4/11/26 Multiverse Minute NEWS OF THE WEEK

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SPEAKER_03 0:04

All right, welcome to our multiverse minute, even if it's 45 minutes, news section of the week. Oh, yeah. All right. So let's let's dive right in there, guys. This is just our weekly news section that we're just gonna break down anything that's come out. We'll touch upon there's a little bit of rumors here or there, but the main thing is the news and what is actually happening at the moment. And so um I'm gonna start off with the first one, and then maybe my brother and I will just go back and forth on each one and uh sure go from there. So coming up, filming or not filming right now, some people are filming it. The Cinemacon 2026 is happening at this very moment that we are filming our episode. So what are we expecting from this?

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Well, uh from my uh perspective of the Cinemacon, or from what I understand of it, is this is the studio is kind of appealing to the movie theaters themselves. Um, so this is where you get a lot of real good, juicy stuff because they're really trying to get the movie theaters to invest in the movie and in their promotion and all sorts of stuff. So this is where they're not afraid to show a lot of what they got going on or what's coming up. I think some of the better, juicier things we get are at Cinemacon rather than a Comic Con because the Comic Con caters to the idea of teasing. Your Comic-Con stuff, they want you to be excited and they're gonna give you just enough. When at Cinemacon, it's like they're kind of proving that they have enough. I think we're gonna get I think they're gonna get a full Avengers trailer in Cinemacon. Um, I don't think we're gonna get a full Avengers trailer for a while still, which I think we're still gonna get a main teaser trailer, but I think they get a full Avengers trailer as Cinemacon. Or maybe a full teaser. But I think it'll be fun to break that down when they start talking about that, which we will. We're gonna stay away from any kind of leaked footage because unless it's an official thing, we don't want to show anything that's not true, you know. But we'll definitely break down anything that comes out of that when it comes down to describing it because we're gonna be interested too. Um, I I'll tell you, I wouldn't be surprised if they show Spider-Man to these people. They've been known to show whole movies. So hey, look what we got. If not the whole movie, the first 30 minutes or so, for sure. You hear that a lot, you know. I think they're gonna get like the I think they're gonna they're either gonna show Spider-Man, um, they might show He-Man, because that's a big one that's coming out, you know. Anything big coming out, I bet you Mortal Kombat shows. Because that's already been that's already been changed, like release dates because of their confidence in it. So they might show that movie too, just to say, hey, look, this is why this is so good, you know. And with where you have fingers across, it is because I'm hoping it is. I think that's what's gonna happen with CinemaCon. It's usually how it goes. It's not really for us kind of people or the the movie news people, but they still let those kind of guys in because you know, the more you talk about something, the more free press it is, right? Um yeah, but yeah, because this is more for the movie studios, so yeah, I think we're gonna get some juicy things for sure.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

I think what I like about Cinemacon is you might hear some people online saying that cinemas are dying in the industry type thing because everything's going to streaming and there's different ways of studios now being able to connect with their audience. And I I understand that the industry itself is evolving, but what I like about Cinemacon is it's really showing that there is a movie theater going experience that we experience more growing up, and even now that they still want to keep fresh and alive. And so that's what this whole thing is about, is that the studios are coming together and they, as the studios, are presenting to these movie theater heads and to those AMCs and Regals and Cinemarts and Tinteltown, all this stuff about what they're doing. And then that's usually when either deals get made or the hype gets real and they know what movie they think is gonna be the hot one because they put on a good show. So, of course, and Disney in in particular has been known to put on a good show for um for these movie studios or sorry for these um these cinema studios and things like that. That's right. So um I think that we're definitely gonna we're gonna get a lot from James Gunn, I'm sure, regarding the future of DC. Yeah, I forgot DC probably front and center too. They might even show Supergirl. They might show Supergirl, they might show segments of it. I mean, they've they've been known in the past to last year bring Spider-Man out on the Sony panel. That's when they first announced that um Brave New World, I believe, was was coming and they brought him out and all this all this stuff happening. I won't be surprised of how much they're doing of Doomsday and what they already have, that they have something big planned. Oh, yeah. It's like an industry known, I wouldn't say secret, but it's talk within the industry that we've heard already from all these um cinemas that Doomsday is gonna be their biggest movie of the year. Oh and it I tell you, Disney, Marvel, Kevin Feige, they're not gonna underperform when it comes to pitching their movies to the um to the cinemas. They're gonna put on the show. I this is this might be a bold take and it might not ever happen, but my prediction will be they're gonna show a trailer to Doomsday and they're gonna have new cast announcements. And some of them may even walk on stage. You think they'll do cast announcements at CinemaCon? I think to bring up the hype, especially if there's a specific actor that's probably already there for another studio or another movie that's there, it's easy for them, like a Tom Holland, to walk out on the stage and say, guess what? Spider-Man's also gonna be in Doomsday. I will not be surprised if they do something like that because I think as much as some people, some people enjoyed the chair watch of 2025, I don't think that they would go and do that again, although it would definitely get us talking again. So that maybe their what they want to do was very successful. But I think their marketing strategy is gonna be changing here and there just to keep up with some some new flavor of something, you know, um, to show us. And I won't be surprised if they announce someone maybe we didn't even think about is going to be in this movie, even though it's one or two characters, just something new. Maybe we might even see Chris Evans walk out on stage, just making his first grand appearance besides that teaser we saw in December. Yeah, I think that's very plausible.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

I think anything could happen when it comes down to how they want to present Doomsday, right? I think it's more likely now that they would, whether between now or San Diego, I figure now would be the best time. But it is more likely that they do more cast announcements if there is more. Um, I mean, obviously there's more than what was on Chairwatch, or we wouldn't have Captain America because they left him completely out and here he is still in the movie. So obviously they had ideas of hiding things from us anyways from the start, um, which they do all the time, which is fine. Uh and and also with reshoots, maybe at the time Cherwatch happened, these people weren't part of this movie yet, and now they are. So if I were that, I might have the entire old cast of X-Men come out and present Doomsday and have nobody from the Avengers just have the entire old school X-Men guys, all of them come out and be like, by the way, we're all in this, and check out the Dune Teaser trailer. Let it be an X-Men heavy one. Because that if you want people to go see this movie, that's who's gonna go watch this movie. Yeah. Yeah. Then then the next trailer would be an Avengers heavy trailer. You know, and then no more trailers. Like just give us the movie. Yeah. I kind of like this, I don't want to know what's going on, you know. And I actually kind of want them to save as much of Doom as possible. I said Doom, and I apologize. I want them to save as much as Doom as possible. In fact, if we don't hear him talk or speak or barely see him between now and the movie opens, I think I'd be okay with that. I'd like more surprises out of that than because if we get too much of him, I'm gonna be like, ugh, we're gonna pick it apart too much, and it's already the idea of him being Tony Starred, maybe not, maybe his Robert Harry Jr., blah, blah, blah. We've even gonna see his face. I think that there's a lot of questions there. Just let us experience that as it rolls out in the film. Yeah. You know, because there's a I I think that there's a lot of possibility that we do get more case, so I think you're right on that.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Yeah, I definitely think that whether it is here at Cinemacon or it's at San Diego, Marvel does put on a good show when they do San Diego. Now, from my understanding, I don't think they did San Diego last year. There was one of these years recently that they skipped it. And or it was very minimal, right? Yeah, it it didn't have, but when they put on a show at San Diego, I tell you, that is it is like we as Marvel geeks are like chomping at the bits on looking up the news reels as it's happening in real time. Oh, they announced this, and every movie, usually the cast comes out, the cast comes out. So I know that that's one of the dreams for me, is maybe next year. That's what I'm predicting is next year they're gonna start rolling out what their phase seven and onwards gonna be, because all we have is Secret Wars next year, and they are already, by the end of this year, rumor has it, they are starting to film one of the new movies for phase seven, probably X-Men, which is the hot take right now, the most likely one. I'm thinking but I will not be surprised if I don't think this year, because of the hype they're trying to make for Doomsday, they're gonna do something like that because they don't want to overshadow Robert Dyer Jr. coming back as Dr. Doom type thing. But um, I do think next year at San Diego, that's my prediction, they're gonna do, we're gonna feast on Marvel.

SPEAKER_02 9:44

Yeah, I'm I agree with Sam. I think our I've always wanted to go to one of them. We've kind of had a taste of Comic-Con going to one in Rhode Island that we really like. Shout out to Rhode Island Comic-Con. You guys do a great job. And we we like it a lot. We're probably actually we're thinking about going this year to that again. Um I'm thinking very seriously about it. So and uh it it just costs a lot of money, folks, so sometimes it's hard to do. But I think we can make this one work this year. And when it comes down to San Diego, I'm gonna hold my decision on whether I want to go to that until I see how good Doomsday is. If Doomsday just rocks it and kills it, then sign me up. Let's go, let's get our tickets way ahead of time. If it doesn't, then man, I'm just gonna wait it out with everybody else. You know, because like I just want to be ready, you know. It's because it's not like we're gonna be able to afford to really meet a lot of these people. Yeah, that's all that's the thing. Yeah, but it would be nice to be there and experience it like they do, like the fans really do and how much they like it. Yeah. Then I can wear my fat thor costume again. So I have an awesome fat Thor. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:49

So yeah, that you you were you were pretty hot in that fat thing. I couldn't believe how many pictures people want with you, aren't they? People were like, oh, we need pictures right now. Yeah. And he looks just so perfect for it. Anyways, so yeah, that's what we're um that was our two cents on CinemaCon 2026. It's happening right now. And by the way, with that mentioned, if something like a doomsday trailer does get does come out within this next upcoming week, we are doing a quick, hey, this just came out. We're getting together right now and doing a quick video for you guys so you get to see our reaction to it and our two cents to it. So something that if something that big happens, we will do an extra video.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Oh, yeah. And so keep your eyes open this week, particularly for any kind of uh if it's nothing that's really light shattery, we'll save it for next week's you know, multi version.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Yeah, if if they show a trailer to the audience but it's not it's on it's not released to the public, you know, on their official platforms or anything, we're not gonna show leaked footage, but we are gonna talk about it because at that point they've made it as news. Yeah, it's just not video news. You know, I mean it'll be a big feature next week.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Yeah, and I don't know, maybe if the leak leaked footage they discuss is real big, maybe we will do a video on it. So let's just see what we get first and go from there. Yeah. All right, so take it away with the next thing on our news. All right, so our next news thing is something to do with Chris Evans, go figure. Chris Evans indicates that he is in the next one, quote unquote, and will be shooting very soon, quote unquote.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

What does this mean, Sam? Oh, I I mean, of course, the internet went a buzz when this happened. I remember watching the video of this. I don't know if this is who he was talking to or this is just some lady reacting to. If there is this woman that uh you hear Chris Evans actually say these things. So, and I don't think it's an AI-generated thing. I think he actually is just saying, hey, I'm filming stuff. Uh if you want to be a skeptic about it, you could say, Oh, these are just reshoots of Doomsday. That's what he's meaning. He's in the next one, meaning he's in the next shoots or whatever. I think this is Secret Wars, and everyone else seems to think he is confirming he's gonna be in Secret Wars too. And I well, we've always speculated Secret Wars is gonna have everybody. So most likely. I I would not be surprised if what he's filming, yeah. I'm sure he's filming Doomsday Reshoots, but I think he's also filming some Secret Wars too, and he just let the cat out of the bag, but being very vague about it. That's my two cents.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Yeah, these kind of news things I I'm real careful with because it's he could be talking about anything. It might not even be him, you know. From what I understand, this is a recording of him saying this to someone who's not even a news outlet. So it's kind of like I don't know, what's it mean he's in the next one? It could be the next Harry Potter. I have no idea. You know, uh I obviously he's probably talking about Captain America, he's probably talking about his stuff. I think it's kind of a no-brainer, though, that he's in the next one. I mean, if you're gonna bring Captain America back to fix your mistakes, because we know that's why you did it, Marvel. I'm just very cynical about it. I I personally would not have ever brought him back, but I see why you are. And I'm not saying it still can't be amazing. It can't be amazing. It's just we just gotta just be careful with what he did before, because what he did before was Chef's kiss. You know, so don't ruin this. You know what I mean? Like if you're gonna do something with it, let's do something real good. Because that's just that ending of him dancing with Peggy, and it just goes, I'm like, oh man, I almost wanted the universe right there to just end. No more to stop. You know what I mean? Yeah, we like bold decisions, so we don't like stupid decisions. So but I understand why he's back. I think it will make for a fun story. I think he's awesome. I mean, he is Steve Rogers. I'd like him to come back and just take the shield away from what's his face. Uh and then we'll we'll just leave that until we get to that movie. But yeah, uh, I think he's no-brainer. If he's gonna come back, I mean, why not bring him back for both these two that are so close together? I mean, if if you're talking he's back for the next Avengers movies, but he's got to wait six or seven more movies, then that could be a that's probably not what he's talking about. But you're talking these two movies are so close together that I bet there's characters that we have in this one that they've even filmed some of their stuff for the next movie for timing-wise. Excuse me, for timing-wise, because it's gonna be hard to get done later for the next movie. You know, I mean they do this stuff all the time when it comes down to franchise kind of things. Um, I think we're gonna get Robert Downney Jr. back as Iron Man in Secret Wars, to be honest with you. I don't think he's gonna go further than that. I think it's gonna be some sort of time-complacement, blah, blah, blah, whatever they're gonna use to make this movie awesome is what they're gonna do, you know. And if they're smart, they can do that, you know. Uh just give us a good ending to cap. If he ends, if he doesn't end and he stays in, that's even cooler. I hope Chris Evans does it till he's 90. Why not? You know, it's like we're gonna have you jack until he's 90. Don't think we won't, because I feel like there's so many things we can do with that. He could even if he just shows up here and there or something else, or however, he's gonna do these for a long time. You know, and so yeah, I I don't want to read too much into it though, because we don't know what this really means. We really don't know.

SPEAKER_03 15:56

Yeah, no, we don't, but they don't it it circled around and something something came out of it. So uh we had to bring it up for our part of our news segment here.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Because it's probably it probably is. That's really what it comes down to. But you know, his character is still alive in the Knives Out series and Netflix, and they just uh had a successful third one of that, and they're already talking about filming a fourth one of that. Maybe that's what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

So it could it could have been a whole different movie, folks. Speaking of characters still alive, we haven't heard that Steve Rogers, the MCU Steve Rogers that we know that we saw at the end of Endgame, old man Steve. We don't know if he is actually deceased or not. Yeah, we don't for I mean that super soldier serum is supposed to help you from aging so much, too. That's why he looks the way he doesn't he's just shown his age from that. And that's another reason why I'm a little worried about how they're doing this with bringing him back type thing, because you kind of Rooster Brothers already kind of insinuated he went back and had the life that he always wanted to have. And so I don't want to mess that up. But they've got time traveled now, so there's a lot of McGuffins that we gotta get through. And they have variants. We don't even know if this is the Steve Rogers from Earth 616. That'd be their biggest mistake, though.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

It you know, thing though they'll do a variant seat. I'll tell you, I'll tell you that'd be the worst thing to do. Yep. All right, well, I mean does that set well with you? No, you get into the movie and it's hey, by the way, we're not touching that seat, we're just gonna pull Steve out of a different place. I don't know. This variant thing works well with some, but not with others. When it's that iconic with that character, it's uh, I don't know. I don't know. If you're gonna bring him back, bring him back. I don't know. That's why I had I struggle with this multiverse thing. Because sometimes it makes me it makes the stuff they've done feel not as important. And when you start doing that, you start losing me as a viewer. Or at least someone not as passionate. Like I'll probably watch these until they really go off the rails. They really gotta go bad. But passion-wise and loving them wise, yeah. No, I don't want a variant Steve Rogers. If we're gonna get a variant Steve Rogers, there's mostly a different actor, different thing. I'd rather they add than than him. Yeah, yeah. Well, maybe that's how I feel about it. I mean, I mean that's it's their thing, they can do what they want, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:18

I just I am if it comes to that where he's a variant of Steve Rogers in this movie. I I don't know honestly how I feel about it for that for that purpose, because I I feel like I can I can separate the Steve that I know from the Steve they want to tell. I feel like I I knew that from Wanda, from Doctor Strange, the multiverse of madness, that they were able to do a variant of Wanda, and I was able to know, okay, I love Wanda, but I know this isn't the same Wanda here, things like that, you know. So I don't know. It's definitely a possibility, but I don't know what they're gonna do.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

I think my issue with it more is just they can't be exactly the same. So if we're gonna have that Captain America Steve Rogers that we know, we need the one that we know. If you just bring in a new guy and we just say, okay, he's just a variant played by the same actor and stuff, and he's exactly like the old Steve Rogers, then you want to just have the old Steve Rogers back, you know? But I can see that they're all a little different, even though they're the same underneath, and they have like even in Loki when you watch that, they're all tad different about who they are and what they're doing and where they're from or what they think. And maybe we'll get a whole different version of Steve Rod. Maybe that is the big swing they'll make, and that might be some time in for it.

SPEAKER_03 19:33

But I just really it could be something as simple in in the in the movie, and again, we don't know what the movie script is. No clue, guys. We know some people online that say they've read the script. Cool, good for you. So we're just speculating. Um, and you could probably tell us if we're right or wrong, or I'm sure you won't even want to touch that with a 10-foot pole to keep your keep your people and you know best part is is just him saying these couple quotes that might mean nothing, got all this talk out of it.

SPEAKER_02 20:01

So if it is anything, fantastic. If not, then man, we just talked a lot about and just talk about nothing.

SPEAKER_03 20:06

So who knows what it is. I think that's a good way to segue then into just our next our next topic. Yeah, go for it. Yeah, because we'll stay on that all day. Yeah. Oh yeah. No, and this this next one we'll probably would stay on all day too. So we're gonna have to we're gonna have to um control ourselves here. Yeah. But uh the MCU's X-Men films, um, the X-Men film has confirmed its writers, at least these writers in particular. According to director Jake Schreyer, beef creator Lee Songjin, and the bear writer Joanna Carl Kahlo. Carlo Kahlo? I'm sorry if I mispronounced your name, um, are currently rewriting the script. Schreier wants, quote, ideology and soap opera drama to take center stage in this script, in the film. So what are you as m X-Men fan, probably more than MCU fan, what is your two cents about this?

SPEAKER_02 20:58

So and adding any kind of talent to something is good. And it's uh have you watched Beef or The Bear? Either one of those?

SPEAKER_03 21:09

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Beef the Netflix show of Allie Wong? Yeah, yes. I have watched Beef. Okay, and but you ever watched The Bear? No. Okay. But I heard about The Bear, isn't that something about Kitchen? Yep, yep. Yep. Okay I've seen both these shows and The Bear is one of my favorites. And the thing isn't the bear. Evan Evan. Evan Foster. Yeah. The thing.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

You're in a pencrown. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We'll get your name correct. Yeah. Um, yeah, I've watched both these, and I'll tell you, they are excellent shows. I thought beef was great. It was straight, weird, out of nowhere. I I like that person style writing because there I feel like there's uh there's a lot of spontaneous stuff going on, which makes it neat because that I feel like that person will take swings. Yeah. And put out maybe too many, and then someone could say, eh, uh, let's bring it back a little bit. Little bit. What I love about the writer of the bear being involved in this is when if you watch The Bear, what a character-driven show. There is a show is great, it has that dramatic soap opera feeling, but new age, so it's not like your daytime soap opera feeling. Okay. It's like what you want to see. It's very realistic life, kind of what these people are going through. And that person writes those characters so well in The Bear. Probably top three best TV episodes I've ever seen in my life comes out of that show.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

That's big praise for especially for in connection to something we're deeply passionate.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

And I've seen a lot of things, guys. And The Bear has a show, uh, an episode in season two called The Seven Fishes. And it is one of the best TV episodes of a show I've ever seen in my life. It's so good. It's laugh, cry, laugh, cry. I mean, and John Berenthal is in it. There's got a quite a cast in that role. And John Barenthal plays a great role in The Bear. But my point being is uh back to the news story itself, is yeah, this is great because these writers are fantastic. And what makes me excited about that is that's the kind of touch we need for the X-Men. We need those nuances that the person from The Bear that will bring about these characters because we don't want I don't want my cyclops to be one-sided anymore. You know, these got I'm not saying Marsden did a bad job. I think he was the closest to doing the best, to be honest. Um, obviously he's probably the best cyclops we've ever had, and hopefully, you know, we're gonna see more and be even better. Uh, but yeah, to be able to have that nuance in there, especially when it comes down to him and Gene's relationship. I think that the bear writer is perfect for that. It's perfect for the the bear rider is perfect for the inner dynamics of a family that's going through something really hard that has inner turmoil, but still finds a way to bind itself together because that's what the bear is about. And that's the X-Men folks. So let's get that. Let's I like to see that inner turmoil between each other where there's you know, there there might be some struggles on how they work together, what they decide to do, but ultimately they're a family that work together for a bigger purpose. And in the and in the bear, it's like those epic moments where they come together and it all works. You want to stand up and collab for them because you're like, yes, good for you. And that's how we want to feel when it comes down to an X-Men. We want to be cheering at the end of the movie, like, yes, you're the X-Men. You know what I mean? Like we want that, and and makes all their little inner moments inside makes those bigger moments even better because they'll feed into each other. Yeah, and beef will bring that writer will bring the spontaneity of something new, bigger swings, something crazy that makes you oh, I can't believe that just happened. And then they'll be able to bring it in with the other. I think it's a great choice. You know, it's I mean, it's either a great choice or this will be their first mistake because from what I consider what these two people have been involved with, it's been fantastic television. So I can only imagine it's gonna be a fantastic movie in that sense. It gives me a little bit of light because I dread this X-Men movie probably more than anybody else. Um, I know Sam's close by, but I really dread it. He's seen it in my eyes when we talk X-Men. I almost don't want it to happen. The light is going, it's dimming. But this gives me okay, hey, look, if you put the right people behind it, you are gonna get a good movie at the very least. And this shows me that they are, at the very least, taking it very seriously because these are very serious writers with two very seriously epic good shows for sure. I highly suggest seeing if you watch The Bear. I really do. You yeah, you'd like it a lot.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

I will. I I I am curious. I was curious about it for a while, but now that I know that these are going to be some of the same creative minds behind writing the X-Men, which is like so near and dear to my heart, um, that I definitely want to see what what their style is like.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

You will be excited, I promise, because you'll be like, those are the depths I want them to go in with X-Men. Yeah, you'll see what they're doing.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

So the thing that struck me about this news, uh, because uh I'm glad that my brother broke down these two people and what they're they're credited for with Beef and the Bear and things like that. Um, because I didn't know anything about them to that regard. But when Jake Schreier says that he wants ideology and soap opera drama to take center stage, two things come out at me about that. Uh, soap opera, I'll touch upon as the first thing. X-Men, anyone who reads X-Men comics, it is nothing but a soap opera. And some people, that's that's cool, that's good, and it works great for the comics themselves. I mean, how many times in the comics has Gene Grey died and come back to life? How many times now in the movies has Xavier died and come back to life? So, like, I mean, soap opera stuff is kind of baked inside X-Men. It's just finding a way to make that appealing to your broader audience. And I think that if these um writers are any indication of what you just said, they'll know how to take the best elements of that and put it into a worthy script for the X-Men. That's what my hope is, and that's what I'm I'm looking forward to in that regard. The ideology part is the only part I would say that concerns me a little bit, only because in this hyper-politicized world that we live in now, and X-Men definitely touched their whole core was on civil rights and touching upon the times of things and why they're using mutants as an example, a fictional example of the differences between us as regular humans and how we could coexist or not coexist. That's the only part that I am just worried about because we get enough of politics in our daily life that when I go to watch an X-Men film, yes, touch upon it because that's gonna be what it's supposed to be about. But m my worry is they decide to weaponize that into an agenda for us to shove down our throats for the two and a half hours we're watching this movie. So what I will say to um to kind of combat that a little bit is I love what Fox did with the X-Men in that regard. They made it where it was mutants versus humans, and some of those social political struggles, they were there, they were front and center, but they didn't alienate anyone, watch them. It didn't matter what side of the political spectrum you are or the social spectrum you are, you could watch those films and you don't feel like you're being attacked on either side. And I think if they take that same approach and blueprint that they had in the Fox X-Men, because let's face it, Fox is actually a great example when it comes to oh, did these work? Did they not work? Um, did the X-Men work? Did the Fantastic Four work? That's a great example because Fantastic Four did not work. And you see how many times they tried to reboot it to make it work, and they just couldn't do that formula the way the Marvel so far has been able to do. But X-Men did work. The creative team behind that with Brian Singer, sometimes Simon Kimberg. I have to say sometimes. I'm sorry, dude, but you do have some bad taste in my mouth still, and Lana Donna Schumer, and some of these other people that were the creative geniuses behind the X-Men films. It worked. Matthew Vaughn comes in mind. I think it's Matthew Vaughn, who's a director of First Class.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

Yeah, yeah, Matthew Vaughn.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

Yeah. And don't forget Fungy, which is from the beginning. He was, yes. Yeah, he was a producer on them too. So, like they had some blueprint that actually gained the fan following, such as my brother and I, where we're so passionate about them, and we actually liked some of the creative things that he did with them. We want to see some things change a little bit and maybe expand upon. Cyclops is a good example, you know, give Storm a little bit more of a front type thing. But like, other than that, um, you have to be able to blend that that connected with everybody in with whatever this quote unquote ideology is that you're gonna be doing. So that's my only worry going into this is are they able to do as successful in that front that Fox was able to do? Because regardless if you liked the Fox X-Men or not, some you loved, some you hated, they were pretty consistent on that part, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

So that other than that, though, everything else so far, it sounds really cool. And um, Jake Schreier showed he was a great director, and I think to a degree a writer on the Thunderbolts, maybe now a writer, but I'm not sure. He was definitely great at that film. And I see why it highlighted from Marvel, oh, we can use you for a bigger team than Thunderbolts type thing. And so I I'm excited to see what that's gonna be like, and I'm excited to see these things. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:54

Yeah, I I'm hoping look, excuse me, like with you, I'm hoping I that when they talk about the ideal, ideological stuff in that, I'm hoping they're still just referencing on the how they work on their personal dynamics with it being mixed in. Um yeah, I I think that we're gonna be very uh surprised to see what they do. Hopefully they keep us in interested. You know, there's the characters of Magneto and Xavier are the two that hinge the most on how you feel about them, about ideals of where it comes from. And if we if that's not believable or felt like it's earned, then that's where the X-Men will fail. The rest just fall into place because they follow those two. But if we don't believe either those two in what they're talking about or feel like it's an earned situation or an earned topic, then that's where it's gonna fail the most.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

And I'm telling you, Fox and Brian Singer got that right. No, so it was uh like the chef's kiss you talked about earlier. That for that was a chef's kiss for them in particular.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

Just just Patrick Stewart saying something wholesome as as Professor Xavier makes me tear out.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

It's amazing. And what gave me so much. What gave me hope in that is when Professor Um Patrick Stewart as Xavier in Dr. Strange Multiverse of Madness said the same line that is echoed throughout all uh all of Xavier's sentiments in the Fox films. That gave me hope that at least Marvel recognizes, Marvel Studios recognizes there is something about those Fox movies that we want definitely to ingrain in our version of them. It's just how they're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 32:29

I have no doubt they know why we love them and they know what worked. Yeah. I think their problem is how do they mix it in with what they've started in the MCU now? Yeah. I think that's what their their biggest hurdle is. Now, how do we get them in this in this universe that makes sense? And then it's easy to go with, you know.

SPEAKER_03 32:47

So we'll see how it goes. All right. Well, uh, moving on from that, why don't you take it away? These are now, these are some of our honorable mentions. We have uh three of them to discuss with you, so why don't you start off with the first one? So Marvel Animation reveals a promo poster of X-Men 97, season two. All right. So um, from my understanding of this, and I don't know, have you watched the first season of 97? I actually have, yeah. What are your thoughts on that? I like it.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

I think it's good. I think it's uh I struggle with cartoons these days. It reminds me so much of the old one, clearly, because that's what they're trying to do. That it was a good thing to put on in the background and enjoy and watch. And it just makes me want that cyclops so much more. The cyclops is so awesome. That's amazing. He's so good. And it's and I think, and because they're doing it with that, I know they know that's how you're supposed to do Cyclops. So, folks, we're gonna get some great James Marson Cyclops stuff coming, I promise. I think I I really am convinced that that's gonna be awesome. So, yeah, I'm excited for it. Like I said, it's not top-tier excitement for me because cartoons and I have a weird relationship. Um, but it's X-Men. So, um, you know, I like the nostalgia feeling of it. I enjoy it a lot. I think it's a lot of fun. I think they're gonna bring some new characters that are like new characters of now and put them in like an old style feeling, which I think will be really cool.

SPEAKER_03 34:07

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I liked the reboot of 97. I will imagine I will not imagine. I already saw it. It was good. So uh I did like it. I liked that um what they did with it. There is I had a couple critiques about it myself personally, but that was that's not anything that made take took away from my whole experience of watching it, because some of those episodes, like um, spoiler alert, Gambit's death, oh my gosh, that was just what a good episode. Emma Frost finally getting her second mutation, which shows that she's gonna be around a little bit longer. She's one of my favorite mutants of all time, by the way. So I whenever I see something related to her on the screen, whether it's cartoon form or movie form, I either am super critical or I'm eating it up. So, um, but it's just the first season I thought was really done well. I didn't like some of the creative choices they did, but I also they took some big swings for some of these episodes, and I did like the creative choices they did. So um it definitely, regardless of how you felt about that first season, it ended on a big cliffhanger on what what the heck is gonna happen. And it was a cliffhanger that everyone unanimously said, we want to see what the next next thing is gonna be. And this teaser poster of season two, which we haven't gotten a trailer, but the trailer is out online on leaked cell phone footage because of the New York Comic-Con that happened last year. They showed it, but they never officially released it. So if you were one of those people that did see it, we're not gonna show that footage right now until they actually release it. But from what I did see, it was really good looking. It was and I'm excited. I'm excited for some things they alluded to, such as Apocalypse coming back and things like that. He's one of my favorite characters, but I like the version of Apocalypse in the the anime cartoons from the 90s, and it sounds like they're bringing that same one back. Sweet. And again, that does not translate well for the movies. So anyone who doesn't like X-Men Apocalypse, the film, yeah, I'm sorry. I I have to disagree with you on that. But anyway, so I'm not gonna get into that right now. We're gonna save that for that. That's a that's a hot take, according to everybody else. Yeah. Well, that's a hot take I'm willing to burn on because that's passionate. Anyways, so um, cool. I like seeing the first official glimpse released to the public. I'm excited. I am sure that by San Diego Comic-Con this year, we're gonna see a full trailer. If not, I believe the whole season is supposed to come out during the summer. So they might even premiere the episode there, and then it just starts on from there. We don't know their schedule, but I'm excited to see it. Um, yeah. I had the privilege too, I will just say, as an honorable mention, in this honorable mention, of meeting the cast of this show um at a comic convention um a couple years ago. I went with two of my best friends um to Rhode Island again, great comic convention, and I have those pictures proudly displayed in my um office and in my uh living room of meeting Lenore Zan and uh there's just oh childhood memories just coming to life. I would say Comic Conwood, and I kind of wish I didn't, but yeah, because we're all good people. Yeah, well, he's he's gotta go to the next one whenever we go again because they're just fun to do. They're great fan experiences. And yeah, we'll do a bunch of clips from it too for you folks if we can go. Oh, totally. Yes, yes. So um, yeah, that's that's my two that's my two cents on that. Sure. So I'm gonna read the next one too, Sam, since I can't see the others, so you can do the next one.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

Okay. You got it. So next one here in Moon Marvel News, okay. Marvel's television boss joins the escape podcast to discuss behind the scenes deets on She-Hulk, zombies, and more. Yeah, so and that do you have anything to say before I jump in? Sure. Um, I will say this. I I haven't watched these guys. I just discovered uh this podcast and they get my blood pressure up a lot. So no offense to you guys, you guys are doing great. Sometimes you have some fakes that make me want to reach through the screen and just pull me down to the table. And uh, but I think that's the point, and that's you guys are doing a great job. So keep doing what you're doing because it's very entertaining. Um also uh like awesome guests that you get for sure. Um, but I did go and I made sure to watch his clip for today so I knew what was being said. And I don't understand this guy who's doing this. Uh this this is what kind of fuels my frustration with the TV stuff. He wants more She-Hulk. Like what did he watch what he made, what they made? I mean, it's not good, guys. I mean, everybody knows it's not good. I know there might be people that could say it's not as bad as you say, and I'm with you, but deep down, dig down deep, guys, that was awful, and he knows it, he wants more of that. I mean, maybe he wants to correct it. Hey, you know what? Do another season and make it better. I'm in, I'll give him a shot. I like a lot of the stuff from it. There's things that she hawked that worked a lot. She's great as the character. CGI was okay. I can I can let CGI go for it being a TV show, you know. Uh uh the abomination stuff was iffy, but you had Tim Ross, that's a big actor, you know. Uh Juan was very fun in it. I think he fit in that kind of realm real well. Oh, and that's a real crappy show, guys. So I just started watching zombies actually this week for fun. Uh, and I I'm not because I was never gonna watch it, but I turned it on. And it's a good time. I would definitely want more zombies. I think it's a good time for an else world or or just this, you know, it's has nothing to do with anything. Just have fun with your characters. I've enjoyed what I've seen. You know, once again, it's an animation thing for me, but it's been fun to have on in the background. And I I watched one actually the other night and I surprisingly was invested. I'm like, wow, this is really good. Yeah, you know, so yeah, give us more of the zombies. I will take more of that for sure. That's the kind of stuff I want to see as this, really. I want the X-Men 97s, I want the zombies, I want the what if show to be longer, actually. You know, uh she hoped no, no, I don't want that, you know. So that's all I got to say about that.

SPEAKER_03 40:15

To to piggyback off of what you uh uh said, um well, first I'm I have to mention I do watch the escape pod podcast. I like what I started watching their clips when they were pulling up on my YouTube, and then after that, I'm like, I gotta see more of these guys because like like we are, we're Marvel nerds. I'm a huge Marvel nerd. So the meet two Marvel nerds through my phone be like, oh my gosh, you're doing the podcast that we want to do type of thing, you know, and now we're doing it. So I think that's really cool. I um I commend you guys for doing putting on a good show. And yeah, my blood gets boiling too. But what I love about it is that sometimes you hit points that my brother and I are saying, but it's not generally out there. And so I appreciate those other voices, but then you say things that I'm like, oh, why?

SPEAKER_02 41:03

Their take on the Dark Knight universe with Christopher Nolan, you guys.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

And this is no hate, by the way. This is just us, uh, everyone has different opinions. You're one of nine people that feel that way, just so you know.

SPEAKER_02 41:17

You guys are great, but there's nobody else feels that way about those movies except you guys.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

Yeah. But you even then, like I I appreciate you guys. I love tuning into your episodes and everything. So, and I I did watch this full episode because I do like watching them anyways, and um I think this is this is really cool that you had the um the TV boss on for Marvel, and um I I was very interested to hear his takes on some of those shows that did not re do well, and She-Hulk was one of them because I I have a love-hate relationship with a She-Hulk show. The love part is I love She-Hulk so much that I want I was anticipating her show, and then when we got it, I'm like, okay, strong first episode. When we do retrospective the She-Hulk show, because we are in our March to Doomsday. Um we'll dive into that a little bit more, but there's just I am I would like to talk to someone that um Brad here had mentioned. I think his name is Brad, right? Did I get it wrong? I am so sorry if I got it wrong, but I don't know if it's on mine.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Yeah, we didn't even put it down.

SPEAKER_03 42:26

Anyways, um, I'm just gonna say your name is Brad for the moment. Yeah, you're just gonna. I would I would love to see someone who is not a fan of Marvel that just likes television in general or comedies in general or things like that. I would love to hear their two cents on the show if it's exactly what Brad said it was in that episode, where according to him, it hit with the general audience really well and is one of their highest performing shows, but the fans did not like it. And obviously, this is a good example of your fans are your base. And if you get your fans excited about something and liking something, you will get more people that aren't even normal casual fans of the show to start liking it. So it's interesting for me to hear that when you type in She-Hawk on YouTube, you see all the negative stuff about her. Some of it is kind of uncalled for, I agree, but also some of it is kind of valid. And um, to hear that this is one of internally one of their highest rated shows, I want to meet someone who's watched a show and just likes it and doesn't know a thing about Marvel because I just have not yet met someone like that. That's an interesting, it's an interesting inquiry.

SPEAKER_02 43:38

Yeah, I I agree. I think they're gonna hate it just as even more because it it does it leans so hard on needing to be in that Marvel universe. But the problem with it is it's I think you're gonna get uh, you know, somewhere between the eight to five sixteen years. Year old younger kids that would find it more appealing because it's almost like a TikTok whole show. It's so ridiculous and out there and jokey, it's not serious. But that's your general audience you're getting for that. And that's been this this will go, we'll get into it more when we talk about the next news one, too. This has been my whole beef with the TV show thing in general, is you're catering to a specific audience with the TV shows on purpose. And I get it, I do that, but that's not what your agenda is with the movies. So your movies, you've done a very good job at making them accessible to everybody almost every time. You know, when you make Guardians of Galaxy, you got young kids to people that are 60 saying this is awesome, right? You're not gonna get that six-year-old liking She-Hulk. He's not gonna like it. You know, and you might get the young kid to like it. So then if She-Hulk has anything to do with the universe, there's your problem. Here's your here's your issue. It's it's just the clarity of where that universe of the TV show stands and aligned with the movies is the issue that we have on whether we like these shows or not. I'm definitely a heck of a lot more uh critical about the show, thinking that I'm gonna need to know this as I go into the movies. If I watch the show knowing it has zero things to do with the movies and it's just a show to watch, I wouldn't have been as hard on it.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

I'd have been like, that's unique, not for me. Pretty cool, go watch it. Yeah, I think that's the I think, in my opinion, that's the that's the point. I don't mind. I actually kind of like this idea of what the original intent of the Disney Plus shows were. You take those um what people would view as the B and C tier characters that aren't your your breadwinners, the Kahoma film type thing, and you want to explore what they're like while you have those actors here still portraying them and do a six to nine episode thing, sometimes half hour, sometimes an hour, depending on what it is. I think that's really cool. The only the only thing gripe I have on it is when they start saying you have to watch the show in order to get the next movie. Because, like you said, everything from movie-wise, you could jump from movie to movie and you have the great experience. Sometimes, yeah, for the hardcore fans, you have to know what happened in the movie prior to that, but you didn't have to watch a whole show prior to that to figure it out. And what I like about the show thing too is like you have Kamala Khan, Ms. Marvel, you have Daredevil, two completely opposite type of characters with their own unique style. And if you like those characters from the comics or you like that style of TV shows, you will like those f uh those shows. But then when you put them into the movies, I don't want to have to re-rewatch those shows or educate myself on both characters to enjoy them in the movie. And I think that's what Marvel has done wrong.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

Well, what yeah, what they've done wrong is not so much what you don't want to do, it's that they've never made it clear to you if you have to or it's one thing to be like that doesn't I don't want to either. But if they told us from the start that we had to, then we'd understand that okay, we gotta accept this and do what we can do, and we probably would have went on board, still been as critical about it, but at least we know what we're getting means something later. Yeah. Because I mean, I loved the first season of Loki, loved it until I found out it really isn't that important. And then, oh, there's things that happened to Loki that made me think, why is this not in a movie? When when it branched off in there, and I'm like, oh my god, this is huge for the Marvel universe. Come to find out it's not that big a deal because no, it's not really part of it. Wait a minute. But now is it with the now it is, right? Because when we go into Doomsday, Loki's supposed to be. So do I not have to see any of Loki to go to Doomsday? They haven't told us this yet or not. Or yet they have actually said in they've even gone back on it with Wanda. We'll talk about it in the next one. It's like the WandaVision thing. It's like, hey, you don't need to see WandaVision to watch Doctor Strange Multiverse and Madness. Uh yeah, you don't, you really don't. Although the kids thing was kind of like a boy, where'd that come from? But you really didn't have to see WandaVision. I get it. You know, but if you want to know anything about vision still being alive, you'd need to see WandaVision.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 48:24

Right? Thankfully, this next thing we're gonna talk about is a show. But yeah, for the Wanda point of view, we actually have firsthand experience of someone who didn't watch the show and went into Doctor Strange thinking, yeah, what's this of Wanda? She's a villain now, she has kids, what's all this? What movie did I miss? And be like, you didn't miss a movie. It was an epic show, probably one of their best-rated shows, in my opinion, they've ever done. But the fact that you had to know the show in order to watch Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness and know where Wanda's coming from, that was the problem. Yeah. And I think that if they didn't do that, it would have made that movie ten times better than what it was.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:57

It's like, guys, if you want free range and you want this guy here, Brian, let's call him, hopefully it's his name. If he wants more She-Hulk the way that they did it, then something like you, you need to just come out and say, Okay, guys, let's be clear. As of right now, you don't need to see the shows to watch the movies. You just don't. And then be and stick to that. Or you do need to see the shows and stick to that. Because that's where the confusion's coming in. I don't want another She-Hulk because to me, I think it's irrelevant personally. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

That's kind of how I feel about it.

unknown 49:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:33

All right. Well, um by the way, on all these, and we haven't mentioned it yet, but if you have um your two cents on these things and opinions, please tell us in the comments below. Like and subscribe to this video too, because we definitely need that for growing our channel. And we're gonna move on to the last honorable mention of our news segment right now. And um, I did not put this on the paper, so I'm gonna do the best I can to read it from as far away as I am right now. But it looks like Marvel Studios has trademarked something called Infinity Vision. This happened at the end of March, and there is a lot of speculation of what this actually is, I guess. Under the trademark, from what this is reported, by the way, from what this is um referring to is something of the studios of a movie themselves. Now, it's it is unclear if this is the title of a television episode of Vision Quest that's coming out later this year called Infinity Vision. If this is a new name for the Vision Quest called Infinity Vision, we have no idea. But it is an official trademark thing now that Marvel Studios has put in. So it is something they're gonna be doing with it. It could even be a what if episode that they're just filming, we have no idea too, because that plays on to what what if was showing is that there's what if ultra had won and had from Age of Ultra and all that stuff. So there's a lot of tie-ins to that too. But regardless of it, Ike, what is your two cents on this news?

SPEAKER_02 50:56

Yeah, I really don't care. Um, it's I would love more Paul Bettney as uh vision. I think he's great as it. I don't think they know what to do with this character. I think that they brought him back and won the vision just so they could have reason to have him in it again if they wanted to. And I like I told you at the beginning before we even started, I'm like, vision's still alive? You know, it's like who vision who? You know, it's like, oh yeah, that guy. Yeah. Yeah, it's just been so long now. Where um, yeah, I don't know. I don't think they know what to do with him. You know, I don't I don't think they've ever treated him in the way that made a lot of sense, anyways. Um, I think he's a great character. I love seeing him in the movies. I think they've always struggled with how powerful do we make him, how powerful do we don't. So we need to write his character in a way where he doesn't use his powers because of certain choices he makes, because he's kind of too powerful. But we're starting to hit that with the MCU right now, anyways, where we got some major powerful players, and you kind of just like, at what point is too powerful too powerful? You know, we got like three different kinds of Superman level people in the MCU right now, kinda. So let's, you know, yeah, let's get let's be careful about what we do with them because then you're gonna have to start dumbing some of them down, or what you call nerfing them, right? Which is gonna make people upset. And at the same time, you know, you can't put some of these people against others, you know. So I don't know what they're gonna do when Gene Gray becomes a phoenix, because that's it right there, folks. You know, but of course they're not gonna do that though, because there's always gonna be someone more powerful, right? So I don't know. I think that's the that's the crazy thing about what's going on right now. So I'd be curious, I'm curious, I'd like to see what they're gonna do. It'd be nice to know just out of curiosity. But frankly, I got no kind of stake in this. I don't know how legit I think they're just saying it to make people think he's to keep him relevant because I still don't think they really know what to do with him, to be honest with you. You know, he's not in these next two movies, that's not making any sense either. You know, it's like there's certain things that aren't gonna make sense with him just gone right now. He's just white vision. Where is he even? Like they're not talking about this, no one's talked about this. It's it's one of those things that Marvel's done where they've overstepped and they're not sure what to do, so they just do nothing. So then later when they do something, they can't say they'd have continuity problems, which in itself is a continuity problem. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:23

So from from my understanding of this show, and if I I don't know exactly where I heard this from, but from from my understanding at least, and please correct me if I'm wrong in the comments below, if this isn't an actual thing and this is just something that someone rumored to be out there said, um Vision Quest is the last show that Marvel has done or is doing currently that has to tie into the MCU film continuity.

SPEAKER_02 53:48

Is that official that they've kind of said?

SPEAKER_03 53:49

The last thing that I knew of was that was the last one that they already had in production, then they couldn't backtrack on it or fix it or do anything like that where they had to do that.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

We have to take to heart.

SPEAKER_03 54:02

We do, yeah. Ironheart's gonna have some hot takes there when we get there, folks. And that's gonna be that's gonna probably be this November by the time we get to it, because that's so later on. But anyways, um when we get to that retrospective, so bad. But yes, apparently that has something to do with the MCU too. But I um I I'm excited to see Ultron from what I've heard of it, even on that escape pod episode, he talked about um Vision Quest, and that he's just been reviewing some of the episodes or something like that, and they're fantastic, they're phenomenal. And I'm excited. I like James Spader as Ultron. When we get to that movie, we'll definitely talk more about him. But the note knowing that he's returning as that villain, which is a really great villain, by the way. Um, I am excited for some of those things. I'm curious exactly how they're gonna do this show. So I'm taking it with a grain of salt going into it. And I know this is supposed to be the conclusion of their three-show trilogy of WandaVision, Agatha All Along, and Vision Quest. So we're gonna see how that results at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

But yeah, bringing Ultron back's weird, right? I mean, I hope he's just kind of like a voice inside him that is part of him still, and just like tries to you know, like the good guy at one shoulder, bad guy on the other, and Ultron's just kind of like talking crap to him.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

I think that'd be kind of fun, you know? I always believe the Ultron was still there. Uh he's artificial intelligence, and yeah, the division locked him out and of the internet in Age of Ultron, but who doesn't know if he has a back copy? Like, come on, he's Ultron, he's supposed to be super. Yeah, and Sweden kind of did him dirty in Ultron and Age of Ultron, so be kind of nice to have him. It'd be nice to see him back, and I like James Spader as a so I think that's pretty cool. So I'm I am excited to see that. I'm a little nervous about the CGI, depending on how they're bringing Ultron back, because that would be on for a TV show. That's one of the things we talked about for She-Haul, because that when you hear these shows having the budget of a movie, oh that sounds cool, but then you think about it, these shows are three times longer than the movie when you cut them down. So your budget really should have been a little bit bigger if you're gonna do the CGI epics type thing. Yeah, agreed. Uh either, anyways, just to put a pin on that, I I personally think this is just an episode title of the Vision Quest show, unless anything official comes out of it that they're changing it, which that probably will be something at San Diego Comic-Con. I don't think that's a um uh Cinemacon thing they're gonna be talking about because it's Disney Plus. It has nothing to do with cinemas, but maybe um this is definitely a this is definitely a a uh San Diego thing. Definitely if if anything, San Diego or they have D kind of D23, which is like a month about a month later. That's a Disney owned thing. That's where I could see something like this being announced. But anyways, guys, question is for you. What do you think about all of our news of the week so far? What do you think of this episode so far? If you're watching this as a segment, you could watch a full episode right now um on our YouTube or listen to us wherever you stream. But what do you think of our multiverse minute of this week? Comment and like down below.