at all since then in 20 years. Right.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

Just the art director still. Not even like a little international little uh, you know, excursion. After two years of Moraine does bullshit, but you know what? Send me to send me to Vietnam or something. I'll run the Vietnamese division because I'm not dealing with your ass no more. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:09

Give me a regional publication his little moment in the sun at the end when he got to go. I was like, okay, I got some thousands. Yeah, he got to give his speech and um on behalf of Runway and everything. And I mean, obviously by the end of the movie, he got to keep his job when uh it was looking like he might lose it. I will say he is like one character he he he handles betrayal very well.

SPEAKER_02 41:34

He just keeps on going. Yeah. So does Andy Loki, and he keeps it moving. But my thing with Nigel, it was like, I just I never placed like what did his character want, like career-wise. Because everyone else you kind of see what they want, what they're angling at with him. Is it just like, does he want to just have a good time, mentor other people? Does he want to get to the back? Is it truly just like he loves the art direction? He doesn't want to go up. And they definitely could have fleshed that out a little bit more to understand why he made the decisions he did make. But otherwise, it seems like he's just, you know, happy being a gay accessory, which I was like, wow. Well, that's the thing. That's what really happened.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

Yeah, like for me, I feel like I can kind of assume or guess that that is it, that he just like he loves his job and wants to stay there. But like I shouldn't have to assume or guess it. Like, I should know it by the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 42:21

Right. Or like what's keeping him so runway, runway, runway, you know? Yeah. I mean, I I I definitely see that they're established as like the pinnacle of it, but right. Well, now someone someone would have came with a better offer by now.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Like, right. Well, and that's the thing is like if you were to, if you were to maybe cut out Andy's pointless love interest storyline, like that's going on the side, we maybe would have had a few extra minutes of screen time available. Because like really, just you literally just need a few extra minutes with Nigel to kind of, you know, maybe one extra scene to like establish his motives better.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Yeah. Does he want to be famous himself, like La Roe? Just does he want to be the star? Like I could have explored that. Now Nigel would never be as messy as La Row. No, but he might get a good enough lace front.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

He might get a good enough lace front. Can you can you imagine if if like during the fashion week episode like scenes at the end, if if Nigel walked in wearing inches, a bust down in straight?

SPEAKER_02 43:14

I think Andy would have said the same thing she said to Emily.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

Love the hair. Whatever she said. Nice hair. See, if I if I saw Emily's hair at the end, I give um Do you remember on Real House of New York City when Ramona had that really tight, like that she had that ponytail was pulled back really tight, and Tensley and Tensley's mom was like, Oh, I love it. It's very it's what'd she say? It's very attractive. That's what I would have said.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

I'd be like, but why is the bob all like it's giving Dora? I mean, why you go Dora? You want you going with the blonde Dora? I don't know. I think her bob is tight. It wasn't even tight, it was just like, I don't know, Dora. It was bad. It was really bad. I hope it was a way. I was just like, I mean, I knew it was giving bad breakup hair. I knew that man left her. The moment I saw her sitting there at that scene, I was like, oh, she's about to go tell Andy she's single now because that's um I got left ass hair.

SPEAKER_01 44:12

Well, on on on the top topic of Emily, I mentioned to you before that she was my favorite character in the original movie. And honestly, I still really liked her in this movie, and I wanted to see her win. I wanted I really I wanted to see the plan succeed.

SPEAKER_02 44:25

I mean, I knew it wouldn't succeed, but it just felt so like slapped in. Like, yeah. I guess she was supposed to be like, not like the major villain. I guess that's, you know, Mindy Kalen, baby daddy. But like supposed to be like a subplot, but even then, it felt more like she was like, you know, this is my chance. I'm gonna go for it. Rather than she was plot in on the long term. I think she was probably like, you know, in for it at the beginning, because I was like, well, why not I be editor G? You know? Right. It felt very like opportunistic rather than evil, which maybe is just Emily to a T.

unknown 44:56

Right.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

What thing, yeah, because I think she was never, I think even in the first movie, like where Miranda was like the true villain, like Emily was like a bitch, like and everything, and she was not very kind to Andy at times. But I mean, she was never like, you know, she's the type of person, she'll talk shit, but she's not gonna like push you in front of a bus or something.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Right, she's not gonna like ruin your like she's not gonna file a fake HR complaint.

SPEAKER_01 45:15

She doesn't talk shit, you know? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. She's just gonna set, she's gonna what'd she say in the first uh episode like are we are you on your way to the ugly skirt convention? It's like the opposite. It's like the opposite of Ashley Darby. Right. That's in Ash. That's like I I mean, yeah, Ashley Darby's gonna try to ruin your fucking life. Same with the thing with Giselle. Um Bryant, not the model. Um we didn't think so.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

We didn't think so.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

But um, yeah, Emily in this movie, I was kind of hoping to shoot one. And my thing is like, and this has been this has happened in both movies now. In both movies, we've seen Miranda be Miranda, like an absolute bitch, um, and just be like this horrible, horrible person that will screw over and cut out and like cut everyone in order to like self-preserve or advance herself. Yet in both movies, we've seen the same plot point with her where like her position is at risk. Um and Andy, and I feel like they want us as well to feel sorry for her. And I'm like, I don't feel bad for this bitch. Um, I know they're not just gonna fire you.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

You're gonna get like a nice little severance package with stock options.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

Right. Well, and like in the first movie, she kind of saves herself by be doing some snake shit. And in this movie, she's just kind of saved because Andy feels bad for her and wants to help her. And I'm like, and I just I've never understood why. So I'm like, she is a cutthroat ass bitch. Like, she's Andy's too nice. That's how Emily played her ass. That's yeah, that's a thing. And that's part of why I wanted Emily to win because I was like, yeah, fuck, fuck Miranda. Um I I was a little bit disappointed by that. Um I was like, shit, like what like like that that would have been a good way to kind of gag the to audience to be like, oh yeah, Miranda did get her ass fired.

SPEAKER_02 46:55

Can you imagine that's the end of the movie?

SPEAKER_01 46:57

It's just yeah, just her packing up her desk and Emily's walking to cacola. That would have been good. I would have, I would have liked that better than the ending we got. No, I think people would have been pissed. People would have been pissed. Right. I would I would have gagged. I would have gagged. But that's my thing is I'm just like, I don't understand why all the other characters have to bend over backwards to like save Miranda's ass when Miranda, like literally, I mean, literally in this movie, she was ready to let all of those bitches get cut. She was ready to let Nigel go, Andy go, like everyone was gonna get cut.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

And she did admit that like Andy had to wake her up after a while and snap her out of her stupor. Because she would literally was just like, I guess, reacting to everything. Yeah. She was losing power by the day, both in her industry and the you know, and the company as a whole, like the position of it. So it's probably tough for her. She was their retirement down the barrel, but clearly she didn't want to go. But I do think we saw a more human side. I don't think she was as evil as in the first movie. Yeah. Outside of this little quips to Andy, maybe it wasn't, it didn't seem as much punching down because she seemed to be much nicer to Amari than anyone else.

SPEAKER_01 47:58

I don't know. Well, I feel like with Miranda in this movie, they really, I think a big point of it was that they were kind of making it that she's not like in the first movie, she was scary. And I feel like in this movie she's not. She's not really intimidating or scary because she really is in a lot of ways powerless. And we kind of see what I think is funny as far as showing Miranda's development is instead of showing her changing as a person and maybe becoming like growing and becoming a better person, instead it's more so like the industry and the world around her has changed and she has no choice but to adapt. Right. Um and that's why her twins don't call her ass, because we don't see that in the movie. Well, I think, and like seeing like her kind of having to hang up her own coat, like is kind of a moment of that. And um, seeing her like in those meetings, like you said, where Amari's kind of correcting her. Because in the original movie, like, well, first of all, Amari would have been too scared to correct her if this was a character in the original movie. Um, but also like in the original movie, if somebody did correct her like that, she would have given them an icy, dirty ass look, and that would have been it. And she definitely would have had Caleb Pearson's character fired the first time she saw him. Right. Well, we also see what I thought was interesting too that we didn't see in the first movie, but we see in this one, is that we see um kind of this like, which is like very, you know, I think relevant to the real world, is we see a lot of like, um, when it comes to like her female colleagues and stuff, they're respectful of her. But then when we see her interacting with the men in her industry or the men around her, these wealthy men, they're very condescending, disrespectful, talk down to her. Um, you know, like I feel like we see a lot of that. And I mean, that's very real because, you know, in a lot of these industries and a lot of these corporations and a lot of these businesses, you know, even if you are the the highest ranking woman in the room, um, it's very common for, you know, the the most powerful man in the room to just talk shit.

SPEAKER_02 49:56

Yeah. Ignore you, yeah. Ignore your, you know, opinion. The further other male team members who probably don't have your title.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

Yeah. Well, I think especially for Miranda as an older woman in an industry, I feel like a lot of times, you know, when you combine the misogyny and the sexism with the ageism, then it's a whole newball game. Right.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

I don't even like you also get like the generation mismatch with that. You even saw it with like how BJ Novak was punching her shoulder and shit. Try to act all casual. She was like, is this man touching me? She's like, what the hell? The scene in the cafeteria was so funny though. Because he was like, Oh, you want to get lunch? And she's like, I can get a little reservation. He was like, nah, the calf's good. And he had first of all the consultants lined up was a gag, but everyone's stopping and staring, looking at Meryl. Miranda went up in the cafeteria. Like, what is she doing here?

SPEAKER_01 50:45

The fact that she didn't even know a c they had a cafeteria. One, and I think I can't remember it was Nigel or somebody else, but somebody was like, She's never even been to that floor before. It was Nigel, because I was cackling at that. Yeah. Which I mean, I believe because I I I I believe that Miranda, like, she walks into the lobby, goes to the elevator, goes to her floor, and that's it. Right. And she goes to a little lunch reservation.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

The car's probably waiting for her outside. But I'm surprised she never even like on a busy day had somebody go pick up a salad from there.

SPEAKER_01 51:12

I guess she had somewhere to deliver it or they ran and got it, but well, no, because I remember in in the first movie, she I remember she would sh um a few times she gave Andy like she like would like speed read and order to Andy and expect her to remember that shit without even getting a chance to write it down. And Andy would have to go pick that shit up.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

Right. Nowadays it would just be getting her sweet green order up the fucking pickup shelf.

SPEAKER_01 51:33

Yeah. I did notice there was a lot of like um in this movie what? Product placer. Well that too. But I also didn't notice there was a lot of like um there was a lot of um shame around like travel accommodations, like um like Andy having to take the subway. Um that was Shady. Yeah, Miranda and all of them um having to um fly.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

Yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

And they also said no more private cars. We gotta use Uber now. Right. Which I mean, yeah, that's I mean, that's like all these industries now. They're cutting costs wherever they can. Right.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

I'm just trying to imagine Miranda's ass using Uber, looking at the little app on the phone, trying to find the driver. She looked horrified when they said Uber. She didn't. She was like, huh? I know I know what's her name. I'm gonna have to be ordering them anyway, Miss Samari. Right.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

I think, yeah, Miranda's not even have to be the one to arrange any of that. So I don't know why she's gonna.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

They also they also said that and you know, had all this horror, but we we we go to we go to Milan, they're gallivanting at dinners. Meryl's in this giant ass suite.

unknown 52:40

Right.

SPEAKER_02 52:40

So I don't really feel like it's still impacting them.

unknown 52:43

Right.

SPEAKER_02 52:44

I don't see them taking Uber after that. We don't see no Uber product placement, so I don't know. I didn't really seem to make an impact, but you know what? It was enough of a gag. It was enough of a gag.

SPEAKER_01 52:56

Right. Well, do you want to talk about some of our favorite side characters? I don't necessarily want to discuss all of them because I mean I feel like there were a lot of side characters, but there's just a few that stood out to me.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

Yeah, let's get into our icon um Andy's assistant.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Yes, Miss Jen. I loved her. She was definitely my favorite side character in this movie. Um I think that what I liked about her is I feel like when they first introduced her, they were it kind of felt like they were like making a joke about like Gen Z workers and stuff. Because you see a lot of these articles and a lot of people like talking shit about Gen Z like entering the workforce and everything and how they can't handle certain things or the expectations. And I actually there was even a thing where like um Andy and Nigel were like time, like, I am so worried about the future, the future generations for work in the workforce. Oh, yeah. Um well, that was right before she done save the day because that was when she was like, Oh, you want fro? Yeah, yeah. They were like, huh? That's it, yeah. And that's and that's the thing is like Jen ended up being a real fucking G. Like she, like I first of all, this was illegal, but she she secretly recorded the conversation. Well, it was in public, so do they have a right to private? And the funny thing is when she told Andy about it, I thought Andy was gonna be like ethically horrified by that. But Andy was like, oh my god, I'm gay.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

Well, she was about to get laid off, so she needed to get to the T. Right. Which you know what? You could say it's illegal, but I don't think there's an expectation of privacy in the cafeteria of your workplace. Like if you see your CEO sitting out with 12 consultants in the cafeteria, let's go start lay off. I would start layoff rumors even by the end of the conversation. Well, see in the icon. They should have booked the room.

SPEAKER_01 54:37

I mean, realistically, they would have booked the room, but you know, movie magic, movie magic. I think when I thought, well, yeah, when Jim was kind of coming to Andy with the T, I thought she was gonna say that she like walked by and like overheard something, like she eavesdropped. Right. So I was shocked when she was like, oh no, I've recorded the conversation. Dropping that phone down. But you know, Jim was an icon. Yeah. That thing else, she didn't have a lot of screen time, but I felt like I felt like she was memorable in every scene she was in.

SPEAKER_02 55:02

Yeah. Her and Amari were definitely giving like the Gen Z diverse versions of Emily and Andy. Right. So you see their quirks, how they present, how they handle the job specifically. And even with Jin, how like it was very Andy-ish how she stuck up to this opportunity because pretty much how she got the role of Andy's assistant is that every intern got the interview, that kind of spot opened up, but nobody wanted to be on Andy's boring ass editorial team.

SPEAKER_01 55:26

So she got it by default. She took the opportunity and she kind of had like that. She was kind of like, she seemed she kind of came off like a little bit insecure and anxious at first, and a little bit like, oh my gosh, people please her. Um, yeah, well, um, I and like I think Amari to Emily is a good comparison because Amari really is like just like, oh, I'm not a bitch. I know. Right, she's good at the job. She's like, I'm getting promoted. I won't be able to do it.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

She loves fashion more, she has like a passion for it. Right. Because she was ignoring and I mean Andy the whole time until she was like, Oh yeah, I wore some stuff. She was like, Oh, the newspaper has whatever meant.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

Yeah, the mom. She was intrigued. She was in and wearing the couture clothes and everything. And then as soon as Andy said she gave it away, immediately again, she's like, Nope, I'm interested. You're not my personal. Yeah, she's like, You're yeah, who gives away Chanel? I think is what she said. Um, she was immediately like, okay, yeah, no, we're not, we're not kinful.

SPEAKER_02 56:14

Umly. Hopefully they could meet someday. Or maybe they did meet somewhere. They should have had a scene, like a one-in-off mini scene.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

Yeah, now you mentioned it. I kind of wish there had been a scene between Amari and Emily. I think that would have been fun. Emily's up the poetry. You should work for me. Yeah. Um I also I kind of thought that um Cal is it Caleb Heron or Huron or Huron? Because I I know he's I know he's like a fun. He's kind of like a Caleb Hearson, I think. Is it Hearson? I don't know, but uh it was kind of funny when I saw him because I recognized him. I was like, oh my god, it's him. Oh Heron, Heron. Oh, I I was adding an S to this boy name. But um, yeah, him him being an assistant was kind of funny. Um once again, he didn't really have that many moments or roles. Um yeah, he was he was there being around. Um did you know I had this part? Um you're gonna ignore that too.

SPEAKER_04 57:08

Um I thought that um Emily's man um. Yeah. Something with a bee. The last name was a bee.

SPEAKER_01 57:26

Oh, it was Benji or something. Yeah. But um Lucy Little. Yeah, I thought he was fun. I thought he was like kind of a funny comic relief character and stuff, and just like such a good parody of just these like douchebag billionaire tech rows.

SPEAKER_02 57:42

Yeah. No, his aloofness was kind of funny. It was like definitely more tangential to BJ is that we weren't supposed to take him like as the serious villain, more of like a fool. Even the things with Emily, he was like, Yeah, she made me shave my chest hair. Right. His delivery was good, his comedic timing was landy. Yeah. So yeah. No, I like I didn't mind him. And of course, you know, I love me some Lucy Lou, so I was excited to see her in Eddie community. I I loved the little scenes we got with her. Right, looking as gorgeous as ever. And she done save the day because she ended up buying out the company, so I know. She keeps everyone's jobs with with that man's money, with that man's money.

SPEAKER_01 58:19

Right. I thought that was funny the way that yeah, just the way that she it she kind of tied back in at the end. Right. Which I was expecting it because I was like, who would buy it right now?

SPEAKER_02 58:27

And I was like, oh, Lucy Lu as, Lucy Lu as that lady got money. Right. I I didn't realize she was in this. Maybe I wasn't watching too many trailers or press or whatever. I was like, I just want to see the movie.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

So when her name popped up in the beginning, I was like, Lucy Lou. I think her inclusion, because I didn't see her in any of the promotion, I didn't know she was gonna be in this either. So I feel like it was supposed to be a gag. Gotcha. Okay, good. Because I was gagged. Yeah. That thing, yeah. Her and her and the lady Gaga cameo, because I had no idea Gaga was gonna be in this either, so that gagged me too. I just thought it was known, I just missed it. That was a gaga. It was like a long-last thing, too, that she had a whole performance. Watsing, when earlier in the movie when they set it up, like I like when Nigel was like, Well, we could call in a paper for a certain pop star, and Miranda was like, No, I hate that bitch. Um, I was like, Who are they talking about? Yeah, I don't know why I'm like Christina Aguilera. You're not like me so Christina Aguilera. I thought it was just gonna, for the rest of the movie, like it was gonna remain like an unnamed pop star.

SPEAKER_02 59:21

So then like when Gaga popped, I was like, Gaga looking bad as how was she trying to pop and Miranda got a big girl?

SPEAKER_01 59:29

I literally in the movie theater when when she watched it and there was gaga, I was like, I was giving CM myself.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

Oh, that was me when Eric fell. But yeah, the Gaga, you could tell she was helped she was in there. Yeah. As angry as hell, because you don't like me.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

Yeah, I know. Who would say that? The fucking, the, the dynamic, well, especially because in both of these movies, like, you don't really see people like really give it back to Miranda much, like in terms of like her just nastiness. Um, so like watching her and Gaga kind of have that little bitch off moment, like it was kind of funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:03

Yeah, it also establishes you know Miranda more in the universe. And after she leaves the dressing room, Gaga go turn around to her team, like, who let her in here? Angry aside. Yeah, and I and then we got like a two-minute performance of Gaga just at this fashion show. I have to look up because it looked like a real, there's no way they put this together just for a fucking eight, eight, you know, two minutes of B-roll.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:24

So they actually did film at like a real fashion show in Milan, which is interesting. Well, no, that's from what I understand, like during the kind of during the montage where um Andy was making all the calls and Miranda was going to all these fashion shows and stuff. From what I understand, like Merrill Street was actually going to all these fashion shows dressed like as Mer as um um as Miranda.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:45

You know, Stanley Tucci too.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:48

It was the Dolce Ngabbana Spring Summer 2026 PJ Obsession Show. Okay, spring summer.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:54

Yeah. Well, and what with Gaga's cameo, I I love um a celebrity that can kind of like play like an unflattering like parody version of themselves in a movie. Like I think that's hilarious. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

And since we're at the celebrity cameo portion, I know you don't give a fuck about basketball, but I thought the Carl Anthony Towns um cameo was funny. Because I don't watch the game, but I was like, it's great to be a New Yorker. The Knicks won again. Because they did this with a series, and I was celebrating just like Anne. I love being a New Yorker. I don't watch them boys, but I'm happy when they win.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

I thought, I thought that Emily having lunch with Donatello Versace was hilarious. That was that one was funny. Yeah, she turned around cursing around Italian.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:37

Yeah, Emily Blind thought you knew Italian. And if she didn't, that was good practice because it sounded fluent. Right. When and and the fact, I'm like, oh, are you gonna talk to Donatella like that? Right. Donatella just took it, so clearly that's how they that's how they communicate. That's the repertoire. That's how they get down. But Donnatella made sense because she's in the fashion world, but I think there was a touch too much of the celebrity cameos. Obviously, you have to establish the world, but it was like it was given like too much B-roll at some point. Like we had the party that um we got Winnie Harlow. Winnie Harlow was there. We had like this whole party, we had all these fashion events. There's like another gala. Hugh Jackman couldn't even show up. He was mentioned off camera.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

That was one moment from the Australian man I did enjoy. Because he was just like, you know what? Australians have to say hi to each other, which I was like, you know what? I'll I'll get I'll give him that. I believe we don't even get Hugh Jackman on camera. They just they just mention him and he walks away. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:33

We have to get Hugh Jackman. We have Marc Jacobs making an appearance, we have Naomi Campbell making an appearance. I did not even notice Naomi ass. Yeah, it was quick. It was similar to like Naomi and La Roach. They were both just like a quick moment.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:46

Yeah, I saw La Roach and the inches. Yeah. I I I probably saw Marc Jacobs, but I'm saying I can't pick that man out of a lineup, so I probably didn't see him. Ashley Graham was there, Heidi Clark. Ashley Graham was there. Ashley Graham everywhere selling products and doing things. Um probably there were a lot of those like gorgeous like South Sudanese models whose name I don't know, but whose faces I know and everything. I'm sure some other white women models who I don't names I don't know. Kendo was mentioned. Kendo did not appear, but Kendo was a plot line.

unknown 1:03:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:20

On why some brand hated Emily.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:22

Right. Just o overall, I would say good side characters, good cameos. Like you said, maybe there was a few too many, like pointless celebrity cameos, but just a touch. Just a touch.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:33

You know, I just too much random B-roll. It was just like I guess I you know, runtimes I I feel like they need to be two hours now. No one just wants to release a 90-minute movie. Right. With movie theater prices, you know what? I don't mind. So give me more movie. But I thought can you make it cohesive?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:51

Right. Well, yeah. That's it. But I just I I don't like because I don't mind a longer runtime, but yeah, I definitely don't like it when it's a longer runtime and I feel like the runtime is being padded out by like pointless stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:04

Especially in the beginning. Like if I'm feeling it at the end, that could just be my movie endurance, like with Barbie, where I was getting restless when they would just walk around a white wall. But if I if I feel at the beginning is, you know, a little pointless and there's things that just whole storylines that could have been removed, it's a direction problem, not a me being a little tired and antsy problem.

unknown 1:04:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:23

Which with Barbie, I feel like I was getting a little antsy, but yeah. You know how I feel about that NC. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:29

Well, uh overall, like with everything said and done, would you say this is a good sequel?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:37

I wouldn't say it ruined the legacy. It's like the child you have that's like you didn't fuck up your life, but you're not doing much. You know the it's not that they live at home still, but it's like, you know, they could be back in six months. Yeah. That's how I feel about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:54

Yeah, I think overall, like I said earlier, that I feel like this movie did um prove its right to exist. You know, like it it it it was worthwhile, like it had a reason to exist. I feel like for the most part, our main characters they got some level of development, they got arcs, the story moved along. We got and I felt like um I felt like they did a good job kind of nodding to the original without making it too much or relying on like nostalgia bait from the original.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:23

Um I agree. It wasn't too much. I think it was adapt for like a newer generation. I think if there was somebody No, like they're like 14, 15 watching it for the first time, and then they go back to the older one. I think it's like an interesting viewing experience. But overall, like, you know, I'm not mad. I spent my little $20 out of the theater and got my popcorn and sat down. But if I was unemployed, I might have been a little angrier. Yeah. Right, I don't have the budget for this bullshit. Right. But now I can just go Gallivant. But speaking of the theater and the previews, I want to see backrooms. Oh, yeah, I'm really excited for backrooms.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:59

I'm really excited. I didn't even know about that shit. And I was like, wait, I want to see this. Mm-hmm. I also, when I sat down in my theater, they had a I don't know if you've ever seen Practical Magic before, but they had a trailer for Practical Magic 2. And I was like, I didn't even know there was a Practical Magic 2 coming out. I don't even know what Practical Magic is. It's it's a witchy movie with Nicole Kidman and S and Sandra Bullock.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:18

Oh, I like I like I like those two actresses, so I'm intrigued.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:22

They they draw me to the box office.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:24

They draw me to the box office. I I don't know the exact year that Practical Magic came out, but I know it was like a 90s movie. Um but yeah, no, I didn't even know there was a practical magic, too. So I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:34

Well, are Nicole and Sandra in there? Are they coming back? Yeah. Are they pies and their roles? Okay. Or pies and their roles. You don't, you don't like to be some Sandy B, so I might be there. And you know, Nicole Kidman always trying to get somebody to go to the movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:46

Yeah. I you know what? I I respect Nicole Kidman's dedication to keeping theaters alive. Um let's all go to the lobby. She needs to remix it.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:55

Let's all go to the lobby. And sneak in some alcohol. Cool. I'm down for that. Um pour a little rum in your coke.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:04

It's gonna be a good picture. But yeah, overall, I would say this this movie succeeded. I mean, it's definitely financially succeeding. I just wanted to point out that um the first Devil Wears Prada back in 2006, it had a total box office return of $326.7 million. Um versus the Devil Wears Prada 2. It's been out for less than two weeks, and it has generated in box office as of today, at least, $343.6 million.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:38

Damn. Well, it's probably less adjusted for inflation, but it'll definitely catch up. So those are great numbers. But I mean, it's what they expected. This was enough of an IP and strength, and also it was a good time. I feel like there's nothing else really out. So if you want to unless like there's super mal super Mario, but I feel like that's incremental enough. Like you'll you would take your kids and then figure out, like, if you have kids but you want to go see it, you would figure it out to go again. Like it's not like, oh, if I can want to see one movie, like you know? So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:05

When I think just like I think it's like a highly anticipated sequel. I think the fact that this franchise has been inactive for 20 years um helps a lot because it really is. But not like a franchise. It's not like people are overexposed by it. Right. Well, I think yeah, it's not like this is like the fifth movie or something in the in the series.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:28

It's not like it's the third screen movie in like three years. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:32

Um or the 27 Scooby-Doo adaptation, which I will watch, but well, well, I think it's about time for a game that you came up with us for us to play before we wrap things up today.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:46

Which, you know, I do I do love a love little activity, but I was thinking of what celebrity oh yeah. What celebrity cameos did we deserve in the double wheels product too? That's what I want to ask you and kind of get into. Right. So who was somebody you would have liked to see, regardless if they fit or not, if they're in the fashion world, but you know, who deserved a quick little two-second cameo?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:08

So there are two that I would have wanted to see, like the two big ones. I wanted to see Zendaya and I wanted to see Rihanna. Zendaya, Rihanna.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:15

Ooh, I forgot about Rihanna. But Ryan's basically got like around the little Met Gala-esque things that they throw, like Rihanna's the queen of that. But Rihanna gives me she was contacted but didn't check her email.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:25

Right. One Zendaya, you literally could have just had her like next to La Roach and they could have just been kikiing together.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:31

I like what at one of the events. I had Zendaya too, but I was like, Zendaya was filming so many fucking things last year. I'm sure I'm sure she wasn't free. Because did she even do Fashion Week last year? That might have been it. I was like, because I think she was trying to do be her little. You know, she likes to pop out when she decides. She's very strategic about when she pops out. So meanwhile, Sydney Sweeney filmed a cameo for this movie and got cut. I was gonna say, meanwhile, Sydney Sweeney will go to the opening of an envelope. Right. She tried to get in this movie, she tried it. Oh, she really was. You're not even being shady. That really happened, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:04

Yeah, no. Sydney Sweeney literally filmed a cameo for this movie and they cut her in post-production. Well, yeah, I mean, there were enough celebrity cameos as is.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:13

So we don't need MAGA Barbie in here dragging everything down.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:17

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:18

Well, you know what? Instead of calling three times, we should have had my favorite basketball player and Angelious, but that's okay. You know I love me some Angelus.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:26

I think we we could have, if we're if we're having, if we're having iconic lesbian athletes, we could have had Britney and her split.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:33

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:35

Oh, Britney.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

I forgot about the split.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:39

She was drawn in the Connecticut Sun.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:42

I'm glad you've even seen that. I love that video. You know what? They should have called BG too. They should have called BG too. Right. I would have been here for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:54

That's a good one. Who do you have next? I don't think I said Zenday and Rihanna. Um I wouldn't have mind this is this is gonna be really stupid, but um, as far as like maybe like a politician, I don't know why, but I feel like seeing Kamala Harris in this would have been funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:13

I feel like there's a now that you said it, the moment you said politician, I knew you were gonna say her, but I could see her with a fresh blowout cackling with an outfit and gown. I could see it. Or Andy interviewing her, or Andy being like, remember when I interviewed Kamala Harris?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:27

And it's like a little flashback, like not the family guy cutaway guess. This is worse than that time I interviewed Kamala Harris. Peter would have a cutaway for that too. That's like it's a this is worse than that time I interviewed Kamala Harris, and it's just Kamala Harris cackling instead of answering questions.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:42

Every question you asked her is just a cackle and looks like still we do an interview just getting pissed. You can hear him just get a piss, trying to ask questions. Are Peter trying to do a debate against Kamala? I don't know. Oh, that's a good one. I I I would have liked to see Kamala Harris too. I like to believe she declined it. I like to believe she declined it. She was like, you know what? I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna lay low right now. Um, I feel like my man, Shat Hanks, deserved to be there. You should have thought everything. Maybe so. Doesn't everyone want their man to work?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:17

Will will you be watching Heated Rivalry Season 2 of Shat Hanks is in it?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:21

I would watch Heated Rivalry Season 2 if Shat Hanks was in it. I am confirming. Okay, okay. Well And I might send some hate mail to his co s his male co-lead, because no, I wouldn't do that, but okay, parasocial.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:39

We're going back to your Tumblr dance.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:42

Oh, not the high school throwback. Well and you know what? You know what while while we're there, Octavia Spencer. She she could show up too.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:53

Okay. I like that. Oh, um you know what?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

I I think I think I would like Angela Oakley. You know what?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:04

You do it too much. You're doing too much. What or you know what? You know what Real Housewife would be there because she bought her way in? Well, before she left her husband, Bronwin Newport. She was at every one of these boozy events somehow. That's I'm like, girl, how much you pay for a ticket to that? Because you was not that famous.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:20

I mean, they could have included, they could have just included the whole cast of a city just to to make a joke about That's true. About people about people who probably shouldn't be there that have bought their way in.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:32

And they would they would pay on the Brandwood Newport. Yeah. They they better not do Jennifer Tilly like that, though. Jennifer Tilly deserves better. Oh, Jennifer Tilly could be there because she actually is like in the fashion circles and whatnot. That's true. That Jennifer that dress you went to the reunion with her own fucking face. Yeah. Iconic. She should have worn that in the cameo.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:50

That would that would have been iconic. Um, but yeah, I mean, those are the main ones I can think of that I would want there.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:56

No same. I mean, I don't also even know the threshold world enough to give Fashion relevant cameos, but that's what I would have wanted to see. Honestly, it would have been funny if they threw an Anna Wintour stem.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

Oh, that would have been funny. Well, especially because I mean, like Anna Wentworth, I know she was pissed when the first movie came out, but over the years she's kind of come around to it and she kind of like just in on the joke.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:16

That's good. I don't think Diana Ross ever came around on Dream Girl. So at least somebody's over.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:22

I'd say I I am glad as far as like cameos that we didn't get, I'm I'm glad that none of the Kardashians snuck their way into this. Slither day. That's true. Even though Tendo was mentioned, but she did not have an appearance. Yeah. I'm I'm glad that Kim didn't find a way to slither her way into this production. Do you think she tried? Do you think she tried? Oh, I'm sure she did. Oh, she definitely trying to get a she was definitely trying to get a scene wearing something that she got from a fucking deceased person, probably probably one of John Bonnet Ramsey's wigs or something. I don't know. That's too much. That's too bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:57

That is too much, but I said it. They should have had Miranda do a line about don't let Kim Kardashian in my closet.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:02

That would have been funny. If I'd not they could have slipped it in because there was that part in the meeting where she said something about she was joking about how she was gonna off herself. Oh yeah. And Amari was like, you can't joke about that. And she's like, What? I'm not saying I didn't say I was gonna kill someone else yet. She threw it in right there. Don't let that bitch in my closet.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:20

Yeah, do not let Kim Kardashian wear any of my my pants. Any of my archival pieces. I feel like Miranda would say archival pieces. She wouldn't say out. Do not let that grave robber up in there. Well. And that's why Lucy Lou got the cameo that she probably wanted. I wonder if how if like how they landed on Lucy Lou if they were just like Lucy fucking Lou and then she agreed. Like it's given like they offered it. They had Lucy Lou in mind and she said yes.

unknown 1:15:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:49

That's what it's giving to me. I'm sure, I'm sure, because I mean I feel like in my mind, the thing with Lucy Lou, especially at this point, in my mind, A, she does not audition for things, she gets offered roles. That's true. And B, I feel like anything she's in, she is the first choice. I don't think, like, I don't think Lucy Lou gets a role because somebody else said no.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:10

That's true. Maybe for Charlie's Angels, because they wanted to be all white, but somebody was like, you know what? Let's mix it up because it was 2000. But nowadays, yeah. Yeah. And I feel like Lucy Lou just still has like star power and verbs to her name. It's like, yeah, it's a star power that's like really doesn't really exist anymore. That Lucy Lou still has. And people still want to see her in place.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:30

At least I do. Oh, me too. I I I'm very excited. I as soon as I saw Lucy Lou, I knew you were gonna be happy. I was all right, I'm happy.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

I do appreciate Be Some Lucy Lou. Along with Takara Jones, who I've yet to mention in this episode that I feel obligated to.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:47

Well, yeah, I mean she is a fixture on the podcast. But um, yeah, because I mean I love Lucy Lou, but I know you like love Lucy Liu.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:53

I I appreciate Be Some Lucy Lou. Not enough to watch Elementary, but I know. Did you watch her season of Wild Women Kill? I started it. She was good. That was one of those shows you made me start. I never finished. I I watched our fucking Santa Claus movie for her with the fucking rock and the talking polar bear. So the red one. So I I I tuned in for some Lucy Lou pictures.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:20

We also watched her Psyches in the City episode. We did, we did.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:26

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SPEAKER_04 1:17:56

And you know I'm curious, do you think like a lot of our viewers and listeners are in LA? Um, I'm sure I'm sure there's some. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:08

I mean, you always say they love interracial over there. I mean, uh do you do you not look around interracial capital of the world to me, of the country. Yeah, I I I see what I see in Running Canyon. Yeah. I see what I see. And I feel like we we we get more couple accusations in LA than anywhere else. Yeah. Not New York Fashion Week.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:30

Um a wonderful rest of your week. I hope that you too can experience the joy of an interracial friendship. Um wow. And if you are a mother, happy belated Mother's Day. Yeah, happy belated Mother's Day. Um, and if you're if you're not a mother, well, I hope you did something nice for a lady in your life.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:50

And if you don't like your mother, rate us five stars against her, I guess. I don't know. Yes, find us on cameo and we'll and we'll and we'll rant about her for you. We should be though. But y'all have a wonderful day and keep that shit on a real note.