Unhinged Greeks
Fun, chaotic, relatable...Unhinged Greeks is a podcast by two forty something year old best friends, Cass & Lina, who have absolutely no plan, just options. We yap about marriage, raising kids, ADHD, Perimenopause, and what ever else is currently sending us over the edge. It's unfiltered, very honest, sometimes unhinged and guaranteed to make you feel less alone (or at least laugh while spiralling).
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What happens when loud, chaotic, food-obsessed Greek culture collides with a calm white-boy upbringing? In this episode we talk about our family dynamics, cultural differences, and realise that maybe we aren't so different after all!
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Hi, Jimmy. Hello. Oh okay, how are you? Oh good cool. Guys, for those following along, this is our second attempt at doing this. The first one, this table went frut. And now our surroundings, um, before we even had a sip of wine, our surroundings smell like we're at a pub in Sydney at 2am, but we're not. We're not, we are not. We are in lovely Lena's lounge room. We're in my lounge room in Western Sydney on a Sunday afternoon. But yes, cheese.
SPEAKER_00I'm Cass.
SPEAKER_01I'm Lena. And you're on. I'm great. What's setting you over the edge this week? What uh my brain. Where did it go? Listen, I don't know if it's my brain. Well, what else can it be? I'm quite concerned for my lack of cognitive function. Cognitive. Cognitive. See? When I read something, so so many things have happened this past week, I'll read something, and the way I interpret it is not what's actually on there. So I've read a birthday invitation, and it was actually one of the bookends. Um, like daughters that when I messaged you to say, can I take your kids to a birthday party? Yes. And I thought it was on the first of the month. It's not? No. That was the RSVP response. Oh no, sorry, I yeah, sorry, the RSVP date. By the first of the month, but then I put the date in my phone as the third of that month, but it's her third birthday. I got the whole thing wrong. I read the birth date that she's turning as the RSVP date, and I basically would have turned up on the wrong day because I read it incorrectly. Microwave. Yeah, like but my honestly, I read it, and the way I read it and computed it were too very it's just not what was on the paper. I don't even know if it makes any sense. It kind of did it, but no. So your brain is set me. It was your lack of brain. There was an invitation and there were three numbers on it, and I said, Yeah, but you had so that part I get, but at the beginning, you kind of threw it. I was just trying to sort of explain it, but basically the date was wrong. Yeah, I couldn't have taken your kids to that party on that day anyway, because there is no party on that day, is the moral of the story. No one is going to a party on that day. School photos. So luckily for one of the school mums at soccer, she's like, Oh, yeah, school photos is full summer uniform. I said, No, it's not winter, always been winter. Why do your children have different uniforms?
SPEAKER_00Fuck, that's just summer and winter. Do yours not? I need to get the boys' pants, or Xander pants Phoenix, doesn't it? Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_01I was continue. So yeah, luckily she read it and I didn't because I didn't compute that at all. In all the words, I just didn't read, I would have sent them in the wrong uniform. I don't know, I'm just not coping. And I work in finance, like I'm gonna put the decimal point in the wrong place or the numbers the wrong way around, and we're gonna have some either very happy or unhappy customers. You know what?
SPEAKER_00I'll tell you a story about when I used to work in finance, and I was in my early 20s, so I literally had no excuses that I was probably extremely hungover or scattered from a weekend of parting, but I dealt with putting contracts together. So once they were finalized and approved from third-party brokers, I then had to put contracts together. I cost this company hundreds of thousands of dollars in lender's mortgage insurance because I issued contracts without lenders mortgage insurance. So customers were like borrowing at call at 95%, and there was no mortgage insurance. So of course they were signing and sending.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they were happy as. They were like, Yeah, that's what you gave me, and I I agreed to it.
SPEAKER_00Thanks, Cass. I was no longer working at said organization after that. Yeah, was that did they ask you to leave? Yeah, like I think I was I was a temp. I was a temp. Okay, right. So it was sort of in between, yeah. I don't know, with like we are talking, I would have maybe even been not even 20s. Yeah, I would have died. Yeah. I mean, but I didn't know what it was. Yeah, I was just following clearly, I wasn't following instructions very well.
SPEAKER_01I was or their instructions were not good. Maybe let's just go with that.
SPEAKER_00I mean, yeah, maybe. So I mean a decimal point. I've got you back, whatever. She did nothing wrong. Nothing ever. Anyway, so yeah, that was my little finance story when you said decimal points.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, yeah, well, that's nothing bad's gonna happen, but I'm telling you, it's I'm doing my best. I'm doing my absolute best. What's sending you over the edge?
SPEAKER_00Fucking school holidays, school holidays. I swear it actually feels like it's been 10 weeks. We're now on the tail end of the second week. I just they they just want constant stimulation. I'm working full time. I'm very lucky that whilst I'm working at home, and I'm pretty quiet at the moment, so it's not so bad where I can be like, come on, boys, let's go for a walk around the corner or let's go to the park for an hour, and it's fine, like nothing at work is going astray because I'm still getting my job done. But they just want constant what are we doing? What are we doing? So I send them to vacation care, but then that adds up a lot of money because you know we own money, so we get no benefit from the government. Another story. Yeah, but yeah, so vacation care has been far and few in between, and then it's like, okay, well, what else are we doing today? Are we doing this? I'm like, mate, when I was a kid, yeah, yeah. I used to lucky to be like, okay, it's the two-week holidays. You're gonna go to the movies once, and then we're gonna maybe see our family friends a couple of times, and we'll go to the park and get, you know, a rotisserie chip and some bread rolls, and that's how day I used to otherwise you just had to have your own fun.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I used to love just having my own time. Like my bedroom was my escape. Like I would rearrange my bedroom. I mean, the kids might be, no, Tommy rearranges his room, not the furniture, but like where stuff goes. Yeah, yeah. So, like I would rearrange my furniture, I would yeah, I don't know, read books, I would write, I would journal, I would like to. Record and make music.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, listen to the radio, and I mean, obviously, we're talking in the 90s, which is very different, and times were different then. I just feel like they're so spoiled, and I know that's our own fault, but also like where do you draw the line?
SPEAKER_01It's the instant gratification as well. I mean, everything's instantaneous for them. Whereas we had to literally physically rewind the cassette tape to hear it again.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. So it is a different time. Um, but yeah, it's I'm counting down. So they're back at school next week, and good riddance, mate. I'm not yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think they need it as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What are we here for today? So we are going to talk about what happens when a Greek girl, us, marries a white guy.
SPEAKER_00Yes, a white boy. This is something that some of our listeners actually wanted to hear about because they both know all that everyone knows that we're Greek and most people know we're white. So I think it's something that they wanted to find out and get a little bit of insiders on.
SPEAKER_01Interested in. So I guess yes, we're called the unhinged Greeks, but I think there's different levels of Greek, there's different levels of ethnic, and now we can say that, right? Yeah, yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_00So I'll just say there's different levels of wog. Yeah, yeah. You're being nice with the word ethnic. I am, but how Greek are we? I feel like I was a lot more Greek younger. I mean, I did Greek dancing for 20 years. Same. I taught Greek dancing. Same. I was really amongst the Greeks, like they were my people. I only dated Greek boys. See, I've always been anti, anti-Greek. Yeah, I well now that was I mean, after that last, I mean he's now gay. Yeah. That was a savior, but yeah, so I think I was a lot more Greek, a lot more, you know, I used to love the Greek clubs and stuff like that. Yeah, like your hands party was fun, though, going to the wizard. But then that's the thing, right? So I think, like, yes, whilst I was a lot more Greek, the culture is is within me, but I mean, I haven't listened to Greek music in a long time. I wouldn't know what's latest. I'll still sing something that's from like 20 years ago, like the actual bangers.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and all like the Euro Trash songs and everything from when we went overseas. Yes, yeah. Look, I'm similar, like it's it's in my heart, and I'm a very proud Greek, but I feel well, no, I'm not less Greek now than what I was, you know, 20 years ago, but it's not something I guess that we do day to day, but I've never been into the Greek guy. Scene, yeah, yeah. Or no, the Greek men, like it's just not been my thing. The old Christmas Bride and Lesans going the other. Like cruising in their collar. Yeah, I used to cross on that and you know, like, and that's great. Like, you do you, it's just not for me. You love that. Yeah, I loved it, but I also it's it is the I I do believe this, and I yes, it's controversial, but it's I do believe that Greek men have got that tradition instilled in them, and their expectations are that they want their women in the kitchen and the bedroom. 100%. And I'm sorry, my friend, but no, you're not going to get that. That's just not what I'm about. Correct. Yeah, no, I couldn't, I couldn't. And I think Paul, for me personally, and Carlos, I'll say on your behalf, they're they've embraced our culture wholeheartedly from day one. So, yeah, let's talk about that a little bit more.
SPEAKER_00I think if you think of the Greek culture, there are you know key pillars of that. You've got family, because the family's in each other's faces, regardless if you've got two or ten, you've got a really big family as well. I've got a very small family, family, food, yeah, I think, and that really, you know, is very similar to the Italian culture. And I love the Italian culture. So, food, hence what our white boys really have adapted to, but you know, like the whole party and the dancing and the atmosphere and the togetherness, and the I think, you know, birth of our weddings was one big party. It was, yeah, they were, they were fun, which is very different to I think the white boys.
SPEAKER_01Oh, what they're used to. Absolutely, absolutely. So, all right, well, let's like rewind a little bit. When did Carlos first meet your family? And what was his reaction?
SPEAKER_00So I was living in Melbourne, and Carl and I were doing long distance, and we obviously got together and we hooked up, and so how we maintained our long-distance relationship is he would either come down or I would come up, and every fortnight we would see each other, whatever that looked like. So then it was my niece's birthday, and I was up in Sydney, it was August. I think we'd only been together officially for a month, but you know, it felt like long as we were talking a lot longer. And he was taking me to the airport whilst I was at my niece's party. So he came to pick me up from her birthday party, and she was like her second party, and there was obviously my family, which, whilst we're small, they're they're they're allowed, they're a lot, yeah. So, you know, of course, we're talking about immediate families, and then you've got like the branch. And then plus, you know, ex my ex-sister-in-law now at the time, and obviously her family was there, and poor Carlos rocks up in his little like super room W impressor, I think it was. And my uncle just literally attacked him and annihilated him, going, What the fuck are you doing with her? You know, there's no returns, you're fucking crazy. You take her away from us. Uh Lucky Carl is, I mean, he can take the banter, but I think it was quite over confronting. Yes, I think is the better word to then it was that drive back to the airport.
SPEAKER_01It is confronting because what a lot of people don't realise is we are not yelling at each other, we're just talking. And so we're naturally loud, and then we need to be two octaves louder than our normal voice just to talk over each other and get a point across. Correct. Because there's usually five or six conversations all happening at the same time in a very small area, so it's normal to us, right?
SPEAKER_00The chaos is normal, but I don't think, like, you know, for a white boy to turn up to that, it's and this is like at a big property in like, you know, Austral or wherever it was, you know, southwest New South Wales, and there's just like all these Italians and Greeks and all of that just coming at him, and he's like, What the fuck is going on?
SPEAKER_01Because we've known each other for so long, we went to school together, we didn't date in high school, we're definitely not high school sweethearts. This is relative because it's got to do with being Greek, but he was like, Yeah, you were hot, but you had really hairy arms. Hai arms. Oh, stop. I know. Thank God for laser. So look, he's always, I think he was ethnic in a past life because his appreciation for food. Um, I mean, that man can cook, you know, a lamb roast now and you know, the lemon patates and everything amazing now, as can Carlos. Like they've just so you know, it's they've embraced he's embraced it all, and he's never had an issue with anything, I think. The only thing he's when because we dated for so long before we got married, the family were openly at him to when are you going to propose? When are you going to propose? And he, because there's so much, he goes, I would have done it well before I did if it wasn't for them. He said he was just like he wanted to prove a point. Yeah, he was like, just stop and get out of my face. Yeah, but no, he's been very good. And do you know what? You don't just marry me, he's married my entire family. Like he's married my mum, we're very close. And you know, my dad passed before I got married, and Paul's been there through the whole thing. So I think could I marry someone that never met my dad? I don't know. Like that was a it's a you know, was a very big deal for me, and I think it would it would be, but yeah, he pretty much now like mum's a package deal, so Helen just comes like along to everything and is included in everything, and he is so okay with that. Yeah, he just knows I've just married the whole family, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what do you say? So, whilst he's completely gravitated towards the Greek part of you and everything that comes with that, what do you think the hardest parts have been for him? For both of you, because obviously you've got two cultural differences like your family's loud, obnoxious in each other's face, in each other's lives. You've got the white side. I mean, they're equally loud and obnoxious.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's got a big army and he's got a very and he's got a very big family. So for us to have uh you know a little at-home get together, it's not it's 30 to 50 people, yeah, and all you've got to do is just invite one cousin on either side, and then like, oh then I've got to invite their sibling, and that there's your 50 people. So it's always an event. Everything is, yeah, it's always big, it's always an event. Whether we want it to be an event or not, it just turns into one. Oh, I think what the biggest I mean, he's just got that character where he takes it all on board.
SPEAKER_00I yeah, he can talk to anybody and make friends with anybody, regardless of their status. Like he just, yeah, we'll just talk underwater.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. No, he's he's been very good, very inclusive. Builds rapport, yeah, quite well. So I don't it hasn't been an issue for us. If anything, I was the one to clamp down on things that I didn't want. So we're creating our own new culture, right? Like our new, uh, you know, our it's a blended culture, Greek marrying into white. So what I didn't want was, even though I have faith, so I'm Greek Orthodox, I have a very strong faith. However, I don't practice and I just don't, I put my dug my heels in with I do not want to get married in a church. I did not know how that was gonna go down well with my like, I didn't know how it was gonna go down at all, actually, like with my family who are very conservative, very traditional, but they were fine with it. So um we got married in a park, we did the Stefana, which was just like a symbolic, you know, a symbolic gesture towards the, you know, I said my Greek heritage, I guess. But I really wanted to say vows, which is what you did as well. Like I really wanted to be able to look my husband in the eyes and tell him how I feel. Whereas in the Greek church, it's all in ancient Greek. I don't understand it. How do I expect him to understand it? To stand there for 45 minutes and listen to, you know, something that just doesn't add any value. I didn't want that. But yeah, so that was our wedding, and I know yours was the same, but our christenings as well. So I've buffed we've agreed to buff this here, so christen the children Greek Orthodox. Well, yeah, while you've done like half and half, one of each.
SPEAKER_00You've got a Greek and a white. Yeah, but he's asking a lot more about church and stuff as well. But I'm like, yeah, I just didn't send him to the channel. So that's the same thing. Send him to me. Like that's probably a thing that frustrates me about our culture and our religion and stuff like that. So for me to christen Xander, like the the the godparent has to be Greek Orthodox. There's no ifs, sands, or buts. They can't be Serb, they can't be Russian. I have to be Greek Orthodox to step foot in our church, which is ridiculous, right? Religion is religion, it's Christianity. I'm not really a religious person in the slightest. There's a lot of but you know, I guess it's just how I grew up. So for me, you know, Lena's my best friend, it was no ifs, hands, or buts for her to be the Luna of Xander. But then come Nixie. I had nobody that was Greek Orthodox that I'd wanted to baptize my son. So I was like, you know what, stuff it. At the end of the day, like, I'm gonna give you a naming day. I'm gonna give the honorary godparent to Rana and BT because they are my people. Of course, yeah. And she's gonna get a naming day. It was a beautiful ceremony. And when he's older, if he chooses to go down religion, he can choose whatever path that is, whether it's Hindu, Greek, fucking Buddhism. I don't know, whatever he can then choose to do. Stand in a little baby pool and get baptized in a Greek church. Yes or we're going to my nephew's christening next month, so he'll get to witness that. But I mean, he doesn't he also doesn't know what a church is. Like, yeah, you know, I threaten him churches with bad nuns. I'm like, you beat your shit.
SPEAKER_01Naughty boys home. The naughty boys home. Yes. I've unpacked that suitcase more than once to go to the naughty boys' home. Babe, the phone's ringing, it's the naughty boys home. And they've got a vacancy? Yeah, you're good. You're going.
SPEAKER_00Maybe the well Tom's christened, though. So I was gonna say maybe that's why he's he is who he is, because he's not christened. Oh, I feel like it is Christmas.
SPEAKER_01We're still very late though, because of COVID. And again, the poor thing, you just cried the whole time, was horrific.
SPEAKER_00But anyway, so yes, I guess that's just frustration for me from the cultural differences. But yeah, we did choose to get married in a park and do the ceremony and really just talk about us as opposed to do something in ancient Greek. Yes, correct.
SPEAKER_01That's like just to make there's a lot of things in I'm not gonna say Greek culture, that's stereotyping a little bit, but I guess in our families that we do just because we've always done so there's traditions, and we've definitely broken the cycle. And I remember dad, when he was alive, always used to say, you know, why are you dating white boys? Why are you dating, you know, Piosinetulus omalakas? Like, you know, rah-rahra, he's not one of us. AI is not gonna get that script. I can barely understand, you know, he's like, and I was like, Dad, you moved to Australia for a better life, but we're surrounded by Aussies. What did you think was gonna happen?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but they're so cool because they're so cool, come and collected, and they've grounded us. That's one of the best things about Carl and his family, they stick in their corner, I don't even see them. I mean, there's probably parts to that why I don't see them, but even when they were in our lives, they just stuck to their own business. Whereas the Greeks, they fucking want to know everything, and it's frustrating. And I love that they just stick to their guns, and if they don't like you, or you know, they you're not invited to your wedding, and yeah, it's not an issue, it's not an issue, whereas if something happens with the Greeks, you have to invite the person.
SPEAKER_01What do you mean? You you're not willing to invite invitations. What do you mean you're not gonna invite them? What do you mean?
SPEAKER_00Just because he fixed my car 30 years ago, Cass, you've got to invite me. No, I don't. He did me a favor back then.
SPEAKER_01We've got to return the favour. No, different views on parenting. Have you found that you and Carlos have got different cultural views on parenting or raising kids?
SPEAKER_00No, I think we're pretty much on the same page. Yeah, I don't think, yeah, there's Carl has been hands-on and been amazing. Yeah, I think the key difference that Carl sees between me, I think, is I need my family there, I have to have my family. There's like, why? He's like, What do you have what do you have to invite them for? What do they what do you have to invite Joe Vlogs for?
SPEAKER_01See, and I'm like, well, it's just the way we are. That if we do not invite the entire family to a dinner on a Wednesday night, that you know, like or if we don't cook a feast for 20 people even if there's only five of us coming. Yeah, it's it's that, you know, and it's just in our DNA, we cannot help it. Like it's it's built in. Does a food ever go away? You know, do I ignore that guilt sometimes? Yes. But I think as you know, like my family is also embracing that guilt as well. Like we're very much now, instead of, you know, like you know, yeah, yeah, it's getting older, my mum's getting older. You know, oh, why are we gonna kill ourselves to host at home for everyone? Let's just go out, let's just go to the pub, let's go to the club, yeah, eat there, and they're fine with it. Whereas back in the day was never a thing. Oh, 100%.
SPEAKER_00I remember James's christening. Oh, was it was it at a mocha that you had his first birthday and your mum was like, What are you gonna feed our guests? Chicken nuggets and pizzas. And I said yes. Yeah, and she was like, You can't do that. I remember that was such a big thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was she's like, What do you mean, just pizzas? I'm like, Yeah, just pizzas, and no one starved, and it was fine. Yeah, um, I'm all about the low maintenance for me as a host. I'm not very good at it. So unless you're prepared to do it for me, then you know what? I've just got to do it. But you're beautiful and you love it. Like it is, you love it.
SPEAKER_00It's stressful, but it's yeah, it's something that I love feeding people, and it's I will cook for 20 people, even though there's only five kinds.
SPEAKER_01So it's like I will cook, but then get distracted talking to you because I'll be like, tell me more. I like, and then all of a sudden, like my meat is burning, and like everything's I'm just I can't, I'm off a mess. I can't you do it well. You do it well. Thanks, Kums. Have you ever had an instance where you felt uncomfortable being Greek in Carlos's white family, or ever or misunderstood, or anything just made you feel a little bit off?
SPEAKER_00No, no, not for being Greek. I think for just for probably being who I am as a person or an individual, but definitely not for being Greek. I've never felt judged. Yeah, okay. Have you?
SPEAKER_01No, I think I'm the same. I've always not always, but initially I was worried that I was a lot or too much for them. Because it's not just me, it's like the entire Greek family that comes along with me. But they they've embraced it, and honestly, like we recently had Greek Easter and James's birthday and Tom's name day all together at my place, and I got text messages from both sides of the family, the Greek and the white, the next day, and they're like, Lena, we love that. Yeah, we love your family, we haven't seen them in a while. It was really nice to catch up, but it was just nice, casual, and you know what? That just made me happy. I'm like done. Okay, so have we learnt anything?
SPEAKER_00So if anyone is contemplating dating or marrying into a Greek family, but do you think in today's world though, potentially it's it's gonna happen so much more? Like now, our boys are half cast. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01So I think there'll be a lot of interrelation by biracial. Can we say are we biracial? We are biracial, are we? Yes, why? Because it's two races, both we are not. What do you mean? Yes, we are. We're just Greek. I'm first generation Greek. What do you mean, just Greek? We invented the bloody alphabet. What do we know? What do you mean we're biracial? Two races. Oh, like the family unit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think it meant like we as an individuals. No, like our marriages, we're biracial. Yeah, okay, then yeah, it's like our families, yeah. What have we learnt? I don't know. I just I don't know. I love that Carlos is so chilled. Yeah. And he's like, no, you don't have to invite everybody. Like, not everybody has to be under this roof on this day because you're their blood or whatever, you know, it's we're just fucking having a lunch. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, okay, you know what, you're right. So I think I've taken that part, but he's always been my person to group to put me down to earth.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, I think there's a lot of I guess. In summary, there are a lot of good that you can take from both sides, the Greek and the white, and just whatever you don't want, just put it back, yeah, and mash it up to I think the food is the best part that Carl loves.
SPEAKER_00Like I remember in our honeymoon, we got to in Greece, and he's like, Where's the Kraus? Just give me the Kraus. Like he just wanted the meat. Yeah. In the Kraus. He actually got up and he did Zimbekica. Did he get it? He said to him, yeah, yeah. There was like a little live band at the caravanna that we're at, and he's there, just gets up by himself and starts too.
SPEAKER_01So cute. It is. It's really nice that they've embraced it, and it's nice that yeah, they just go with the flow. Yeah, go with the flow because that's what we are about. Do you get worried that if we don't teach our children Greek, then the culture's gonna die with each generation?
SPEAKER_00Aha thousand percent.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay. Yeah, a thousand percent. I mean, they're not, it's funny though, they're not interested like in learning. So we we stuffed up because when James was born, Paul's rule was one parent speaks English and one parent speaks Greek. And it we we that's we did it. We did it, and my mum would only speak Greek to James, and then Thomas came along, and I would just in survival mode, and I'm like, oh, I just need to speak whatever language comes out of my mouth and just have my brain. And I mean, I went to Greek school, right? I did it on purpose to put my like get my HSC mark up, but I went to Greek school, I can read, I can write, is it amazing? No, like I still don't know where to put the donals like the accent all the time, but I can read, write, speak, understand. My brother cannot, and he has zero interest in it, zero, and it's actually happening in with my kids. So James, zero interest, does not want to, does not identify. He's actually said to me, I don't identify as a Greek person. I'm like, what do you mean? And he's like, Yeah, no, I just see it's like I'm Australian, I don't. Whereas Thomas, he wants to learn every language under the sun, yeah, yeah, yeah. And his accent is so good. Like he's like, Yes, he's pronounced, yes, very good, and he looks so white. So I'm interested to see where this is gonna go with those with the boys.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't know. I feel like Xander's I don't know. I've tried to teach them just the language, basics and stuff, but yeah, it's also hard.
SPEAKER_01And you do you do lose it.
SPEAKER_00I mean survival mode as it is. Apparently, I went to school not knowing how to speak English. Same. I did not know a word of English going to school because I was always with your young papo. Yeah, so and that just like Where's my brother and sister? I mean, my brother, very, very little. My sister, not a word. She does not understand any word of Greek. She doesn't? Not a word. No, Tom will know more than her. Wow. Yeah, interesting. Okay. She wants to learn and she's like annoyed at my parents that they didn't teach her. We all went to Greek school when we got married. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01He went Sydney Uni. I don't know if they still do it because this was like 10 years ago, but once a week he used to go and he used to have his little books and he used to he learnt Greek. Um, and he used to get the Greek newspaper and he used to try and read and try and follow along on the news. And I'm like, don't even try and listen to that news because it's way too fast for I think even a native Greek to understand.
SPEAKER_00I just had a thought, you know, the movie My Big Fat Greek Wedding. It is not like that. That is completely dramatized, but then there are certain parts where there are, like I think, you know, the Easter celebration where you know he rocks up and gets introduced to the cousins and they want to cook him. I don't think it's very dramatized. I actually related to most of that movie, like it was recatable, but it was very, you know, the whole Windex bullshit thing and like the changing the word to a Greek word. But yeah, there are certainly when Ian meets the family, there are certain parts, but it is quite dramatized. Oh no, because I'm like, so Mr.
SPEAKER_01Porto Carlis was very much like my dad was very much like him. And I remember in primary school, he would go, Why are you speaking to that person? And my school is full of Turkish people, right? Full of Turks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got a history lesson from my father on like the Turkish and why I shouldn't speak to them and all this stuff. Like, very, very, you know, patriotic for the Greeks. And I'm like, bro, we're probably dark because there were like, you know, there were relations that you know dark, but it's true.
SPEAKER_00Because we should be blonde-haired, blue-eyed traditionally.
SPEAKER_01I was just like, what do you mean? You put me in this school, and now you don't want to talk to anyone. I need to be friends. So no, no, no. I related to that movie a lot. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_00I think Carl thought it he did, but I was like, no, my family's not that I mean they're dramatic, but yeah, not that big. There's a lot. Well, that ties the end of that now. Let's finish off with my favorite segment. I love this, but unhinged question time. If you had to start a cult, what would it be about?
SPEAKER_01Probably perimenopause. I fucking love that subject. Or I don't love it. Like, I just feel like it's my life, like it just cross-references to everything. It would be about the cult wouldn't be about this is what the cult would be. The cult would be a commune of women. So we're all going to live together, together but separately. There's nothing sexual unless you want it to be, right? It depends on the time of the year. Exactly right. The time, yeah, correct. So we can just raise our children by ourselves, and the only we don't need we don't need any men. We just yeah, they can just come visit if they want, like we're in jail, but a voluntary jail. So would they come for what's the sexual conjugate conjugal visits? I sound like such a man hater, but I'm not. I do, don't I? No, I don't hate men, and I don't hate my husband. I'm just fucking over it.
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