Reality Rewatch: Married to Medicine Season 2

Aidan and Noah continue their monthly season by season rewatch of Married to Medicine and welcome in new cast members Lisa Nicole and Dr. Heavenly Kimes. How do the cohosts react to the downfall of Quad and Mariah's relationship? Have the cast shakeups improved the dynamic between the women? How does this cast of women continue to deliver?

This is the second of twelve (or more) episodes in the Married to Medicine rewatch series.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:06

Welcome back, Noetakers. This is Noah Aaron with the Honor Real Note Podcast. And this is Aiden. And since I am now dating a med school student, I deserve to be on Married to Medicine.

SPEAKER_00 0:15

I agree. I agree. You should be on Married to Medicine. Um, I think them girls are going on their 13th season now. So right.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

And my relationship is as real as Phaedra's when she ends up on the cast of the show, which we have a few episodes to get to Phaedra, but Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Well, so are are you coming on the show just until you finally get approved to go back to the real houses of Atlanta? Is that what you're doing?

SPEAKER_03 0:36

Maybe so. Maybe so. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Mia Thornton's gonna try that. She's probably looking her way through medical rosters in Atlanta Raspberry.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

I'm sure she's doing anything and everything she can to try to get back on television. She gotta claw her way back.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

Um I mean, I'm sure if she really wanted to be on the Zeus network, they would have her, but I think even she knows that she's a little better than that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

I hope so. I mean, I don't know. She's she's clearing out apartments and shit. Don't rent to her.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

Um that's true. Zeus might, you know, Natalie don't play that. Now he's gonna be like, I have to nail the furniture to album. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

That's crazy. Well, let's let's talk about nailing down this series that we got going on. So this is officially the second installment in our Married to Medicine rewatch series. So we are a couple of podcasters that shockingly enough, we've never been like Married to Medicine girlies. We've been Housewife girlies, we've been you know a few other Bravo shows. I know you were watching Martha's Vineyards, at least you were. You know what? Not a lot of other people were, it got canceled. Well, well. And everyone I know is talking about Caucasian Summerhouse. And I have never watched that show. I don't even know. And like, and and it's it's it's been airing. I'm like, it's not even the summer, but I guess they told me the summer. Well, they fell in the summer now. Well, it needs to be like Big Brother and they need to broadcast it live. Um, you know Brothel don't play that. They can't, you know, spin together some narratives. Right, exactly, exactly. Um, but yes, so we are now on season two of Married to Medicine. Basically, what we're doing is we are trying to binge watch one season a month, kind of come back here, talk to you guys about it, kind of, I don't know if I would necessarily call it like a recap of the season, but more so like I guess maybe a little bit of a retrospective. We kind of go back, talk about the the characters, about the storylines, the moments and stuff, and what we thought of it. Um, if you guys want to, of course, go back just last month, you can see uh listen to or watch our season one coverage. Um, but we are back for season two, and we really had a great time with season one. Um, if you watched that episode or listened to it, you would know we really enjoyed ourselves. And I think we also had a good time with this season, too. So Mary to Medicine so far seems to be a winner of a series.

SPEAKER_03 2:56

Right. And we, you know, come out swinging a little bit with the storylines and an expanded season, going up from like 10 or so episodes to, you know, whopping 14 plus the reunion. So you know, an expanded series order and to take us back and to set the moment in time. Season two of Married to Medicine premiered on April 6th, 2014. So a little over 12 years ago, and it drew 2.4 million viewers on premiere on Bravo. So crazy, you know, strong premiere in conjunction with the the boom of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I'm sure they premiered, you know, tangentially to each other or like close enough that it was kind of a back-to-back moment, as we kind of see now. But you know, people were excited for the show. We see the addition of two new castmates, and we start off with a bang because one of the strongest alliances from last season is coming to a downfall between Mariah and Quad. And this storyline kind of permeates the first half of the season, maybe a little bit throughout the entirety, but the first half of the season is definitely a reaction to this off-camera kind of Mariah Quad impossible.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Yeah, which is interesting because I really like the first season, I saw them as being like very tight. Like I really, I mean, I know that a lot of times in these shows like friendships and duos and whatnot aren't always built to last. You know, not everyone can be the green-eyed bandits or the bros from Miami and go the distance. So, I mean, a lot of times these shows do destroy friendships, but I don't know. I really, at the very least, I didn't expect them to have a fallout like as early as the second season. Right. I did not think that. And also, like, I thought if they would have a fallout, like it would be like a slow, gradual thing. We would kind of see the beginning of it on camera. So the fact that it like kind of happened off camera and we're seeing the fallout now is kind of like what gagged me.

unknown 4:36

Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:36

It was just like, oh, they just got right to it. But no, I agree. I definitely thought it would come, but definitely maybe like slowly over one season, we see some bickering, some confessionals, a reunion fake makeup, and then it all goes, you know, the next season all coast to shit. But didn't quite happen like that. We got straight up to Yadalin fighting at STK. There was an off-camera fight at STK that is referenced a lot, but I'm just like, Yashia just had the cameras up at STK at this point.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

But at least or at least other cast members are there to co-sign some shit. Because we get very different stories between Mariah and Quad. You know, if you go by Quad's uh version of events, it was physical. If you go by Mariah's version of events, it was very much not physical.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

Right. And I don't know. In the recount of events, it's hard because Mariah does her whole sociopath thing where she's not really giving anything. It's kind of just like, wow. That like Shakespeare wrote himself, going on a soliloquy, a little over dramatic, and it's like, are you are you putting on? Like you feel the emotion, but it's like that. But it's a little mutt. So it's just like you don't naturally believe anyone, but that's I don't know. I'm I'm biased towards people who actually show emotions.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

Right. Well, that's the thing, is I feel like there could be arguments made for both of them, giving me reason to think that they either one could be lying or at least over exaggerating or under or downplaying or whatever. Um, especially because I mean, like, you know, with Mariah, she had the fight in the season with Troya that got physical and everything like that. So then you kind of enter in, like, okay, like, you know, Mariah's gotten physical in the past. Like, who's to say she wouldn't do it here, especially off camera when she was willing to do it on camera? Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 6:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:16

But the whole essence of that was like, oh, Mariah's like, oh, I made you this, the sh you wouldn't be on the show. Without me, I gave you this. This platform. Yeah. And with also like a mixing of words, what they exactly said, which I don't think is important. It's it's clear that Mariah likes to pull rank based off of her EP title and you know, putting the group together, which everyone who's the center of the point on these shows likes to say that and do that. But yeah, I do feel Mariah brings it to the next level, to the point where it's like if the whole cast is not taking your side yet again, which we see happen again this season, yeah, you may be a little fucking annoying about this.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I think that's the thing with Mariah, is that we mentioned this with our previous episode covering season one, but I think her downfall really is like her need to be the self-asserted Queen B. She's the leader, she's in charge, and um, like you said, she pulls rank and everything like that. And it just seems like these women, because like last season with the physical altercation between her and Toya, like, even though they both participated in it, the women were very quick to kind of give Toya a pass for it while holding it against Mariah. Um so I think really that's the thing is like it just shows that these women really don't like Mariah. Like, yeah, they're like basically the moment they have a reason to exclude her or go after her or ice brought or whatever, like they're quick to do it the moment they have the moment they have an excuse.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

I know. And it's just like, are they threatened or is she annoying? Yeah. Which I don't necessarily think they should be threatened. I think what Mariah's problem is, is that her she's making her whole storyline and personality, like insisting on like I made the social group. Yeah. In a similar fashion to Cherice, where it's like, okay, but can you do something else? Like you're not sure. It's kind of like you say that, but truthfully, I like, you know, I appreciate Mariah, but it's like you're one of the more least interesting ones. I would say her and Lisa are the two least interesting, at least, you know, in their confessionals and their day-to-day and their personalities. Like, you know, I'm not necessarily intrigued by it. I do think Mariah's family life is somewhat interesting. Yeah. So I'll give her that.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

But I do see No other girls shouldn't be threatened. Although I will say, like, I really um I don't know if I would count bullying your husband into getting a hair transplant. I don't know if I count that as a storyline. Um Well that well, about an essential storyline. But yeah, let's get into the Mariah of it all this season. Well, I was I was gonna add on that because I like the Cherice comparison, but also I feel like, especially this season, I really felt this reminded me, like uh Mariah and Quad's like friendship and dynamic of their fallout, it reminded me a lot of the Jill and Bethany fallout on the early seasons of New York City, where kind of Jill kind of was also the connector. She was the one that kind of brought the group together. And Bethany was kind of like the one she took under her wing, the up-and-coming one. And on that show, it seemed like once Bethany kind of had her own success and it really became into her own, Jill kind of turned on her and had this whole beef with her, and it really backfired because the fans very much took Bethany's side. Um, and I feel like Jill never recovered from that and eventually would end up exiting the show like after the following season. Um, so that kind of I I kind of had vibes of that with uh Mariah and Quad's Fallout this season.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

I could definitely see that. Although with that one, it was clear Jill was trying to start a little something up. Yeah. You know, Bethany was like, um, what are you doing here? Yeah, with Quad and Mariah.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Yeah, like this was subject to the nice. It feels a little bit more natural, but I do also feel like I feel like Mariah is, or at least was, overestimating her ability to kind of paint the narrative and control the narrative. Because I feel like she really thought she was gonna make it like all that it was just it was all quad's fault and that she didn't she did nothing wrong. I think she thought she was gonna be able to sell that.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

I definitely think she let that EP title get to her head as if she was in the editing bay. Like you were not in the editing bay. And as quad said at the reunion, you do not hire our fire, you do not sign our checks. Exactly. So maybe it's you know, and I I don't know, from how what I'm familiar with with television production, the executive producer title can be, you know, in name, it can be, you know, it can mean a lot of actual title. Yeah, it can mean a lot of different things. So who really knows? But I think when we got a lot of this EP slash cast member dynamic, we see a lot on baddies. Okay, they're they're a cast member with a little more power. That's what it truly is. So Mariah is essentially Natalie Nud. Oh, Natalie Nunn is essentially Mariah, because this was before baddies. Well, c clearly Mariah ain't got a clause in her contract saying she can't get hit. Well, neither does Natalie. We're only be doing her in once a season. But no, what I do wish, you know, we kind of had with this as we go through this rewatch is kind of like knowing the public perception who were the favorites and whatnot. Like I tried to poke around in forums and social media to get a sense, but I don't think there's like a clear favorite. I don't think these will be yeah, I don't think people necessarily loved Mariah, but I don't know. It it seems like it's a it's definitely how we feel, like on Tambo, everyone gives a little something, but yeah, there's no clear like Nini, and maybe people like to that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

I definitely don't think Mariah was anyone's favorite. Not really, yeah. I've I feel like most of what I've seen from her, like as far as people's uh the way people talk about her and everything, is I mostly see either people that don't like her or people that are just like a little bit more neutral or indifferent. Like I don't see any Mariah Huck stands going to war.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

I mean, A Aiden seems to love better. Aiden seems to love better. He got he got that damn hair transplant. This is in 2014 before the you know Turkey really got their technology together. Right. I did he got that done stateside. I was like, oh. I think I did cackle at the scene of him doing it where he's like, ow, ow, ow, ow, cross crossing his legs. And she's pretending to feel bad outside like oh my baby's going through so much pain.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Yeah, and girl, you put That thing, he didn't even seem to really give a fuck about his hairline. You were the one that pushed for it. Right.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

Put all these insecurities on this man. Could have just got he could have got a little piece at Carrie Styles.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

Oh not Harry Styles. That's what I heard, no well. That's what I heard. Well, that's I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

I'm you know, I'm I'm I'm a white man about to enter my 30s, so I'm sure I'll be there soon. Well, you you you you got the little you know, the bang over the forehead thing going.

SPEAKER_03 12:46

You know, Mariah's storyline outside of like saying that she created the group is just walk around with Ada, gone on vacation with the family. We see a bit of Miss Lucy and Lake walking around to keeping her company because no one really wants to film with her.

SPEAKER_05 13:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

And then she asked her little businesses, Cinnamon Girl, which is like a cinnamon-driven like protein shakes and bars, which you know it's interesting. I would say the businesses on Married to Medicine this season, they're all unique. Like they're interesting things that I'm like some get more real than others. Cinnamon Girl definitely seems more of the like spun up for the show variety, but yeah. It was at least interesting enough I could see it, you know?

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Yeah. No, I got and yeah, and I I think we both um in particular really enjoy on these shows, seeing the businesses and seeing kind of like what these women, I guess kind of the ways they come up with to really like properly take advantage of the opportunity that they have and the platform they're on, um, to kind of generate like additional income and things like that. Because that's the thing, when you're doing like when you're doing reality TV like this, like really the the check you get from the show, I mean, it's probably nice, but it's really not where the money actually is. It's the opportunities that you get to make money because of the show outside of it.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

The the exposure, being on TV every week. It's powerful, it's powerful.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 14:05

And with Mariah, how did you feel when they excluded her from the couple's trip?

SPEAKER_00 14:09

You know, I wasn't surprised because, like I said, I feel like these girls, the moment they have an excuse to do so, they're gonna push this bitch out. Um and the thing is, I feel like they were really trying to send like a very clear message to her this season, both through their actions as well as just like what they had to say in their talking heads and what they had to say in their union. Like they were making it very clear to her, like, you don't run shit. Like, you know, like we we can't ice you out if we feel like it. Like it's it was giving that something because it's it was really like girl, like you don't have any like strong allies, like quad was really all you had, and you kind of fucked that up somehow. She got carry fired, she got carry fired. That thing, yeah. I that's like I I love how she's like I didn't, but I'll take credit for it. Um but um yeah, no, I just feel like I wasn't surprised, just especially because it like you mentioned earlier, like it felt like a repeat of last season where just like the fight last season happened, and you know, the same thing happened where Mariah was kind of excluded or pushed out a little bit. Um I think it was the same thing to sing. I think these women, they I think they probably they saw last season and like all of the Queen Bee shit that Mariah was saying and all the flexing and everything like that. And I think they were just fed up with her. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And I mean Mariah doesn't make it easy because I feel like Mariah is like she has a way, I think, of like, even when people are kind of trying to be on her side or defend her a little bit, like she has a way of kind of pushing people away and kind of just she does kind of being an asshole.

SPEAKER_03 15:43

There's kind of like no vulnerability, no like accountability, like no kind of like little bit of buy-in, which converts to Heavenly, who Heavenly talked crazier than Mariah, but Heavenly's gonna cackle, apologize when she's wrong, and like do her best to move on beyond it. You know, Mariah's gonna harp up over one remark you made out of the six remarks in the fight.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Yeah. Exactly. So that's the thing, is it's like a mixture of the cast, I think, intentionally kind of coming together to ice her out a little bit, combined with her just either she's like not recognizing that's what's going on and isn't acting accordingly, or she just doesn't give a shit. Like, I don't know which it is, to be honest. Maybe she thinks they won't fire her ass. Right. That's an and I think that's I mean, we see a lot in Housewives, we see a lot of women who on these shows who have this mentality that like they are the star, and it's like, well, I mean, honestly, if the whole damn cast refuses to film with you, they're probably gonna fire you and keep the rest of the life. Especially if the cast is as a whole is working, you know.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

Right? Well, she's still married to medicine. I mean, they tried this season. I swear most of her seeds were walking around with Ada and Laura. Yeah. And then showing up at parties late, making an entrance. I know. The princess party. She loves showing up. Knocking shit over. That was crazy. Showing up late. The white charlie, like, oh, you got you gotta wait. Yeah, and then boom, making an entrance and knocking over the baby picture. That's yeah, that was ridiculous. Like, it's just very disrespectful. I'm like, okay, girl. Showing up late with her entourage with Lake and his kids. Everyone's dressed up.

unknown 17:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

But I like the princess party.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

It was a cute, you know, all casting.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

It was.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

It was cute. That's the thing is I feel like the events on the show are like cute and fun. And um I feel like they have like they have a level of like kind of upscale fanciness for them, but they're not like too much, you know. Like they're not ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03 17:39

They're over the top. Well, Toya, the Toya's, was that this season or last season? Toya's second birthday party. Because that was over the top. But yeah, well, I guess. Toya's money management skills will continue to be.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

I'm sure we're talking we'll be talking about it in every season's a couple because you know, just the way Heavenly reacted to that damn wine diffuser. This is the crap you spend your money on.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

Heavenly loves talking about Toya's finances. The thing is, Eugene Love it. You know who he married. That's what Toya's saying at this point. I'm accepting it. He there's no way she wasn't like this on the first date. So right.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Yeah, no, Toya, Toya doesn't seem like the type of person that can really hide like who she is or hide her hand. Yeah. Like I feel like Toya just kind of is as she appears for the most part. So I'm sure that man knew exactly what he was getting into when he married her. Right?

SPEAKER_02 18:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

Anything else on Mariah before we get into Quad or her storylines, how she showed up this season?

SPEAKER_00 18:38

I think just for me, Mariah was clicking down this season for me. Like she was she already wasn't my favorite last season, but like this season, it just felt like more of the same. And I don't know. I know, I know she's still gonna be on the show for a while, I believe. I don't I don't know if she's still on the show to this day, but um Yeah, I think she's part of the core. Okay, let's see. So I mean, I'm hoping that maybe in like the next few seasons or something, like maybe she will open up a little bit more and give us a little bit more something. Because like I don't necessarily like have an interest in watching if this is just gonna repeat every season where it's just if it's just like a constant the group doesn't like Mariah, Mariah doesn't give a shit. Like, I don't really want to watch that season after season after season. It's gonna get boring eventually.

SPEAKER_03 19:26

I know. Eventually they need to deal with it, get rid of Mariah, like people work with her. Which Dr. Simone tried, but we'll get into the dynamics in a bit after we go through everyone, you know, touch on everyone's individual storylines. Yeah. So then we have Quad. The queen of a soliloquy.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

The queen of the gays. She keeps the gay around her, and I love it. Yeah, Quad?

SPEAKER_00 19:49

Quad is just I think I I liked her last season, and I think this season she was better because I feel like this season she kind of she I feel like she knew what worked for her last season and she honed it in a little bit better. Like last I felt like she was a little bit more all over the place and a little a little much at times, versus I feel like this season she pulled it back a little bit and kind of just gave us like straight up what we like about her and not so much what we don't.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

Exactly. And I think you know, she adjusted a little bit. She seems more comfortable in the group and in her relationships and how she kind of shows up.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

I feel like last season it was very much like she just did not give a shit about building these relationships and she didn't give a shit about pissing people off. And I feel like this season, like she was able to kind of be more peaceful overall with the group while still giving us entertainment value and everything like that. Um and I think she is like, she she's very like emotionally vulnerable, she's willing to share things, she is willing to be open and everything while also being like silly and fun and comic relief at times. So I don't know. I think she's a great example of like a sophomore season on a show like this. Ooh, I love that analysis.

SPEAKER_03 21:00

Yeah. But I agree, quad showed up great, and I think, you know, stepping into her own, I think she had the most captivating solo scenes of all of the cats. Because as I found her doggy fashion business, wanted to be the dog of the Louis Vuitton of dogs. It was interesting, but it was so quad. And it's like, as you think about it, it's like, you know, 24, maybe there's a market for this. Like rich people under dogs, like luxury is the price tag, is what will, you know, people are willing to pay. And you know, can you market up something good? Well, and if she dog she dresses off Carrie and Chloe like that.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

So yeah, and it's fit for her and how she shows up and what people know about her on TV.

SPEAKER_05 21:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

I feel like, especially nowadays, what we see, I I've realized over time that like rich people spend their extra money on anything. Um, so I'm kind of like, okay, that makes sense. And then also, like you said, it felt very quad, it felt very hard because I think if literally I saw anybody else like across Bravo with this same storyline, I'd be like, this is some fake ass like shit that they put on the TV. But with quad specifically, I'm like, you know what? I think like she's being seer.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Yes. Right. And then we kind of see her talking about the process, how she gets clothes for the dog, but it's things that you know she doesn't necessarily like are not her. She's like, I want more bedazzle, I want more sequins. So it's clear there's a kind of like a niche here, or there's like her needs aren't met. So she's gonna make it herself.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

So obviously I don't care about the business now, so assuming she didn't take over the dog fashion world, but it felt like a natural progression from season one where we saw her like doing this with her own dogs, but like it just felt natural because like in season one, it didn't feel like she was like, you know, setting up the land, like the the takeoff strip for this storyline. Like it didn't feel like that. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

So I didn't it didn't feel like GNA. It didn't feel like GNA. Right. Giselle who can't dress, talk about fashion, and who never worked out with the thing in her life. At least Ashley is wellness adjacent.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Right. Exactly, exactly. And it's just yeah, no, I I liked it. And I I kind of liked that it was like this ongoing thing throughout the season all the way to the finale. Um I was like, I was like, I don't know how y'all managed to like stretch this, like this dog fashion line storyline out the entire season without that. I feel like they did a good job at like weaving it throughout, where we got like bits and pieces of it. Um because I was like, y'all managed to stretch this out the whole season without it getting annoying or tired.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

No, it wasn't better quite well because we see her in the ideation phase. We see that first meeting with like the lawyer who sets her up with the investor, where Chloe and Carrie are turning up. They jump off the table, they pee. It's a mess. They ruined that guy's office. And then we see her talk to the investors again, which culminates in the final fashion show. So we see her growth. We see a lot of progression.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

I think it also helps that she had the more serious, like personal storyline about her and her husband and their like situation with like him wanting to have a child and her not being ready yet. And kind of like that. I'll say it.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

I'll say it. Dr. Greg is officially my least favorite husband on the show. Yeah. Cause how you go, first of all, I can't take him serious with that damn voice. Trying to be trying to make him like talk tell Quad takes shit serious and that people got shit to worry about, people going to work. First of all, Quad's at work right now. Two, this voice. Three, you want a baby with no money? Like she needs some income streams outside the show. Trying to set you up for a baby. Four shut up, Dr. Grant. That's all I gotta say.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Well, my thing is I feel like I've seen this story play out before with like um Mar like married these kind of like heteromarried couples where like the man's really pushing for the wife, like, let's have babies, let's have babies. I want you pregnant. Um and I feel like my thing is a lot of times there are discussions about kids before you get that far into the relationship. And I don't know. I feel like if I feel like if her husband was so serious about having kids, they would have had that discussion. And I mean, if they didn't, that's on him. And if they did, and if she said like, hey, I want to do that later, but now he's pushing her to do it sooner, I think that's wrong. And I feel like I think that thing though is I feel like a lot of times, especially is like people think this about women a lot, that like when they either say they don't want kids until later, or they say they don't want kids at all, people always have this mentality of like, oh, they're gonna change their mind. It's fine.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Yeah. So maybe that's what's going on, maybe that's what was really going on here. Was maybe she told him like beforehand, like, hey, I want to wait, and he's just like, Oh, she's gonna change her mind. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

Which I guess we'll find out more of. But also, I just see a lot of incompatibility with like how they show up in the world. That I'm just like, why are you even together? It's just giving quad wanted a nice house of big like toilet sexy locked up on the doctor, dude. So I think she was like, Okay, doctor, Greg was like, okay, cute wife, you know, and I think we're just like, all right.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Right. I think maybe they like, I think maybe they should have both had uh more thorough checklists for what they were looking for in a partner. Um but also like I mean I I was already suspicious of their relationship last season. Obviously, when we heard like the drama about their engagement being called off and how that all came to how kind of like their marriage came to happen in the first place, like from the beginning I wasn't sure about this marriage. And I that's the thing is I kind of I've looked at some stuff for Married Medic Married to Medicine, but also like I'm not very aware of where these ladies are today. So I'm like, well, I was like, let me not spoil this for myself. Like, let me be at least a little bit excited by what's gonna happen. So I don't know if they're still together. Like, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

Well, I know. I don't know if I'm gonna leave it to you or not, but it's definitely impacting my opinion. But Okay. Um I I'll I'll just say I'll just say Greg's second wife is a cat becomes a cast member on the show. But we will get we will get to that. Six, seven months, seven months, I don't know. But yeah, girl, so sweet tea. Sweet tea is something. Well, I remember during the sweet tea era, Mary to Madison was just coming on my timeline a lot.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

So Yeah, that's the thing, is I've seen like over the years, I've definitely even though I've even though this is like now that we're doing the series, this is my first time actually sitting down and watching the show, I've definitely seen clips and stuff over the years because it's I mean, it's a show that's been on for years, and it's also it's it's in the Bravo verse, and I've been watching other Bravo shows for as long as I have.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

So I don't know. There's definitely times where after Atlanta or Potomac, I just didn't change my TV and watch the random episode of Married to Medicine. So there's random pieces of lore that I have, but yeah, I do know that piece, which might be lingering in the back on me, but these people are just not compatible. But it was compelling to watch, to watch it unfold. It's like, yeah, oh, there's a divorce here. Which they're not the only one. I mean, a lot of these marriages seem on the rocks. I mean, I think Simone and is CISO her husband. The husband, like I know their faces, but I everyone's husband, like matching all the husband names is still hard for me. I think Simone's husband is CISO. Like I've seen like they're going through it, but they're honest about it, and I think they'll survive. Meanwhile, like Lisa and Darren, I don't think they'll survive, but they act like they're not going through. It's like y'all are lying ass house.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

They try to like, like when you're watching these shows and they try to play the perfect couple, it's like, ooh. Right. Even though you look like a cheetah with his light skinned, curly headed ass. I just feel like I feel like most like successful, secure, well-off couples probably wouldn't agree to go on a show like this in the first place. So I feel like going on reality TV is like already red flag number one. And then I think just in general, being on a show like this is probably just not good for your marriage anyway. Definitely not. Yeah, so if your marriage is already on shaky ground and not super stable or really like secure, like this seems like a good way to fuck it up.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Right? Which should be a test for Dr. Simone and her man's. But I don't know. I feel like they both communicate right about it. I don't know. I have faith in them. I do like them. Dr. Simone is one of my favorites. Yeah. But let's get into her, unless you have anything else on our lovely soliloquy queen, Quad Wet.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Just that I'm a quad stan. I am. Okay, quad stand. Last season made me a jack, a Dr. Jackie stan. This season made me a quad stan.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

I do appreciate Me some Quad. I think I'm still a stan of our Dr. Simone. Well, we know I love Meet some Dr. Heavenly. I think she's my new thing for it. Heavenly, yeah. I mean, that will be better. Um I feel like Dr. Simone is like the perfect ensemble cast mate. She's never gonna give you the most, but she's never gonna give you the least. Yeah, she can get like a good bridge like a Cynthia, but she can also go and like, you know, be the humor in the room. And this season we can see, we see her carrying a lot of arguments, cuz she was dragging toy up and down the season.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

It was, she was. I feel like she's kind of like, I mean, I'm not I'm not much of a sports person, but I know that sometimes like in sports that you kind of have like your star athletes where like they're the ones doing all the big flashy things. Then you have other like really solid team members of the team that are like doing a great job supporting and they're pulling their weight. And to me, that's a big part of what Dr. Simone is. I feel like she's not like necessarily the front and center star, but I also feel like she doesn't have a desire to be. Like she's not she's not a role player, is what they call it best. I feel like she's very much the opposite of a Mariah, where she like she doesn't care to be the star, but she's very happy to be there to kind of you know be a solid cast member and do her job.

SPEAKER_03 30:19

You know, I think Dr. Simone, she enjoys like cackling, living her life, and showing, you know, showing off her um practice, probably getting more eyes on it. She gets to be with her best friend, Dr. Jackie. So I'm sure there's a lot of positives to it for her, but no, for sure. Definitely a strong role player, not too much ego. And likes to keep things moving. The fact that because she was really the one volunteering to kind of bring Mariah back into the fold. Right. Obviously, I'm saying volunteering, but I do think a producer was like, okay, one of y'all bitches, Nita. Talk to Mariah. We can't keep doing this. Right. I think she was willing to try to play the peace, the peacemaker role and everything like that.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

She wanted to try. Dr. Jackie, it should be Dr. Jackie with her Cynthia ass, but she's probably like, I'm not doing that. Well, I think, yeah, Dr. Jackie is more of a like, if she feels inclined to do it, she will. But like, if a producer told her to do it, she'd be like, no. Yeah, no, she's not gonna. Like, I don't I don't think Dr. Jackie does doing what a producer tells her to do.

unknown 31:10

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

I guess let's give Simone some vodka and give it a shot. I don't know the you don't even need the prompt, Heavenly. She gonna she's gonna talk to come up to you. Like, well, I'm gonna ask Toya this today.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Right, I know. Heavenly. But um, yeah, like you mentioned with Simone, like kind of exploring some of her marital issues this season. Um, and kind of I I I I feel like if you have like Mariah and Quad, like the falling out, you see her and Jackie and their friendship remain strong and secure and everything. And I really like their dynamic, and I I hope that they don't fall out in the future, but you never know. Right. No, especially if she has a deep rooted friendship.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

Yeah. Or hopefully it's just something, you know, a few episodes and then they re reconcile it. Right. So, you know, they could promo it, but then you know, they're fine by the reunion. Right. You know, Dr. Simone's personal storyline didn't really change much from last season. She's still a workaholic, her kids are still dragging her from missing games. She's still still a little upset. And then the big thing is like the financial stress, which has come up with her practice. So pretty much she she tried to switch billing systems over, which led to like, I guess she couldn't send out the billing or receive it, so she hasn't been getting income from her practice. It's probably just like stuck in the bar, I'm assuming. So she's in a situation where she's dug into months of savings and is pretty much out of her security nest, which is stressful on a whole family. I'm sure she has a I'm sure that mortgage is expensive. Oh yeah. You know? Oh yeah. And then, you know, so all that they got kids, like, you know, it's a lot. They have a life to live, and her husband's being very, you know, honest and earnest about it. But yeah. You know, we see that challenge, and it's interesting because it's like, oh, that's not really what would come up. Although I feel like Doctor, when I learned that CISO does IT, her husband's an IT professional, and she did not get him to help at all. Right. I was like, Dr. Simone, I love you.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

Exactly. Like, when I feel like I don't know, because like just in my line of work being in banking and everything, like I don't directly deal with those things like payment processing, merchant services, and things like that. But like I know enough about it that I'm like, usually, because you know, I've I've seen business owners and stuff that are like switching over from, you know, one uh provider to another for their payment services. Um and I don't know, usually there's just like a plan in place to pr you know to secure a smooth transition um from one provider to another. So the fact that she's having all those problems, I'm like, did you just not have like a good plan in place? Like what were you doing? Were you doing in it?

SPEAKER_03 33:42

Probably not. I mean, I love Dr. Simone, but she seemed a little more loosey-oosey with her practice. Like I said, this thought would have happened at Dr.

SPEAKER_00 33:49

Jackie's practice, you know? Exactly. No, that's I mean, that's kind of part of the thing with them, is like they're like opposites, but friends and everything like that. Cause like Dr. Dr. Jackie's such a hard ass. Right. I mean, we make it work. We have some different working styles, but yeah, can you star. Can you imagine Dr. Jackie like managing a McDonald's? She'd have that place.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

She's like, fries are supposed to be dropped for three minutes. Yeah. You had those fries in there for four. And she'd be calling the customers fat too. Like, why are you even here?

SPEAKER_00 34:25

Somebody cussed her out over missing an apple pie. Well, you don't need it. You don't need that. Someone would order fries and she'd give them apple slices and be like, you don't need the fries. I don't think I don't think the regional manager's gonna deal with that. Yeah, I think I think I don't think I don't think Dr. Jackie was meant to to manage a fast food establishment, but she would be better at it. She would. Well, we can get over to Dr.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

Jackie because I feel like Dr. Simone's solo scenes, not the most interesting, but her role in the group this year, yeah, stronger. Because she her virtues Toya, kind of being the intermediary with Dr. Jackie and Heavenly and just being a bridge in the group. But solo scenes was like, okay. Yeah. You fucked up the transition with IT. We can talk about that for one season, but I better not hear about this shit next season. Right. She did eat Toya up uh backstage at the reunion. Which a dumb rackety ass. Which a broke rackety ass. Yep, she ate her up. Damn, the best line at the reunion was happening backstage between film and uh. That's it. Andy had to watch the footage later, he didn't even get to witness it. She ate Toya up twice because one of my favorite Simone lines was, you don't think, you don't think, you don't think, while circling Toya like a damn shark. Well, and it's it's true because Toya doesn't think. Yeah, and I've been in a lot of arguments with people where I'm gonna say, you're just a non-thinking dumbass bitch, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Right, right. Sometimes you're just sometimes like you're fighting with somebody and it's frustrating because it's like, we're only fighting right now because you are just not, you're not making a good choice here. You're not you're not thinking about what words you're using.

SPEAKER_03 35:57

But obviously, I uh it was so funny because they had that argument at Simone's house. Well, I guess Simone's on her lunch break. So Simone, after they argue, Simone's walking away, like, go home, Toya, go home to your house because she has to go back to the practice. So Toyota walk her ass up to the driveway. Let's start taking free throws.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

I just I can't imagine spa the thing is like for me, my lunch break like that time is precious to me. I can't imagine spending it fighting with somebody. I would definitely I would tell Bravo to kiss my ass. I'm not filming on my lunch break. Right. It's not like you gotta go to go back and probably deliver a damn baby.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

It's like it's not just any job. Right, right. It's like she said she's catching babies. But the audacity of Toya to go shoot that basketball is kind of why I appreciate her so much. Oh yeah, no. Toya is great for television. Um there's a thing of that. Okay, yes. Dr. Jackie, your former fave. Your former fave.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

Well, I and she still is a fave. I still stand Jackie, but I also I stand Jackie and Quad now. Um my thing with Jackie, it sor she would tell me Dr. Jackie. Dr. Jackie. Uh my thing with Dr. Jackie is well, eh, I don't like her husband. Um I thought Curtis barely on the show. But like, but like I don't know, like he's being weird. That's the way he's being about like the kid, like the child thing and everything. Like, it's just weird. It's giving it's giving like some kind of like weird back and forth little game or whatever. I don't know. Um, and he needs to stop playing with Jackie. Uh but so yeah, with Dr. Jackie, similar to Simone, I feel like there's not that big of a difference between her last season versus this season. Like, I feel like she played a similar similar role. She kind of gave a similar amount. Um, she's still fat, shaman. Um, yeah, that's that's a big thing in there. They're the episode. Yeah, her her her and heavenly fighting over and Miss Plus Georgia. She was in the middle of it, that poor girl. I know. And that's the thing, that's the thing. It's like I like Dr. Jackie, but some of those moments, like with her and everything, like I'm just I'm a little bit like a little bit. She's like healthy? Did you say healthy? Like she was waiting to drag that. Yeah, like there are some moments with Dr. Jackie where I'm just like, you're a little too mean um sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

And I see why one of Heavenly's I see why one of Heavenly's first confessionals is I think Dr. Jackie has a God complex. Which people say about doctors a lot.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

Yeah, well, and also that's coming from the from the lady named Heavenly, so you know that's a problem with if Heavenly saying you have a God complex. Um But um I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I feel like Dr. Jackie has some like insecurities that she is just projecting on people around her.

SPEAKER_03 38:45

Oh, for sure. Honestly, most of her solo scenes were kind of boring to me. I did find like the scene with her practice interesting where her assistant was getting on her ass, like, well, you need to do this, and you need to do this, and you need to do this. And she could be like, you know what? I need a minute. You're being rude, you're being insubordinate in the assistant was giving it back to her. Like, what? You hired me.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

You hired me. That's that it was it it was it was very much given um Sachin. You're gonna get in the studio, you're gonna make your music. And Dr. Jackie didn't do that.

SPEAKER_03 39:14

She got her car and drove home. She was like, I'm not doing that. And I was like, I didn't know doctors were allowed to just do that. If you own your own practice, I know that was a lot.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

I I I guess I guess you can just do whatever the fuck you want. Right. Tell that baby, tell that baby it's gonna be delivered tomorrow because that's that's the thing I that's the thing I do really like about the fact that we have a mixture of not just doctors wise but actual doctors, is that we do get to see them at work and kind of see them in their element and everything. I find it really interesting when we get to see those moments.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

I don't know they're always talking about what it's always talking about, charting. It's always charting with these hoes. Chart in this, chart them that. I'm like, what are these hoes charted? They bringing that home.

SPEAKER_00 39:49

Yeah, I will say though, sometimes I do feel like the dynamic between the doctors versus the doctor's wives is kind of like sometimes I feel that the doctors do very much see themselves as being like better than. Um and like, and I mean, even Dr. Jackie with like heavenly everything, where she's like, Well, you're a dentist, not a doctor. Right. It's like it's even like depending on what type of doctor you are, like they're gonna put they're gonna let they're gonna play this hierarchy.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

There's definitely some of that in here, and you know, intellect and who has it, who does it, and how they view each other. Although I think Dr. Jack, Dr. Jackie's definitely the biggest proponent of that. She's definitely the most pretentious. Like Dr. Simone, I feel like if you are Dr. Simone, oh girl, just call me Simone, you know? Right.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

Well, I feel like a lot of Dr. Jackie's stuff is the fact that she, I don't know exactly how old she is, but I know she's like older than the other women. So I feel like it's a generational thing. I feel like, I feel like especially for her, I mean, I mean, the the the weight stuff definitely is, because I'm just like, I'll take her, I mean, her mom was probably telling her like back in the day, like, put down the fork, fat ass. Like, it was probably some generational shit. But also, I think for Dr. Jackie, like being older, especially I think being an older black woman, it's probably more of a big deal of like, you know, I had to like overcome shit. I had to work hard to get this degree, to get this. Like, I want the respect. Start my practice, deliver every famous baby in Atlanta. Yeah. I think it's probably it's probably very much a thing of like, I want the damn respect.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

Right? I don't know. I see why people say Dr. Jackie just parades random celebrities around for a season as a storyline because not much going on there. So I guess I'm excited to go see Candy and some stir-ups or whatever in the future, because that's how Dr. Jackie's gonna be doing. I know.

SPEAKER_00 41:38

We we even had Dwight this season, not because of her, but we had Dwight. We did have Dwight. Cynthia made an appearance. Yeah. Um, yeah, I feel and I feel like for Dr. Jackie, that's just a case of like, she's like, she just doesn't have because sometimes on reality TV, when you're like a well put together, like stable individual, sometimes that limits your storyline potential. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

Because she's on a mess. Yeah, I guess all we have is the parenthood. Which we do get an interesting scene of her watching Simone's sons. Yeah. Which I which I was cackling at because they were like, we don't got no food in this house. Cause they were saying they were saying over at Jackie's. She was kind of just like, I have an apple. It's a little old. But would you like an apple? And then she fed those boys popcorn and pickles for dinner. I'm gonna cuss you out if you fed my babies popcorn and pickles.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Pickle juice is just so good. Alright. I'll make sure I serve you a pickleback shot at your baby shower. Okay, pickle shot.

SPEAKER_00 42:36

Well, enough on Dr.

SPEAKER_03 42:38

Jackie.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Should we get to our girl Toya? Yeah, let's talk about Toya. If if Dr. Jackie is like someone who's like just not enough of a mess for reality TV, Toya is someone who's just enough of a mess for reality TV.

SPEAKER_03 42:50

Um, Toya's gold. I'm sure you don't have to direct her too much. He just sits in the chair and starts talking.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

Right, right. And I feel like the thing with Toya is like she's gonna find conflict with somebody because she's just gonna she's gonna rub somebody the wrong way.

SPEAKER_03 43:03

Yeah.

unknown 43:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

Kind of see her Simone's feud kind of culminate. That's kind of her biggest feud this year, which is kind of like for Toya because she was bopping Mariah in the head for episode five last season. So she's a little bit more muted from the argument perspective. Obviously, her and Simone go back and forth, but it's just Toya being called dumb repeatedly, and Toya's kind of like looking around trying to ignore it.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Right. And kind of, you know, and heavenly being like, well, let's talk about her finances.

SPEAKER_03 43:30

And her extravagant birthday parties. Because one of her earlier episodes is this just over-the-top party for her two or three-year-old son, which is like, okay, they're not really gonna remember this. There's a lot going on here.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Right. Well, and that's it's Toya. Yeah, I mean, that's and I mean that's like a Bravo staple is like outrageous pot birthday parties for a toddler or ridiculously like high budget like events and stuff like that, where it's like, it's like you're spending your money this way, and then we find out you're having issues elsewhere with your finance. So it's like why yeah once again with a wine diffuser. This is the crap you're spending your money on.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

You know, Toya's whole thing is just like she wants a new house, she likes to keep up with the Joneses. We saw this last season. Yeah. And it just continues on so she has like this new house, they're in the process of buying. Yeah. To the point where she's already buying furniture for her new house. Yeah. Nothing's secured or signed, but she's she wants couches and decor and everything lined up already. Right. And then I don't understand this at all, but they had like signs, some kind of escrow thing. They had 30 days to finalize some things. But then they didn't approve I don't know if they didn't approve Eugene and his multiple sources of income and Toya's lack thereof outside of this shell. But something happened, and then the people won another 10,000 of them because the 30 days expired. And then they didn't want to do that. But they ended up renting a house for $12,000 a month, allegedly. Right. So there's a lot of doobia stuff in the air, but case in point, they lost $50,000 on a house they did not get. I proceeded to rent a $12,000 house.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

Right. Well, and just like that didn't make a lot of sense to me because I now by no means I'm not an expert because like I don't I don't work in the mortgage department. I don't do any of that. But I do working in banking, I do kind of direct people and guide them towards that. Um so and like so I'm a part of it to an extent. And from my understanding, because they're they're claiming the $50,000 they lost was because of that was like their down payment, or um, there's another term for it, but it's basically just like showing that you're serious.

SPEAKER_05 45:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:33

Um now for and so one of my things is like a 50,000 may seem like a lot for us, but for like the house that they were looking at, like the kind of houses they were looking at, like $50,000, I'm like, I feel like the down payment would have been more. Um but also in my experience, like when you put down a down payment or something like that, and if something falls through and you end up getting getting the house, like you get that back. So from like what I understand, the only way you don't get that back is if you have somehow breached like the contract or like you've done something that why didn't they breach it by not going over that 30 days?

SPEAKER_03 46:12

For but I don't know what that what they did in the 30 days.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

That doesn't sound right to me. And but yeah, and just the fact that like they would be so like, like, yeah, we lost 50,000. And like it's it's like in my mind, I'd be thinking about like, um, we're contacting the lawyer.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

Um well they did, they did, and that gym that West Indian lady told them they were shit out of luck.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

Right. It it wasn't adding up to me. And one thing that I found interesting is like I kind of looked up some stuff about this, and one thing is I saw that apparently like Toya is gonna be like moving to a new house like every season. So I guess that's a thing. Um that's what I've heard. That's yeah, that's what I was hearing. Apparently, people were like, So how many how many times has Toya moved on the channel? Um so apparently that's just a thing for her. She moves a lot.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

Um I knew that before we did our rewatch that Toya was known for kind of changing houses and keeping up with the Joneses. Yeah. I thought it was just like people being messy, but it it was an understatement.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

Yeah, it looks like it's it's for real. But I so when I was looking up stuff, I found like an interesting Reddit thread where this person kind of came up with their theory on what was going on here. So I just wanted to like kind of skim over it a little bit. So um in the Married to Medicine subreddit, this person's um handles Professional Car 2282. Um, Toya, Eugene, and the $50,000, breaking down my theory. I was re-watching season two, episode eight, and it clicked for me. Eugene mentions that he was trying to purchase the house under his medical concierge business. I imagine that he put that business under an LLC and writes himself off as someone independently contracted under his business. I have done research into the benefits of purchasing a house under an LLC, though the risk is just as high when considering interest rates and down payments. Personally, if you look at the house they put down money on, I couldn't imagine a bank approving them for a loan with only a $50,000 down payment, which was what I was thinking too. Um, it looked very expensive. And give Toya being a stay-at-home mom, not making much from the show at that time, establishing themselves as trusted lenders would be even more difficult. But if the $50,000 uh down payment isn't accepted by the seller, then how could they have lost the money? This is where my theory comes. This person thinks the $50,000 down payment was uh money from a separate loan and not from their own money. Um they said, I imagine that Eugene took $50,000 out in his name, which created pressure for him to be accepted for a mortgage loan. If approved, the mortgage loan could offset the down payment that likely came from the personal loan, or Eugene got a $50,000 loan as a business loan under his medical concierge LLC. But with it being newly established and not seeming as profitable, there could have been distrust from the bank and having it put under the LLC, since it could indicate Eugene individually not having the funds therefore there by not being a reliable lender. So the loss element is based on the fact that whether or not Eugene and Toya got that house, they would still be the response the ones responsible for the loan that got them enough money for the down payment. They probably were trying to kill two birds with one stone and getting that mortgage loan, but the unwise transition to renting that 10K a month house may have been their way to pay back the down payment loan without being tied down to HOA fees, property taxes, um, um, and et cetera. The lease to own line Toya use makes more sense since they could have been going for another loan before realizing their tax debt in season four. Sorry for the spoiler.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

Oh well, I don't think that's much of a surprise. I'm not shocked at the least.

unknown 49:40

Right.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

If you told me a cast member had tax issues, I'd be like, Toya or Samo?

unknown 49:44

Right.

SPEAKER_03 49:44

And what's Simone? I feel like Simone's the type that have tax issues because she didn't file something, because she was just like, oh. Right.

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Well, I I mean, honestly, this theory makes a lot of sense to me because just based on what we know about Toy and her husband and the weirdness of it, they kind of see, and like we know about her need to like, like you said, kind of keep up with the Joneses. Um, I feel like this is a type of situation where they'd be trying to like take loans out, move data around, things like that to kind of make things work or look a certain way.

SPEAKER_03 50:10

And I agree because Toya said something along the lines of like, oh, they're worried how this black man got all this money. So to me, I was always worried of like they think the medical concierge business didn't make enough. Because I'm sure his doctor income is consistent, stable, I'm sure it's like a W-2 situation. So I'm assuming they were using that concierge to kind of prove money, but they weren't, you know, maybe the cash trail didn't match up. So that was always in my head as a piece, but I was like, how can you take that? So the loan against it as a theory makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:39

Yeah. When the thing is when you're applying for a mortgage, but a loan of any kind, you know, there's like so many factors they can go off of and determining whether or not they're gonna approve you. I mean, they look at, um, you know, they look at your credit, they look at your debt-to-income ratio, they look at um like the length of income, they look at all of your the lengths of all your credit lines, they look at um, in some cases, they look at your relationship with the bank that you're trying to borrow from. If you have a relationship, like a pre-existing relationship with that institution. Um, and like, you know, I don't if they have um Toya and her husband both on there as applicants, you know, they're gonna look at those things for both of them. Um because like I've seen situations where um there's you know multiple applicants on an application and everything looks good except for maybe one applicant has really bad credit and that tanks the whole thing. So there's a lot of things that can go wrong.

SPEAKER_03 51:35

That makes sense. And I I don't know. I've never personally seen Toyo Bush Harris's credit, but if you told me she had bad credit, I wouldn't be like, oh my god, I'm a paul. Right.

SPEAKER_05 51:44

Like if you told me Jackie had bad credit, I'd be like, mm-hmm, no, really.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

Right. Well, depending on how the depending on how they list applicants and stuff, because like um typically for loan applications, you can only you can only list income from like a borrower. So depending on like if they're doing it under their personal names or has LLC like in what income they're trying to list, some income may be disqualified and things like that.

SPEAKER_03 52:11

Toya the one who needed to start a business of all these people, but needs to be hot slint. Right? You don't care. I found if Toya had a honestly, she might as well just waste the business and spend the 50k there because walking around a boutique doing nothing for a storyline. There you go. There you go. I can definitely see Toya walk around a boutique talking about these are my employees. Yeah, should we get to oh oh I was just saying I I would be I would be interested in watching that. Right? I'll I'll I would give it a glance as her storyline, not as a solo show.

SPEAKER_00 52:43

Not as a story.

SPEAKER_03 52:44

Honestly, Toya can, I don't know, Toya can maybe carry a solo show. Possibly. At least an episode of Trading Spaces gotten we we know she's moved enough times. Cool. Well, let's get to my personal favorite this season, newcomer Dr. Heavenly Kimes.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

Yeah, so Heavenly Um, you know, we we did spot her last season at the at the big party. Um but um she she becomes a cast member this season, and Heavenly out of everyone, she was the first married to like medicine cast member that I was aware of. Because like, I think I said this in our last episode, but like if I hear about someone with the name Dr. Heavenly, I'm gonna be I'm I'm gonna want to know about that. I'm gonna be like, who's Dr. Heavenly? And she says it too. Google me. Yeah, I'm like, Heavenly. Um, and yeah, no, definitely like when I when I talk about like I've seen clips from the show before, a lot of those clips have featured her. And I'm sure I was curious to see because I feel like this season she was relatively tame to the clips I've seen. So I guess she's gonna turn up a little bit more later on. Um because like going into this season, like I kind of expected her to be a little bit like wilder um based off what I have seen.

SPEAKER_03 53:55

No, she kept the cut as at the mouth. She definitely was feisty, but yeah. No, uh she dipped her toe in. She dipped her toe in. Yeah.

unknown 54:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

I never thought she would come in on a hundred. Well, I think, yeah. I mean, that's I think that's normal for a first season cast member. It's kind of like you're kind of like coming in, feeling out your spot in the group, feeling the dynamics, like, you know, you may not be super comfortable yet being on in front of the cameras and whatnot. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 54:17

Yeah, so we get a little bit of Dr. Heavenly, who was a dentist and her practiced, but a lot of her solo scenes are like mostly her at home, like with Damon or with Alora, who was a star and my favorite child on the show. Although a lot of the children are funny. One of Simone's sons, I don't know if it's Michael or Miles or if those even them boys' names, but the younger son is very funny too. But Alora is her, she is a mini version of her mom, and heavenly knows it just cackles along with her. Yeah. She asked Heavenly like, Do you just like talking about yourself sometimes? And she's just like, Well girl. And then after um Mariah just stormed in and knocked things over at the party, Alora gives her recap. Like, she did walk in breaking stuff like she owned it. It's not her party. She didn't have made an extra. Not like she owned it. And I'm like, this girl's an old soul.

SPEAKER_00 55:04

She she's on, she's up to something. Um no, I that that girl, that girl just set me in that's I mean, I she really is just her mother because like I feel like Heavenly's kind of an old soul too, because she kind of presents older than she is. Like she kind of gives like that older church lady vibe and everything, with kind of in the same way like Phaedra does, where it's like, oh Jesus, like yeah, no, that's I see that like the Phaedra's energy.

SPEAKER_03 55:27

Yeah. And her whole thing outside of just being chaotic was she was like, Oh, I'm submissive with my man, but yeah. I still don't know if it was a bit or not. If she just wanted to bother them ladies, or she's really submissive. I think it was.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

She might believe that she is, but I think she believes it. Um well the thing is though, is like, because you know, when when especially like when we're talking about like, I don't know, like those kind of like old-fashioned, like southern, submissive, like submissive wives, a lot of times those wives actually have a lot more power in in the household than you would think. Like, sure, there may be a lot of people. But he's getting he's getting manipulated in play.

SPEAKER_03 56:15

I think heavenly just means well, I cook for my man. We do see her make a little bit of bacon, even though Alora declared she was a vegetarian. Well, I think I went back and got a little peace.

SPEAKER_00 56:24

Yeah, I think she just appreciates some old-fashioned, you know, like gender roles in the marriage. I think she would just say it.

SPEAKER_03 56:32

And knock the demon ass is going. I don't think he's used to going along with Heavenly's bed, and he was just like, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Yeah. Well, I feel I feel like to me, the kind of the pushback she got for that seemed a little much to me. I was like, really? Like, I don't know. Cause like I feel like, I mean, if she wants to be a submissive wife or present herself as such, then who cares? Right?

SPEAKER_03 56:53

I think I would be annoyed by it if she was like a casty type, like casty from Euphoria. Oh, but Dr. Haven't is not. I was just like, I guess I don't even believe her. But like it's a bit. I'm like, is this girl serious? Like she kept on the in the first episode, I was like, oh, this is a bit. But she kept doubling down on it. So I was just like, is this not a bit?

SPEAKER_00 57:11

Well, I think I feel like to me, I would have found it like more annoying or whatever if because like there are some of those people that are like, um, oh, this is how I am my marriage, and this is how the rest of you should be in your marriages, too. Yeah. Like that would be annoying, I think. But she was more so like and she made sure to iterate at the reunion to kind of be like, in my opinion, that's how I married.

SPEAKER_03 57:32

That's true. Although she was kind of saying Simone and Jackie, like, oh, y'all don't cook for y'all mad. I guess, yeah, a little bit. And then Dr. She was talking about I cook for him every night. Dr. David looked like you lie, but I'm a Nado, because we all camera. But I don't know. He seemed like he loves it there. Heavenly talked about her personal situation, like being bigger and losing the way, and kind of like kind of like, you know, I don't know the word I'm looking for, but you know, it was a good background behind her feud with Simone and why she kind of spoke up for Miss Georgia Plus or whatever that lady's title was.

SPEAKER_05 58:05

Georgia's.

SPEAKER_03 58:05

So you know, we learned a little bit about Heavenly throughout the season, but not a lot of solo seasons. I think she shines in the group scenes too. So it makes sense. I mean, yeah, it's not like hers are uninteresting, but there's not really a lot of drama in her marriage, and she seems to definitely be more present. Not like accent, I don't know. But there seemed to be a point of contention with her kids of her missing things.

SPEAKER_00 58:26

Right. Heavenly very much felt like the type of cast member where it's like production's like, okay, we're we already we already have this established like group and dynamic. We're just gonna drop her into scenes and see what happens. See what she does.

SPEAKER_03 58:38

And it worked out great because she was a firecracker early on. I think she started off hot and kind of reeled it in as like the couple the whole cast situation maneuvered, but still gave her input. Yeah. So I think she did it quite well to show up as a firecracker, establish herself, but not be overbearing with it.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

Right. And then I feel like she did even if she reeled it in, like as the season progressed, or like at the reunion and stuff, she did like she still kind of like stood her ground and didn't really back down from anything she said or did um for the most part. So I feel like she had like a very, very, very like solid, good first season. No, she's smart, she navigated the situation very smartly, I think. Yeah, I feel like she she was able to kind of like have like moments or drama or conflict or whatever without necessarily being like Mariah and getting herself completely just isolated and excluded.

SPEAKER_02 59:25

Exactly. And now I want to No, for sure. I think it was an ideal debut.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

Yeah. And I can see I can see why this kind of like was the foundation for her becoming like a long-running cast.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

Oh, yeah, mainstay, definitely. I know. Lisa Nicole just gives a couple seasons. I think they definitely cast her to get the dare and fall out. And maybe add some professionalism to the show because I would say her events and conferences were some of the realist I've seen on these kind of shows. Right. Usually it just gives, you just gotta cater her and you want somebody to talk up there. But her hers seems like legitimate. Like, oh, you run galas, you do events, like that seemed real.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:02

When I I like that it kind of, because like this season, like we got rid of Carrie, we brought in her. Like, I feel like we're kind of getting like we're kind of like leaning more into like a bit of a better balance between the the doctors versus the doctor's wives. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:17

Oh, for sure. Because yeah, we we added one dentist, so you know, doctor in that realm. And then we added another doctor's wife. And they seem like they genuinely like kind of knew each other, well, were aware of everybody. So I don't think anybody just got dropped in randomly. Although I do think Lisa Nicole, well, heavenly was such a strong baby. It's like so in comparison, Lisa Nicole already looks muted. I do think, unfortunately, she's not very interesting as a person. I think her storylines, you know, the things she does are relatively interesting. I think, you know, Darren's definitely gonna be cheating again, and that's gonna give us some drama. But Lisa Nicole herself. Her and Mariah are definitely like the least compelling in the inner. I'm sure going through their interview tapes was like the least interesting, you know? Yeah. No, she put me to sleep a little bit this season. But I love seeing her run around at a conference. I'm like, this isn't the show for you, but I would watch you on like a professional bit show. Right. Which is kind of weird. Like, yeah. If this was like modern housewives, it would definitely be like heavenly bringing it up episode five at dinner. So dare be stepping out. Yeah. I think because it's like earlier in the show's history, we see it kind of unravel at the reunion a little bit, which we see Andy kind of put the girls on her. But before that, she's kind of just like, oh, I do businesses, my marriage. It's not like it's not giving, oh, my marriage is perfect, but it's definitely not giving he's cheated three times. Right. Yeah, well, for sure. Which I don't know. You I thought you could predict that by looking at that man, but I don't know, that maybe that's just me. Well, um anything about Lisa Nicole though, her storylines, any fun moments?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:03

She seems nice, but like I just found her just not very dynamic. And like, even at the reunion, I felt like the other women really like barely even noticed she was there most of the time.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:15

Well, unfortunately, this isn't her last season because I know that she throws a whole cup of water on Kwa. So what a you haven't seen that clip. She goes, What about your lesbian relationship, bitch? And then it is the most direct level, like, because she throws, you know how people throw a club and they kind of like go like diagonal. She grabs it and like throws like forward. So all the water gets onto Kwa. Like she gives she baptized Kwa. So we have that to look forward to. So I got it. I don't know if that happened this season or like next, but so at least it definitely comes back. So I guess she's not gonna be a snoozer the whole time. Okay. I mean, maybe that's her one at the moment, but I always thought she was only there for one season because I never really saw her in clips or gifts. Well, she kind of felt like a one-season wonder this season. Like, that's the vibe she's giving. Well, I thought so until the end, and I'm like, oh, they definitely want to see the Darren drama play out.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:05

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:06

Because there's no way they're setting all that up after reunion for them not to go ham on it next season. That's true. So maybe that was like their mom, like, okay, we'll give her another season. And then none of them all seem like cheaters. So, you know, it's like the season seem like he'll step out. Eugene clearly loves it there with Toyota. Damon loves it there. I don't think Greg loves it there, but who Greg pulling? Quad the bad at the chicken pull. So I mean, do you disagree? No, I agree. I agree. And and I don't, I feel like I I'd barely register Curtis on the screen to have an assessment, but right.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:41

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:42

No, I agree. So um did you did you miss Carrie? No. She showed up at a little bit. I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:50

Yeah. But I kind of, yeah, no, I didn't really miss her this season.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

Like she was I think, you know, uh as someone who was on the George Lopez cast might have said, I'm glad we finally have an all-person of color cast.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:03

Right. They kind of, because I think I said this in our last video where I feel like this was like still in the era of Bravo where they were like, oh, we need to have at least like one white bitch on here. Um it was kind and she and so she was kind of filling her Kim Zolsiak role. But they got rid of not know Kim Zolcia. Nothing. They got rid of her a lot faster than they got rid of Kim Zolcia.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:22

I mean, Carrie was definitely given the least. And her husband seemed to type to be like, my image, is that fighting?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

Yeah. Yeah, no. I felt like I mean Carrie like had her moments last season, but like that's the thing, is like really her absence was not felt this season. It there was no impact from her being here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:40

But I do think it was interesting as like we saw a different perspective of Carrie as one of the doctors' wives, because she was like, she handled the administration side of his business. So it was definitely like more of like a pairing, while like the rest of them kind of seemed like tangential, you know? Yeah. Which I wouldn't want Toya doing the administration of my own thing anyway. But I feel like Quad would do a good job. I agree, I agree. Like when she was like, Oh, I was the top salesperson from our region, I believed it. Seeing how she delivers a confessional soliloquy, can you imagine Quad in a sales meeting?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:09

Oh, yeah. Quad definitely has the personality for that. Quad could quad can sell, honey. She can sell.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:16

She would sell me one of them damn dog outfits. I don't got a dog, but I'm like, this is cute.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

This is cute as hell. I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:24

That put a yoke. But I think that to wrap it up, some of like the key group feuds, dynamics. Like, you know, obviously we have what highlighted the season was the downfall of Mariah and Quad, and that kind of permeated throughout the group, but no one was really team Mariah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:42

Right. So it made it it made it not as interesting, I think, because I feel like it was one of those things where in like theory it could have like divided the cast into like kind of taking sides and everything like that and kind of seeing how that plays out. That just didn't happen because it was pretty much everyone was. Everyone was either firmly on Quad's side or they were just like they didn't really give a shit. Like they were indifferent. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:06

Which is why like that kind of bubbles over by midseason. Obviously, they still hate each other and have a lot of contempt, but people can stop caring as much. And it's just Mariah being iced out and Simone trying to play the bridge, but you can tell Simone won't even care that much. Cause once you get some pushback, she's like, okay, so no Mariah, all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

Right, right. She's like, yeah, it's it's kind of like sh she was like in the indifferent category where she's like, I'm gonna try to be peacekeep peace peacekeeper, but I'm also not gonna get cussed out, like trying to, like, I'm not gonna push that hard. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:39

But it did lead to one of my favorite quotes of the season, which came from Mariah. When they tried to vote her out, she says, This isn't Florida. No, no, she said, This is Florida, and I'm George W. The votes don't damn count. I was just like, damn. Of all references to pull out. Right. But she was she was accurate. I mean the votes in Florida didn't count.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:59

She's George W. Okay. I I did well, I mean, I did I did love her quote. I will not come off my chariot to throw tomatoes with you.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:07

That was given qua, just the dramatics of it. It was like y'all are matching each other's energy right now. Not saying yeah, exactly. This is why y'all should be friends, but right? No, Mariah's good for a little one-liner, a little chariot moment. And she's clearly passed it down to her children because Lauren gagged up talking about mom, your life is like chess. And I was like, ooh.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:27

I will say though, I feel like Mariah, some of Mariah's lines, they feel very rehearsed to me. Oh, for sure. I'm like, you practice you you pulled a fader and practiced this in the mirror before you came to filming today.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:39

Yeah, no, because off of the air of it, I definitely think Heavenly and Simone are the more off the cuff ones. Yeah. Like broke raggedy ass and slipped off the tongue so quick. Right. No, she did not pre-plan that.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:49

She didn't she was thinking it, but she never thought it before, but then in that moment, she's like, Oh, you calling my mother and skill. In that moment, she felt it. Yeah. Um yeah, no, like like when Mariah, like, just like the way it's delivered feels like a rehearsal line, and then also like sometimes the way it's inserted, it feels like she was just waiting, like she knew what she wanted to say, and she was waiting for a moment where it would make sense to say it. Yeah, pretty much. But yeah, I think for me, like my shining stars this season were like Heavenly, Quad. Uh I would say Heavenly and Quad were kind of like my two shining stars this season. Um, I feel like Jackie and Simone provided great like, you know, kind of team support. Toya kind of was just Toya. Um I appreciate her for that. Um, and then Mariah was just on the outs, you know, try like it was kind of hard to watch.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:50

Sometimes I might damn think like Lisa throw her a bone or something. Uh they could have produced that better, but Mariah probably put herself in this corner. And we see her bullying the hell out of Lisa at the reunion. Yeah. I don't know why she zeroed it on her as a target, but right. Clearly they see Lisa to get jumped next. I don't know, but right. I could see that be Mariah's way back in the group for the thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:10

Because Andy asked Mariah at the reunion, like, do you like, do you see anyone in here that you would still consider like a friend that you there's a chance with? And she basically said all of them except for Lisa. So I think I think Mariah's maybe starting to see the writing on the wall, and maybe she's gonna like change her tune a little bit moving forward to try to get back in good with and like kind of repair some relationships. Because I mean that's well, that's the thing, is just knowing that she's gonna remain on the show, I feel like that's the only way I see it working. Um, is either she's gotta fix these relationships and dynamics and change her attitude, or they're gonna have to like bring on new cast members as allies for her. It's gonna have to be like one or the other. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:48

Is it that I was this week thinking, like, oh, she wants it to be an all-black show? But I do think Lisa Nicole might identify as black. I'm not quite sure. I looked it up and I did not get an answer. So I will DM her and find out, but I just Dr.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:01

Wendy told me I'm not qualified. Or Professor. I was gonna say you started talking as a uh Professor Wendy told me I'm not qualified for this conversation.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:09

Right. Well, you know what? I'm just gonna I'm just gonna consider her. Well, maybe Mariah just sees it easier to set up a jumping on Lisa next season and she can kind of bond with the girls that way. Yeah. But we'll see where that goes. I don't know. Maybe Mariah and Toya can be friends for once. Yeah, I mean I I feel like they get a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:30

I don't know why they don't. I wouldn't know why they don't, but I will say Toya, part of what changed my opinion of her this season a little bit was because now it's two seasons in a row that she's been involved in like well, she was involved in a physical altercation the first season, then she was involved in an almost physical altercation at the reunion the second season. And my thing with her is that like A, whether you want to admit it or not, because she wanted to claim she lunged at her a hug. It's like, no, you I don't think you were lunging at her to hug her in a break. Um but I just feel like the the thing with Toyota is after she like like she very clear was gonna try to swing on Simone. Yeah, and then like the moment it got broken up, she immediately started crying, just like she did when she fought with Mariah the previous season. Like immediately once the fight was over, she's in tears crying, playing victim. And that I don't really like that. And also the fact that it's like she's been the common denominator two seasons in a row makes me be like, okay, Toya. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:27

Okay, I will say I think they were the more like angry tears, frustration tears, and trying to be the victim. I do think her aunt was lying about it later, but I do think she's definitely like, I don't want to be a black woman fighting on TV. And she's like, God damn it, I did it again. So I think personally, I think the tears were that, especially if she like went up to the dressing room, was off to the side with like I don't know who it was. I think who was comforting her? Evanly. Somebody was comforting her. Yeah. But I don't know, yeah. I don't I don't think it was trying to be the victim. I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:55

I don't think Toya likes to play, but Toya Light starts it. She kind of knows it. I just think it's I just think it's like a Brandy Glanville or like a Porsche where it's like when when you're involved in like not one, but like multiple physical altercations or almost physical altercations, I start to be like, okay, there's a common denominator.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:13

No, for sure. Yeah. And I think the Simone and Toya feud was very interesting because they're both very like fun, jovial people who blended to the cast well. And just the nature of their disagreement was kind of stupid. It was like, yeah, oh, Simone was dancing on Eugene, gyrating on him, but like it was clearly not like sexual. There was no like you know, evil intent. And Toya knew that. I think Toya's whole thing was like, well, I told you once, you didn't fucking listen. And Simone probably was like, shut up, huh? Right. Which I I I see the miscommunication there. But it kind of got dragged out for me. It did not need to turn to this, which you know, and now they now they beefing for real because Simone done called her a broke raggedy ass hell.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:49

So yeah, and and and the and the words of Bucky from Flare of Love, I didn't think they were gonna get into it, but then they did. In between the reunions.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:58

I know backstage of reunion is wild to me. Yeah. But no, I think this, honestly, I'll say season one was definitely more exciting. Yeah. I do think the added episode ordered had them, they had to add in a lot more. Yeah. Which, you know, extending the show. It's a good sign for the show, but I do think, you know, season one was packing punches, back to back. Right. But season two definitely was more narratively driven. We learned a lot more about the women, their marriages, and the the relationships between them, which was strong. And I do think it set up some great foundation going forward. But I wouldn't be surprised if like they're married to Medicine Die Hard don't rate season two that high. Maybe they do.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:35

What I found interesting was that when I was like, when I was putting like into search engines and stuff or YouTube or whatever, when I was putting season two in, I really didn't get like people like don't really post a lot of like clips from season two. People don't really like have a lot of discussions about season two. Like from what I've seen, and I don't know if maybe if the show just caught on more over time, but from what I've seen, like when I try to look up content for Married to Medicine, I feel like around season four is when I start seeing more like clips being posted, discussions being had from like season four onwards.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:12

That's what I see. That makes sense. Probably like a slow build kind of vibe, and then the cast gets into their stride. Right. So maybe that's when Quad gets, you know, gets the baptism. But no, it makes sense. The only clip I really recognize that I've seen on socials from this season is Simone saying, You don't think and it was kind of it wasn't like a super viral clip, it was just something I saw was like, oh, this is funny as hell, because yeah I could see myself saying that. So it wasn't anything very big either. So and I've seen which broke Raggedy ass before too, which I don't know came from this early on. But yeah, aside from that, there's not many big moments. So I'm not surprised either.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:46

Right. And I think just like I think especially with season one, because like the Mariah and Toya like physical fight happens in like I think it was like episode four or whatever. It happens like really early on. I think you know, you didn't really necessarily have anything this season that like matched up to that level of just like craziness.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:02

Yeah, so it's more like subtle, but I do think it set the show up well. And the show's still trying to find its identity in like you know, the casting, the mix of like how much business, how much relationship, how much marriage stuff. And you have to keep in mind in 2014, like Atlanta was doing the same thing as well, still figuring itself out, even though that's when it like hit its virality.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:21

So when that's the thing is like this is a spin-off of Housewives, but it's also still like it's got its own identity. And I think that's I think that's part of it too. I think you kind of see here, like you see them testing things out where like obviously the show kind of has like the real housewives formula, but you see them branching out and editing things and trying things to see maybe like what fit like what are good ways to differentiate it from housewives and what are other things that it's like no, let's stick to that and not you know go like stray.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:49

I know, like we see them take a trip this year for the first time, which is a housewives staple, a little couples trip, our vacation moment. Which, you know, it's a little local, it's like a little cabin, not that far from them. But I do wonder if they'll get the international trip treatment going forward. Oh, I'm sure that would be interesting to see. You know, I would be very interested to see specifically with our doctors, so Jackie, Simone, and Heavenly, as they become more of reality stars, how does that impact their work? Are they getting, you know, hiring new doctors, NPs, or something to kind of, you know, work with them as they have more reality TV duties? Does it get more difficult? Like I'm curious if they explore, I mean, I'm sure they will, but to what extent they explore that side. Right. I know I've seen a lot of random like Atlanta celebrities or even Housewives of Atlanta beyond married to medicine with Jackie, so I'm sure it's still part of her storyline. But and I'm interested to see how it impacts like their practices and you know, how they identify as a doctor versus a reality star.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:42

Right. Well, and I feel like cause like on Housewives and stuff, you kind of see some of the cast members that are like working as professionals, whether it's like a doctor or an attorney or whatever. A lot of times you kind of do see them like after they've been on the show for a while, you kind of do see them to an extent kind of like drop that career. Um because I mean like I know like Emily on Orange County, she's like she's technically, I mean, she's an attorney, but she doesn't practice anymore and that she's like a full-time like reality TV star.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:13

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:14

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:15

That's a lot of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:17

Maybe phage or practices still, I don't know. But you know, I'm very interested to see where they go with that. But absolutely. I don't know. Being a whole doctor seems like, oh I'm not doing that anymore. That seems a little crazy. Right. Well, it just it seems like a lot to balance. It seems like a lot to balance.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:30

But maybe you can like go down to like part-time, oh, I only take one, I only do one birth a month, you know? Right. That's the thing is I feel like if it were if I guess if it were me in that situation where I was like an attorney or a doctor or like whatever, um, in one of these kind of career paths, I feel like I wouldn't necessarily completely stop, but I'd probably slow that down so that I'm not just like dying trying to do both abstract.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:52

It's like when bitches make their cameo price like $400, so they don't have to do a lot of them.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:57

Right, exactly. It's like I'm gonna still I'm gonna I'm not gonna do as many, but I'm still gonna make a little bit of money. Right. I'm gonna get to the bag.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:03

Right. But definitely the cast chemistry is locking in. Momentum is building. So if you're re-watching with us, you might agree season two is not the most exciting, but if you disagree, let us know your thoughts. But I am excited going into season three. I think there's good groundwork set. I don't think the cast needs any changes. Like I think they could run it back, maybe at a strong friend, but I want to see, like, I'm I think they've left off on a good place to continue with this core.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:28

Yeah, no, I I really hope we don't get any major shakeups for right now, because I do like kind of I kind of want to see this through and see uh in the words of Lisa Barlow, I want to go the distance with this. Um I really want to see how because like I feel like there's just so many different possibilities here and dynamics of this group. I really want to see how they play out if we just leave them alone and let them and let them do it. You know, a little production, but just let them live. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:53

Well, because I might have them in your toy go wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:55

Yeah, because I I hate sometimes when I'm watching these ensemble shows and I feel like they do a cash shakeup unnecessarily, and I'm just like, and there's just like things where I'm like, okay, well, there was like some really interesting, you know, ongoing storylines and dynamics and stuff that have now just been dropped because you fired her. Right. Or played her with some new bitch. Which thankfully I don't think Married to Medicine has that problem, but we shall see. Yeah, from what I've seen, it it seems like a lot, it seems like it's a little bit like Potomac, where a lot of the OGs kind of stay on for a long time. Yeah, and maybe they'll fight back and forth.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:27

Like I'm sure Heavenly and Toya will get into it, just knowing their personalities. Right. Even at the reunion a little bit, they were like, Heavenly's like, you said she's not the brightest in the group. And Devin's like, well, she's not. And everyone was cackling. Right? But you know, in Toya's defense, she's not, but it it's it's a smart group of women. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:45

Three doctors. I think it's kind of like be being being the least bright in this group doesn't necessarily mean you're dumb.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:54

Yeah, because uh in the basis of reality stars and brave lepretes, I uh there's definitely dumber than Toya. Oh yeah. She's not the smartest with her money, but like Toya's smart, she gets references, she's quick on her feet with like the comebacks, like I think no, she doesn't think as much as Simone. Simone may disagree, but you know, something's clicking up there. You know, in this cast, probably one of the smarter reality TV show casts on Bra. Absolutely. You know, you yeah, you're not the brightest in the group, Toya. And it's okay. But because like I mean, I don't know. Mariah seems with the type that she was in advanced classes just to say she was in advanced classes. Right. You know, even the non-doctors like Mariah, Lisa, Quad, like, they're just so eloquent. And then you just thought you see Toya, it's like okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:32

Well, I feel like at le at least for now, like at this at the stage of the show, I feel like there's there's a certain level of like requirements that you have to meet to be able to get on this show. You know, like it's like I feel like you kind of have to be a little bit more of like a higher class, like society type and everything like that, whether you are a doctor or you're married to one of these doctors or whatever, like to run these circles and everything. Like they're they're not, you know, they're not cast in broke bitches like Gina on Orange County.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:03

I mean, we'll see what happens with Toyota's fine answer that the show goes on. But you know, Lisa has a lot going on for herself with her businesses, and then you know, quad has a lot going on for herself. Quad's very fun. So I mean actually I don't know what quad.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:17

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:18

Maybe one day maybe one day they'll cast a veterinarian. I'd be here for that. Hope Dr. Jackie is not mean to that.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:25

Oh, she will be. She's gonna tell them they're not a real doctor. How about the dog doctor over there? I feel like she'd be shady and call them a dog groomer. But um, if y'all, if y'all want to drag us, just kidding, please don't be be nice. But we are we are across social media um at on a real note pod. You can find us on TikTok, you can find us on X, you can find us on Blue Sky, Instagram. Uh, you may be watching this on YouTube right now. Um, you know, follow us. Give us give us a thumbs up or uh five stars or you know, a like, whatever, depending on what platform you're on. Um and also give us your input. Let us know if you like these episodes, let us know if you want more of this type of content, um, or if you have other suggestions, you know, give them to us. We're always we're always down to read some DMs and see what people, what ideas people come up with.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:20

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:21

Uh y'all have a wonderful rest of your day, and you know, stay stay married to medicine.