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Priyanka Aribindi: Podcasting with Crooked Media, Writing on Substack & The Row Park Tote

• Nan Philip • Season 1 • Episode 4

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For the fourth episode of the podcast, Nan sits down with Priyanka Aribindi, a writer, podcast host, and content consultant whose Substack “Shit I Bought And Liked” is a can’t miss shopping newsletter. Both women have newsletters on Substack and love to shop, so they have lots to talk about. 


Priyanka recounts her path from working at Time magazine to getting a DM from Crooked Media’s Jon Lovett that led her to move to LA, launch one of their first daily newsletters, and eventually host her own podcast. 

 

Then, both women get honest about the realities of freelance life; the pros, cons, healthcare nightmares, how to scope out projects and what to charge. Next they dive into all things Substack: Priyanka discusses how she built her audience over seven years, when to launch a paid tier, and how she goes about working with brands for partnerships. Plus, Priyanka shares her number-one tip for anyone starting out on substack. 


Later the girls switch over to discussing shopping and their shared love of the The Row N/S Park Tote and more details on everything they think about as they shop. The episode closes with Priyanka’s three noteworthy tips for surviving real life: Last Call as a post-drinking supplement, a “dinner list” in her notes app, and leaving her phone in the kitchen overnight for a better night's sleep. 

 

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Timestamps:

00:00 Welcome Priyanka Aribindi

02:20 Highs & Lows of the Week 

07:32 From Time Inc. to Crooked Media

15:12 ‘Shit I Bought And Liked’

19:36 Substack tips

27:28 Freelance Life

32:41 Shopping: The Row Park Tote

37:25 Noteworthy Tips

45:34 Priyanka’s Favorite NYC Spots



Credits:

Host: Nan Philip

Executive Producer: Julia Aubuchon

Technical Director: Drew Downing

Guest: Priyanka Aribindi


SPEAKER_00

Hi everyone, welcome back to Noteworthy with Nan. We are here with my friend Priyanca today, which I'm so excited about. Priyanka, thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. This is beautiful. Oh my gosh. Well, I feel like you you guys will hear that Priyanka is really a podcast star. She knows all her stuff about podcasts, so we really are gonna have to learn from you. Oh my goodness. But before we dive in, will you just give us a little elevator pitch on who you are and so everyone can get to know the background of you? Yes.

SPEAKER_01

My name is Priyanka Erebindi. I am 31 years old. I live in New York City. I am a writer, a podcast host, and a content consultant, I guess you would call it. Do a little like marketing and branded content consulting. Okay. But I would say primarily I think of myself as a writer. That's what I think of you as. Kind of have always done that professionally on the side. We met through Substack. I write a Substack called Should I Bought And Liked. This is not really an elevator pitch. Oh, it can be like five minutes long.

SPEAKER_00

We want all the info.

SPEAKER_01

But yes, I write a Substack. It's called Should I Bought And Liked? I've done that for about seven years now, which is wild.

SPEAKER_00

Everyone needs to subscribe. It's one of my favorites. It's fun. We have fun. Yeah. You have fun too. I like yours. I mean, both of ours are a lot of shopping content, which is really what we have.

SPEAKER_01

Um I in the past hosted a daily news podcast. Most recently hosted a podcast with Time magazine on um innovation. It was basically interviews with like business leaders on how their industries are changing, how they're using AI, technology, the future of work.

SPEAKER_00

It was very official. I was very impressed.

SPEAKER_01

It's very official. Um, really fun, kind of a different world to try out, but loved kind of getting to do that. Um, and more recently have started consulting for a few brands on content and marketing and making, you know, like branded podcasts and what does that look like? Which is really fun. It's like a bunch of different parts of my brain.

SPEAKER_00

So I think it's fun because I feel like you're you always have your hands in so many things that I'm always like, what is she up to now? Like there's always a fun update.

SPEAKER_01

It's, I mean, I'm sure we'll talk about like freelance. We don't know. It's crazy, it's fun. I don't know. There's there's things to not like about it, but there is so much to love.

SPEAKER_00

Pros and cons, like every part of life, definitely. Before we dive into that, will you give us a high and a low from the past week, maybe week or two? I just always love to know like where someone's at at the moment.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Okay. My high is crazy, but it is like the best, truly the best thing. Um, Monday, I got new bookshelves installed. Oh, I love this. Okay. It like kind of kicked off a reorganization of my entire apartment. I moved furniture around, like, we have a whole new vibe in there. Amazing. In the best way. And I didn't really think I needed that much of a facelift in the apartment, but I am like, wow, I love it. It just makes me so happy.

SPEAKER_00

Did you move the furniture yourself or have someone come?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I was like, No, no, I mean, like, I moved the chair in the mirror or whatever, but I did not build the bookshelves.

SPEAKER_00

That, like, I'm aware of my own limitations. My problem is that like I'm like, oh, I'm a single girl. I can totally do this myself. And I'm like halfway through like moving my mattress or something, and then I'm like, no, I need another body. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, for that, I just was like, this is tall. It's like drills and stuff. Past my pay grade. Yeah, not for me. Okay, new bookshelves. New bookshelves. Yes. And like I, it's been crazy how many times this has come up this week. And I'm just like, yeah, I'm so happy. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00

Did they are they sort of custom or did you get them from somewhere that they're IKEA? Oh my gosh, amazing. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

They're IKEA. And I was like, why didn't I do this like years ago? I've been thinking about it forever as one of those things that I just put off. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, it's simple, but like my life is so much better.

SPEAKER_00

Fabulous. Um, we will have to link to them, so you'll have to send us a link. I will. Because I do think it's hard to find a good IKEA product. Like, there's so many, and you sort of need to follow someone's recommendation for what you get instead of sort of going in.

SPEAKER_01

I'll send them to you. I like them especially because I don't know, New York City apartments, small, not a lot of storage. Totally. So now I have some covered storage on the bottom and then my books at the top. So it's just like a neater.

SPEAKER_00

And like some things in New York apartments need to be behind closed doors.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. And hard to find. You don't always have a space, and I'm happy with it.

SPEAKER_00

Did you go out to Ikea, did you have them delivered? Go out to IKEA on your own?

SPEAKER_01

I did go to IKEA to look at this stuff. I find it helpful in general to be like really see it in person. I want to touch this. I want to see what it looks like. Um, but then of course I had it delivered.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

There is something not doing those, which is like a very New York specific tip. But in an old apartment, I found someone who it's like you'd have to just Google IKEA delivery in New York City. And there's people that you can hire who will go to IKEA, buy it in person, bring it to you, and put it together. Like really do the whole thing for you. And it's own it's separate from IKEA's business model, but it's kind of easier to just pay a one-off guy. And I found that very helpful when I needed IKEA closets, like a full build out. That was amazing. Okay, noted. Yeah. Because it's like otherwise, you're ordering them, you're getting a different task rabbit. It's a lot of steps. And it was nice to just get one person.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. This was also just felt like peak efficiency. The task rabbit came. I was writing a newsletter. I was like, oh, like weird.

SPEAKER_00

Things are happening.

SPEAKER_01

Everything's happening all at once, but in a good way. Amazing. Okay, so that's your high. My low. I spent a lot of time this week in like big dumb lines. Classic New York City, like cueing for things, food things. Okay, like worth it? Where were you waiting? Both were not worth it. Okay. The first one was Rocky's matcha. They were had a pop-up at RAF's. Okay. So I haven't even heard of this. LA matcha brand. They're apparently very good. I bought the matcha powder. Bought the matcha powder. Okay. I think the matcha powder is good, but I just did not love the drink I got and was like, did I need to be, this took way longer than expected. Did I need to be 10 minutes late to therapy to get away?

SPEAKER_00

Every minute of therapy counts are taking it. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01

I was just like, that's bad, bad, bad for me.

SPEAKER_00

But once you're in line, if you're almost to the front, I was like, I'm not gonna leave.

SPEAKER_01

I already ordered, you know, the whole thing. To the audience, I'm not making myself look good.

SPEAKER_00

I wonder if people, I feel like it's such a New York City thing to wait in really long lines for things. And I don't know if I'm sure in other big cities, but I would assume if you're not in a city, you'd be like, I'm sorry, you waited an hour for froyo. Like, what are you thinking? But it is a New York City thing.

SPEAKER_01

And then I feel I like posted a substack note about this, but it's like I just feel ashamed when I'm doing that because I'm like, I know that this is like there's better use of line. Yeah, and like everyone around me knows it too. And we're all sort of there. It's like we're our heads are all hanging and like no one wants to make a commentary.

SPEAKER_00

I've definitely waited in line for some sample sales. Yes. I don't wait in line for food, really.

unknown

I know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, on Saturday morning, bright and early on a rainy day, I trekked to Brooklyn because this chili crisp brand that I like, they basically closed down the brand. I think they started a restaurant, but they like did a pop-up where they were like, we're selling it, like bring your own jar, whatever. Sorry, what is the food? It's chili crisp, like a like a spicy, crispy um condiment, basically. Okay. You like put it on eggs. This is. I'm so not an adventurous eater, because I'm like, what is that? It's really good. I love it. It's called Onino. Okay. Um their thing started at 10. I show up at 10.05, and they go to the woman ahead of me in line at like 10.25, and they're basically like, we're sold out. Like everyone behind you, like can't.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, No, I'm done.

SPEAKER_01

You didn't get any? None. Oh my god, I would be heartbroken. I know, and I in the rain. In the rain, and I woke up late, so I was like, I'll take an Uber. I really just want to get it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Crazy. Oh, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

So I think I'm like, I'm done with the line here. I've been like burned too many times.

SPEAKER_00

You've learned your lesson, hopefully. Wow. I yeah, I could not do that. It's not worth it. It's like, I'm I feel like I've shared. No, this is good. We this is what we want. The complexity, real honest, I regret that I didn't. I love that like you have this whole podcast history that I didn't really even know about you when we first became friends a few years ago. Yeah. So, like, as I was researching for the episode, I was like, oh my God, did she live in LA for years? Yes, years. I don't know how I didn't know that about you. Oh my god. So I'm curious, sort of, I know you went to Vanderbilt. I know you sort of started at time. Time was my first time. In real simple. And so was that in New York City? That was in New York City. And then how did you end up with crooked media going out to LA, that whole world? Craziest, craziest story.

SPEAKER_01

I like moved to New York City, wanted to work in magazines, always internet magazines. Got it.

SPEAKER_00

That feels very in line with how I know you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like that was totally what I wanted to do. Okay. Um, I actually found out about Crooked when they first started. It it is a media company for anyone who doesn't know.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, give us the background because I had heard of it in passing, but I did do some extra Googling and I was like, oh, they're really connected to Obama. It's very political. So tell the audiences like my mother, for example, that would probably have no idea what crooked media is. Totally. Crooked media is, I mean, the name is just funny.

SPEAKER_01

It's like a crooked Hillary reference, which is like, we're really, really going back there. Okay. Um basically started, I think, post Donald Trump's election by three former Obama staff right or staffers. I think two of them were speechwriters. One was a National Security Council spokesman, like very legit, but also young. They were in their mid-30s at the time. Because I mean, Obama administration, everyone kind of was young. Was young. Yeah, that's so cool. Um, or like a lot of them. We need more of that. Yeah, but they basically, I think they were doing a podcast prior. Okay. And they wanted to do this on their own. They wanted to build a progressive media company, and basically, like, the point of their podcast, Pod Save America, was to, and I mean, sorry if they're like, this is not correct. Um, but my understanding of it was basically to like make this news and all this stuff that seemed so, I don't know if you remember that time, it was like everything was crazy. You had no idea, like, does it feel that different than this? I know, but it's like, you know, it was when Unprecedented felt like it's still like everything is unprecedented, but then it was just so great. You were like, I've never seen anything like this before. Um, but they kind of were like, we're gonna help you digest what's going on, bring on expert, like break it down for the average person. Yeah, and not so different than like what other people are doing, but I think the conversations that they were having really resonated with people. People people liked their personalities, people liked that they were actually real friends.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And I feel like now almost in this like 2026, we're used to that, but they started a long time ago where it wasn't as common to have these sort of like personalities talking about the news off of a major network.

SPEAKER_01

I know, and it's very different than cable, like it wasn't produced, they were actually friends, they were funny, engaging. I mean, I say saying were, they still are. It's still going, right? They still go. Pod Save America is their biggest show. Okay. Um, but basically, I found out about this podcast because Time, where I was working at the time, had an article about it. Oh, cool. My job was on social, so I was basically tweeting this article out. Okay. Read the article and was like, oh, that sounds interesting. I want to be informed. I should listen to this podcast. They sound smart. Um, listened to the podcast, loved it. And that kind of was just that. I was just sort of like a regular person going to work every day, being like, This is crazy, but like I'm listening to this podcast, it's helping helping me get through it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I think I had followed, I did follow them on Twitter. Okay. Back in the day, when different time. Totally different time. One of them had seen it, John Lovett had seen that I followed them and that I worked at time. I think just followed me back. Was like, great.

SPEAKER_00

Always take a follow back. Always take a follow back.

SPEAKER_01

Nice, thanks. But he, I think, saw one of my newsletters, was like, we want to start a daily newsletter in addition to the podcast that we're starting. And he DM'd me.

SPEAKER_00

And I was like, Are you telling me you got this job basically over DM?

SPEAKER_01

Over DM. That is so cool. He DM'd me, but like I was like, this is crazy. This is a guy who hosts the podcast that I listened to. Like, they do live shows, like they are legit. They're really legit.

SPEAKER_00

But you worked at a very, you know, a good company too. You had a legit job.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I it just was like, I don't know, I was 23 at the time. Yeah. And I had just gotten a new job. I just moved to Real Simple. You're like, I'm I'm settled, things are happening. I was like, I'm in women's magazine world. This is exactly where I wanted to be. Like I'm so excited. New job. Get this DM. And I'm like, this is so crazy. I'll never forget. I was on vacation with my family. It was like, this is wild.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like my parents would be like, oh no, stay at the corporate company.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they were like, what in the world? Um, but we did, we did have actual interviews, like talk on the phone and met their chief content officer when she was in New York, and I just really liked everyone there, and they were all smart. And it was one of those things where very quickly, it wasn't really a question. It was like, of course I'm gonna do this. It's like you. I didn't want to move to LA. I thought I would be in New York forever. I was like, ugh, like I'm gonna hate it there. No, I didn't. I loved it. Okay. But like it just was no question.

SPEAKER_00

Moved. How many people do you think were at crooked at the time? Like, how small was it when you started?

SPEAKER_01

When I came, definitely under 10.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Small. We were in like a like a one-room office. Okay, so you're really in like startup phase. Totally. Because that's a lot, I think, to take a risk of like we all know startups have a ton of potential, but to go work for a company, leave this big corporate job for a company of 10, you're like, I hope you still want to employ me six months from now.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the crazy thing is, I mean, like media, the media business in New York at that time, and still, like, they did not have money. Right. They were letting people fired from left and right. Whereas these guys, everyone was throwing money at them. Okay, yeah, yeah. To do to advertise on their podcast. It was also they had like a pretty lean operation. They had like very few employees. Like, it was so crazy to be it's the first time I was at a company. I mean, this was pretty fresh out of school, like a year out, where I was at a company that was making money, like in a in a big way. Okay. Rather than being like, oh my god, we're like fighting for every dollar. Like, how do we, you know? Yeah, it felt like night and day. Um, and I mean, of course, night and day in a lot of ways because it's way smaller. You're doing a lot, like you can if you want to do something, you just can.

SPEAKER_00

Well, because then that led to you having a podcast with them that you hosted.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yes. So I basically I started by writing a nightly newsletter to me and I had an editor, but basically, you know, the guys, the the three founders of the company would like jump in and edit. Um my boss, the chief content officer, would jump in and it was like very cool to work like so hands-on. Yeah, I love that. Um, on this nightly political newsletter about like everything that had happened in the day.

SPEAKER_00

And like would you have said beforehand that you were very like interested in politics?

SPEAKER_01

Like what how I would say I was a writer. This was like not my wheelhouse. And I think they uh wanted me to be a part of it because they were like, we like the voice of your newsletter, we like how you do this. And I was like, Yeah, I'm I'm interested in politics. I work at time, it's news, like I care about I actually think it was more news than politics. Okay. Politics sort of just was at that time. Um but yeah, it was like that was not once again, not fully my wheelhouse, and sort of just was like, yeah, I'm like anything you can figure it out.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Down to figure out I'm also was just like I'm around such smart people. Like I would these this is who I'm listening to, anyways, to kind of like make sense of it.

SPEAKER_00

Like how fun to kind of like be in the room and so walk us through how you went from being at crooked to then stack. So when did you start that? Were you still at crooked?

SPEAKER_01

I was at Crooked. Okay. I was still writing the this daily newsletter, which is such a grind. And I wanted, and I mean You're like, let me write more newsletters. No, but I mean I like loved to write. It was like very fun for me, but I wanted something different than the seven, which was a lot of like very labor intensive to I mean, labor intensive might be the wrong word. It was just like a lot of research and yeah, yeah, research and reading, and I wanted something that was just fun. Like no editor, no rules, like just for fun. Okay. And I was like, great, like I'm just gonna talk about like stuff I bought. Love. And like, of course, people had Instagram accounts and were like doing influencing that way. I was just like, that doesn't, I like Instagram, I use it, but I'm not even now, I'm not like an Instagram.

SPEAKER_00

It's such a more visual or now so video focused. It's definitely not. Like if you're a writer, it makes sense to want to have a newsletter. Did you launch on Substack or was it a different platform for?

SPEAKER_01

Pre-Substack, I did Tiny Letter.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I've heard of that in concept. I sort of read that.

SPEAKER_01

Remember that? You like I actually went to Substack because Tiny Letter, I think, maxes you out at 5,000 subscribers. Oh, she's getting big.

SPEAKER_00

She's got a lot happening. Wow, I have to leave.

SPEAKER_01

Where am I gonna go?

SPEAKER_00

So now when you were having Substack host your newsletter, have you been there for like three years, four years?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I think three around then, three years probably.

SPEAKER_00

Priyanka's like a real deal Substack writer. Like I love my little Substack, but she's been on it for a while. She really like has all these paid subscribers, she's a bestseller. Like you're killing as well. I don't know. I know I'm not gonna be like, I was later to the Substack world.

SPEAKER_01

I still kind of feel like I don't like there are people who are like in there with the notes every day. And like really, that's not me. I sort of show up and like for better or for worse, probably for worse, I probably should play the game a little more. No, but like in the same way that I was kind of like, I'm not like I don't know if I want to do outfit content on Instagram every day. Like, I kind of was just like, I don't know. Like I just kind of want to do this in a way that works for me.

SPEAKER_00

What is your sort of Substack schedule? Do you have sort of a schedule for yourself? Like, I think you send out at least once once a week.

SPEAKER_01

Probably once a week. Okay. I've tried to do that more recently. Before it was like just a couple times a month.

SPEAKER_00

For anyone listening who doesn't subscribe, just I mean, we've said it's about shopping, but just give us a little more of what they could expect because everyone should go and subscribe. We will link to it in all our links.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it's called Shit I Bought and Legged. Truly, that was the the whole point, was just like things I was enjoying.

SPEAKER_00

And have you always been a shopper? Like, I feel like we love to like talk about everything we're buying.

SPEAKER_01

I've always been a shopper. Okay. And I've always loved, I mean, I think even more than that, I like talking about and sharing things that I'm like enjoying. Like, I would tell you about my IKEA shelves for like 15 minutes and talk about me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's very specific people that want to dive into all of that though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, where I'm like, I'm happy to like, I feel like more someone has said this and I kind of picked it up, but like I feel like an enthusiast for the things that I Yes, I love that.

SPEAKER_00

There used to be this brand or this brand called of a kind. Do you remember them? They would do like these limited edition launches with cool other brands we loved. And they made a sweatshirt that was called Professional Enthusiasts. Yes, that's kind of. And I was like, yes, I love that. Cause I love when people have like hobbies that they're really into, or even if it's just shopping or talking about jewelry, it's like I could talk about this forever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And that's sort of like the through line, even in my last the newsletter that I was doing before I wrote What A Day, that that nightly newsletter, the seven. Yeah. It was like I was enthusiastic about these stories and I wanted to share them with my friends. Like that's how the straight newsletter.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe you should do like once a month for your for shit I bought and liked. You could put like seven articles. Yeah kind of thing. I know I've toyed with because people definitely I go back and forth of like, here's what I'm reading, here's some like shows I'm watching on Netflix, and I don't share that regularly, but anytime I do, I get more comments and I get sort of like a different type of engagement. Because I think sometimes we do all get like do we need another affiliate link of what to buy when probably none of us need to buy anything. It's sort of nice to talk about something that's not shopping content.

SPEAKER_01

Totally. I've tried to do a little bit of that too, but not in in the way that you said it's not like the most structured or like consistent. Yeah. I'll talk a lot about like restaurants, yeah, like things I'm reading and stuff like that. And it's stuff I love to share, but it's um, I should build some more consistency around it.

SPEAKER_00

If anyone is listening and is new on Substack or thinking about starting a Substack, I feel like we have a Substack professional. Like, what would your tips be? Like, you charge for your Substack, but not a lot of it's not behind a paywall.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of it's I do basically one letter a month for my paid subscribers. Okay. And I I just I didn't even ever think that I would have a paid subscriber tier. Frankly, I was doing a shopping newsletter and I was like, that's that's how we're making money here. It's not a strategy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I am like really grateful that people it's it's wild that people want to support you on the internet. I think it's so wild, but also at the same time, like I do get so much joy and good recommendations from a small group of people that I'm like, if if I'm using your links all the time, if I'm buying things from you and it's making my life better, like, sure, I'll give you $60. Like I know everyone can't do that, but if I can do that, like I'd rather give it to the Substacker that's helping me a lot than like, I don't know, some big corporation where I would be buying a magazine from. I'd rather have it go directly to a person.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, and so I basically started that letter where I was like, I I turned this on because the Substack people were like, you should do this.

SPEAKER_00

You kind of have to on Substack, they like every platform are trying to make money too. So they really prioritize and sort of reward you for charging your audience. So it's hard. I did charge for a little bit, then I sort of stopped and I still have it on, but I don't put anything behind the paywall. And I literally basically have written to my audience like, if you want to support me in an extra way, would love for you to pay for this, but I'm not asking you to. Because if you take off the paid element completely, you sort of get downranked in the total algorithm of Substack, which is hard.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's a weird, and to that kind of point, like I don't know if I have the best tips for like how to game it, how to grow your Substack. Frankly, my tips are boring. It just is like be consistent. Yeah, consistency is it doesn't have to be like every Monday at five. Like you just find, like, try to do if it's gonna be two times a month or four times a month or once, and like this is just the setup. Like, you would kind of be amazed at how many people, and this isn't bad.

SPEAKER_00

I start things and stop them too, but like I think it's so common for people to start and do like five of something, you know. Five podcast episodes. Let's hope we get past that. I think we will. You know, five newsletters. You do just have to like put in the time.

SPEAKER_01

It's just reps, like you get better at it, and it becomes, I mean, like, it still takes me a long time to write and edit. I think it'll always take me a long time to write and edit anything because I'm like, I want to let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_00

Good. What is sort of your cadence for how you go about writing your substacks? And do you, you know, work on them a week in advance? Do you write them the day before? I feel like we've talked about personally before that you're like, I need to leave my apartment and go to a coffee shop to finish writing this.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. I, I mean, I wish I could tell you. I do have a content calendar like loosely.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I don't even have that. So that's impressive.

SPEAKER_01

It's just a list of like these are things like upcoming, like these are that you might want to dive into. And it's, I don't know, creativity is sort of it's not something you can always put on. So like when it's on for me, I'm like, oh, I have a million ideas and things I want to do. Um, so I just kind of keep track of all of it. Okay. I it depends on the letter. Sometimes it'll be like started well in advance, sometimes like oftentimes I am sending right after I finish something. Same.

SPEAKER_00

Like when I finish it, I'm like, okay, I can't really look at this any longer. Let's get it out of here. Because if a lot of times with any type of the content that I make, if I let it sit for too long, it's never gonna see the blank day.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

There's like no real method to I think that like you just get so in the groove. I think one thing that's different about making a newsletter that you wouldn't really think is for me, it just takes a long time to link everything. And like that's no one needs to feel bad for me about that. That's a perfectly nice type of job that, oh, it takes me an hour just to add in all the links, but it takes more time than you'd think.

SPEAKER_01

It's interesting to me because it's almost like you do every part of this. It's like your own little publication. Right, your own media company. You would never do that in a bigger thing. And I kind of love even the you know, the partnership element where it's like you talk to the brand, you're negotiating, you're like doing a contract.

SPEAKER_00

Craft is big and has a lot of this.

SPEAKER_01

I I don't do a lot of paid substacts, but I'm like, one day, well, if you do partnerships on Instagram and stuff, it's like similar. It is cool, and I really enjoy sort of being able to do it all and like try all of it in this like controlled little environmental environment where I'm like, oh, like I have a I mean, I always had a content business like where I was a freelancer and would come in and host podcasts. Like, yes, I had a business in that way. Yeah, but this like really makes me feel like I have a business because it's like I'm doing this these logistical link things and making sure that's cool.

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow, that Substack was successful. Now I can charge X. Like it just feels a little more personal when it's very specific to each newsletter that's going out and you're seeing your growth.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Did you do you pitch yourselves to brands a lot or do you find most of them are coming to you?

SPEAKER_01

Most of them are coming to me. I do a little bit of pitching. It kind of depends, but I feel like for the most part, I like working with brands where I am already talking about them.

SPEAKER_00

That's how they found me because like I was Do you typically do like a whole post sponsored by one brand or more so like a little section?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, my preferences whole posts. Okay. Sometimes it's like, oh, like a Mother's Day guide, for example. Like that was my most recent partnership, which I was like, oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_00

Who did you partner with?

SPEAKER_01

Oseya. Oh, the body products I love. Which actually was a good, actually was a good fit. But like, no, no, no, it was a You do talk about them. Yeah, I talk about them a lot, but also my new mom friends, like I was like, this is a really good fit because like I interviewed last year a bunch of my new mom friends, and they mentioned this body oil by name.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, facts.

SPEAKER_01

Where I like went to the brand and was like, hey, yeah, everybody.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, cool. Do you for something like that? This is just me being so curious, you don't have to totally tell us, but like, do they say to you, we don't want you to mention any other body brand body care brands?

SPEAKER_01

It depends on the brands. Yeah. Um, like some are like don't care, like the we just care about, you know being included. Yeah, or like being the lead product or whatnot. Um, and then some brands are like, you know, if they want a little exclusivity. Right. And I'm kind of like, I'm down with whatever you want to do. I mean, I think the best partnerships always are ones where they get your vision and what you do. And your tone of voice.

SPEAKER_00

Like I feel like I wouldn't really I'm so used to your newsletters mentioning a lot of things and like it's like beauty products here, and then it's a t-shirt that you love. So it wouldn't almost feel natural if it was only talking about one brand the entire time.

SPEAKER_01

Like even like the voice, like yeah, I found that actually, I think that was first apparent to me in podcast ads for Pod Save America. They like were really popular with advertisers because they would just like riff and like have real have fun. So people actually listened to the ads and like loved kind of like it was very fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but of course, some brands were like, no, we need you to read this copy. Oh, okay. And like that's gonna be a worse ad. It's gonna perform. You can have parameters, you can have things where you're like, okay, you must talk about these things, or like this is the the call to action, whatever, or this is the discount code, sure.

SPEAKER_00

But like let us describe the brand our own way and the way that our audience is gonna be.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, in marketing, it's sort of is like if you're gonna work with someone, you're working with them, it should be because you like their style and like what they're doing.

SPEAKER_00

The way that every like in just Instagram ads or any type of influencing, it's really everyone's leaning towards.

SPEAKER_01

Let them cook, like let them do their thing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but brands don't always get that.

SPEAKER_01

No. But I do feel like very fortunate that the ones that I've worked with um really do. Yeah, so you've said yes to the right ones, or the right ones have found that. I I think it's also because they are a lot, they're reaching out to me. It's not like I have this huge audience, but like she has a good audience. But no, it's a good fit. Yeah, it's it feels really good. They're also like brands I actually use. I feel not very much pressure, and I don't know, maybe it's also because I do multiple things.

SPEAKER_00

Right. It's not your only income stream, you have a lot of other things going on.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not like, oh, I should say yes to this, but like I've never used this product and would never tell my friends about it.

SPEAKER_00

I just don't how have you sort of managed now that you're fully in this like freelancer life of having a lot of different things happening? How do you manage, like, okay, this brand reached out to me when when I saw you last week, we were talking about that you're doing some sort of copywriting for a different brand. Like, how do you know how much time to give them? I think one thing I talk about with my friends a lot when they go out and start freelancing, it's really hard to know like how much time a project's gonna take. And I think that's one of the biggest learning curves is what you can put on your plate, and then all of a sudden you're like, whoa, I have too much and I'm not getting paid enough for any of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I feel like I've learned the hard way that I like underestimate the amount of time things. I think we all do. Um and also just like I know how I work, if I'm gonna this is less for a Substack partnership, but I guess also like I know how I work, I know I take a lot of time and like want to do things the right way. It's especially for brands that I'm not on the Substack side, but on the consulting side. If if I'm for this, I think I was telling you about copywriting a report for an AI fashion brand and or an AI brand in retail, and I'm gonna do my research. And it's gonna take me time, and I think like what we're gonna end up with, I'm I'm proud of. I think it's like straightforward, I think it's good, uh engaging content that's easy to understand, and like the way to do that is by putting in the time. Yeah, is by putting in the time to understand it. And the same with news. That was like my approach to it was like I'm gonna give you the context to try and understand this as a regular person because I'm also a regular person, so this is the context I needed. But it takes time to be like you have to research and find out what that is, and that I mean, my actual time spent writing isn't as long as an equation. Yeah. Um no, I mean there's no perfect science, it's tricky, it's hard, but I yeah, overestimate.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think say it's gonna take longer, raise charge more, like they charge more, they can negotiate with you, so start higher. You know, it's tricky.

SPEAKER_01

Always negotiate, yeah. Um, I'm also saying.

SPEAKER_00

What do you so I forget that you're full on freelance? Like, what do you do for your healthcare? You're like me. Like, do you totally work for yourself? Yeah, I totally it's such a nightmare.

unknown

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

My healthcare is a mess. Um, randomly, I also think it's like was harder for me to be self-employed in New York with my healthcare. When I lived in Massachusetts during COVID, it was much easier to buy like independent healthcare. I just thought it was a smoother system. And in New York, I'm like part of a union. It's a whole weird thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I that's the one thing that I do miss. I yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I wish that was easy. There's pros as we said earlier, pros and cons to every part of life. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. Lack of healthcare and all that. Big con. Yeah. It's very real. I also like I I think it looks, I don't know, like I ended up.

SPEAKER_00

It looks better than it might be sometimes. Totally. It was then I'm like, oh my gosh, how lucky am I? I can get a manicure in the middle of the day. Like I can do so many amazing things that I feel so grateful for. Because sometimes I for a second thought I would go back to corporate.

SPEAKER_01

Then I was like, No, me too. I can't. Me too, because I I love, I mean, something I've learned about myself. I'm like, I like stability. I like having consistent clients or consistent work or this podcast. Yeah, like that's really helpful for me. I don't, and this is my setup right now, which is like the tough, but like I don't love having like great months and then lean months. Like, it's like that's that's not fun. It's not fun. I love what I do. Yeah, but I'm like, yeah, there's major downsides to it. I also don't think I think I became a freelancer because I became a podcast host and then all the hosts on the network were freelance or contractors. That's interesting that that's how they did that. Yeah, but I mean it was there was more financial upside. It made sense from that perspective to do it, but like you sort of got thrown into it. Yeah, so that's kind of how I did it. But I had one big client. Basically, it was like I had a full-time job still, I was making consistent money. I knew that. Um and after that ended, I spent a long time being like, Do I want to go back? Like, yeah, I miss like the security of like having a network or a brand or a company. Like, I don't know. It's very real.

SPEAKER_00

I think a lot of people, it's easy to look at like Yeah, it's easy to look at someone I think who is a freelancer and think it's perfect. And like I feel very grateful for my life. But I think think long and hard before you make the switch. Like, make sure you have your ducks in a row because it is just like there's more back end complicated elements. Yes, yeah. But now I'm not going back anytime soon if people start listening, keep listening to the podcast. So keep listening, you know, subscribing, supporting us, subscribe to both of us, and then hopefully we won't have to go back to corporate.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I do, yeah. I feel like my parents are they're so funny. They're like, oh, like, would you want to uh do that? Like, keep in touch with this person.

SPEAKER_00

Like, maybe you could work on a podcast. Mom's like, so have you looked at any new jobs? Like, what's going on? And I'm like, no, mom, we gave up that goal. It's not happening anymore. Let's not talk about it. I'm like, I don't know. Like, I'm kind of doing a lot of things now. Like, what would happen to all of that if I like let's switch gears slightly and talk about what we like to buy with the money that we may or maybe go up in making. Um, do you have any? I mean, we should all go subscribe to their Substack and we'll find it there. But just quickly, while you we have you, what are you buying lately that you're really into?

SPEAKER_01

I've been buying a lot of home things. Okay. I mean, like, in addition to the shelves. I like just little home accessories, I feel like. Like I gotta.

SPEAKER_00

Do you live in a one-bedroom or a studio? Studio.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. But it's like, I say it's a big studio, and I'm sure you're like, no, there's no such thing.

SPEAKER_00

No, there is. I've been to definitely different size studios where it's like you have a nook, you have different areas.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I feel like it's perfect for me right now. Amazing. I I'm like kind of in a tough situation. Not a tough situation. That's a bad choice of weird ways. I'm in like the perfect situation where I'm like, I love my neighborhood, I love my building, I love like what I have here.

SPEAKER_00

Lean into that. Like, you don't want to move. Like, if you love those elephants, living is a nightmare.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'm like, I think I'm just staying here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Stay until you like feel like you're busting out of the scenes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I'm sort of like, yes, would I love a door? Yeah, I would love a door in my bedroom. I was like, what do you mean a door?

SPEAKER_00

Like a door between the different rooms.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, would I love a door in my bedroom?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But I kind of am like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

What would I give up on anything else? Like if I also like when you lose somewhere smaller, I'm like, oh, that means there's more money that I can pay for this, for traveling, for this clothes, for jewelry.

SPEAKER_01

Even the this is my specific building, but I'm just like, I don't like the windows as much in the one bedroom. Like I like my big windows.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, not giving that up. Yeah, like we can do.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like we both love good gold jewelry. We sort of connected through our favorite um Fuel Refiner. We love you, Madison. So um, any good jewelry that you've gotten recently or anything on your radar? Okay, tons of things always on my radar.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Let me think. I really want um you have actually the flexible collar.

SPEAKER_00

We love the flexible collar. That's from um Fear Refiner. We will link to that. It's it's stunning. And I do think you should buy that. But we I have the thinner one, and I was telling you the other day, I think go for the thicker one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I love mine. They didn't have the thicker version available when I bought mine, but if I were to do it again, I'd probably buy the thicker one. Love jewelry.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if I like jewelry, actually, a lot of things, which is maybe a little counterintuitive to being like a shopping person on the internet. I feel like I take my time.

SPEAKER_00

No, I think that's why I love your Substack is you will sort of walk us through your thought process.

SPEAKER_01

My like purchase decisions.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, my neurotic purchase decisions. That's the type of shopper that I am. Like I am thinking about shopping way too much, sort of all the time. And I'm like, ooh, okay, so do I still want that Kate bag? Like, I know I wanted it two days ago, but do I want it today? Like, I need to really think through it, see it a few times, do all the research. That's like what makes it fun for me.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. I'm not like, I mean, all impulse by a pair of pants and then like return, whatever, but like for a bigger purchase, like I really take my time in a kind of crazy way.

SPEAKER_00

I love that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, tell us like one recent big purchase. This is another one where I was dragging my feet for the longest time and then I did it and was like, what was that about? Like, this was like I should have. I should have done it sooner. That's the only problem. The roe park tote, which we've talked about.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, is that the one I have though? Or it's the um just like the one-handled topic. Like, because I have the park tote north-south, I think is what they call the one that we're talking about. Yes. And mine is the medium size. Yes, that's exactly what I have. Okay. You have a darker color than I have.

SPEAKER_01

I have black. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I need like a tan.

SPEAKER_01

I have a it's crazy if you went into my closet the number of black bags that size that I have.

SPEAKER_00

We live in New York City. We can have as many black things as we want. I know. It's so but that's that was my hang-up. Okay. I was like, do I really need another one? It's a great bag. It's a great bag. It's so nice because it holds more than your average small little purse. Yeah. But fits over your shoulder. It's also casual. I feel like my style's very casual.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Do you think that's LA that like influenced your casual style?

SPEAKER_01

Probably, yeah. Like it being like a like I wear flats because I knew it was coming uptown, but like normally I would be in this outfit in Birkenstocks. Really? Yeah. Like slides. Very LA. Like I love Birkenston vibe.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I used to actually hate Birkin socks, and I do, no offense, think they're really ugly. But I own them. Those angels or the clogs. Both the clogs and two. But I I mean I wore them this morning. I wear them as my dog walking shoe, like, no question, or just running errands in my neighborhood. I don't know if I personally wear them other places. No, no, I wish I got them.

SPEAKER_01

I know people love them. Like I wish I'd be able to do that. I wish I got the um the row slides. That was another one where I dragged my feet for too long and then they got rid of them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and they Steve Madden makes ones or those. But there's the color isn't right. Yeah, it's not quite right. I mean, sometimes the that's the problem with the row. You do not want to spend the money on it, but there's something that they're doing that's a little bit right.

SPEAKER_01

They get it right. That's my, yeah, I don't know. I drag my feet, but I'm also so particular about these little things that probably no one else cares about, but I'm like, that's not the right thing.

SPEAKER_00

No, yeah, you gotta hate it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna be upset about this every single time. It's not worth it for me.

SPEAKER_00

Um, okay, wait. Did you buy the row bag in person? I bought it on the real rail. Along on the real rail with my real rail credit. I bought mine on Fashion File. So we are both the same that way. Which I don't know if it's the best bag to buy resale because I don't think it's like you're not making that, you're not saving that much money.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But whatever. We like to think we are. Yeah. A little. Great. Um, let's talk about your noteworthy tips. We were chatting a little bit before we started recording. I want to hear about what you is sort of like a post-drinking anger prevention tip.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Um for the audience at home. We're we're doing this isn't the morning, this is the afternoon. I've had some time to recover.

SPEAKER_00

We had a couple of walking news last night. She wasn't, we she was like, I'm not sure I'm ready, but you have been great.

SPEAKER_01

So you're doing just no, I just was like, you know, the brain is like, we're warming up. Yeah. Um so this is not revolutionary advice in any way. But I guess last call kind of is. That's what I want to hear about. Yeah. Um, it is a it is an after-alcohol supplement. I don't know the exact name of the, I think it's a flower or something.

SPEAKER_00

We are obviously not doctors. I like to be very careful, like to when I suggest any type of supplement-esque thing. I'm like, I don't know, but you like this, use it. Yeah. You want to go buy it, try it. Yeah, it's actually called.

SPEAKER_01

It's called Last Call. It is, um, I think I don't know the name of it. I really shouldn't even try, but it's very, the supplement is very popular in Korea. They it's you guys like very widely there. And I think Last Call is the first brand to sort of try and bring it to the States. Awesome. Um, and I find that it works pretty decently. Is it a pill form? Like how are you taking it? Yeah, you're taking it. I basically I set out like advils for myself and Last Call, and I just have it like as soon as I come home.

SPEAKER_00

So that's similar to what I was saying. The one that I've tried is called Cheers. Yeah. So we'll have to like look at both of them, and I wonder if they're similar.

SPEAKER_01

There were a few different ones. Um, yeah, I would be curious, but I think like most of the stuff that I was using before was like electrolytes. Yes. Which, yeah, that'll help with the hydration, I guess. But like I think you can still feel hungover the next time. Yeah, it's not helping you metabolize alcohol. I think this is like supposed to help you. Amazing. I'm gonna go buy that tomorrow because I can't deal with alcohol the way I used to. Hold on. I need a moment. Can I be very honest about a brand? I don't know like how around they are these days. Z Biotics.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, that's the other one that I hear about. Do we like it or not?

SPEAKER_01

No. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, tell us. Oh my god. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_01

This is what we want. I know, but I'm like, this is what happens. I'm less of a filter. Here I am burning bridges with brand. Bring it. Tell us, tell us. Why don't we like it? Zbiotics. I took that. It was the night before one of my best friends' weddings. Yeah. Rehearsal dinner, great. I have an espresso martini nightcap, bad. I'm not a caffeine person, but I'm like, great. You know, I took the Z Biotics. I'll be fine. Worst next day of my life. I was like, you know, when you have full anxiety, you're like, oh my God, I'm I knew I was gonna be able to go to the wedding, but I was like, I feel horrible about myself. Like I did this, and like I'm not gonna be able to fully enjoy this. I'm such a bad friend. I had like every like thought, and I was like, it is my fault. I I did have the drinks, but it also is z biotics. Have you tried it again since? Or you just had one bad experience? And I did have to read ads for them for years for my last podcast. Before or after? After. And every single time I'd be like, stop, this is so.

SPEAKER_00

I have tried it, and I didn't, I can't say I had a great reaction or a bad reaction. It kind of does nothing. Well, yeah, maybe that's the takeaway. Yeah. All right, sorry. That's our noteworthy tip to not like don't waste your money. Um any other tips? Non-alcohol related? Non-alcohol.

SPEAKER_01

This is my brand on this show. No, we love it. Curious for what people will think. Um yes, two non-alcohol-related tips. Um, one is my dinner list. I keep a list on my phone.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I do like this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I keep a list on my phone of like recipes that I liked or dinners that I liked. Because I just find that I I kind of forget. And then you're kind of rotating through the same thing. So it's a little bit boring. But when I try a recipe and I'm like, that was easy, that was healthy, that I I can do that on a weeknight and I liked it. Yeah, I will put it on there. So then I have like years worth of things. How many do you think you have? Probably like 30.

SPEAKER_00

And you just sort of will scroll through and be like, okay, tonight I'll do this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like the vegetarian or like chicken, like what's the, I don't know, protein. It's like is it plant protein, chicken, fish, beef, chicken. But you just have the name saved or the full recipe saved. I have the name and then the link because usually they're like online somewhere. On Instagram or a food blog. I love that. Or like it's in a cookbook, so I know like where to look.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Um, but dinner list of what you can make. Yes. I don't really cook. So, you know, that might not help me too much, but that will help the audience. Maybe it just is like maybe it will inspire me. I make like three things.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you can I maybe like find other ways to apply it, but like it helps me like outsource things, and like I don't have to keep all of it in my brain. Like, the more we can outsource, the better. Yeah. And also just like I can pull it up in the grocery store and be like, okay, like what should I buy rather than buying random assortments of ingredients and then being like, how do I use this? Yes, okay. Love. Love a dinner list. And this is like, again, not revolutionary, but changed my life. I put my phone, finally, took me 31 years of life to learn this in the kitchen by 10 p.m. on a weeknight.

SPEAKER_00

You're the second person to say that as one of their tips, which I love.

SPEAKER_01

Changed my life. My sleep is so much better. Really? I was always, I always had difficulty falling asleep. Okay. And I think also like having my phone right next to me made it really easy to be like, I'm thinking, like, I'm thinking about something. I can Google it, or like I'm reminding myself to like it's too easy to not fall asleep, kind of. Too easy. Okay. And also just like, I've tried to break it a couple times. I've tried to be like, I can be trusted. No. Oh, so like the phone did come back in. The phone came back. Like, I'm like, why am I? It's like 1 a.m. I'm on TikTok. I'm watching AI fruit videos. Like, what is wrong with me?

SPEAKER_00

I can't be trusted.

SPEAKER_01

The phone is like draw. It's like, no, let's go.

SPEAKER_00

You and Diana, you're inspiring me. I'm gonna have to give really give this a try now that two of you said so.

SPEAKER_01

Do it. I just am like, I can't trust my brain. My tired brain is like not one to be trusted, making the best decisions for myself. So, like, we need to eliminate that. Give us like, what do you do for your alarm? Is it going from your kitchen? Like, do you hear it? Going from my kitchen studio, but I also have to get up to turn it off. That is a key. Which is changed, I mean, annoying, but it's changed my natural wake-up time. Okay. Like it's even on a wake up. Right, like you're really awake when you're getting walking across the room to turn it off. You're really awake. I'm also like, I don't get back in bed because I'm like, okay, well, I'm just up, like, I'll go to the bathroom, whatever.

SPEAKER_00

My favorite thing. I have a really bad habit lately of getting back into bed. I wake up, I don't really need to use my alarm because my dog likes to wake me up every morning, take him out for like first thing, and then go back in bed. Make a cup of coffee, and then with my coffee, I go back to incredible. And like just scroll on my phone. That sounds like heaven. It's so nice. But I do think it's it's it's one of those habits and things that you do where you're like, I know this isn't great for me, but I'm gonna keep doing it anyways. And at some point, maybe I'll stop.

SPEAKER_01

Well, like if it's not. I mean, like mine, I was like, I feel actively really bad that I'm like staying up late and like waking up late makes me feel behind on everything. Yeah, I was just feeling so like down on myself about it, where I was like, I need to change this.

SPEAKER_00

Do you have like a clock next to you, or if you make wake up in the middle of the night, do you know what time it is or you don't? I wake up in the middle of the night if I really need to know.

SPEAKER_01

I maybe another tip. I'm like hay Siriing everything. Really? It's like boomer behavior. My god, I never use Siri. I don't think I even have it active on my phone. Well, also, if I can't find my phone, it doesn't work if it's flipped upside down, but I'm like, hey Siri, where are you? And it'll I need it just for that.

SPEAKER_00

I am a like truly, I've revealed so many I wasn't on Spodcast. My brother recently was like, well, ask Siri. And I was like, no, I don't use Siri, which is kind of weird. I definitely shouldn't. I don't use it like that.

SPEAKER_01

I use it like, what's the weather? Okay, where are you? What time is it in the middle of the night? Also, when I'm getting ready at what time is it? Constantly. When I got ready this morning, I'm like, mm, that took me 40 minutes. I didn't calculate that quite right. Like it definitely takes me too much. And kitchen timers. If you're not cooking, whatever. But like always, I'm like, great, like seven minutes to like hard boil eggs, whatever.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

All right, we've got to get our phones out of the bedroom. Horrible tips. I'm so sorry. No, I these are real telling everyone real life tips. This is this is just what we want. We want like the not polished, real day-to-day. Bringing you, bringing you down with me on the series. Um okay. So we just want to end this episode with a little quick fire that I didn't prep you for. So we'll just see what you come up with. Um for you, I want to ask you some New York City specific questions. So I feel like you always have great recs, you know the new restaurants, all the things. So let's just dive through and it can be your favorite or the first thing that comes to your mind. Okay, because we know there's a lot out there. Morning coffee in New York City.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not a coffee person, really.

SPEAKER_00

So we're not having it.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm a decaf. Yeah. I like 12 matcha. Okay. But I prefer that as a cafe environment, frankly. This is not a quick fire. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00

No, you can answer as long as you want. I may like I love my own matcha.

SPEAKER_01

That's a great answer. I like cashew milk. I like my maple syrup. I like my van. I don't know. I just got it down.

SPEAKER_00

You might have to teach me because I really happily I think I've well, so if I don't like matcha, I don't think I like it. I don't know. I really only maybe tried it twice in like my whole life. You need like a sweeter, creamier matcha. Where should I go to like I leave into it?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I don't love the drinks at matcha full that much. I just feel like they're inconsistent. Yeah. And I like a sweeter, like it's never sweet enough. Okay. I don't even think I like a crazy amount of sweetness. Anyways, um, come over, I'll make you my own. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um date night spot in New York City.

SPEAKER_01

Ooh, that's a good question. I love to try a new restaurant, so I don't know if I have a consistent one.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe Via Corolla. No, Via Corota's like friends. Via Crota's too hard to get into, I think, to be a date night spot in a sense. Like you might have to be waiting a long time with that date. Did they go and put their names in? Like that's then they would win you some points. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. That's like goes a long way in my book.

SPEAKER_00

Getting a good reservation. You know it's gonna be a good date. Like, that's a good point in my book. Um, fancy dinner with your parents. Um, Ambassador's Clubhouse.

SPEAKER_01

I haven't been with my parents yet, but it's I don't know what that is. Oh my god. It's like the latest Indian restaurant that's like a really high-end good Indian restaurant in the city. There are now so many of them, which makes me so happy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um it's incredible. It's a really hard table. I think it was started by the Jim Kana people from London and brought it to New York. It's so good. Oh, and I know my parents would like love the food. And also just like the vibe is so fun. It's beautiful, it's like dark and cool and like New York and uh fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Okay, a spot for a facial. Where would you go for a facial?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Sophie Pavit.

SPEAKER_00

I really want to go to the fish. Sophie Pabbitt, a thousand percent. What about a massage?

SPEAKER_01

I like Remedy by Red in the West Village. Okay. Little gem. Um, but if you like, like on a birthday, like really treat myself, yeah, I love the hotel Chelsea spot. Everyone loves that. I've never been there. You've got to do that. It's a cool vibe there.

SPEAKER_00

And then a manicure. Where would you go to get a manicure? I don't like getting my nails done. Great. There we go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And you're not going anywhere. Yeah. And I sometimes I'll call Glam Squad. Yes, I do. Like do a pedicure at home and like also give me a blow at the same time. Um, but there's a spot close to me, Il Girosol, which is like they do an amazing chair massage. So I'll have them like like do a shiny buff. Yeah, just like clean it all up. Yeah, clean it up, and then like 10-minute chair massage, heaven.

SPEAKER_00

Amazing.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

All right. Well, we will end it there. Priyanka, thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for having me. Um, we've mentioned it a few times, but where can people follow you, stay up to date with everything you're doing? Should I buttonlike.com is like the best place to do it.

SPEAKER_01

It's my newsletter, but I am also on Instagram. Pre-Araby is my Instagram.

SPEAKER_00

TikTok.

SPEAKER_01

You're not really posting on TikTok lately. Post that much. You're scrolling. Bring it back. I know you're on there. I'm scrolling. I'm always scrolling. I'm always in the comments. Yeah. I try to hype my friends. We need that. Comment on all your comments. Comments are currency, people. Like, you gotta comment. You like someone. I read this somewhere. It's like you like something, like, you gotta like support it, or else people won't know, and then they won't like keep doing it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And it's like lonely out there. So if you like this episode, be sure to comment because we want to know and it helps us thrive. And um, thank you so much for listening, and we'll be back next week with another episode. That's a wrap. Do you have a noteworthy tip? Leave it in the comments below. Thanks for listening.