Worship Month Best Moments | Eric Rojas | Noah Harrison | Sarah Gold | Mackenzie Maisel

🎉 Worship Month Best Moments | Worship That Changes Everything 🙌 |

What happens when worship becomes more than music?

In this special Worship Month Best Moments episode, we're revisiting some of our favorite conversations from an unforgettable month of stories, wisdom, creativity, and encounters with God.

Join host Lucky as we highlight powerful moments from four incredible guests who each reveal a unique expression of worship:

🎵 Eric Rojas – Songwriter & Entrepreneur 
Discover how God transforms our hardest seasons into songs of hope and why authentic worship often begins in the secret place.

🎙️ Noah Harrison – Worship Leader & Songwriter
Learn how creating a culture of worship impacts your family, leadership, and everyday life—and why worship is a lifestyle before it's a platform.

💃 Sarah Gold – Worship Dancer
Experience the joy of worship through movement as Sarah shares biblical stories, personal testimonies, and how dance becomes a powerful expression of praise.

🎨 Mackenzie Maisel – Prophetic Painter
Explore how God speaks through creativity and discover what it looks like to worship with a paintbrush, partnering with the Holy Spirit to create what heaven is saying.

Whether you're a worship leader, artist, creative, or simply hungry to grow deeper with Jesus, this episode is full of encouragement, practical wisdom, and reminders that worship can be expressed through every gift God has given us.

✨ In this episode you'll discover:
• How worship shapes everyday life
• Why creativity reflects the heart of God
• The power of songwriting, dance, and prophetic art
• Inspiring testimonies of God's faithfulness
• Practical encouragement to worship with your whole life

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👇 We'd love to hear from you:
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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:07

You pay it professionally. Take us through the journey. What would you say to someone who's going through the same process right now? I've never been a part of anything in the movie. Oh, hi there. Welcome back to the Everything Kingdom podcast. We are so excited that you're with us today. We are just going to do a recap of all God has done this month. We had a worship month that is full of wonders, uh, exciting stuff, fun, uh, educational, inspirational stuff. We came from all the way to like songwriters, worship leaders, and worship dance and prophetic painting, all of the above. So we just had an amazing guest like Eric Rogers, special guest like Noah Harrison, and we had to have uh Sarah Gold, and we did have Mackenzie Mazo. We look forward to doing this recap so we can get all the highlights of what happened amongst us or in between those couple episodes. So you enjoy it. It just fascinates me how God will find you at your weakest point, and he just doesn't just take you out of the red to green, but actually he creates something out of that process through you. Like you are able to paint this down as a love letter to God when you're going through the toughest of times. But the way he honored your humility is by bringing something beautiful out of it with the nature or with the thinking that he turns ashes into beauty.

SPEAKER_06 1:49

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

That's how beautiful God is. And I don't know so many men. This I'm gonna be very vulnerable and honest. I don't know so many men that go through rough times like that and they choose to write about him or to pen it down or be be as vulnerable to the Lord as you did. That for me, you have my utmost respect. You know, one of the things you said when you're opening up the uh the episode is you are a fighter, you were a fighter, but also you're very tender before the Lord. David was a man of war according to God's design. Right. But I was sure he was very vulnerable before the presence of God and very honest and very humble and very sensitive to the presence of God. So that for me, it's just like a connection right there that men, uh especially men, I'm speaking to men personally because I know this for me, that sometimes it's not easy for us to let our emotions out. Yet God wants everything about us, not just some parts of us. So I love it very much. And taking you through the the behind the scenes or behind the story or the story behind the album, asking these questions about like this meant so much to you as it does even right now. What would you say to someone who's going through the same process right now?

SPEAKER_06 3:05

It it it's really just being able to express your emotions and feelings. And it's okay if it comes out angry at first. It's okay if it comes out with questions. I think you how can you have faith that that continues to grow if you don't question it in in a healthy manner? Because then you're just blindly going to something. So the idea of questioning and the idea of I've asked God someone says, why? Why is this happening? What's going on? Like, I do all this for you, I do this and this, and why is this so hard? Why can't it be like this? Like, why are these are questions I I still ask God? It's not like I solved that. Like, and I think it's okay. And I think a lot of men, particularly, don't know how to actually ask that question because we're supposed to be all right all the time. We're supposed to have it all good. God is good all the time, all the time, God is good. I'm good, brother. Like, that's just a that's a blanketed statement.

SPEAKER_05 3:56

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 3:56

The question is, are you really good? Are you really good?

SPEAKER_05 3:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 3:59

And if you're not good, where are you going to release that? And um, and I think it's important to be able to express that. Some people could express it through art and painting. Some people express it through um dance. Um, I, you know, a lot part of my job is I write a lot. So I express it through writing. And I was like, I'm just gonna write it out. I'm just gonna write out my feelings and my emotions, and I'm just gonna let it out. And and it wasn't meant for anyone to see it. It was just from it was a very intimate moment with me and my Heavenly Father um of challenges and questions and and and my notes and just expressing myself.

SPEAKER_03 4:36

When did it move from being a personal layer between you and God to actually for the uh consumers or for other people too? When did it come to that? How did it come to that? That's a really good question.

SPEAKER_06 4:50

Um I think the first second first a second song when I was writing and and then uh you know, I brought I brought Albi in what with is helping me with this and at first it was like, oh, it's just gonna be for our families. And then it then it just turned into I just I got so inspired um to continue to to to spill it out and just write more and write more that it just I think it became more of like I think after the five I don't know, this has been like a three-year process. Wow. It's really hard to pinpoint it. I could tell you that for the first year and a half it wasn't that. The first year and a half was just me writing, building, pr producing it, and trying it out and doing this, and then and then before you know it, I'm like, you know what, God, you gave me a spirit of excellence in in in marketing and advertising and and to be able to put things together. So I'm like, why would I not do that with this album? And I think that's when I realized that I'm like, wait, you know what? Like, I'm gonna like continue to move this forward with excellence, and I'm gonna get it's my it's my alabaster jar for for for for for our father. You know, you think about Mary breaking it uh the alabaster jar and and for Jesus, right? And washing him. And um it's like, you know, anything that is that is extravagant costs something. Do you know what I mean? So like I look at this as being like, this is extravagant. People are like, well, why would you write an album and produce it just for your family? It's just extravagant love. It's it's the love that I wanted to express of the to my father, my heavenly father. And it costs me time and money and just and and and struggles and and a lot of ups and downs of it, but it was just my expression of worship to him. And then after a while, I'm like, well, you know what? I'm gonna release it and I'm gonna break the jar. And and I don't care what people think. I don't really care if, like, you know, I think even the disciples are like, well, that's expensive.

SPEAKER_05 6:43

Hmm.

SPEAKER_06 6:43

Why would you spend that? It's like a year worth of saving we can give that to the poor. And Jesus is like, You're not, you know, the poor with you all the time. Like, you have the poor with you all the time, you won't have me with you all the time. It's like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what other people think. It's it's really what my expression to my heavenly father and what he and and it's my outpouring of love to him. Regardless of that, that's everyone else is blessed, that's amazing. But it's more like, here's my love offering.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

But also I cannot forget this. This is the best worship set that I've ever been a part of. We were in Reading, it was July 31st, 2022. And you, and I remember I think it was Christine DiMarco, you were leading worship uh at the 10:30 in the morning. The service is the most packed one, it's like you know, it's the main service, I would say, in Reading. And we're expecting like this, we don't want this to end. And we saw, I think Tom Crandall came to close worship, and we found ourselves like going back into worship, and we sang this song uh uh The Holiness of the Lord about Isaiah 6. I saw the Lord. Yep. I don't know, maybe that's why it's been on my heart all day. And I saw we sang the song for over 35 minutes. One song. There was no preaching, there was no collecting of tithe and offering, there was nothing. We just sang worship for two hours straight.

SPEAKER_05 8:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:06

I'd never been a part of anything that looked like that. I remember sobbing on the floor, worshiping. I didn't know what I stopped worshiping to just like you just shaking and vibrating and like don't know what you're doing, but just want something to end. It was amazing. So that was my introduction to you.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Yeah. Wow. Dude, actually, it's funny that you bring that set up because I do I remember I think that might have been maybe it was Christine's last set before she moved. I can't remember. But I remember that that day it was like it was actually very pivotal because um and maybe this kind of goes online with everything we're talking about, but uh yeah, I remember we were we were doing the set and we got to it was I saw the Lord. I saw the Lord seated on his throne. Christine was singing that. And um and and yes, it it it just kept going and going and going and going. And uh and yeah, I remember like there they canceled the message, canceled all the formalities, and we just basically saying, You are holy, oh so holy, holy Lord of all for like an hour. And um I actually remember I I I'm always learning, and I was definitely super learning at that time. I remember it was almost like there was so much space. We were doing we were doing this over and over again, and I remember um I actually at the end texted Christine when we got out, and I was like, hey, should I have done like should I have jumped in? Should I have done this? Should I and I was kind of overthinking just from a worship leader perspective. Yeah. Um, like, kind of did I drop the ball? And she she texted me something really uh it stuck with me a lot. She was like, you know, I've spent way too much of my life overthinking worship sets, overthinking, did I do too much? Did I do too little? And she was basically just encouraging me to get out of the way in a worship set and get out of my head and just be like, essentially, like, did I make space for the Lord to show up and did I honor him with my worship? Yes, great. Okay, it doesn't matter what I sang, doesn't matter what I did. Wow. So I remember that set, it's just funny that you bring that up. I I learned a lot that day actually about creating space for the Lord. And um, you know, I I think Christine also talks about like setting the table in worship and then getting out of the way. And and I I think that as worship leaders, um sometimes the big challenge is like we want to show up and be big and lead the room and all those things are great, but sometimes we um forget to like get out of the way and let the Lord be honored in the room and be welcomed, and sometimes it's easy to make it about us and our cool voices and our runs and our our new song. And um so yeah, that day I I'd learned a lot about making space and getting out of the way, you know.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

Let's talk about the uh um art industry and the creative world and uh the tension, uh the challenges that come with a daughter of God having to go into a marketplace and having to perform, but as some knowing that I'm a daughter of a king. Take us through the journey, because uh you've been part of something like that.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

What's the story behind that?

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Being an artist is such a cool calling. Um, I think everyone's an artist. Um, it says like God created, and that's the first thing we hear. God created, and then we're it created in the image of God. So we are all creators and we're all artists. To then be called into that as a career um is such an amazing, amazing thing, right? To get to glorify God and the talent that He's given me. I think it can get lost for sure. Um just like you look at TV and you look at film and you look at Broadway and you look at music, and it's easy to get caught up in like all of those things glorifying the world. And so, how can you exist in a show that glorifies the world, glorifies self? I think a lot of artists, um, if you're not careful, like believers included, can backslide into this idea of like um just self-glorification. I mean, even now, like you look at like the Instagram is your resume. And when you get hired for a lot of jobs now, it says, please include your Instagram handle. 100% kind of and then they go look at your Instagram handle, and depending on the pictures they see and the videos they see and the number of followers you have, you may or may not get the job. So then what does that do? Even if you're like guarding yourself against that, if you're being careful and discerning, you know, what do I want to share? What do I not want to share? Do the followers matter to me? Like that affects how you navigate your day-to-day as an artist because you're like, oh, wait, like I do need to post on my Instagram or whatever. And is this, is this really just self-glorification? Is this essential? Can God bless what I'm doing without that? So there's just there's so much gray area and there's so much tension that I think like God can be glorified in a lot of it. If you're like, please, like uh like refine me and purify me in this and help me to discern what is going to glorify you and what isn't. I think the biggest shift for me has been drawing new boundary lines. There's a verse that says, like, um, my your boundary, my boundary lines are in pleasant places. Um, and so like speaking that and believing, like, okay, there might be boundary lines that God is gonna place on you as an artist in a secular industry. And those are going to be beautiful and beneficial for you if you stay within those boundary lines. Um I think I I wish that I had had someone speaking a little bit more clearly into as a young artist going into this world, you know, I was on cruise ships and then I traveled all over the US doing different regional shows. And it's like a lot of that was great. And then I look back on some of the jobs that I took and I'm like, God's sure purified me a lot in the last two years. Like, look back seven years ago, like, what have I said yes to that job? Like, probably not. Five years ago, would I have said yes to that job? Like, I don't know. Um, I know the Lord still blesses that because sanctification is such a lifelong process. But I think to the artist who is in the industry trying to navigate it as a believer, just like continuing to pray for discernment and like the word is it. Like, if you're daily in the word and you're feasting on the goodness of God, like he is going to refine and purify you. And I think that goes beyond dancers. Like, that's dancers, like singers, actors, models, like whatever, musicians, podcasts, yeah, like whatever, like whatever you're doing to do unto the glory of God and just pray for wisdom and discernment. Because I think it was, wasn't it Lucifer, like the like angel of music? Yeah.

unknown 15:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

In heaven.

SPEAKER_05 15:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:42

So of course, like, of course, the music industry and the entertainment industry is going to be filled with temptation.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

So, so powerful, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:52

So when we're existing in a world that is really truly dominated by the angel of music, um, how can we still be salt and light and not how can we be salt and light and be in the world but not of the world and still glorify God with our talent.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

Wow. I want to introduce the subject of um uh prophetic art or prophetic worship or whatever you call it, like uh worship art. People that have seen in some of the meetings that you guys have been in, you've seen someone on stage, worship is ongoing and they are painting something. Uh on a like a canvas that's just like nothing's on there, and then you start right away painting. And that's what you do. Uh but you've done that like in different spaces, but right now you do painting professionally in a marketplace, but incorporating that with uh how heaven sees what it's like as God gives you downloads and all that. I wanted to switch gears by bringing you into that kind of conversation of like you paint professionally.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

When you that start.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Yeah, I think it was always a dream of mine, but I think that sometimes you're a little scared to admit as a creative that, like, oh, I want to do this full time, because you know, a lot of people in America were or you know, it where I grew up in the Midwest, they can't really conceptualize actually, you know, making money from what this is. And I think sometimes you don't always have to have it be making money. Like you don't tell every person who's a good cook, like, you should start a restaurant, you know, like that kind of thing. Yeah. But I think um it was really kind of a path to learning, like, okay, this is really what I want to do. And um I think with in art, I had a couple times when I was like leading, you know, worship on stage back in Ohio. And, you know, someone would be like, Oh, put up a painting and paint for us up on stage. So you were worshiping it. I was, I yeah. And so I was like, I didn't, I didn't sing on stage, but I was I was painting on stage. And then I would have so many people come up to me after that and say, Oh my goodness, like your painting brought breakthrough, or like I was thinking about something and then you painted it. And I was like, What? I was like, how in the world? And I think like when I was in high school, I had I always like talked, I try to talk to God and I try to hear him. And I feel like I get like downloads more in like visual senses. Like I'll get words sometimes, sometimes scripture, but I feel like it's mainly just like little movies or little pictures. And I would tell people those things and they would be encouraging. Sometimes they would hit home, sometimes they wouldn't. But then there was times I would get more like general things, like for the city, for um like my stage of life that I was in. And I didn't know what to do with those always. And so I just translated them into my paintings. And I think that like that was when I kind of struck lightning, and I'm like, whoa, this might be what I'm here for. Like this might be my purpose, is making these things that invite people into a conversation about what could God be talking to us about, or could he be talking to us every day? Or is heaven here with us right now? You know, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

So that is amazing. For someone who's out there and they're hearing was like downloads, that's like when you have an idea that you know you didn't come up with that idea. It's only like God or an idea that you didn't come up with, but then you get to partner with that, and then you get to see God get his full reward by you being obedient towards that. But I love the fact that you open the conversation about hearing God as an artist.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:25

There's no artist that I know that is like even those that are not following God, I know to the depth of my soul that actually God speaks to them. Oh my goodness, yes, yeah. You can in a human capacity, there's only so much you can come up with.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:43

But to include God in your story, in having to open up a conversion, God speaks to me, and then he gives you imagery and movies in your head. How does that work?

SPEAKER_01 19:52

I agree. And I I feel like that's a great way to put it. It's like, I remember I had a professor in college, and I would he knew I was Christian and he knew about my faith, but he wasn't there and he didn't have the same beliefs. But he's like, you know, there are times when I've been painting, and I feel like maybe that is when I believe in God, because I'll get an idea and I'm like, where did that come from? And I'm like, there's a there's another level. And I think, you know, like the name of your podcast being about kingdom is kind of what all my paintings are about, is that there's another dimension or there's another, another element going on, like simultaneous as us, as our natural, like all the time. Wow. And like we can tap into that through the Holy Spirit, or we can tap into that through God. And so, like, you know, artists always are trying to kind of manufacture ways of coming up with ideas and things. And I remember hearing like some stat, I don't really know what it was, but like how many like movies and like ideas and great pieces of art have come out of like dreams and visions.

SPEAKER_05 20:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

And like it's crazy. Like, um, I think like the song Let It Be, you know, it was come came from an actual dream, like a dream of Mother Mary coming to me. Like that was an actual dream that they had. And I was like, whoa, that's cool. That like our dream state or like this other when we tap into that is what times when God talks to us or when creativity comes alive. And so I feel like making art kind of feels like trying to make manifest or make a thin place and being like, oh, I get a window into heaven, or I get a window into that place that, you know, where ideas come from or something like that. So not always. I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying why paintings are heaven, but it's it's trying to like strike that chord, trying to like tap in and be like, okay, hey, like what could heaven trying to be say?

SPEAKER_03 21:36

So let's get this straight. Yeah. You hear God's voice. He speaks to you. Yes. And then the way you hear his voice is through imagery. It's through visions, it's through like an I obstruct idea, then you get to cooperate or like partner with it, and then it becomes manifest as an actual painting.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Yeah, kind of. I mean, that's a good point. I guess that's what I'm saying.