What's Your Favorite Dinosaur!? Podcast
Host Nicole Melnyk @mcfancyvonpants on IG interviews people (usually comics, always her friends) about their favorite dinosaur!
What's Your Favorite Dinosaur!? Podcast
01x06 Whats Your Favorite Dinosaur Podcast w/ Michele Hart
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this week host comedian Nicole Melnyk goes on a WILD ride with musician, producer, writer and dino expert Michele Hart of the Detroit scene! Together they discuss such things as Elon Musk, capitalism and how Carcharodontosaurus is pronounced! Come along for the Hilarious Ride!
What's up, Dino fans? It's Nicole from What's Your Favorite Dinosaur Podcast?
SPEAKER_04And Dunno Dino Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun.
SPEAKER_00It was the Lick McCracken.
SPEAKER_03Alright, guys, this is um the episode five of What's Your Favorite Dime Show Podcast with me, Nicole Felic, and our guest today is Michelle. Oh, that was awesome.
SPEAKER_00I'm Michelle.
SPEAKER_03Michelle, tell the tell the audience, tell Nadine, that's my friend who watches this pod. Um tell Nadine what you do for or my the thing is I used to say comics, and then people would be like, I'm more than a comic. I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_00Well, I am sadly more than a comic.
SPEAKER_03No, no, no.
SPEAKER_00Uh that is tra it is tragic, I know, but I am sadly more than a comic.
SPEAKER_03I am uh um Oh yeah, you have a bunch of your show skills. I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_00I am a uh writer and director of uh uh plays and shows. Multiple. Um I also do uh uh some I've done stand-up previously, and I do other sort of improv comedy skits bits and stylings.
SPEAKER_01And plays guitar.
SPEAKER_00And I do play guitar, but that's not I don't I am doing that in a show, actually. I actually do have a s I actually did write a song for a show, so I am playing guitar for a show. Uh so I do I do that too. I am a multi-hyphenite. You can call me a multi-hyphenite if you want me to kill myself.
SPEAKER_03Here with multi-hyphenate.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00I wish that shotgun mic that's pointed at me right now was a shotgun.
SPEAKER_03Whoa, that would be so crazy.
SPEAKER_00Kurt Copain myself.
SPEAKER_03Oh no. We might cut that out for the kids. Just kidding.
SPEAKER_00Is this a series? Is this like a non can I make scale offensive jokes?
SPEAKER_03I like to make jokes, because whenever you upload something on YouTube, it goes, is it for the kids? And I have to be like, no, and they're like, how bad is it? I'm like, I just want to swear. I just want to swear and make, you know, references to Epstein and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00I don't wanna And references to COVID-19. And now this is demonetized.
SPEAKER_03And now, yeah, and restricted. Well, the suicide reference I think also will get you demonized.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, suicide, COVID, Epstein.
SPEAKER_03You have to say sewicide, so it's a good band name. Whoa, that actually I'm sick band name. I saw it in like cool font when I was saying it. The sewer slide.
SPEAKER_00Sewer slide girls. That would be a fun band name.
SPEAKER_03That's so good! Holy shit. Today's episode.
SPEAKER_00Um Welcome back to the Sewer Slide Girls.
SPEAKER_03Um, we yeah, so that's cool that you're more than a comic. I always um I wish I could do that. I wish I had other talents.
SPEAKER_00You have other talents. Uh you're sassy. You're cute.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You're sly.
SPEAKER_03Ooh.
SPEAKER_00These are talents. These are skills.
SPEAKER_03They're yeah, that's true. They're just not suited really well anywhere else.
SPEAKER_00Could you do a competitive eating? Do you think? No.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, I wish.
SPEAKER_00Competitive drinking.
SPEAKER_03Ooh. That is a thing. Um maybe competitive drinking like water.
SPEAKER_00That is a thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's a real thing.
SPEAKER_03The um the s the sewer slide girls are number one champions in the water chugging contest.
SPEAKER_00Just just that's what we do. We turn it into pea and it goes down the sewer slide.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Whoa, that's what makes the sewer slide girls. See, people at the water park are worried about there being pee in their pool water. We are worried that there's pool water in our pee.
SPEAKER_00That's that's a good one.
SPEAKER_03Okay, and so this is um, yeah. Wow. Is there anything you can't do?
SPEAKER_00Okay, now I'm fully on the spot. Um, I cannot, I could juggle as a kid, I can't anymore. Whoa! Um, I can't I stopped, I stopped doing it, so I can't do it anymore. I wish I could juggle. I cannot play cello. I cannot I could probably learn it, but I can't play it. Uh there's a it sucks. When you when you have to list things, there's a lot of things I can't do. There's many, many things I can't do. Um so we'll just leave it at that. Most of the things I listed are the only things I can do.
SPEAKER_03Ooh, that's a good that's a good out.
SPEAKER_00Oh, and I can I can do multi-step synthesis. I can do that. So that's cool.
SPEAKER_03Whoa, is that where they loop it and then add another chemistry.
SPEAKER_00The other kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_03Hey, we're gonna cut that out where I look like a fucking idiot.
SPEAKER_00No, it was a that was actually, I thought it was a good joke.
SPEAKER_03I mean then I was joking, and I'm such a clever writer. Um Wow. Okay, so but you like dinosaurs? That's what I do like dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_00Are you gonna ask me a qu per perchance a question about them?
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna ask you a couple different questions about dinosaurs. That's so crazy, that's why we're here. All that other stuff, um, all that other stuff, fluff. Now we're here for the mean potatoes. This is, yeah, the first thing that we like to do on what's your favorite dinosaur podcast is is figure out where you came to me with dinosaur wants to pod. Yes. And so uh the first question is is always on a scale of one dinosaur to five dinosaurs, how much do you like dinosaurs?
SPEAKER_00I have a hot I don't know, I like all animals almost equally. Well so I don't know whether or not to give dinosaurs or pret like a five because all animals are a five, or if I should like meter it and give dinos a three because I don't want to give them the spotlight. But then again, dinos kinda they kinda earn the spotlight in a lot of ways. So I think I'm gonna give I'm gonna give how about I I give the um Mesozoic era a five.
SPEAKER_03Ooh.
SPEAKER_00So like the dinosaur era. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Okay. Five. Counts. That counts. I'll give it a five. Heard it here first, folks. That's I'm really hung up on this. You love all animals?
SPEAKER_00I do love all animals. I love worms.
SPEAKER_03Whoa.
SPEAKER_00I love blood worms. Show an image of a blood worm's hooks on the screen. It'll be right here.
SPEAKER_03Oh man, that's gonna be hard for me to figure out how to edit, but I'm excited.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, so uh yeah, I like all sorts of animals. There's no animals I truly hate. I don't like being around some animals, but I also wouldn't like being around dinosaurs, I think. I think they'd freak out if I was around a T Rex.
SPEAKER_03Dinosaurs would they scare me so much.
SPEAKER_00They're so big.
SPEAKER_03They're so big.
SPEAKER_00The small ones I could I could, you know.
SPEAKER_03I think even the small ones I'm a little bit scared of. I'm scared of chickens, dude.
SPEAKER_00Dinos are like I could beat the shit out of a chicken. I could kick a chicken's teeth in. I could beat a chicken. You know, my my great-grandmother would r raise chickens and uh she would just grab them by the head and kill him in one go. So you can kill a chicken pretty easy.
SPEAKER_03I have I have heard stories of that. Like you just need to crank your neck a little.
SPEAKER_00And they're done. Oh. Really weak. They got hollow bones, just like dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03They got hollow bones. Yeah, no, I agree. I just um I'm a skittish. A chicken, I'll be like, I'm gonna catch this pigeon, and it'll turn, and I'll be like, bah, no matter what.
SPEAKER_00I think you're like that a little bit with people too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. That's cute.
SPEAKER_00I think you're you're definitely like that with women. Uh I don't think so. Uh you you actually, that's like the one group you're not like that with. You're very comfortable around women and not anything else.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's yeah, everything else, if it's not a girl, it's not for me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's how I feel. Um, also that way about dinosaurs. My second favorite females, dinosaurs. Yeah. Only the girl dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_00Are are dinosaurs a species where the females are larger than the males?
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's such a good question that I bet you a real dinosaur expert would know.
SPEAKER_00It's a good question.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna look that up.
SPEAKER_00I we could look that. Should I pull it up?
SPEAKER_03No, no, no, because we only have 17%.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Okay. We also have a good light indicator to know when the when the thing dies.
SPEAKER_03Oh, sick. That's so smart.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so we can we can watch this fucking camera die in real time.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah. Uh no, that's um. Are the girl species? I feel like I would have read that somewhere.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think they are. I think they are. But I don't know if birds are. But I think no, birds aren't. Ostriches I know aren't. Uh male ostriches are much larger than female ostriches.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00So I don't think dinosaurs, at certain at least not theropod dinosaurs, are uh species where sexual dimorphism leads to larger females than males.
SPEAKER_03But in Jurassic Park also, they were they were um they were all supposed to be girls, I thought. When they called them, they were all supposed to be girls. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh, let's not talk about Jurassic Park, I have to.
SPEAKER_03You hate Jurassic Park?
SPEAKER_00I think that it's an interesting story concept for the first movie, but I only like the first movie, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I agree with that. I agree. I that's a hot take. I I'm okay with.
SPEAKER_00I kind of like World because I like that they go along the lines of like, well, we're just not even making dinosaurs anymore. We're just making monsters for people to enjoy. Which is what they were doing in the first movie. Yeah. Um and in fact, there's a line I think in World that is like more aligned with the book where they're like, these are just not dinosaurs. Like, yeah. They're so dinosaur DNA has not survived. There is none left on this planet, um, other than in the in the bodies of birds. So we we cannot recreate dinosaurs. Too late.
SPEAKER_03Too late, we missed out.
SPEAKER_00Rip bozo.
SPEAKER_03But um, yeah, I only like the first one, and then um I don't really like World because I don't like um Chris Pratt. I'm really fair. I like being on that.
SPEAKER_00So you're not gonna see Mario 2?
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna see Mario. You heard it here first, guys. What's your favorite dinosaur is an anti-Mario 2 podcast.
SPEAKER_00Rip Rip Mario.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, I don't uh I also do think just a little bit that Hollywood is the cash grab, and they talk about it a little bit in the book of like it really w it's like um it's just a bunch of scientists that wanted to see what would happen, and then the government got involved, and then they then it had to be a secret, and then you could pay people off, and then and then guys died, like and no one cared. Like there's it reminds me so much of like capitalism and uh and then now it's a a cash grab of a movie where they're just like now we're just making monsters, and you're like, make a fucking dinosaur then, for Christ's sake.
SPEAKER_00Make one for real.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Make a for real dinosaur.
SPEAKER_03I think they're trying. I think Elon Musk said he's trying to.
SPEAKER_00I hate Elon. I hate Elon Musk.
SPEAKER_03We obviously We're an anti-Elon podcaster.
SPEAKER_00This episode at least is definitely anti-Elon. You might get someone who's pro-Elon in the future.
SPEAKER_03If you're watching this and you're pro-Elon, turn it the fuck off now. Because henceforth you won't enjoy it either. Um, yeah, I hope that he builds Jurassic Park as poorly as he builds everything else and then he don't have to eat. He eats it right up. Eats it right up.
SPEAKER_00I hope he gets eaten by his own dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03That yeah. Oh, that would be so cool.
SPEAKER_00Honestly, it would be so funny if he if he did Jurassic Park because he would be so upset about the dinosaurs being transgender.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, he would be so mad! That's so funny.
SPEAKER_00Wait, that's I have one more They call it a dead name because um the dinosaurs are dead to me now.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I had a bunch of gay dino questions.
SPEAKER_00Solidarity to Vivian, but but that was a that was a funny joke, I think.
SPEAKER_03Vivian, if you're watching, please watch.
SPEAKER_00Vivian, whatever you changed your last name to. Please watch this podcast.
SPEAKER_03Vivian, please. Vivian, you're our only hope.
SPEAKER_00That's a good one. Yeah. They got dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03Whoa! Right?
SPEAKER_00They got kind of dinosaur-like creatures.
SPEAKER_03I don't know that that universe is classifying them using the same.
SPEAKER_00Probably not.
SPEAKER_03You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00They call they call it English basic, which seems uh imperialist, but Whoa, they call it English basic? Yeah, the basic language is is called uh uh the common language, which is English, is called basic. This has nothing to do with dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03This has nothing to do with dinosaurs, that's okay. When me and Emily were on our we just we would be like Tyrannosaurus Rex! And then we're like, brought it back to dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03You just have to bring up dinosaurs. It doesn't even have to um wait, yeah. So you said that the Mesozoic Eric rates five out of five. That's so fun. And then, um you know a lot about dinosaurs?
SPEAKER_00I know a good amount about dinosaurs. I probably know more than average.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's so fun.
SPEAKER_00I don't think I know enough to consider myself any sort of expert. I think I've I think I've nailed the other end of the Dunning-Kruger effect where I I assume I know basically nothing about dinosaurs. Um but there like I I I I know a lot of facts about dinosaurs, and I can name many dinosaur species, but I I don't know almost I we we as a species know basically nothing about dinosaurs because we're only working off of fossil information. So we kind of just don't know shit already, and then there are people who who don't know shit who are experts, and I'm not even fucking close to that.
SPEAKER_03Like Yeah, but also the the more dinosaurs you get, the more specific you can get, and then you get to be an expert in like frickin' a certain range of potosaurs. Yeah, it's like shit. You don't know anything about dinosaurs then you know about a couple of dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well they probably know most about they probably know general things about every dinosaur, and then they know everything that we know about like four dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00Because there are some dinosaurs, you we know we only know like eight things. So there's an expert who knows all the eight things about that dinosaur. And that's their job.
SPEAKER_03Oh he knows all eight things so good, or she knows so good. Yeah. Um, that's a good point. But they say that there's like it's like a Dunning Krueger adjacent where um when you're an expert at one thing, you assume that you're an expert at other things, and that actually you're not. It's like happens, they say in science, and like the they go, Of course I know how to do this thing.
SPEAKER_00I'm an That should be called the Neil deGrasse Tyson affair.
SPEAKER_03We hate Neil deGrasse Tyson! We actually don't.
SPEAKER_00I actually like Neil deGrasse Tyson. What? I actually like him because he's cutting this out. He's so such like a weirdly staunch trans ally.
SPEAKER_03Okay, alright, I'm back in.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he pulled you back in with that. Like it's so out there that he's like debating Ben Shapiro and he's like, well, maybe you're completely wrong about trans people. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Neil you're on thin fucking ice.
SPEAKER_00He's on thin ice, but he's he's he's he's he's got uh he's spread out on the ice, so he's not gonna fall through.
SPEAKER_03Oh, because he knows. Oh, I think it just died. That's so funny. Wow, what a good that was.
SPEAKER_00We could just do non-video for the rest.
SPEAKER_03Ooh! Oh my god, okay, yeah. Wait, should this be Did you guys you guys did no video? Everyone keeps yelling at me for doing video.
SPEAKER_00I think you can you can get you you shouldn't only do video. Um you should have video and audio. So this would be this would be a uh uh probably going where no Nepal has gone before in this in this specific realm where you've never done just an audio.
SPEAKER_03I've never done just an audio.
SPEAKER_00Uh we can use the video for the first part, but now this would be also a good time to test your editing skills to tank the the uh figure out a nice video background that you can throw up and say, like, the video died here, so I'm just gonna throw stuff up and then just use this to test your editing skills to improve the video. Okay, but then So cut everything up until this and let's go right back into it.
SPEAKER_03Wait, because yeah, I'm gonna go, well, but wait, oh, because we're not even we're just not even gonna be a part two. This is just we're gonna keep going.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, do you want to do a part two?
SPEAKER_03No, no, no, no, no. I love this idea. We're just gonna Nobody yeah, so this is forced learning. This is also a test to see who actually watches the show. If they don't hit me up and go, hey, the audio fell off at the halfway through Michelle's episode, I'm gonna go, you know what I mean? Like they're um, but also, yeah, now I'm thinking about cool backgrounds.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you you could have something. So something uh uh some podcasts will do is they'll just basically have a the video posted over a background so there's like a border around it. Um and that's also something that you use if you're reposting clips to other areas. You'll create like a template that's like a a 9x16 vertical, and you'll you'll put on top of that template you'll have like the four by three video segment so that you can Yeah, there's there's all sorts of styles the podcast I think. I'm sure the listeners don't care.
SPEAKER_01The listeners don't even care. They're like, talk about dinosaurs for pussy.
SPEAKER_00Okay, we we're just gonna cut back in. Why don't we cut back in and say Neil deGrasse Tyson? Uh the video went out, and then but back to but back to NDT.
SPEAKER_03Neil deGrasse Tyson had he has allegations. He he touched a couple ladies he wasn't supposed to. What? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00He had allegations.
SPEAKER_03That's why I don't like him.
SPEAKER_00I did not know he had allegations.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, me and Julia and Jason discovered it, like, uh because I had heard about them and that's why I started hating him. I didn't really do any further research because I'm an idiot. Yeah. But then we Wikipedia did, and he's got like a couple of couple of girlies from his past. It was when he was uh not famous though. He's not the worst guy ever. There's certainly worse people.
SPEAKER_00Yes, but he's apparently a bad guy. He's apparently a bad guy.
SPEAKER_03Um, but I don't think he's in the Epstein files. That's the barometer I got now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03He never hit up old Jeff for some girls.
SPEAKER_00That would be pretty bad. Bill Gates. Bill Gates, Bill Clinton. Lot of bills.
SPEAKER_03Lot of bills! What but then this is um Jeff Jeffrey Epstein, they said that he would like go he would just fund mad scientist experiments because he was like cloning babies and stuff like that. Have you heard have you ever done a deep dive?
SPEAKER_00Not that deep of a dive, I just assume he did awful stuff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, oh he did awful stuff and then weird stuff. Like, you know what I mean? You're like, oh, that's awful. That's I can't believe a person would do that. And then there's other stuff where you're like, what?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um that's really good is that apparently a large part of the like transphobic rhetoric and racist rhetoric that's come out has has been associated with like Epstein and them organizing how to get people to not focus on the one true war in the class war. Uh and uh so now people, whenever someone says something like bigoted online, uh people will say nice nice opinion. Did Epstein give it to you?
SPEAKER_02Whoa, that's so funny.
SPEAKER_00Because it's like that that like obviously is a distraction from the Oh, that's awesome! And uh and then in the files they reaffirm that. Assuming that that's true, and actually within the files, and we don't I'm I don't know. It's I don't I don't want to trust the stuff that that the federal government puts out about Epstein, um, because I don't trust the federal government, but I also want to believe it. But I do wonder how much of it is a distraction.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's absolutely g Ghillane was on 4chan and would make a it would it would fuel fake conspiracies so that they would look insane, even though you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Because then you're like They created poll, basically. Yeah. They worked together to create that political environment. That's and it makes sense that they would do that because it has worked very well. It's a basic. It's working so well. So clever of them. It's like the one time rich people had serious foresight to control society. Dude! No, I don't think it's gonna work in the end.
SPEAKER_02You don't think it's gonna work?
SPEAKER_00I think I I don't think I don't think so, no. No, I'm I'm uh I'm very optimistic. I don't think they're I just don't think they're there's a certain kind of non-forward thinking that comes with being at the top of society where you have to be super reactionary. So their plans never go that far into the future. Yeah um that's like the whole thing with with Trump um trying to get rid of the quarterly sales report, is that the reason they're doing that is because they're saying that China does that, because China plans 50 to 100 years ahead, but China got that from communist theory, which is about planning an economy. China is not a communist country, they're they're state capitalists, but they do have a largely planned economy in many regards, and that allows them to do forward thinking. Like that's the thing that they're using as a tool to do forward thinking, which the American government and the American economy won't do. It's not centrally planned, or logically really planned at all, other than to make profit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, to make profit. That's what I always think, that's what it always comes down to, to make profit.
SPEAKER_00So they won't, they they cannot make profit and think ahead ahead. You can't do both of those things. It's a contradiction. So they'll try to do both of those things, but what it's always going to pull one way or another, and it in the case of profiteering, it almost always pulls.
SPEAKER_03It's always profit. It always is profit. They want to profit so bad.
SPEAKER_00Even if it makes society better, more functional, and ultimately would lead to significantly more profit in like a thousand years. They don't care about it.
SPEAKER_03I yeah, I do, that's why I like identifying as an anarchist, and then people go with Denwa, I go, I don't have to believe in Denwah. I anarchist. Get rid of it.
SPEAKER_00Though you could you could just be a communist and believe in a classic money with society. I didn't even know that was an option. That is communism kind of covers your bases there.
SPEAKER_03I got this cool idea for you. Communism.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03No, uh yeah, I just I I I think that in knowing and understanding That America is they have dinosaur bones there, you know. Um this is how I brought back to the dinosaur bone.
SPEAKER_00They do have dinosaur bones in the back.
SPEAKER_03In America, I think that because we're so profit-driven, I think that the only thing that is going to sort of grind the system to a halt is like uh the overthrow. But then I think once the vacuum's created, I think it ends. This is what they'll tell you. Um it's gonna create a vacuum that makes everything worse. And then so you're like, okay, fine, then we shouldn't overthrow America.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But that's what I want.
SPEAKER_00That's the yeah, it's it's the thing is that it's not like I don't want to go too much into this. I'm not I'm not that educated, I'm not as theoretically studied as other comrades, as it were.
SPEAKER_03Umrades, if you want to be on the show, hit me up.
SPEAKER_00Uh, but one one of the uh things is like, yeah, the counter-revolution is sort of the worry. Is that you you you have a revolution, you overthrow the capitalist system, and then uh, or you overthrow the system, or like you get the workers basically all working together to create a society that functions without the bourgeois apparatus. But then the bourgeois apparatus would still sort of exist and would try to fight back. Yeah. Or you would have opportunists within the uh revolution that would try to try take control. That's what happened in the USSR. Um then you you also have some collaborationism where you might have like some paramilitary force, like, for instance, the police in America could do this, where the the police would uh join the workers, but being a paramilitary organization could then usurp power from the uh working class like party equivalent and uh lead it in back basically right into bourgeois capitalism.
SPEAKER_03I think that happens way more often than we think.
SPEAKER_00That happens in basically every failed revolution. Okay, cool. That's what I meant. That happened in Sudan.
SPEAKER_03Uh I don't know every revolution, but uh the ones I've read about, I'm like, so fucking yeah.
SPEAKER_00And it's it's usually some theoretical failure on the part of the um working class revolution. Uh or it's it's yeah, just like revolutionary moments happen uh in societies no matter what, and if you don't plan for them, they'll just repeat the cycle again. Yeah. Basically. So you have to plan for it. That's why you need a revolutionary communist party. Uh that's the basic that's the basic idea there. Uh join the RCA today.
SPEAKER_01This is such a fun episode!
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um this might be horrible use of language. I might be being way more careless than I should be. I'm trying not to be, but hopefully this is educational to someone. No, that was awesome.
SPEAKER_03Hit us up if you want more details about being communism. Um, question number two?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think I don't think I don't think we got five out of five dinosaurs. That's so funny! Yeah, we've been going for 45 minutes. No, I'm kidding. We've only been going for 30, so it's okay, cool.
SPEAKER_03Okay, not that bad. Um, yeah, wait, okay, so question number two. That is such a fun intro. That's just the intro.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, no, question number two is do what's from your um childhood, what's a dinosaur that stuck out to you or that you remember finally as a dinosaur fan? What was what was the one that was?
SPEAKER_00I watched you. I watched the Disney movie Dinosaur.
SPEAKER_03Whoa! Oh, I love that.
SPEAKER_00And I I saw this this amazing creature by the name of the connoitle. And I loved the three connois.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's adorable. I've never seen dinosaur, but everyone's everyone keeps saying. It's really not good. You shouldn't speak.
SPEAKER_00It's so ugly. It's one of the most butt-fucking ugly CGI cartoons I've ever seen. It's so ugly. They're just they're just they're But they don't even got dinos, they just call them shit. Shark tooth.
SPEAKER_03I love it, I love it. I love it.
SPEAKER_00Bullshit. You can't be faking them.
SPEAKER_03No, because this is why. This is why I, as a dinosaur expert, that's what I call myself. I'm not really but I like that they go, it's it's shark tooth and long because that's what people who don't know dinosaurs think of dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like the T-Rex, every big dinosaur I go, that's a T-Rex.
SPEAKER_00Way back when Jesus was riding a dinosaur, uh, he just called him shark tooth.
SPEAKER_03He called him shark tooth and long neck.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's very, I'm very okay. I don't even like what people's favorite dinosaurs like a stegosaurus. I'm like, that's a basic ass dinosaur. You need to do more research.
SPEAKER_00That I do like stegosaurus. It's got a thagamizer. That's what they call this tail spikes, a thagamizer. That's sick. Like, that's a good dinosaur to like. But if it's the only dinosaur you know, then it's That's what I'm saying!
SPEAKER_03And people get away with being like, oh, I like stegosaurus and brontosaurus, and you're like, I get it. You read one dinosaur book.
SPEAKER_00Whenever someone tells me they like one of those dinosaurs, I say you like stegosaurus, you should check out Kentrasaur.
SPEAKER_03That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00And I just tell them another dinosaur that's related, and then they'll go, oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03In dinosaur video game, there's like four like triceratops cousins that are all way cooler looking triceratops. You're like, this is how it happens.
SPEAKER_00I like protoceratops, yeah. Pacchirhinoceros, is that is that it's like the flat one. Um there's a couple other silly guys in there. I can't think of them right now.
SPEAKER_03There's something.
SPEAKER_00I I was never a big um sauropod or uh sauropsid or uh it's a weirdly it's a fan favorite.
SPEAKER_03A lot of people love that. I don't like it.
SPEAKER_00I don't like the herbivore dinosaurs so much, other than Therizinosaurus, which is a theropod dinosaur, uh, which is a so it's related to like T-Rex and Volatrophora. It's on that side, but it eats plants and it has the longest, I believe it's the longest claws to body ratio of any energy. Oh it's either that or just the longest claws in nature because it's you know 20 feet tall and it's got three foot-long claws.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, wow.
SPEAKER_00But it's got these huge slashing claws, and so they thought it used them to bridate on stuff, but no, it would whack trees in the room.
SPEAKER_03I like when it's deceptively defended or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's got its own use. It's very unique.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I love it. I yeah, I don't like herbivores. Um, I don't like flying, and I don't like water.
SPEAKER_00I like big Well, the flying and water ones, they're not dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03I know, but that's I'm glad you said that because literally I understand what you mean, but a lot of times I'll be like, what's your favorite dinosaur? And people go, oh, the megalodon, and you're like, so that's a shark.
SPEAKER_00You said a fish. What the fuck? You can't say a fish!
SPEAKER_03That's not what the fuck I asked, but I but that's what I mean.
SPEAKER_00I I Also, also Megalodon, not from the Mesozoic era. From like the last like 40 million years. Like literally so far removed.
SPEAKER_03People don't have like that's what I mean. They don't or like you know what I mean? In my dinosaur video game, you can make an Adonymous Rex, which is like from the movie. I'm like, that's not even a real fucking dinosaur. But there's so many missions that make you, they go, oh, build a uh Adonymous Rex. And I'm like, I don't want to fucking play with this fake ass dinosaur.
SPEAKER_00Did you see the Distortus Rex from Jurassic World Rebirth? I saw Jurassic World Rebirth in theaters because I am a cuck chill for big movie with the action, and I corrupt it and I eat the popcorn. I eat the popcorn and popcorn to get it back to candy for free with the popcorn in the drink combo. And you see it at the Go AMC. Oh wow! Are you a Stubbs member today? Fucking don't you love product? And I do love product, it turns out, as long as product is dinos. Big dinos on screen, roar real loud.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. I just I've been on the outs of movies for a sec, dude. Yeah, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00That makes sense.
SPEAKER_03Unless I'll do it for there weren't enough gay dinosaurs in Jurassic Park for me. I'll I'll go if there's something gay out, I'll make sure to drive to the movie theater. Dinosaurs. Question number three. What's who do you think is the gayest dinosaur?
SPEAKER_00Who do I think the gayest dinosaur is? I think anything with feathers.
SPEAKER_03Wow!
SPEAKER_00Anything with feathers is pretty gay.
SPEAKER_03That I do think that also.
SPEAKER_00U Tyrannus is a gay dinosaur.
SPEAKER_03That's I think that's what Jason might have said, or something like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's the fluffy T-Rex.
SPEAKER_03The fluffy T-Rex!
SPEAKER_00Uh, that's pretty gay. Uh the other one that's I think super uh um super kinda gay is I think um uh what's the one? It's it's a big guy. Is it it's it's diplodacus.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I love Diplodocus!
SPEAKER_00It's very gay. It's a gay name.
SPEAKER_03It's a gay name. It's the gayest name.
SPEAKER_00It's a gay name. Anything with diplo, it's like you're gay. Diplocalis, I know you're a salamander, you're a gay salamander.
SPEAKER_03Gay salamander! That's fun. Um, and then uh last week, I I usually have like a little bit of a little thing, but it doesn't matter today.
SPEAKER_00Um we lost that functionality.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we know, but that's okay, because I literally only did it for one episode. I just like saying we always or we usually, and it's not ever true. Um but I always ask, um, one time I asked, who what dinosaur do you think is like the biggest pussy? Like which one? Like who do you think?
SPEAKER_00Biggest pussy?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think like that I could take in a fight. Like a dinosaur, I think I could take a gigantoraptor in a fight.
SPEAKER_02Shut up! You're not gonna take a raptor in a fight.
SPEAKER_00It's not, no, it's an omnivore. It's not like a hunting raptor.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00Like eats fruits and berries.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's so cute. I could beat up that raptor. A lot of I think that's the right move is to go after an herbivore, because they don't even know how to fight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they like, well, some of them do, but like I think it's like the omnivores. Like, the ones that aren't good enough to be uh like an herbivore eaten up in the trees, and also aren't good enough to be killing the herbivores.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Like you're just a weak little baby.
SPEAKER_03You're just a little bitch.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Like, uh uh Overraptor. I could I hate Ovaraptor. It's the biggest pussy. It's so tiny. And then in there's a game called Ark Survival Evolved.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, tell us.
SPEAKER_00And this is not a dinosaur, but there is a guy in it named Carbonymus. It is a turtle. It's like an ancient turtle, and every time I see it, I throw spears at its face until it dies. I gang stalk those turtles, I kill everyone I see. I hate those turtles, they suck. They'll never beat me in a fight. They're never good enough.
SPEAKER_03Wait, I gotta get this game. You were the it's that's a character in the game is a game.
SPEAKER_00And it's a turtle. It's a gi it's an ancient turtle. What? And you can hit it with rocks until it dies.
SPEAKER_03There was this game that I used to play, it was very hard, so I wasn't very good at it, but you played as like a like uh like a oh fucking monkey, like a early species of a monkey, and you had to like develop like sound and like and like fucking fear in the game. Like you would be like walking around and you would see a tiger and it would be like, do you wanna hide or do you wanna fight? And then you were like, I don't know. Like it was, oh man, I wish I could explain. But then like the it would tell you when the ground was shifting so you could like hear that animals were coming, but you didn't start off the game with that skill real good. Like you had to like develop it. It was so crazy, it was so hard, but you were like being you were like becoming sentient in the game. It was like fucking crazy.
SPEAKER_00It's just the evolution of mind. I think you're gonna as a video game. Yeah, that's really interesting. Do you get cooking? Is that a thing? That's kind of the turning point.
SPEAKER_03Dude, can I tell you? I you have to like find your son. There's like a little monkey that you have to save, and then after you save him, you have to fight off a giant cat, and I never could beat the cat. I think one time I did and then died immediately, but like you're always hungry, you always need water, you're always tired, and there and there's so much going on where you're like, is that a berry? And if you eat it and it's poisonous, you die. Like it is such a hard game. Game, if you're listening, fuck you.
SPEAKER_00Um this is the this is the pathologic style of gameplay. Yeah, it was a game called pathologic, uh, which is about how hard it is to be alive. Pretty much. It's just about suffering. It's a game about suffering. It's like so that sounds like that. It's like a game about how life is hard and you will you will die.
SPEAKER_03You will die. Life is hard and you will die, folks.
SPEAKER_00It's true. It doesn't mean it's not worth it's not worth getting hard.
SPEAKER_03Ha ha, stay hard. Get hard, stay hard.
SPEAKER_00Get rock hard.
SPEAKER_03Get rock hard. Um, that was so cool that you had to answer a little bit whenever people say that they can fight a dinosaur, I don't believe them, but you seem very knowledgeable. I think I could take out Steve said a steel cage match uh with a grounded tri um or uh what do they call it? Pterodactyl. That's fucking crazy. They're like six feet tall. Yeah, but so is Steve!
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, they're just nobody gets them in a headline. Pteran a pterodactyl is so big. It's so much bigger than you think.
SPEAKER_03Maybe a baby one then, dude. That's then okay.
SPEAKER_00I'm thinking a baby T-Rex. That's fucking you can say, oh, I can find a T-Rex, because I can find a baby T-Rex. Like, no. Wait, that's fair. I assume that like I can use my environment. Yeah. I can make get a stick and stab it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00If you throw me in the wild and then there's a gigantoraptor, I think I could I could fashion a weapon.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's awesome. No, I like that.
SPEAKER_00I feel like if you're doing a human versus animals in in like some sort of fight scenario, like modern human, you have to give them an environment in which they can make something to kill that animal. Yeah. Because that's what humans do. Yeah. That's why we're the number one predator on the planet. It's because we build things that allow us to defeat anything else.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Number one, baby. Number one, you do a lot of anti-human sentiment where you're like, humans shouldn't be top of the food chain. I actually, I'm a total human supremacist. It's kinda, it seems suspicious.
SPEAKER_03I hate us at the top. I hate it here.
SPEAKER_00I think I think we're making a lot of mistakes, but like, I think we have it. I think we got the right head about us to fix what mistakes we make.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but you're an optimist. I'm a pessimist. I think we stole this spot from the megafauna, we murdered, and this.
SPEAKER_00They sucked. Every single one of them was dumb, and they were gonna die in the fucking warming of the ICT.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but they weren't, they weren't, they're not gonna make AI, man. They're supposed to be this smart. We're not. They might have. They might, they might have. And there's gonna be that's the second episode of Our Twilight Zone. The dinosaurs be are become the humans, and then they're in their little office jobs type of ideas.
SPEAKER_00Could you imagine a sexy lady lizard?
SPEAKER_03The street walkers all very sexy lizard ladies. There's gotta be lady.
SPEAKER_00There's gotta be a dinosaur velociraptor sitting on the corner smoking a cigarette, talking about how much it hates capitalism. It's fucking awesome. It's so funny. Uh uh dinosaur marble lights rocks. Oh my god. I love that thought.
SPEAKER_03Joe, is there an ancient camel that Joe Camel would be? Or like uh like a transport that Joe Camel is?
SPEAKER_00Parasaur. That's what I'm saying. Like Parasaur Lights. That would rock.
SPEAKER_03That's so funny.
SPEAKER_00Joe Parasaur. I feel like Parasaur is pretty close to a camel. If you play the game, Ark Survival of Alves is pretty close to camel.
SPEAKER_03I'll play it. I'll literally play it.
SPEAKER_00You could ride a parasaur, just you just ride it around. It goes kind of slow. You get to ride the dinosaurs? Yeah. You get to ride the dinosaurs and fight with the dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03That's what so I might.
SPEAKER_00You get to fight dinosaurs with dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03I'm not in my dinosaur game. I'm only on the first one. The third one they say gets more dinosaur interactive, because I guess that's what people want. Not me, but I've heard tell. That's what and so in the in the next one you can like go in their enclosures and like fuck with them like in a real way.
SPEAKER_00But I that's not throw popcorn at the dinosaur.
SPEAKER_03No, yeah, that's what I'm saying, dude.
SPEAKER_00That's the cool thing about genetically modifying and creating dinosaurs, is that you don't have to treat them the way you treat regular ants. Just abuse them. Because they're not supposed to be here anyway.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I make the really strong ones like weak and meek, and then I'll like overpower a like a small, like aggressive um carnivore, and then I'll and then I like watching him win the fights. I'm like, ha ha yeah. But it's like I had to genetically modify to make this one weak and harmless. Just so he could win.
SPEAKER_00So horrifically.
SPEAKER_03It's fun. Yeah, it's a fun game.
SPEAKER_00Just absolutely you literally did not stop to think whether or not you could you do it and didn't think if you're not.
SPEAKER_03They reward it, the game very early rewards you for like having carnivores eat each other, and then you're like, okay, fine, two T-Rexes, two Adonymous Rexes, make them both real mean, and then they'll just fight for hours, and people are just throwing money at you.
SPEAKER_00Fighting pits but dinosaurs is literally You're dogfighting, like you're you're the Michael Vick of Jurassic World War I.
SPEAKER_03I get real sick with it. I used to make the poke when I played Pokemon, I would make them work 24 hours a day. I rarely played with them. It it was in um I think it's in Shield, Sword and Shield, you can like put them to work to get like XP bonuses. I they were never not in the mines for me, dude. I was like, I was there's two, there's two nests, so I had two dittos and I was just breeding them and I was working them, dude. I never played the game.
SPEAKER_00No wonder you're a pessimist.
SPEAKER_03You're fucking I have like two gym badges, but I got a whole factory of Pokemon just working, dude.
SPEAKER_00I I'm I I feel like I would if if I was in the Pokemon world, I'd be a trainer because I would love to raise the Pokemon.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I would I would catch a Pokemon, I'd buy a Pokeball for like $2, because they're like $2. Yeah. I would just buy a Pokeball and just throw it at random Pokemon and then just start battling immediately. I would I would level entire fields of Pidgeys.
SPEAKER_03And then what?
SPEAKER_00Then I would go take on the gym leader.
SPEAKER_03Okay, hell yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I think if I was in Pokemon I could do it.
SPEAKER_03You'd be like a professional.
SPEAKER_00I think I'd have the sauce to do it.
SPEAKER_03And then in some of them you can make them big, like like almost like uh Digimon is what they remind me of. I can't remember what it's like.
SPEAKER_00Oh, the uh Dynamax?
SPEAKER_03Dynamax, yeah!
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that only exists in the Galar region. We wouldn't we wouldn't be there. We'd be in whatever Michigan. We would be in the Pokemon world. Which is curious. What would Michigan be like in the Pokemon world? I want them to do a great likes Pokemon region. They never will. This is my plan. I'm gonna tell you my plan. I'm gonna get famous.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna get super famous and make a million dollars.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna get, I'm gonna be as a writer, as a director, I'm gonna weasel my way into making a live-action Pokemon movie somehow. And then, during the premiere, during the thing, I'm gonna invite someone from Pokemon to Michigan and invite them to like the UP and like say, like, hey, would you like to visit America and show them off Michigan? Because this is a fun fact. The way that the Unova region, which is based on Unor, New York was created, was that some CEO from uh higher up from um Pokemon, the Pokemon company from Game Freak came to New York and was like, I want to make this into Pokemon. Whoa! They visited New York City and they like they went upstate and they were like, this is an amazing region. The next one's gonna not be based on Japan, it's gonna be based on New York.
SPEAKER_03They're all based on Japan before that?
SPEAKER_00They were, yeah, yeah. Uh up to that they were all based on some part of Japan.
SPEAKER_03No sh I never knew that. I'm like not a Pokemon.
SPEAKER_00Kanto is just a a region in Japan.
SPEAKER_03Wow! That's funny.
SPEAKER_00That that's like that would be one.
SPEAKER_03They should mod that. You what? Yeah, you can't.
SPEAKER_00I don't want to mod it, I wanna but I wanna I want to have the influence to make the Pokemon company do this. I want to get I'm gonna get a million I'm gonna be rich and famous and get a million dollars.
SPEAKER_03That's it.
SPEAKER_00And then what I'm gonna do is weasel my way into. That's my plan.
SPEAKER_03That's my million dollar plan is I want to make an app that uses real-time GPS and it tells you what the cops look like in your area.
SPEAKER_00So Waze doesn't that would be like good to integrate with Waze, sadly, they're owned by Google.
SPEAKER_03I know, that's why that's why I need to be a millionaire to do it, because I think I would have to create my own GPS, and then it would have to be like trusted, and then it would have to be like uh, like people couldn't know going into it that it was gonna be the cop app because then people would like to report it.
SPEAKER_00Report it. Yeah, you would go to jail.
SPEAKER_03But it would be it's just gonna be a sick ass GPS system that people are gonna be like, I don't know, I like that it's not owned by Google or Apple. And then one day they turn it on and they go, Do you want to turn on cop watch?
SPEAKER_00And it just and it'll show you their face because every cop has a phone.
SPEAKER_03If it shows you their face, or I really just want to know what the hidden vehicles look like, but then also like the vehicles in that area, like Birmingham is different than Royal Oak, like they all have different color vehicles, yeah, and I hate that.
SPEAKER_00And I just want to know some of them they have a black car with dark gray like Bartington. It's like deceptive, like it shouldn't be allowed to show.
SPEAKER_03There's no way because you're supposed to be able to see the cops in case there's an emergency. They're not supposed to be hiding and waiting for you to do crime.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, which further exemplifies the point that the police are not there for the community or for safety. They are only there to protect the interests of capital and to subjugate the lower classes.
SPEAKER_03Kids, if you're watching.
SPEAKER_00And further, it's evidence that that's what they're like. At least certainly in America. I don't know about other countries. Maybe they're nice and delightful.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I bet they're s I bet your cops are so nice, Newfoundland.
SPEAKER_00Canada cops?
SPEAKER_03I forgot that. Maritimer cops? Absolutely not. They're the meanests.
SPEAKER_00They gotta be so mean. They're like so racist. Like they're they're they are like, they get pretty white supremacists up there in Newfoundland.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I've I have heard that when I was in when I was in Canada recently, they were like, we got our own little thing going on. You're like, oh no.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's like Manitoba and like Saskatchewan, and then also like Newfoundland in that area. And then Ontario and Quebec are like, okay, but Quebec is like like French supremacists, but they're like, You can be black as long as you're French.
SPEAKER_03Like I sort of like that attitude. I don't know. Um, wait, and then so question number three or four, whatever question we're on, who cares? Um, this is like this is supposed to be funny because usually we talk about dinosaurs the whole time, and then this is like a twist in the middle.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, but we have been all over the place, and that's really cool, also. But so the third question of the what's your favorite dinosaur podcast in the spirit of all things dinosaur, the question is why do you think that we're all here?
SPEAKER_00Well, I think that we're all here because uh three point four billion years.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um there were a there was deep in the ocean near some hydrothermal vents uh a collection of uh soupy chemicals that connected themselves and created the first uh strands of amino acids uh uh protein strands and eventually uh uh RNA strands that then collected and congealed and coalesced together, forming patterns that created cellular life, which for about two billion years funked around, uh diverged into things that could absorb light, into things that that could breathe the uh uh oxygen that those light absorbing bacteria produced as a result of creating sugars, and then slowly you get down, and then there's uh these these little cells start grouping together and expanding and and connecting and forming larger life. And then all the way down uh they form um life that is capable of just barely squeaking onto land, which which ekes out onto land, and then boom, a bunch of stuff dies. Then that all happens again, and it changes more and gets more advanced. They go from um laying eggs in the form of uh a gel in the water to being able to lay eggs on it on land, and then boom, there's another extinction event. And then they they these beautiful creatures called the uh dinosaurs roam the earth for 200 million years around, and and then boom, a meteor made primarily of iridium strikes the planet, leaves a thick layer of ash, kills everything except for around uh uh 13 to 20% of life, I believe. And um and then what you have are these little fuzzy creatures, these little fuzzy guys who are being oppressed by these dinosaurs, by these, by these tyrant lizards, uh uh are now allowed to fill the niches that dinosaurs previously occupied, uh, and eventually you get a fully undiscovered niche, that being uh civilization and intelligence, which grows into who we are today.
SPEAKER_03That's a clip, dude. That's what it all did. Awesome. That's exactly it.
SPEAKER_00That's why we're here.
SPEAKER_03That's cool. That's that was such a good, and then I'm thinking because we're doing audio only, I'm gonna have like the captions be like colored.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you could just do little doodles. Yeah, little doodle. You can do a little doodle.
SPEAKER_03Ah, love it. Um that was a good answer. Um, so you don't think life has meaning?
SPEAKER_00Oh, I think that life has every meaning you could possibly want to. Yeah, I think that I think that um I don't even know if meaning is a meaningful concept.
SPEAKER_03Oh good answer.
SPEAKER_00Other than, I guess, yeah, meaning is is an uh assigned state of um uh I don't know, I I believe that life has potential and that uh potentialities are fulfilled uh when opportunity is presented, and that is kind of kind of what meaning is. Like that's couple that's close to what meaning is, but that's something that does actually happen. Like that like like uh uh there are states that can happen but don't happen, and slowly they will end up happening if the opportunity and the conditions are right for that to happen. Uh and you can call that, if you want, meaning. I feel like that that growing and and and continuing and expanding and ever-changing this is the meaning of life, as it were. Maybe that's maybe that's as it were.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm with you. I'm with you. I also don't think life has meaning.
SPEAKER_00That's not what I said. That's not what I said. I don't think that the I I don't think that the question does life have meaning is a very useful uh application of time.
SPEAKER_03I think it's people to people whose life has meaning, when you ask does your life has meaning, they they have you know what I mean? Yeah. Like that to me is the essence of meaning is that value that one puts on it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And if and when they go, well, I have a goal or I have an idea or I have an impression of what I'm supposed to think I'm gonna do at this time, then that I think that is like meaning. But I'm with you in that it's a funny thing.
SPEAKER_00But then you have this horrible thing where you where you you accomplish the thing and now what's your meaning? That happens a lot.
SPEAKER_03No, that's why.
SPEAKER_00When you're done, you can't do that thing anymore. You you fail because age uh makes you decrepit, or you you lose that ability, or you simply don't have the time to do that thing anymore. Now what's your meaning? Well that's an ever changing thing, and it's just whatever you have the ability to do is your meaning.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's like, yeah, it's it's it's m like the the meaning of life is just to do.
SPEAKER_03But that's why that's like why real that's why religious folk choose like making God happy as their goal. It's like, well, because yeah, you can always don't never die to meet God.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna say it's fucking crazy to to believe that your goal is to make God happy and then to say masturbation makes God unhappy. I made a religion. I would say masturbation makes God happy. Drink off drink jerk off, drink booze, but kiss whoever you want. Kiss three people a day.
SPEAKER_03At the same time, at least one.
SPEAKER_00Well, you can't, I don't know if you You can do two at once. I don't know if you can do it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. A fucking kiss.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. It's like a nitrogen out of trying to form four bottles. It can happen, but it's like kind of an awkward configuration.
SPEAKER_03Um, that's awesome. That's cool.
SPEAKER_00It's probably the most pretentious thing I've ever said, but whenever someone asks me, does life have meaning or what is the meaning of life, or why are we all here? I just kind of go, What? I don't know, I'm gonna make stuff up for five minutes.
SPEAKER_03That makes sense that makes sense. I think an artist's life, I think if you if you have like a meaning. But that's I do the opposite. I I just have a wildly unrealistic goal.
SPEAKER_00And then To be a successful state-up comedian, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, because then I can just work at it forever, and when I plateau, I can be like, oh well, I book and made it, like all these things.
SPEAKER_00I want to be a successful filmmaker and a successful chemical engineer. So I I don't want to like do one of those things at the side. I want to do both of those things very well, and that's an even more really Yeah. So don't worry. That's good company here. I that's yeah. Being a stand-up comedian is particularly brutal, especially being a successful stand-up comedian.
SPEAKER_03I'm trying to be a successful stand-up comedian and not lose myself along the way. I guess that's yeah, that's my chemical science of it. It's not a good idea.
SPEAKER_00How do you get that? Um How do you not lose yourself along the way? Because first of all, if you do anything, if you if you exist for long enough, you are going to not be yourself anymore in some regards. Yeah. So how do you not lose yourself?
SPEAKER_03Well the essence in the music the moment.
SPEAKER_00The essence, you better not let it go.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Ha ha ha! The essence of Nicole is though, um, and so that is the to self-form being true, is being open to the idea of growing. So if it's a new me, I'm okay with that, and it's still it's still me, as long as she doesn't take the easy way or work with people who are bad, or you know, do stuff for the sake of doing it rather than for the love of it.
SPEAKER_00And I'll add to that, maybe it's good to potentially work with people who are bad if you can make them good.
SPEAKER_03Um, I'm not really in that fight.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Ha ha. Yeah, yeah. I'm not, you know what I mean? I'm more in the I'm I I hate to say that it's cancel culture, but I do if a movie comes out and the guy's bad, I think we should all just not see it. I don't, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Well there's that's that's the potentially a way to put something.
SPEAKER_03Rather than seeing it and going, oh, well, it's still art. It's still, oh, it's you know what I mean? Sometimes when people are bad, they go, oh, but the movie was so good.
SPEAKER_00Well, let's do that with Chris Pratt. And they're never good. Um they're just product. They're they're a paste in a tube that you can lick if you want a little bit of a chemical happy sensation.
SPEAKER_03That's so funny.
SPEAKER_00He makes he makes sour like warheads.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's what he makes. That's his sorry. He's not a you're not a chef, right?
SPEAKER_03You're warheads.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're your uh your sour punch straws, dog. That's what your culinary affection is. Like you can, you can watch Mario 2, which I'm probably gonna do. And sometimes I'll just I'll just eat a little bit of a spoonful of sugar. And that's the same thing.
SPEAKER_03The exact same experience.
SPEAKER_00Same thing. There's no there's no nothing else happening there. It's the it's it's a it's a theme park ride. To connect to the last episode where you were talking about how the raptor is. YOO!
SPEAKER_01Roller coaster!
SPEAKER_00I had a fun tidbit about raptor. Yeah. The origin of the word raptor.
SPEAKER_03Yo, tell me!
SPEAKER_00It's so raptor, like uh originally comes from the Latin rapier. Sword? Uh no. Uh it's R-A-P-E-R-E, and it means to take or to uh steal or to remove. Oh. So like the other R word. Yeah, so uh that went to both of them. Whoa! So it's the same origin.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so you could call them like a Velocirapist if you're not a Velocirapist! Yeah, so you can that's that's the same, that's the same thing.
SPEAKER_03That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_00It's very unfortunate. But that's how language works, right?
SPEAKER_03That is, yeah. I follow this guy on the um, this is the last tangent, and then we're gonna do the final question.
SPEAKER_00Um We are at 57 minutes. Nice! Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I follow this guy on the Facebook videos because I'm trying I'm really trying to be less on Instagram.
SPEAKER_00Actually, I think Facebook videos is so much worse. You should just be on Instagram.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but they have they have unsightly ads that will make me stop using the the platform. Like they're at um no, Facebook. Facebook has these like very they don't even end the video yet, they just start the ad.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I go, I'm never using this again today. And it's enough, but he takes the word and then throughout history he pronounces it until we get it. I know that guy now. Oh, I love that.
SPEAKER_00That guy's also uh leftist. Fun fact. That guy's awesome. That guy actually rocks. I know the guy. That guy rocks! He's uh he's he's uh anti-Zionist, he's anti-colonialism, he's a great guy. Uh that's awesome. You linguistics is like a very you kinda go either way with it, where you're like the worst white supremacist you've ever met, and also bad at linguistics. Or you're like super far left, very descriptivist and incredibly insightful into how language and and culture evolves and changes and how we can connect as a species uh across all these subtle differences that might seem vast if you don't know better.
SPEAKER_01If you don't know better. That's awesome. Alright, then our final question for the episode What's your favorite dinosaur with Michelle Hart? Michelle Hart, what is your favorite dinosaur?
SPEAKER_00My favorite dinosaur is probably a megalodon.
SPEAKER_02Shut the fuck up! That's so funny.
SPEAKER_00No, my favorite dinosaur. Oh, I'm gonna give a shitty asshole answer. My favorite dinosaur. He's up. African gray parrot.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that's that's fine.
SPEAKER_00Birds are dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So my favorite dinosaur is African gray parrot. I really like birds. I'm good with that answer.
SPEAKER_00That's a good answer.
SPEAKER_03You thought you were gonna fucking trigger me?
SPEAKER_00No, I I I'm gonna trigger someone.
SPEAKER_02Nadine, calm down.
SPEAKER_00Um eat shit.
SPEAKER_02And my mom watches.
SPEAKER_00Um, you you single? I'm not single. I'm only single for moms.
SPEAKER_03Is it single for moms?
SPEAKER_00Hashtag single for moms.
SPEAKER_03Wait, so you like birds? I love you love all animals.
SPEAKER_00I love all animals.
SPEAKER_03Okay, but the African gay parents.
SPEAKER_02The African parrot? African gay parents.
SPEAKER_03That's so good! You're so good at improv, dude. What the fuck? Thank you. You had a couple of jabs in there, dude. And you don't comics will do this thing where they celebrate right before a good riff because they know it's coming. Improvers don't do that. They're working. Yeah, it's so, it's so interesting.
SPEAKER_00Um I'm I'm honestly more a stand-up than an improv, I thought, but apparently not. Apparently I got this, I got the improv in my bones.
SPEAKER_03It's in your bones, dude. It's um. Yeah, okay, so the African gray parrot, cool. Cool. No, um, he would get eaten by my fucking T-Rex any day, dude.
SPEAKER_00Probably. Is T-Rex your favorite?
SPEAKER_03No, it's the Carteronodontosaurus, but it's that's not how you pronounce that.
SPEAKER_00It's Carcarodontosaurus.
SPEAKER_03Well, I mean, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Which by the way, Carcarodon Carcarius is a great white shark. Because he basically just said Megalodon Dinosaurus.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm tell- I've got, uh listen, do you want me to Google it?
SPEAKER_00He's a Carcarodonosaurus, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that he's not a shark.
SPEAKER_00No, it's its name is Shark Tooth Dinosaur.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, I'm okay with that. Um he's got spikes, he's bigger than T-Rex. That's like why I like him.
SPEAKER_00He's like, Is he he's taller than T-Rex, he's not bigger.
SPEAKER_03He's whatever. I don't know. You know what I mean? In the game, I can't see how.
SPEAKER_00I like a thick, thick gal, and T-Rex is a thick of the most massive land predator, I think.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's why he's the best. That's like that's like an iconic dinosaur image. You can't really, I think deviating from that.
SPEAKER_00To me, T-Rex will always be a woman.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, always.
SPEAKER_00Because of because of Jurassic Park, honestly.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_00That's a lady. The the T-Rex that comes in and saves them from the Lelociraptors, that's that is a woman doing her job.
SPEAKER_03It's a lady! Oh, that's so cute. Whenever I think of lady dinosaurs, I always think of dragon from Shrek, though. That's kind of where I go. Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00It's a good one. I think parasaurs are lady dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03I think they're all right.
SPEAKER_00I feel like you could put eyelashes on a parasolifus and it would be like Kanti, and it would follow Monkey.
SPEAKER_03I think any of the dinosaurs could be Kanti and the other. What's the transist dinosaur there is? That's what I feel like Jason has one. It's like uh it was a dinosaur that we had classified as something and then we reclassified it. But then there's like there's something about the it. But also, I yeah, I think they're all well, all the dinosaurs are trans in Jurassic Park.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um they go, they swap swap seeds.
SPEAKER_03But I wonder if you can change gender in my video game. Not that. Me when I'm eight years old playing a game. Can I make this dinosaur trans?
SPEAKER_00Me discovering the gender change potion in Fable 2.
SPEAKER_03Yo, that's changing my brain chemistry forever. That's so good. That's almost a sketch. All the times that video games let you be like, be trans. Yeah, they let you spot genders.
SPEAKER_00I believe in Fable 2 you could, if you took it, it would change the first spouse's sex as well.
SPEAKER_02Whoa!
SPEAKER_00And then they could discover it.
SPEAKER_02Whoa.
SPEAKER_00That you did that to them, and then they would leave you.
SPEAKER_03They would leave you?
SPEAKER_00Well, you forcibly trans them. You trans them too.
SPEAKER_03I th that you guys love each other, it's not a trap.
SPEAKER_00Unfortunate choice of words. Uh but yeah, I don't know. That is funny to be like, like, you, you, you're, you're a man and you show up to your wife one day and you say, I'm a woman now. And you gotta be a guy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think that's yeah. I think that's fine.
SPEAKER_00That's awesome.
SPEAKER_03That's legal.
SPEAKER_00That's not it's not actually legal to force someone to trans their gender. Oh, we're not in Joe Biden's anyway. We're in anywhere. You can't force trans people anymore.
SPEAKER_03Nobody's trans and anybody to be forced.
SPEAKER_00Not allowed to ban. Unless you're Jeffrey Epstein.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00He did that. Okay. Uh is that the end of the is that the end of the game.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's the last question. I really want to have a more uh climatic question, but that is what what it is a pretty good question.
SPEAKER_00We did go off the rails for a second there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Again.
SPEAKER_03That's why I saved until the end. I feel like I have the first half is goofing off, then we get to the meaning of life, and then the second half we just have to wrap up that we talked about dinosaurs at some point.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it has to acknowledge that dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It must it we must know that dinosaurs.
SPEAKER_03Nobody's really watching this for the dinosaurs. Maybe this episode, because you busted out a lot of the dinosaurs, and I'm gonna have fun editing pictures of the dinosaurs that you bring up. I only know the ones in the video game, and I don't even have the pack that unlocks all the dinosaurs, so there's a whole world of dinosaurs that I haven't even discovered yet.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. That's one of the things. Ark has a lot of dinosaurs, but it it is also a game where it's just prehistoric species. Yeah. So it has like uh a four million-year-old extinct kangaroo. It has like, you know, like a um Cambrian era um and um uh uh Devonian era stuff.
SPEAKER_03Nice And I like the Devonian era.
SPEAKER_00I like the Devontae.
SPEAKER_03What the fuck is the name of the video game and it's like first person Far Cry? Did you ever play Far Cry Primal? That one you're like a pr you're like a little like early Homo sapien and there's like other foxes are bigger than regular fox because they're because of old fox?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I know I never got into that. I never got into that one. Because it was probably on Xbox One or something, and I was like, I'm not gonna buy a Far Cry game for my Xbox One. That's silly. But yeah.
SPEAKER_03Wait, what the fuck do you have against Far Cry?
SPEAKER_00I just know I didn't want to.
SPEAKER_03Guys, thanks for watching the episode.
SPEAKER_00Okay, we're done. Okay, done.
unknownWe're done!
SPEAKER_00What do you got against Far Cry? An actual fight broke out.
SPEAKER_03We beat each other up.
SPEAKER_00What we should do is we cut it there, and then we we just come back and and you say, uh, sorry I had to I had to do a cut there, I killed Michelle.
SPEAKER_03Oh yo, that's for not liking Far Cry.
SPEAKER_00And then and then it just ends.
SPEAKER_03I'm in. So I'm in. Oh, sorry, I was killing Michelle for not liking Far Cry.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Okay, cut it. And we did it.
SPEAKER_03We did it!